September 28, 2024 • 36 mins
Kamala agrees to sit-down interview with MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle, who just appeared on Bill Maher's show to defend Harris for not doing interviews. Will MSNBC edit the Kamala interview like CNN did? Why is Biden suddenly everywhere? Biden tells The View he would've won the election. Biden had said he wouldn't drop out unless the Lord Almighty came down from heaven.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome and everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Klay
Travis en Buck Sexton Show. Oh my, forty days and
forty nine got not a lot of time here before
the election. I had to check my math on that one.
I'm like, if it's forty days, it's also forty ninths.
Not a lot of time before this election, Clay, it
(00:21):
is coming upon us so quickly. What do we have
in the docket in the hopper for you today? We've
got the latest Kamala Harris interview scheduled tonight with Stephanie
Rule of MSNBC. We will explain why this is truly hilarious.
(00:42):
It's even it's even funnier that I bet most of
you realize. And we're going to tell you those details.
The Kamala hide the candidate campaign is continuing to just
cover itself in glory. We'll talk about that. We've also
got Joe Biden today on the view, and you know,
(01:04):
he's rubbing it in a little bit. You know, I
just we just had we just had stategate. I just
had to put the credit card down and take care
of business here in Miami. And now Biden's telling everybody
he would have won, Clay, you see this w won
or rather would still win whatever, right, I mean, he
would win this upcoming election if he were still in it.
We shall discuss that the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence,
(01:27):
which is an entirely unnecessary position created in the massive
bloat after nine to eleven, but put that aside. Director
of National Intelligence has a lord of the Trump campaign
of specific and operational threats from Iran to assassinate him.
We also have updates from Butler Pennsylvania. What happened? What
(01:49):
went so wrong there? The absolute disaster from a secret
service perspective of Butler Pennsylvania. We have more for you
on that. We'll also get into the latest polling Clay,
for example, Morning Joe saying that Kamala was up six
percent nationally. Why even say a poll like that out loud?
(02:09):
People like me and you are just going to make
fun of them for it, But they did. We'll get
to that. I want to start with this Stephanie Rule
stuff today in case you missed it, This isn't in
case you missed it situation, Clay, you saw this, We've
texted about this. Stephanie Rule was on the Bill Mahers show. Okay,
she was on the Bill Mahers Show, and she was
(02:34):
making the case. She made the case. I should say
she made the case for a why it's totally fine
that Kamala is not appearing in interviews anywhere. This is
what some of what she said to The New York
Times Brett Stevens, play one, are you going to vote
for Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm not not running for perfect She's running against Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We had two choices, and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So there are some things you might not know her
answer to.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And in twenty twenty four, unlike twenty sixteen, for a
lot of the American people.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
We know exactly what Trump will do, who he is,
and the kind of threat he is to democracy. I
don't think it's a lot to ask her to sit
down for a real interview. As a personal of her
piece in which she describes as her her feelings of
growing up and opening a nice lot. Then I would
just say to that, when you moved to Nirvana, give
(03:26):
me your real estate broker's number and I'll be your
nextal name.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
We don't live there, Clay. This is perfect right. She's
straight up saying, look, buddy, whatever it takes for Kamala,
we don't live in Nirvana if she has to play
this game and not do any interviews. I stand behind that,
and she is the Kamala campaign choice for the next
interview right after this.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So I'm torn on this in a couple of different directions. One,
I wonder if she sold herself out on Bill Maher
because the Mamala team had already agreed to do an
interview with her and she didn't want to lose the interview.
So I'm curious which of these perspectives you would take.
Or Kamala's team saw her on Friday, just Genue flecked
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at the altar of Kamala's amazingness and said, that's who
we have to talk to at MSNBC. Do you think
she had the interview and she was trying to protect
it or she got it based on what she said
on mar I am all it's a fair question, a
fair binary.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I am all in on option number two. Clay. I
do not believe for a second that they would have
scheduled a Stephanie Rule interview and it wouldn't have leaked,
and then it just so happened she was on Bill Maher.
