October 2, 2024 • 33 mins
Tudor, Kyle, and Sara provide a detailed analysis of the Vice Presidential debate. They discuss the performance of the candidates, the role of the moderators, and the overall dynamics of the debate. The conversation highlights JD Vance's strong performance against Tim Walz, the perceived bias of the CBS News moderators, and the importance of personal stories in political discourse. The team also discusses the implications of the debate for the upcoming election and the broader political landscape. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are actually recording
this right after the vice presidential debate, so we are
a little bit tired, but we wanted to get right
to it. So I have Kyle Olsen with me and
Sarah Broadwater, and I just want to jump in and say, well,
what did you think of those moderators? They were so
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non biased and non fact checking. I just love how
they were like, we're not fact checking. And then they
would look at Tim Walls like with a wink wink,
and they'd be like, do you want to ask jd Vance?
You want to ask the senator about this? This? And this?
Come on?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, and then when he challenged when jd Vance challenged
them for supposedly fact checking him, then he was criticized
for that. It was again it was another three on
one with the moderators, you know, ganging up, and but
it was I thought it was a I thought it
was a very good debate. I thought it was respect
(01:00):
They disagreed with each other, but it was respectful. There
were not personal attacks even against the two, you know,
because their job is to attack the top of the ticket.
On the other side, there was there were criticisms, but
it was not you know, little snipes and all of that.
I thought it was very good.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I think it was like really a throwback to debates
when we were younger, you know, we look at debates
between presidential candidates of the past. That's what tonight felt like.
And I mean tonight felt to me like a presidential debate.
It wasn't so much of vice presidential debate. And I
give credit to jd Vance for that, because here's a
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forty year old guy who went in there and he
was up against it. I mean, I'm not joking when
I say I think the moderators were sneaky with the
way that they turned against him, and they twisted the
facts and they twisted the questions, and then they went
back to walls and they were like, Okay, this is dude, Hey,
here you go. We're going to help you out. This
is what you want to ask now. And he handled
(02:01):
it in stride. I mean, he was just like, okay,
you throw whatever you want at me. I've got this.
And I think that it really does go to his history,
his background. His background is such that he's lived through
so much. He's lived through life struggles, he's lived through
the bullying, of being a kid that was less fortunate,
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and then going through Yale as a kid who probably
felt really out of place there because of the way
he'd grown up with a mom who had been addicted
to drugs, and just the overall struggles of his life.
I mean, God really prepared him for this moment, and
I just felt like you could really see that shining through.
I think it also shows how many at bats he's
had the last however, many months when he was actually
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doing media and Tim Walls and Kamala Harris have done nothing.
I mean, He's done like over fifty interviews in the
last month, probably alone. Tim Walls, I think has done two.
I wonder though, if this is probably the only debate
where someone has referred to themselves as a knuckle.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There was strange, and there was some sort of awkward.
He was just a little awkward, especially at the beginning.
He probably was nervous, but it was just Walls mean Walls. Yeah,
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
In the preview this morning, when they were setting expectations
his own team, Walls's team said he was nervous, and
I was like, that's kind of a weird expectations setting.
But I guess it was real. I thought he was
going to come out like when they said that, I
thought that was they were trying to spoof us, and
he would come out with like a shimmery jacket on
a tap dance up to the podium and then be
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like on it, you know, But he wasn't on it.
I mean he really was. He really came off nervous,
and then when they asked him questions that he didn't
know how to answer, he could see he freaked out.
Instead of just you know, pivoting or going to something else,
he really panicked about it. And that's how he ended
up with the knucklehead answer about Tanneman Square and saying
that he was there and he truly wasn't there, instead
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of actually really answering to that. Though he fumbled around
that answer for a very long time. It's very uncomfortable,
and he didn't actually respond to it by saying, you know,
I screw things up and I am a knucklehead and
I got that wrong. He went through this meandering chatter
about all different things about how he taught there and
(04:20):
how he thought Donald Trump should go there, and then
suddenly he was like an I'm a nucklehemmer and then
I was like, what did he just say? And I
realized that was his meandering way of saying, yeah, I lied.
I think that was campaign malpractice that they didn't have
an answer for that, though you knew that was going
to be I mean, that story was all over today.
What is it? I mean, the answer is not two minutes.
(04:41):
It's the answer is not I'm a knuckleheader. Well no,
that's true. Yeah that's true, but maybe it is. Maybe
that's the whole actually is the answer. I thought it
was interesting because he talked about One thing Walls talked
about was the veteran home loan, and he was talking
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about how Kamala Harris wants to give this twenty five
thousand dollars down payment to everybody, and he talked about
how you know, when you get a veteran home loan,
you don't have a down payment and how great it is.
And I thought, so, aren't you kind of ticked off
if you're a veteran and you're being told that anybody's
going to get the same treatment you got, because this
is they get this because they give up their lives,
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they go out and serve for us, and they don't
know if they're coming home. They don't know if they'll
ever cash in on that home loan because they don't
know that they're coming home. And I just think it's
really kind of shortsighted to even bring that up when
you're talking about, Hey, I got it because I served,
and I think everybody should get it. Well, why what's
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the incentive to serve that if you're treated to differently
than everybody else?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, and not just that, but if everyone is getting it,
then it's for you know, entry level homes and first
time buyers. The price is there just going to go
up twenty five grand, So you're inflating the costs or
the price of house or value of a house, I guess.
(06:10):
And it just does not seem like a very good
policy to me. But that's sort of the typical mo,
isn't it, where Democrats are always wanting to throw more
money at people and create more programs.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I will say one thing that I would have liked
to see JD. Bans do, And this is not really
a criticism, because I do think that he did a
phenomenal job and I think that he will This debate
will be used when they teach debate class to kids
they will look at this and say this was a masterclass.
But one thing I don't know why it didn't happen
(06:44):
with he or Donald Trump, is that neither of them
talked about the people, the women who have been killed
by illegal aliens. And I think that's a powerful story.
I think the Joscelyn Nungrees, and I think that Rachel
Morin's and the lake and Riley's and Ruby Garcias they
deserve to have their names spoken in public like this
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because I think that we hear about it, because we
watch the media that is willing to talk about it.
But the viewers that were watching tonight probably don't know
those names. They probably can't rattle them off. I think
it's the same way that democrats try to personalize abortion, right.
