November 11, 2024 • 32 mins
In this episode, Tudor and Ashley Hayek discuss the significant efforts of America First Works in building a grassroots ground game for the Trump campaign. They explore the diverse coalition that emerged, the importance of messaging, and strategies for future elections. The conversation highlights the engagement of various communities, particularly Hispanic voters and women, and emphasizes the need for ongoing efforts in election integrity and voter mobilization. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm excited today because we have Ashley Hayak with us.
She is the executive director of America First Works and
a former twenty twenty Trump campaign coalitions director. But you
might not even know what America First Works is because
it was working so hard for you with so many
different things. And that's why I wanted to bring Ashley
(00:22):
on today so that you could kind of brag on
what your organization has done.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We have a huge win.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We're all super excited and people are like, how did
it happen? And you know that, So welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, thank you for having me. And I think it's
incredible because we heard from the liberal media for months
that Trump had no ground game, Trump had no coalition,
Trump had nothing, and really we kept our head down
and it wasn't just you know, America First Works, but
it was Tea Party, Patriots, it was you know, amac Action,
it was you, Tutor, it was everybody. There was a
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group of us almost one hundred different organizations that were
working every single day, Hilaris with Morgan Artigas like every
single day just trying to make sure that we get
America forst messiging out, knocking on doors, sending text messages
into the battleground states and it paid off. And you know,
the greatest part is I think this is the greatest
coalition we've ever seen. And I think back to being
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at Madison Square Garden about a week before the election
and being backstage with Michael Harris, who's one of the
founders of Death Row Records who endorsed President Trump. And
I'm standing there with Michael and I'm looking there's Tulci
Gabbard in RFK and doctor phil and Hulk Cogan and
Elise Staphonic and all of these in Tiffany Justice from
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Mom's Liberty. There's all these amazing people and it's such
a diverse coalition. But it's not what the left ever
wants to talk about. They just want to call us all,
you know, sexist and racist.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, and it's not the coalition that they had. They
had a bunch of celebrities. I think they thought that
they were going to come out with these celebrities and
kind of pooh pooh the fact that Tulsea Gabbard was there,
even though she has not only experience as a congresswoman
and running for president, herself, but also military experience. Then
you have RFK, who is a Kennedy that comes over
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to our side. These are all political figures. These are
all people with government experience. They had people that don't
even have working class experience. They don't have middle class experience.
They don't understand the American people at all. That backfired.
But it wasn't just that. I mean, I think people
look at this and they're like, oh, there was like
this great magic of Trump going up against these celebrities
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and this fake campaign.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But it was a lot of work behind the scenes.
So how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Because there was a lot of discussion of no ground game,
but ground game sprung up over time, and I think
at first there was some concern that they have a
much stronger ground game. We as Republicans have not historically
had this and that's why you did this, correct, That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So we had a meeting on April third where we
pulled in all of the organizations and we wanted to
get a sense of who was going to do what where.
And this was around the time that the FEC, the
Federal Elections Commission, released a memo or a decision. I
guess it was more of an interpretation that now door
to door canvassing you can work with federal campaigns on
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It was not part of elections communications. So we just
wanted to get a very clear sense what is American
Principles project, What is Terry Shilling's group going to do?
You know, what is Moms for Liberty and Moms for
America going to do? What voters they are they going
to contact? And who's going to physically be on the
grounds And so what we learned is that a lot
of groups they don't necessarily have a ground infrastructure, which
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is fine. It was never really the expectation of outside
groups to have that role, but it was really an
opportunity for us to say, like, Okay, this is something
where we could be an added value to the conservative movement.
And it was helpful because a lot of groups were
doing the digital ads or doing text messaging. It kind
of laid the groundwork for us to send our door
knockers to the doors and have those conversations with people.
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So starting in June was when we started putting teams
on the GRI in the target states to do canvassing
in specific counties that we knew could ultimately determine the
future of the country.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And that was called Project nineteen.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So explain that because I think a lot of people
hear that and they're like, oh, this is another one
of those crazy things. But it was nineteen counties, and
then I think some people step back from that and go,
wait a minute, how do you win the presidency with
nineteen counties?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, it was very We try to be very intentional.
We're a three year old organization and so going from
a relatively unknown group and trying to raise funds for
this door knocking, door canvasing, can be expensive, so we
knew we had to be very intentional. Bucks County, Pennsylvania,
is a Bellweather county. They say where Bucks County goes,
the rest of the state goes, So we knew we
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needed to have an infrastructure there. We also knew in
Delaware County, in Montgomery County and Chester County there were
really key counties where there's density and you can run
up the school and we can you really successful and
it would also help the rest of the states. Same
with Alleghen County, which is where Pittsburgh is having teams there.
In Arizona, we focused on Maricopa County so each of
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those counties were, you know, where we wanted to make
sure that we had a very strong presence, and we
also went to places that were really a little unconventional.
So for example, we had a team in Wayne County,
specifically Dearborn, Deerborn Deerborn Heights in Hamtrak. They were twenty
air of American young men who were really upset with
how the direction of the country was going. They were
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mad that everything costs a lot more money. They were
upset with all of the transgender agenda being pushed in
the schools. That was a big issue in Dearborn and
with the books and everything in the schools, and it
was against their values. And so those boys, i mean
some of them knocked ten eleven, twelve thousand doors easily
between July and election Day. And that's I think. Also
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the fact that we started so early was just critical.
A lot of times conservative organizations wait until after Labor
Day to start doing their ground game. The only perception
to that that I've seen has been SBA list and
so building a permanent infrastructure where when a campaign is over,
it doesn't it's not just revolving around one person. This
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can live in perpetuity, and we can continue to do
that and continue to build relationships in these communities. We
started with nineteen counties. By the end of it, we
had forty seven counties that we were canvassing in.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Wow. So I find it interesting when you talk about
Hamtramck here in the in Michigan. We we went there,
we talked to the folks there, and what I think
is interesting, and I think it's.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Interesting for the entire country.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And maybe I'm giving something away to the Democrats, but
I've seen I've watched these sad sack Democrats go on
TV every day this week and be like.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
How could the country be so racist? How could the
country be so bad?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And instead of saying how can we come together, how
can we find our people and find out like what
are we missing? What is what messaging do we have wrong?
