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August 7, 2024 30 mins

In this episode, Tudor and Morgan Ortagus discuss Kamala Harris' vice presidential pick, Tim Walz, and his potential impact on foreign policy. They express concerns about Walz's positions on Israel and China, as well as his lack of experience in foreign policy. They also discuss the dangers of Iran's interference in the US election and the escalating tensions in the Middle East. The conversation highlights the importance of strong foreign policy leadership and the potential consequences of a weak and appeasing approach. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Morgan or
Tegas with me. She is the former State Department spokesperson
under President Trump and the host of the Morgan or
Tegas Show on Sirius XM every Sunday starting at eleven
am Eastern time. And I just want to jump into
everything that is happening with Kamala's pick to what's.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Going on over in the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
And I knew you were the best person to have
to talk about this, Morgan, So thank you so much
for joining me.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Happy to thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Absolutely so we know now that the vice presidential pick
is Tim Walls. I think this is very interesting because
everything leading up to this said it was going to
be Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, a pick that I think
makes a lot more sense than Minnesota, because Pennsylvania is
something you need, a state you need to win. She
needs to win, she needs to reach out to the

(00:50):
Jewish community. In my opinion, this fake out. I think
that this was her at the last minute bucking the establishment,
saying I'm not going to have somebody who's going to
be a check on me. I'm not going to have
somebody who's going to be pro Israel, and he's not
been pro Israel. But just even the idea of having
a Jewish person in the ticket with her, I think
spooked her so badly that she bucked him and said

(01:13):
she was going to go with the Minnesota governor. But
I want your opinion on it. What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Well, I don't know what's in the mind of the
Vice President, but I will tell you that it was
disappointing to see how Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania,
started walking back a lot of his previous positions and
statements on Israel in order to get the VP pick.
And by the way, listen, as somebody of the Jewish faith,
just because you're Jewish doesn't mean that you're going to

(01:38):
be good on Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
That's not like a get out of jail free card
that you get to promote. Policies that are harmful to
the Jewish people here in the United States are harmful
to Israel. So but I think he would have been
a smart pick. He's a really talented politician. In fact,
he's so talented. When I saw his press conference over
the weekend, one of them he gave a few I

(02:00):
thought oh, I think he might outshine her.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
So that's what she was afraid of too.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
He was.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
When I saw him, I thought, oh, man, I kind
of hope he's not the pick. And he was really good.
And I think that could have been part of it,
because she does struggle in front of the camera. She
struggles with her oratory skills. That's not Shapiro has things
that I disagree with. That's not his struggle. So it
was definitely kind of disappointing for me to see, you know,
his Wikipedia page get scribbed about his service from the

(02:28):
IDF and him walk back some of his previous positions.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh yeah, he.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Walked back some of his previous positions on Israel to
try to get the VP nomination, And so you know,
he's going to have to live with with doing that,
with flip flopping and then not even having anything to.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Show for it.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I would say that there was definitely, you know, on
the political side of things, you hear that some people
in the Trump campaign, of which you know, I'm not
a part of, but I was a part of the
president's former administration on the foreign policy side.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
This is how I judge things.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
So I saw some people in the campaign were because
this is like such a lefty liberal picky. They've doubled
down on being woke and on being liberal again, using
their words some of Kamala Harris's words that.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Came out over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
When I look at him, you know, I look at
it from a foreign policy and a national security position,
I find it to be quite scary, you know, worrying
that he chose to honeymoon in China, worrying that he
spent so much time on business and trade ties between
the United States and China. Not that you can't have
a good you know that you can't have good relationships

(03:34):
with with tough countries. I mean, there's plenty of US
businesses that do trade and do business in China. The
point is is he appears to take very soft positions
on China.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
One of the things that I actually in the first
couple of years of the Biden administration, I spent a
lot of time criticizing their foreign policy. One of the
places where I didn't criticize them tutor is I felt
like they had actually extended, at least initially, a lot
of the tough approaches that the Trump team had taken
on China. Kept Trump sanctions in place, Trump terrorist in place,
for example, on China, that is something that I would