I think that they realize that they need to do
something because even Brett Stevens, who hate Clay Brett Stevens,
despises Trump, and he's like, look, I hate Trump, but
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Kamala has to actually show up and ask and answer questions.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Here is something that I think is interesting about this
interview tonight is Kamala has been so disrespectful of left
wing traditional media. She won't talk to him, She won't
answer any of their questions. That she's actually putting these
hagiographic media figures in a tough spot. Because if Stephanie
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Rule does an interview and doesn't ask any questions buck,
there are twenty things that you could ask Kamala Harris
that she hasn't answered that actually are very substantive, newsworthy questions.
There's not very much you could ask Trump in comparison,
because he's basically told you what he thinks on everything.
Doesn't mean I mean we're gonna have Trump on again
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on this show. We've been talking with his team sometime
in October. There are a lot of questions we will
ask him, but there aren't the glaring, wide open questions
that Kamala still has, like why did you say that
building a border wall was racist? And now you want
to build a border wall. Why did you bail out
BLM protesters and now you say we need to avoid
(06:06):
defunding the police, right, I mean, why did you say
you opposed paper straws, Now you're for them. Why were
you for the death penalty? Now you can't are against
the death penalty? Now you can't tell us. Kamala has
tried to take every perspective on every issue, which means
there are tons of ripe questions which she could be asked.
Yet Stephanie Rule has basically already labeled herself as propaganda media,
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which puts her in a really tough spot.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Like Kamala's disrespect of media has actually painted her biggest
cheerleaders into a corner, because what they should do is
ask questions of someone who wants the most powerful job
in America. Instead, what they're gonna do is burnish her
sene and that looks too much even for regular people
like propaganda.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Look, it would be preposterous if President Trump hadn't done
any interview. I mean, I know this is alternate universe stuff, right,
we all understand President Trump is a medium where we are. Yeah,
it would be preposterous if President Trump first of all,
had just become the candidate. Suddenly I have never got
never got a vote, you know, never got to vote,
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became the candidate in the middle of the summer, right
before the r NC, didn't do really any I think
he's on what would have been too that Kamma has
done so far right, And then in response to pressure
would say, all right, fine, I'm going to do a
hard hitting interview with Clay and Buck. Now I'll just
use us as an example. Yeah, we asked the president,
(07:34):
We asked President Trump real questions. But we are both
on record vociferously as Trump voters wanting Trump to win
and advocating for him publicly to win, which I believe
is just the entirely honest position that really everyone of
media should have. Who are you pushing for? Don't play
the game, Clay, she is a Comma up partisan. Yeah,
(07:58):
And in response to she won't do you any interviews
that probe who she is. She's sitting down with an
avowed Kamala partisan.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's absurd and it's embarrassing not only for the Kamala
Harris campaign, but I think it really puts this journalist
or opinionist on the spot because again she should there.
I'm not even kidding. There are twenty questions that at
least are outstanding about where Kamala comes down on a
variety of different perspectives out there that she legitimately hasn't answered.
(08:30):
And this journalist in quotation Marks brags about how you
shouldn't hold Kamala accountable and it doesn't matter what she
says because she's not Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And then she gets the interview and.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Buck All Stephanie Ruhle did on Bill Maher's show would
say what the majority of Kamala Harris's voters actually believe.
They're not voting for Kamala Harris, just like they didn't
vote for Joe Biden. They're voting against Trump. Seventy five
to eighty percent at least of Kamala's voters and Joe
Biden's voters are not supporters of theirs. It's why you
(09:05):
don't see anybody with a Kamala hat, why you don't
see anybody with a Biden hat. It's all anti Trump
dogma that they have bought into.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And I think Clay this has summed up very well.
You know, there are some Democrat phrases, quotes that have
always stayed with me, especially since I've been working in
this world of politics and commentary. There's Obama's elections have consequences, which,
say what you will, that was a warning of what
was to come. Right, It's true elections do have consequences.
(09:34):
But there was also Harry Reid. As you and I
have talked about this one, Harry Reid just made up
a completely absurd line. I mean, Mitt Romney is a
boy scout. I mean Mitt Romney is not a guy
who is cheating on his taxes and breaking any laws.
And yet Harry Reid said that Mitt Romney hadn't paid
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taxes in ten years, which is completely I mean that
would he'd be going to prison for your And then
when Mitt Romney lost, what did Harry Reid say? He
didn't win? Did he? The point is he knew he
was lying and it worked. And the point is with
Kamala and her entire campaign, they know what they are
doing and they don't care. They know it's a fraud.
