May 14, 2025 • 29 mins
In this episode, Senator Jim Banks discusses the importance of high-paying jobs, the transformation of the Republican Party, and the need for tax cuts that benefit the working class. He emphasizes the significance of manufacturing in the U.S. economy and the national security implications of outsourcing jobs. The conversation also touches on the political dynamics between Republicans and Democrats, particularly regarding tariffs and the America First agenda. Senator Banks advocates for a focus on small businesses and the working class to ensure the Republican Party remains relevant and successful in future elections. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we have Senator
Jim Banks with us. He was elected in twenty twenty
four to represent the state of Indiana. Oh, this is
so funny. In my notes, Sarah, who works with me,
is from Indiana, and she wrote go Hoosiers, which I'm
not going to say, but I think it's funny that
she put it in there to try to make me say, Senator,
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thank you so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Great to be with you, Tutor, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Absolutely sure we.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know, I am a Michigan girl, so I will
just say that I have been wanting to talk to
you for a while.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We've been trying to get you on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm really excited about what you've been able to take
to Washington from Indiana, and it is important to me
because we are all in the Midwest here together. The
reason I don't want to say go Hoosiers is because
you've taken a lot of our business. And I do
remember when you guys put up the billboards saying thank
you to Gretchen.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Whimmer for a lot of good reasons. And you know
it's sad because I love Michigan. I vacation in Michigan
with my family every summer. I grew up going to Michigan.
I live just forty five minutes from the state line,
and Michigan has so much to offer. But because of
your current leadership in your state, you guys have slipped
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further and further behind in the metrics that matter, and
that's creating good paying, working class jobs for the next generation.
And Indiana's benefited from that. But I hope you guys
turned the page and elect leadership in your state that
will copy some of the things that we've done in
Indiana and change that because a strong Michigan is good
for the Midwest and good for Indiana too, and I
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think Tutor, you're going to be a big part of
that for a long time to come.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, thank you. I appreciated that, and what you're saying.
I have been saying this, and actually we were just
last night. We were at.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
An event with a bunch of people from the middle
of the state and we were talking about that exact message,
because I hear so many politicians going out and talking
about we're going to have education, We're going to bring
education back, and we're gonna get lower taxes and we're
gonna do this, and we're going to do that, but
there's no how. And what you just said is so important.
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Bring high paying jobs, good paying jobs back to the state.
That is what Michigan has not had in so long.
But Gretchen Whitmer has paid a billion dollars of our money,
taken our money and paid it to corporations that promised
those good paying jobs to the state of Michigan, and
we didn't even get one fifth of what they promised
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for that money. So you've you've been kind of talking
about this lately. It's important that we don't turn our
backs on who we are now what this new Republican
Party is. Can you kind of explain that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, I've thought about a lot about this over the years.
I mean, you think about Michigan's economy, it's a lot
like Indiana's economy. And I come from the Fort Wayne area,
not we feed a lot off of Detroit. The auto industry. Actually,
Indiana has the most manufacturing jobs per capita of any
state in the country, and there's a lot of reasons
for that. I mean, we're it's the auto industry, it's
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the steel industry not far from where I live. We
have the orthopedic capital the world, zimmer biomet and Depew
making medical devices where we have a rich manufacturing, blue
collar working class tradition in Indiana. And this is this
is why Indiana is such a pro Trump state. I mean,
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I believe this through and through. Donald Trump represents my
state as well as he represents any state in the
country because he represents these these blue collar working class
voters that feel that have felt for too long like
politicians from all parties have abandoned them. But Donald Trump
sees them, he hears them. He wants to build a
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better life for them, you know. Tutor. For me, it's
personal because I grew up in a trailer park. My
dad was a union factory worker. He made axles at
a factory in Fort Wayne called Dana, and my mom.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Was they were one of my customers. That's crazy. We
used to make the axle housing you got.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's a great a great example of what I'm talking about.
My dad was a he was a part of the
steel workers union. He had a really good paying job
for over thirty years. He got a pension out of it.
He put food on the table. We worked our way
up in the to the middle class because of my
dad's good his strong work ethic, and a really good opportunity.
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But when you look at factory jobs today compared to
twenty five thirty years ago, my dad, my dad only
retired maybe ten years ago from the factory. But you
go back in time a little bit to that, maybe
to the eighties, and the factory these factory jobs today
aren't keeping up with You don't make a whole lot
more today in a lot of these factories than what
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you did back then. And that and that's that's because
we've let we've let that manufacturing base, those blue collar
jobs fall further and further behind it until Donald Trump
came along and the the trade policies that he's pushed for,
the immigration policies that he pushes for, the four that
these tariffs, I mean that what President Trump is doing
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with reciprocal tariffs, this is the just the beginning of
reorienting the global economy to bring these jobs back, not
not to allow these jobs to go overseas any longer,
to save that manufacturing base. And I that to me,
that is in essence the new Republican Party. When we
focus on those voters, when we focus on voters like
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my dad, who, by the way, when Donald Trump came
down the escalator, my dad was for him from day one.
I told my dad, you're crazy. He can't win. I
didn't see what my dad saw, but my dad saw
it instantly. I mean, this was the guy who was
talking about what he cared about, being tough on China,
issues like that that my dad cared about. And and
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Donald Trump has transformed the Republican Party, this new Republican
Party that that we're taught that you're a part of,
that I'm a part of that we're talking about. We
have to keep our part. One day when Donald Trump
leaves office three and a half years from now, and
hopefully JD. Vance and Jade Vance succeeds him, he becomes
the president, and we keep a Republican in the White House.
