November 17, 2025 • 31 mins
In this episode of the Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor & Kyle Olson explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping everyday life—from the rise of AI-generated music to the rapid expansion of data centers across America. They break down the growing environmental concerns surrounding AI’s energy demands, water use, and community impact, while also examining how technology may be changing the way people form relationships in an increasingly digital world. The conversation also digs into the media’s influence on public perception of AI and the risks of relying on tech-driven narratives for information. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we are going
to do a deep dive into AI. I started looking
into AI like the earlier this week, because all of
a sudden, these songs hit the top of the billboard
chart and they were all AI, and I was like,
this is not cool. This seems off. I don't think
I like this. And then I started to see these
actors battling over whether or not they should hire AI actors,
(00:22):
and I was like talking to Kyle Olson about it,
and I said, I don't really like this, and he
had some alternative arguments for that. So I thought, come
on the podcast and let's talk about this. But then
I got a little deeper into it because I'm like,
all right now I have to really research this, and
I found out that there's something even more disturbing about AI.
(00:42):
It's like, all of a sudden, there's this change of
narrative from the left, which I find very interesting. You've
probably noticed that the left is not really talking about
climate change right now. Bill Gates even recently said that
climate change will not be the end of civilization, and
I was like, I thought the climate change was the end,
(01:04):
And then I would started thinking about it and I'm like,
you know, Greta who was lecturing us all for years
about climate change, she suddenly jumped off the climate change
boat and jumped onto the Gaza boat, like literally jumped
onto the Gaza.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Boat, right right, that's right?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
How dare you Greta? Anyway, everybody's off of this climate
change narrative, and I think it's because of Ai. What
do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, I think, well, there's a lot there first, these songs. Well,
I guess the question is what do you want to
talk about songs? Because here's my opinion about it. If
it's a song you like, like, if that's your style
of music or whatever. Because there's there's this song that
is it's a country song that was the most downloaded
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song last week. But it's completely I mean, it's fake,
I know, but.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I feel like there is this is taking away. I
don't know how it works. It's like some guy creates
this fake song. So is then he the artist? Is
he not? Is it not fake? Is he just making
up the words and then having AI put a voice
in lyrics to it? Because I guess to a certain extent,
(02:17):
I guess that's a different type of art. But then
what happens when you are a real artist competing against
that and you are in this zone where people can
use computers and everything to make it sound I mean,
you can make it sound perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And then sure, well they've been they've been using what's
it called voice?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh yeah, I don't like that auto tune?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Auto tune, they've been using that. And then you had
Milli Vanillilli.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They got busted.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Nobody think about think about what an outrage that was.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It was totally I'm do you remember because we're so
people were so mad about that, and because they were
they were essentially the original AI to company mission about it,
because they were fake artists and they were using someone,
but they were using someone's actual voice. This is like,
that's what freaks me out. It's not even someone's actual voice,
(03:18):
it's just this AI voice. So that's anyway, that's what
led me into this. But I do I want to
get into this other thing because I think that people
don't understand how AI works. Because I didn't understand this
until I started to look at like, oh, what does
it take to make one of these AI songs? Not
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because I was not because I was plenty on doing it,
just looking at this and we have at the same time,
we kind of have like this clash of this AI
stuff going on, and data centers are coming into states
across the country. So you may be in a state
that's getting a data center. We are in a state
that's getting a data center or were they're trying the
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data center. People in this town that are getting this
data center, they're freaked out about it because it's five
hundred and seventy five acres. That's a massive amount of space,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And it's a it's farmland, it's real. It's a rural community.
They don't see five hundred and seventy five acre, you know,
plants being built. And so they're saying, we want to
keep our community rural. We like living in farmland, we
(04:34):
like you know, farming, and this is how this is
how we want our township to be. And so then
this is really sort of the conflict, and I I
could see it's these sorts of projects are interesting if
there is if it makes sense, and is there a
way to reuse industrial land or land that you know
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that's vacant or is.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So you and I differ here. Kyle and I differ
on this because he is like a I guess you
want to keep all of the agricultural land natural and
never build and never expand into those agricultural lands with manufacturing.
And I understand why some of our manufacturers don't want
(05:20):
to go to the old manufacturing sights because they do
have environmental problems that then the state will hold them
accountable for. And I'm not opposed to using some of
our land outside of the major manufacturing hubs to build
manufacturing centers. If you are going to build, like for example,
when forty used to come into a town and build
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a new facility, like they would build a new assembly plant,
it would be ten thousand jobs. They would create a
community around a manufacturing plant like this, And I think
that is the striking difference here you have. And I
don't think they've ever used five hundred and seventy five acres.
I don't know that we've seen a facility that large.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's a lot of property.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I guess my but let me let me finish, because
I think the stark difference here is that this is
maybe four hundred and fifty jobs, maybe four hundred and
fifty jobs. But it's not just that it's only four
hundred and fifty jobs. When you have these these data
centers coming into your town, you have to understand that
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your energy costs are going to go through the roof.
