August 12, 2024 • 33 mins
In this episode, Tudor and Minnesota State Representative Lisa Demuth critically examine the governance of Minnesota's Governor Tim Walz. They discuss his progressive policies, fiscal management, and their impact on residents. Key topics include the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, budgetary concerns, tax increases, and the implications of welfare and education programs. The conversation highlights issues of fraud and lack of accountability within Walz's administration. Drawing parallels with Michigan, they emphasize the challenges faced by both states under Democratic leadership and call for greater accountability and fiscal responsibility. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more info visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Well, today, as we're
watching the media try to pay Tim Waltz, the governor
of Minnesota, as this jovial, moderate Midwestern dad, coach, teacher,
this guy who gets all things done, I wanted to
actually bring someone in who knows his real track record
in the state of Minnesota. Lisa Dmouth is a Minnesota
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state representative and the current House Minority Leader who's worked
with Governor Waltz since two thy eighteen, and they were
both elected to their current positions at that time. Thank
you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Thank you very much, Tutor. It's good to be with you,
and I really look forward to this conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm me too. We were chatting a little bit about
what's gone on in Minnesota. It's so similar to what's
happened in Michigan, which makes sense because Gretchen Whitmer, the
governor of Michigan, was just out saying she loved Governor
Waltz because they've been kind of competing on progressive policies
for several years now. They were elected also, she was
also elected in twenty eighteen, so they've been watching each
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other and trying to out progressive each other, I guess,
and I honestly think people don't know how progressive he is.
We've talked on the podcast about his connection to China,
and that's why we wanted to go into Minnesota and say, Okay,
we're going to give you the chance to tell us
exactly what's happening there. One of the things you were
talking about was the budget. To me, this is terrifying
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because it's very similar in Michigan, these record budgets, these
COVID surpluses that were just thrown away, and now a
raising of taxes. Same in Michigan. She raised our taxes here.
That should be a red flag to anyone. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And financially, you know, even under the Biden Harris ticket,
everything in the country is more expensive. So when you
bring it down to the state level, and we are
on an unsustainable path, And just so your viewers actually
can hear this, we came into January twenty twenty three,
and although I've served in the legislature elected than eighteen
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and started serving in twenty nineteen, this was my first
session as Minority leader in the House or Republican leader
in the House. So when we came in in twenty
twenty three full Democrat control. The other two sessions that
I'd served in, we were under a split government, and
it made it a little bit better. At least there
was a little bit of common sense, a little bit
of a backstop. But we came in with an eighteen
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billion dollars surplus. Part of that were COVID dollars, so
you know they weren't going to be ongoing, but about
twelve billion of that was actually actually structural ongoing. So
anytime you spend eighteen billion dollars, there is going to
be ongoing spending. The Democrats do not like the word deficit.
They will ignore that word. They will argue against it.
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They want it called a structural imbalance. And the reason
I bring that up is.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The word the thing always cracks me up, the way
they make it sound so much better, and you're like, wait, wait, wait, no, no,
that's not what that is.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Whatever you call it, we're going to be in worship
under government. We'll just talk about that. But not only
was the eighteen billion dollars enough and they spent it,
they raised our state budget another ten billion dollars. Taxes, fees,
we have delivery taxes, a gas tax tied to an inflator.
That is the most regressive tax. People that are trying
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to just get to work don't need to be paying
more for gas that it is going to continually every
year go up many more fees in there. So our
state budget we are looking at a deficit. I'll be
the one to say it. We expect to take the
majority in the House. We are only four seats short,
and it is looking very good for us. We are
going to be the ones that are going to have
to make the hard decisions.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I think it's important to point out that what
the Democrats do is that they tax the most vulnerable
and they give back to the wealthy. And we talked
about this a little earlier. I mean the same in Michigan.
She tried to put in a gas tax that didn't
fly in the state of Michigan, but that was when
the legislature was still read and people were like, are
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you out of your mind? You put a gas text in.
You hurt the most vulnerable people in the state. You
hurt the lowest income folks in the state. Everybody has
to get gas. So that's what these radical Democrats do.
They hurt the most vulnerable and then they subsidize the wealthy.
And that's what when you talk about this situation with
school lunches, this is happening across the country. Governor Walls
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did it. Governor Whitmer did it. But the fact that
Walls did it, and he is now in the running
for Vice president of the United States. What they did
was they said, we're going to give free and reduced lunch,
well free lunch to have, not even free and reduced
free lunch to every student in this state. Now to
your point, kids that needed it, they had free and
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reduce lunch. They manipulate this by saying, oh, you know,
it's embarrassing for these kids that have to get free
and reduced lunch in front of kids that don't. So
we're going to give free lunch to everybody. So we're
going to subsidize the rich people, well that didn't need
free lunch. We're going to take tax dollars from the
most vulnerable and pay for the wealthy kids to eat lunch.
Like there's no other way to make it so that
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kids would free and reduce lunch aren't called out in
the line.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, and kids aren't called out in the line. You know,
I remember way back in school in elementary there would
be a different colored lunch ticket for the kids that
had free or reduce and they'd have to have that punched.
In the district that I represent, one of my schools,
they have a coding system. It's just like a box.
The kids punch in their lunch number. Nobody knows the difference.
You're not going through a different line, you're not grabbing
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different food. And what we've heard from schools around the
state is there is so much waste because kids are
taking the free lunch that they have to take, eating
one or two things, throwing the rest away, and going
and buying all the cart because they can afford it.
It is ridiculous. And as House Republicans, we had a
number of amendments that would have made this so much better.
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We wanted to increase you know, on the federal poverty
guidelines is how that is figured. We wanted to increase
that from one hundred and seventy five percent a federal
poverty guideline to two hundred percent or three hundred percent.
We wanted to make it so that those were facing
the most challenges would have the help that they needed,
but that wasn't enough. So people making a seven figure income,
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their kids are getting free lunch. Let me tell you,
those people don't want their kids eating that unless the
kids want to. They have choices. It is just so
on the surface, so tone deaf for reality. But the
sound bites really play well.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
They do, and it's a hard it's hard to explain
on the other side because you have to explain it.
You have to say you have to understand what they've
really done here. I mean, this is the opposite of Robinhood.
They're taking from the bore and giving to the rich.