Like how can we shame them into coming back? And
how can we punish them? And I think that's kind
of the difference that people are now seeing between the
Republicans and the Democrats. The Republicans aren't the party of punishing.
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I mean, look at what Donald Trump went through. He
was viciously punished by the Democrats. But it's not just
Donald Trump. And that's what I don't think a lot
of people have realized, is that this goes beyond just
punishing the highest levels. Because the mayor of ham tramick
I was talking to him and he's like, you know,
we came out for the first time in twenty two
and supported your campaign here in Michigan, and then we
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realized the Republicans were really on our side. We're conservatives,
you know, and we don't like that agenda. So you
probably those of you listening, you've probably heard the story
about the Muslim mayor in Michigan who decided to ban
flags on city buildings. You could only have the city,
the state, or the US flag on city buildings, which
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obviously also means your schools. And the Democrats were very
mad about it. And he said, do you know that
for the decades that we have lived here in Michigan
and been Democrats, the Republicans have had control of the House,
in the State House, in the state Senate, and they
have never punished us. But the minute the Democrats got control,
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they pulled our funding. And we know it was because
of that decision, and that was a punishment. And I
think the Democrats are going to continue to do that.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I think you're exactly right. You know, our messaging at
the door was this is what America first policies look like.
We want you to have more money in your pocket,
we want you to have a prosperous life. We want
you to be able to pursue the American dream. You know,
we should be putting America first, not foreign countries. We
should have safe communities and safe boarders. It's really simple.
I mean one of our doorhanngers that we had was
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in the shape of California and it said, don't let
Kamala Harris, California are America. And that resonated so well
with so many people. And you see, especially after you know,
in twenty twenty one, when the borders were opened up,
when there was defending the police department, people felt unsafe
and people our country has not been prioritizing the American people.
(09:09):
I think there's no secret sauce. It's just that the
left once cannot get out of their own way when
it comes to wanting more power and control, and they
don't even recognize that they are now the party of
the corporate elite.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, and I think putting in America First doesn't necessarily
mean not being involved in the world. It means peace
and that was what resonated so much. I mean when
you look at some of these communities that came over
for the first time, and I would say in Michigan
we had that benefit of having the Arab community come
over for the first time really in a presidential election
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in a big way.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And it's interesting because not only did he win the.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Arab community, but he brought a lot of the Jewish
community over to it. It wasn't because he wanted war.
It was because he wants peace. And people are like, oh,
what a novel concept. When someone comes and talks about
they actually get votes. So I think that the messaging
has just changed. But I think it's also about no
longer being a politician, being a human going and talking
to them. This is the first time Donald Trump had
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been there. But also you're sending people there. So tell
us a little bit more about how America First works,
moves forward, goes for like what is the next step?
Because what I'm hearing on the ground here and I
think that this is what everybody's saying, Donald Trump is
an anomaly.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
This guy is a machine.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He's something different than we're ever going to see, something
different than we ever have seen, something different than we
will ever see. And that has to have some sort
of coattails. And that has to be that folks like
you at America First Works have to create those coattails.
So what happens going forward in twenty six You're going
to see some You're going to.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
See congressional races.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't know how many Senate races we have, but
you're going to see state races.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do you still work in those? What happens?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
So there's a couple of things. When we first were
going into the communities, we partnered with different organizations to
do community events or town halls, so there was a
framing and local media piece around the policies. First and foremost,
I think one of the things as conservatives we have
a little bit failed to do is not talk about
those solutions. And that was you know, Kamala Harris's biggest
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downfall was she kept talking about joy and vibes, but
she never said how is she going to fix the
economy or get more jobs or stop the crime, et cetera.
So because she had no solution, no one bought into
her vision, whereas on our side, on the conservative side,
we have solutions. We have a lot of solutions. And
so that was the first when we visited people three times.
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The first two times we talked about what issues are
most important to you, and we would follow up educating
them and advancing those policies. It wasn't until the third
visit did we start talking about the politics, which I
think is really important moving forward. We have to remember
that the first one hundred days of the new administration
are going to be absolutely critical, and we also know
that the establishment media is not going to be truthful
(12:03):
about the policies and what this president is going to do.
So we believe we have an obligation to continue the
relationships with the people in these communities and share with them. Okay,
you said when we visited your home that you care
about the border. Here's what this president is doing on
the border today.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And let's just do have that record of what each door,
what the conversations were at each door exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We had a survey that was completed, and then we
also did text messaging just based on policies. So now
we know what voters care about and we can deliver
those policies to people directly, and they're not getting misinformation
from the establishment media. So it's really I like to
look at this as business. I think if politics will
run more like business, we'd be a lot more efficient.
(12:48):
So there are customers, we know what they want, how
do we serve them, how do we provide good customer service?
And then how do you keep that customer? How do
you retain that customer and that low propencity voter. That
was what we really focused on is expanding that section.
So how do we keep them engaged and informed on
what's happening. And I think that that will continue to
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help us what in those mittrum elections and in the
first hundred days even more.
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Speaker 3 (14:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Stay tuned. We've got more right after this.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Like what is the next election that you will continue
to be involved in? Will you do any work in
twenty six or are you looking at another presidential I.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Think the FEC races or the FEC opinion was a
game changer for five to' one c fours because it
gave us a lot of freedom. So I think on
the House side and the Senate side would be, you know,
will definitely be involved in twenty twenty six, but I
think you have to aret laying that groundwork in twenty
twenty three. So that was I'm sorry, twenty twenty five.
That was what we did in twenty twenty three was
we started going into communities and looking at election integrity issues,
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looking at policy issues, having conversations to understand those communities first.
So then when it was election time, we're not just saying, hey,
we're an outside group that hasn't been in your community.