And I will say that I give I never thought
I would say this. I give one of our Democrats
senate candidates credit for calling them out on this. We
obviously have a different opinion of this, but I think
that he said he said something that shocked, kind of
(06:48):
struck you as like, oh, maybe this is the plan,
and struck me as well. I want to play what
he said right now so that you guys can hear
it and then we'll chat about what that means.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It required dt to get to one hundred percent rerulable
energy by twenty forty and you see the consequences of
that right here. But there was one loophole, There was
one poison pill that if energy demand got high enough
that they'd be let out of that requirement. And guess what,
with the advent of a new data center not too
far away from here, there's about to be a spike
in demand that is twenty five percent more than the
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entire energy output that DTE currently does.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So that's pretty shocking.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, when I first saw this, I think I had
a different takeaway than what he was trying to communicate,
because let's take a step back. So what's happening is, well,
multiple things. One, I've been around Michigan politics long enough
to remember when there was this there was this farmland
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preservation movement, and we as a state were spending taxpayer
dollars to buy the development rights of farmland so it
would be developed because the earth the concern was urban sprawl,
having you know, these having houses spread out into farmland.
(08:09):
So and that's what that's what you know, the progressives
and the people who wanted to do this sort of
central planning wanted to that's what that was their their policy.
Now we have these green energy mandates, where we are,
we stand on the precipice of chewing up hundreds of
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hundreds of thousands of acres of farmland, forest land, et cetera,
to put solar panels, to put turbines, to put these
data centers, and they're not they suddenly are not concerned
about chewing up farmland anymore. But then you add on
(08:57):
top of this these sorts of of of data centers
that I know you've got some stats about, you know,
sort of the energy use, the water use, but the
amount of water and energy that these consume. And of
course the problem with putting them in farmland is there's
no infrastructure. There isn't sewer, there isn't city water, etc.
(09:21):
So where is that water going to come from. Well,
it's going to come from the ground.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Right Well, and if you look at our state, for example,
Michigan has some of the highest fresh water concentration in
the entire world, not just the country, in the entire
world because we've got the Great Lakes right here. So
you can see why this is attractive. But I think
what the Senate candidate was saying, which I found interesting,
I don't agree with him that we should I thought
(09:46):
it was actually fabulous that he showed how ugly the
solar farm is, because he's like, oh, we're getting rid
of this. We're going to have to get rid of
these solar farms because we're going to have too much
space taken up with these data centers and we won't
be able to And he was saying that the solar
farms won't come into existence because so in Michigan. But
(10:07):
I think in many states, lefty governors have said we're
going to have this Climate Initiative, which was led by
people like Bill Gates who now say, oh, this is
not an issue interestingly enough, now that they need all
of this energy for AI in Michigan, there's a mandate
in place that you can't. You have to be one
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hundred percent renewable energy by twenty forty. So that's what
that guy was pointing at. He's like, oh my gosh,
we were supposed to be all solar panels and wind turbines,
and now we're not going to be because in this deal,
in this mandate, there was like a clause written in
there that if you hit a certain amount of energy
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that you need for the state, then this is null
and void. We will no longer have this mandate. Well,
this data center will be a massive amount of energy.
I mean, it's shocking to me how much energy it
will take. I have some stats that we'll get to,
but it will honestly blow your mind when you think
(11:11):
that this is you're taking. So every time you do
a chat, GPT search or something, even if it's for
a banana bread recipe, you are using ten times the
energy that you use for a Google search. And that's
something I never even considered that that's taking energy. Like
(11:32):
the minute you type that in ay I need this recipe,
there are all these things at fire that start to
take energy to come up with that. And the energy
that it takes even for someone to write an email,
or you have all these students writing papers and then
changing them. That is all just sucking up water and energy.
(11:52):
That to me is stunning. And now you have all
these tech bros who initially said they wanted to make
make sure that we were all renewable energy. Now we're
finding out that one of these data centers is consuming
as much electricity as one hundred thousand households. So you've
(12:14):
got one data center in the middle of farmland suddenly
needs enough energy for one hundred thousand households. How do
you think that changes a state like the state of Michigan, Right.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And so you've got these local communities saying, one, we
don't want this here, and two what is it going
to do to our energy rates?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
That's what will be the most shocking. In a time
when we are already suffering with these high costs, you're
going to suddenly the minute this goes in. It's not
just going to be this is my theory. Maybe I'll
be wrong. It's not just going to be our energy rates.
California has these blackouts. They suffer from blackouts. It's different
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in California when you are at seventy degree outside. We
already have energy problems in the state of Michigan. Other
I know other states don't, but we as a country
do not have an energy grid that can handle these
types of data centers and energy companies will tell you
that we met with an energy company and they said, oh,
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the grid has to be you know, we're trying to
invest in the grid, and we think that these there
are certain states that would be great states to invest
in the grid. The grid is not ready for the
energy that it takes to power our households as it
is now. We're talking about adding one hundred thousand households overnight.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And Michigan has you look at the statistics in Michigan
is amongst the most unreliable states for reliable energy. And
so what I So the Senate candidate you're talking about
about is abdual l said, and he came at this
(13:56):
from we need to protect these green energy mandates. But
Gretchen Whitmer has to know that the mandates that she
put in place. They have to acquire, like I said,
hundreds of thousands of acres to put in this renewable energy.
And everywhere they go they are reaching or they are
meeting resistance because rural communities don't want this stuff. They
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don't want their farmland, they don't want their forest land
chewed up by putting in power plants and wind farms
and all of that. So she is not going to
be able to hit the mandates, hit the goals that
she wants. And so when I watch the Abdual video,
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I thought to myself, well, maybe this is her way
to get out of the mandates, because he's pointing out
if there's too much demand, then the mandates are negated,
and so maybe this is our way out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
We aren't going into a mid term and we have
not heard the left talk about oil at all. You've
got President Trump talking to Saudi Arabia. You've got President
Trump saying he's not going to be friendly with Venezuela.