It's insane, and yet it's really hard to get people
to hear that. When they hear all kids should be
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able to there should be no food inequity and all
these weird thing that they say, and instead of just
there are kids that are hungry. You know, they come
up with these talking points. They're quick and they're concise,
and people go, yeah, I want to support that, having
no idea that they are giving money to the rich.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, exactly, And I think that's so important and a
lot of times those talking points, like you said, you know,
when we're outdoor knocking right now, you have about ten
seconds at the door unless somebody wants to have a conversation.
You know, again, the mainstream media in the state of
Minnesota does not cover things fairly, and they don't cover
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them if they might shed a potential questionable light on
the decisions that a one party Democrat controlled state have made.
And so we try to push it back. We can
get off on these side things eighteen billion dollars a surplus,
gone ten billion dollars in taxes and fees raise. Our
kids in the state of Minnesota are not reading at
grade level. We only have forty nine percent of our
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kids reading at grade level. Third graders are reading only
forty seven percent of them can read at grade level.
And that is under Governor Walts. Those third graders were kindergartener, Yeah,
kindergarteners when he came in. They have been failing. So
he claims to be this teacher and coach and great guy.
You know what, I would think a teacher, a former teacher,
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would look and say, we have got to get a
hold of this. Now, not going out, Tudor. We haven't
even started talking about the fraud. And I hope we
get a chance to talk about the fraud under Governor
Walls and what has been spent, wasted and gone out
to fraudsters.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, let's talk about it. Get into that. I mean,
that's something that happened in Michigan too. COVID was a
great time for fraudsters to come in because they had
this extended, extended welfare program and so they had and
they had no checks and balances, and that was something
that I don't think that anybody hit them hard enough on.
We had I think it was eight billion, eight or
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nine billion dollars that the Whitmer administration just went. I
don't know, we don't know where it went. So tell
us about Governor Walls.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So, Governor Walls. During COVID, Minnesota Department of Education oversaw
a program called Feeding Our Future, a nonprofit that was
feeding kids during the pandemic because they weren't in school. Now,
we didn't have the free school lunches and breakfasts at
that time that was put in now. But they oversaw
this program and it has been proven two hundred and
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fifty million dollars have gone out to Feeding our Future.
Fraud to buy property in Africa, homes, cars, Yes, it
has gone out in fraud. The concept money thing you
state money, taxpayer dollars, and like I say, in the
state of Minnesota taxpayers, So the ones that are actually
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paying for all this are tired of funding fraud and
what I'll tell you, I want to bring you through
a couple of different things. So that was just under
the Department of Education. So far, no one under the
Waltz administration has been held accountable. No commissioners have lost
their job, no government employees have been disciplined or lost
their job. So everybody just keeps it well. Just as
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the commissioner was interviewed during this Office of Legislative Auditor report,
he said that he wasn't there to assess blame. But
yet the Office of Legislative Auditor in the state of
Minnesota is nonpartisan, so I'm not talking about partisan talking points,
nonpartisan saying that going back to twenty eighteen, so as
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Governor Walls was coming in, he could have before the
pandemic gotten a hold of this, saying we don't know
for sure, but why don't we just stop it? Instead
he let it go forward because of a lack of oversight.
These were the things reported. There was a lack of
oversight and the conditions, the conditions were ripe for fraud. Now,
when you have fraud in one government agency, it usually
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spreads through others. But yet there was no checks and balances, like,
if these people are creating fraud here, maybe we shouldn't
be giving them other benefits. Not only in the feeding
our future. Under Minnesota Department of Education, we also had
frontline worker pay, so five hundred million dollars was allocated
by the legislator to be sent out to those that
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were working during the front lines during the height of
the pandemic. Took a lot of time to kind of
get that through, but it made sense. We wanted to
help those that had put themselves out limited number of dollars.
Two hundred million dollars of the hot five hundred million
have gone out and fraud to people that were not eligible,
some that did not live in our state, some that
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died before the application process even opened, not necessarily from COVID,
they were not alive to get these dollars. So instead
of almost nine hundred dollars checks to each person because
of the fraud, the people that got the checks four
hundred and eighty seven dollars per person, so half of
almost half of that went out to fraud. On top
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of that, we've got an FBI investigation in auditism spending.
In four years, we have a seven hundred percent increase
on those that are providing autism services with a three
thousand percent increase on the payments going out to those.
Have there been any cross references or checks to know
about fraud and other areas. I don't know. So that's
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Department of Human Services with the frontline worker pay, That's
the Department of Revenue that we talked about, the Department
of Education. Nobody again, has been held accountable. This is
solely on the shoulders of Governor Walls. He needs to
take responsibility when he's not going to hold those that
he's chosen to be commissioners responsible well.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And it used to be that we had a media
that would hold these governors responsible, and that's not the
situation in Minnesota. You've got this media that's covering their tracks.
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. I mean, you look at this campaign,
it's somewhat shocking. You have com Harris out there saying, oh,
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prices are higher than we've ever seen. On day one,
I'm going to lower them. She's the vice president, I mean,
not happening in a vacuum. She's not incapable of doing
anything now, and last I checked, the president wasn't in
the best shape, So seems like she could kind of
step in there now and do something. But she's running
on this. The media is not saying anything. The media
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is not asking them to take questions, not asking them
to sit down, not asking them to answer for this
military record or anything that we're hearing about, walls, all
of these things. These are the big things, but you're
talking about how he actually has governed in your state,
and his record of governing is abysmal when we look
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at COVID, and I'm not a fan of going back
to COVID, but I think in this particular case, you
have to look at how the person governed in a
crisis to understand what they would do on the world scale,
because we're going into to a time when we see
wars across the globe. We're very much teetering on the
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edge of another world war. And COVID was a real
disaster that happened to this country, and he shut everything down,
kept kids out of school, kept people out of their churches,
but I think also the scary thing to me is
the COVID snitch line. And I say that because you
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create a society of chaos, You create a society where
people are calling to say, get this person, get that person.
There's no accountability. I mean, this is an anonymous line
where you can call and say and tattle on your neighbor.