They don't just use statistics, whereas we continuously use statistics
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on the border. You know, however, many kids were lost,
and those are horrible numbers, but you have to put
a name and a face to the story as horrible
at it as it is.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Right, and yet Tim Walls was able to rattle off
the names of the abortion people, but not.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But he couldn't answer whether or not he was willing
to allow abortion up to the moment of birth.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, he was asked about you know, where he draws
the line, and he said, that's not what the bill said.
So he didn't actually articulate his position, which and this
is what happens is the Democrats. And I'm actually surprised
they asked that question because usually they don't even ask it,
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but they actually asked the question because the Democrats are
so good at sort of you know, escaping exactly articulating
exactly what their position is. And he was asked that
and again he didn't answer it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
No. I think it was one of those situations where
he goes back and he says, that's not what the
bill said, and he thought he was done. He's like, okay,
I'm out of this. But JD. Vance, this is another
example of how what a phenomenal job Jade Vance did
because he said, no, Governor, that is what it said,
(08:47):
and he said, that's clearly what the bill said. But
I thought it was interesting that Walls came back and said,
now you're just interpreting that that way, Well, can it
be interpreted that way? Because it can it well be,
And that's the and I think that was exactly JD.
Vance's point, Yes, the bill can be interpreted that way,
and therefore that can then happen. But they're unwilling to
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admit that because they know that's incredibly unpopular, and we
know that when Hillary Clinton was talking about that on
the debate stage, it was very ugly speaking of that.
I was thinking as I was watching them go through
the January sixth stuff, It's like, you know, in twenty twenty,
had Hillary Clinton run again, would they have been accusing
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her of saying she won the election that Donald Trump
was an illegitimate president? And then would they have said
to her, will you give the money back you made
on the books that you wrote about the election being
stolen from you because you should not have personally profited
off of this lie. I can't even imagine it, That's
the thing I'm like, But it would happen on the
other side, Oh, it totally would, But I totally can't
(09:53):
even picture it. The same thing with Stacy Abrams if
she ever runs for governor again or whatever she wants
to do next. I mean, think of all the books
that she has toured around the country on her sob
story of I lost this, I had this election stolen
from me, and that was the terminology that they used,
that it was a stolen eleggen at press and he's
an illegitimate president.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And would they have called her an election denier in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
They need to add her to that little website that
they've created of all of the election deniers. I just
think it's ridiculous because now there's a term that we
use like it's an actual real thing. I mean, people
are allowed to question it, and you know, the rhetoric
that it goes back and forth is going to go
back and forth. There's always going to be somebody that's
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going to go I mean, even when I go around
the state, people go on, I don't think you lost
that election. You know, It's like there are always people
who are going to feel like they want to take
ownership and say, I believe things actually went a different way.
It's not illegal to say that. Let's take a quick
commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast.
(10:58):
The way they pross a cute people on the debate stage, Republicans,
like I said, if Hillary were up there, they would
never say those things to her.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I thought jad Vance brought some good perspective to that.
Because of course they were trying to the moderators, we're
trying to sort of, you know, play it up, and
he said, basically, Donald Trump called on his supporters to
to peacefully protest, and he you know, took his case
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to courts. He lost, but he ended up peacefully transferring
power on January twentieth.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I was that made me very happy that he said that,
because I thought it was something that no one has
ever said, and the media will never say, and they
today will say, you know, he won't if he ever
gets power again, he'll never leave. Well, how do you
explain that he peacefully left on January twentieth and then
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ran again in an election right now? So he clearly
did not hold on to power, right And that's what
bothers me about all this talk about that kind of stuff.
I thought the closing statements were interesting because I watched JD. Vans.
I thought his was very good because he talked about
the cost of things and then he kind of went
(12:18):
through a he kind of prosecuted the case against Harris.
So this has happened. This has happened. This has happened,
and it was very articulate. Tim Walls, I thought was
interesting because the whole debate he would say he would
just make up these things about and he was totally
making up lies. Did you notice about Donald Trump would
have this person at Mara Lago and promised them this,
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like there's no evidence that any of that happened. He
would have big oil at his at Mara a Lago
and tell them they could do anything they wanted, which
I was personally offended by because these guys are not maniacs.
The big oil companies are not animals. They're not just
like Donald, you know what, wave all regulations and let
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us just like drill in the golf and spill it
wherever we want. We just want to be mad men.
You know. It's like, how insulting to some of our biggest,
big you know, executives out there who really do do
a lot to make the cleanest energy possible. And I
think if you look at our oil industry compared to others,
you would find that we have the cleanest oil industry
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in the world. But I just thought, after saying all
these bananas things about like, oh, he's having these rich
people here and rich people there, and he's doing everything
this he is just with Alex Soros, right, but then
he ends I wrote it down so I would get
it right. He ends his speech with We're so proud
to have Dick Cheney, Bernie Sanders, and Taylor Swift all
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supporting us. And I'm like, what an interesting crowd of people,
because like all very wealthy people, and Bernie Sanders can
pretend Blake he's not, but he is very wealthy, much
more wealthy than he is millionaire the average people you know,
like this is this is not a working guy. Taylor Swift.
I mean she's probably even wide brow and butt it
on the toy, like give me a break, And I
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thought she has people to do everything. And Dick Cheney,
this is not like your average American either. So he
goes through this whole thing and I think to myself,
he ends it on these people, like that's how he
ends it, well, like look at us, Taylor Swift with us,
I mean talk about a name drop.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I will say, Dick Cheney clearly is not the average person.
And he's not a normal person because there's only so
many people that you can shoot a judge in the
face and get the judge to apologize to you. So
I he is he is not normal, but it is
it is. It's an interesting time in American history where
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for as much as the Democrats loathed George W. Bush
and Dick Cheney and maybe Dick Cheney Moore than George W. Bush,
I think they hate I think they hate Donald Trump more,
but they hate Donald Trump so much that they are
actually holding up Dick Cheney as an endorsement that they.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Want and begging George W. Bush to weigh in.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So and I thought one of the best things that JD.
Vance said, and I think he said it a couple times,
is that you could be doing all of these things
right now. Kamalins has been in office for three and
a half years. She keeps talking about when they you know,
on day one, she's been there for fourteen hundred days.