I mean, we're going after boats in the ocean. This
(15:15):
is the perfect time for the left to go oil, oil, oil,
oil oil. They have not said a word about it.
Suddenly all of these data centers are going in one
other thing that I think they have that is key here,
because oil is one form of energy. If you're on
the left, then you think that we'll just get energy
(15:36):
from anywhere, right, So there are other ways to get energy.
They're it's certainly not just in time energy. It's certainly
not efficient, but we are looking at ways of creating
energy outside of just drilling, right. So it's it's not
a finite resource. We can get more of it through
(15:57):
various different sources. You could argue that that's how the
left feels. Water is not that situation. We do have
a finite amount of water. There are people in the world.
We are trying to get clean water to areas of
the world because there is so little water, instead of
sending water to people who need it, which you would
(16:17):
think is a leftist talking point, like we've got to
have this clean water, we've got to make sure that
we have it to the appropriate areas. We are now using,
We're willing to use that water, and this water just evaporates.
It's not like you can reuse the water. It's not
like you're going to be able to reclaim the water
in any way. This water goes through to cool these
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systems down, it evaporates a single AI prompt, so that
one time that you ask for a recipe or you
ask for an email to be written, that is estimated
that every time you do that, you use one bottle
of water. Think about the number of people who are
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on the chat GPTs of the world every minute of
the day, and sometimes you're asking things you don't even need.
But that to me is very interesting because there is
no regulation of AI, and I am not a fan
of regulation. However, we are in this weird conundrum where
AI could potentially eliminate a resource that we cannot live without.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Right and again, so you go back to where they
want to put a lot of these data centers in
rural areas. Well, what does that mean they're going to
be sucking all of this water out of the ground
and how does that impact the rest of the community. Well,
we don't know, but what we're seeing in Michigan, in
particular in Saline Township, they don't really care about not
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the locals. The local people are opposed and they've been
very vocal about it, but unfortunately they don't have the
power to do anything about it because the state took
the power away, and the state has the power to
decide whether or not this goes in their community.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
That's also interesting because local politics are the most powerful,
and that's why we tell people all the time, make
sure you locally know what's going on. And we had
a factory that was going into a local town you
may remember Goshen owned by the Chinese. Those people fought
back against. That was another factory that was going to
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use a massive amount of water. This is now a
trend because that was in twenty twenty two. Now we
are seeing that there is no protection for our most
valuable natural resource. And again I will say that the
United States has a huge, vast resource in the Great Lakes.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And the state changed the law after the Goshen fight.
The main part of the Goshen fight because they realized
that the local communities could really could organize and fight
back against this. And so the people who get at
the state level who want to decide about these things
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and they don't really care what the local community thinks.
They're just going to try and do it. And so
what's interesting about the Seleine township one, as the Midwesterner reported,
is the vice president of the company that the company
that wants to build this is called Related Companies Related,
and the company that's technically going to build it is
Related Digital. It's owned by Related Companies. But the vice
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president of the company, his name is Ryan Friedrichs, and
his wife is the Secretary of State who is also
running for governor of Jocelyn Benson. And so here he
is out.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
He he was like a little bit of a company.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He was a lobbyist for the company. He's apparently is
no longer a lobbyist, but my guess is he's probably
doing very similar work. But he we posted on x
last week a video of him giving a presentation to
the Saline City Council about this project. So, yes, you're right.
(20:01):
What sort of conflict of interest does this create when
you have the husband of a statewide elected official who
wants to be the governor who would be appointing the
Public Service Commission, which actually is going to decide this.
But what they're doing is they are the company and DTE,
which is the power company. They are asking the Whitmer
(20:22):
administration to just rush this through. We don't need to
have hearings, we don't need to have public input, just
rush it through. But this is how they do it.
They don't care what the public, what the local community thinks.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But again, I think this goes to a larger issue
that who is going to protect our resources? What party
is a party? I mean, at a certain point this
is political. You have to come in and say we're
going to protect our resources. One report is predicting that
sixty percent of the growing electricity demands will be met
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by burning fossil fuels. So what the left says they're
totally against. This is going to increase the global carbon
emissions by two hundred and twenty million tons. Wait a minute,
those are numbers that any other time the left would
go crazy about. So you have to ask yourself, where
are they on this issue? Why is suddenly this not
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something we're talking about and it's happening in blue states,
So why aren't the environmentalists stepping up? Well, if you
don't know why, I can tell you what I think
is that people just don't even know. Forty percent I
think of people understand that there's going to be a
water consumption in these factories. Do they even understand the
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extent of it? Fifty percent of people understand that there's
an increase in energy. Do they understand that that's going
to hit their own pocket book? I don't really think so.
I was. I mean, as I was researching this to
talk about it on the podcast today. The sources that
I was finding that are giving this information out, these
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are not mainstream media sources. You have to really search
to find out exactly how dangerous these factories are. And
I say dangerous because they consume so much of our
natural resources. Again, water, There's no way to get more water.
It's a finite. You're not gonna once you use it all.
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You can't like, it's not replenishing quickly, so you can't
just use all of the water at one time. This
is a massive amount of water that's going through these factories.
Certainly don't want to drain our great lakes And people go, oh,
that's it, that's insane. You can't possibly do it, but
you can. You can get into a situation where this
is bad. And for what more coming up about data centers.
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I think last week a woman somewhere in Asia married
a chatbot, married a chatbot that she created through chat GPT.