(04:06):
think you would see Kamala Harris and Governor.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Walls walk away from.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I mean, that's you know, it's clear to me that
he would have a very dubvish position on China, which
I think is incredibly worrying. I've also started looking up
his foreign policy record. He actually opposed in twenty thirteen
a response by the United States whenever Basher al A
Sad again. This was in the Obama administration, just to

(04:30):
peel back the onion. President Obama had said at the
time in twenty thirteen, if Asad had used chemical weapons
against the Syrian people, against his own people, that would
be a red line for him, and he would want
to get involved. Of course, what did the dictator do?
He tested that redline, he used chemical weapons and the
United States basically did nothing about it, and Governor Walls

(04:51):
was supportive of Obama's position of not doing anything about Asad.
So I think if you think that Middle East policy
and the Biden ministration, Biden Harris administration has worked, you
would see that same type of appeasement in devastenists, only
probably lit on fire by these two. I think from
a foreign policy perspective, this would be the dovis the

(05:14):
weakest and the dubvish, you know, sort of foreign policy
stance from an administration that we've seen in a long time.
So on one hand, you've got Bernie Sanders honeymooning in
the Soviet Union and you have Tim Wald's honeymooning in China.
This is a match made and socialist heaven for the.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Left well, and he says one to one person's socialism
is another person's neighborliness.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think, what's the quote from him?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I mean, to me, that is terrifying because we know
exactly what he wants to bring in and he's looking
to be the vice president of the United States. Now
I want to dig a little deeper into the China thing,
because we're hearing now that not only did he honeymoon
in China, but he taught a course that was approved
by the Chinese Communist Party. He also summered there for many,

(06:00):
many years. He went back and forth to China. This
is not foreign relations. This is admiration for an adversary.
And this doesn't mean that he had any relationship with
the government. While he was there that would be keeping
them in line. I mean from a foreign policy standpoint,
they don't have somebody on the ticket that understands foreign policy.

(06:20):
I mean, just a few years ago we heard Kamala
Harris laugh that she hasn't been to the border, but
she hasn't been to Europe either.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
She's been a flop on the world stage.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
This is a guy who's certainly not going to be
revered by our allies if he's over there vacationing and
sunning himself in China where they're abusing people and constantly
using people as slaves and human rights offenses, and then
obviously also partnering up with Russia Iran in North Korea.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
This is very dangerous.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
It's a silly and unseerious view of the world in
the most serious of times.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
You know, I can't.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
It was often joked in the Trump administration, you know,
people would say Trump's going to start World War II.
We of course know that that didn't happen on our watch.
Now we are in the most perilous time, you know,
even more so than nine to eleven. We are in
such a perilous time around the world. Listen, global markets
are clearly reflecting that. Just what you see in the
stock market in the past few days, global markets are

(07:18):
pricing and more instability. We're sitting here as we talk
just waiting for the Iranians to attack Israel, whether it's
directly or through their militias right or through their terrors
terrorist groups that they support in the Middle East. So
we're in very, very serious and unsteady times and we
don't need people with sort of a silly, blase view

(07:39):
of the world. Listen, there was Republican and democratic administrations
for the last thirty years or so tried to bring
China into the fold, right, So this started with the
Clinton administration opening to China. Then it started with the
Bush administration and the WTO World Trade Organization accession for China.
And to be fair, both sides, Republicans and Democrats thought

(08:02):
for many years, if we trade with China, if we
do business with China, we can bring them underneath the umbrella.
They will moderate, they won't act like communists. Well, spoiler alert,
everybody was wrong until Donald Trump. Everybody was wrong. President
Obama thought that we needed to pivot towards China, to
focus on Asia in order to sort of acquiesce to

(08:22):
the rise of China and have China rise peacefully as
America declined peacefully. That's what whenever President Obama said he
wanted to pivot to Asia Tudor, that was his focus
was a steady Chinese rise with a steady American decline
that he thought he could manage peacefully. President Trump and
Mike Pompeo said, absolutely, we will not accept that this

(08:43):
is just the inevitable that this is.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Going to happen.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
We're not going to watch us. And so, surprise, surprise,
everybody who thought for years that the Communist could be
paid off and could moderate their behavior through business and
through trade, We're wrong. What the Communist did is continue
to behave like communists as they are, and so we
have seen them be incredibly aggressive on the world stage.