Why if all of these things are so critical that
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she wants to do and they're so important and they
have to be done right away, do them.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I was sort of disappointed that he didn't bring up
her role in the Ukraine War. And you know, Jade
Bance has been very vocal about the fact that she
met with Putin a few days beforehand and said that
they would have they would NATO would come around Ukraine
if he invaded, and then you know, then of course
he invaded. But I also thought it was shocking that
he didn't push back more on them as warmongers. However,
(16:10):
I think that the moderators made sure that those questions
were limited or the opportunity for that was very limited.
But look at where we are right now. I mean,
just look at what happened with Israel today. What a disaster.
You have Iran going after them again, and who knows
how this is going to escalate, because you know, you
have Prime Minister NETANYAHUO coming out and saying you're gonna
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regret this. This is a terrible situation. There's no one
to bring peace to this situation. I think it was
interesting you did an article, Kyle about a Yemeni general
who was in Michigan and said, we actually need Donald
Trump back because we'd like to have peace in our region.
I think that's kind of the untold story about the
Middle East. The surrounding countries actually want peace. They don't
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want Iran to have all this power and to continue
to to just spread terror throughout the region. They want
to be known for that. They liked the fact that
Donald Trump kept Iran in order in line. But they're
not talking about the connection to Dick Cheney. They always
used to call Dick Cheney warmonger, remember that, And they
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were like this guy, like he's a terrible person. He
loves war, he loves war. But wait a minute, I mean,
look at what we're doing right now. We're funding a war,
funding a war. We're not negotiating, we're not trying a
diplomatic method of peace. We continuously fund sending bombs over there,
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to the point now where they think it's so cool
that they're sending bombs over there. You got Josh Shapiro
signing the bombs, but I cannot get over the governor
of Pennsylvania signing bombs that will be dropped on people,
on women, on children, on families, on Holmes. I'm like,
what the hell is happening in this country that we have.
The Democrats have gone so far to the war machine
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side that they're putting their names, the personal names on them, like, yay,
we're funding war. I mean there is. And that's the
thing that bothers me. Nobody's talking about the Democrats are
funding war and they're happy about it. Because you don't
sign your name to something unless I mean, it wasn't
like he didn't look like Aeriel. When Ursula was like
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sign here, and she's like, oh, now, what did I do?
My dad? It's going to be so mad, you know.
It was like, yeah, I'll sign it with you a
little man and see certain sweatshirt and little cargo pants.
I mean, what is happening? Well, the Democrats caused the
war and then they're funding it. So it's I mean
it's like a full cyclical thing here. They have created
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the new military industrial complex. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So the clip that you talked about was it was
a Yemeny major general who is in the Presidential Council
and he's doing a tour of America. He was the
You and General Assembly, and then he was in Buffalo,
and then he was in Detroit and Chicago and then
California or Dearborn, not Detroit, and he was making the
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case that with Donald Trump, there was this policy of
firmness and Iran knew where the US stood and was
not going to, you know, play the sorts of games
that they are now. And when he said the name
Donald Trump, the crowd, which is you know, ye many
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people in America started chanting Trump. In Dearborn and this
this is why the Harris campaign is nervous about Michigan.
And but then when he but then he contrasted Trump's
position of firmness with the Biden Harris position of appeasement.
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And he his point was, look at where appeasement has gotten.
You know that the Middle East is basically on fire
and getting worse by the day, and so, you know,
and I was sort of wondering, and I don't know
any about anything about any of this, but I sort
of wonder if Israel's doing what it's doing because they
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anticipate Trump is going to win, and Iran and the
rest of them will not respond if Trump is president,
and so they're sort of getting in, you know, getting
their punches in now because then I think.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
They also know they have over one hundred hostages that
these jerks will not give back. I mean, this is
crazy when you think we're coming up upon a year
now and these people. You see those pictures of that
baby Kafir and he's just trapped there with who knows
if his mother's even alive. I mean, I think if
it were our country, and I think, you know, if
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you were the president of the United States and it's
a nine to eleven. But they took hostages. Man, I'd
never I'd never sleep until I knew those people were
home or or had some you know, finished to that story.
You know that the story of being a hostage was over.
And so I don't blame him. I think it's a
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horrible situation because they will not release the hostages. They
continue to lose people. Israelis continue to lose people. But
at the end of the day, this one hundred percent
goes back to the fact that Iran has so much
darn money because Joe Biden took the the sanctions off
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and Jade Vance did talk about that tonight, and I
was happy that he talked about that, because I think
it is important for people to understand that Donald Trump's
personality that whatever. I know, a lot of people don't
like his personality, but Donald Trump's personality was such that
people knew he meant business. And so when he put
those on, he said, you're not going to touch Israel.
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You're not going to do this, But it wasn't. I
think the key point here is it wasn't just protecting Israel.
It was protecting Gaza too, because Gaza is run by
a terrorist regime. I don't think that the people want
to be under terrorist rule. I don't think that people
want to be in a constant state of war. But
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they have some really bad guys at the helm of
the ship. The leadership there is I mean, they plan terror,
that's what they do. Not feeding them with endless amounts
of money kept those residents there safe. And when I
look at the way it's torn the state apart, our
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state of Michigan apart, you know, for those people out
there who aren't here, it is really tearing people apart
because it's your family members. You know, they've got family
members on both sides. You've got people that have family members.
In Israel, You've got people that have family members, and Gaza.
We have people that have family members in Lebanon, and
it breaks my heart to think that this is happening. Well,
(23:02):
I think your point on Donald Trump and projecting strength.
When I looked at the debate, both the Kamala Trump
debate and then also JD Tonight with Tim Walls, JD
was comfortable, he was strong, and Tim Walls just seemed
totally weak and deferential to whatever the moderators were going
to do, probably because he was taking their he was
looking to them for yeah, but I couldn't see it.
(23:24):
He had this I mean, he looked like Joe Biden
at points actually with that blank stare he gave. But
if I am negotiating something in a room, tim Walls
did not give off any sort of what you notice.
He kept saying like, oh, I don't know the federal
rules because I'm a governor, so I know what it's like.
It's very odd he was a congressman, yes, but I'm
also like, you're running for federal office, so don't you
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think you'd maybe like brush up by this stuff before
you like know the job you're interviewing for. Dude, Like,
I was like, he clearly thinks he's staying the governor.