Who knows if you don't like your neighbor. It is
incredibly dangerous to have this, But it's also this ability
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to kind of have government come in and control, have
government come in and take people and put them in
places that they people that they don't like, maybe take
them out of the scenario. We had it in We
had restaurants that stayed open. They handcuffed these people, took
them to jail. We had in Michigan a website where
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they would put up any any business, no matter what restaurant, manufacturing, farm,
anyone who had COVID violations. It was just a public site,
so you can like publicly shame businesses that didn't comply
perfectly with the COVID loss. So tell us a little
bit about him during COVID, because I think that's so
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telling as to how they're going to act when a
crisis occurs.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Absolutely, And you know when you talk about that snitch line,
that was shocking going back to when Governor Walls ran
on this one Minnesota. That was his campaign slogan when
he first ran for governor. What we didn't know was
that was going to mean one rule Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Right exactly. We did not.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, we did not realize that he was not doing
anything to unify in the time of a crisis. And
he could have done that, He could have looked at it.
He kept all of our kids out of school in
public schools, but our private schools and our tribal schools
could remain open. So, I mean we first heard from him,
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you know, there were.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Pretty fine how that worked, because that's shocking to me.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
A lot of people when they finally realized how their
kids were being educated. You know, maybe parents that were
listening in on Zoom because the kids were all on zoom,
you know for the last part.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Of the.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Nineteen twenty school year, so you know until May or June,
they were on Zoom. I happened to have a daughter
that was an elementary teacher at the time. She went
out on maternity leave and then returned for the last
two weeks, and it was it was absolutely wild. But
parents were realizing both what their kids were being educated
in even in that and parents made a very much
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of a different choice. They started looking at private schools.
Private schools in the fall of twenty twenty were at
capacity most of them. Parents were made choices to homeschool
because this you can be in, then you have to
be out. The guidelines that were given from the Governor's
office and the Department of Education had kind of like
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a whole step process of how you needed to do
it and when you had to report. And it was complicated.
And I understand that we were in time of a crisis,
but we did not have a governor that unified us
in a time of crisis. The other thing with our
businesses shutting them down and then having the Attorney General
threatened to come in and to have people arrested, businesses closed,
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they are still trying to recover. There are new business mandates,
taxes that are put on in what I've talked to
you about about the budget already that even this far out, businesses,
the small ones, even some of the large ones, but
the small ones specifically are still in that recovery mode,
and I would have constituents that own businesses call me
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because Governor Waltz would do a weekly zoom update with
the Commissioner of Health and they would call me and
we're still shut down. What do we do? Can you
give me any hope? I finally started giving out his
office number. I said, I've sent letters, I've tried everything
that I can. You can call him. And I remember
a resort owner, she was probably in her late seventies.
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She said, these are just a handful of people that
have come for forty fifty years. And I said, you
can call the governor and she was so shocked she
could and I said, he's not going to answer. They
never returned the calls. You leave a voicemail, but you
can do that. So people were looking just to have
some common sense. There isn't a single person in our
state that wanted to make someone else sick, but we
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were told that we were going to have it. Seventy
thousand people die in the state of Minnesota. So he
closed everything the first two weeks to flatten the curve.
Those were the terms that were used. You know this
big like bell curve. Oh I remember anyway, So that
was you know, going back. But then with the murder
of George Floyd and the protests that ensued, and protests
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turned to riots, and Governor Walls was nowhere to be found.
We had the city of many of Minneapolis burning for
three days before he finally took action.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You know, I was just watching a video of this
because I think people really need to recognize what did
go on. I think he completely botched the COVID crisis.
Went after people for their religious beliefs, went after people
for their values, whether they were Christian values or American values,
they weren't his values. And that was who was targeted.
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And I look at that and I think that was critical.
But in the midst of this, he's targeting people. You
have to stay home, you have to wear a mask,
you can't open your business. But then he allows days
of protests where people are not masks, some are, some aren't.
Who cares, they're all together. They're breaking into people's businesses.
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I was just watching a report from NBC where there
is a guy on the streets and he's saying, hey,
I'm out here, and you can see it's total chaos
behind him. I'm out here. I don't see a single
police officer. I don't see a single fire truck. I
don't see the National Guard. There is no one protecting
these people. This is a neighborhood where you've got a
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lot of minority entrepreneurs. This is their family business. They
poured their heart and soul and all their money into
this and it just gets destroyed. And then you have
the governor's wife quoted as saying I opened the windows
so I could smell Minneapolis burning.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
What yeah, yeah, And that you know as a as
a lawmaker, when I when I watched this start happening,
and then the governor's lack of response, and I remember
the night that was the very worst where they let
the third Precinct go down. What I should say as preference,
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the district that I represent right now is in central Minnesota.
I was actually born here, but my family moved when
I was seventh to Minneapolis, and we lived from the
time I was in seventh through eleventh grade just blocks
off of George Floyd Square. So even though I don't
have family in that area anymore, the night that everything
was so like the complete chaos, I'd watched it every night,
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and the news they had live coverage, local media which
was very good because that's the only way you could
kind of know what was going on. But I had
Twitter open, and I had two computers going, and I'm
watching everything. And they let the third Precinct go down.
And what you've heard Governor Wall say is they thought
that was going to quell the violence.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
And letting the businesses burn, letting people's yes, letting their
life savings go up and flames. I'll just let see
if that works exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So I and a handful of other lawmakers and some
of the business owners in the area had a chance
to tour and kind of walk that area of Lake
Street and we met with some of those Mercado Central
is the place that I remember having this conversation outside
with some of these business owners that said, they said
somebody would be here to protect us, so we left.
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They had older business owners, family members sitting in the doorway,
turning away those that were there to do violence. They
had people from other places on.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I remember people camping out in their stores hoping that
they could stop the people from coming in and breaking
into their homes or into their stores. They were spending
the night in their own businesses because they had no protection,
nothing they called, They called nine to one one. No
one's coming.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
No, And you would think that a governor would actually respond.
And I remember one of the news stations the reporter saying, governor.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Where are you? Where are you?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And obviously he was nowhere to be found. One of
the most chilling text or Twitter tweets that I saw
was from a Democrat lawmaker in that area that represented
a part of Minneapolis and said, you know, didn't assess
blame whether or not people were you know there was
going to be protection or not, but telling people how
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to protect their homes. Pull your garbage cans inside, don't
leave them outside, wet down everything around your area. And
I'm thinking your governor, our governor is failing us. Yet
a lawmaker from the area is trying as best as
he could to protect the area that he represented. What
an abject failure. So when you think of this same
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governor that failed in so many ways. Plus when you
talk about you know, Vice President Harris saying that she'll
cut taxes and you she'll cut spending, Well, the person
she's picked as running mate will not do that. Obviously
he's on on break.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
She'll do that either. I think again that sounds like
a nice thing to say. There's nobody holding her accountable.
