In this episode, Tudor sits down with royal commentator Kinsey Schofield for a revealing deep dive into the ongoing drama inside the British Royal Family. They break down Meghan Markle’s controversial rise from Hollywood actress to Duchess of Sussex, the tension between Prince Harry and Prince William, and how royal titles continue to shape public perception. Tudor and Kinsey also examine Princess Diana’s lasting impact on her sons, the fallout from Prince Harry’s explosive memoir, and what these scandals mean for King Charles and the future of the monarchy. Packed with insider analysis, this episode offers a comprehensive look at the royal family’s evolving image, internal conflicts, and the challenges facing the Crown in a new media era. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast and today
we're talking all things Royal family. It's just kind of
going to be a an entire gossip episode because we
have Kinsey Schofield with us. She's a royal reporter and
the host of her own podcast, Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered. Thank
you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know, I also think that it's a little bit
of history too. It's not just true. You know, we're
going to educate the people, No, I do.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I want to get into some of the details with
all of this stuff happening, with the titles being lost
and all that. I do want to get into what
that all means for the whole uh, you know, princeon
and his family and or do we even call him
Prince Andrew anymore? I don't know, but I want to
get into all of that. But I think if we
(00:47):
don't talk about Megan first, because Meghan is every little
American girl's dream gone completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I know, a Hallmark act just turned actual princess. It's
you know, you couldn't even make it up. And I
you know, I don't know where you were on the spectrum,
but I loved her and I could not, you know,
I wanted to be her. I was like, Wow, what
an incredible opportunity. You are a hard working person and
you get in front of, you know, a prince and
(01:20):
he's smitten with you.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And then it all went to hades.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I mean, I was so disappointed to see them step
down as working members of the British royal family. And
they could have come to the United States and been loved, quietly,
worked the charity circuits and made great you know, established
great relationships and connections, and I don't know, ten twenty
years decided that they were going to control the narrative
(01:48):
and tell all of these secrets. And Princess Diana survived
the royal family for sixteen years before the divorce and
before really she started to tell her secrets. And when
it came to Harry and Meghan, they immediately come over
to the States. And I think race bait in the
(02:08):
midst of really difficult about time. There's so much that
I culturally, yeah, and I think that in America we
applaud winners, we applaud self made people, and we don't
want to, you know, celebrate victimhood. And I think that
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that's a huge mistake that they made right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But we also have this, I mean, Americans have a
soft spot for the Royal family. Regardless of our split,
there is still some romantic feelings about the Royal family.
We all watched the weddings. We were very we love Diana,
we are all very involved in this, so we did
watch and I do think that there was a moment
when we went, oh, my gosh, you could actually grow
(02:53):
up to be a princess. This is I mean, there
are literally movies on Netflix all the time about this,
which apparently also has Meghan Markele stuff on it that
is clearly not this because she abandoned them. But what
I understand I just read this story was that when
they sent them to Frogmore Cottage, when they were like
this is where you're going to live, Megan kind of
(03:15):
freaked out, like, I'm not a rural person. I lived
in La I want to live in the city. I'm
not doing this. This is not good for me. I mean,
could it have just been that?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Really?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Is that so horrible to live in a cottage, a
royal cottage.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
This summer I got to see that area. I was taken,
you know, back where I'm not supposed to be by
someone that had permission to be there. I had permission
to be there because I was a guest, and I
could not believe that she left that life. It's fields
and fields of horses running wild, and beautiful flowers and trees,
(03:53):
and it is an escape and it is rural. But
if you are two people that claim to want privacy,
how can we that there is no one near you?
It's in the sweetest little tone of windsor it's like
this tiny village that would be you would imagine a
Disney movie, would you know, copy and paste it was, which.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Seems like it would go along well with her show
With Love Megan Holiday Celebration. She has this new I
just watched the trailer for this with Love Megan Holiday
Celebration show on Netflix, and that was like, let me
take you through my house and let me take you
through my yard. And I don't know if it's actually
her yard or her house, because I think there was
some scandal where she was like, this is how we
(04:35):
live and it's not because that seems to.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Be who she is.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But if her whole persona is I have this like
countryside living. She actually hated that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, no, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, she, I mean she is a contradiction in so
many different ways. You know, there's the scene in the
Netflix series where she dramatically curtsies and is kind of
the vibe is that how silly that she has to
curtsey to Queen Elizabeth, and she's very dramatic about it,
and Harry's face is just absolutely miserable.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
But then she asks the house.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Manager in New York to announce her as the Duchess
of Sussex as the Harper's Bizarre journalist enters the room.
You know, she wants to be formally announced with her title.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
When was that?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That was when Harry and Megan accepted their Humanitarians of
the Year award. I believe that was in October. If
it's not in October, it's in September.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So this year they still have those titles. I mean,
is she still considered that she is?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I mean, I would say temporarily. I mean, I'm pretty confident,
you know, and my sources do say that Prince William,
once he becomes king, is going to strip them all
and it's less about vengeance and more about it's easier
to control the royal family brand if you don't have
all of these people all over the world that are
(06:00):
monetizing it, or you know, there's the cash for access
scandals that we saw Andrew and Fergie experience and participate in.
I should say, but she's not allowed per the Sandringham Agreement,
which was the mexit agreement, to monetize her title to
to She's not allowed to utilize her proximity to the
(06:23):
British royal family to fatten her pockets. But you know,
if you're on the cover of Harper's Bizarre shilling jam
how is that not a conflict with that agreement? So
you know, she sent Jamie kern Lima a basket of
goodies and in that basket she signs it HRH you
know Megan Duchess of Sussex. Well, Jamie in turn posts
(06:47):
it on Instagram influencer style, you know, marketing, digital marketing,
and they are in turn promoting her products. So I
see multiple violations of the Sandringham Agreement. And the only
reason they were able to keep certain perks like the
title was because they told the Queen that we won't
utilize them and we won't do anything that embarrasses the family.
(07:11):
I mean, I could come up with a million things
that they've done that have embarrassed the family Since then,
you know, Harry talking about William's baldness and his book
which was totally unnecessary, and I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The whole book.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, Dodger, Todger let me.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'm curious about the book because I haven't read the
book because I think it's one of those things where
I mean, I should read the book just so that
I can talk about it. But it is it seems
very personal to us that we are embarrassing to us
that somehow an American went over and destroyed what we
had watched. We've watched these kids grow up, we watched
(07:47):
them go through horrible tragedy. They feel like fixtures in
our homes, you know, like we feel like we get
to know them. How did she, I'm assuming it's her.