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But when Donald Trump is gone, we have to make
sure that the Republican Party stays firmly planted with that
America First ideology, that the principles of Donald Trump and
not go backwards to the Liz Cheney Republican Party, the
corporate Republican Party that loves Wall Street more than they
love Main Street and small towns and working class voters
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or will lose elections forever if we do that, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
There's no distinction between us and the Democrats. And that's
what we were talking about just last night. I said,
you hear Democrats constantly saying we've got to make people
pay their fair share, don't give.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Them money to the billionaires.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But you look in the state of Michigan and there's
almost been kind of this uniparty that has been funding
the billionaires over the small business owners, and the small
business owners are really the job creators.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
That are making the jobs, that are the good paying jobs.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
There's one guy I know that had a small business
in gren Rapids and he probably had about seventy five employees.
He ended up selling his company for hundreds of millions
of dollars, and when he sold the company, he gave
every single employee a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Those are the.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Kinds of people we want to grow, we want them
to want to be in our state. Instead, we have
Democrats that are giving tax relief, no property taxes to
billionaire investors who are coming in from out of state,
sometimes buying up all of our property they get they
don't pay property taxes. That pays our schools, that pays
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our police, that pays for everything local. And somehow it's
the Democrats giving the billionaires the break, and we're getting
blamed for it. But that's the party we don't want
to be a part of. That's where I think we
have to step away and we have to invest in
the small businesses and the people who are creating the
jobs that are creating wealth.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Because as you create wealth for people, everything else will rise.
All of you will have more energy, you will have
better schools, you will have more people building homes. That
will all rise.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's so true. If you go back to if you
go back to the election in twenty twelve, when Mitt
Romney ran against Barack Obama, Wall Street supported Mitt Romney
by about a margin of three to one in campaign
donations over Barack Obama. And that is the old Republican Party.
If you fast forward to today, go back to the
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election of twenty twenty, for example, Biden versus Trump, he
was the exact opposite. Wall Street supported Joe Biden by
a margin of four to one in campaign donations over
Donald Trump. Because Wall Street hates Donald Trump. They know
that Donald Trump isn't going to let Wall Street sell
our jobs out to China any longer in this whole
tariff trade that President Trump is pushing for right now
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proves it. That's why they don't like him, because President
Trump puts the working men and women of this country first.
Those jobs for working class voters, blue collar Americans like
my family. Donald Trump's a lot more focused on that
than he is Wall Street. And that's what's different about
today in the past, and Tutor, like you're saying, we
got to keep the Republican Party centered on that and
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comes it becomes very important right now because right now,
as we speak on Capitol Hill, we're going through this
Reconciliation Bill, the one big beautiful bill to extend the
Trump tax cuts. And I think, frankly, I got elected
in twenty sixteen to the House when President Trump was
elected the first time, and that first big thing that
we did was the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. And
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there was a big difference back then. We had Paul Ryan,
we had McConnell leading the Senate, we had Republican majorities,
but they weren't Republicans that were aligned with Donald Trump
and his agenda. And one of the big mistakes that
Republicans made back then was They over emphasized the corporate
tax cuts and they made those permanent, but they sunset
the tax cuts on individuals, working class families, small businesses.
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And that's why now now we're back here again today
working on that. We can't make that mistake again. We've
got to make those tax cuts permanent. We have to
focus all of the other tax credits and business tax credits,
research and development. All that stuff is important for the economy,
but what should be our top priority are the working
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men and women of this country and making sure that
they get tax relief and that we extend it permanently.
And that's what Republicans on Capitol Hill are wrestling with
at the moment. We have to get that right. We
have to let these voters know that you gave us
the white you gave us back, President Trump, you gave
us majorities. The Republican Party today represents you more than
we more and better than we've ever represented you before.
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And we want you to remain Republicans, not go back
to becoming Democrats because we didn't get it right.
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Speaker 1 (12:05):
People like yourself and others who have become more involved
in Republican politics but also have that background in manufacturing,
have an understanding of the national security implications of this,
and Donald Trump also has a grasp on the national
security implications of not having manufacturing. He's been going out
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and talking quite a bit about the ninety thousand factories
that went out of business. You said your dad worked
at a Dana shop. Dana actually closed a few factories
in Michigan over the past few years. In the past
two decades, we've had data shops closed. In fact, the
actual housing that we were making used to ship directly
to Wisconsin, and then when we took it over, we
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actually took it from Michigan. This is how bizarre the
state of global manufacturing is. It went from Michigan to Leon, France,
back to Oshkosh, Wisconsin for a military vehicle. We were
making military axle housings for data and this is and
this is where it would go all across the world
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to come back to make sure that we had the
vehicles to go over to Afghanistan.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Now, think about how bizarre that is.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And if you're Donald Trump, I mean, even if you
think about it from the automotive standpoint, like the automotive
six sigma, it's like, you know, the least amount of touches,
the least amount of.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Travel for a part here.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You have a part that actually goes from the United
States to France and back to a different state in
the United States. It makes no sense. And that's why
you see Donald Trump saying bring it back home. And
when people go, oh, my gosh, it's going to cost
so much more money. Wait a minute, think of the
logistics of that. If you've been in the industry, you
know you're paying for an entire container to go overseas
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and then come back and then travel back across the
United States.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
The cost can be cut.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It can be done in the United States, and jobs
like your dad's can be saved, and also their wages
can be increased.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's exactly right. I mean, you say, save these jobs,
and the country is stronger for it. And it makes
good business sense too. And a lot of it, as
you know, Tutor from your background, a lot of this
is tax policy. You don't you don't reward companies for
sending these good, good paying blue collar jobs to China
and Mexico, when in fact, when I was a kid,
NAFTA was a four letter word because my dad, my
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dad always got this, he saw it firsthand. I mean
that that data factory in Fort Wayne when I was
a kid, was booming three shifts every day, like overflow
parking lots. I mean it was, and then over the
years it's declined. You drive by, you drive by factories
like that. Today they're not doing as well. So when
when President Trump, I was in the Oval Office when
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I think maybe you were too, when President Trump signed
the Liberation Day that you were at the White House
around that time. Yes, yeah, he signed the reciprocal tariffs
and immediately we started hearing good GM in Fort Wayne's
made it an announcement immediately that they were adding hundreds
of jobs and they were adding more overtime for their workers.