There's nobody saying, well, wait a minute, why haven't you
done anything yet? You've seen the American people suffering. Stick
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Israel needs our support now more than ever, and stay
tuned because we're going to have more. With Lisa Dumouth
right after this, she picked a guy who is a
total progressive to run with. She had the opportunity to
pick a Josh Shapiro, who people felt was more of
a moderate, was going to talk to the Jewish part
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of the party. There's some concern over whether or not
she didn't choose him because of his Jewish background. Tim
Walls has an interesting connection to a Muslim cleric who
was celebrating October seventh, the Hamas attack. He's had him
to at least over to his I believe his home.
He's hosted him five times as governor of Minnesota. Is
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this is this ticket going to be reaching out to
the Hamas, the Hamas supporters And I'm not saying let
me be clear, this is not who I think the
Muslim community is. This is a man who supported and
celebrated the Hamas attack. Is Tim Walls, and for that matter,
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Kamala Harris trying to appease the supporters of a terrorist organization.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You know, I can't speak to that. I don't know.
I would say I, along with the rest of the country,
would hope not. But knowing that Tim Walls has changed
his tune all the way from Congress the moderate NRA
indoors to now know absolutely taking away Second Amendment rights
as much as he can and moving forward, I don't
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know who he will be as this continues to go on,
as his campaign as vice president continues to go on,
if they were to be elected, I don't know who
he would be.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So as we watched these news casts and everything, and
we're looking when we're looking back at what happened in
twenty twenty, I again remind everyone that was in the
midst of COVID where he was telling everybody to stay home.
The combination of Kamala Harris telling people to stay in
the streets and riot his wife saying she was smelling
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to burn, and there was like some sort of a
twisted enjoyment in that, and him refusing to send in
the National Guarden. I know there's some question about that story,
but the truth about that behind the scenes is that
he felt that he hadn't gotten a good enough report
from them as to how they would stop the violence,
so he waited. Now, ultimately he did send in the
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National Guard, but he waited. There is no waiting when
you have a Chinese by balloon. There is no waiting
when you've got jets on the airspace in Alaska and
you have to scramble your own jets out there. There
is no waiting when you're about to be attacked by
a nuclear weapon. So if this guy is the guy
who is second in command and he's like, you know what,
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I haven't gotten the exact plan I want yet, so
I'm just going to wait and see in an emergency.
What does this mean for the country.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I think it means that our country will be less safe.
We know that in Minnesota we were less safe, and
again the financial things unable to aurffloord our lives in
a meaningful way here. We are not doing better under
Governor Walt. Our country will be less safe and worse
off when it comes to a Harris Walls ticket if
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they were to win that election, we will not be
in a position. I don't have confidence that the vice
president would do what she has done as president because
she I can't point to what she's done. She wants
to lower prices.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right now we're pundering.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, tell me what she's done. Yeah, tell me what
she's done. And I know from Governor Wall's track record
giving driver's license to those that are here illegally, giving
health care this is on the back of taxpayers. We
need legal immigration and I absolutely support that. So them
running the country. I don't know what that would look like,
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but it would not be good. There's nothing good that
would come out of it.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Well, you make a great point. Walls goes beyond just
not being secure and I think that's been the complaint
with Harris, is like, you don't even know how to
secure the border. You were the borders are you were
in charge of this?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And she can say, oh, I was in charge of diplomacy. WHOA, Okay,
what'd you do?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Show me what you did to stop the massive amount
of flooding of immigrants coming across the border, of illegal
immigrants coming across the border. But he goes beyond that.
He says, I don't care about your status. I want
to create a sanctuary state. He's off for sanctuary beyond
cities sanctuary states. He's created the sanctuary state. He wants
to provide healthcare, and he wants to give housing and
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money and everything and driver's licenses to illegals. But we're
talking about allowing people who we don't know who they
are when they're not vetted, we don't know that they
came here because they wanted to assimilate and become an American.
They're giving them voting rights. Essentially, once you give somebody
an ID, given them voting rights. And I think we
have to be very clear about that. But also, again,
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you are taking the hard earned money of Minnesotans and
paying for someone's health care. World, they have to pay
for their own health care right.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Right exactly, and it is so off balanced with the
things they want to do. Think of energy alone. We
know that Vice President Harris her energy policies are concerning.
We know that Governor Waltz has signed into law Clean
Energy by twenty forty to kind of figure it out
as we get there. There's a vilification of gas powered vehicles.
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Minnesota gets really cold, and if you want to have it,
if you want to have an electric vehicle, do that.
I think that's great, but don't make it a penalty
if you choose something else. And the vilification of the
different types of energy. I think energy is in all
of the above. We need all forms of energy to
keep it affordable and reliable. So when you look at
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all of the different things healthcare again, wanting to get
rid of healthcare, as the Vice President has said, there
have already been changes that Governor Waltz. He signed a
law into a place that because of the way managed
care is handled insurers, private people on insurance plans, almost
thirty two thousand Minnesotans will be losing their healthcare as
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they know it now. There is a track record, so
it's not just talking about what maybe they want to do.
I've got a track record. It is data. Again, it's
not part of it is data of what Tim Walls
has already done to the state of Minnesota. And I
don't believe our country would be in a better place
with him as vice president. No.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
No, he's the face of big government and he wants
to tell you what your car is going to be.
He wants to tell you who you're going to pay
for for their healthcare. He wants to tell you what
healthcare providers you're going to choose. I mean, this is crazy.