(24:12):
She married, and I think that's so freaking weird, Like
she had, there's a whole nother I mean, we could
talk about this for a long time. There's a whole
other issue here. You have people using it like this,
so we're risking our water resources for someone to marry
a fake AI husband. This person was in a relationship
(24:36):
with an actual human, like a real person, and the
real person was like, you know what, I just feel
like I cannot get enough time with you because you're
always with your chatbot. And then she's like, my chatbot's
so much better because you programmed the chatbot. But how
does how is that enough? I mean you literally just
(24:58):
have programmed some thing to tell you all the things
you want to hear. Are we are we as a
society becoming that shallow and that and no longer rely
on on actual like I don't know, physical touch or
children or.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Is that so the person's sitting.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Has AI children now I think I know.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So is she sitting in front of a computer and chatting?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
No, she wears you wear these goggles and she sees
this I assume that the person maybe they look real.
I don't. I guess in my mind they look like
a cartoon. But I think you can look at oh
my gosh, it's disgusting. I think it's more dangerous than
you do. Obviously, these what about.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I don't understand. Guess I don't understand. I'm trying to.
I'm trying to understand, like what's going through someone's mind
when they say this is a good idea.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I marriages are breaking up, I mean there are. That's
that That was actually why this was interesting to me.
That was the only like mainstream media stuff that I
was seeing, Like teenagers are getting they're getting into these
chatbot roots or I don't know, I don't even know
how it works. I guess you like have your own
person or AI becomes like I don't know, I did
(26:15):
look in there. All of a sudden, there's all these
apps that come up that you can have your own like,
so I guess you feel like you're talking to a
real person, like it feels like it's your special person.
And you remember the story not too long ago about
the teenager who was saying, I don't think my parents
loved me, and the chat bot bot convinced him to
kill himself. I mean, so there are very weird dangers
(26:38):
about this, and you think, like, how is this. We
talk about the importance of AI from a national security standpoint, like, oh,
we can't let Russia get ahead of us or China
get ahead of us, But in the meantime, it seems
a little bit out of control that people are marrying
chat bots and teenagers are being convinced to commit suicide.
(27:00):
I mean, this seems like it's completely out of hand.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Right in the media is that's in the media is
covering that? The national media whatever? But what about what
about these other issues, the environmental issues, the issues of
you know, government overreach and mandating this is going to
go in your community. They're not really talking about that, right.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
No, they're not talking about that. I think they're talking
about things that are a cutesy like oh, this woman
married her.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Chapli tabloid stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yes, but there's a dark side of that too. These
are not I saw this thing the other day and
I don't know if this is real, and I'll just
end it on this because it was so disturbing. But
I'm also at the point where I'm like watching my
mom will say, oh, did you see this? I'm like,
that wasn't real. That's the other disturbing thing. You never
know if anything's real. So I saw this thing which
(27:55):
is probably not real, but it's like a glimpse into
maybe what could be the future. Or the woman takes
a video of her mother. She's like, I just need
three minutes of your time. She takes a video over
mother and she's then she gets pregnant. Mom is dead
at this point. Okay, so her mother dies. She has
(28:15):
this three minute video that turns into a chatbot and
she talks to her dead mother through a device that's
like and the mother is not her mother obviously is ai,
but she talks back to her. And then the baby
she gets pregnant. Grandma talks to the baby and the belly.
(28:36):
Grandma talks to the baby his whole life right, And
then it ends on him with Grandma like, my wife
is pregnant, and she says the same thing to him
that she's because she's a robot that she said to
the mother when she was pregnant. But I'm like, that
seems insane, but that could happen. How messed up is
that it was like your loved ones don't have to die,
(28:58):
they can live on forever.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
What, Well, there's that's a whole nother I mean, that's
a whole other issue of you go on on Facebook
now and there's so many posts that you go and
it's not post by your friends, it's post by these
pages that you go. I know that is not true.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I know that not scare that bear away from looking
the baby's face, but i've that.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I saw one today it said Bob Dylan, who I'm
a fan of, gave five million dollars of his tour
royalties this year to build homeless like homeless shelters in California.
I know that's not true, and I don't I don't care,
but why But why why is that on Facebook? Who
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is producing that? And why why is that not being so?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That is also so. I also kind of wonder if
the news doesn't talk about this stuff because they're using
chat GBT to write things. Because I think yesterday I
sent you guys something where in a newspaper. It was
actually in the newspaper. They had a whole article and
at the end they forgot to take out the part
where the chat GPT is, Like I can also write
it this way. You don't read my text messages, so anyway,
(30:13):
that's true. But at the end of it, but isn't
that disturbing?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, yeah, obviously, And that's a whole nother thing about
the media, the media using AI and not actually having
a human being with real sources producing the news.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And I've seen AI be very wrong with some of
the things that they're saying, like disturbingly wrong. So then
you just have this and it wasn't even checked. I
mean that to me is the shocking part. They'd let
AI write an article and then they didn't even read
it because they missed the part where AI was like,
or we could do it this way. What do you
think it's so disturbing. We could talk about AI for
(30:54):
a very long time. I have so many more things
we'll have to We will do more research on us,
and we'll bring it back to you because I feel
like we need to extend the AI conversation, but not today,
So today we will let you go on with your day.
But we are so appreciative of you being here, Kyle.
