September 11, 2024 • 45 mins
In this episode, Tudor, Kyle, and Sara reflect on the significance of September 11th and share personal memories of 9/11, emphasizing its impact on their lives and the nation. The discussion shifts to the debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, critiquing the moderators' lack of accountability for Harris and the debate's focus on hot-button issues. They stress the importance of strong leadership, accountability, and clear communication in political discourse, drawing parallels to the current political climate. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are here to
chat about the debate. I have Kyle Olsen here with
me and Sarah Broadwater. First, I do want to recognize
this day. It is nine to eleven, the anniversary of
the horrific terror attacks on the United States of America.
And of course we all remember that. I was talking
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to Sarah this morning. She's a little bit younger than us,
so obviously she has a different perspective of it from
when she was in grade school. I want to get
into that, but first I want to talk about IFCJ.
They are also coming upon a terrible marker and we're
approaching the one year mark of the horrific events of
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October seventh in Israel. The International Fellowship of Christians and
Jews invites you to join them in flags of Fellowship.
It's an opportunity for Christians to remember the victims, honor
the heroes, pray for those who are still held hostage,
and highlight the unwavering support of Christians for Israel and
the Jewish people. On October six thousands of Christians will
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Join us in letting the world know that Christians stand
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there today and join me in supporting our friends over
in Israel. And you know, as I think about that
day that we're coming up upon a year anniversary, I
think I think about nine to eleven and what happened
that day. I think everybody, no matter who you are,
you know where you were that day. And for me,
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I had actually just moved out of New York City.
My sister was still in New York City and it
was you know, you have to remember, this is like
before cell phones. Really, it's before smartphones, before you could
ever you could just access information at your fingertips. And
I was commuting into Chicago. I lived in the suburbs.
I was commuting into the city and I remember I
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had just gotten off the train and I was on
the bus and there was no news. They didn't have
the radio on. We're just riding in silence, like every
other day. And I was in the third tallest building
in Chicago. I worked on the fifty third floor of
the third tallest building, and as I walked up to
the building, there was a chain of police around the
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building and it was so incomprehensible. I remember trying to
walk through them and they were like, you can't come
in this building. And I couldn't even comprehend it. And
my mind was like, no, I have to go to work.
And I remember saying that to the police officers, now
I have to work. I have to get to work,
and he said, you're not working today, ma'am. So I
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get back on the bus and just hearing the radio
that day, that's all I mean. It was like, you know,
it's all you can hear. And hearing the radio, they
say the first tower has just fallen, and honestly, I
couldn't even imagine what that meant. I couldn't visualize it.
None of us could. We're sitting on the bus, like,
what are they talking about? A plane hit the World
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Trade Center? Is this a cellphone tower? Could not even
comprehend that this was a tower. And get I get
back to the suburbs and I get off the train
and I called my mom. My mom said, we haven't
heard from your sister. We don't know what's going on.
My mom came over to my house and we sat
all day and watched the coverage and got a hold
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of my sister. She was still in her apartment, was uptown,
and she I will never forget her saying that it
was like watching zombies come from downtown, just walking. Nobody
was on public transit. Everybody was just walking for miles
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to get away from that. And I just remember that
sense of pride in our country after that day, So
many people just wanted to defend America. And I see
where we are today, and it's you know, we're not
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even twenty five years away from that, and how different
the feelings are, and I just want people to remember
that we are all Americans.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah. I was working in Lansing at a trade Association,
and I remember, you know, you're talking about no cell phones,
that we were trying to get on to CNN dot
com and it was we had got the the initial
story of the first plane and there's a picture, there's
a picture of it. But then the website crashed and
so then I remember we were all down in the
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basement of the association, you know, watching this on TV.
And of course it was not a you know, very
fancy TV and but it was just, you know, it
was confusion, and it was you know, people trying to
not doubt in the sense that it was happening, but
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how could that happen? And it must have been an
accident or you know, or it must have been fog
or something. And but then to see see it unfold,
not just the day, but the response, and you know,
you it's amazing to be you know, twenty three years
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later and think about, you know, how, for as much
as they are maligned today, how important I think George W.
Bush and Rudy Giuliani were in that moment with the
clarity and the leadership and the determination, you know, it
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just seems to me like they were in they were
there for that moment and responded well.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
In the heroism of that day and the stories that
came out for weeks afterward of you know, the flight
in Pennsylvania, the lives that were saved by those people
who chose to take that plane down rather than allow
those hijackers to do what their plan was, and who knew.
We don't even know who they saved. We don't even
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know how many people they saved. But true heroes and
the heroes of the men who ran into that building,
the men and women, the firefighters, the police. It's just
when you look back on that day, it is filled
with people who selflessly ran into a burning building and
said we'll do whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, and people didn't know what was going on, and
of course, you know, there wasn't Twitter, there was not
immediate you know, sort of dissemination of information. But the
amount of people that selflessly served and protected people in
New York, it's I mean, those those stories, you know,
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never get old and can never be I think overestimated.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So you talk about how I was much younger, so
I have a different experience. I mean I was in
fourth or fifth grade at the time, I think, and
I remember we got let out of school early, but
we didn't. I mean, I didn't know why, but I
distinctly remember my mom having to come and we had
like show ID. It was a whole process to get
out of school. And then I just remember coming home
and sitting and literally my mom put us in the
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living room and we watched on Loop all day, and
so all I remember is the image of the plane
just crashing into that building over and over and over again.
My little sister had just been born in August of
two thousand and one, and so it's kind of one
of those things where I feel like I put it
together in the years after, because I talked to my
mom about it and my dad too, and they're like,
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we sat there with a newborn baby right after this happened,
and we thought, what have we done? Why did we
bring another child into this world? Like what is going
on right now? But I think about it as like
you talk about George W. Bush, and I know people
have a lot of mixed opinions on him, but I
mean what I was nine years old at the time,
and I remember George W. Bush going out in the
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rubble and like going and talking to those guys, and
so I always grew up thinking like this is how
it's supposed to be. Like I grew up with the
grandpa that was a World War two bet and then
I saw that, and I always just kind of assumed, like,
this is what American pride is supposed to look like.
So when I see things now, it's just like it's
very hard for me to comprehend that that's not what
it's like anymore, because that's what I grew up with,
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is like that. And that's when I was going into
middle school all that time where you start to really
learn about that stuff, and I just think I saw
it as no different. I was like, this is how
America acts.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But the beauty of that baby in your mom's arms
is that today she lives in New York City. Yes,
And that just means that we won, We fought back,
We preserved the things that are beautiful in this country.
And New York City is one of those places that
is unlike any place else on earth, and you can
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achieve your American dream there and we are not going
to ever back down to terrorists. And I think, you know,
that really brings us to last night, because that was
something that I don't think that Kamala Harris was hit
hard enough on We are in a September tenth situation
in this country right now because of the Harris Biden
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administration that have left borders open, and you're going to
hear a lot of people people today saying, oh, yeah,
he wasn't strong enough on the border, and he could
have pushed her here and he could have pushed her there.
Well wait a minute, wait a minute, let us be
honest about what happened last night. Because they started out
with the economy Blue passed Kamala Harris on it, just blue,
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I mean, never said anything about that, then spend almost
fifteen minutes on abortion, and they hammered him on immigration
and not her. They went after him and said, you
stopped this bill from going through. Well, for first of all,
who is going to admit that a former president can
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go in and whip votes better than them, but Kamala Harris,
who's apparently very weak. And secondly, you have bipartisan opposition
to that bill, a bill that would enshrine in law
that you can have people crossing the border at a
time when we are in the most danger we've ever seen.
And that's not coming from me, that's coming from Christopher Ray,
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who says, this is we are on the brink of
a is there's red flags everywhere, we are on the
brink of another terrorist attack. And here we are, on
September eleventh, talking about a debate where no one addressed that.
No one addressed the fact that terrorists have been let
into this country, and we know it, we know they've
been let into this country. They let her off on that.