(09:05):
And part of what they do, by the way, part
of what the Chinese Communist Party does, and we've discovered
this and had to shine the light on it here
in America is they had things like Confucius Institutes in
our college university campuses. You know, they were specifically seeking
out mayors and governors and people in county offices around
the country to embed themselves and try to paint, you know,

(09:28):
Chinese tombs those. I think that there's a lot of
questions that he has to answer. There's a lot of
things for me. Me and all of my friends that
are sort of in the China Hawk you know space
that think that we have to hold the Chinese Communist
Party accountable, are incredibly concerned by this pick. Listen, it's
a fifty to fifty shot for Harris or Trump, and

(09:49):
so this guy could easily be vice president and I
am I don't mean to overstate things, but I am
really concerned about the world. IF Walls is a part
of our form decision making process.

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after this. I'm concerned that we're not actually hearing the
full story on China, because obviously we've seen this bizarre
reversal on the media from Biden to Harris.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Oh it's great, We're so happy about Harris.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean, they went from loving Biden to hating Biden
to Harris was a moron?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
To Harris is incredible.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
So I don't trust I mean I think that the
American people, if you, if you pulled them right now,
would say, who can I trust? I don't trust the media.
So we had this spy balloon go across the country,
or a Chinese balloon go across the country that wasn't
shot down, Harris Waltz administration might actually give it space
to fly and say yes, you're welcome in here.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But we had just a few like a week ago, we.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Had this situation where we saw Russia and China flying
bombers together right off the coast of Alaska. We've heard
nothing about that, nothing. I mean, the mainstream media just
disappeared that story. What is that and how dangerous is that?

Speaker 4 (12:31):
And let me bring up one point too. Why you're
talking and I'll answer that question. But while you're talking
about elections, you know we have foreign actors, foreign foreign states,
the Islamic Republic of Iran right now is meddling in
our presidential election to try and make sure Trump doesn't win.
This was brought to light by the d and I
she's a presidential appointee, she's a Biden appointee. This was

(12:53):
declassified from their office. This got totally swept on the
rug by the media. So I wrote an not beed.
I have it coming out. You guys can look for it.
But I'm going wait a minute, here's the foreign interference
in our presidential elections that you guys have all been
warning of, and it's basically being ignored. So that's happening
from the Islamic Republic of Iran. When it relates to
the Russian and Chinese bombers, again, we have never seen

(13:16):
this happen before. And the important point is when did
this happen?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Tutor.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
They chose to fly their bombers together in our airspace
near Alaska as President Biden was addressing the nation and
explaining supposedly to the nation why he wasn't running for reelection.
So that was a big middle finger from China and
Russia to us. It shows that they don't respect us.
It shows that they don't respect our current leadership team,

(13:43):
and we should expect to see more of this, you know,
if you want four more years of chaos and tumult
and war in theater after theater after a theater. I believe,
and again this is not because I'm an overly partisan
or political animal, but I believe the foreign policy of
the Biden hair administration and Ava Harris Walls administration is
so bad and so dangerous that you will see war

(14:06):
continue around the world.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, I think that this is what we fear when
you talk about these two bombers coming together. You've got
Russia and China flying into US airspace for the first
time ever, and you and right now we're looking at
a vice presidential candidate who has cozied up to China
his entire life, his entire adult life, He's been cozied
up to China. And I think it's interesting that you
bring up that the news is not reporting on this

(14:30):
Iran election interference. I hadn't heard that, and it's likely
because nobody is reporting on it. But think about just
let me play what ifism for a second, because think
about what if Donald Trump had been going spending summering
in Russia. If he had honeymooned in Russia. Can you