And no one questions that it's cold in Minnesota. I mean,
the one thing I love about Minneapolis is you can
go places, you can walk places without ever going outside
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because it's so darn cold there. So if you are
there in the winter, there's all these different ways to
get from building to building. So there's not a question
the governor Walls knows if you have to go to
electric vehicles in states like Minnesota and Michigan, you are
in big trouble when it comes to wintertime with an
electric vehicle. We all are aware of that. Everybody knows
batteries die in the cold, but I guess it doesn't
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matter to these people, because again, radical big government, We're
going to force you to do whatever we say, and
we don't care how it affects you. Listen. I am
so grateful you were here today. State Representative Lisa Dumouth,
thank you so much for coming and talking to us.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Thank you very much. I look forward to future conversations
as this moves forward, but thank you, Tutor for the
opportunity to bring a little bit of truth to the
race that we see ahead of us, and a little
bit of common sense on what has been passed and
what we maybe need to do to change it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Well, today, as we're
watching the media try to pay Tim Waltz, the governor
of Minnesota, as this jovial, moderate Midwestern dad, coach, teacher,
this guy who gets all things done, I wanted to
actually bring someone in who knows his real track record
in the state of Minnesota. Lisa Dmouth is a Minnesota
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state representative and the current House Minority Leader who's worked
with Governor Waltz since two thy eighteen, and they were
both elected to their current positions at that time. Thank
you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Thank you very much, Tutor. It's good to be with you,
and I really look forward to this conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm me too. We were chatting a little bit about
what's gone on in Minnesota. It's so similar to what's
happened in Michigan, which makes sense because Gretchen Whitmer, the
governor of Michigan, was just out saying she loved Governor
Waltz because they've been kind of competing on progressive policies
for several years now. They were elected also, she was
also elected in twenty eighteen, so they've been watching each
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other and trying to out progressive each other, I guess,
and I honestly think people don't know how progressive he is.
We've talked on the podcast about his connection to China,
and that's why we wanted to go into Minnesota and say, Okay,
we're going to give you the chance to tell us
exactly what's happening there. One of the things you were
talking about was the budget. To me, this is terrifying
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because it's very similar in Michigan, these record budgets, these
COVID surpluses that were just thrown away, and now a
raising of taxes. Same in Michigan. She raised our taxes here.
That should be a red flag to anyone. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And financially, you know, even under the Biden Harris ticket,
everything in the country is more expensive. So when you
bring it down to the state level, and we are
on an unsustainable path, And just so your viewers actually
can hear this, we came into January twenty twenty three,
and although I've served in the legislature elected than eighteen
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and started serving in twenty nineteen, this was my first
session as Minority leader in the House or Republican leader
in the House. So when we came in in twenty
twenty three full Democrat control. The other two sessions that
I'd served in, we were under a split government, and
it made it a little bit better. At least there
was a little bit of common sense, a little bit
of a backstop. But we came in with an eighteen
(02:23):
billion dollars surplus. Part of that were COVID dollars, so
you know they weren't going to be ongoing, but about
twelve billion of that was actually actually structural ongoing. So
anytime you spend eighteen billion dollars, there is going to
be ongoing spending. The Democrats do not like the word deficit.
They will ignore that word. They will argue against it.
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They want it called a structural imbalance. And the reason
I bring that up is.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The word the thing always cracks me up, the way
they make it sound so much better, and you're like, wait, wait, wait, no, no,
that's not what that is.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Whatever you call it, we're going to be in worship
under government. We'll just talk about that. But not only
was the eighteen billion dollars enough and they spent it,
they raised our state budget another ten billion dollars. Taxes, fees,
we have delivery taxes, a gas tax tied to an inflator.
That is the most regressive tax. People that are trying
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to just get to work don't need to be paying
more for gas that it is going to continually every
year go up many more fees in there. So our
state budget we are looking at a deficit. I'll be
the one to say it. We expect to take the
majority in the House. We are only four seats short,
and it is looking very good for us. We are
going to be the ones that are going to have
to make the hard decisions.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I think it's important to point out that what
the Democrats do is that they tax the most vulnerable
and they give back to the wealthy. And we talked
about this a little earlier. I mean the same in Michigan.
She tried to put in a gas tax that didn't
fly in the state of Michigan, but that was when
the legislature was still read and people were like, are
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you out of your mind? You put a gas text in.
You hurt the most vulnerable people in the state. You
hurt the lowest income folks in the state. Everybody has
to get gas. So that's what these radical Democrats do.
They hurt the most vulnerable and then they subsidize the wealthy.
And that's what when you talk about this situation with
school lunches, this is happening across the country. Governor Walls
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did it. Governor Whitmer did it. But the fact that
Walls did it, and he is now in the running
for Vice president of the United States. What they did
was they said, we're going to give free and reduced lunch,
well free lunch to have, not even free and reduced
free lunch to every student in this state. Now to
your point, kids that needed it, they had free and
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reduce lunch. They manipulate this by saying, oh, you know,
it's embarrassing for these kids that have to get free
and reduced lunch in front of kids that don't. So
we're going to give free lunch to everybody. So we're
going to subsidize the rich people, well that didn't need
free lunch. We're going to take tax dollars from the
most vulnerable and pay for the wealthy kids to eat lunch.
Like there's no other way to make it so that
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kids would free and reduce lunch aren't called out in
the line.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, and kids aren't called out in the line. You know,
I remember way back in school in elementary there would
be a different colored lunch ticket for the kids that
had free or reduce and they'd have to have that punched.
In the district that I represent, one of my schools,
they have a coding system. It's just like a box.
The kids punch in their lunch number. Nobody knows the difference.
You're not going through a different line, you're not grabbing
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different food. And what we've heard from schools around the
state is there is so much waste because kids are
taking the free lunch that they have to take, eating
one or two things, throwing the rest away, and going
and buying all the cart because they can afford it.
It is ridiculous. And as House Republicans, we had a
number of amendments that would have made this so much better.
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We wanted to increase you know, on the federal poverty
guidelines is how that is figured. We wanted to increase
that from one hundred and seventy five percent a federal
poverty guideline to two hundred percent or three hundred percent.
We wanted to make it so that those were facing
the most challenges would have the help that they needed,
but that wasn't enough. So people making a seven figure income,
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their kids are getting free lunch. Let me tell you,
those people don't want their kids eating that unless the
kids want to. They have choices. It is just so
on the surface, so tone deaf for reality. But the
sound bites really play well.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
They do, and it's a hard it's hard to explain
on the other side because you have to explain it.
You have to say you have to understand what they've
really done here. I mean, this is the opposite of Robinhood.
They're taking from the bore and giving to the rich.
It's insane, and yet it's really hard to get people
to hear that. When they hear all kids should be
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able to there should be no food inequity and all
these weird thing that they say, and instead of just
there are kids that are hungry. You know, they come
up with these talking points. They're quick and they're concise,
and people go, yeah, I want to support that, having
no idea that they are giving money to the rich.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, exactly, And I think that's so important and a
lot of times those talking points, like you said, you know,
when we're outdoor knocking right now, you have about ten
seconds at the door unless somebody wants to have a conversation.