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ELI Lilly, which is a huge part of Indiana, a
pharmaceutical company. They announced they were bringing twenty nine billion
dollars of pharmaceutical manufacturing out in China and moving it
to the United States. Roach Diagnostics announced earlier this week
fifty billion dollars of investment that they're bringing back to
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the United States, including a big announcement in Indiana. We
had a made in America bicycle company in Columbus, Indiana
make a million dollar announcement to make bicycles in Indiana.
Honda Honda announced they're going to make the next generation
Honda Civic in Indiana, not in Mexico, not in Japan,
but in my home state. The because of the tariffs,
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because these policies actually matter to incentivizing these companies to
do what they need to do in the United States.
It's good for our country, it's good for our workers,
and it's a sign that this new Republican Party gets it.
We represent these people that have become a big part
of our voting coalition. We got to keep it that way.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, we are these people. This is us. That's That's
what I keep saying to people. I'm like, this is us,
this is who we are.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
The people who come in and they tell you, you know,
I've I've made billions of dollars over my lifetime and
let me lead the state.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Do they really know who you are?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
You know, you have to you have to find out
if the person understands who you are. And I think
elections are different than they were years ago. We kind
of just trusted who was in our party. But you
make such a great point. The party is different now.
You have to listen to what the people are saying.
Don't let us go back to the past. Make sure
we keep progressing into the future. Last night, when I
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was at this event, one of the gentlemen came up
to me afterward and he said, I was sitting next
to a lifelong Democrat.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He said, he just came over to the Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And he said, I think he's really a Republican, but
he's trying to figure out exactly, you know, people so
many people are politically homeless right now, exactly where he fits.
He said, he listened to what you were saying, and
I heard him going.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh, yeah, uh huh. He said. At the end, he
was clapping. He said it was genuine.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He really felt like you understood what he needed. And
he's like, here's a guy who was a lifelong Democrat.
But I was looking at the income in Michigan because
you talk about Indiana and that is I think it's great.
I'm jealous of it. Why is it happening there and
not here? And I look at the policies in Michigan,
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and this is why elections matter, especially on the local level.
We have so much bread tape to get a business here.
They don't even look at Michigan. Energy is too high,
the barrier to entry is too long, you can't break ground,
you can't build a building. Licenses are too hard to get,
and then they're expensive. The Democrat regulation, the regulatory system
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under their rule is so abusive, but no one will
come to the state. And so when I look at
the income level, I was looking at the median income
in all of our different counties. In the red counties
it has raised with inflation, but nobody's life has improved.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It's just stayed the same. In the blue counties, no race.
They have stayed at the.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Same level they were at from the recession from two
thousand and eight to today.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Can you imagine all of these years have passed.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
This is a These are communities that are broken and
people complain all it's because of education.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
How can you focus on your child's education when you
are constantly in fight or flight.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And in Indiana that's what under Governor Daniels and Governor Pence,
we focused on creating that sort of environment and our
state to attract these jobs, laying the groundwork for what
for a moment like this, when manufacturing jobs come back,
they're going to come to Indiana because we have a
strong tax base, we have the education reform efforts at
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our State House have made our schools better across the board.
We've created that type of environment. So those state policies
tootor really matter. But what President Trump is doing with
the tariffs and what he's doing with this America First
agenda is going to make our country at large, I think,
stronger than it's ever been in our lifetime. And the
big reason why is he understands that you can use
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trade policy to influence other countries around the world and
from a from a state craft perspective, to put put
America and our interests and our shared interests with other
countries ahead of China's interest And what he's doing with
tariffs is reorienting the global economy to diminish China, which
is our biggest adversary, militarily, economically, rock China back so
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that America can seize the moment and be that leader
that we used to be in the world. But we've
we the Democrats over Obama and Biden especially, they were
so pro China and sold us out to China. And
the Democrat Party has become the pro China Party, I mean,
because they've married up with Wall Street and Wall Street interest.
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They've sold us out to China so much that President
Trump is taking this moment to try to diminish that
and get America back on his feed and bring these
jobs back to our country so that we could be
strong again. And that's what this agenda is all about.
He's just getting started. He is three and a half
years left to go. He's not going to miss a beat.
Every single day Donald Trump gets up and he reminds
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us we can't waste a single day. We got to
seize every single day that we have to bring these
jobs back and make this country what we know that
it can be again. I'm proud to be a part
of that.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
But tough on China is a rebrand for us too,
if we're being honest. Republicans were big on China. It
was globalization and China was the next best thing. It
was going to be low prices and this is going
to build up our economy and their economy. And I
think John McLaughlin said Trump's polster. He came out and
he said, right now, these are Trump voters, but the
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GOP is just renting them. And I think that's because
their memories are deep on this stuff. You know, people
know that this was what the Republican Party used to
be preaching and Donald Trump has changed that. However, you
see the mainstream media attacking him regularly on these tariffs
from China. They're saying that he doesn't know what he's doing.
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Now he's four months in, he's already cutting trade deals.
He's got this ninety day trade deal with China. They're
panicking because they've never seen They've just never seen this
in politics before, someone who understands negotiating and understands how
it impacts the country. So how do we convince voters
we're not going back, We're going to be tough on China.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And Donald Trump knows what he's doing with the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah. I think it goes back to those those fundraising
numbers I talked about how Wall Street overwhelmingly supports Democrat
candidates over Republican candidates. I think that's healthy, that's good
for us. Take the band date off and let Wall
Street know that we we're not We don't represent you,
we represent real people. And when we figure that out
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and don't count out to corporate America who wants to
send they because they want to make more money. They
want to send all these jobs at China they they want,
they want, they're they're beating up on all of us
on Capitol Hill every single day to get rid of
these tariffs because they know that it affects their bottom
line because they've moved so many of their jobs and
so much of their supply chain to China. And I
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tell them every day, well move it back home, you know.