Thank you for chatting with me about chatbots. Thanks You're
(31:14):
not a chatbot. It's so nice. It's a real conversation
with a real person. Sometimes I feel like you're a chatbot.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Though, chatbot, I'm just about facts.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah right, it's not a love yeah. Not a lot
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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we are going
to do a deep dive into AI. I started looking
into AI like the earlier this week, because all of
a sudden, these songs hit the top of the billboard
chart and they were all AI, and I was like,
this is not cool. This seems off. I don't think
I like this. And then I started to see these
actors battling over whether or not they should hire AI actors,
(00:22):
and I was like talking to Kyle Olson about it,
and I said, I don't really like this, and he
had some alternative arguments for that. So I thought, come
on the podcast and let's talk about this. But then
I got a little deeper into it because I'm like,
all right now I have to really research this, and
I found out that there's something even more disturbing about AI.
(00:42):
It's like, all of a sudden, there's this change of
narrative from the left, which I find very interesting. You've
probably noticed that the left is not really talking about
climate change right now. Bill Gates even recently said that
climate change will not be the end of civilization, and
I was like, I thought the climate change was the end,
(01:04):
And then I would started thinking about it and I'm like,
you know, Greta who was lecturing us all for years
about climate change, she suddenly jumped off the climate change
boat and jumped onto the Gaza boat, like literally jumped
onto the Gaza.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Boat, right right, that's right?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
How dare you Greta? Anyway, everybody's off of this climate
change narrative, and I think it's because of Ai. What
do you think?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, I think, well, there's a lot there first, these songs. Well,
I guess the question is what do you want to
talk about songs? Because here's my opinion about it. If
it's a song you like, like, if that's your style
of music or whatever. Because there's there's this song that
is it's a country song that was the most downloaded
(01:52):
song last week. But it's completely I mean, it's fake,
I know, but.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I feel like there is this is taking away. I
don't know how it works. It's like some guy creates
this fake song. So is then he the artist? Is
he not? Is it not fake? Is he just making
up the words and then having AI put a voice
in lyrics to it? Because I guess to a certain extent,
(02:17):
I guess that's a different type of art. But then
what happens when you are a real artist competing against
that and you are in this zone where people can
use computers and everything to make it sound I mean,
you can make it sound perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And then sure, well they've been they've been using what's
it called voice?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh yeah, I don't like that auto tune?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Auto tune, they've been using that. And then you had
Milli Vanillilli.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They got busted.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Nobody think about think about what an outrage that was.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It was totally I'm do you remember because we're so
people were so mad about that, and because they were
they were essentially the original AI to company mission about it,
because they were fake artists and they were using someone,
but they were using someone's actual voice. This is like,
that's what freaks me out. It's not even someone's actual voice,
(03:18):
it's just this AI voice. So that's anyway, that's what
led me into this. But I do I want to
get into this other thing because I think that people
don't understand how AI works. Because I didn't understand this
until I started to look at like, oh, what does
it take to make one of these AI songs? Not
(03:39):
because I was not because I was plenty on doing it,
just looking at this and we have at the same time,
we kind of have like this clash of this AI
stuff going on, and data centers are coming into states
across the country. So you may be in a state
that's getting a data center. We are in a state
that's getting a data center or were they're trying the
(04:02):
data center. People in this town that are getting this
data center, they're freaked out about it because it's five
hundred and seventy five acres. That's a massive amount of space,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And it's a it's farmland, it's real. It's a rural community.
They don't see five hundred and seventy five acre, you know,
plants being built. And so they're saying, we want to
keep our community rural. We like living in farmland, we
(04:34):
like you know, farming, and this is how this is
how we want our township to be. And so then
this is really sort of the conflict, and I I
could see it's these sorts of projects are interesting if
there is if it makes sense, and is there a
way to reuse industrial land or land that you know
(04:58):
that's vacant or is.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So you and I differ here. Kyle and I differ
on this because he is like a I guess you
want to keep all of the agricultural land natural and
never build and never expand into those agricultural lands with manufacturing.
And I understand why some of our manufacturers don't want
(05:20):
to go to the old manufacturing sights because they do
have environmental problems that then the state will hold them
accountable for. And I'm not opposed to using some of
our land outside of the major manufacturing hubs to build
manufacturing centers. If you are going to build, like for example,
when forty used to come into a town and build
(05:42):
a new facility, like they would build a new assembly plant,
it would be ten thousand jobs. They would create a
community around a manufacturing plant like this, And I think
that is the striking difference here you have. And I
don't think they've ever used five hundred and seventy five acres.
I don't know that we've seen a facility that large.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
That's a lot of property.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I guess my but let me let me finish, because
I think the stark difference here is that this is
maybe four hundred and fifty jobs, maybe four hundred and
fifty jobs. But it's not just that it's only four
hundred and fifty jobs. When you have these these data
centers coming into your town, you have to understand that
(06:27):
your energy costs are going to go through the roof.
And I will say that I give I never thought
I would say this. I give one of our Democrats
senate candidates credit for calling them out on this. We
obviously have a different opinion of this, but I think
that he said he said something that shocked, kind of
(06:48):
struck you as like, oh, maybe this is the plan,
and struck me as well. I want to play what
he said right now so that you guys can hear
it and then we'll chat about what that means.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It required dt to get to one hundred percent rerulable
energy by twenty forty and you see the consequences of
that right here. But there was one loophole, There was
one poison pill that if energy demand got high enough
that they'd be let out of that requirement. And guess what,
with the advent of a new data center not too
far away from here, there's about to be a spike
in demand that is twenty five percent more than the
(07:21):
entire energy output that DTE currently does.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So that's pretty shocking.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, when I first saw this, I think I had
a different takeaway than what he was trying to communicate,
because let's take a step back. So what's happening is, well,
multiple things. One, I've been around Michigan politics long enough
to remember when there was this there was this farmland
(07:48):
preservation movement, and we as a state were spending taxpayer
dollars to buy the development rights of farmland so it
would be developed because the earth the concern was urban sprawl,
having you know, these having houses spread out into farmland.