Clay to your point about who they're voting for and
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how they're viewing it. Whatever with their attitude is whatever
it takes, whatever it takes.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I will say, the suddenness with which she is doing
interviews and now demanding the second debate pay attention to
what they do, not what they say. Her polling has
her losing, Buck and her polling has her losing. And
the difficult spot they're in is the record reflects that
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the more people see Kamala, the less they like her.
And they were able to hide her from July twenty first,
basically all the way through the first presidential debate other
than that strange sit down Lifeguard inner with Dana Bash
and CNN that Kamala Harris did, but by and large,
she's otherwise done a lot of local news interviews that
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don't push her very much. She's sitting down with a
propagandist here and I don't know if you find this
as interesting as I do.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Buck.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
But suddenly Joe Biden is back on the media circuit.
They hid Biden for several months, but now he went
on We're going to play some audio for you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He went on the View today.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
He's been holding He had a cabinet meeting for the
first time in eleven months. That feels to me, and
I haven't seen it written yet, but it feels to
me like a little bit of a shot across the
bow at Kamala Harris by Biden because it ties them together.
He went on the View today and said, I love
Kamala because she stands for everything that I believe in.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
She's just an extension of.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Me, which is the talking point the Trump team would
love for him to have.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We have to get more into this interview on the
View with Biden, because first of all, it's he's trying
to he knows what he's supposed to say, and he
doesn't want to say it. Okay, that's the truth. He's
supposed to say. I stepped aside because I knew Kamala
could win and the polls were against me, and this
was the right. He can't really say it, though, So
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he does this. Oh, we'll get to it. He wants
to leave open the door, Clay to if you idiots
had just left me in, I would win, and Kamala
is a joke. She's gonna lose. He's leaving. Don't you
see it that way? I mean, when you see the
way he's hedging. Yeah, he's leaving open the door. And
I'm telling you some of you were still You're like,
(12:34):
what happened? How did Buck Island go underwater Democrats with
a massive own goal here, Biden would be he would
have rebounded, and he would be I'm actually like Team
Biden on this one. He would have rebounded it had
been in better shape than Kamala's in. Right now, I
truly believe that we will.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Not get an official verdict until all of the exit
polls come out. We see how everything goes in the States,
But my goodness, the recriminations. If Trump wins and Kamala
underperforms all of Biden's numbers in twenty twenty, which I
think she is now, she might still be able to
win by four thousand votes or something somewhere. It could
be super tight. But I think she's going to underperform
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Biden in every battleground state. And if that's right, oh boy,
you are going to see some amazing Monday morning quarterbacking
as soon as this data starts coming out, and Buck,
I think you're starting to see it now. And again,
I would just ask you, why did Biden suddenly have
his first cabinet meeting in eleven months on Friday? Why
is he on the View Live today? Why did he
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travel to the UN and give a speech this week?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know what? I'll tell you. I have a theory
about this. I want to get into you. I'll tell
you why Biden's doing this now and how he's positioning it.
In a minute, Well, let me give you the ultimate fu.
By the way, what if he showed up at that
Al Smith dinner that Kamala wouldn't go to. I mean,
let's hold this. Let's hold this because you're thinking along
the same lines I'm thinking. Look.
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Speaker 4 (15:08):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay Buck,
as we went to break, and we're going to dive
into this because I do find the not only politics
of this to be fascinating and very favorable for Trump,
that Joe Biden has suddenly emerged back on the national circuit.
It also ties in Buck with I think Biden hates Kamala.
(15:31):
I mean, I think he's really kind of giving her
the middle finger. And I asked the question as we
went to break, you know Kamala is not showing up
at this was it called the the Al Skinnermith Dinner.