(14:50):
even imagine this? Could you even imagine what the media
would be NonStop talking about that? If that or if
jd Vance, if that were his pick and they were like, oh,
jd Vance honey mood in Russia, the media would be
beside themselves that it would be all they talk about.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
You know, it will be interesting to see. And I
assume and hope that we'll have a debate, a vice
presidential debate between those two candidates, because they were both enlisted.
So this has got to be the first time in
presidential history that we have two enlisted people from the
military going up against each other. So I'm interested in
it from that aspect. But listen, every politician in America

(15:26):
should be looking at this report again from the D
and I. This is from the President Biden's administration that
says that the Islamic Republic of Iran is meddling in
our election. They should be decrying this. They should be
asking what is the administration doing. They should be exposing
the accounts on social media that Iran backs to try
and influence our election. We are seeing a real time

(15:47):
foreign influence operation on our presidential campaign, in real time,
and like no one knows anything about it. It's just
me yelling into the wind.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Basically, it's shocking, and I do look forward to that debate.
I think it'll be very interesting because you have kind
of this elitist I think that Tim Waltz tries to
play the I'm the midwestern Midwest nice I'm the average
everyday guy. But if you dig deep into the things
he said, the socialism comments, but even the comments about

(16:17):
rural Minnesota, the red area is just like corn and
cows or something that like as if those people don't matter. Well,
guess what that rural person is, Jadie Vance. That's how
he grew up. He grew up in rural Ohio. It's
not very different than rural Minnesota. So when you talk
about the rural Americans in that manner, that I think

(16:39):
will be fascinating to see JD say, you know what,
I know what it is to be raised by a
single mom with grandparents who worked at the local steel shop.
I know what that's like. I am that rural family
that you think is meaningless, that you're like, don't worry
about those red areas. We're going to just power through
our cities and the manipulation of the city. I mean

(17:00):
the fact that he was like, well, I didn't bring
the National Guard in to save the people in Minneapolis
because I didn't think that they had.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
A good plan.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
So I waited three days until the businesses were fully destroyed.
And let me remind people, it was white people that
went in and rioted and destroyed these businesses that are
black owned businesses, and they egged them on, they said
stay in the streets. Kamala Harris too. It just shocks
me and it disgusts me. And if the media does
not hold them accountable for riots that were unlike anything

(17:31):
we'd seen in thirty years in the United States of America,
and damage that was greater than anything we'd seen in
thirty years in the United States of America, if they
don't hold him accountable to that, that will be disgusting
and it will be a journalistic malpractice.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Well, we could probably expect that they won't hold him
to account. I mean, it's been two weeks since the
vice president has assumed. You know, they kicked the other
guy off the ballot put her on. The other guy
being the same president of the United States. It's been
two weeks. She has an answer to single press conference.
She hasn't done a single interview, she's not taking questions.
I assume she'll do a rally of some sort today

(18:06):
and still not take more questions. So I guess for me,
it's sort of baked in the cake that they're going
to get preferential treatment. And that's why, you know, I
think that we have to be really good and on
our game. It's also why everything that you just laid
out to me also highlights the vice president's culpability and
paying for the bail, you know, for some of these rioters.

(18:27):
So this choice, in so many ways makes the distinction
for the Republicans to say that the vice president is
way too far left, she's out of the mainstream. It
makes that that comparison, It makes that analogy so easy
that it makes me sort of, you know, makes me
confused why they would pick him. And I think the

(18:48):
reality is a vice president, you know, for the vice
presidential pick, Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, would have been
so much better in terms of helping her win Pennsylvania,
which is a crucial mess whin state for both her
and Trump. I don't think you know that the Democrats
really need Minnesota. It also goes to show listen if
you looked online this weekend. This past weekend, there was

(19:09):
a really a lot of very ugly things that happened
on the left Whenever it looked like Shapiro may be
the nominee, he was. If you look at what happened online,
he was targeted for being Jewish.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
He was targeted.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
That's why they were trying to downplay the fact that
he had volunteered for the IDF. It has got to
be in my opinion, if you're a Jewish Democrat and
you're looking at what happened to Shapiro by the party
this weekend, I mean it was pretty scary, right. I mean,
he is essentially in many ways not the vice presidential

(19:42):
nominee because of past positions that he took on Israel,
because he's served in the IDF, and because he's Jewish.