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They let her off on the fact that she wants
to sign a bill that would enshrine illegal immigration on
a daily basis into law, instead of fighting back against it.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was a debate specifically designed to make her look
just moderately good and to rile him up. I mean
that's because you said they started on the economy, and
I actually think the start of the debate he got
off to a strong start. She fumbled, She was very
nervous at the beginning, and then they saw that and
they pivoted to abortion. Then you know, they go through
fifteen minutes of abortion, and I can't remember what the
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next topic was, but it might have been immigration or
the border, and he kind of finds his footing again
for a minute. Then they go to January sixth, and.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So it was like they specifically set it up again
on abortion full of lies. Yes, like they're you know,
they're like, well, you are the reason that this is happening.
And she goes through all of these you know, women
across the country are dying, they can't get healthcare, and
nobody says, well, that's not the statistic. The minute he
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says they want abortion up to the moment of birth,
they don't go to her and say, is there a
yes or no there? Do you want abortion up to
the moment of birth? They gave him two yes or nos,
which are just bs things to do during a debate.
Dessant has handled it the best when he was debating
the other Republican candidates because he said, we're not doing that.
We're not doing that. And I wish Trump had said
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that too, because you don't give him yes or nos
and not her yet. But I just don't think you
give a yes or no. I think you let somebody
explain their position. But also on abortion, I want to
be clear, and they said nobody is killing babies after birth.
Kamala Harris voted against the Born Alive Protection Act. That
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means if you have a botched abortion, which you do,
and don't tell me you don't, because you do. If
you have a botched abortion and that baby is born alive,
they are not protected. They're murdered. They are murdered. And
that has happened in Tim Wall's Minnesota multiple times. And
nobody said, well, actually, actually, miss Harris, you do allow this.
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You do allow murder. And she said and she turned
to him and she said, there is no woman that
has an abortion in the third trimester. Also a lie.
I mean, it may not be the highest number, just
like it's not the highest number on the other side
of rape and incest, but if you're gonna fact check one,
you gotta fact check the other. She had no fact
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checks last night.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And well, and so I guess what did you really expect?
Because ABC, you know Trump leading up to the debate,
he was attacking ABC rightly, so probably, but they agreed
to that debate. They meeting the Trump campaign, they agreed
to the terms, and I assume they agreed to the moderators.
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I don't know, but yeah, it was. It was three
on one. And I don't want to make excuses for
what transpired last night, but it was three on one.
And the way that they would pose questions to him,
which of course were you know, intended to put him
on defense or you know, force him to answer for something,
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and then they would go to her and say, what
is your response to that? So then she just piled.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
On and it didn't happen the other way.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, correct, And so there were a couple times where
they challenged him on what he was saying. But there
were two very blatant lies. There were many, but there
were two very blatant lies that she told. One was
her depiction of Charlottesville and what Trump said about, you know,
people people on both sides. She repeated that lie that
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of course came from Joe Biden because he still talks
about that. That's been totally debunked. And then the other
one was his comment about a blood bath, and of
course he was referring to what would happen in the
auto industry if if Biden and Harris were re elected,
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there would be an economic blood bath, which is a
very common term, but the way they have they have
spun it that they meaning Biden and Harris and the media,
which of course, you know, she.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Used blood bath as a term prior to.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yes, it's a it's a normal term. They were spinning
that as if it's going to be some sort of
you know, civil war blood bath, and she again repeated
that lie, and they did not challenge her on that
at all. And those have been thoroughly debunked in the media.
And so it was. It was three on one, and
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he was, in my opinion, he was defensive and he
was responding to her. He was not, in my opinion,
addressing what I think American people want to hear. And
it's not programs and giveaways. It's that we're going to
have secure borders, and here's how we're going to do it,
and we're going to have you know, decreased inflation, and
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here's how we're going to do it, and all of
those very critical issues.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You brought up.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The bloodbath comment there were no discussions on EV mandates,
and you say you had you were for mandates, now
you've backtracked on mandates. How can you not specifically talk
about that when it affects so many people in this country.
I mean, effect an EV mandate affects everybody, but the
amount of union workers who are waiting to hear what
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is actually going to happen with our industry? Is the
government going to dictate free markets and take away free markets?
Now essentially she you have said that you would take
away free markets in the past, Suddenly you are now
changing your position on that. No, there was no discussion
on that. That was not talked about at all. I
thought that was disgusting that she was not fact checked
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on any of that.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
He was fact checked over five times and she was zero.
Of course, I mean that was five times. That's what
my account was when there was still twenty minutes left
in the debate, so it's probably more than that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It was shocking to me that they didn't fact check
her on anything. I mean, when she talked about that
he handed us a worldwide pandemic, they didn't even say anything.
She came out and she said he doesn't believe in
climate change, and Joe Biden and I believe that we've
seen all these weather events. We can stop these weather events.
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I'm like, are you Jesus now, like you're kind of
calm the storm, Kama.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But see that's where I think you had said, you
know that he was better in the first part, and
she what clearly was nervous, she needed to drink of water.
The amount of times you could hear the you know,
audible noises from her mouth were disgusting. I also thought
that she was a silver lining for Trump. Was how
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off putting and smug her mannerisms and her demeanor was.
I thought it was, you know, when she would put
her hand on her chin and she would have this
sort of like, you know, smirk on her face.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
She rolled her eyes, which I think is a like
debate one oh one, don't roll your eyes, don't look annoy,
don't open your mouth and gasp. You know. All of
these bizarre behaviors were like the behavior that you you
never want to see from a woman. And I know
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people are going to say, oh, don't say that, but
it's true. As a woman, you have to we all
know this. You have to behave differently in a situation
like that because of exactly what you said. And I
think a lot of men probably watched that and thought,
here she is wagging her finger at him. She's the
naggy wife, you know. And she was the one who
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kept trying to interrupt. She was the one who kept
trying to yell across the stage at him, and I
just thought that that was a weird and kind of
pathetic look. But I think it's also the look of
someone who doesn't want to talk about their record and
doesn't want to talk about their plan. I mean, Sarah,
this morning, you said, well, she did talk about her
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fifty thousand dollars for small businesses in her.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Child tax credit.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's all she said. That's the only thing she and
there was no explanation of that. There's no there was
no discussion of what that actually meant, and us are
on it because they didn't want her to have to
talk about her policies. I mean another thing, I'll just
go back to the border for a second, because I
do feel like on this day we have to address
the danger that we are in. This is a woman
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who compared Ice to the KKK. This is a woman
who said multiple times she wants to abolish ice. The
entire party, the entire Democrat Party. Gretchen Whitmer has come
out and said she thinks we should abolish ice. This
has been a theme throughout the Democrat Party. We are
sitting here on September eleventh, going are we safe? And
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no one said to her last night we're on the
eve of September. We're on the eve of September eleventh.
You have multiple times called to abolish ice. Do you
still feel that way?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
All she could do when Trump brought that stuff up
was scoff at it and do one of her facial expressions.
And I just don't think that's enough. So to your point,
why aren't the moderators stepping in any of that. I
just she got her little moment. I guess that she's
going to meme and put on TikTok of her. Just
talking about it reminded me actually of your debate with
Gretchen Whitmer, when she just goes, well, none of what
she just said is true, but then offers no explanation
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as to why it's not true. It was the same
thing all over again with Kamala, where she just got off.
She could roll her eyes and she could do those things,
and the moderators took the eye roll as her answer
and like that was her explanation.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I thought the whole thing was what transpired. I thought
was completely predictable and avoidable. And she, you know, her
history is she was a prosecutor and an attorney general,
so that was she was going to attempt to prosecute
the case against Donald Trump, and she was going to
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try to have those sorts of moments, you know, in
front of the jury where it's you know, persuadable and
you know effective. But I don't I don't know that
it was. I wish that he would have been more prepared.
He's seen very reactive and defensive. And again going back
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to what we were just talking about, a lot of
the questions were designed to put him on defense and
then it just sort of they just sort of tossed
it to her and she got to pylon. But you
talked about ev mandates. Those are the sorts of things.
I mean, you've done debates. I have not. You've done debates.
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You know that you have your basic things that you
definitely want to say, your points you definitely want to make.