Al Skinner, I think was a former basketball coach Al
Smith Dinner in New York, which everybody has done going
all the way back to Mondale. I think, yeah, and
(15:52):
it would be really funny if Biden showed up to
take Kamala's place. But what theory could there be for
why he's suddenly doing all of this media forty days
out ish from the election to distract from her and
also tie them together. It doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I think that if push on it, he would just
his handlers would say he's just he's still the president
and he has a legacy and an agenda to protect
until the very last day. And I think behind closed doors,
they're like, yeah, if Kamala loses, there will be a
blitzkrieg from Democrats who come out to say this was
(16:34):
party elites and it never should have happened and all
the rest of it, and man and Kamala Harris's political
career is finished if she loses this election. I do
believe that I agree with you on that. I think
that she'll get some cushy job. But that's a different
issue than whether they would ever run her again. I
don't even know if Kamala would run. If Kamala loses
this election, is she going to run in twenty eight
(16:56):
I don't I think she oh, I don't think she
would again. Political career is over.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, She's either going to be famous for hundreds of
years as the first woman elected president of the United
States unfortunately, or she will never be heard from again,
Ducaccus style. She will vanish into left wing you know,
the sinecure.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, and I think that the other part of this
is how can Joe Biden? I mean, here is on
the view. This is cut four. This is just a
quick one. They asked him. One of the view hosts
asked him, if you had stayed in, would you have won?
This's what he says. He stayed in the race, will
you have won?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Year, Yes, Well then why'd you get out? Joe? Why'd
you get out? You know, you can't have it both ways.
It can't be you did what's best for the country,
but you thought you were going to win. Who could
convince you if I really thought I was going to
win an election?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Nobody, and I'm the president. Nobody's pushing me out, buck,
That's what he said. Only the Good Lord Almighty could
push him out, and then he ended up leaving. Remember,
I mean, his own record doesn't really tie up with
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Speaker 1 (19:01):
Just a quick recap Kamala Harris tonight seven Eastern the
Ultimate puff Piece interview on the Way with Stephanie Rule
of MSNBC, who is an avowed Kamala partisan and specifically
justifies her dodging the media policy just a few days ago.
So I'm sure she's gonna ask the probig questions. She's
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gonna say, Hey, when you were on that debate stage
and Trump said you won't oppose abortion in the sixth, seventh, eighth,
or ninth month, can you answer that one for us?
Would you would you sign a law that said abortion
is legal in all fifty states, if it's illegal in
the third trimester in all fifty states, would you do that?
She's not gonna ask any questions even in the universe
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of that. It's all gonna be some people have questions
about your awesomeness. And I'm just like, I'm just like
here to get to the bottom, Kamala, of like why
you're so amazing, And I just want to give people
like literally the chance to know why you're so great?
What do you think? I think that actually is probably
how the interview is gonna go. I might even have
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quoted her before she quotes herself Stephanie Rule, having watched
enough MSNBC, I know, I know the cadence, I know
the tone, I know how they roll Clay. It's gonna
be it's gonna be a joke. And then Biden today
is on the view. Would you want to you want
to weigh on the rule?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I was just gonna say to me, if we had
honest journalists, which we do not, at a minimum, wouldn't
you demand that the entire interview be played without edits
if you were Stephanie Rule. Every time that we have
had Donald Trump on this show, every single minute has
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been played live for all of you. And we've interviewed Trump,
like what do you think? Five or six times at
least on this show.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Buck. We have never ever.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Edited anything that Trump said in our interview, and whatever
you think of him, we have brought it directly to you.
I don't think in three and a half years of
interviews that we've ever edited any interview that we've ever done. Occasionally,
very rarely, we will tape an interview because somebody can't
come on live with you. We try to do everything live.
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If MSNBC were just remotely committed to journalistic ethics, they
would just air the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
CNN.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
We don't even know how long the interview was. They
did jump cuts in their interview with Kamala Harris. Did
they let Kamala's team ask that things be left out
of the interview put on the cutting room floor?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
But if I ran MSNBC and I was at least
committed to any form of journalism, I would totally insist
on everything being aired that she answers in response to
our questions, wouldn't you? I mean, for better or worse
for both the host and in the interview. They're not
going to do it, but that seems like the bare
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minimum if you were trying to do in any way
an interview.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We should just reiterate this, say it out loud. The
understood rules of this game for all Democrats is whatever
it takes. You have no ethics, there are no rules.