We're going to tell you what you think. We're actually
continuing to have conversations.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And I think that's that's been the concern when some
of these midterm races come, like there's not a group
that's coming in, there's no ground game moving.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Because there's no group that does this.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But like you said, the Democrats have done this historically
very well. But I think I wouldn't say historically, I mean,
let me let me couch that by saying I think
after twenty sixteen they were so shocked that they ended
up saying okay, We're going to put in all of
these different organizations that are going to do exactly what
your group is doing.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And then in the.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Meantime, they they kept those those groups active. So my
question to you is is that going to do the
Republicans understand that there is something special in Donald Trump
and that this has to be really reinforced.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This has to become bigger.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I believe so, I really really believe so. And I
think that was also what Elon Musk said when he
had the America Pack. When he launched that, he said,
this is not just about one person, this is about
growing this movement. So I think between the America Pack,
America First Works, and other organizations, I mean there's a
lot of really special organizations. For example, Hunter Nation. You
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know Hunter Nation their messaging targets specifically, you know gun owners, Hunters,
and they can deliver messages in a way that we
at America First Works cannot because we don't have the
same branding or surrogates. So how do we start?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
How are they calling teach Because you have some of
these groups that are in a way partners to you,
and so how do you work together with those groups?
Because I think that's what we've seen kind of with
the Arabella model on the Democrat side, is there's this
place where this money comes in, and then they sort
of say, Okay, you are going to talk to.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
This group and you're going to talk to that group.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And that had historically worked, and then I think they
got so off this time because obviously switching Biden out
at the last minute made them look like, obviously you
thought Biden was a bad guy, and you put him
in anyway, and then you picked this woman who you
has not been vetted. She doesn't know, she's been sitting
next to the White House having no idea what's happening, clearly,
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and that was all.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I think it was kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
The perfect storm. We had the perfect candidate. They had
the worst possible scenario. And so when you look at this,
what these individual groups that have partnered with you, what
did they do and how do you keep in touch?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Well, actually, I think you hit on a really important point.
People don't realize how divided the Democrat Party was. They
did not realize that there were so many fractures within
the party. And you look at you know, three days
after or two days after Kamala Harris got Joe Biden's
endorsement and Clinton's had endorsed her. Black Lives Matter put
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out a statement saying that there should be a mini primary.
I really believe that's what the Obamas wanted as well.
So there were so many and then you had, you know,
the Palestine Jewish fracture. Then you had this team Stress
who wouldn't endorse her. So there were so many different
divisions within the Democrat Party that you look at with
Black Americans, right, and the difference between men and women,
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and all of the issues. They had been so condescending,
calling masculinity toxic. That doesn't bode well with Hispanic men
or Black American men. And we saw all of those,
you know, different fractures happening across the party, and they
couldn't get together. I followed several of the liberal Instagram
accounts and they wouldn't even get behind They wouldn't even
endorse her until the weekend before the election. And this
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is the party that really counted on mail and early voting,
and they just didn't show up.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It was kind of amazing Trump's lead with Hispanic voters.
How did that outreach go? Because I remember early on
when in the spring, when we were all sitting together.
The Hispanic groups were saying, there's no ads, there's no
ads in Spanish. The Democrats have done such a great job.
How did that change in morph over time? And how
did we end up reaching out to those folks?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So a lot. We did a little bit of ground
game with that, We did some text messaging with that.
I know there were some other groups that were involved.
Babu Nonwey from Goya, CEO of Goya has been absolutely phenomenal.
He traveled all over the country. Hayesus Marquez and Nevada
was phenomenal. He was really organizing and mobilizing in Nevada.
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Van Venido had a very strong presence in Arizona. But
one of the groups that did a really phenomenal job
on the advertising part of this was Job Creator Network
with Alfred Martiz and they had significant advertisement and radio ads,
targeting and just you know, educating Hispanic voters. I think
that had a big impact and it was definitely a
big difference compared to the last election cycle. But this
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is something that we've been working on for the past
four years, is how do you continue to bring these
policies to Hispanic communities or you know, historically underserved or
ignored communities, and that's something I think we've just really
excelled at is making the conservative movement, the America First Movement,
big tent while they're, you know, in fighting on the
other side.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Would you say you were in all the swing states.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We were in all the swing states. Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And then if people want to get involved, what do
they do? How do they talk to you guys? How
do they keep this going? Is there like a program
that they can do locally?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, So if you go on America First works dot com,
you can sign up to volunteer, and depending upon your community,
we could plug you in. One thing that was really
important for us was to have real conversations with people
through text messaging. So we had about fifty volunteers who
literally just replied to text messages after we deploy them.
And it's funny because if you all of us get
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a million text messages around, you know, political election season,
and some people would reply with FU and our team
would say, We're so sorry to bother you. We just
wanted to make sure you knew your polling place and
see if you're planning to vote early, And they would say,
oh my gosh, this is a real person. I can't
believe it, and then they would have a conversation with us.
So changing the game again providing that service. So there
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are volunteers who do that for us. We're still doing canvassing,
we're doing follow up, and we'll continue to do that
early into next year. So America First Works is where
to get involved?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
How much does an operation like this cost? I mean,
we know that there's billions of dollars that went into
this cycle, and we had heard.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That there was a group here and a group there.
But how much were you able?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I mean you were very young, Like you said, you're
like a toddler organization three years old. It started out
as like a couple million dollars. So how over time
did you how much did you end up having to
bring in and then deploy in this in this race?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So we started with every year it was about a
two million dollar organization. Our goal initially was about ten
million dollars for this effort. When we needed to expand
our counties and do more of a ground game, we
increased our budget and we raised about thirty five million dollars.
And so that was for all of our target states,
all of our work, and I think we were very
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efficient making sure that we had the highest return on
investment for our donors. And one thing that was also
really important to us was if we saw you know,
Faith and Freedom storehanger and America pack storehanger, we would
go back and look at our universes. And then that's
how why we ended up expanding into some other counties.
Cobb County was like really oversaturated, so it doesn't make
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sense for us to keep going to Cobb County if
there are three or four groups that are already there.