And if it's getting late into the night and you
have not been able to make those, you find a
way to work him in. You go on offense. And
he didn't do.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That, and she was very much like I'm a new day.
And at the end I noticed she said I'm not
Donald Trump and I'm not Joe Biden. She made that separation.
She wanted to cut herself off from him, and they
allowed her to do it. They never went back to
her and said, actually you are it is Biden Harris,
and they didn't push back on her saying that they
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let her get away with that. She also was very
much in this I'm joy, I'm the next, I'm the
new coming of you know, obviously she can stop storms,
so she's a.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, if you're stopping tornadoes, it's a new level.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I mean, I did think one of her moments You
talked about her being a prosecutor and wanting those moments,
and I think that was one of them, when Donald
Trump was railing on Joe Biden and she looked at
him and said, hey, you're not running against Joe Biden anymore.
And I thought that was kind of one of those.
She again was the reach had lines.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I mean, he brought up the I was going to
buy you a Maga hat, which she started the ridiculous
laughing about, and I thought she handled that in a
very strange way because she knows it's true. And I
thought that was actually her reaction to that was very
telling because she just laughed, Yeah, I've changed my positions
and I can get away with it. I mean the
fact that she comes out and she's suddenly like, I'm
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a gun owner, I'll never take your guns away. Wait
a minute, how on earth does ABC not say at
that moment you have said multiple times that you want
to have a mandatory gun buyback, which we know is
not That sounds like such a nice thing. That's you're
required to get rid of your gun. She has been
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strong on that, And where are the David Hoggs of
the world going, Well, wait a minute, who's this woman
and the Star support.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Just because you own a gun yourself does not mean
that you're not for everyone else having theirs taken away.
I mean always the people with protection themselves. It has
no bearing on whether or not her policy.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And why didn't the moderators when she said she's not
Joe Biden, Why didn't the moderators say, okay, give us
one of your positions or one of your policy ideas
that is different from his, or give us one policy
see that he has that you disagree with, because there
isn't one. And I saw maybe I shouldn't say this
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because I don't know if it's true, but I saw
that her website is basically copied and pasted from his
so what is different? But no, of course the moderators
weren't going to do that, and Trump didn't do that,
So she just gets away with.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It, right, absolutely well. She also she I think they
talked about they went through his history. They did not
go through her history at all. They never questioned her
on anything. They were, oh, my goodness, Rov Wade January sixth,
and you're a criminal. I mean, this was him on
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offense the entire night. They knew that if they could
get him in that position. And you know, you're on
stage in front of the entire world's not only the country,
You're on stage in front of the entire world. You're
supposed to be pointing out what you're going to do
differently than your opponent. You're not on trial. He was
on trial last night. This was a trial.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
She was the.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Prosecutor, and those people were junior prosecutors. They were just
sitting there next to her there as a support system.
They never said to her. Wait a minute, let us
go back to the fact that in twenty twenty you
supported these rioters. You say you support small businesses. What
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about the small businesses in Minnesota? What about all the
small businesses in Minneapolis, the billions of dollars worth of
damage that happened in that city. You have a running
mate whose wife said she opened the windows to watch
or to smell the city burning. You have a running
mate who paused at the most critical point for Minneapolis,
when Minneapolis needed him the most. He paused, are you
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going to pause in the future when we're under attack?
Because you didn't just pause, You came out and said,
stay in the streets. Stay in the streets. She made
that statement, and they said that he said that Donald
Trump said the last nime. Oh that's not true. No, No,
that is true. And it was on her website up
until like a week ago, and I don't know, maybe
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it's still there. About that fund that you can send
money to to make sure that you bail out the
bad guys. And she was saying, you go to jail,
we'll bail you out. Please donate to this fund for
the rioters who have destroyed people's small businesses, to bail
them out of jail and let them go back out
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the next night and do it again, because we want
you out so you can stay in the streets. That's
what she said. No, accountability for her words, for her destruction,
for mass destruction in this country, destruction like we have
never seen. After those riots. I think there was something
like sixty three riots or something across the country. And
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she was in a position of power as a senator.
Saint stay in the streets as someone who's who is
going to or she was running for president at the time.
She's out there telling people keep rioting. This is bolgoney?
Is she was? He mentioned you're for these sex changes,
these sex change operations for criminals. To me, it's the
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most dangerous thing. You've got somebody who's committed a crime,
and it's like the movie Face Off. You're gonna change
their face and put them back into society. Their victims
won't know who they are, Like, are you kidding me?
We're gonna pay for that, because, let's be honest, she
wants taxpayers to pay to change the face of a
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convicted criminal who has been convicted of horrendous crimes, so
we don't know who they are anymore. No way, no way.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It was a night of just like the greatest hits
for the Democrats. They got to go through exactly what
they wanted. If you watched how the media covered it,
whether it was on Twitter or afterwards. Then when they're
all live tweeting, because you know, every reporter has to
do their own little live tweet, it's very specific, I
mean clear what they specifically picked out. You know, the
abortion band question was like one of the first tweets
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I saw from the majority of the Michigan based reporters.
For instance, they know like where the gravy chain is
for the Democrats, and that's what they just want to
keep hammering. So I'm curious to see. Obviously we're up
early today before the coverage comes out for most of
this or it's coming out right now. I'm curious where
they focus the issues because my sense is that it's
going to be all about Project twenty twenty five again.
Oh another, I mean, it's going to be all of
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the things that the Democrats try to trap them on.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
That was the Project twenty twenty five. Never did they
say he has said multiple times that's not his deal,
He's not into this, this is not what he's going
to do. She threw that out multiple times. She got
to go on her whole abortion rant, and I think
that was definitely planned by ABC. Is like you've got
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a woman, she's going to be able to appeal to
all these young women. I mean, you sent us a
commercial yesterday that was horrifying to me, all these young,
young teenage girls who and I have a fifteen year old,
so to me, this is very specific. I've got a
thirteen year old and a fifteen year old, and these
girls are saying, we live in a country where we
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have a one and six chance of being raped, and
there's a candidate out there that would force us to
have that baby. And I'm like, are we not going
to freak out about the fact that that many women
are in danger in this country, that we have that
big of a crime problem, and that you would use children?
You use children in a campaign. They literally said, we
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can't vote, we're not old enough to vote, but politicians.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Will hurt us.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Oh they're hurting you already, honey.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It was very sick. Like I said, I got this
targeted digital ad and I immediately had to look it
up because I'm like, they're not using young girls to
advocate for abortion because they're afraid they're going to get raped.
It just I could not believe. It was sick that
that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
We'll have the Midwesterner, the Midwesterner dead news. We'll have
a story about that today, so you can go there
and find a story about that. But yes, you would
think most people would take a step back and say,
wait a minute, this is how dangerous Michigan is, This
is how dangerous America is. That our girls are under
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this much threat. Maybe we should do something about that
instead of, you know, obsessing over abortion. But again, what
happened last night was predictable. You were talking about it
was the greatest hits. It was totally predictable. I mean,
it was predictable. They were going to bring up abortion
because you know, the Democrats are totally obsessed with that,
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and they were going to bring up January sixth, and
they were in all of these you know other in
his you know his you know convictions and all of that.
That was totally predictable. And so prepare for that and
not just night. And I'm not buying the argument that
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you know, what you're doing every day is preparation for
a debate.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You all were in debate prep with me, and the
reason that you do debate. Prep is so that you
have all of that information right at the tip of
your tongue when you get attacked on this or that
you know you're prepared. You know the questions they're going
to ask, and not because they give them to you
ahead of time. You go through every possible scenario. And
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whether or not she had an inkling of the questions,
I mean, it was very strange the way her answers
were prepared for the exact questions that they had. I
will say that however, they prepared her, she is a prosecutor.
He was going up against a prosecutor. They needed to
think about the fact that this was going to be
a prosecution and she was going to be very well prepared.
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I do think that there were times when you could
see that he was frustrated. You could see that he
didn't like the things that they were saying about him.
And I think that had you sat through those days
that we did of this question, and I mean very candidly,
there were Okay, they're going to ask you this question. No,
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that's you didn't do a good job of answering that.