He's just like, yeah, I don't know that. In halfway through, righty,
I'm like he's like, you know, make sure you guys
still like me in Minnesota. I mean, it was just
very that Timmy was very weird. But I actually appreciated
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the fact that, I mean he had sometimes that weird
blank stare. It was like his way of listening. I
think that if that's how he listened to me, as
his wife would probably be like what shut your mouth
when you're looking at when I'm talking, you know, like
he was just staring like but his mouth was hanging
open a little. But I think he was genuinely listening.
(24:29):
I think so too. It just wasn't like coached for
camera that he needed. It was now, it was not
a good look, but it was a listen I believed.
I believed it. Kamala Harris was rude on the debate stage,
and I just thought the difference was stark, the difference
between the way they interacted to the way Vanson Walls
interacted because although he was the low goofy, I do
(24:52):
think he was genuine and he was paying attention and
he wasn't like, oh, you're an idiot. And they were
very very very very kind to you, like they're both
Midwestern guys. It was a very Midwestern debate, like Midwest
nice through and through, whereas you had California versus New
York obviously with Kamala and Donald Trump. But I did
I actually really liked that and the mics are on.
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I liked that they had back and forth and like jd.
Vance asked him questions and instead of Tim Walls just
like totally writing him off, they actually kind of answered
each other back and forth, which I thought it was nice.
They truly did debate on policy, and they had some
areas where they agreed too, which I just feel like
we haven't seen that in the last three cycles. I mean,
maybe more than that.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But and they may not have agreed on the policy,
but they respected where each other was coming from. And
I personally, I've never really I mean, I've seen sort
of the weird mannerisms and stuff those videos that you know,
as they had been circulating about walls. I personally I
liked him. I think he's a communist sympathizer. I would
(25:57):
never vote for him in a million years, but he
seemed like a decent person.
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for more after this. I think it was a moment
where you could see truly that Republicans and Democrats are
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not so far apart. There are some radical issues out there,
but they were like, Okay, I could meet you halfway here,
I can meet you halfway there. And I just thought
that you have someone in Kamala Harris who wasn't willing
to say that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And well, I think her role, her mission was to
antagonize Trump, to get him to react and be rude
and insulting. That was her mission. Should that be a
president's mission to do something like that?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It was goofy, It was childish, and it seemed very
much like it was it was a way to not
be held accountable for your own actions. And I felt
like that was the most embarrassing display was to see.
You know, we've seen, we've seen, I mean, we saw
Joe Biden. And I really thought that Kamala Harris was
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more embarrassing because Joe Biden I could at least excuse
away and say, I mean, the guy's old, he's obviously
lost some of his marbles, and he's not. I mean,
you know, he had an excuse. She was just a baby,
And I think she was really acting like that because
she knew my gosh, if they actually have to talk
to me, I can't talk about this stuff. And somebody
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who's telling me the other day, they're like, you know,
there are politicians who really get it, like they have
learned everything they can and they and I think Trump
is that person. I think we saw that with Jade
Vance tonight, that they have really studied what the job
is and they can talk about all different things. And
then there are people who do a great three minute
hit on the news, you know, and then past those
(29:24):
three minutes, it's like, you know, you pull a string
on the doll and it says it's thing, and then
it's done. You know, you have to pull the string
to get another talking point out. I think that's Kamala Harris.
I don't think she has a much I don't think
she has much depth. And I don't think Tim Walls
could go into much depth because the campaign in general
general doesn't have much depth. But I think he told
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us a lot about what he felt and what he thought.
I think in the styles you can see that Tim
Walls at least was more inquisitive than Kamala Harris. Like
she to your point, she has her talking points, She's
not going to engage in a back and forth, whereas
Tim Walls actually seemed to moderately open into having the
back and forth, which I'm sure the campaign he's not
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allowed to do that, and he's not allowed to do interviews,
so you don't see any of that, right. I don't
think this debate tonight was about actually learning policy. I
think that there was policy discussed, and I think for
the American people who don't get involved in policy discussions
every day, I think that was probably somewhat of a
treat because I do think it's rare nowadays to see
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politicians truly engage in policy in the way that they did.
I just thought it was kind of a nice throwback
to real debating. But I think it was more about
getting to know these guys. And I think that jd.
Vance did a great job of saying, this is who
I am, this is where I come from. But he
started it out like that, and I was like, oh,
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that's interesting. But it worked. And then Tim Walls was
kind of hiding who he was because there's a lot
of stuff that he didn't want to tell you. You know,
he didn't want to talk about his service, he didn't
want to talk about his dedication to China, and so
I think that at the end of the day, we
got to know that Jade Vance would be a phenomenal
vice president and potentially has the opportunity to do more
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and maybe go on to lead US president one day.
And Tim Walls doesn't fully understand the job he's interviewing for,
but he's got a good smile when he goes out
on the campaign.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Trail and a vigorous wave.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah yeah, great, high kick.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I don't think I've seen that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh I will show you seriously. Yeah, he always he
does the little kick thing. He like holds his hands
up and he does a kick. Oh yeah, normal, don't
give me wrong. Well, all in all, I think, I mean,
I actually I was dreading the long sitting and listening
(31:54):
to the debate because I'm like, oh, gosh, it's going
to be boreding. But it wasn't boring. It was actually
very interesting. I thought it was thought it was great
for all for all of us people who are in
the political world, just like the super Bowl, you know,
and this is like with a playoff game. Watching the
VP debate, you're like, oh, this is like, this is
the moment to hear what they have to say, and
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I thought it was fun. When Kyle and I were
walking in, I said, maybe this makes me a total nerd,
but I like thoroughly was like that was made for
TV for me.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
There's a lot of debates you're counting the minutes until
it's over, and that one it was. I thought it
was pleasant and good.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, well this is our instant take on it. I
mean we literally got finished, well, we finished watching it,
and then for a few seconds we listened to people's commentary.
But then Kyle got very crabby and was like, just
turn it off. We have our own opinion. So you
got to hear fresh true.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Fact check true.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah. I thought we weren't fact checking.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
During this no fact check myself. Actually, I guess that
was you.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well, thank you all for hanging around for our analysis
of the debate. As always, this is the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Thank you and have
a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are actually recording
this right after the vice presidential debate, so we are
a little bit tired, but we wanted to get right
to it. So I have Kyle Olsen with me and
Sarah Broadwater, and I just want to jump in and say, well,
what did you think of those moderators? They were so
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non biased and non fact checking. I just love how
they were like, we're not fact checking. And then they
would look at Tim Walls like with a wink wink,
and they'd be like, do you want to ask jd Vance?