How did he get convinced to write this tell all book?
I mean, this is a You're not coming home, I'm
done kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I don't think he's that bright. I don't think he
realized that. I mean, how could that be, Prince Andrew,
I mean, look at how I think he is that dumb.
But he says and this might have been a rare
honest moment in the Oprah Winfrey sit down that he
(08:25):
was so strapped for cash because his father cut him
off as a forty year old man, that he had
to sign these deals with Spotify, he had to sign
these deals with Netflix, and you know, I include Penguin
Random House in that because it was around the same
time that he signs the book deal. I do think
that he was looking for a quick payday, and I
(08:47):
also think he was incredibly bitter that things didn't turn
out the way that they wanted them to. You know,
I've they recently hinted it going back to Australia, so
I've been looking back into their official royal engagements in Australia.
And Tom Bauer, an incredible investigative author, writes that in
twenty eighteen when they went to Australia, they saw their popularity.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know, in a new light, and.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Diana was incredibly popular in Australia. So Meghan starts to
compare herself to Princess Diana, and that's really when they
decide that there's going to be a shift and that
they do not want to be you know, they don't
want to have to walk behind Prince William and Catherine,
Princess of Wales, they bring more to the table, and
(09:34):
that's when they start to develop these lists of demands,
which ultimately like, it's so funny that we're all watching
this Christmas trailer and preparing for this Christmas special. When
it's Christmas time, when Meghan and Harry go off to
Canada and start to plot this, well, what they wanted
to do was half in, half out. But what we
realize is Meghan is so destructive, and Meghan is breaking
(09:57):
this family apart during the holidays that she's now trying
to hijack as her own. And you're like, no, actually,
during Christmas, you're doing whatever the opposite is of, you know,
everybody around the table, snuggling with each other and loving
on each other. But the Royal family said, you're not
going to do half in, half out. You know, it
doesn't matter how popular you are. It's not about us.
(10:18):
It's about the institution in general. And we're not here
to promote ourselves. We're here to promote great causes, great charities,
other people that are making a difference in the world.
And there was a real clash there, and you know,
I think that they thought that their popularity would shield them.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We even see that sometimes and their behavior here in
the States.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I don't understand why they are still considered popular. I
find her abhorrent. I mean, I think that she destroyed
an institution that we all love very much. We look
at this family broken apart. These boys already lost their
mom in such a tragic way. Now William is by himself.
(11:03):
They were so we What we had seen was that
they were very close. Was it true that they were
very close as brothers?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They were so close, and Harry tries to rewrite history
a little bit in his book when he talks about
how he felt like the third wheel and he didn't
feel included. They went out of their way to include him.
There's a really beautiful story about Harry coming back from Afghanistan.
I believe it was Australian media that leaked where he was,
(11:33):
that he was in a war zone. And you know,
I don't know if Australia didn't get the memo, but
I mean, everybody was purposely not reporting this to protect him.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And so he has to come back.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
He's completely defeated that he's been pulled, you know, from combat.
And William is in the room as he's taking questions
from journalists, and Harry's really mad at the journalists because
he knows one of them leaked where he was and
jeopardized his safety. And now he's a home and he
can't do what he wants to do with just fight.
And William actually inserts himself and pulls Harry out of
(12:09):
the interview because he can tell he's getting frustrated. You know,
William has protected Harry his entire life. I will say
I think that the Palace created Harry as a character.
I think that they did a great job in branding
him as something that he's not. I don't think that
he's this courageous, brave, strong, resilient individual, because that's not
(12:31):
who we've seen in the last five years. We've seen
a very weak man who's been led around by his wife,
who is a perpetual victim, and you know, rarely is
thankful for the position he's been given. I mean, he's
America's favorite noble baby.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's what is I think the most shocking about what
we've seen him coming here and writing Spare and being
the victim. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue
next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. To be honest, like
when you go back when I was growing up watching Diana,
I was amazed by her. She seemed like she had
(13:10):
it was like that it factor. People were drawn to her.
She was able to go anywhere. She was very popular.
But if you watch the videos of her, she's very awkward,
she's very depressed, and she's very much a victim. And
he is very much like that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, shy die, you know, she's like looking away. Yeah,
I mean, I think I would truly believe that Prince
William inherited her greatest qualities. He has a very fun
sense of humor. I when the last time I was
around him up Cloaks in Personal I had been on
Harry Watch for two years, and I was so surprised
(13:49):
at how animated and silly and fun Prince William was.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It almost knocked me off my feet.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
He was so silly and had so much personality, and
was talking about how he couldn't take Catherine anyway because
she was always the last, you know, to She was deep, deep,
deep in the line, talking to people, heavily involved in conversations,
and he's like, we got to get the ball rolling.
And then he said his favorite emoji was the eggplant,
which you know, I'm sure you're keen to one. We
(14:17):
think that we associate the eggplant with and so, I mean,
I was really surprised at how sweet, fun and charismatic
Prince William was, and I do attribute that to Princess Diana.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And with Harry.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
He's paranoid, he's angry, he is unrealistic. He lives, you know,
in a delusional fantasy world. And it does feel like
without considering the consequences of everything that happened to Diana,
they've looked at her playbook. I'm listening to Diana Rama
(14:52):
right now, which is about the BBC's horrible deception and
how they secured her Panorama interview and ultimately, I mean,
I'm co and saying it led to her death because
she was They lie about people spying on her to
secure the interview, like to ingratiate themselves. Diana, all these people.
I have proof that these people are spying on you.
(15:13):
This is Martin Basher from the BBC.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
This.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You know, Prince William has spoken out about how horrible,
this horribly this affected his life, this this deception, and
so Diana fires her the Royal Protection team that's been
protecting her, and you know a few years later, she
dies in a Paris tunnel because she doesn't have royal
(15:36):
protection there, confirming that everything's this, this scenario she's in
is an appropriate scenario. And so I see a lot
of Prince Harry copying some of her playbook. The Panorama
interview that some say led to the death of Diana.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's the Oprah Winfrey interview.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know, Spare is Diana her true story written by
Andrew Morton, but we now know Diana was.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
The lead contributor to that book.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And I think that they just do a lot of
the same things Diana did. We even see it in
Megan's cosplaying of her outfits in her posess.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
This creepy thing where she dresses like her too.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
She absolutely does, but they don't consider what the consequences were.