And it's because if you don't prepare for it, it
might not be right there. But if you know the answers,
you're going to be able to crush the competition.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And stylistically, we have to remember you have one to
two minutes, depending on what the rules of each debate are.
He's used to being, you know, going to a rally
and having two hours to make his case to the
American people, and he gets it all out there. But
it's different when you're on a debate stage and you
only have one minute or two minutes. I mean, that's
the importance of the practice aspect of this, because it
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has to become second nature and you have to know
to your point, like what are those three things that
I have to say and get in and that takes practice.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
And also his style at a rally in addition to
it being very long, people know what he's talking about.
So when he talks about student loans, or he talks
about you know, rapists and murders coming across the border
and whatever, the people are following that, they know what
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he's talking about. A lot of the people that tuned
in last night, you know, are not necessarily following a
lot of these issues. And so I don't think you
can just give one sentence to something or make sort
of a generalized statement about something. You have to provide
detail in history and background and detail about her record,
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and there was not a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'm curious how they feel about the mic muting though,
also because I that wasn't always that was not muted
at all, and I just think that was the biggest
issue that the campaigns had when trying to get this
debate settled.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think ultimately it'll be interesting to see what this does,
because I think this was the opportunity for Kamala Harris
to come out and say I have a plan that
is different than anything we've seen. She had to really
instead of just saying I'm not Joe Biden, she had
to really differentiate herself from Joe Biden. She didn't. She
didn't give the American people anything. She was the naggy wife,
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she was the yelling mother. She did not come across
as though she could discuss all of these situation, all
of these different issues in depth. She didn't have the
in depth discussion or the ability to do that. I
don't think a lot of people walked away from this
debate saying yeah, I can see her sitting down with
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President g Yes, I can see her sitting down with
President Putin and really hammering him hard. You're not going
to sit across from the at the table from Putin,
rolling your eyes and have him take He'll just get
up and walk out. She was not presidential. She was
not prepared for these in depth discussions with foreign leaders.
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She is a prosecutor. This is good. She's good for
an hour and a half to come out and prosecute someone.
The job is not to prosecute. That's I think that
is the mistake that a lot of voters make. They go, oh,
this is a job about going out there and hammering
someone and telling them how bad they are. No, it's
a job of humility. It's a job of being able
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to sit down across the table. It's a job of service.
You are serving the American people and you're protecting them
from the most dangerous people in the world. And she
didn't prove that she can do that.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
They said that she was doing debate prep with Hillary Clinton.
And I will never you know, I'm not a Hillary
Clinton fan, will not give her credit for anything. But
in this case, this is like stylistically, Kamala just doesn't
have the presence and the demeanor, and so you talk
about her rolling her eyes, even Hillary Clinton knows not
to do that for the most part. And Hillary Clinton
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still had a presence, an adult presence on the stage
more so than Kamala did. And that's why she didn't
learn anything from Hillary's run. I don't think I think
she's leaning into the things that people had issues with
with Hillary more so at the end of the day,
I don't think it's going to help her. But it's
just interesting that that's who she took her marching orders
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from on how to go about debating him.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Well, and rewind back to what, let's say June, when
it was not on the table that Joe Biden was
going to be kicked out. To your point about Hillary,
she was a Secretary of State, she was a diplomat,
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She was disciplined, she knew she she had to be
on message. She had a different presence Kamala Harris, you
go back to June. She was a joke of a
vice president and she still is, but that was how
she was portrayed. She was given crap jobs where she
was not going to be successful. The boarder is a
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good example, and she was a joke and people laughed
at her and was not taken seriously. And remember it
was they're never going to replace Biden because what they're
going to replace him with is worse. That was the attitude.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And you make a great point because that wasn't a
yes or no question. Did you know Joe Biden was
cognitively impaired? Did you knowingly lie to the American people?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Do we have a president of the United States right now?
Yes or no? Are you okay with someone who spends
endless time on the beach? Yes or no? Will you
defend this president's record? Will you defend the Biden Harris record?
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
And we didn't even get to the Afghanistan withdrawal, which
I have to bring up because they said to her.
You know, you said you were the last person in
the room. Are you okay with it?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, all these presidents said they were going to get
out of Afghanistan. We did it. Now the American people
don't have to pay. That wasn't the question. The question
is you botched that withdrawal? You botched it. Thirteen service
members died, and the nerve of this woman to say,
now you're not paying for this war I couldn't believe it.
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It wasn't a question of whether or not you get out.
We knew we were getting out. Wasn't a question of
whether or not you get out of Afghanistan. It was
the fact that the images that are seared in our
minds of people falling from planes they were so desperate
to be saved. Was the fact that they left all
of our equipment, was the fact that they were totally unprepared,
And was the fact that we had service members needlessly die,
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we had people maimed for no reason. And she never
had to address that.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
She essentially said, I'm major Mond, tax payment less and
all it costs you was thirteen lives. And that's how
she I mean, that is genuinely how she talked about it,
which is just disgusting. And she actually used I think
the word pay like no one had to pay for
it or something like that, and you don't have to
pay for it, and I mean you rightly pointed out
on Twitter. Yeah, there's families that are paying for this
every single day who don't have their family members anymore.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
And there are still people who are paying for it
every single day because they were injured.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You talk about the impact. What impact do you think
the debate will have? I think the mechanics of an
election have fundamentally changed because when debates started, there wasn't
the Internet. There wasn't you know, campaign websites, which they
don't have a lot of information on them anyway. There
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was not the daily cover it, the minute by minute
coverage of everything that's going on in an election of
speeches and all of that. There was basically the evening news.
And and so I think debates played a much larger
role in an election in terms of forming opinions than
they do now. And then I think, in addition to that,
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we have two candidates, one that's in office who is
essentially the president. She's pretending that she's not, but she
essentially is. And a former president who people can judge
their records and their life experiences in terms of jobs
and making money in the economy and security and all
of that. They can judge each other. And so I
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would I would predict that after what happened last night,
not a whole lot is going to change. You know,
the media is going to you know, obsess over it,
and Democrats will you know, find their wins and all
of that. But I don't anticipate a whole lot is
going to.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Change if I would love to see the Nielsen data
afterwards to see how many people just turned it off
after the first fifteen to twenty minutes, because I think
you're right. I just think people, for the most part,
they're not moved by a debate. They watch it just
to quickly check in see if anyone falls on their face.
Apple research firms use it for clips for commercials, and
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it doesn't really go anywhere beyond that. I know we
spent forty minutes talking about the issues and why it matters,
but I think at the end of the day, most
people have already formed their opinion on these candidates. It's
really just don't harm yourself at this point.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Well, I'll just close with saying, if you are talking
to people today and you're out there and people are saying, well,
what did you think? I think what you should take
away from that debate is that you have a president
and prosecutor, and those are two different things. You've got
one man who wants to lead, one man who wants
to negotiate, one man who wants to look at all
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of the issues. And when you talk about are you
going to do you want Ukraine to win? Do you
want this? Do you want that? Their strategy that you
don't give away, and he understands the importance of keeping
your cards close to your best, to your chest.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
You've got to be.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Prepared to make those decisions without the entire enemy structure
knowing what you're doing. This is a woman who was
out there prosecuting, prosecuting him, prosecuting Americans. She is going
to prosecute you. You do not want a police state,
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but that's what she is. She wants to go after you.
She wants to go after her political opponents. We've seen
it across the country with these Democrats. And if you
have the head of the snake is a prosecutor, you're
not going to be having a leader. You're not going
to be having a servant. You're going to be having
somebody who goes after the people she doesn't like. And
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nobody needs that in this country. We've seen it. He
made it very clear that he has had he has
had weaponization. He's undergone the weapon is a of government.
He's had the government go turn on him and go
after him. And we've all seen it, and I think
most people saw that last night, and they were like,
is that really.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Your best bet?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
You got this prosecutor up here and you're talking about
how she went after him. That will be the future
under Kamal Harris. So we just have to be very careful.
And I have to say thank you to this group
for getting up today. Thank you especially to Kyle, who
was very crabby about me asking him to come in
the thriller.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
But I'm the happiest one here.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Thank you a lot to say that.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
It is very early, but you got it here first.