You want to ask the senator about this? This? And this?
Come on?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, and then when he challenged when jd Vance challenged
them for supposedly fact checking him, then he was criticized
for that. It was again it was another three on
one with the moderators, you know, ganging up, and but
it was I thought it was a I thought it
was a very good debate. I thought it was respect
(01:00):
They disagreed with each other, but it was respectful. There
were not personal attacks even against the two, you know,
because their job is to attack the top of the ticket.
On the other side, there was there were criticisms, but
it was not you know, little snipes and all of that.
I thought it was very good.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I think it was like really a throwback to debates
when we were younger, you know, we look at debates
between presidential candidates of the past. That's what tonight felt like.
And I mean tonight felt to me like a presidential debate.
It wasn't so much of vice presidential debate. And I
give credit to jd Vance for that, because here's a
(01:40):
forty year old guy who went in there and he
was up against it. I mean, I'm not joking when
I say I think the moderators were sneaky with the
way that they turned against him, and they twisted the
facts and they twisted the questions, and then they went
back to walls and they were like, Okay, this is dude, Hey,
here you go. We're going to help you out. This
is what you want to ask now. And he handled
(02:01):
it in stride. I mean, he was just like, okay,
you throw whatever you want at me. I've got this.
And I think that it really does go to his history,
his background. His background is such that he's lived through
so much. He's lived through life struggles, he's lived through
the bullying, of being a kid that was less fortunate,
(02:22):
and then going through Yale as a kid who probably
felt really out of place there because of the way
he'd grown up with a mom who had been addicted
to drugs, and just the overall struggles of his life.
I mean, God really prepared him for this moment, and
I just felt like you could really see that shining through.
I think it also shows how many at bats he's
had the last however, many months when he was actually
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doing media and Tim Walls and Kamala Harris have done nothing.
I mean, He's done like over fifty interviews in the
last month, probably alone. Tim Walls, I think has done two.
I wonder though, if this is probably the only debate
where someone has referred to themselves as a knuckle.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There was strange, and there was some sort of awkward.
He was just a little awkward, especially at the beginning.
He probably was nervous, but it was just Walls mean Walls. Yeah,
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
In the preview this morning, when they were setting expectations
his own team, Walls's team said he was nervous, and
I was like, that's kind of a weird expectations setting.
But I guess it was real. I thought he was
going to come out like when they said that, I
thought that was they were trying to spoof us, and
he would come out with like a shimmery jacket on
a tap dance up to the podium and then be
(03:36):
like on it, you know, But he wasn't on it.
I mean he really was. He really came off nervous,
and then when they asked him questions that he didn't
know how to answer, he could see he freaked out.
Instead of just you know, pivoting or going to something else,
he really panicked about it. And that's how he ended
up with the knucklehead answer about Tanneman Square and saying
that he was there and he truly wasn't there, instead
(03:59):
of actually really answering to that. Though he fumbled around
that answer for a very long time. It's very uncomfortable,
and he didn't actually respond to it by saying, you know,
I screw things up and I am a knucklehead and
I got that wrong. He went through this meandering chatter
about all different things about how he taught there and
(04:20):
how he thought Donald Trump should go there, and then
suddenly he was like an I'm a nucklehemmer and then
I was like, what did he just say? And I
realized that was his meandering way of saying, yeah, I lied.
I think that was campaign malpractice that they didn't have
an answer for that, though you knew that was going
to be I mean, that story was all over today.
What is it? I mean, the answer is not two minutes.
(04:41):
It's the answer is not I'm a knuckleheader. Well no,
that's true. Yeah that's true, but maybe it is. Maybe
that's the whole actually is the answer. I thought it
was interesting because he talked about One thing Walls talked
about was the veteran home loan, and he was talking
(05:01):
about how Kamala Harris wants to give this twenty five
thousand dollars down payment to everybody, and he talked about
how you know, when you get a veteran home loan,
you don't have a down payment and how great it is.
And I thought, so, aren't you kind of ticked off
if you're a veteran and you're being told that anybody's
going to get the same treatment you got, because this
is they get this because they give up their lives,
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they go out and serve for us, and they don't
know if they're coming home. They don't know if they'll
ever cash in on that home loan because they don't
know that they're coming home. And I just think it's
really kind of shortsighted to even bring that up when
you're talking about, Hey, I got it because I served,
and I think everybody should get it. Well, why what's
(05:46):
the incentive to serve that if you're treated to differently
than everybody else?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, and not just that, but if everyone is getting it,
then it's for you know, entry level homes and first
time buyers. The price is there just going to go
up twenty five grand, So you're inflating the costs or
the price of house or value of a house, I guess.
(06:10):
And it just does not seem like a very good
policy to me. But that's sort of the typical mo,
isn't it, where Democrats are always wanting to throw more
money at people and create more programs.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I will say one thing that I would have liked
to see JD. Bans do, And this is not really
a criticism, because I do think that he did a
phenomenal job and I think that he will This debate
will be used when they teach debate class to kids
they will look at this and say this was a masterclass.
But one thing I don't know why it didn't happen
(06:44):
with he or Donald Trump, is that neither of them
talked about the people, the women who have been killed
by illegal aliens. And I think that's a powerful story.
I think the Joscelyn Nungrees, and I think that Rachel
Morin's and the lake and Riley's and Ruby Garcias they
deserve to have their names spoken in public like this
(07:06):
because I think that we hear about it, because we
watch the media that is willing to talk about it.
But the viewers that were watching tonight probably don't know
those names. They probably can't rattle them off. I think
it's the same way that democrats try to personalize abortion, right.
They don't just use statistics, whereas we continuously use statistics
(07:27):
on the border. You know, however, many kids were lost,
and those are horrible numbers, but you have to put
a name and a face to the story as horrible
at it as it is.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Right, and yet Tim Walls was able to rattle off
the names of the abortion people, but not.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But he couldn't answer whether or not he was willing
to allow abortion up to the moment of birth.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, he was asked about you know, where he draws
the line, and he said, that's not what the bill said.