That Panorama interview destroyed Diana's relationship with Prince William.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
He was devastated by it.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
She was stripped of multiple royal perks after that interview.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So to your point that Harry, did Harry really write
Spare thinking that everything would be fine? I think he did,
because you know, he watched his mother do similar things.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So there is a long standing, Like I feel like
there's a long standing I don't know how to say it.
Moronic men in the royal family situation. I mean you
have or men that are led astray by women too.
I mean you look at Queen Elizabeth, the man who
was meant to have the throne, her uncle abdicated because
(17:11):
of an American woman. So he gets to in his life.
Really she was also a challenge and his life didn't
end up so great. And then you've got Andrew. Andrew
has always been a total disaster. And when you talked
about William wanting to take away these royal titles, he's
looking at some of the other from what I understand,
(17:33):
you'll know this better than me, but he's looking at
some of these other countries that they've done this where
they've kind of limited the amount of royal titles you
can have because you're essentially limiting scandal and you've had
to take away the royal title. What happens to Andrew
Now he's had his titles stripped, he's had his privileges stripped.
I don't know what that means, but is he just
(17:54):
is he broke What happens to him.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean, he's not broke.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He has a significant amount of money, and he he
had this thing called Pitch of the Palace where he
would connect entrepreneurs with investors. And it's my understanding that
there is a company I believe in Japan that want
to do something similar or utilize just utilize his contacts.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
They'll pay him for his contacts.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That was the last time I heard of any sort
of business venture with Prince Andrew.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What will he do now?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
For the royal family's sake, He'll disappear to Sandering him,
He'll live on in one of the homes on the
estate and we'll never hear or see from him again.
I'm under the impression that Fergie will write a book.
I don't know what is left to say. And I also,
you know, I think that we'll be promised a lot,
(18:50):
but she won't deliver a lot because I don't think
she wants to jeopardize the future for her daughters, who
King Charles does love, Beatrice and Eugenie, the princesses who
still have their titles. So I mean, the best case
scenario would be that Andrew would just up and disappear.
And I always like feel obligated to say. He says
he's innocent of everything. It's a little odd that he
(19:10):
would pay somebody twelve million pounds that he never met,
or would allow his mother.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
To cut that check.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But it truly is in the court of public opinion
guilt by association when it comes to some of those emails,
and when it comes to the photographs of him and
Jeffrey Epstein walking around Central Park. I just think he
needs to go away because people resent the site of him.
But like you said, he's not always He's not ever
been known as a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He's not ever really been known as post randy Andy.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
When he came back from the Falklands, you know, he
developed a pretty bad reputation for being rude to staff,
rude to people, and being an ungrateful, arrogant man.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, Charles sort of has a reputation for being a
little bit arrogant or very arrogant, and maybe not rude,
but very arrogant and kind of like unaware of the
people around him, which I've heard that he is. You know,
he's very demanding, he wants things a certain way, like
he has a very different personality from his mother from
what I understand, and William is a little bit more
(20:17):
like his grandmother. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I think William, when it comes to wanting things, his
way is very much like his father, which is sometimes
why they clash. I mean, a post cancer King Charles
is a much different Charles than I think Americans are
familiar with, and we are for some reason, we love
Princess Diana over here. I mean, I'm not saying that
(20:40):
there's anything wrong with that. I love Diana. That's how
I launched my royal career covering Diana. So I love
Diana too. But I do think that we fixate on
the Diana years of the king's life. And I mean
I met him three weeks ago and he was incredibly
gentle and so and worried about what we were saying
(21:02):
in the States, and I was.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like, don't worry, we love you. But yeah, I understand
what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It is hard to not associate him with the rejection
and pain and devastation of the Diana divorce, and in
fixating on that, I think that it's harder to sympathize
with him and think that he might be a softer character.
But I do think that he's softened over the years
(21:30):
and that the cancer has really affected his outlook on life.
And part of the reason why I don't think he
handled Prince Andrew as soon as he should have or Andrew,
I should say my Batten Windsor as soon as he
should have, was because a I've always heard that he
promised Queen Elizabeth that he would take care of his brother,
that she was worried about that, and be he does
(21:54):
not like drama, he does not like confrontation.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a two Dixon podcast. If I have the story correct,
he didn't really want to marry Diana, he would have gone.
He really loved Camilla always right, He.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Did love Camilla, but Camilla ran off and married Andrew
Parker Bowles, who was a playboy. I mean Camilla should
have known she was setting herself up for disappointment because.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Why was it because she couldn't marry him? Was there
some rule or what was then.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
He went off.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
He went off to serve I believe he was going
to expect it to be away.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
For three years.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And Andrew Parker Bowles was around. Andrew Parker Bowles, who
also dated King Charles's sister Princess Anne, and everybody was
in love with Andrew Parker Bulls and Andrew Parker Bowles
looked at Camilla a coup, and Camilla was like, I'm
going to secure that because he's so handsome and everybody's
crazy about him. She you know, her great great her
(22:57):
great grandmother was King Charles great great grandfather's mistress. So
the reality was, what are the odds that you are
going to get to marry that guy When you have
that kind of family history.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It's a little incestuous feeling.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And so I don't think she ever really saw herself
as a legitimate option for him. You know, Diana had
to prove that she was a virgin before she married
King Charles. There were such severe expectations still at the time,
and yees, so King Charles he'd seen Diana I think
(23:33):
three times before the family had decided she would make
a good bride, and Prince Philip had cornered him at
one point. There's this rumor, I mean, they were headlines
at the time that they assumed Diana was seen getting
on a train with King Charles, and so there were
(23:54):
all these overnight which was a scandal. So there were
all these headlines about was Diana the blow on the
train with King Charles at the time, and Prince Philip
corners him, knowing that it wasn't Diana on the train
with him and says, you're ruining this girl's reputation. You
know you have to you either pursue her and we
lock this down, or you let her go because she's
(24:16):
going to be you know, brand wise, I don't reputationally,
we're damaging her reputation by allowing some of these headlines
to exist. And so I do think that Prince Charles
at the time felt pressure to marry her when his
heart really wasn't into it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Interesting so with the future of the royal family, with
William looking at titles differently and knowing what happened with
his own brother, some of the royals in other countries
have decided not to bestow titles upon their own children
and just at I guess pass it on once they
(24:56):
are of age. But what happens with his kids. Does
he do they all continue to keep their titles once
he's king or does he say, well, I don't want
the drama I had with my own brother.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Well, you know, Princess Anne did not give her children titles.