This is the raw discussion about the debate right after
the debate. I feels like we just literally watched the debate.
So thank you for listening. We will be back tomorrow
or actually, yeah, we will be back tomorrow. Oh gosh, yeah,
we're gonna have to talk more today. So make sure
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you check out more episodes at Tutordison dot com, the
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Have a blessing,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are here to
chat about the debate. I have Kyle Olsen here with
me and Sarah Broadwater. First, I do want to recognize
this day. It is nine to eleven, the anniversary of
the horrific terror attacks on the United States of America.
And of course we all remember that. I was talking
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to Sarah this morning. She's a little bit younger than us,
so obviously she has a different perspective of it from
when she was in grade school. I want to get
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there today and join me in supporting our friends over
in Israel. And you know, as I think about that
day that we're coming up upon a year anniversary, I
think I think about nine to eleven and what happened
that day. I think everybody, no matter who you are,
you know where you were that day. And for me,
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I had actually just moved out of New York City.
My sister was still in New York City and it
was you know, you have to remember, this is like
before cell phones. Really, it's before smartphones, before you could
ever you could just access information at your fingertips. And
I was commuting into Chicago. I lived in the suburbs.
I was commuting into the city and I remember I
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had just gotten off the train and I was on
the bus and there was no news. They didn't have
the radio on. We're just riding in silence, like every
other day. And I was in the third tallest building
in Chicago. I worked on the fifty third floor of
the third tallest building, and as I walked up to
the building, there was a chain of police around the
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building and it was so incomprehensible. I remember trying to
walk through them and they were like, you can't come
in this building. And I couldn't even comprehend it. And
my mind was like, no, I have to go to work.
And I remember saying that to the police officers, now
I have to work. I have to get to work,
and he said, you're not working today, ma'am. So I
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get back on the bus and just hearing the radio
that day, that's all I mean. It was like, you know,
it's all you can hear. And hearing the radio, they
say the first tower has just fallen, and honestly, I
couldn't even imagine what that meant. I couldn't visualize it.
None of us could. We're sitting on the bus, like,
what are they talking about? A plane hit the World
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Trade Center? Is this a cellphone tower? Could not even
comprehend that this was a tower. And get I get
back to the suburbs and I get off the train
and I called my mom. My mom said, we haven't
heard from your sister. We don't know what's going on.
My mom came over to my house and we sat
all day and watched the coverage and got a hold
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of my sister. She was still in her apartment, was uptown,
and she I will never forget her saying that it
was like watching zombies come from downtown, just walking. Nobody
was on public transit. Everybody was just walking for miles
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to get away from that. And I just remember that
sense of pride in our country after that day, So
many people just wanted to defend America. And I see
where we are today, and it's you know, we're not
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even twenty five years away from that, and how different
the feelings are, and I just want people to remember
that we are all Americans.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah. I was working in Lansing at a trade Association,
and I remember, you know, you're talking about no cell phones,
that we were trying to get on to CNN dot
com and it was we had got the the initial
story of the first plane and there's a picture, there's
a picture of it. But then the website crashed and
so then I remember we were all down in the
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basement of the association, you know, watching this on TV.
And of course it was not a you know, very
fancy TV and but it was just, you know, it
was confusion, and it was you know, people trying to
not doubt in the sense that it was happening, but
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how could that happen? And it must have been an
accident or you know, or it must have been fog
or something. And but then to see see it unfold,
not just the day, but the response, and you know,
you it's amazing to be you know, twenty three years
(05:51):
later and think about, you know, how, for as much
as they are maligned today, how important I think George W.
Bush and Rudy Giuliani were in that moment with the
clarity and the leadership and the determination, you know, it
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just seems to me like they were in they were
there for that moment and responded well.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
In the heroism of that day and the stories that
came out for weeks afterward of you know, the flight
in Pennsylvania, the lives that were saved by those people
who chose to take that plane down rather than allow
those hijackers to do what their plan was, and who knew.
We don't even know who they saved. We don't even
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know how many people they saved. But true heroes and
the heroes of the men who ran into that building,
the men and women, the firefighters, the police. It's just
when you look back on that day, it is filled
with people who selflessly ran into a burning building and
said we'll do whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, and people didn't know what was going on, and
of course, you know, there wasn't Twitter, there was not
immediate you know, sort of dissemination of information. But the
amount of people that selflessly served and protected people in
New York, it's I mean, those those stories, you know,
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never get old and can never be I think overestimated.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So you talk about how I was much younger, so
I have a different experience. I mean I was in
fourth or fifth grade at the time, I think, and
I remember we got let out of school early, but
we didn't. I mean, I didn't know why, but I
distinctly remember my mom having to come and we had
like show ID. It was a whole process to get
out of school. And then I just remember coming home
and sitting and literally my mom put us in the
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living room and we watched on Loop all day, and
so all I remember is the image of the plane
just crashing into that building over and over and over again.
My little sister had just been born in August of
two thousand and one, and so it's kind of one
of those things where I feel like I put it
together in the years after, because I talked to my
mom about it and my dad too, and they're like,
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we sat there with a newborn baby right after this happened,
and we thought, what have we done? Why did we
bring another child into this world? Like what is going
on right now? But I think about it as like
you talk about George W. Bush, and I know people
have a lot of mixed opinions on him, but I
mean what I was nine years old at the time,
and I remember George W. Bush going out in the
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rubble and like going and talking to those guys, and
so I always grew up thinking like this is how
it's supposed to be. Like I grew up with the
grandpa that was a World War two bet and then
I saw that, and I always just kind of assumed, like,
this is what American pride is supposed to look like.
So when I see things now, it's just like it's
very hard for me to comprehend that that's not what
it's like anymore, because that's what I grew up with,
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is like that. And that's when I was going into
middle school all that time where you start to really
learn about that stuff, and I just think I saw
it as no different. I was like, this is how
America acts.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But the beauty of that baby in your mom's arms
is that today she lives in New York City. Yes,
And that just means that we won, We fought back,
We preserved the things that are beautiful in this country.
And New York City is one of those places that
is unlike any place else on earth, and you can
(09:32):
achieve your American dream there and we are not going
to ever back down to terrorists. And I think, you know,
that really brings us to last night, because that was
something that I don't think that Kamala Harris was hit
hard enough on We are in a September tenth situation
in this country right now because of the Harris Biden
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administration that have left borders open, and you're going to
hear a lot of people people today saying, oh, yeah,
he wasn't strong enough on the border, and he could
have pushed her here and he could have pushed her there.
Well wait a minute, wait a minute, let us be
honest about what happened last night. Because they started out
with the economy Blue passed Kamala Harris on it, just blue,
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I mean, never said anything about that, then spend almost
fifteen minutes on abortion, and they hammered him on immigration
and not her. They went after him and said, you
stopped this bill from going through. Well, for first of all,
who is going to admit that a former president can
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go in and whip votes better than them, but Kamala Harris,
who's apparently very weak. And secondly, you have bipartisan opposition
to that bill, a bill that would enshrine in law
that you can have people crossing the border at a
time when we are in the most danger we've ever seen.
And that's not coming from me, that's coming from Christopher Ray,
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who says, this is we are on the brink of
a is there's red flags everywhere, we are on the
brink of another terrorist attack. And here we are, on
September eleventh, talking about a debate where no one addressed that.
No one addressed the fact that terrorists have been let
into this country, and we know it, we know they've
been let into this country. They let her off on that.
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They let her off on the fact that she wants
to sign a bill that would enshrine illegal immigration on
a daily basis into law, instead of fighting back against it.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was a debate specifically designed to make her look
just moderately good and to rile him up. I mean
that's because you said they started on the economy, and
I actually think the start of the debate he got
off to a strong start. She fumbled, She was very
nervous at the beginning, and then they saw that and
they pivoted to abortion. Then you know, they go through
fifteen minutes of abortion, and I can't remember what the
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next topic was, but it might have been immigration or
the border, and he kind of finds his footing again
for a minute. Then they go to January sixth, and.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So it was like they specifically set it up again
on abortion full of lies. Yes, like they're you know,
they're like, well, you are the reason that this is happening.