So he didn't actually articulate his position, which and this
is what happens is the Democrats. And I'm actually surprised
they asked that question because usually they don't even ask it,
(08:09):
but they actually asked the question because the Democrats are
so good at sort of you know, escaping exactly articulating
exactly what their position is. And he was asked that
and again he didn't answer it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
No. I think it was one of those situations where
he goes back and he says, that's not what the
bill said, and he thought he was done. He's like, okay,
I'm out of this. But JD. Vance, this is another
example of how what a phenomenal job Jade Vance did
because he said, no, Governor, that is what it said,
(08:47):
and he said, that's clearly what the bill said. But
I thought it was interesting that Walls came back and said,
now you're just interpreting that that way, Well, can it
be interpreted that way? Because it can it well be,
And that's the and I think that was exactly JD.
Vance's point, Yes, the bill can be interpreted that way,
and therefore that can then happen. But they're unwilling to
(09:10):
admit that because they know that's incredibly unpopular, and we
know that when Hillary Clinton was talking about that on
the debate stage, it was very ugly speaking of that.
I was thinking as I was watching them go through
the January sixth stuff, It's like, you know, in twenty twenty,
had Hillary Clinton run again, would they have been accusing
(09:31):
her of saying she won the election that Donald Trump
was an illegitimate president? And then would they have said
to her, will you give the money back you made
on the books that you wrote about the election being
stolen from you because you should not have personally profited
off of this lie. I can't even imagine it, That's
the thing I'm like, But it would happen on the
other side, Oh, it totally would, But I totally can't
(09:53):
even picture it. The same thing with Stacy Abrams if
she ever runs for governor again or whatever she wants
to do next. I mean, think of all the books
that she has toured around the country on her sob
story of I lost this, I had this election stolen
from me, and that was the terminology that they used,
that it was a stolen eleggen at press and he's
an illegitimate president.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And would they have called her an election denier in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
They need to add her to that little website that
they've created of all of the election deniers. I just
think it's ridiculous because now there's a term that we
use like it's an actual real thing. I mean, people
are allowed to question it, and you know, the rhetoric
that it goes back and forth is going to go
back and forth. There's always going to be somebody that's
(10:36):
going to go I mean, even when I go around
the state, people go on, I don't think you lost
that election. You know, It's like there are always people
who are going to feel like they want to take
ownership and say, I believe things actually went a different way.
It's not illegal to say that. Let's take a quick
commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast.
(10:58):
The way they pross a cute people on the debate stage, Republicans,
like I said, if Hillary were up there, they would
never say those things to her.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I thought jad Vance brought some good perspective to that.
Because of course they were trying to the moderators, we're
trying to sort of, you know, play it up, and
he said, basically, Donald Trump called on his supporters to
to peacefully protest, and he you know, took his case
(11:29):
to courts. He lost, but he ended up peacefully transferring
power on January twentieth.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I was that made me very happy that he said that,
because I thought it was something that no one has
ever said, and the media will never say, and they
today will say, you know, he won't if he ever
gets power again, he'll never leave. Well, how do you
explain that he peacefully left on January twentieth and then
(11:57):
ran again in an election right now? So he clearly
did not hold on to power, right And that's what
bothers me about all this talk about that kind of stuff.
I thought the closing statements were interesting because I watched JD. Vans.
I thought his was very good because he talked about
the cost of things and then he kind of went
(12:18):
through a he kind of prosecuted the case against Harris.
So this has happened. This has happened. This has happened,
and it was very articulate. Tim Walls, I thought was
interesting because the whole debate he would say he would
just make up these things about and he was totally
making up lies. Did you notice about Donald Trump would
have this person at Mara Lago and promised them this,
(12:39):
like there's no evidence that any of that happened. He
would have big oil at his at Mara a Lago
and tell them they could do anything they wanted, which
I was personally offended by because these guys are not maniacs.
The big oil companies are not animals. They're not just
like Donald, you know what, wave all regulations and let
(13:02):
us just like drill in the golf and spill it
wherever we want. We just want to be mad men.
You know. It's like, how insulting to some of our biggest,
big you know, executives out there who really do do
a lot to make the cleanest energy possible. And I
think if you look at our oil industry compared to others,
you would find that we have the cleanest oil industry
(13:25):
in the world. But I just thought, after saying all
these bananas things about like, oh, he's having these rich
people here and rich people there, and he's doing everything
this he is just with Alex Soros, right, but then
he ends I wrote it down so I would get
it right. He ends his speech with We're so proud
to have Dick Cheney, Bernie Sanders, and Taylor Swift all
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supporting us. And I'm like, what an interesting crowd of people,
because like all very wealthy people, and Bernie Sanders can
pretend Blake he's not, but he is very wealthy, much
more wealthy than he is millionaire the average people you know,
like this is this is not a working guy. Taylor Swift.
I mean she's probably even wide brow and butt it
on the toy, like give me a break, And I
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thought she has people to do everything. And Dick Cheney,
this is not like your average American either. So he
goes through this whole thing and I think to myself,
he ends it on these people, like that's how he
ends it, well, like look at us, Taylor Swift with us,
I mean talk about a name drop.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I will say, Dick Cheney clearly is not the average person.
And he's not a normal person because there's only so
many people that you can shoot a judge in the
face and get the judge to apologize to you. So
I he is he is not normal, but it is
it is. It's an interesting time in American history where
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for as much as the Democrats loathed George W. Bush
and Dick Cheney and maybe Dick Cheney Moore than George W. Bush,
I think they hate I think they hate Donald Trump more,
but they hate Donald Trump so much that they are
actually holding up Dick Cheney as an endorsement that they.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Want and begging George W. Bush to weigh in.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So and I thought one of the best things that JD.
Vance said, and I think he said it a couple times,
is that you could be doing all of these things
right now. Kamalins has been in office for three and
a half years. She keeps talking about when they you know,
on day one, she's been there for fourteen hundred days.
Why if all of these things are so critical that
(15:42):
she wants to do and they're so important and they
have to be done right away, do them.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I was sort of disappointed that he didn't bring up
her role in the Ukraine War. And you know, Jade
Bance has been very vocal about the fact that she
met with Putin a few days beforehand and said that
they would have they would NATO would come around Ukraine
if he invaded, and then you know, then of course
he invaded. But I also thought it was shocking that
he didn't push back more on them as warmongers. However,
(16:10):
I think that the moderators made sure that those questions
were limited or the opportunity for that was very limited.