So having that data share in place with the different
groups was a game changer for us.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
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Speaker 1 (24:01):
What do you talk about faith and freedom?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I know we were talking about how do we
get Christians out, how do we get some of these
other groups out?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You talked about Hunter Nation.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
What do you think was the what were some of
the key groups that hadn't really been hadn't really had
that conversation about coming out to vote that you guys
were able to reach in a different way and push
out there.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That really made a change in this election.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I think it was conservative women and moms. I think
Riley Gaines did a lot of that work too. The
title nine transgender attack on girls and women was a
game changer. Going into election day. There were five hundred
over five hundred thousand less liberal women who had voted
compared to twenty twenty in the battleground states. Over half
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a million in the battleground states. They were underwater in Pennsylvania,
they were underwater in most of the states. And then
I mean, how can you tell women for four years
you're not a woman? What is a woman? You can't
be safe. You have Lake and Riley issues. You have
women getting smashed in the face of the volleyball and
the Democrats are saying it's okay. And for all of
these women to show up for you, I think that
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was the biggest surprise that I saw, was with women
and parents. So that was pretty phenomenal. The other group
I thought that was really interesting was the MAHA group,
and that was led by amoryalist Fox Kennedy RFK Junior's
daughter in law and her ability to bring awareness to
you know, red food coloring and you know food security
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that is a game changer, especially for suburban women, and
how so unaffordable for more people to have access to healthy,
fresh foods.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We've talked about that so many times, about just the
poisons that We've had so many people on here that
have talked about the food coloring, especially just the problems
that can cause with children with ticks. All of this,
and moms are suddenly going, man, does my kid actually
have a problem or is my child being poisoned and
you don't even know about it? And I think that
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was a big mover for women. Oddly enough, the only
demographic that did not move toward Trump at all was
very wealthy white women, which I think is very interesting
because I mean, people have made the comment that white
women use the oppression like very wealthy liberal white women
use the oppression of others as like a.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Louis vuittone bag, like oh.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I feel bad for this, like this is I feel
their victimhood and it's all fake. And I just kind
of wonder if that was created with this mainstream media
that is pushing the operas of the world and the
j Lo's of the world and all of these people
that came out for her, that were like outrageously wealthy
(26:42):
and saying like, we know what the country needs, and
people are going, how the heck do you know what
the country needs? You flew here on your own jet
and you're staying in your seventh home. You know, it's like,
how could you possibly know? And then you see all
of these other demographics move toward Trump. I wonder if
those women will come out again, if those white women,
(27:06):
those wealthy white women will change over time.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
But also, there wasn't one other weird thing that I
wanted to ask you about.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Because we saw this like massive amount of people that
came out for Joe Biden in twenty twenty, We said,
how did over eighty million people come out for Joe Biden?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Fifteen million Democrats were missing.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Suddenly I saw those posts that one of these one
guy posts. He was like, America's pastors have all gotten
together to discuss the real possibility that the rapture occurred,
because we lost fifteen million Democrats overnight, and it's like,
what did happen?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I mean, are people looking at that and saying what happened?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah? Well, Kelly and Conway tweeted this morning the hidden
Kamala Harris voter is still hidden because I mean, it's
just it's not there. But there's two things. Number One,
we saw just the total lack of enthusiasm and just
from the left and from her. And it was interesting
because we saw like, oh, there's a movement of women
for Kamala Harris. That was the news rapport on Thursday
(28:07):
and Friday going into the weekend before the election. And
that's when our team sat down and started doing the
data and realized, no, it's not they actually have less
women voters today than before. And then the second thing
that I thought was really interesting was on the day
of the election, they said there was going to be
historic one hundred and fifty percent turnout in Philadelphia for
Kamala Harris, and it did it in order for her
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to be as successful. In order for Philadelphia to have
carried the state at that point, she would have had
to receive like one hundred percent voter turnout, receive every
single Democrat vote, every single independent vote, and at least
twenty to forty thousand Republican votes. So the math wasn't there.
And so that is just like the liberal media gaslighting
(28:52):
us again into believing something that wasn't true. I also
think we saw a big increase in veterans because her
vice president pick was a pathological liar who did not
serve the way that he said he was. It was
stolen valor, and I still hope he's held accountable for that.
But you know, the list of this goes on and
on and on, and quite frankly, Tutor, they cheated last time,
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and I think we need to recognize that there was
a completely different election integrity operation in twenty twenty four
as opposed to twenty twenty. Laura Trump and Michael Wattley
were so on top of it and every time we
would see something, we would flag it and within five
minutes there was a lawsuit. And it wasn't because of us,
they were already in the process of doing it. So
I mean, they absolutely cheated in twenty twenty There's no
(29:36):
doubt in my mind, and the numbers I think show that.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, we are so impressed with what you guys were
able to do. Honestly, I think it was when you
said people were questioning the ground game. I think it
was because it was the biggest concern, and you mentioned
the RNC. Totally different situation because they weren't even allowed
to play in elections back in twenty twenty and then
everything changed and they were in involved in twenty four
(30:01):
in a major way and that just changed everything about
this election. But for people who are concerned about going forward,
and they're like, Okay, now we have this, this was created,
but how do we keep it?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
How do they give how do they get involved?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, go to America first works dot com. We'll get
you involved. Well, we're going to still do door knocking,
We're still doing text messaging. There's so much opportunity, especially
there's short term and long term. The first hundred days
of a new administration, we're going to have to make
sure we're getting the word out about the policies. And
then long term is what does this look like going
up to twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight. So
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lots of opportunity across the board for all the coalition work,
all the ground games. So and just thank you so much.
We've loved partnering with you two tutor, and I'm excited
for the best is yet to come. As the president.
You still always say.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That's right exactly, that's the beauty of it. And you know,
it's so funny because my daughter came home the other
day and she was like, the best is yet to come,
and I'm like, that is a that's catchy when you
have a thirteen year old saying that to you. But
I think the whole country just well obviously not the
whole country, but an overwhelming majority of the country has
sighed a sigh of relief over the torture that we've
(31:10):
been through for the last four years. I mean even
looking at the economy and how things are already changing,
just outlooks and everything, and I mean it just is, oh,
thank goodness, yeah, thank goodness. It was such an overwhelming victory.
And I know everybody said it has to be too
big to rig, and that is what America First Works
was all about making sure it was too big to rig,
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making sure that we got as many voters out as
we could, and those low propensity voters as people that
you knew that don't vote every time, but you know
they care, and you guys got to them. So we
are so grateful to you for what you did, because
it is amazing to go the popular vote, the electoral college,
Like there is no denying this was a massive win.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
We're going to do it big. It's big Lee. We
did it. You guys did it.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And Ashley Ashley Hyek. If you guys need to find her,
look her up. She's amazing. Thank you so much for
being on, Thank you for having me absolutely, and thank
you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
As always, for this episode and others, go to Tutor
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Speaker 1 (32:22):
Have a blessing.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm excited today because we have Ashley Hayak with us.