And and one of the one of the biggest, one
of the biggest pieces of news that hasn't got enough
enough attention is Apple bringing iPhone production out of China
and moving into India. Indie. India is an ally, so
that's that's good. And it diminishes China, so that's good.
So you'll see a lot of that happening as well.
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We want that production to come to the United States
of America. But when we see announcements like that of
major businesses pulling investments out of China, that's good for
America and we should celebrate it. And that's good for
working class Americans. That's good for this new Republican Party
in our base. To let them know that we care
more about you. The Democrats care more about China. Remind them,
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Remind them of that every single day.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's interesting because the Democrats are running on all of
these social issues, and they have been for a couple
of years. It didn't work. In twenty four they tried
to continue their abortion narrative. Obviously, that was big for
Gretchen Whitmer in twenty twenty two, and she made an
interesting comment she said, We're going to eat Indiana's lunch
based on solely the access to abortion. She thought that
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businesses were going to move to Michigan because of that,
and that was what she campaigned on.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
We are going to be dominating.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Manufacturing because all of these businesses will be so upset
with Indiana they will leave and they will come to
Michigan based solely on social issues. Obviously, that hasn't happened Michigan.
Just there was just a new report done that Michigan
is forty fourth in best to live in. That's the
state of Michigan. Two years after she ran on she
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was going to eat Indiana's lunch. What you just said
earlier in this podcast about everything that's coming to Indiana.
She can't catch a break when it comes to bringing
a business to Michigan. To save her life, she was
literally on the tarmac at the airport waiting for Donald
Trump with open arms the other day because he's saving
the air force base here.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
She's got nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
What do Democrats campaign on in twenty six They're so crazy?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I mean that whether it's boys playing in girls' sports
or right now, by the way, they're opposing this tax
cut deal. And this isn't these This isn't about corporate
tax rates anymore. This is about extending the tax cuts
on regular, normal, everyday working Americans, and Democrats are opposed
to it. I mean, remind them, Remind everyone that you
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can that the Democrats want your taxes to go up,
and it's going to It'll be the biggest tax increase
in American history if Democrats get their way and we
don't extend the individual tax rates from the tax cuts
and jobs ax. So how can you convince me or
my dad or any any blue collar American that that
Democrats are better for represent you better than Republicans do.
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It's just not the case anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Your colleagues are storming prisons to get illegal aliens out right.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Is that the Democrats are crazy town? I mean that
there are a few every now and then you talk
to a Democrat privately on Capitol Hill, and they know
their parties crazy. They're trying to dig out of the hole,
but they can't. They're stuck in the mud. The Democrats
are the best thing that we have going for us,
So we got we got to seize the moment, work
with President Trump, and push the Trump Agenda, the America
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First Agenda, as far as we can. If we succeed
at that, then we will be the Party of the
working Class for a long time to come. It's not
just something borrowed or loaned to us by President Trump.
It's something that we can cement for the Republican Party,
and that's how we win national elections for a long time.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Let's take a quick commercill break. Will continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. People need to get in the
mindset that we're going to win the midterms. The Democrats
have been very good at gathering their activists and being
out there, and you see them. I think you have
to recognize when you see people on the street corner protesting,
they are still organized. They are still getting people together.
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We've got to stay out there. We can't sit back
and go, oh, we've got this. Donald Trump is this
hero to manufacturers. And that's what you're saying. The working
class is not going to just stay with us because
Donald Trump is out there. We have to stay out there.
Last night we went to Musak County in Michigan. The
room was full, there were people standing in the back.
Stay out there or these people will be disenfranchised.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
They will be upset that you are not continuing to
talk to them. If you are a Republican.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, I really believe this. I mean, for my dad
again is like my he's my my focus group. I mean,
he was, he's one of these voters. He voted Democrat
most of his life. He voted with the union because
the they the Democrats were the party of the working
people is what the Democrat what the Unions would say.
But over time he knew that wasn't true. I mean,
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he was excited when Ross Perot ran for president. We
had the Paro for President bumper sticker on the truck
and was I remember being embarrassed about that when I
was a kid. But he liked that because Pio was
talking about the same things, right, I mean, he was
talking about China, he was talking about jobs going to Mexico,
and that resonated with my dad. And then the second
candidate that my dad got really excited about wasn't me,
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It was Donald Trump coming down the escalator because he
was talking about being tough on China and bringing these
jobs back. And President Trump was talking about how bad
of a deal NAFTA was, and my dad, my dad
was right. President Trump has been talking about these things
since long before he ran for president. He was talking
about our jobs going overseas in the back even back
in the eighties when he never been dreamed of being
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president one day. So this is a new Republican party,
but we got to we got to keep these voters
with us by doing what we said we were going
to do. And that's that's where Republicans fault have all
in short, for way too long before President Trump began
to hold us accountable for it. We got to extend
these tax cuts on working class people. We got to
secure the border. We have to cut illegal immigration coming
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into our country like the President is doing, but the
Congress has to do it. We have to. President Trump
is doing all this right by himself by executive order.