(08:09):
So and that's what that's what you know, the progressives
and the people who wanted to do this sort of
central planning wanted to that's what that was their their policy.
Now we have these green energy mandates, where we are,
we stand on the precipice of chewing up hundreds of
(08:34):
hundreds of thousands of acres of farmland, forest land, et cetera,
to put solar panels, to put turbines, to put these
data centers, and they're not they suddenly are not concerned
about chewing up farmland anymore. But then you add on
(08:57):
top of this these sorts of of of data centers
that I know you've got some stats about, you know,
sort of the energy use, the water use, but the
amount of water and energy that these consume. And of
course the problem with putting them in farmland is there's
no infrastructure. There isn't sewer, there isn't city water, etc.
(09:21):
So where is that water going to come from. Well,
it's going to come from the ground.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Right Well, and if you look at our state, for example,
Michigan has some of the highest fresh water concentration in
the entire world, not just the country, in the entire
world because we've got the Great Lakes right here. So
you can see why this is attractive. But I think
what the Senate candidate was saying, which I found interesting,
I don't agree with him that we should I thought
(09:46):
it was actually fabulous that he showed how ugly the
solar farm is, because he's like, oh, we're getting rid
of this. We're going to have to get rid of
these solar farms because we're going to have too much
space taken up with these data centers and we won't
be able to And he was saying that the solar
farms won't come into existence because so in Michigan. But
(10:07):
I think in many states, lefty governors have said we're
going to have this Climate Initiative, which was led by
people like Bill Gates who now say, oh, this is
not an issue interestingly enough, now that they need all
of this energy for AI in Michigan, there's a mandate
in place that you can't. You have to be one
(10:29):
hundred percent renewable energy by twenty forty. So that's what
that guy was pointing at. He's like, oh my gosh,
we were supposed to be all solar panels and wind turbines,
and now we're not going to be because in this deal,
in this mandate, there was like a clause written in
there that if you hit a certain amount of energy
(10:51):
that you need for the state, then this is null
and void. We will no longer have this mandate. Well,
this data center will be a massive amount of energy.
I mean, it's shocking to me how much energy it
will take. I have some stats that we'll get to,
but it will honestly blow your mind when you think
(11:11):
that this is you're taking. So every time you do
a chat, GPT search or something, even if it's for
a banana bread recipe, you are using ten times the
energy that you use for a Google search. And that's
something I never even considered that that's taking energy. Like
(11:32):
the minute you type that in ay I need this recipe,
there are all these things at fire that start to
take energy to come up with that. And the energy
that it takes even for someone to write an email,
or you have all these students writing papers and then
changing them. That is all just sucking up water and energy.
(11:52):
That to me is stunning. And now you have all
these tech bros who initially said they wanted to make
make sure that we were all renewable energy. Now we're
finding out that one of these data centers is consuming
as much electricity as one hundred thousand households. So you've
(12:14):
got one data center in the middle of farmland suddenly
needs enough energy for one hundred thousand households. How do
you think that changes a state like the state of Michigan, Right.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And so you've got these local communities saying, one, we
don't want this here, and two what is it going
to do to our energy rates?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
That's what will be the most shocking. In a time
when we are already suffering with these high costs, you're
going to suddenly the minute this goes in. It's not
just going to be this is my theory. Maybe I'll
be wrong. It's not just going to be our energy rates.
California has these blackouts. They suffer from blackouts. It's different
(12:57):
in California when you are at seventy degree outside. We
already have energy problems in the state of Michigan. Other
I know other states don't, but we as a country
do not have an energy grid that can handle these
types of data centers and energy companies will tell you
that we met with an energy company and they said, oh,
(13:19):
the grid has to be you know, we're trying to
invest in the grid, and we think that these there
are certain states that would be great states to invest
in the grid. The grid is not ready for the
energy that it takes to power our households as it
is now. We're talking about adding one hundred thousand households overnight.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And Michigan has you look at the statistics in Michigan
is amongst the most unreliable states for reliable energy. And
so what I So the Senate candidate you're talking about
about is abdual l said, and he came at this
(13:56):
from we need to protect these green energy mandates. But
Gretchen Whitmer has to know that the mandates that she
put in place. They have to acquire, like I said,
hundreds of thousands of acres to put in this renewable energy.
And everywhere they go they are reaching or they are
meeting resistance because rural communities don't want this stuff. They
(14:21):
don't want their farmland, they don't want their forest land
chewed up by putting in power plants and wind farms
and all of that. So she is not going to
be able to hit the mandates, hit the goals that
she wants. And so when I watch the Abdual video,
(14:42):
I thought to myself, well, maybe this is her way
to get out of the mandates, because he's pointing out
if there's too much demand, then the mandates are negated,
and so maybe this is our way out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
We aren't going into a mid term and we have
not heard the left talk about oil at all. You've
got President Trump talking to Saudi Arabia. You've got President
Trump saying he's not going to be friendly with Venezuela.
I mean, we're going after boats in the ocean. This
(15:15):
is the perfect time for the left to go oil, oil, oil,
oil oil. They have not said a word about it.
Suddenly all of these data centers are going in one
other thing that I think they have that is key here,
because oil is one form of energy. If you're on
the left, then you think that we'll just get energy
(15:36):
from anywhere, right, So there are other ways to get energy.