But look at where we are right now. I mean,
just look at what happened with Israel today. What a disaster.
You have Iran going after them again, and who knows
how this is going to escalate, because you know, you
have Prime Minister NETANYAHUO coming out and saying you're gonna
(16:33):
regret this. This is a terrible situation. There's no one
to bring peace to this situation. I think it was
interesting you did an article, Kyle about a Yemeni general
who was in Michigan and said, we actually need Donald
Trump back because we'd like to have peace in our region.
I think that's kind of the untold story about the
Middle East. The surrounding countries actually want peace. They don't
(16:56):
want Iran to have all this power and to continue
to to just spread terror throughout the region. They want
to be known for that. They liked the fact that
Donald Trump kept Iran in order in line. But they're
not talking about the connection to Dick Cheney. They always
used to call Dick Cheney warmonger, remember that, And they
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were like this guy, like he's a terrible person. He
loves war, he loves war. But wait a minute, I mean,
look at what we're doing right now. We're funding a war,
funding a war. We're not negotiating, we're not trying a
diplomatic method of peace. We continuously fund sending bombs over there,
(17:38):
to the point now where they think it's so cool
that they're sending bombs over there. You got Josh Shapiro
signing the bombs, but I cannot get over the governor
of Pennsylvania signing bombs that will be dropped on people,
on women, on children, on families, on Holmes. I'm like,
what the hell is happening in this country that we have.
The Democrats have gone so far to the war machine
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side that they're putting their names, the personal names on them, like, yay,
we're funding war. I mean there is. And that's the
thing that bothers me. Nobody's talking about the Democrats are
funding war and they're happy about it. Because you don't
sign your name to something unless I mean, it wasn't
like he didn't look like Aeriel. When Ursula was like
(18:23):
sign here, and she's like, oh, now, what did I do?
My dad? It's going to be so mad, you know.
It was like, yeah, I'll sign it with you a
little man and see certain sweatshirt and little cargo pants.
I mean, what is happening? Well, the Democrats caused the
war and then they're funding it. So it's I mean
it's like a full cyclical thing here. They have created
(18:44):
the new military industrial complex. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So the clip that you talked about was it was
a Yemeny major general who is in the Presidential Council
and he's doing a tour of America. He was the
You and General Assembly, and then he was in Buffalo,
and then he was in Detroit and Chicago and then
California or Dearborn, not Detroit, and he was making the
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case that with Donald Trump, there was this policy of
firmness and Iran knew where the US stood and was
not going to, you know, play the sorts of games
that they are now. And when he said the name
Donald Trump, the crowd, which is you know, ye many
(19:33):
people in America started chanting Trump. In Dearborn and this
this is why the Harris campaign is nervous about Michigan.
And but then when he but then he contrasted Trump's
position of firmness with the Biden Harris position of appeasement.
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And he his point was, look at where appeasement has gotten.
You know that the Middle East is basically on fire
and getting worse by the day, and so, you know,
and I was sort of wondering, and I don't know
any about anything about any of this, but I sort
of wonder if Israel's doing what it's doing because they
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anticipate Trump is going to win, and Iran and the
rest of them will not respond if Trump is president,
and so they're sort of getting in, you know, getting
their punches in now because then I think.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
They also know they have over one hundred hostages that
these jerks will not give back. I mean, this is
crazy when you think we're coming up upon a year
now and these people. You see those pictures of that
baby Kafir and he's just trapped there with who knows
if his mother's even alive. I mean, I think if
it were our country, and I think, you know, if
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you were the president of the United States and it's
a nine to eleven. But they took hostages. Man, I'd
never I'd never sleep until I knew those people were
home or or had some you know, finished to that story.
You know that the story of being a hostage was over.
And so I don't blame him. I think it's a
(21:14):
horrible situation because they will not release the hostages. They
continue to lose people. Israelis continue to lose people. But
at the end of the day, this one hundred percent
goes back to the fact that Iran has so much
darn money because Joe Biden took the the sanctions off
(21:35):
and Jade Vance did talk about that tonight, and I
was happy that he talked about that, because I think
it is important for people to understand that Donald Trump's
personality that whatever. I know, a lot of people don't
like his personality, but Donald Trump's personality was such that
people knew he meant business. And so when he put
those on, he said, you're not going to touch Israel.
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You're not going to do this, But it wasn't. I
think the key point here is it wasn't just protecting Israel.
It was protecting Gaza too, because Gaza is run by
a terrorist regime. I don't think that the people want
to be under terrorist rule. I don't think that people
want to be in a constant state of war. But
(22:18):
they have some really bad guys at the helm of
the ship. The leadership there is I mean, they plan terror,
that's what they do. Not feeding them with endless amounts
of money kept those residents there safe. And when I
look at the way it's torn the state apart, our
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state of Michigan apart, you know, for those people out
there who aren't here, it is really tearing people apart
because it's your family members. You know, they've got family
members on both sides. You've got people that have family members.
In Israel, You've got people that have family members, and Gaza.
We have people that have family members in Lebanon, and
it breaks my heart to think that this is happening. Well,
(23:02):
I think your point on Donald Trump and projecting strength.
When I looked at the debate, both the Kamala Trump
debate and then also JD Tonight with Tim Walls, JD
was comfortable, he was strong, and Tim Walls just seemed
totally weak and deferential to whatever the moderators were going
to do, probably because he was taking their he was
looking to them for yeah, but I couldn't see it.
(23:24):
He had this I mean, he looked like Joe Biden
at points actually with that blank stare he gave. But
if I am negotiating something in a room, tim Walls
did not give off any sort of what you notice.
He kept saying like, oh, I don't know the federal
rules because I'm a governor, so I know what it's like.
It's very odd he was a congressman, yes, but I'm
also like, you're running for federal office, so don't you
(23:45):
think you'd maybe like brush up by this stuff before
you like know the job you're interviewing for. Dude, Like,
I was like, he clearly thinks he's staying the governor.