The Congress has to pass these bills, pass these laws
so that the next time, you know, God forbid if
a Democrat follows President Trump. I don't think that's going
to happen. I don't want that to happen, but that
the next Joe Biden can come come along and just
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do away with everything that, all the good things President
Trump did with the stroke of a pen. We can't
let him do that. We have to We have to
pass our bills and pass them into law so they
can't be undone by an executive order by the next president.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Absolutely, that's what we keep saying. And we are better
right now because we have you in the Senate. Senator
Jim Banks, thank you so much, thank you for all
you do, and thank you for being on.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
The podcast today be with you.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Thank you absolutely, thank you all for joining us on
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Speaker 3 (29:09):
Have a blessing,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we have Senator
Jim Banks with us. He was elected in twenty twenty
four to represent the state of Indiana. Oh, this is
so funny. In my notes, Sarah, who works with me,
is from Indiana, and she wrote go Hoosiers, which I'm
not going to say, but I think it's funny that
she put it in there to try to make me say, Senator,
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thank you so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Great to be with you, Tutor, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Absolutely sure we.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know, I am a Michigan girl, so I will
just say that I have been wanting to talk to
you for a while.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We've been trying to get you on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm really excited about what you've been able to take
to Washington from Indiana, and it is important to me
because we are all in the Midwest here together. The
reason I don't want to say go Hoosiers is because
you've taken a lot of our business. And I do
remember when you guys put up the billboards saying thank
you to Gretchen.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Whimmer for a lot of good reasons. And you know
it's sad because I love Michigan. I vacation in Michigan
with my family every summer. I grew up going to Michigan.
I live just forty five minutes from the state line,
and Michigan has so much to offer. But because of
your current leadership in your state, you guys have slipped
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further and further behind in the metrics that matter, and
that's creating good paying, working class jobs for the next generation.
And Indiana's benefited from that. But I hope you guys
turned the page and elect leadership in your state that
will copy some of the things that we've done in
Indiana and change that because a strong Michigan is good
for the Midwest and good for Indiana too, and I
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think Tutor, you're going to be a big part of
that for a long time to come.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Well, thank you. I appreciated that, and what you're saying.
I have been saying this, and actually we were just
last night. We were at.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
An event with a bunch of people from the middle
of the state and we were talking about that exact message,
because I hear so many politicians going out and talking
about we're going to have education, We're going to bring
education back, and we're gonna get lower taxes and we're
gonna do this, and we're going to do that, but
there's no how. And what you just said is so important.
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Bring high paying jobs, good paying jobs back to the state.
That is what Michigan has not had in so long.
But Gretchen Whitmer has paid a billion dollars of our money,
taken our money and paid it to corporations that promised
those good paying jobs to the state of Michigan, and
we didn't even get one fifth of what they promised
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for that money. So you've you've been kind of talking
about this lately. It's important that we don't turn our
backs on who we are now what this new Republican
Party is. Can you kind of explain that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, I've thought about a lot about this over the years.
I mean, you think about Michigan's economy, it's a lot
like Indiana's economy. And I come from the Fort Wayne area,
not we feed a lot off of Detroit. The auto industry. Actually,
Indiana has the most manufacturing jobs per capita of any
state in the country, and there's a lot of reasons
for that. I mean, we're it's the auto industry, it's
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the steel industry not far from where I live. We
have the orthopedic capital the world, zimmer biomet and Depew
making medical devices where we have a rich manufacturing, blue
collar working class tradition in Indiana. And this is this
is why Indiana is such a pro Trump state. I mean,
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I believe this through and through. Donald Trump represents my
state as well as he represents any state in the
country because he represents these these blue collar working class
voters that feel that have felt for too long like
politicians from all parties have abandoned them. But Donald Trump
sees them, he hears them. He wants to build a
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better life for them, you know. Tutor. For me, it's
personal because I grew up in a trailer park. My
dad was a union factory worker. He made axles at
a factory in Fort Wayne called Dana, and my mom.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Was they were one of my customers. That's crazy. We
used to make the axle housing you got.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's a great a great example of what I'm talking about.
My dad was a he was a part of the
steel workers union. He had a really good paying job
for over thirty years. He got a pension out of it.
He put food on the table. We worked our way
up in the to the middle class because of my
dad's good his strong work ethic, and a really good opportunity.
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But when you look at factory jobs today compared to
twenty five thirty years ago, my dad, my dad only
retired maybe ten years ago from the factory. But you
go back in time a little bit to that, maybe
to the eighties, and the factory these factory jobs today
aren't keeping up with You don't make a whole lot
more today in a lot of these factories than what
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you did back then. And that and that's that's because
we've let we've let that manufacturing base, those blue collar
jobs fall further and further behind it until Donald Trump
came along and the the trade policies that he's pushed for,
the immigration policies that he pushes for, the four that
these tariffs, I mean that what President Trump is doing
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with reciprocal tariffs, this is the just the beginning of
reorienting the global economy to bring these jobs back, not
not to allow these jobs to go overseas any longer,
to save that manufacturing base. And I that to me,
that is in essence the new Republican Party. When we
focus on those voters, when we focus on voters like
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my dad, who, by the way, when Donald Trump came
down the escalator, my dad was for him from day one.
I told my dad, you're crazy. He can't win. I
didn't see what my dad saw, but my dad saw
it instantly. I mean, this was the guy who was
talking about what he cared about, being tough on China,
issues like that that my dad cared about. And and
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Donald Trump has transformed the Republican Party, this new Republican
Party that that we're taught that you're a part of,
that I'm a part of that we're talking about. We
have to keep our part. One day when Donald Trump
leaves office three and a half years from now, and
hopefully JD. Vance and Jade Vance succeeds him, he becomes
the president, and we keep a Republican in the White House.
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But when Donald Trump is gone, we have to make
sure that the Republican Party stays firmly planted with that
America First ideology, that the principles of Donald Trump and
not go backwards to the Liz Cheney Republican Party, the
corporate Republican Party that loves Wall Street more than they
love Main Street and small towns and working class voters
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or will lose elections forever if we do that, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
There's no distinction between us and the Democrats. And that's
what we were talking about just last night. I said,
you hear Democrats constantly saying we've got to make people
pay their fair share, don't give.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Them money to the billionaires.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
But you look in the state of Michigan and there's
almost been kind of this uniparty that has been funding
the billionaires over the small business owners, and the small
business owners are really the job creators.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
That are making the jobs, that are the good paying jobs.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
There's one guy I know that had a small business
in gren Rapids and he probably had about seventy five employees.