She is the executive director of America First Works and
a former twenty twenty Trump campaign coalitions director. But you
might not even know what America First Works is because
it was working so hard for you with so many
different things. And that's why I wanted to bring Ashley
(00:22):
on today so that you could kind of brag on
what your organization has done.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We have a huge win.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We're all super excited and people are like, how did
it happen? And you know that, So welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, thank you for having me. And I think it's
incredible because we heard from the liberal media for months
that Trump had no ground game, Trump had no coalition,
Trump had nothing, and really we kept our head down
and it wasn't just you know, America First Works, but
it was Tea Party, Patriots, it was you know, amac Action,
it was you, Tutor, it was everybody. There was a
(00:55):
group of us almost one hundred different organizations that were
working every single day, Hilaris with Morgan Artigas like every
single day just trying to make sure that we get
America forst messiging out, knocking on doors, sending text messages
into the battleground states and it paid off. And you know,
the greatest part is I think this is the greatest
coalition we've ever seen. And I think back to being
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at Madison Square Garden about a week before the election
and being backstage with Michael Harris, who's one of the
founders of Death Row Records who endorsed President Trump. And
I'm standing there with Michael and I'm looking there's Tulci
Gabbard in RFK and doctor phil and Hulk Cogan and
Elise Staphonic and all of these in Tiffany Justice from
(01:40):
Mom's Liberty. There's all these amazing people and it's such
a diverse coalition. But it's not what the left ever
wants to talk about. They just want to call us all,
you know, sexist and racist.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, and it's not the coalition that they had. They
had a bunch of celebrities. I think they thought that
they were going to come out with these celebrities and
kind of pooh pooh the fact that Tulsea Gabbard was there,
even though she has not only experience as a congresswoman
and running for president, herself, but also military experience. Then
you have RFK, who is a Kennedy that comes over
(02:09):
to our side. These are all political figures. These are
all people with government experience. They had people that don't
even have working class experience. They don't have middle class experience.
They don't understand the American people at all. That backfired.
But it wasn't just that. I mean, I think people
look at this and they're like, oh, there was like
this great magic of Trump going up against these celebrities
(02:31):
and this fake campaign.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But it was a lot of work behind the scenes.
So how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Because there was a lot of discussion of no ground game,
but ground game sprung up over time, and I think
at first there was some concern that they have a
much stronger ground game. We as Republicans have not historically
had this and that's why you did this, correct, That's right.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So we had a meeting on April third where we
pulled in all of the organizations and we wanted to
get a sense of who was going to do what where.
And this was around the time that the FEC, the
Federal Elections Commission, released a memo or a decision. I
guess it was more of an interpretation that now door
to door canvassing you can work with federal campaigns on
(03:13):
It was not part of elections communications. So we just
wanted to get a very clear sense what is American
Principles project, What is Terry Shilling's group going to do?
You know, what is Moms for Liberty and Moms for
America going to do? What voters they are they going
to contact? And who's going to physically be on the
grounds And so what we learned is that a lot
of groups they don't necessarily have a ground infrastructure, which
(03:33):
is fine. It was never really the expectation of outside
groups to have that role, but it was really an
opportunity for us to say, like, Okay, this is something
where we could be an added value to the conservative movement.
And it was helpful because a lot of groups were
doing the digital ads or doing text messaging. It kind
of laid the groundwork for us to send our door
knockers to the doors and have those conversations with people.
(03:56):
So starting in June was when we started putting teams
on the GRI in the target states to do canvassing
in specific counties that we knew could ultimately determine the
future of the country.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And that was called Project nineteen.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So explain that because I think a lot of people
hear that and they're like, oh, this is another one
of those crazy things. But it was nineteen counties, and
then I think some people step back from that and go,
wait a minute, how do you win the presidency with
nineteen counties?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, it was very We try to be very intentional.
We're a three year old organization and so going from
a relatively unknown group and trying to raise funds for
this door knocking, door canvasing, can be expensive, so we
knew we had to be very intentional. Bucks County, Pennsylvania,
is a Bellweather county. They say where Bucks County goes,
the rest of the state goes, So we knew we
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needed to have an infrastructure there. We also knew in
Delaware County, in Montgomery County and Chester County there were
really key counties where there's density and you can run
up the school and we can you really successful and
it would also help the rest of the states. Same
with Alleghen County, which is where Pittsburgh is having teams there.
In Arizona, we focused on Maricopa County so each of
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those counties were, you know, where we wanted to make
sure that we had a very strong presence, and we
also went to places that were really a little unconventional.
So for example, we had a team in Wayne County,
specifically Dearborn, Deerborn Deerborn Heights in Hamtrak. They were twenty
air of American young men who were really upset with
how the direction of the country was going. They were
(05:28):
mad that everything costs a lot more money. They were
upset with all of the transgender agenda being pushed in
the schools. That was a big issue in Dearborn and
with the books and everything in the schools, and it
was against their values. And so those boys, i mean
some of them knocked ten eleven, twelve thousand doors easily
between July and election Day. And that's I think. Also
(05:50):
the fact that we started so early was just critical.
A lot of times conservative organizations wait until after Labor
Day to start doing their ground game. The only perception
to that that I've seen has been SBA list and
so building a permanent infrastructure where when a campaign is over,
it doesn't it's not just revolving around one person. This
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can live in perpetuity, and we can continue to do
that and continue to build relationships in these communities. We
started with nineteen counties. By the end of it, we
had forty seven counties that we were canvassing in.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Wow. So I find it interesting when you talk about
Hamtramck here in the in Michigan. We we went there,
we talked to the folks there, and what I think
is interesting, and I think it's.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Interesting for the entire country.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And maybe I'm giving something away to the Democrats, but
I've seen I've watched these sad sack Democrats go on
TV every day this week and be like.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
How could the country be so racist? How could the
country be so bad?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And instead of saying how can we come together, how
can we find our people and find out like what
are we missing? What is what messaging do we have wrong?
Like how can we shame them into coming back? And
how can we punish them? And I think that's kind
of the difference that people are now seeing between the
Republicans and the Democrats. The Republicans aren't the party of punishing.