And she goes through all of these you know, women
across the country are dying, they can't get healthcare, and
nobody says, well, that's not the statistic. The minute he
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says they want abortion up to the moment of birth,
they don't go to her and say, is there a
yes or no there? Do you want abortion up to
the moment of birth? They gave him two yes or nos,
which are just bs things to do during a debate.
Dessant has handled it the best when he was debating
the other Republican candidates because he said, we're not doing that.
We're not doing that. And I wish Trump had said
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that too, because you don't give him yes or nos
and not her yet. But I just don't think you
give a yes or no. I think you let somebody
explain their position. But also on abortion, I want to
be clear, and they said nobody is killing babies after birth.
Kamala Harris voted against the Born Alive Protection Act. That
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means if you have a botched abortion, which you do,
and don't tell me you don't, because you do. If
you have a botched abortion and that baby is born alive,
they are not protected. They're murdered. They are murdered. And
that has happened in Tim Wall's Minnesota multiple times. And
nobody said, well, actually, actually, miss Harris, you do allow this.
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You do allow murder. And she said and she turned
to him and she said, there is no woman that
has an abortion in the third trimester. Also a lie.
I mean, it may not be the highest number, just
like it's not the highest number on the other side
of rape and incest, but if you're gonna fact check one,
you gotta fact check the other. She had no fact
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checks last night.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And well, and so I guess what did you really expect?
Because ABC, you know Trump leading up to the debate,
he was attacking ABC rightly, so probably, but they agreed
to that debate. They meeting the Trump campaign, they agreed
to the terms, and I assume they agreed to the moderators.
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I don't know, but yeah, it was. It was three
on one. And I don't want to make excuses for
what transpired last night, but it was three on one.
And the way that they would pose questions to him,
which of course were you know, intended to put him
on defense or you know, force him to answer for something,
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and then they would go to her and say, what
is your response to that? So then she just piled.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
On and it didn't happen the other way.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, correct, And so there were a couple times where
they challenged him on what he was saying. But there
were two very blatant lies. There were many, but there
were two very blatant lies that she told. One was
her depiction of Charlottesville and what Trump said about, you know,
people people on both sides. She repeated that lie that
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of course came from Joe Biden because he still talks
about that. That's been totally debunked. And then the other
one was his comment about a blood bath, and of
course he was referring to what would happen in the
auto industry if if Biden and Harris were re elected,
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there would be an economic blood bath, which is a
very common term, but the way they have they have
spun it that they meaning Biden and Harris and the media,
which of course, you know, she.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Used blood bath as a term prior to.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yes, it's a it's a normal term. They were spinning
that as if it's going to be some sort of
you know, civil war blood bath, and she again repeated
that lie, and they did not challenge her on that
at all. And those have been thoroughly debunked in the media.
And so it was. It was three on one, and
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he was, in my opinion, he was defensive and he
was responding to her. He was not, in my opinion,
addressing what I think American people want to hear. And
it's not programs and giveaways. It's that we're going to
have secure borders, and here's how we're going to do it,
and we're going to have you know, decreased inflation, and
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here's how we're going to do it, and all of
those very critical issues.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You brought up.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
The bloodbath comment there were no discussions on EV mandates,
and you say you had you were for mandates, now
you've backtracked on mandates. How can you not specifically talk
about that when it affects so many people in this country.
I mean, effect an EV mandate affects everybody, but the
amount of union workers who are waiting to hear what
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is actually going to happen with our industry? Is the
government going to dictate free markets and take away free markets?
Now essentially she you have said that you would take
away free markets in the past, Suddenly you are now
changing your position on that. No, there was no discussion
on that. That was not talked about at all. I
thought that was disgusting that she was not fact checked
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on any of that.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
He was fact checked over five times and she was zero.
Of course, I mean that was five times. That's what
my account was when there was still twenty minutes left
in the debate, so it's probably more than that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It was shocking to me that they didn't fact check
her on anything. I mean, when she talked about that
he handed us a worldwide pandemic, they didn't even say anything.
She came out and she said he doesn't believe in
climate change, and Joe Biden and I believe that we've
seen all these weather events. We can stop these weather events.
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I'm like, are you Jesus now, like you're kind of
calm the storm, Kama.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But see that's where I think you had said, you
know that he was better in the first part, and
she what clearly was nervous, she needed to drink of water.
The amount of times you could hear the you know,
audible noises from her mouth were disgusting. I also thought
that she was a silver lining for Trump. Was how
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off putting and smug her mannerisms and her demeanor was.
I thought it was, you know, when she would put
her hand on her chin and she would have this
sort of like, you know, smirk on her face.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
She rolled her eyes, which I think is a like
debate one oh one, don't roll your eyes, don't look annoy,
don't open your mouth and gasp. You know. All of
these bizarre behaviors were like the behavior that you you
never want to see from a woman. And I know
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people are going to say, oh, don't say that, but
it's true. As a woman, you have to we all
know this. You have to behave differently in a situation
like that because of exactly what you said. And I
think a lot of men probably watched that and thought,
here she is wagging her finger at him. She's the
naggy wife, you know. And she was the one who
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kept trying to interrupt. She was the one who kept
trying to yell across the stage at him, and I
just thought that that was a weird and kind of
pathetic look. But I think it's also the look of
someone who doesn't want to talk about their record and
doesn't want to talk about their plan. I mean, Sarah,
this morning, you said, well, she did talk about her
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fifty thousand dollars for small businesses in her.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Child tax credit.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's all she said. That's the only thing she and
there was no explanation of that. There's no there was
no discussion of what that actually meant, and us are
on it because they didn't want her to have to
talk about her policies. I mean another thing, I'll just
go back to the border for a second, because I
do feel like on this day we have to address
the danger that we are in. This is a woman
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who compared Ice to the KKK. This is a woman
who said multiple times she wants to abolish ice. The
entire party, the entire Democrat Party. Gretchen Whitmer has come
out and said she thinks we should abolish ice. This
has been a theme throughout the Democrat Party. We are
sitting here on September eleventh, going are we safe? And
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no one said to her last night we're on the
eve of September. We're on the eve of September eleventh.
You have multiple times called to abolish ice. Do you
still feel that way?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
All she could do when Trump brought that stuff up
was scoff at it and do one of her facial expressions.
And I just don't think that's enough. So to your point,
why aren't the moderators stepping in any of that. I
just she got her little moment. I guess that she's
going to meme and put on TikTok of her. Just
talking about it reminded me actually of your debate with
Gretchen Whitmer, when she just goes, well, none of what
she just said is true, but then offers no explanation
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as to why it's not true. It was the same
thing all over again with Kamala, where she just got off.
She could roll her eyes and she could do those things,
and the moderators took the eye roll as her answer
and like that was her explanation.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I thought the whole thing was what transpired. I thought
was completely predictable and avoidable. And she, you know, her
history is she was a prosecutor and an attorney general,
so that was she was going to attempt to prosecute
the case against Donald Trump, and she was going to
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try to have those sorts of moments, you know, in
front of the jury where it's you know, persuadable and
you know effective. But I don't I don't know that
it was. I wish that he would have been more prepared.
He's seen very reactive and defensive. And again going back
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to what we were just talking about, a lot of
the questions were designed to put him on defense and
then it just sort of they just sort of tossed
it to her and she got to pylon. But you
talked about ev mandates. Those are the sorts of things.
I mean, you've done debates. I have not. You've done debates.
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You know that you have your basic things that you
definitely want to say, your points you definitely want to make.
And if it's getting late into the night and you
have not been able to make those, you find a
way to work him in. You go on offense. And
he didn't do.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That, and she was very much like I'm a new day.
And at the end I noticed she said I'm not
Donald Trump and I'm not Joe Biden. She made that separation.
She wanted to cut herself off from him, and they
allowed her to do it. They never went back to
her and said, actually you are it is Biden Harris,
and they didn't push back on her saying that they
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let her get away with that. She also was very
much in this I'm joy, I'm the next, I'm the
new coming of you know, obviously she can stop storms,
so she's a.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, if you're stopping tornadoes, it's a new level.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I mean, I did think one of her moments You
talked about her being a prosecutor and wanting those moments,
and I think that was one of them, when Donald
Trump was railing on Joe Biden and she looked at
him and said, hey, you're not running against Joe Biden anymore.