He ended up selling his company for hundreds of millions
of dollars, and when he sold the company, he gave
every single employee a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Those are the.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Kinds of people we want to grow, we want them
to want to be in our state. Instead, we have
Democrats that are giving tax relief, no property taxes to
billionaire investors who are coming in from out of state,
sometimes buying up all of our property they get they
don't pay property taxes. That pays our schools, that pays
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our police, that pays for everything local. And somehow it's
the Democrats giving the billionaires the break, and we're getting
blamed for it. But that's the party we don't want
to be a part of. That's where I think we
have to step away and we have to invest in
the small businesses and the people who are creating the
jobs that are creating wealth.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Because as you create wealth for people, everything else will rise.
All of you will have more energy, you will have
better schools, you will have more people building homes. That
will all rise.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's so true. If you go back to if you
go back to the election in twenty twelve, when Mitt
Romney ran against Barack Obama, Wall Street supported Mitt Romney
by about a margin of three to one in campaign
donations over Barack Obama. And that is the old Republican Party.
If you fast forward to today, go back to the
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election of twenty twenty, for example, Biden versus Trump, he
was the exact opposite. Wall Street supported Joe Biden by
a margin of four to one in campaign donations over
Donald Trump. Because Wall Street hates Donald Trump. They know
that Donald Trump isn't going to let Wall Street sell
our jobs out to China any longer in this whole
tariff trade that President Trump is pushing for right now
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proves it. That's why they don't like him, because President
Trump puts the working men and women of this country first.
Those jobs for working class voters, blue collar Americans like
my family. Donald Trump's a lot more focused on that
than he is Wall Street. And that's what's different about
today in the past, and Tutor, like you're saying, we
got to keep the Republican Party centered on that and
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comes it becomes very important right now because right now,
as we speak on Capitol Hill, we're going through this
Reconciliation Bill, the one big beautiful bill to extend the
Trump tax cuts. And I think, frankly, I got elected
in twenty sixteen to the House when President Trump was
elected the first time, and that first big thing that
we did was the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. And
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there was a big difference back then. We had Paul Ryan,
we had McConnell leading the Senate, we had Republican majorities,
but they weren't Republicans that were aligned with Donald Trump
and his agenda. And one of the big mistakes that
Republicans made back then was They over emphasized the corporate
tax cuts and they made those permanent, but they sunset
the tax cuts on individuals, working class families, small businesses.
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And that's why now now we're back here again today
working on that. We can't make that mistake again. We've
got to make those tax cuts permanent. We have to
focus all of the other tax credits and business tax credits,
research and development. All that stuff is important for the economy,
but what should be our top priority are the working
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men and women of this country and making sure that
they get tax relief and that we extend it permanently.
And that's what Republicans on Capitol Hill are wrestling with
at the moment. We have to get that right. We
have to let these voters know that you gave us
the white you gave us back, President Trump, you gave
us majorities. The Republican Party today represents you more than
we more and better than we've ever represented you before.
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And we want you to remain Republicans, not go back
to becoming Democrats because we didn't get it right.
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Speaker 1 (12:05):
People like yourself and others who have become more involved
in Republican politics but also have that background in manufacturing,
have an understanding of the national security implications of this,
and Donald Trump also has a grasp on the national
security implications of not having manufacturing. He's been going out
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and talking quite a bit about the ninety thousand factories
that went out of business. You said your dad worked
at a Dana shop. Dana actually closed a few factories
in Michigan over the past few years. In the past
two decades, we've had data shops closed. In fact, the
actual housing that we were making used to ship directly
to Wisconsin, and then when we took it over, we
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actually took it from Michigan. This is how bizarre the
state of global manufacturing is. It went from Michigan to Leon, France,
back to Oshkosh, Wisconsin for a military vehicle. We were
making military axle housings for data and this is and
this is where it would go all across the world
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to come back to make sure that we had the
vehicles to go over to Afghanistan.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Now, think about how bizarre that is.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And if you're Donald Trump, I mean, even if you
think about it from the automotive standpoint, like the automotive
six sigma, it's like, you know, the least amount of touches,
the least amount of.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Travel for a part here.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
You have a part that actually goes from the United
States to France and back to a different state in
the United States. It makes no sense. And that's why
you see Donald Trump saying bring it back home. And
when people go, oh, my gosh, it's going to cost
so much more money. Wait a minute, think of the
logistics of that. If you've been in the industry, you
know you're paying for an entire container to go overseas
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and then come back and then travel back across the
United States.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
The cost can be cut.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It can be done in the United States, and jobs
like your dad's can be saved, and also their wages
can be increased.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's exactly right. I mean, you say, save these jobs,
and the country is stronger for it. And it makes
good business sense too. And a lot of it, as
you know, Tutor from your background, a lot of this
is tax policy. You don't you don't reward companies for
sending these good, good paying blue collar jobs to China
and Mexico, when in fact, when I was a kid,
NAFTA was a four letter word because my dad, my
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dad always got this, he saw it firsthand. I mean
that that data factory in Fort Wayne when I was
a kid, was booming three shifts every day, like overflow
parking lots. I mean it was, and then over the
years it's declined. You drive by, you drive by factories
like that. Today they're not doing as well. So when
when President Trump, I was in the Oval Office when
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I think maybe you were too, when President Trump signed
the Liberation Day that you were at the White House
around that time. Yes, yeah, he signed the reciprocal tariffs
and immediately we started hearing good GM in Fort Wayne's
made it an announcement immediately that they were adding hundreds
of jobs and they were adding more overtime for their workers.