(07:08):
I mean, look at what Donald Trump went through. He
was viciously punished by the Democrats. But it's not just
Donald Trump. And that's what I don't think a lot
of people have realized, is that this goes beyond just
punishing the highest levels. Because the mayor of ham tramick
I was talking to him and he's like, you know,
we came out for the first time in twenty two
and supported your campaign here in Michigan, and then we
(07:32):
realized the Republicans were really on our side. We're conservatives,
you know, and we don't like that agenda. So you
probably those of you listening, you've probably heard the story
about the Muslim mayor in Michigan who decided to ban
flags on city buildings. You could only have the city,
the state, or the US flag on city buildings, which
(07:52):
obviously also means your schools. And the Democrats were very
mad about it. And he said, do you know that
for the decades that we have lived here in Michigan
and been Democrats, the Republicans have had control of the House,
in the State House, in the state Senate, and they
have never punished us. But the minute the Democrats got control,
(08:15):
they pulled our funding. And we know it was because
of that decision, and that was a punishment. And I
think the Democrats are going to continue to do that.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I think you're exactly right. You know, our messaging at
the door was this is what America first policies look like.
We want you to have more money in your pocket,
we want you to have a prosperous life. We want
you to be able to pursue the American dream. You know,
we should be putting America first, not foreign countries. We
should have safe communities and safe boarders. It's really simple.
I mean one of our doorhanngers that we had was
(08:45):
in the shape of California and it said, don't let
Kamala Harris, California are America. And that resonated so well
with so many people. And you see, especially after you know,
in twenty twenty one, when the borders were opened up,
when there was defending the police department, people felt unsafe
and people our country has not been prioritizing the American people.
(09:09):
I think there's no secret sauce. It's just that the
left once cannot get out of their own way when
it comes to wanting more power and control, and they
don't even recognize that they are now the party of
the corporate elite.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, and I think putting in America First doesn't necessarily
mean not being involved in the world. It means peace
and that was what resonated so much. I mean when
you look at some of these communities that came over
for the first time, and I would say in Michigan
we had that benefit of having the Arab community come
over for the first time really in a presidential election
(09:44):
in a big way.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And it's interesting because not only did he win the.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Arab community, but he brought a lot of the Jewish
community over to it. It wasn't because he wanted war.
It was because he wants peace. And people are like, oh,
what a novel concept. When someone comes and talks about
they actually get votes. So I think that the messaging
has just changed. But I think it's also about no
longer being a politician, being a human going and talking
to them. This is the first time Donald Trump had
(10:11):
been there. But also you're sending people there. So tell
us a little bit more about how America First works,
moves forward, goes for like what is the next step?
Because what I'm hearing on the ground here and I
think that this is what everybody's saying, Donald Trump is
an anomaly.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
This guy is a machine.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He's something different than we're ever going to see, something
different than we ever have seen, something different than we
will ever see. And that has to have some sort
of coattails. And that has to be that folks like
you at America First Works have to create those coattails.
So what happens going forward in twenty six You're going
to see some You're going to.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
See congressional races.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't know how many Senate races we have, but
you're going to see state races.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do you still work in those? What happens?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
So there's a couple of things. When we first were
going into the communities, we partnered with different organizations to
do community events or town halls, so there was a
framing and local media piece around the policies. First and foremost,
I think one of the things as conservatives we have
a little bit failed to do is not talk about
those solutions. And that was you know, Kamala Harris's biggest
(11:18):
downfall was she kept talking about joy and vibes, but
she never said how is she going to fix the
economy or get more jobs or stop the crime, et cetera.
So because she had no solution, no one bought into
her vision, whereas on our side, on the conservative side,
we have solutions. We have a lot of solutions. And
so that was the first when we visited people three times.
(11:40):
The first two times we talked about what issues are
most important to you, and we would follow up educating
them and advancing those policies. It wasn't until the third
visit did we start talking about the politics, which I
think is really important moving forward. We have to remember
that the first one hundred days of the new administration
are going to be absolutely critical, and we also know
that the establishment media is not going to be truthful
(12:03):
about the policies and what this president is going to do.
So we believe we have an obligation to continue the
relationships with the people in these communities and share with them. Okay,
you said when we visited your home that you care
about the border. Here's what this president is doing on
the border today.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And let's just do have that record of what each door,
what the conversations were at each door exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We had a survey that was completed, and then we
also did text messaging just based on policies. So now
we know what voters care about and we can deliver
those policies to people directly, and they're not getting misinformation
from the establishment media. So it's really I like to
look at this as business. I think if politics will
run more like business, we'd be a lot more efficient.
(12:48):
So there are customers, we know what they want, how
do we serve them, how do we provide good customer service?
And then how do you keep that customer? How do
you retain that customer and that low propencity voter. That
was what we really focused on is expanding that section.
So how do we keep them engaged and informed on
what's happening. And I think that that will continue to
(13:09):
help us what in those mittrum elections and in the
first hundred days even more.
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Speaker 3 (14:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Stay tuned. We've got more right after this.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Like what is the next election that you will continue
to be involved in? Will you do any work in
twenty six or are you looking at another presidential I.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Think the FEC races or the FEC opinion was a
game changer for five to' one c fours because it
gave us a lot of freedom. So I think on
the House side and the Senate side would be, you know,
will definitely be involved in twenty twenty six, but I
think you have to aret laying that groundwork in twenty
twenty three. So that was I'm sorry, twenty twenty five.
That was what we did in twenty twenty three was
we started going into communities and looking at election integrity issues,
(15:10):
looking at policy issues, having conversations to understand those communities first.
So then when it was election time, we're not just saying, hey,
we're an outside group that hasn't been in your community.
We're going to tell you what you think. We're actually
continuing to have conversations.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And I think that's that's been the concern when some
of these midterm races come, like there's not a group
that's coming in, there's no ground game moving.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Because there's no group that does this.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But like you said, the Democrats have done this historically
very well. But I think I wouldn't say historically, I mean,
let me let me couch that by saying I think
after twenty sixteen they were so shocked that they ended
up saying okay, We're going to put in all of
these different organizations that are going to do exactly what
your group is doing.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And then in the.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Meantime, they they kept those those groups active. So my
question to you is is that going to do the
Republicans understand that there is something special in Donald Trump
and that this has to be really reinforced.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This has to become bigger.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I believe so, I really really believe so. And I
think that was also what Elon Musk said when he
had the America Pack. When he launched that, he said,
this is not just about one person, this is about
growing this movement. So I think between the America Pack,
America First Works, and other organizations, I mean there's a
lot of really special organizations. For example, Hunter Nation. You
(16:34):
know Hunter Nation their messaging targets specifically, you know gun owners, Hunters,
and they can deliver messages in a way that we
at America First Works cannot because we don't have the
same branding or surrogates. So how do we start?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
How are they calling teach Because you have some of
these groups that are in a way partners to you,
and so how do you work together with those groups?