Zara and Philip they don't have titles, and Prince Andrew
demanded that Princess Beatrice and Eugenie have titles. So Prince
Edward's children don't utilize theirs. So I do think him, Yeah,
it's because he's so sane, it's because he's so normal.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
But no scandal, you just fall out of the public
eye exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
So I think that it will be a case by
case basis. Obviously they are preparing. Prince George is the heir,
you know, we just recently saw him at Royal Albert
Hall with his mother, attend a Remembrance Day event with
his mother for veterans, and he was there in replacement
(25:55):
of his father who was late coming home from Rio
for the Earthshot Prize. So I do think that it's
obvious to us that they are quietly preparing Prince George.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But I don't know what the expectations will be.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I know that they specifically don't utilize the word spare
about their children, which you know Harry complains about it,
but that.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Was Diana's doing.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Diana would be like I gave him the air and
the spare talking about how much she'd sacrifice for that relationship,
and so I know that they don't like to do
that to their own children. William and Catherine, they don't
utilize that type of language because they want to make
sure that nobody feels unworthy.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Is it true that they are actually truly a close
knit family. I read that he starts work at ten
in the morning and he's done by four so that
he can spend time with the family.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, it is true, and I feel bad for him
because he's criticized a lot for it within the house,
within the royal palaces, within the other households, because you know,
William and Catherine have their own household, and King Charles
and Queen Camilla have their own household, and it does
irritate some of the courtiers that William wants to be
(27:14):
home and be with his babies and prioritize his family.
But I think just watching William's children versus watching William
as a child, you can tell that his children are
in a loving home with two parents that are completely committed.
Even when Prince Louis is acting out and you're seeing
(27:34):
the Princess of Wales try to settle him down care
embarrassing guess which she never says, but you when you
see them, you know, interacting with each other and he's
acting out, you can tell that he's a loved little
boy and he's a free spirit because he has the
opportunity to be at home.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And yeah, I do believe.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, I've been in I can't tell you how
many times I've been so excited because I'm going to
see William and he's had to cancel because something's come
up at home, and you know, that's where he wants
to be. And even though I'm heartbroken, I understand and
I really admire that because if you do believe Diana
her true story, she does say that Charles spent a
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lot of time away from them, and even in Harry's
spare he says something similar. So I think it's great
that those kids are around their mother and father so often.
And also I wish they'd give that family a break,
because you know, William was incredibly traumatized at the thought
of losing his wife so young and having to raise
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those children on his own. That was a horrible experience
for them. And yeah, I think he's, you know, celebrating
every day he.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Has with her.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Does he ever publicly talk about his relationship with his father.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He doesn't talk about their relationship, but he does quite
often credit his father for his you know, pursuits, his interests.
We used to make fun of King Charles for talking
to plants, and now everything he said environmentally is trendy
today and something that you know, people with the real
(29:13):
credentials are saying, we need to take seriously when it
comes to that type of pursuit, when it comes to
being an environmentalist or how we can leave the earth
better than we found it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
So he does talk a lot about how his.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Father inspired some of his biggest royal initiatives, like the
Earth Shot Prize.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You mentioned that Diana's interview affected her relationship with William.
How has that affected him as a leader and as
a family man and even his I imagine that that's kind
of like going through that trauma all over again with
his own brother.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, it's my understanding that right before the Panorama interview
where Diana says there were three of us in this marriage,
she admits to her affair with James Hewitt, who was
the boy's writing instructor. I mean, this was all very like,
oh so salacious at the time. Also, it's contradicting so
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much work that the Palace had put into killing some
of these stories on her behalf and on behalf of
her children so they wouldn't be embarrassed by some of
these things. It's my understanding that Williams, the head of
William's school, found out about the interview and asked Diana
to please come out and talk to William and warn
him about it before it aired, And so she did
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and tried to.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Make it out like it wasn't going to be that
big of a deal.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And I don't know how many people know this, but
it's my understanding that William watched the interview and in
somebody in leadership's office at Eton, and when they came
back at the end, he was in tears.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
He was so worked up over it.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, it is humiliating your mom is airing the
family's dirty laundry, and so how does it affect you know?
I do think that he goes out of his way
to protect his family.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
There's a viral video of a photographer.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Following them when they're all on bicycles, you know, out
in the middle of nowhere, just riding bikes as a family,
and William gets in his face and says, you're not
going to record my family, get out of here. He's
incredibly protective of his family, and we rarely rarely see
those moments where people photographers do violate the family's privacy,
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which I think is important to mention because Harry and
Megan act like that's why they had.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
To flee flee the UK.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
But I think that it probably did feel like an
unbelievable violation when Prince Harry started doing things that were
very similar. And I think it's incredibly unfair for Megan
mark Well to dress his Diana Diana and cosplay is Diana.
For Prince William to have to see that in the press,
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that has to be very unsettling.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah. I think that's the thing that has haunted all
of us, especially here in the United States, where we
feel like, well, we created her and now she is
altering their life so dramatically, And even the stories that
came out, and when I forgot about the race baiting
and how the curtsy that was so humiliating, we watched
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someone just Harry, completely humiliated by her, and that was
a moment where I think we all went, oh, this
is this is not a healthy relationship. This is not okay.
And I think we've given him a lot of grace
for the book. But he chose and he knew what
he was doing, and I think that grace can only
go so far, especially if you're the family. But I
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could talk to you about this forever. We didn't even
get to her acting and going back to that and
what that means for Harry.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But what that means not a lot.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Okay, Good luck Meghan.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean really, I don't know who watches her show
as it I'm like, who watches this again?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
To watch this?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yes? Yes, absolutely, I don't know. I guess they're getting
paid for it, and it seems like they'll do anything
to get paid. So I feel like that's just the
measure of whether or not we're watching Harry and Meghan.