You know, again, the mainstream media in the state of
Minnesota does not cover things fairly, and they don't cover
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them if they might shed a potential questionable light on
the decisions that a one party Democrat controlled state have made.
And so we try to push it back. We can
get off on these side things eighteen billion dollars a surplus,
gone ten billion dollars in taxes and fees raise. Our
kids in the state of Minnesota are not reading at
grade level. We only have forty nine percent of our
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kids reading at grade level. Third graders are reading only
forty seven percent of them can read at grade level.
And that is under Governor Walts. Those third graders were kindergartener, Yeah,
kindergarteners when he came in. They have been failing. So
he claims to be this teacher and coach and great guy.
You know what, I would think a teacher, a former teacher,
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would look and say, we have got to get a
hold of this. Now, not going out, Tudor. We haven't
even started talking about the fraud. And I hope we
get a chance to talk about the fraud under Governor
Walls and what has been spent, wasted and gone out
to fraudsters.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, let's talk about it. Get into that. I mean,
that's something that happened in Michigan too. COVID was a
great time for fraudsters to come in because they had
this extended, extended welfare program and so they had and
they had no checks and balances, and that was something
that I don't think that anybody hit them hard enough on.
We had I think it was eight billion, eight or
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nine billion dollars that the Whitmer administration just went. I
don't know, we don't know where it went. So tell
us about Governor Walls.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So, Governor Walls. During COVID, Minnesota Department of Education oversaw
a program called Feeding Our Future, a nonprofit that was
feeding kids during the pandemic because they weren't in school. Now,
we didn't have the free school lunches and breakfasts at
that time that was put in now. But they oversaw
this program and it has been proven two hundred and
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fifty million dollars have gone out to Feeding our Future.
Fraud to buy property in Africa, homes, cars, Yes, it
has gone out in fraud. The concept money thing you
state money, taxpayer dollars, and like I say, in the
state of Minnesota taxpayers, So the ones that are actually
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paying for all this are tired of funding fraud and
what I'll tell you, I want to bring you through
a couple of different things. So that was just under
the Department of Education. So far, no one under the
Waltz administration has been held accountable. No commissioners have lost
their job, no government employees have been disciplined or lost
their job. So everybody just keeps it well. Just as
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the commissioner was interviewed during this Office of Legislative Auditor report,
he said that he wasn't there to assess blame. But
yet the Office of Legislative Auditor in the state of
Minnesota is nonpartisan, so I'm not talking about partisan talking points,
nonpartisan saying that going back to twenty eighteen, so as
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Governor Walls was coming in, he could have before the
pandemic gotten a hold of this, saying we don't know
for sure, but why don't we just stop it? Instead
he let it go forward because of a lack of oversight.
These were the things reported. There was a lack of
oversight and the conditions, the conditions were ripe for fraud. Now,
when you have fraud in one government agency, it usually
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spreads through others. But yet there was no checks and balances, like,
if these people are creating fraud here, maybe we shouldn't
be giving them other benefits. Not only in the feeding
our future. Under Minnesota Department of Education, we also had
frontline worker pay, so five hundred million dollars was allocated
by the legislator to be sent out to those that
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were working during the front lines during the height of
the pandemic. Took a lot of time to kind of
get that through, but it made sense. We wanted to
help those that had put themselves out limited number of dollars.
Two hundred million dollars of the hot five hundred million
have gone out and fraud to people that were not eligible,
some that did not live in our state, some that
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died before the application process even opened, not necessarily from COVID,
they were not alive to get these dollars. So instead
of almost nine hundred dollars checks to each person because
of the fraud, the people that got the checks four
hundred and eighty seven dollars per person, so half of
almost half of that went out to fraud. On top
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of that, we've got an FBI investigation in auditism spending.
In four years, we have a seven hundred percent increase
on those that are providing autism services with a three
thousand percent increase on the payments going out to those.
Have there been any cross references or checks to know
about fraud and other areas. I don't know. So that's
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Department of Human Services with the frontline worker pay, That's
the Department of Revenue that we talked about, the Department
of Education. Nobody again, has been held accountable. This is
solely on the shoulders of Governor Walls. He needs to
take responsibility when he's not going to hold those that
he's chosen to be commissioners responsible well.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And it used to be that we had a media
that would hold these governors responsible, and that's not the
situation in Minnesota. You've got this media that's covering their tracks.
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. I mean, you look at this campaign,
it's somewhat shocking. You have com Harris out there saying, oh,
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prices are higher than we've ever seen. On day one,
I'm going to lower them. She's the vice president, I mean,
not happening in a vacuum. She's not incapable of doing
anything now, and last I checked, the president wasn't in
the best shape, So seems like she could kind of
step in there now and do something. But she's running
on this. The media is not saying anything. The media
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is not asking them to take questions, not asking them
to sit down, not asking them to answer for this
military record or anything that we're hearing about, walls, all
of these things. These are the big things, but you're
talking about how he actually has governed in your state,
and his record of governing is abysmal when we look
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at COVID, and I'm not a fan of going back
to COVID, but I think in this particular case, you
have to look at how the person governed in a
crisis to understand what they would do on the world scale,
because we're going into to a time when we see
wars across the globe. We're very much teetering on the
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edge of another world war. And COVID was a real
disaster that happened to this country, and he shut everything down,
kept kids out of school, kept people out of their churches,
but I think also the scary thing to me is
the COVID snitch line. And I say that because you
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create a society of chaos, You create a society where
people are calling to say, get this person, get that person.
There's no accountability. I mean, this is an anonymous line
where you can call and say and tattle on your neighbor.
Who knows if you don't like your neighbor. It is
incredibly dangerous to have this, But it's also this ability
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to kind of have government come in and control, have
government come in and take people and put them in
places that they people that they don't like, maybe take
them out of the scenario. We had it in We
had restaurants that stayed open. They handcuffed these people, took
them to jail. We had in Michigan a website where
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they would put up any any business, no matter what restaurant, manufacturing, farm,
anyone who had COVID violations. It was just a public site,
so you can like publicly shame businesses that didn't comply
perfectly with the COVID loss. So tell us a little
bit about him during COVID, because I think that's so
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telling as to how they're going to act when a
crisis occurs.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Absolutely, And you know when you talk about that snitch line,
that was shocking going back to when Governor Walls ran
on this one Minnesota. That was his campaign slogan when
he first ran for governor. What we didn't know was
that was going to mean one rule Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Right exactly. We did not.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, we did not realize that he was not doing
anything to unify in the time of a crisis. And
he could have done that, He could have looked at it.