Because I think that's what we've seen kind of with
the Arabella model on the Democrat side, is there's this
place where this money comes in, and then they sort
of say, Okay, you are going to talk to.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
This group and you're going to talk to that group.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And that had historically worked, and then I think they
got so off this time because obviously switching Biden out
at the last minute made them look like, obviously you
thought Biden was a bad guy, and you put him
in anyway, and then you picked this woman who you
has not been vetted. She doesn't know, she's been sitting
next to the White House having no idea what's happening, clearly,
(17:27):
and that was all.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I think it was kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
The perfect storm. We had the perfect candidate. They had
the worst possible scenario. And so when you look at this,
what these individual groups that have partnered with you, what
did they do and how do you keep in touch?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Well, actually, I think you hit on a really important point.
People don't realize how divided the Democrat Party was. They
did not realize that there were so many fractures within
the party. And you look at you know, three days
after or two days after Kamala Harris got Joe Biden's
endorsement and Clinton's had endorsed her. Black Lives Matter put
(18:03):
out a statement saying that there should be a mini primary.
I really believe that's what the Obamas wanted as well.
So there were so many and then you had, you know,
the Palestine Jewish fracture. Then you had this team Stress
who wouldn't endorse her. So there were so many different
divisions within the Democrat Party that you look at with
Black Americans, right, and the difference between men and women,
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and all of the issues. They had been so condescending,
calling masculinity toxic. That doesn't bode well with Hispanic men
or Black American men. And we saw all of those,
you know, different fractures happening across the party, and they
couldn't get together. I followed several of the liberal Instagram
accounts and they wouldn't even get behind They wouldn't even
endorse her until the weekend before the election. And this
(18:48):
is the party that really counted on mail and early voting,
and they just didn't show up.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It was kind of amazing Trump's lead with Hispanic voters.
How did that outreach go? Because I remember early on
when in the spring, when we were all sitting together.
The Hispanic groups were saying, there's no ads, there's no
ads in Spanish. The Democrats have done such a great job.
How did that change in morph over time? And how
did we end up reaching out to those folks?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
So a lot. We did a little bit of ground
game with that, We did some text messaging with that.
I know there were some other groups that were involved.
Babu Nonwey from Goya, CEO of Goya has been absolutely phenomenal.
He traveled all over the country. Hayesus Marquez and Nevada
was phenomenal. He was really organizing and mobilizing in Nevada.
(19:35):
Van Venido had a very strong presence in Arizona. But
one of the groups that did a really phenomenal job
on the advertising part of this was Job Creator Network
with Alfred Martiz and they had significant advertisement and radio ads,
targeting and just you know, educating Hispanic voters. I think
that had a big impact and it was definitely a
big difference compared to the last election cycle. But this
(19:57):
is something that we've been working on for the past
four years, is how do you continue to bring these
policies to Hispanic communities or you know, historically underserved or
ignored communities, and that's something I think we've just really
excelled at is making the conservative movement, the America First Movement,
big tent while they're, you know, in fighting on the
other side.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Would you say you were in all the swing states.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We were in all the swing states. Yes.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And then if people want to get involved, what do
they do? How do they talk to you guys? How
do they keep this going? Is there like a program
that they can do locally?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, So if you go on America First works dot com,
you can sign up to volunteer, and depending upon your community,
we could plug you in. One thing that was really
important for us was to have real conversations with people
through text messaging. So we had about fifty volunteers who
literally just replied to text messages after we deploy them.
And it's funny because if you all of us get
(20:52):
a million text messages around, you know, political election season,
and some people would reply with FU and our team
would say, We're so sorry to bother you. We just
wanted to make sure you knew your polling place and
see if you're planning to vote early, And they would say,
oh my gosh, this is a real person. I can't
believe it, and then they would have a conversation with us.
So changing the game again providing that service. So there
(21:14):
are volunteers who do that for us. We're still doing canvassing,
we're doing follow up, and we'll continue to do that
early into next year. So America First Works is where
to get involved?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
How much does an operation like this cost? I mean,
we know that there's billions of dollars that went into
this cycle, and we had heard.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That there was a group here and a group there.
But how much were you able?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I mean you were very young, Like you said, you're
like a toddler organization three years old. It started out
as like a couple million dollars. So how over time
did you how much did you end up having to
bring in and then deploy in this in this race?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So we started with every year it was about a
two million dollar organization. Our goal initially was about ten
million dollars for this effort. When we needed to expand
our counties and do more of a ground game, we
increased our budget and we raised about thirty five million dollars.
And so that was for all of our target states,
all of our work, and I think we were very
(22:11):
efficient making sure that we had the highest return on
investment for our donors. And one thing that was also
really important to us was if we saw you know,
Faith and Freedom storehanger and America pack storehanger, we would
go back and look at our universes. And then that's
how why we ended up expanding into some other counties.
Cobb County was like really oversaturated, so it doesn't make
(22:32):
sense for us to keep going to Cobb County if
there are three or four groups that are already there.
So having that data share in place with the different
groups was a game changer for us.