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ELI Lilly, which is a huge part of Indiana, a
pharmaceutical company. They announced they were bringing twenty nine billion
dollars of pharmaceutical manufacturing out in China and moving it
to the United States. Roach Diagnostics announced earlier this week
fifty billion dollars of investment that they're bringing back to
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the United States, including a big announcement in Indiana. We
had a made in America bicycle company in Columbus, Indiana
make a million dollar announcement to make bicycles in Indiana.
Honda Honda announced they're going to make the next generation
Honda Civic in Indiana, not in Mexico, not in Japan,
but in my home state. The because of the tariffs,
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because these policies actually matter to incentivizing these companies to
do what they need to do in the United States.
It's good for our country, it's good for our workers,
and it's a sign that this new Republican Party gets it.
We represent these people that have become a big part
of our voting coalition. We got to keep it that way.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, we are these people. This is us. That's That's
what I keep saying to people. I'm like, this is us,
this is who we are.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
The people who come in and they tell you, you know,
I've I've made billions of dollars over my lifetime and
let me lead the state.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Do they really know who you are?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
You know, you have to you have to find out
if the person understands who you are. And I think
elections are different than they were years ago. We kind
of just trusted who was in our party. But you
make such a great point. The party is different now.
You have to listen to what the people are saying.
Don't let us go back to the past. Make sure
we keep progressing into the future. Last night, when I
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was at this event, one of the gentlemen came up
to me afterward and he said, I was sitting next
to a lifelong Democrat.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He said, he just came over to the Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And he said, I think he's really a Republican, but
he's trying to figure out exactly, you know, people so
many people are politically homeless right now, exactly where he fits.
He said, he listened to what you were saying, and
I heard him going.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh, yeah, uh huh. He said. At the end, he
was clapping. He said it was genuine.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He really felt like you understood what he needed. And
he's like, here's a guy who was a lifelong Democrat.
But I was looking at the income in Michigan because
you talk about Indiana and that is I think it's great.
I'm jealous of it. Why is it happening there and
not here? And I look at the policies in Michigan,
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and this is why elections matter, especially on the local level.
We have so much bread tape to get a business here.
They don't even look at Michigan. Energy is too high,
the barrier to entry is too long, you can't break ground,
you can't build a building. Licenses are too hard to get,
and then they're expensive. The Democrat regulation, the regulatory system
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under their rule is so abusive, but no one will
come to the state. And so when I look at
the income level, I was looking at the median income
in all of our different counties. In the red counties
it has raised with inflation, but nobody's life has improved.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It's just stayed the same. In the blue counties, no race.
They have stayed at the.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Same level they were at from the recession from two
thousand and eight to today.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Can you imagine all of these years have passed.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
This is a These are communities that are broken and
people complain all it's because of education.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
How can you focus on your child's education when you
are constantly in fight or flight.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And in Indiana that's what under Governor Daniels and Governor Pence,
we focused on creating that sort of environment and our
state to attract these jobs, laying the groundwork for what
for a moment like this, when manufacturing jobs come back,
they're going to come to Indiana because we have a
strong tax base, we have the education reform efforts at
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our State House have made our schools better across the board.
We've created that type of environment. So those state policies
tootor really matter. But what President Trump is doing with
the tariffs and what he's doing with this America First
agenda is going to make our country at large, I think,
stronger than it's ever been in our lifetime. And the
big reason why is he understands that you can use
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trade policy to influence other countries around the world and
from a from a state craft perspective, to put put
America and our interests and our shared interests with other
countries ahead of China's interest And what he's doing with
tariffs is reorienting the global economy to diminish China, which
is our biggest adversary, militarily, economically, rock China back so
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that America can seize the moment and be that leader
that we used to be in the world. But we've
we the Democrats over Obama and Biden especially, they were
so pro China and sold us out to China. And
the Democrat Party has become the pro China Party, I mean,
because they've married up with Wall Street and Wall Street interest.
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They've sold us out to China so much that President
Trump is taking this moment to try to diminish that
and get America back on his feed and bring these
jobs back to our country so that we could be
strong again. And that's what this agenda is all about.
He's just getting started. He is three and a half
years left to go. He's not going to miss a beat.
Every single day Donald Trump gets up and he reminds
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us we can't waste a single day. We got to
seize every single day that we have to bring these
jobs back and make this country what we know that
it can be again. I'm proud to be a part
of that.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
But tough on China is a rebrand for us too,
if we're being honest. Republicans were big on China. It
was globalization and China was the next best thing. It
was going to be low prices and this is going
to build up our economy and their economy. And I
think John McLaughlin said Trump's polster. He came out and
he said, right now, these are Trump voters, but the
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GOP is just renting them. And I think that's because
their memories are deep on this stuff. You know, people
know that this was what the Republican Party used to
be preaching and Donald Trump has changed that. However, you
see the mainstream media attacking him regularly on these tariffs
from China. They're saying that he doesn't know what he's doing.
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Now he's four months in, he's already cutting trade deals.
He's got this ninety day trade deal with China. They're
panicking because they've never seen They've just never seen this
in politics before, someone who understands negotiating and understands how
it impacts the country. So how do we convince voters
we're not going back, We're going to be tough on China.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And Donald Trump knows what he's doing with the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah. I think it goes back to those those fundraising
numbers I talked about how Wall Street overwhelmingly supports Democrat
candidates over Republican candidates. I think that's healthy, that's good
for us. Take the band date off and let Wall
Street know that we we're not We don't represent you,
we represent real people. And when we figure that out
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and don't count out to corporate America who wants to
send they because they want to make more money. They
want to send all these jobs at China they they want,
they want, they're they're beating up on all of us
on Capitol Hill every single day to get rid of
these tariffs because they know that it affects their bottom
line because they've moved so many of their jobs and
so much of their supply chain to China. And I
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tell them every day, well move it back home, you know.