He kept all of our kids out of school in
public schools, but our private schools and our tribal schools
could remain open. So, I mean we first heard from him,
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you know, there were.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Pretty fine how that worked, because that's shocking to me.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
A lot of people when they finally realized how their
kids were being educated. You know, maybe parents that were
listening in on Zoom because the kids were all on zoom,
you know for the last part.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Of the.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Nineteen twenty school year, so you know until May or June,
they were on Zoom. I happened to have a daughter
that was an elementary teacher at the time. She went
out on maternity leave and then returned for the last
two weeks, and it was it was absolutely wild. But
parents were realizing both what their kids were being educated
in even in that and parents made a very much
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of a different choice. They started looking at private schools.
Private schools in the fall of twenty twenty were at
capacity most of them. Parents were made choices to homeschool
because this you can be in, then you have to
be out. The guidelines that were given from the Governor's
office and the Department of Education had kind of like
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a whole step process of how you needed to do
it and when you had to report. And it was complicated.
And I understand that we were in time of a crisis,
but we did not have a governor that unified us
in a time of crisis. The other thing with our
businesses shutting them down and then having the Attorney General
threatened to come in and to have people arrested, businesses closed,
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they are still trying to recover. There are new business mandates,
taxes that are put on in what I've talked to
you about about the budget already that even this far out, businesses,
the small ones, even some of the large ones, but
the small ones specifically are still in that recovery mode,
and I would have constituents that own businesses call me
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because Governor Waltz would do a weekly zoom update with
the Commissioner of Health and they would call me and
we're still shut down. What do we do? Can you
give me any hope? I finally started giving out his
office number. I said, I've sent letters, I've tried everything
that I can. You can call him. And I remember
a resort owner, she was probably in her late seventies.
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She said, these are just a handful of people that
have come for forty fifty years. And I said, you
can call the governor and she was so shocked she
could and I said, he's not going to answer. They
never returned the calls. You leave a voicemail, but you
can do that. So people were looking just to have
some common sense. There isn't a single person in our
state that wanted to make someone else sick, but we
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were told that we were going to have it. Seventy
thousand people die in the state of Minnesota. So he
closed everything the first two weeks to flatten the curve.
Those were the terms that were used. You know this
big like bell curve. Oh I remember anyway, So that
was you know, going back. But then with the murder
of George Floyd and the protests that ensued, and protests
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turned to riots, and Governor Walls was nowhere to be found.
We had the city of many of Minneapolis burning for
three days before he finally took action.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You know, I was just watching a video of this
because I think people really need to recognize what did
go on. I think he completely botched the COVID crisis.
Went after people for their religious beliefs, went after people
for their values, whether they were Christian values or American values,
they weren't his values. And that was who was targeted.
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And I look at that and I think that was critical.
But in the midst of this, he's targeting people. You
have to stay home, you have to wear a mask,
you can't open your business. But then he allows days
of protests where people are not masks, some are, some aren't.
Who cares, they're all together. They're breaking into people's businesses.
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I was just watching a report from NBC where there
is a guy on the streets and he's saying, hey,
I'm out here, and you can see it's total chaos
behind him. I'm out here. I don't see a single
police officer. I don't see a single fire truck. I
don't see the National Guard. There is no one protecting
these people. This is a neighborhood where you've got a
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lot of minority entrepreneurs. This is their family business. They
poured their heart and soul and all their money into
this and it just gets destroyed. And then you have
the governor's wife quoted as saying I opened the windows
so I could smell Minneapolis burning.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
What yeah, yeah, And that you know as a as
a lawmaker, when I when I watched this start happening,
and then the governor's lack of response, and I remember
the night that was the very worst where they let
the third Precinct go down. What I should say as preference,
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the district that I represent right now is in central Minnesota.
I was actually born here, but my family moved when
I was seventh to Minneapolis, and we lived from the
time I was in seventh through eleventh grade just blocks
off of George Floyd Square. So even though I don't
have family in that area anymore, the night that everything
was so like the complete chaos, I'd watched it every night,
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and the news they had live coverage, local media which
was very good because that's the only way you could
kind of know what was going on. But I had
Twitter open, and I had two computers going, and I'm
watching everything. And they let the third Precinct go down.
And what you've heard Governor Wall say is they thought
that was going to quell the violence.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
And letting the businesses burn, letting people's yes, letting their
life savings go up and flames. I'll just let see
if that works exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So I and a handful of other lawmakers and some
of the business owners in the area had a chance
to tour and kind of walk that area of Lake
Street and we met with some of those Mercado Central
is the place that I remember having this conversation outside
with some of these business owners that said, they said
somebody would be here to protect us, so we left.
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They had older business owners, family members sitting in the doorway,
turning away those that were there to do violence. They
had people from other places on.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I remember people camping out in their stores hoping that
they could stop the people from coming in and breaking
into their homes or into their stores. They were spending
the night in their own businesses because they had no protection,
nothing they called, They called nine to one one. No
one's coming.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
No, And you would think that a governor would actually respond.
And I remember one of the news stations the reporter saying, governor.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Where are you? Where are you?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And obviously he was nowhere to be found. One of
the most chilling text or Twitter tweets that I saw
was from a Democrat lawmaker in that area that represented
a part of Minneapolis and said, you know, didn't assess
blame whether or not people were you know there was
going to be protection or not, but telling people how
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to protect their homes. Pull your garbage cans inside, don't
leave them outside, wet down everything around your area. And
I'm thinking your governor, our governor is failing us. Yet
a lawmaker from the area is trying as best as
he could to protect the area that he represented. What
an abject failure. So when you think of this same
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governor that failed in so many ways. Plus when you
talk about you know, Vice President Harris saying that she'll
cut taxes and you she'll cut spending, Well, the person
she's picked as running mate will not do that. Obviously
he's on on break.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
She'll do that either. I think again that sounds like
a nice thing to say. There's nobody holding her accountable.