And I thought that was kind of one of those.
She again was the reach had lines.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I mean, he brought up the I was going to
buy you a Maga hat, which she started the ridiculous
laughing about, and I thought she handled that in a
very strange way because she knows it's true. And I
thought that was actually her reaction to that was very
telling because she just laughed, Yeah, I've changed my positions
and I can get away with it. I mean the
fact that she comes out and she's suddenly like, I'm
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a gun owner, I'll never take your guns away. Wait
a minute, how on earth does ABC not say at
that moment you have said multiple times that you want
to have a mandatory gun buyback, which we know is
not That sounds like such a nice thing. That's you're
required to get rid of your gun. She has been
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strong on that, And where are the David Hoggs of
the world going, Well, wait a minute, who's this woman
and the Star support.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Just because you own a gun yourself does not mean
that you're not for everyone else having theirs taken away.
I mean always the people with protection themselves. It has
no bearing on whether or not her policy.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And why didn't the moderators when she said she's not
Joe Biden, Why didn't the moderators say, okay, give us
one of your positions or one of your policy ideas
that is different from his, or give us one policy
see that he has that you disagree with, because there
isn't one. And I saw maybe I shouldn't say this
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because I don't know if it's true, but I saw
that her website is basically copied and pasted from his
so what is different? But no, of course the moderators
weren't going to do that, and Trump didn't do that,
So she just gets away with.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
It, right, absolutely well. She also she I think they
talked about they went through his history. They did not
go through her history at all. They never questioned her
on anything. They were, oh, my goodness, Rov Wade January sixth,
and you're a criminal. I mean, this was him on
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offense the entire night. They knew that if they could
get him in that position. And you know, you're on
stage in front of the entire world's not only the country,
You're on stage in front of the entire world. You're
supposed to be pointing out what you're going to do
differently than your opponent. You're not on trial. He was
on trial last night. This was a trial.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
She was the.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Prosecutor, and those people were junior prosecutors. They were just
sitting there next to her there as a support system.
They never said to her. Wait a minute, let us
go back to the fact that in twenty twenty you
supported these rioters. You say you support small businesses. What
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about the small businesses in Minnesota? What about all the
small businesses in Minneapolis, the billions of dollars worth of
damage that happened in that city. You have a running
mate whose wife said she opened the windows to watch
or to smell the city burning. You have a running
mate who paused at the most critical point for Minneapolis,
when Minneapolis needed him the most. He paused, are you
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going to pause in the future when we're under attack?
Because you didn't just pause, You came out and said,
stay in the streets. Stay in the streets. She made
that statement, and they said that he said that Donald
Trump said the last nime. Oh that's not true. No, No,
that is true. And it was on her website up
until like a week ago, and I don't know, maybe
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it's still there. About that fund that you can send
money to to make sure that you bail out the
bad guys. And she was saying, you go to jail,
we'll bail you out. Please donate to this fund for
the rioters who have destroyed people's small businesses, to bail
them out of jail and let them go back out
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the next night and do it again, because we want
you out so you can stay in the streets. That's
what she said. No, accountability for her words, for her destruction,
for mass destruction in this country, destruction like we have
never seen. After those riots. I think there was something
like sixty three riots or something across the country. And
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she was in a position of power as a senator.
Saint stay in the streets as someone who's who is
going to or she was running for president at the time.
She's out there telling people keep rioting. This is bolgoney?
Is she was? He mentioned you're for these sex changes,
these sex change operations for criminals. To me, it's the
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most dangerous thing. You've got somebody who's committed a crime,
and it's like the movie Face Off. You're gonna change
their face and put them back into society. Their victims
won't know who they are, Like, are you kidding me?
We're gonna pay for that, because, let's be honest, she
wants taxpayers to pay to change the face of a
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convicted criminal who has been convicted of horrendous crimes, so
we don't know who they are anymore. No way, no way.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It was a night of just like the greatest hits
for the Democrats. They got to go through exactly what
they wanted. If you watched how the media covered it,
whether it was on Twitter or afterwards. Then when they're
all live tweeting, because you know, every reporter has to
do their own little live tweet, it's very specific, I
mean clear what they specifically picked out. You know, the
abortion band question was like one of the first tweets
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I saw from the majority of the Michigan based reporters.
For instance, they know like where the gravy chain is
for the Democrats, and that's what they just want to
keep hammering. So I'm curious to see. Obviously we're up
early today before the coverage comes out for most of
this or it's coming out right now. I'm curious where
they focus the issues because my sense is that it's
going to be all about Project twenty twenty five again.
Oh another, I mean, it's going to be all of
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the things that the Democrats try to trap them on.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
That was the Project twenty twenty five. Never did they
say he has said multiple times that's not his deal,
He's not into this, this is not what he's going
to do. She threw that out multiple times. She got
to go on her whole abortion rant, and I think
that was definitely planned by ABC. Is like you've got
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a woman, she's going to be able to appeal to
all these young women. I mean, you sent us a
commercial yesterday that was horrifying to me, all these young,
young teenage girls who and I have a fifteen year old,
so to me, this is very specific. I've got a
thirteen year old and a fifteen year old, and these
girls are saying, we live in a country where we
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have a one and six chance of being raped, and
there's a candidate out there that would force us to
have that baby. And I'm like, are we not going
to freak out about the fact that that many women
are in danger in this country, that we have that
big of a crime problem, and that you would use children?
You use children in a campaign. They literally said, we
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can't vote, we're not old enough to vote, but politicians.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Will hurt us.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Oh they're hurting you already, honey.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It was very sick. Like I said, I got this
targeted digital ad and I immediately had to look it
up because I'm like, they're not using young girls to
advocate for abortion because they're afraid they're going to get raped.
It just I could not believe. It was sick that
that's what they do.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
We'll have the Midwesterner, the Midwesterner dead news. We'll have
a story about that today, so you can go there
and find a story about that. But yes, you would
think most people would take a step back and say,
wait a minute, this is how dangerous Michigan is, This
is how dangerous America is. That our girls are under
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this much threat. Maybe we should do something about that
instead of, you know, obsessing over abortion. But again, what
happened last night was predictable. You were talking about it
was the greatest hits. It was totally predictable. I mean,
it was predictable. They were going to bring up abortion
because you know, the Democrats are totally obsessed with that,
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and they were going to bring up January sixth, and
they were in all of these you know other in
his you know his you know convictions and all of that.
That was totally predictable. And so prepare for that and
not just night. And I'm not buying the argument that
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you know, what you're doing every day is preparation for
a debate.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You all were in debate prep with me, and the
reason that you do debate. Prep is so that you
have all of that information right at the tip of
your tongue when you get attacked on this or that
you know you're prepared. You know the questions they're going
to ask, and not because they give them to you
ahead of time. You go through every possible scenario. And
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whether or not she had an inkling of the questions,
I mean, it was very strange the way her answers
were prepared for the exact questions that they had. I
will say that however, they prepared her, she is a prosecutor.
He was going up against a prosecutor. They needed to
think about the fact that this was going to be
a prosecution and she was going to be very well prepared.
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I do think that there were times when you could
see that he was frustrated. You could see that he
didn't like the things that they were saying about him.
And I think that had you sat through those days
that we did of this question, and I mean very candidly,
there were Okay, they're going to ask you this question. No,
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that's you didn't do a good job of answering that.
And it's because if you don't prepare for it, it
might not be right there. But if you know the answers,
you're going to be able to crush the competition.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And stylistically, we have to remember you have one to
two minutes, depending on what the rules of each debate are.
He's used to being, you know, going to a rally
and having two hours to make his case to the
American people, and he gets it all out there. But
it's different when you're on a debate stage and you
only have one minute or two minutes. I mean, that's
the importance of the practice aspect of this, because it
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has to become second nature and you have to know
to your point, like what are those three things that
I have to say and get in and that takes practice.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
And also his style at a rally in addition to
it being very long, people know what he's talking about.