He's just like, yeah, I don't know that. In halfway through, righty,
I'm like he's like, you know, make sure you guys
still like me in Minnesota. I mean, it was just
very that Timmy was very weird. But I actually appreciated
(24:07):
the fact that, I mean he had sometimes that weird
blank stare. It was like his way of listening. I
think that if that's how he listened to me, as
his wife would probably be like what shut your mouth
when you're looking at when I'm talking, you know, like
he was just staring like but his mouth was hanging
open a little. But I think he was genuinely listening.
(24:29):
I think so too. It just wasn't like coached for
camera that he needed. It was now, it was not
a good look, but it was a listen I believed.
I believed it. Kamala Harris was rude on the debate stage,
and I just thought the difference was stark, the difference
between the way they interacted to the way Vanson Walls
interacted because although he was the low goofy, I do
(24:52):
think he was genuine and he was paying attention and
he wasn't like, oh, you're an idiot. And they were
very very very very kind to you, like they're both
Midwestern guys. It was a very Midwestern debate, like Midwest
nice through and through, whereas you had California versus New
York obviously with Kamala and Donald Trump. But I did
I actually really liked that and the mics are on.
(25:14):
I liked that they had back and forth and like jd.
Vance asked him questions and instead of Tim Walls just
like totally writing him off, they actually kind of answered
each other back and forth, which I thought it was nice.
They truly did debate on policy, and they had some
areas where they agreed too, which I just feel like
we haven't seen that in the last three cycles. I mean,
maybe more than that.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But and they may not have agreed on the policy,
but they respected where each other was coming from. And
I personally, I've never really I mean, I've seen sort
of the weird mannerisms and stuff those videos that you know,
as they had been circulating about walls. I personally I
liked him. I think he's a communist sympathizer. I would
(25:57):
never vote for him in a million years, but he
seemed like a decent person.
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for more after this. I think it was a moment
where you could see truly that Republicans and Democrats are
(27:47):
not so far apart. There are some radical issues out there,
but they were like, Okay, I could meet you halfway here,
I can meet you halfway there. And I just thought
that you have someone in Kamala Harris who wasn't willing
to say that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And well, I think her role, her mission was to
antagonize Trump, to get him to react and be rude
and insulting. That was her mission. Should that be a
president's mission to do something like that?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It was goofy, It was childish, and it seemed very
much like it was it was a way to not
be held accountable for your own actions. And I felt
like that was the most embarrassing display was to see.
You know, we've seen, we've seen, I mean, we saw
Joe Biden. And I really thought that Kamala Harris was
(28:40):
more embarrassing because Joe Biden I could at least excuse
away and say, I mean, the guy's old, he's obviously
lost some of his marbles, and he's not. I mean,
you know, he had an excuse. She was just a baby,
And I think she was really acting like that because
she knew my gosh, if they actually have to talk
to me, I can't talk about this stuff. And somebody
(29:01):
who's telling me the other day, they're like, you know,
there are politicians who really get it, like they have
learned everything they can and they and I think Trump
is that person. I think we saw that with Jade
Vance tonight, that they have really studied what the job
is and they can talk about all different things. And
then there are people who do a great three minute
hit on the news, you know, and then past those
(29:24):
three minutes, it's like, you know, you pull a string
on the doll and it says it's thing, and then
it's done. You know, you have to pull the string
to get another talking point out. I think that's Kamala Harris.
I don't think she has a much I don't think
she has much depth. And I don't think Tim Walls
could go into much depth because the campaign in general
general doesn't have much depth. But I think he told
(29:45):
us a lot about what he felt and what he thought.
I think in the styles you can see that Tim
Walls at least was more inquisitive than Kamala Harris. Like
she to your point, she has her talking points, She's
not going to engage in a back and forth, whereas
Tim Walls actually seemed to moderately open into having the
back and forth, which I'm sure the campaign he's not
(30:06):
allowed to do that, and he's not allowed to do interviews,
so you don't see any of that, right. I don't
think this debate tonight was about actually learning policy. I
think that there was policy discussed, and I think for
the American people who don't get involved in policy discussions
every day, I think that was probably somewhat of a
treat because I do think it's rare nowadays to see
(30:26):
politicians truly engage in policy in the way that they did.
I just thought it was kind of a nice throwback
to real debating. But I think it was more about
getting to know these guys. And I think that jd.
Vance did a great job of saying, this is who
I am, this is where I come from. But he
started it out like that, and I was like, oh,
(30:49):
that's interesting. But it worked. And then Tim Walls was
kind of hiding who he was because there's a lot
of stuff that he didn't want to tell you. You know,
he didn't want to talk about his service, he didn't
want to talk about his dedication to China, and so
I think that at the end of the day, we
got to know that Jade Vance would be a phenomenal
vice president and potentially has the opportunity to do more
(31:13):
and maybe go on to lead US president one day.
And Tim Walls doesn't fully understand the job he's interviewing for,
but he's got a good smile when he goes out
on the campaign.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Trail and a vigorous wave.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah yeah, great, high kick.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I don't think I've seen that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh I will show you seriously. Yeah, he always he
does the little kick thing. He like holds his hands
up and he does a kick. Oh yeah, normal, don't
give me wrong. Well, all in all, I think, I mean,
I actually I was dreading the long sitting and listening
(31:54):
to the debate because I'm like, oh, gosh, it's going
to be boreding. But it wasn't boring. It was actually
very interesting. I thought it was thought it was great
for all for all of us people who are in
the political world, just like the super Bowl, you know,
and this is like with a playoff game. Watching the
VP debate, you're like, oh, this is like, this is
the moment to hear what they have to say, and
(32:15):
I thought it was fun. When Kyle and I were
walking in, I said, maybe this makes me a total nerd,
but I like thoroughly was like that was made for
TV for me.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
There's a lot of debates you're counting the minutes until
it's over, and that one it was. I thought it
was pleasant and good.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, well this is our instant take on it. I
mean we literally got finished, well, we finished watching it,
and then for a few seconds we listened to people's commentary.
But then Kyle got very crabby and was like, just
turn it off. We have our own opinion. So you
got to hear fresh true.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Fact check true.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah. I thought we weren't fact checking.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
During this no fact check myself. Actually, I guess that
was you.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well, thank you all for hanging around for our analysis
of the debate. As always, this is the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you find your podcast and join in next
time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Thank you and have
a blessed day.
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