There's nobody saying, well, wait a minute, why haven't you
done anything yet? You've seen the American people suffering. Stick
around for more of my interview with Minnesota State Representative
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Israel needs our support now more than ever, and stay
tuned because we're going to have more. With Lisa Dumouth
right after this, she picked a guy who is a
total progressive to run with. She had the opportunity to
pick a Josh Shapiro, who people felt was more of
a moderate, was going to talk to the Jewish part
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of the party. There's some concern over whether or not
she didn't choose him because of his Jewish background. Tim
Walls has an interesting connection to a Muslim cleric who
was celebrating October seventh, the Hamas attack. He's had him
to at least over to his I believe his home.
He's hosted him five times as governor of Minnesota. Is
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this is this ticket going to be reaching out to
the Hamas, the Hamas supporters And I'm not saying let
me be clear, this is not who I think the
Muslim community is. This is a man who supported and
celebrated the Hamas attack. Is Tim Walls, and for that matter,
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Kamala Harris trying to appease the supporters of a terrorist organization.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You know, I can't speak to that. I don't know.
I would say I, along with the rest of the country,
would hope not. But knowing that Tim Walls has changed
his tune all the way from Congress the moderate NRA
indoors to now know absolutely taking away Second Amendment rights
as much as he can and moving forward, I don't
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know who he will be as this continues to go on,
as his campaign as vice president continues to go on,
if they were to be elected, I don't know who
he would be.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So as we watched these news casts and everything, and
we're looking when we're looking back at what happened in
twenty twenty, I again remind everyone that was in the
midst of COVID where he was telling everybody to stay home.
The combination of Kamala Harris telling people to stay in
the streets and riot his wife saying she was smelling
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to burn, and there was like some sort of a
twisted enjoyment in that, and him refusing to send in
the National Guarden. I know there's some question about that story,
but the truth about that behind the scenes is that
he felt that he hadn't gotten a good enough report
from them as to how they would stop the violence,
so he waited. Now, ultimately he did send in the
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National Guard, but he waited. There is no waiting when
you have a Chinese by balloon. There is no waiting
when you've got jets on the airspace in Alaska and
you have to scramble your own jets out there. There
is no waiting when you're about to be attacked by
a nuclear weapon. So if this guy is the guy
who is second in command and he's like, you know what,
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I haven't gotten the exact plan I want yet, so
I'm just going to wait and see in an emergency.
What does this mean for the country.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I think it means that our country will be less safe.
We know that in Minnesota we were less safe, and
again the financial things unable to aurffloord our lives in
a meaningful way here. We are not doing better under
Governor Walt. Our country will be less safe and worse
off when it comes to a Harris Walls ticket if
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they were to win that election, we will not be
in a position. I don't have confidence that the vice
president would do what she has done as president because
she I can't point to what she's done. She wants
to lower prices.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right now we're pundering.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, tell me what she's done. Yeah, tell me what
she's done. And I know from Governor Wall's track record
giving driver's license to those that are here illegally, giving
health care this is on the back of taxpayers. We
need legal immigration and I absolutely support that. So them
running the country. I don't know what that would look like,
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but it would not be good. There's nothing good that
would come out of it.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Well, you make a great point. Walls goes beyond just
not being secure and I think that's been the complaint
with Harris, is like, you don't even know how to
secure the border. You were the borders are you were
in charge of this?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
And she can say, oh, I was in charge of diplomacy. WHOA, Okay,
what'd you do?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Show me what you did to stop the massive amount
of flooding of immigrants coming across the border, of illegal
immigrants coming across the border. But he goes beyond that.
He says, I don't care about your status. I want
to create a sanctuary state. He's off for sanctuary beyond
cities sanctuary states. He's created the sanctuary state. He wants
to provide healthcare, and he wants to give housing and
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money and everything and driver's licenses to illegals. But we're
talking about allowing people who we don't know who they
are when they're not vetted, we don't know that they
came here because they wanted to assimilate and become an American.
They're giving them voting rights. Essentially, once you give somebody
an ID, given them voting rights. And I think we
have to be very clear about that. But also, again,
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you are taking the hard earned money of Minnesotans and
paying for someone's health care. World, they have to pay
for their own health care right.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Right exactly, and it is so off balanced with the
things they want to do. Think of energy alone. We
know that Vice President Harris her energy policies are concerning.
We know that Governor Waltz has signed into law Clean
Energy by twenty forty to kind of figure it out
as we get there. There's a vilification of gas powered vehicles.
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Minnesota gets really cold, and if you want to have it,
if you want to have an electric vehicle, do that.
I think that's great, but don't make it a penalty
if you choose something else. And the vilification of the
different types of energy. I think energy is in all
of the above. We need all forms of energy to
keep it affordable and reliable. So when you look at
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all of the different things healthcare again, wanting to get
rid of healthcare, as the Vice President has said, there
have already been changes that Governor Waltz. He signed a
law into a place that because of the way managed
care is handled insurers, private people on insurance plans, almost
thirty two thousand Minnesotans will be losing their healthcare as
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they know it now. There is a track record, so
it's not just talking about what maybe they want to do.
I've got a track record. It is data. Again, it's
not part of it is data of what Tim Walls
has already done to the state of Minnesota. And I
don't believe our country would be in a better place
with him as vice president. No.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
No, he's the face of big government and he wants
to tell you what your car is going to be.
He wants to tell you who you're going to pay
for for their healthcare. He wants to tell you what
healthcare providers you're going to choose. I mean, this is crazy.
And no one questions that it's cold in Minnesota. I mean,
the one thing I love about Minneapolis is you can
go places, you can walk places without ever going outside
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because it's so darn cold there. So if you are
there in the winter, there's all these different ways to
get from building to building. So there's not a question
the governor Walls knows if you have to go to
electric vehicles in states like Minnesota and Michigan, you are
in big trouble when it comes to wintertime with an
electric vehicle. We all are aware of that. Everybody knows
batteries die in the cold, but I guess it doesn't
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matter to these people, because again, radical big government, We're
going to force you to do whatever we say, and
we don't care how it affects you. Listen. I am
so grateful you were here today. State Representative Lisa Dumouth,
thank you so much for coming and talking to us.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Thank you very much. I look forward to future conversations
as this moves forward, but thank you, Tutor for the
opportunity to bring a little bit of truth to the
race that we see ahead of us, and a little
bit of common sense on what has been passed and
what we maybe need to do to change it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Absolutely, thank you and thank you all for joining us
on the Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode and others.
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