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with Morgan ortagis after this. They have an anti Semitic
mob that is out of control, and they are afraid
of them. I mean, what party is afraid of part

(21:15):
of their constituency, and truly a constituency that has wished
death upon a certain group. I mean, there is nothing
more discriminatory or scary than that, and yet they seem
to be okay with this.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Listen, it's not just a mob or a fringe part
of their party. It's people an elected office, you know,
And yeah, that's true. Good point, openly say anti Semitic things.
We see Democratic congresswomen saying chanting from the River to
the Sea, which we know is a genocidal slogan against
the Jewish people. That means that they want to annihilate
the Jewish state. I don't say this as somebody who Again,

(21:52):
I don't say this as a partisan. I've worked for
both sides. I've been in the career intel community, and
I think Israel needs support from more than just the
Republican Party. Israel needs support from both sides of the eye. Also,
I don't say this with a political you know, bent
and mind. I say this being deeply, deeply concerned about
the fate of Jewish people in this country. With the

(22:15):
far left so in control of the Democratic Party right now, well.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think that they're afraid of Michigan. Obviously, we know
that there's a large Arab American community in Michigan. It's interesting, though,
because as I meet with our Arab American leaders, I
don't think that they are saying, oh, yeah, we want
to continue this war. I mean, the majority of the
people that I've met with have said, you know, we
need to have peace. We need to figure out a
way to get peace. They're not happy about this extended war.

(22:43):
I just saw somebody yesterday calling for all of his
family and friends in Lebanon to leave, saying, you know,
this is going to be bad.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I think that there are people that have lived this.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
There are immigrants here who have lived this, who came
here to get away from the constant war, who are
watching what's happening in the Middle East. They understand the
significance of the attack on the Hamas leader in Tehran.
Also significant Why is the Hamas leader in Tehran? Iran
is obviously paying for this, And I think that people

(23:17):
don't necessarily understand when we've listed Iran as the leading
state sponsor of terror in the world.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
They sponsor terror.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
They do that with the money that they get from
big oil. And they were allowed to make money on
oil or they're big oil, not our big oil.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
They have been able.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
To make money on oil because Joe Biden allowed them to.
This was something that they had been stopped. They had
the sanctions, they brought in.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
All this money.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
They pay these groups to go in and attack Israel.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
That is what they do.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
We have friends who are telling their family members in
the Middle East leave, get to safety. It is going
to be worse than you could ever imagine. So what
do you see coming right now? We've seen the iatola,
We've seen these posts on Twitter, which I think is
so crazy. Like on social media, they come out the
same people that were doing this years ago when Trump

(24:16):
was kicked off social media. Obviously it's different now with
Elon Musk, but they're still out there saying, hey, yeah,
we're going to murder people now.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
And it's they're serious. I mean, how serious is what
we hear.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
The Commani from Iran saying out there, well.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's very serious. I mean, there's so many different ways
to look at this problem. Set First of all, let's
just look at what happened in Iraq yesterday. She and
Malicia So you talked about how Iran was allowed to
export their oil under the Biden administration, which they have
not been that you know, no enforced sanctions essentially, which

(24:53):
did not happen in the Trump administration of course. And
so now in the Biden administration they are billions of dollars.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
What are they doing with that money?

Speaker 4 (25:02):
As you said that, it's not going to public infrastructure,
it's not going to new schools or roads, it's going
to their terror proxies. And so what are we seeing
happen with that money. Well, just yesterday members of our
military at Alison Base in Iraq were injured in an
attack from SA militias. They are funded, they are trained,

(25:23):
they are equipped with a weaponry that they used to
attack us from Iran less than two weeks ago. Again,
this didn't make news. I don't know if everybody remembers this.
Our American Embassy branch office in Tel Aviv was almost
hit by terrorists. Now what terrs are this?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
The Houthis?