So when he talks about student loans, or he talks
about you know, rapists and murders coming across the border
and whatever, the people are following that, they know what
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he's talking about. A lot of the people that tuned
in last night, you know, are not necessarily following a
lot of these issues. And so I don't think you
can just give one sentence to something or make sort
of a generalized statement about something. You have to provide
detail in history and background and detail about her record,
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and there was not a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I'm curious how they feel about the mic muting though,
also because I that wasn't always that was not muted
at all, and I just think that was the biggest
issue that the campaigns had when trying to get this
debate settled.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think ultimately it'll be interesting to see what this does,
because I think this was the opportunity for Kamala Harris
to come out and say I have a plan that
is different than anything we've seen. She had to really
instead of just saying I'm not Joe Biden, she had
to really differentiate herself from Joe Biden. She didn't. She
didn't give the American people anything. She was the naggy wife,
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she was the yelling mother. She did not come across
as though she could discuss all of these situation, all
of these different issues in depth. She didn't have the
in depth discussion or the ability to do that. I
don't think a lot of people walked away from this
debate saying yeah, I can see her sitting down with
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President g Yes, I can see her sitting down with
President Putin and really hammering him hard. You're not going
to sit across from the at the table from Putin,
rolling your eyes and have him take He'll just get
up and walk out. She was not presidential. She was
not prepared for these in depth discussions with foreign leaders.
(36:17):
She is a prosecutor. This is good. She's good for
an hour and a half to come out and prosecute someone.
The job is not to prosecute. That's I think that
is the mistake that a lot of voters make. They go, oh,
this is a job about going out there and hammering
someone and telling them how bad they are. No, it's
a job of humility. It's a job of being able
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to sit down across the table. It's a job of service.
You are serving the American people and you're protecting them
from the most dangerous people in the world. And she
didn't prove that she can do that.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
They said that she was doing debate prep with Hillary Clinton.
And I will never you know, I'm not a Hillary
Clinton fan, will not give her credit for anything. But
in this case, this is like stylistically, Kamala just doesn't
have the presence and the demeanor, and so you talk
about her rolling her eyes, even Hillary Clinton knows not
to do that for the most part. And Hillary Clinton
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still had a presence, an adult presence on the stage
more so than Kamala did. And that's why she didn't
learn anything from Hillary's run. I don't think I think
she's leaning into the things that people had issues with
with Hillary more so at the end of the day,
I don't think it's going to help her. But it's
just interesting that that's who she took her marching orders
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from on how to go about debating him.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Well, and rewind back to what, let's say June, when
it was not on the table that Joe Biden was
going to be kicked out. To your point about Hillary,
she was a Secretary of State, she was a diplomat,
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She was disciplined, she knew she she had to be
on message. She had a different presence Kamala Harris, you
go back to June. She was a joke of a
vice president and she still is, but that was how
she was portrayed. She was given crap jobs where she
was not going to be successful. The boarder is a
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good example, and she was a joke and people laughed
at her and was not taken seriously. And remember it
was they're never going to replace Biden because what they're
going to replace him with is worse. That was the attitude.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And you make a great point because that wasn't a
yes or no question. Did you know Joe Biden was
cognitively impaired? Did you knowingly lie to the American people?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Do we have a president of the United States right now?
Yes or no? Are you okay with someone who spends
endless time on the beach? Yes or no? Will you
defend this president's record? Will you defend the Biden Harris record?
Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
And we didn't even get to the Afghanistan withdrawal, which
I have to bring up because they said to her.
You know, you said you were the last person in
the room. Are you okay with it?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, all these presidents said they were going to get
out of Afghanistan. We did it. Now the American people
don't have to pay. That wasn't the question. The question
is you botched that withdrawal? You botched it. Thirteen service
members died, and the nerve of this woman to say,
now you're not paying for this war I couldn't believe it.
(39:29):
It wasn't a question of whether or not you get out.
We knew we were getting out. Wasn't a question of
whether or not you get out of Afghanistan. It was
the fact that the images that are seared in our
minds of people falling from planes they were so desperate
to be saved. Was the fact that they left all
of our equipment, was the fact that they were totally unprepared,
And was the fact that we had service members needlessly die,
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we had people maimed for no reason. And she never
had to address that.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
She essentially said, I'm major Mond, tax payment less and
all it costs you was thirteen lives. And that's how
she I mean, that is genuinely how she talked about it,
which is just disgusting. And she actually used I think
the word pay like no one had to pay for
it or something like that, and you don't have to
pay for it, and I mean you rightly pointed out
on Twitter. Yeah, there's families that are paying for this
every single day who don't have their family members anymore.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
And there are still people who are paying for it
every single day because they were injured.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You talk about the impact. What impact do you think
the debate will have? I think the mechanics of an
election have fundamentally changed because when debates started, there wasn't
the Internet. There wasn't you know, campaign websites, which they
don't have a lot of information on them anyway. There
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was not the daily cover it, the minute by minute
coverage of everything that's going on in an election of
speeches and all of that. There was basically the evening news.
And and so I think debates played a much larger
role in an election in terms of forming opinions than
they do now. And then I think, in addition to that,
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we have two candidates, one that's in office who is
essentially the president. She's pretending that she's not, but she
essentially is. And a former president who people can judge
their records and their life experiences in terms of jobs
and making money in the economy and security and all
of that. They can judge each other. And so I
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would I would predict that after what happened last night,
not a whole lot is going to change. You know,
the media is going to you know, obsess over it,
and Democrats will you know, find their wins and all
of that. But I don't anticipate a whole lot is
going to.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Change if I would love to see the Nielsen data
afterwards to see how many people just turned it off
after the first fifteen to twenty minutes, because I think
you're right. I just think people, for the most part,
they're not moved by a debate. They watch it just
to quickly check in see if anyone falls on their face.
Apple research firms use it for clips for commercials, and
(42:13):
it doesn't really go anywhere beyond that. I know we
spent forty minutes talking about the issues and why it matters,
but I think at the end of the day, most
people have already formed their opinion on these candidates. It's
really just don't harm yourself at this point.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Well, I'll just close with saying, if you are talking
to people today and you're out there and people are saying, well,
what did you think? I think what you should take
away from that debate is that you have a president
and prosecutor, and those are two different things. You've got
one man who wants to lead, one man who wants
to negotiate, one man who wants to look at all
(42:49):
of the issues. And when you talk about are you
going to do you want Ukraine to win? Do you
want this? Do you want that? Their strategy that you
don't give away, and he understands the importance of keeping
your cards close to your best, to your chest.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
You've got to be.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Prepared to make those decisions without the entire enemy structure
knowing what you're doing. This is a woman who was
out there prosecuting, prosecuting him, prosecuting Americans. She is going
to prosecute you. You do not want a police state,
(43:29):
but that's what she is. She wants to go after you.
She wants to go after her political opponents. We've seen
it across the country with these Democrats. And if you
have the head of the snake is a prosecutor, you're
not going to be having a leader. You're not going
to be having a servant. You're going to be having
somebody who goes after the people she doesn't like. And
(43:51):
nobody needs that in this country. We've seen it. He
made it very clear that he has had he has
had weaponization. He's undergone the weapon is a of government.
He's had the government go turn on him and go
after him. And we've all seen it, and I think
most people saw that last night, and they were like,
is that really.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Your best bet?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
You got this prosecutor up here and you're talking about
how she went after him. That will be the future
under Kamal Harris. So we just have to be very careful.
And I have to say thank you to this group
for getting up today. Thank you especially to Kyle, who
was very crabby about me asking him to come in
the thriller.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
But I'm the happiest one here.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Thank you a lot to say that.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
It is very early, but you got it here first.
This is the raw discussion about the debate right after
the debate. I feels like we just literally watched the debate.
So thank you for listening. We will be back tomorrow
or actually, yeah, we will be back tomorrow. Oh gosh, yeah,
we're gonna have to talk more today. So make sure
(44:59):
you check out more episodes at Tutordison dot com, the
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts
and join us next time. I'm the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
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