Are they getting paid for it? So, but you gave
us great insight into the royal family today. Thank you
so much for being on the show today.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Where can people follow you so they can keep up
on the Royal family?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Oh, come get the best gossip at Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered
on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts awesome?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
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You are listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast and today
we're talking all things Royal family. It's just kind of
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have Kinsey Schofield with us. She's a royal reporter and
the host of her own podcast, Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered. Thank
you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know, I also think that it's a little bit
of history too. It's not just true. You know, we're
going to educate the people, No, I do.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I want to get into some of the details with
all of this stuff happening, with the titles being lost
and all that. I do want to get into what
that all means for the whole uh, you know, princeon
and his family and or do we even call him
Prince Andrew anymore? I don't know, but I want to
get into all of that. But I think if we
(00:47):
don't talk about Megan first, because Meghan is every little
American girl's dream gone completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I know, a Hallmark act just turned actual princess. It's
you know, you couldn't even make it up. And I
you know, I don't know where you were on the spectrum,
but I loved her and I could not, you know,
I wanted to be her. I was like, Wow, what
an incredible opportunity. You are a hard working person and
you get in front of, you know, a prince and
(01:20):
he's smitten with you.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And then it all went to hades.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I mean, I was so disappointed to see them step
down as working members of the British royal family. And
they could have come to the United States and been loved, quietly,
worked the charity circuits and made great you know, established
great relationships and connections, and I don't know, ten twenty
years decided that they were going to control the narrative
(01:48):
and tell all of these secrets. And Princess Diana survived
the royal family for sixteen years before the divorce and
before really she started to tell her secrets. And when
it came to Harry and Meghan, they immediately come over
to the States. And I think race bait in the
(02:08):
midst of really difficult about time. There's so much that
I culturally, yeah, and I think that in America we
applaud winners, we applaud self made people, and we don't
want to, you know, celebrate victimhood. And I think that
(02:29):
that's a huge mistake that they made right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But we also have this, I mean, Americans have a
soft spot for the Royal family. Regardless of our split,
there is still some romantic feelings about the Royal family.
We all watched the weddings. We were very we love Diana,
we are all very involved in this, so we did
watch and I do think that there was a moment
when we went, oh, my gosh, you could actually grow
(02:53):
up to be a princess. This is I mean, there
are literally movies on Netflix all the time about this,
which apparently also has Meghan Markele stuff on it that
is clearly not this because she abandoned them. But what
I understand I just read this story was that when
they sent them to Frogmore Cottage, when they were like
this is where you're going to live, Megan kind of
(03:15):
freaked out, like, I'm not a rural person. I lived
in La I want to live in the city. I'm
not doing this. This is not good for me. I mean,
could it have just been that?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Really?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Is that so horrible to live in a cottage, a
royal cottage.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
This summer I got to see that area. I was taken,
you know, back where I'm not supposed to be by
someone that had permission to be there. I had permission
to be there because I was a guest, and I
could not believe that she left that life. It's fields
and fields of horses running wild, and beautiful flowers and trees,
(03:53):
and it is an escape and it is rural. But
if you are two people that claim to want privacy,
how can we that there is no one near you?
It's in the sweetest little tone of windsor it's like
this tiny village that would be you would imagine a
Disney movie, would you know, copy and paste it was, which.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Seems like it would go along well with her show
With Love Megan Holiday Celebration. She has this new I
just watched the trailer for this with Love Megan Holiday
Celebration show on Netflix, and that was like, let me
take you through my house and let me take you
through my yard. And I don't know if it's actually
her yard or her house, because I think there was
some scandal where she was like, this is how we
(04:35):
live and it's not because that seems to.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Be who she is.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But if her whole persona is I have this like
countryside living. She actually hated that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, no, exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, she, I mean she is a contradiction in so
many different ways. You know, there's the scene in the
Netflix series where she dramatically curtsies and is kind of
the vibe is that how silly that she has to
curtsey to Queen Elizabeth, and she's very dramatic about it,
and Harry's face is just absolutely miserable.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
But then she asks the house.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Manager in New York to announce her as the Duchess
of Sussex as the Harper's Bizarre journalist enters the room.
You know, she wants to be formally announced with her title.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
When was that?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That was when Harry and Megan accepted their Humanitarians of
the Year award. I believe that was in October. If
it's not in October, it's in September.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So this year they still have those titles. I mean,
is she still considered that she is?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I mean, I would say temporarily. I mean, I'm pretty confident,
you know, and my sources do say that Prince William,
once he becomes king, is going to strip them all
and it's less about vengeance and more about it's easier
to control the royal family brand if you don't have
all of these people all over the world that are
(06:00):
monetizing it, or you know, there's the cash for access
scandals that we saw Andrew and Fergie experience and participate in.
I should say, but she's not allowed per the Sandringham Agreement,
which was the mexit agreement, to monetize her title to
to She's not allowed to utilize her proximity to the
(06:23):
British royal family to fatten her pockets. But you know,
if you're on the cover of Harper's Bizarre shilling jam
how is that not a conflict with that agreement? So
you know, she sent Jamie kern Lima a basket of
goodies and in that basket she signs it HRH you
know Megan Duchess of Sussex. Well, Jamie in turn posts
(06:47):
it on Instagram influencer style, you know, marketing, digital marketing,
and they are in turn promoting her products. So I
see multiple violations of the Sandringham Agreement. And the only
reason they were able to keep certain perks like the
title was because they told the Queen that we won't
utilize them and we won't do anything that embarrasses the family.
(07:11):
I mean, I could come up with a million things
that they've done that have embarrassed the family Since then,
you know, Harry talking about William's baldness and his book
which was totally unnecessary, and I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The whole book.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, Dodger, Todger let me.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'm curious about the book because I haven't read the
book because I think it's one of those things where
I mean, I should read the book just so that
I can talk about it. But it is it seems
very personal to us that we are embarrassing to us
that somehow an American went over and destroyed what we
had watched. We've watched these kids grow up, we watched
(07:47):
them go through horrible tragedy. They feel like fixtures in
our homes, you know, like we feel like we get
to know them. How did she, I'm assuming it's her.
How did he get convinced to write this tell all book?
I mean, this is a You're not coming home, I'm
done kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I don't think he's that bright. I don't think he
realized that. I mean, how could that be, Prince Andrew,
I mean, look at how I think he is that dumb.