And and one of the one of the biggest, one
of the biggest pieces of news that hasn't got enough
enough attention is Apple bringing iPhone production out of China
and moving into India. Indie. India is an ally, so
that's that's good. And it diminishes China, so that's good.
So you'll see a lot of that happening as well.
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We want that production to come to the United States
of America. But when we see announcements like that of
major businesses pulling investments out of China, that's good for
America and we should celebrate it. And that's good for
working class Americans. That's good for this new Republican Party
in our base. To let them know that we care
more about you. The Democrats care more about China. Remind them,
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Remind them of that every single day.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's interesting because the Democrats are running on all of
these social issues, and they have been for a couple
of years. It didn't work. In twenty four they tried
to continue their abortion narrative. Obviously, that was big for
Gretchen Whitmer in twenty twenty two, and she made an
interesting comment she said, We're going to eat Indiana's lunch
based on solely the access to abortion. She thought that
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businesses were going to move to Michigan because of that,
and that was what she campaigned on.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
We are going to be dominating.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Manufacturing because all of these businesses will be so upset
with Indiana they will leave and they will come to
Michigan based solely on social issues. Obviously, that hasn't happened Michigan.
Just there was just a new report done that Michigan
is forty fourth in best to live in. That's the
state of Michigan. Two years after she ran on she
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was going to eat Indiana's lunch. What you just said
earlier in this podcast about everything that's coming to Indiana.
She can't catch a break when it comes to bringing
a business to Michigan. To save her life, she was
literally on the tarmac at the airport waiting for Donald
Trump with open arms the other day because he's saving
the air force base here.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
She's got nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
What do Democrats campaign on in twenty six They're so crazy?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I mean that whether it's boys playing in girls' sports
or right now, by the way, they're opposing this tax
cut deal. And this isn't these This isn't about corporate
tax rates anymore. This is about extending the tax cuts
on regular, normal, everyday working Americans, and Democrats are opposed
to it. I mean, remind them, Remind everyone that you
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can that the Democrats want your taxes to go up,
and it's going to It'll be the biggest tax increase
in American history if Democrats get their way and we
don't extend the individual tax rates from the tax cuts
and jobs ax. So how can you convince me or
my dad or any any blue collar American that that
Democrats are better for represent you better than Republicans do.
(25:17):
It's just not the case anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Your colleagues are storming prisons to get illegal aliens out right.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Is that the Democrats are crazy town? I mean that
there are a few every now and then you talk
to a Democrat privately on Capitol Hill, and they know
their parties crazy. They're trying to dig out of the hole,
but they can't. They're stuck in the mud. The Democrats
are the best thing that we have going for us,
So we got we got to seize the moment, work
with President Trump, and push the Trump Agenda, the America
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First Agenda, as far as we can. If we succeed
at that, then we will be the Party of the
working Class for a long time to come. It's not
just something borrowed or loaned to us by President Trump.
It's something that we can cement for the Republican Party,
and that's how we win national elections for a long time.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Let's take a quick commercill break. Will continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. People need to get in the
mindset that we're going to win the midterms. The Democrats
have been very good at gathering their activists and being
out there, and you see them. I think you have
to recognize when you see people on the street corner protesting,
they are still organized. They are still getting people together.
(26:21):
We've got to stay out there. We can't sit back
and go, oh, we've got this. Donald Trump is this
hero to manufacturers. And that's what you're saying. The working
class is not going to just stay with us because
Donald Trump is out there. We have to stay out there.
Last night we went to Musak County in Michigan. The
room was full, there were people standing in the back.
Stay out there or these people will be disenfranchised.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
They will be upset that you are not continuing to
talk to them. If you are a Republican.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, I really believe this. I mean, for my dad
again is like my he's my my focus group. I mean,
he was, he's one of these voters. He voted Democrat
most of his life. He voted with the union because
the they the Democrats were the party of the working
people is what the Democrat what the Unions would say.
But over time he knew that wasn't true. I mean,
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he was excited when Ross Perot ran for president. We
had the Paro for President bumper sticker on the truck
and was I remember being embarrassed about that when I
was a kid. But he liked that because Pio was
talking about the same things, right, I mean, he was
talking about China, he was talking about jobs going to Mexico,
and that resonated with my dad. And then the second
candidate that my dad got really excited about wasn't me,
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It was Donald Trump coming down the escalator because he
was talking about being tough on China and bringing these
jobs back. And President Trump was talking about how bad
of a deal NAFTA was, and my dad, my dad
was right. President Trump has been talking about these things
since long before he ran for president. He was talking
about our jobs going overseas in the back even back
in the eighties when he never been dreamed of being
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president one day. So this is a new Republican party,
but we got to we got to keep these voters
with us by doing what we said we were going
to do. And that's that's where Republicans fault have all
in short, for way too long before President Trump began
to hold us accountable for it. We got to extend
these tax cuts on working class people. We got to
secure the border. We have to cut illegal immigration coming
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into our country like the President is doing, but the
Congress has to do it. We have to. President Trump
is doing all this right by himself by executive order.
The Congress has to pass these bills, pass these laws
so that the next time, you know, God forbid if
a Democrat follows President Trump. I don't think that's going
to happen. I don't want that to happen, but that
the next Joe Biden can come come along and just
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do away with everything that, all the good things President
Trump did with the stroke of a pen. We can't
let him do that. We have to We have to
pass our bills and pass them into law so they
can't be undone by an executive order by the next president.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Absolutely, that's what we keep saying. And we are better
right now because we have you in the Senate. Senator
Jim Banks, thank you so much, thank you for all
you do, and thank you for being on.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
The podcast today be with you.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Thank you absolutely, thank you all for joining us on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go
to Tutordison podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Have a blessing,
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