Speaker 4 (25:41):
How far away were the Houthis which are all the
way down in Yemen at the bottom of the Arabian
Peninsula from our American Embassy branch office in Tel Aviv
fifteen hundred miles Tutor fifteen hundred miles. A terrorist group
was able to come this close, this close to hitting
our American Embassy branch office. What about our navy in
the Red Sea? Our US Navy has seen more action

(26:05):
from the Huthis shooting ballistic missiles and killer suicide drones
in the Red Sea. They have seen more action than
our US Navy has seen since War War Two.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I just want everybody to let that sink in.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
So when President Biden gets in front of the American
people two weeks ago, whenever he made his speech about
again supposedly why he wasn't running for the election, he
made a statement that I think is just factually incorrect.
He essentially implied that American troops were in no wars
overseas in his administration. Well, you may not call it
a war, but when your navy is seeing more action

(26:42):
than it has since World War Two, whenever your service
members are getting killed, when your service members are getting
shot at, when your diplomatic facilities, when your diplomats are
getting rocketed, whenever they're getting shot at, and targeted. I
call that a war, so you can call it whatever
you want. That seems pre warlike to me.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's so important to have these discussions because I was
just talking to some friends a few weeks ago and
they were saying, you know, how would it even be
different if Donald Trump were president?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
How much different is foreign policy if you have one
president or another president. It's not that much different. No
understanding of sanctions, no understanding of how terror organizations had
in some areas totally disappeared because once you dry up
the money, I mean, terror is expensive. As crazy as

(27:33):
that sounds, to be a terrorist costs a lot of money.
This country has now let terrorists, people on the terror
watch list out in our own country. Yes, it matters,
It matters who is in the Oval office. It is
crucially important, not just for the United States but for
the entire world because the idea of peace through strength
is so critical.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, listen, you said it best. You're going to be
moonlighting now as a foreign policy I totally agree with you.
There is a massive difference and how the world perceived
the Trump administration versus how they perceive and how they
act under the Biden Harris administration. You just go in
theater after theater. Around the world, there's new wars, there's

(28:17):
new conflicts. Russia not only felt in boldened to attack
Ukraine despite pressure from the United States and assistance from
the United States, they have continued this war over two
years now against Ukraine, threatening other parts of Europe. You know,
this is when I hear President Biden say that he's
the one that stood up to Putin, I'm thinking, really,

(28:39):
it seems fine to me, right, right, The Russian economy
is not entire straits. You didn't stop the economy. You
didn't stop Russia from exporting their energy. So there's variations
on a theme here, right. So if you go to Venezuela,
there were Trump sanctions on Maduro because he had taken
away democracy in Venezuela. The Biden Harris administration said, people

(29:00):
remove those sanctions if you promise to have elections, so
they preemptively remove them before they had the elections. Now,
again this shouldn't surprise anybody, but what does the thug
and the dictator do. Well, he has elections that he rigs.
He did not win the elections. He made it seem
as he did. The United States is now obviously not
recognizing him as having won the elections, But the cat

(29:23):
is out of the bag, Tutor, because we already relieve
sanctions off of him in order to get him to
hold elections. Why would the guy, if you're a dictator
and you remove essentially democracy from your country so that
you can stay in power, why would you hold an
election that you could potentially lose. Did it occur to
anybody in the Biden Harris administration that maybe he would

(29:43):
hold an election that he would guarantee that he could win, Right,
It's not like you don't need to.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
This is what this is.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Honestly, this is what scares me about the future because
I think that we're talking about Biden, who did have
some foreign policy experience. This new ticket has got nothing.
And that's why it is so incredibly dangerous and so
crucial that we have people like you explaining it to us.
So I appreciate you coming on today because if I
really think that there are so many people that don't

(30:11):
know how to talk about this, and every time you've
been on it's been amazing because I just think that
you bring this into such clear detail for people who
don't deal with it. Every day, but there's a true
understanding after we hear from you, Morgan or Tegas, thank
you so much, thanks for having me absolutely and thank
you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
For this episode and others.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Go to Tutor dixonpodcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts and join us next
time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have a blessing.

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