But he says and this might have been a rare
honest moment in the Oprah Winfrey sit down that he
(08:25):
was so strapped for cash because his father cut him
off as a forty year old man, that he had
to sign these deals with Spotify, he had to sign
these deals with Netflix, and you know, I include Penguin
Random House in that because it was around the same
time that he signs the book deal. I do think
that he was looking for a quick payday, and I
(08:47):
also think he was incredibly bitter that things didn't turn
out the way that they wanted them to. You know,
I've they recently hinted it going back to Australia, so
I've been looking back into their official royal engagements in Australia.
And Tom Bauer, an incredible investigative author, writes that in
twenty eighteen when they went to Australia, they saw their popularity.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know, in a new light, and.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Diana was incredibly popular in Australia. So Meghan starts to
compare herself to Princess Diana, and that's really when they
decide that there's going to be a shift and that
they do not want to be you know, they don't
want to have to walk behind Prince William and Catherine,
Princess of Wales, they bring more to the table, and
(09:34):
that's when they start to develop these lists of demands,
which ultimately like, it's so funny that we're all watching
this Christmas trailer and preparing for this Christmas special. When
it's Christmas time, when Meghan and Harry go off to
Canada and start to plot this, well, what they wanted
to do was half in, half out. But what we
realize is Meghan is so destructive, and Meghan is breaking
(09:57):
this family apart during the holidays that she's now trying
to hijack as her own. And you're like, no, actually,
during Christmas, you're doing whatever the opposite is of, you know,
everybody around the table, snuggling with each other and loving
on each other. But the Royal family said, you're not
going to do half in, half out. You know, it
doesn't matter how popular you are. It's not about us.
(10:18):
It's about the institution in general. And we're not here
to promote ourselves. We're here to promote great causes, great charities,
other people that are making a difference in the world.
And there was a real clash there, and you know,
I think that they thought that their popularity would shield them.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We even see that sometimes and their behavior here in
the States.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I don't understand why they are still considered popular. I
find her abhorrent. I mean, I think that she destroyed
an institution that we all love very much. We look
at this family broken apart. These boys already lost their
mom in such a tragic way. Now William is by himself.
(11:03):
They were so we What we had seen was that
they were very close. Was it true that they were
very close as brothers?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
They were so close, and Harry tries to rewrite history
a little bit in his book when he talks about
how he felt like the third wheel and he didn't
feel included. They went out of their way to include him.
There's a really beautiful story about Harry coming back from Afghanistan.
I believe it was Australian media that leaked where he was,
(11:33):
that he was in a war zone. And you know,
I don't know if Australia didn't get the memo, but
I mean, everybody was purposely not reporting this to protect him.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And so he has to come back.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
He's completely defeated that he's been pulled, you know, from combat.
And William is in the room as he's taking questions
from journalists, and Harry's really mad at the journalists because
he knows one of them leaked where he was and
jeopardized his safety. And now he's a home and he
can't do what he wants to do with just fight.
And William actually inserts himself and pulls Harry out of
(12:09):
the interview because he can tell he's getting frustrated. You know,
William has protected Harry his entire life. I will say
I think that the Palace created Harry as a character.
I think that they did a great job in branding
him as something that he's not. I don't think that
he's this courageous, brave, strong, resilient individual, because that's not
(12:31):
who we've seen in the last five years. We've seen
a very weak man who's been led around by his wife,
who is a perpetual victim, and you know, rarely is
thankful for the position he's been given. I mean, he's
America's favorite noble baby.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's what is I think the most shocking about what
we've seen him coming here and writing Spare and being
the victim. Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue
next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. To be honest, like
when you go back when I was growing up watching Diana,
I was amazed by her. She seemed like she had
(13:10):
it was like that it factor. People were drawn to her.
She was able to go anywhere. She was very popular.
But if you watch the videos of her, she's very awkward,
she's very depressed, and she's very much a victim. And
he is very much like that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, shy die, you know, she's like looking away. Yeah,
I mean, I think I would truly believe that Prince
William inherited her greatest qualities. He has a very fun
sense of humor. I when the last time I was
around him up Cloaks in Personal I had been on
Harry Watch for two years, and I was so surprised
(13:49):
at how animated and silly and fun Prince William was.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It almost knocked me off my feet.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
He was so silly and had so much personality, and
was talking about how he couldn't take Catherine anyway because
she was always the last, you know, to She was deep, deep,
deep in the line, talking to people, heavily involved in conversations,
and he's like, we got to get the ball rolling.
And then he said his favorite emoji was the eggplant,
which you know, I'm sure you're keen to one. We
(14:17):
think that we associate the eggplant with and so, I mean,
I was really surprised at how sweet, fun and charismatic
Prince William was, and I do attribute that to Princess Diana.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And with Harry.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
He's paranoid, he's angry, he is unrealistic. He lives, you know,
in a delusional fantasy world. And it does feel like
without considering the consequences of everything that happened to Diana,
they've looked at her playbook. I'm listening to Diana Rama
(14:52):
right now, which is about the BBC's horrible deception and
how they secured her Panorama interview and ultimately, I mean,
I'm co and saying it led to her death because
she was They lie about people spying on her to
secure the interview, like to ingratiate themselves. Diana, all these people.
I have proof that these people are spying on you.
(15:13):
This is Martin Basher from the BBC.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
This.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You know, Prince William has spoken out about how horrible,
this horribly this affected his life, this this deception, and
so Diana fires her the Royal Protection team that's been
protecting her, and you know a few years later, she
dies in a Paris tunnel because she doesn't have royal
(15:36):
protection there, confirming that everything's this, this scenario she's in
is an appropriate scenario. And so I see a lot
of Prince Harry copying some of her playbook. The Panorama
interview that some say led to the death of Diana.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's the Oprah Winfrey interview.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
You know, Spare is Diana her true story written by
Andrew Morton, but we now know Diana was.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
The lead contributor to that book.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
And I think that they just do a lot of
the same things Diana did. We even see it in
Megan's cosplaying of her outfits in her posess.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
This creepy thing where she dresses like her too.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
She absolutely does, but they don't consider what the consequences were.
That Panorama interview destroyed Diana's relationship with Prince William.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
He was devastated by it.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
She was stripped of multiple royal perks after that interview.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So to your point that Harry, did Harry really write
Spare thinking that everything would be fine? I think he did,
because you know, he watched his mother do similar things.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So there is a long standing, Like I feel like
there's a long standing I don't know how to say it.