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Speaker 1 (24:01):
What do you talk about faith and freedom?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I know we were talking about how do we
get Christians out, how do we get some of these
other groups out?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You talked about Hunter Nation.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
What do you think was the what were some of
the key groups that hadn't really been hadn't really had
that conversation about coming out to vote that you guys
were able to reach in a different way and push
out there.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That really made a change in this election.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I think it was conservative women and moms. I think
Riley Gaines did a lot of that work too. The
title nine transgender attack on girls and women was a
game changer. Going into election day. There were five hundred
over five hundred thousand less liberal women who had voted
compared to twenty twenty in the battleground states. Over half
(24:44):
a million in the battleground states. They were underwater in Pennsylvania,
they were underwater in most of the states. And then
I mean, how can you tell women for four years
you're not a woman? What is a woman? You can't
be safe. You have Lake and Riley issues. You have
women getting smashed in the face of the volleyball and
the Democrats are saying it's okay. And for all of
these women to show up for you, I think that
(25:05):
was the biggest surprise that I saw, was with women
and parents. So that was pretty phenomenal. The other group
I thought that was really interesting was the MAHA group,
and that was led by amoryalist Fox Kennedy RFK Junior's
daughter in law and her ability to bring awareness to
you know, red food coloring and you know food security
(25:29):
that is a game changer, especially for suburban women, and
how so unaffordable for more people to have access to healthy,
fresh foods.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We've talked about that so many times, about just the
poisons that We've had so many people on here that
have talked about the food coloring, especially just the problems
that can cause with children with ticks. All of this,
and moms are suddenly going, man, does my kid actually
have a problem or is my child being poisoned and
you don't even know about it? And I think that
(25:58):
was a big mover for women. Oddly enough, the only
demographic that did not move toward Trump at all was
very wealthy white women, which I think is very interesting
because I mean, people have made the comment that white
women use the oppression like very wealthy liberal white women
use the oppression of others as like a.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Louis vuittone bag, like oh.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I feel bad for this, like this is I feel
their victimhood and it's all fake. And I just kind
of wonder if that was created with this mainstream media
that is pushing the operas of the world and the
j Lo's of the world and all of these people
that came out for her, that were like outrageously wealthy
(26:42):
and saying like, we know what the country needs, and
people are going, how the heck do you know what
the country needs? You flew here on your own jet
and you're staying in your seventh home. You know, it's like,
how could you possibly know? And then you see all
of these other demographics move toward Trump. I wonder if
those women will come out again, if those white women,
(27:06):
those wealthy white women will change over time.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
But also, there wasn't one other weird thing that I
wanted to ask you about.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Because we saw this like massive amount of people that
came out for Joe Biden in twenty twenty, We said,
how did over eighty million people come out for Joe Biden?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Fifteen million Democrats were missing.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Suddenly I saw those posts that one of these one
guy posts. He was like, America's pastors have all gotten
together to discuss the real possibility that the rapture occurred,
because we lost fifteen million Democrats overnight, and it's like,
what did happen?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I mean, are people looking at that and saying what happened?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah? Well, Kelly and Conway tweeted this morning the hidden
Kamala Harris voter is still hidden because I mean, it's
just it's not there. But there's two things. Number One,
we saw just the total lack of enthusiasm and just
from the left and from her. And it was interesting
because we saw like, oh, there's a movement of women
for Kamala Harris. That was the news rapport on Thursday
(28:07):
and Friday going into the weekend before the election. And
that's when our team sat down and started doing the
data and realized, no, it's not they actually have less
women voters today than before. And then the second thing
that I thought was really interesting was on the day
of the election, they said there was going to be
historic one hundred and fifty percent turnout in Philadelphia for
Kamala Harris, and it did it in order for her
(28:30):
to be as successful. In order for Philadelphia to have
carried the state at that point, she would have had
to receive like one hundred percent voter turnout, receive every
single Democrat vote, every single independent vote, and at least
twenty to forty thousand Republican votes. So the math wasn't there.
And so that is just like the liberal media gaslighting
(28:52):
us again into believing something that wasn't true. I also
think we saw a big increase in veterans because her
vice president pick was a pathological liar who did not
serve the way that he said he was. It was
stolen valor, and I still hope he's held accountable for that.
But you know, the list of this goes on and
on and on, and quite frankly, Tutor, they cheated last time,
(29:13):
and I think we need to recognize that there was
a completely different election integrity operation in twenty twenty four
as opposed to twenty twenty. Laura Trump and Michael Wattley
were so on top of it and every time we
would see something, we would flag it and within five
minutes there was a lawsuit. And it wasn't because of us,
they were already in the process of doing it. So
I mean, they absolutely cheated in twenty twenty There's no
(29:36):
doubt in my mind, and the numbers I think show that.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, we are so impressed with what you guys were
able to do. Honestly, I think it was when you
said people were questioning the ground game. I think it
was because it was the biggest concern, and you mentioned
the RNC. Totally different situation because they weren't even allowed
to play in elections back in twenty twenty and then
everything changed and they were in involved in twenty four
(30:01):
in a major way and that just changed everything about
this election. But for people who are concerned about going forward,
and they're like, Okay, now we have this, this was created,
but how do we keep it?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
How do they give how do they get involved?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, go to America first works dot com. We'll get
you involved. Well, we're going to still do door knocking,
We're still doing text messaging. There's so much opportunity, especially
there's short term and long term. The first hundred days
of a new administration, we're going to have to make
sure we're getting the word out about the policies. And
then long term is what does this look like going
up to twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight. So
(30:36):
lots of opportunity across the board for all the coalition work,
all the ground games. So and just thank you so much.
We've loved partnering with you two tutor, and I'm excited
for the best is yet to come. As the president.
You still always say.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That's right exactly, that's the beauty of it. And you know,
it's so funny because my daughter came home the other
day and she was like, the best is yet to come,
and I'm like, that is a that's catchy when you
have a thirteen year old saying that to you. But
I think the whole country just well obviously not the
whole country, but an overwhelming majority of the country has
sighed a sigh of relief over the torture that we've
(31:10):
been through for the last four years. I mean even
looking at the economy and how things are already changing,
just outlooks and everything, and I mean it just is, oh,
thank goodness, yeah, thank goodness. It was such an overwhelming victory.
And I know everybody said it has to be too
big to rig, and that is what America First Works
was all about making sure it was too big to rig,
(31:32):
making sure that we got as many voters out as
we could, and those low propensity voters as people that
you knew that don't vote every time, but you know
they care, and you guys got to them. So we
are so grateful to you for what you did, because
it is amazing to go the popular vote, the electoral college,
Like there is no denying this was a massive win.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
We're going to do it big. It's big Lee. We
did it. You guys did it.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And Ashley Ashley Hyek. If you guys need to find her,
look her up. She's amazing. Thank you so much for
being on, Thank you for having me absolutely, and thank
you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
As always, for this episode and others, go to Tutor
Dixon podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
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Speaker 1 (32:22):
Have a blessing.
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