Whatever it takes for Trump to be defeated, for Kamala
Harris to win is what you're supposed to.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Do, and it's the table steaks for your career.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You deviate from that, you're done. And everybody knows that
right now on the Democrat side. So you're not going
to see anyone suddenly develop a spine or a conscience
or integrity, who's a Democrat. It's just not going to happen.
I think, Clay Uh, this is also a moment of
some panic for the Democrats, and that's why they have
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this pretense that the polls or you know, they're all saying, now, oh,
it's it's neck and neck. Oh there's we're up by six. No,
the numbers look pretty bad for Kamala and Joe Biden.
They have to be aware of this. Here's what Joe
Biden says. We all understand, right. What he's supposed to
say is, you know, I did my best for the country,
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blah blah. But you know, Kamala is the next generation
of leadership and I couldn't argue with the polls and
she's gonna win. What he did say was cut free here,
which was something else?
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Did you feel that your hand was forced?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
And what was your relationship with Speaker Pelissy? Now?
Speaker 7 (23:27):
The relationship is fine.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Look, I I never fully believed the assertions that somehow
there was this overwhelming reluctance of my running again.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
I didn't sense that. And although the pollingship Biden's polling
was different The fact of the matter is my Polly
was about, you know, we're always within range of being
this guy. But what I did was I think there
were It makes sense there are some folks who would
like to see me step aside so they have a
chance to move on. I get that that's just human nature.
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But that wasn't the reason that I stepped down.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So Okay, Clay, what's the reason. Yeah, if you thought
the poles were fine and he thought he could win,
why he stepped down?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
No, and now he's contradicting himself as he goes out
and does all these interviews. Because maybe we could pull
his George Stepanopolis interview where he said he's staying in
and only the Good Lord Almighty could actually force him
to drop out. And that's if he came down from
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the heavens and told him.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's what he said, Buck, and that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
A week after basically the debate, if I remember correctly,
he did that Friday interview. I feel like the debate
was on a Tuesday issue, and then he came in
on Friday and sat down with George Stepanopolis in like
a hastily organized interview to try to put out the
fires that had started on June twenty seventh, and now
he's saying, hey, the Poles would reflect I would win.
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I'm telling you, Buck, if she loses, this is gonna
be so much fun. I get giddy just thinking about it.
They are going to throw Kamala Harris and her team
under the bus, the likes of which you had never
seen before. They're gonna point to the results and say
Biden would have won in twenty four like he did
in twenty but they panicked. They brought out the long knives.
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Nancy Pelosi was wrong, Chuck Schumer was wrong, Kamala Harris
was wrong. The revenge of Joe Biden is going to
be if Kamala loses, that he would have won and
Bucky gets to play it both ways.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Think about this.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
If Kamala wins, then he's George Washington, the elegant statesman
who passed the baton to the next generation. Joe Biden
is creating a scenario. Just think about this where heads
he wins and tails you lose. He's gonna claim victory
no matter what happens on election night. I actually think
the well short of being right right alongside President Trump
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for the for the win, just though in terms of
the high drama to be able to be in this
White House or wherever, at the Beach House, which is
probably where Biden will be on election night, and be
around Joe and his team as these numbers come in
and we really get a sense as to what's going on,
because I don't think they'd be I think that they
would be torn, and I don't think they'd be able
to hide it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
That there would be a lot of them who would
be really happy, especially if you thought you were going
to have a great job under Biden term too. Remember,
it's never just the president everybody. It's the people around
the president. It's his team, it's his handlers, it's his appointees.