Moronic men in the royal family situation. I mean you
have or men that are led astray by women too.
I mean you look at Queen Elizabeth, the man who
was meant to have the throne, her uncle abdicated because
(17:11):
of an American woman. So he gets to in his life.
Really she was also a challenge and his life didn't
end up so great. And then you've got Andrew. Andrew
has always been a total disaster. And when you talked
about William wanting to take away these royal titles, he's
looking at some of the other from what I understand,
(17:33):
you'll know this better than me, but he's looking at
some of these other countries that they've done this where
they've kind of limited the amount of royal titles you
can have because you're essentially limiting scandal and you've had
to take away the royal title. What happens to Andrew
Now he's had his titles stripped, he's had his privileges stripped.
I don't know what that means, but is he just
(17:54):
is he broke What happens to him.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean, he's not broke.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He has a significant amount of money, and he he
had this thing called Pitch of the Palace where he
would connect entrepreneurs with investors. And it's my understanding that
there is a company I believe in Japan that want
to do something similar or utilize just utilize his contacts.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
They'll pay him for his contacts.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That was the last time I heard of any sort
of business venture with Prince Andrew.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What will he do now?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
For the royal family's sake, He'll disappear to Sandering him,
He'll live on in one of the homes on the
estate and we'll never hear or see from him again.
I'm under the impression that Fergie will write a book.
I don't know what is left to say. And I also,
you know, I think that we'll be promised a lot,
(18:50):
but she won't deliver a lot because I don't think
she wants to jeopardize the future for her daughters, who
King Charles does love, Beatrice and Eugenie, the princesses who
still have their titles. So I mean, the best case
scenario would be that Andrew would just up and disappear.
And I always like feel obligated to say. He says
he's innocent of everything. It's a little odd that he
(19:10):
would pay somebody twelve million pounds that he never met,
or would allow his mother.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
To cut that check.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But it truly is in the court of public opinion
guilt by association when it comes to some of those emails,
and when it comes to the photographs of him and
Jeffrey Epstein walking around Central Park. I just think he
needs to go away because people resent the site of him.
But like you said, he's not always He's not ever
been known as a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He's not ever really been known as post randy Andy.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
When he came back from the Falklands, you know, he
developed a pretty bad reputation for being rude to staff,
rude to people, and being an ungrateful, arrogant man.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, Charles sort of has a reputation for being a
little bit arrogant or very arrogant, and maybe not rude,
but very arrogant and kind of like unaware of the
people around him, which I've heard that he is. You know,
he's very demanding, he wants things a certain way, like
he has a very different personality from his mother from
what I understand, and William is a little bit more
(20:17):
like his grandmother. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I think William, when it comes to wanting things, his
way is very much like his father, which is sometimes
why they clash. I mean, a post cancer King Charles
is a much different Charles than I think Americans are
familiar with, and we are for some reason, we love
Princess Diana over here. I mean, I'm not saying that
(20:40):
there's anything wrong with that. I love Diana. That's how
I launched my royal career covering Diana. So I love
Diana too. But I do think that we fixate on
the Diana years of the king's life. And I mean
I met him three weeks ago and he was incredibly
gentle and so and worried about what we were saying
(21:02):
in the States, and I was.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like, don't worry, we love you. But yeah, I understand
what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It is hard to not associate him with the rejection
and pain and devastation of the Diana divorce, and in
fixating on that, I think that it's harder to sympathize
with him and think that he might be a softer character.
But I do think that he's softened over the years
(21:30):
and that the cancer has really affected his outlook on life.
And part of the reason why I don't think he
handled Prince Andrew as soon as he should have or Andrew,
I should say my Batten Windsor as soon as he
should have, was because a I've always heard that he
promised Queen Elizabeth that he would take care of his brother,
that she was worried about that, and be he does
(21:54):
not like drama, he does not like confrontation.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a two Dixon podcast. If I have the story correct,
he didn't really want to marry Diana, he would have gone.
He really loved Camilla always right, He.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Did love Camilla, but Camilla ran off and married Andrew
Parker Bowles, who was a playboy. I mean Camilla should
have known she was setting herself up for disappointment because.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Why was it because she couldn't marry him? Was there
some rule or what was then.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
He went off.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
He went off to serve I believe he was going
to expect it to be away.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
For three years.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And Andrew Parker Bowles was around. Andrew Parker Bowles, who
also dated King Charles's sister Princess Anne, and everybody was
in love with Andrew Parker Bulls and Andrew Parker Bowles
looked at Camilla a coup, and Camilla was like, I'm
going to secure that because he's so handsome and everybody's
crazy about him. She you know, her great great her
(22:57):
great grandmother was King Charles great great grandfather's mistress. So
the reality was, what are the odds that you are
going to get to marry that guy When you have
that kind of family history.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It's a little incestuous feeling.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And so I don't think she ever really saw herself
as a legitimate option for him. You know, Diana had
to prove that she was a virgin before she married
King Charles. There were such severe expectations still at the time,
and yees, so King Charles he'd seen Diana I think
(23:33):
three times before the family had decided she would make
a good bride, and Prince Philip had cornered him at
one point. There's this rumor, I mean, they were headlines
at the time that they assumed Diana was seen getting
on a train with King Charles, and so there were
(23:54):
all these overnight which was a scandal. So there were
all these headlines about was Diana the blow on the
train with King Charles at the time, and Prince Philip
corners him, knowing that it wasn't Diana on the train
with him and says, you're ruining this girl's reputation. You
know you have to you either pursue her and we
lock this down, or you let her go because she's
(24:16):
going to be you know, brand wise, I don't reputationally,
we're damaging her reputation by allowing some of these headlines
to exist. And so I do think that Prince Charles
at the time felt pressure to marry her when his
heart really wasn't into it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Interesting so with the future of the royal family, with
William looking at titles differently and knowing what happened with
his own brother, some of the royals in other countries
have decided not to bestow titles upon their own children
and just at I guess pass it on once they
(24:56):
are of age. But what happens with his kids. Does
he do they all continue to keep their titles once
he's king or does he say, well, I don't want
the drama I had with my own brother.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Well, you know, Princess Anne did not give her children titles.