They're it's certainly not just in time energy. It's certainly
not efficient, but we are looking at ways of creating
energy outside of just drilling, right. So it's it's not
a finite resource. We can get more of it through
(15:57):
various different sources. You could argue that that's how the
left feels. Water is not that situation. We do have
a finite amount of water. There are people in the world.
We are trying to get clean water to areas of
the world because there is so little water, instead of
sending water to people who need it, which you would
(16:17):
think is a leftist talking point, like we've got to
have this clean water, we've got to make sure that
we have it to the appropriate areas. We are now using,
We're willing to use that water, and this water just evaporates.
It's not like you can reuse the water. It's not
like you're going to be able to reclaim the water
in any way. This water goes through to cool these
(16:38):
systems down, it evaporates a single AI prompt, so that
one time that you ask for a recipe or you
ask for an email to be written, that is estimated
that every time you do that, you use one bottle
of water. Think about the number of people who are
(16:58):
on the chat GPTs of the world every minute of
the day, and sometimes you're asking things you don't even need.
But that to me is very interesting because there is
no regulation of AI, and I am not a fan
of regulation. However, we are in this weird conundrum where
AI could potentially eliminate a resource that we cannot live without.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Right and again, so you go back to where they
want to put a lot of these data centers in
rural areas. Well, what does that mean they're going to
be sucking all of this water out of the ground
and how does that impact the rest of the community. Well,
we don't know, but what we're seeing in Michigan, in
particular in Saline Township, they don't really care about not
(17:43):
the locals. The local people are opposed and they've been
very vocal about it, but unfortunately they don't have the
power to do anything about it because the state took
the power away, and the state has the power to
decide whether or not this goes in their community.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
That's also interesting because local politics are the most powerful,
and that's why we tell people all the time, make
sure you locally know what's going on. And we had
a factory that was going into a local town you
may remember Goshen owned by the Chinese. Those people fought
back against. That was another factory that was going to
(18:21):
use a massive amount of water. This is now a
trend because that was in twenty twenty two. Now we
are seeing that there is no protection for our most
valuable natural resource. And again I will say that the
United States has a huge, vast resource in the Great Lakes.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And the state changed the law after the Goshen fight.
The main part of the Goshen fight because they realized
that the local communities could really could organize and fight
back against this. And so the people who get at
the state level who want to decide about these things
(19:00):
and they don't really care what the local community thinks.
They're just going to try and do it. And so
what's interesting about the Seleine township one, as the Midwesterner reported,
is the vice president of the company that the company
that wants to build this is called Related Companies Related,
and the company that's technically going to build it is
Related Digital. It's owned by Related Companies. But the vice
(19:24):
president of the company, his name is Ryan Friedrichs, and
his wife is the Secretary of State who is also
running for governor of Jocelyn Benson. And so here he
is out.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
He he was like a little bit of a company.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
He was a lobbyist for the company. He's apparently is
no longer a lobbyist, but my guess is he's probably
doing very similar work. But he we posted on x
last week a video of him giving a presentation to
the Saline City Council about this project. So, yes, you're right.
(20:01):
What sort of conflict of interest does this create when
you have the husband of a statewide elected official who
wants to be the governor who would be appointing the
Public Service Commission, which actually is going to decide this.
But what they're doing is they are the company and DTE,
which is the power company. They are asking the Whitmer
(20:22):
administration to just rush this through. We don't need to
have hearings, we don't need to have public input, just
rush it through. But this is how they do it.
They don't care what the public, what the local community thinks.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But again, I think this goes to a larger issue
that who is going to protect our resources? What party
is a party? I mean, at a certain point this
is political. You have to come in and say we're
going to protect our resources. One report is predicting that
sixty percent of the growing electricity demands will be met
(20:54):
by burning fossil fuels. So what the left says they're
totally against. This is going to increase the global carbon
emissions by two hundred and twenty million tons. Wait a minute,
those are numbers that any other time the left would
go crazy about. So you have to ask yourself, where
are they on this issue? Why is suddenly this not
(21:17):
something we're talking about and it's happening in blue states,
So why aren't the environmentalists stepping up? Well, if you
don't know why, I can tell you what I think
is that people just don't even know. Forty percent I
think of people understand that there's going to be a
water consumption in these factories. Do they even understand the
(21:38):
extent of it? Fifty percent of people understand that there's
an increase in energy. Do they understand that that's going
to hit their own pocket book? I don't really think so.
I was. I mean, as I was researching this to
talk about it on the podcast today. The sources that
I was finding that are giving this information out, these
(21:59):
are not mainstream media sources. You have to really search
to find out exactly how dangerous these factories are. And
I say dangerous because they consume so much of our
natural resources. Again, water, There's no way to get more water.
It's a finite. You're not gonna once you use it all.
(22:20):
You can't like, it's not replenishing quickly, so you can't
just use all of the water at one time. This
is a massive amount of water that's going through these factories.
Certainly don't want to drain our great lakes And people go, oh,
that's it, that's insane. You can't possibly do it, but
you can. You can get into a situation where this
is bad. And for what more coming up about data centers.
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I think last week a woman somewhere in Asia married
a chatbot, married a chatbot that she created through chat GPT.
(24:12):
She married, and I think that's so freaking weird, Like
she had, there's a whole nother I mean, we could
talk about this for a long time. There's a whole
other issue here. You have people using it like this,
so we're risking our water resources for someone to marry
a fake AI husband. This person was in a relationship
(24:36):
with an actual human, like a real person, and the
real person was like, you know what, I just feel
like I cannot get enough time with you because you're
always with your chatbot. And then she's like, my chatbot's
so much better because you programmed the chatbot. But how
does how is that enough? I mean you literally just
(24:58):
have programmed some thing to tell you all the things
you want to hear. Are we are we as a
society becoming that shallow and that and no longer rely
on on actual like I don't know, physical touch or
children or.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Is that so the person's sitting.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Has AI children now I think I know.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So is she sitting in front of a computer and chatting?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
No, she wears you wear these goggles and she sees
this I assume that the person maybe they look real.
I don't. I guess in my mind they look like
a cartoon. But I think you can look at oh
my gosh, it's disgusting. I think it's more dangerous than
you do. Obviously, these what about.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I don't understand. Guess I don't understand. I'm trying to.
I'm trying to understand, like what's going through someone's mind
when they say this is a good idea.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I marriages are breaking up, I mean there are. That's
that That was actually why this was interesting to me.
That was the only like mainstream media stuff that I
was seeing, Like teenagers are getting they're getting into these
chatbot roots or I don't know, I don't even know
how it works. I guess you like have your own
person or AI becomes like I don't know, I did
(26:15):
look in there. All of a sudden, there's all these
apps that come up that you can have your own like,
so I guess you feel like you're talking to a
real person, like it feels like it's your special person.
And you remember the story not too long ago about
the teenager who was saying, I don't think my parents
loved me, and the chat bot bot convinced him to
kill himself. I mean, so there are very weird dangers
(26:38):
about this, and you think, like, how is this. We
talk about the importance of AI from a national security standpoint, like, oh,
we can't let Russia get ahead of us or China
get ahead of us, But in the meantime, it seems
a little bit out of control that people are marrying
chat bots and teenagers are being convinced to commit suicide.
(27:00):
I mean, this seems like it's completely out of hand.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Right in the media is that's in the media is
covering that? The national media whatever? But what about what
about these other issues, the environmental issues, the issues of
you know, government overreach and mandating this is going to
go in your community. They're not really talking about that, right.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
No, they're not talking about that. I think they're talking
about things that are a cutesy like oh, this woman
married her.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Chapli tabloid stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yes, but there's a dark side of that too. These
are not I saw this thing the other day and
I don't know if this is real, and I'll just
end it on this because it was so disturbing. But
I'm also at the point where I'm like watching my
mom will say, oh, did you see this? I'm like,
that wasn't real. That's the other disturbing thing. You never
know if anything's real. So I saw this thing which
(27:55):
is probably not real, but it's like a glimpse into
maybe what could be the future. Or the woman takes
a video of her mother. She's like, I just need
three minutes of your time. She takes a video over
mother and she's then she gets pregnant. Mom is dead
at this point. Okay, so her mother dies. She has
(28:15):
this three minute video that turns into a chatbot and
she talks to her dead mother through a device that's
like and the mother is not her mother obviously is ai,
but she talks back to her. And then the baby
she gets pregnant. Grandma talks to the baby and the belly.
(28:36):
Grandma talks to the baby his whole life right, And
then it ends on him with Grandma like, my wife
is pregnant, and she says the same thing to him
that she's because she's a robot that she said to
the mother when she was pregnant. But I'm like, that
seems insane, but that could happen. How messed up is
that it was like your loved ones don't have to die,
(28:58):
they can live on forever.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
What, Well, there's that's a whole nother I mean, that's
a whole other issue of you go on on Facebook
now and there's so many posts that you go and
it's not post by your friends, it's post by these
pages that you go. I know that is not true.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I know that not scare that bear away from looking
the baby's face, but i've that.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I saw one today it said Bob Dylan, who I'm
a fan of, gave five million dollars of his tour
royalties this year to build homeless like homeless shelters in California.
I know that's not true, and I don't I don't care,
but why But why why is that on Facebook? Who
(29:46):
is producing that? And why why is that not being so?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That is also so. I also kind of wonder if
the news doesn't talk about this stuff because they're using
chat GBT to write things. Because I think yesterday I
sent you guys something where in a newspaper. It was
actually in the newspaper. They had a whole article and
at the end they forgot to take out the part
where the chat GPT is, Like I can also write
it this way. You don't read my text messages, so anyway,
(30:13):
that's true. But at the end of it, but isn't
that disturbing?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, yeah, obviously, And that's a whole nother thing about
the media, the media using AI and not actually having
a human being with real sources producing the news.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And I've seen AI be very wrong with some of
the things that they're saying, like disturbingly wrong. So then
you just have this and it wasn't even checked. I
mean that to me is the shocking part. They'd let
AI write an article and then they didn't even read
it because they missed the part where AI was like,
or we could do it this way. What do you
think it's so disturbing. We could talk about AI for
(30:54):
a very long time. I have so many more things
we'll have to We will do more research on us,
and we'll bring it back to you because I feel
like we need to extend the AI conversation, but not today,
So today we will let you go on with your day.
But we are so appreciative of you being here, Kyle.
Thank you for chatting with me about chatbots. Thanks You're
(31:14):
not a chatbot. It's so nice. It's a real conversation
with a real person. Sometimes I feel like you're a chatbot.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Though, chatbot, I'm just about facts.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah right, it's not a love yeah. Not a lot
of highs and lows, all right. Anyway, thank you all
for joining us on the Tutor Dixon podcast. For this
episode and others, go to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com.
You can subscribe subscribe right there, or go to the
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