Zara and Philip they don't have titles, and Prince Andrew
demanded that Princess Beatrice and Eugenie have titles. So Prince
Edward's children don't utilize theirs. So I do think him, Yeah,
it's because he's so sane, it's because he's so normal.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
But no scandal, you just fall out of the public
eye exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
So I think that it will be a case by
case basis. Obviously they are preparing. Prince George is the heir,
you know, we just recently saw him at Royal Albert
Hall with his mother, attend a Remembrance Day event with
his mother for veterans, and he was there in replacement
(25:55):
of his father who was late coming home from Rio
for the Earthshot Prize. So I do think that it's
obvious to us that they are quietly preparing Prince George.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But I don't know what the expectations will be.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I know that they specifically don't utilize the word spare
about their children, which you know Harry complains about it,
but that.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Was Diana's doing.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Diana would be like I gave him the air and
the spare talking about how much she'd sacrifice for that relationship,
and so I know that they don't like to do
that to their own children. William and Catherine, they don't
utilize that type of language because they want to make
sure that nobody feels unworthy.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Is it true that they are actually truly a close
knit family. I read that he starts work at ten
in the morning and he's done by four so that
he can spend time with the family.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, it is true, and I feel bad for him
because he's criticized a lot for it within the house,
within the royal palaces, within the other households, because you know,
William and Catherine have their own household, and King Charles
and Queen Camilla have their own household, and it does
irritate some of the courtiers that William wants to be
(27:14):
home and be with his babies and prioritize his family.
But I think just watching William's children versus watching William
as a child, you can tell that his children are
in a loving home with two parents that are completely committed.
Even when Prince Louis is acting out and you're seeing
(27:34):
the Princess of Wales try to settle him down care
embarrassing guess which she never says, but you when you
see them, you know, interacting with each other and he's
acting out, you can tell that he's a loved little
boy and he's a free spirit because he has the
opportunity to be at home.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And yeah, I do believe.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, I've been in I can't tell you how
many times I've been so excited because I'm going to
see William and he's had to cancel because something's come
up at home, and you know, that's where he wants
to be. And even though I'm heartbroken, I understand and
I really admire that because if you do believe Diana
her true story, she does say that Charles spent a
(28:15):
lot of time away from them, and even in Harry's
spare he says something similar. So I think it's great
that those kids are around their mother and father so often.
And also I wish they'd give that family a break,
because you know, William was incredibly traumatized at the thought
of losing his wife so young and having to raise
(28:36):
those children on his own. That was a horrible experience
for them. And yeah, I think he's, you know, celebrating
every day he.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Has with her.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Does he ever publicly talk about his relationship with his father.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He doesn't talk about their relationship, but he does quite
often credit his father for his you know, pursuits, his interests.
We used to make fun of King Charles for talking
to plants, and now everything he said environmentally is trendy
today and something that you know, people with the real
(29:13):
credentials are saying, we need to take seriously when it
comes to that type of pursuit, when it comes to
being an environmentalist or how we can leave the earth
better than we found it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
So he does talk a lot about how his.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Father inspired some of his biggest royal initiatives, like the
Earth Shot Prize.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You mentioned that Diana's interview affected her relationship with William.
How has that affected him as a leader and as
a family man and even his I imagine that that's kind
of like going through that trauma all over again with
his own brother.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, it's my understanding that right before the Panorama interview
where Diana says there were three of us in this marriage,
she admits to her affair with James Hewitt, who was
the boy's writing instructor. I mean, this was all very like,
oh so salacious at the time. Also, it's contradicting so
(30:17):
much work that the Palace had put into killing some
of these stories on her behalf and on behalf of
her children so they wouldn't be embarrassed by some of
these things. It's my understanding that Williams, the head of
William's school, found out about the interview and asked Diana
to please come out and talk to William and warn
him about it before it aired, And so she did
(30:41):
and tried to.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Make it out like it wasn't going to be that
big of a deal.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And I don't know how many people know this, but
it's my understanding that William watched the interview and in
somebody in leadership's office at Eton, and when they came
back at the end, he was in tears.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
He was so worked up over it.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, it is humiliating your mom is airing the
family's dirty laundry, and so how does it affect you know?
I do think that he goes out of his way
to protect his family.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
There's a viral video of a photographer.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Following them when they're all on bicycles, you know, out
in the middle of nowhere, just riding bikes as a family,
and William gets in his face and says, you're not
going to record my family, get out of here. He's
incredibly protective of his family, and we rarely rarely see
those moments where people photographers do violate the family's privacy,
(31:40):
which I think is important to mention because Harry and
Megan act like that's why they had.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
To flee flee the UK.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
But I think that it probably did feel like an
unbelievable violation when Prince Harry started doing things that were
very similar. And I think it's incredibly unfair for Megan
mark Well to dress his Diana Diana and cosplay is Diana.
For Prince William to have to see that in the press,
(32:06):
that has to be very unsettling.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah. I think that's the thing that has haunted all
of us, especially here in the United States, where we
feel like, well, we created her and now she is
altering their life so dramatically, And even the stories that
came out, and when I forgot about the race baiting
and how the curtsy that was so humiliating, we watched
(32:32):
someone just Harry, completely humiliated by her, and that was
a moment where I think we all went, oh, this
is this is not a healthy relationship. This is not okay.
And I think we've given him a lot of grace
for the book. But he chose and he knew what
he was doing, and I think that grace can only
go so far, especially if you're the family. But I
(32:53):
could talk to you about this forever. We didn't even
get to her acting and going back to that and
what that means for Harry.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But what that means not a lot.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Okay, Good luck Meghan.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean really, I don't know who watches her show
as it I'm like, who watches this again?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
To watch this?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yes? Yes, absolutely, I don't know. I guess they're getting
paid for it, and it seems like they'll do anything
to get paid. So I feel like that's just the
measure of whether or not we're watching Harry and Meghan.
Are they getting paid for it? So, but you gave
us great insight into the royal family today. Thank you
so much for being on the show today.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Where can people follow you so they can keep up
on the Royal family?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Oh, come get the best gossip at Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered
on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts awesome?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Thank you so much and thank you all for joining
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Same. If you want to watch
it again, you go to iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
you can watch it on Rumble or YouTube at tutor
Dixon and join us next time. Have a blessed day.
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