It's some of them can stick around, sure, but a
lot of them, even if they keep their role, are
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going to lose their access and lose their influence. And
if you live in DC clan, I have both been
DC creatures at different points in our lives. That's all
anybody in DC who's in the system in the swamp
cares about is their access. So there's a whole chorus
of people around Biden who are pissed off totally.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
There's gonna be a lot of shodenfreud to what you're
saying as those election results come in. In particular, if
what you and I think is going to happen in Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin happens, because I think the Biden people would
acknowledge they were struggling in North Carolina, in Georgia and
in Arizona. I think in Nevada, I think they would say, hey,
that was going to be tough, but I think they
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believe they would have pulled out the bull the blue wall,
that Scranton Joe could have gotten the team together one
more time, and that he could have found a way
to get those older, high school educated Midwestern what I
call the Big ten college football fan base that have Steelers,
the Eagles, those guys, that he could have gotten them
out one more time, and that they would have picked
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him over Trump. And I think what you're seeing, I
really do, is their nervous because those people are not
showing up for Kamala. And we're going to talk with
Ryan Kurdusky. He actually had a really good piece diving
into the math. The only way the math works for Kamala,
think buck is if she were going to turn out
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minority voters at a much higher rate than Biden. I
don't think it's reflecting that she is, and I think
this focus on abortion is the sign of her desperation,
because it's kind of like them giving up on men,
and they're just trying to do whatever they can to
get eighteen to forty year old women who are abortion
is their number one issue. They have been terrified to
(28:26):
believe that if they try to have an abortion, Donald
Trump himself is going to show up on their front
step and drag them out by their hair. I mean,
that's literally what they're trying to sell to the American public,
to these younger, emotional women associated with abortion. The fact
that she went on in Wisconsin yesterday and said, hey,
we need a national we need to end the filibuster
(28:48):
in order to make Roe v. Wade the national law
of the land. They are desperate. And what's interesting, Gerdusky's
got a piece up and I can't wait to talk
to him because you know, I kind of nerd out
on the data, and that's why I'm so excited to
see what the exit polls end up showing. When we
got a real tally as opposed to all these predictions.
He says, Kamala is not doing that much better with
(29:09):
women than Hillary did. If that's true, oh boy, because
Trump is doing a lot better with men than I
think he has at any point in his career. Twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty is actually a really interesting buck front page
article New York Times today saying men are going to
(29:30):
church now, young men, at infinitely higher rates than women,
and they've never seen this happen before. We've got a
major cultural shift going on, and I think Kamala is
in danger of being the victim.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Of it from an electoral perspective. I just I keep
reiterating it. I firmly believe it, and a lot of
them are listening right now. Dudes who swing a hammer,
drive a truck, lift heavy things, put heavy things down
for a living. They're going to make sure that Trump
and not Kamala Harris wins this election. I think that's
what's going to end up happening in those swing states.
(30:06):
They need to show up and vote because they're not
voting for Kamala. If you can get those guys out
to vote, because that's one of the challenges if you
hunt and you live in Pennsylvania, or Michigan or Wisconsin.
Are you going to show up if you work with
your hands, if you're a blue collar, high school educated
guy out there who loves football and definitely thinks that
(30:26):
dude shouldn't be winning women's championships? Can they get those
people mobilized to go vote. If they do, Trump's gonna win.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
And I think Trump's gonna win comfortably in the big
ten states if that happens. But it's got to happen.
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Speaker 1 (33:39):
But I do.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Think this is important. Biden now says, oh, I just
I would have won. There's no rationale that he's able
to provide for why he dropped out. And it's important
to recognize that this was right after the debate, when
all the panic was rolling through the Democrat Party. Biden
set down with George Stefanopf and said, I'm in this race.
(34:02):
Only the Lord Almighty coming down from Heaven could get
me to leave.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Listen if Chuck Schimer and Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi
come down and say we're worried that if you stay
in the race, we're going to lose the House in
the Senate, how will you respond.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I've go into detail with them.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I've speaken all of them in detail, including Jim Kleimber,
every one of them. They all said I should stay
in the race. Stay in the race. No one said,
none of the people said I should leave it.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
But if they do, well, we're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You sure, yeah, sure, Look I mean if the Lord
of Mighty cannot said, Joe, get out of the race,
I got out the race and Lord of Mighty's not
coming down.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Okay, I don't know the Lord. That's a good question
for the ladies on the view. So you said only
the Lord Almighty could get you to leave. Did God
come down and talk to you, Joe, because otherwise your
logic doesn't add up. Now they would never ask that question,
But I do think it's important to remem remember what
Biden was saying just a few weeks before he actually
dropped out.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And if it required God Almighty, who was playing the
role of the Almighty when when it came there will
be eventually, You're right, I totally agree. There's this two
tracks that Biden has laid where on the one hand,
he's George Washington selfless step down. On the other hand,
Kamala loses, let's say, and then it's you guys, never
should have abandoned me, et cetera. That will also affect
(35:28):
though the behind the true, behind the scenes story of
how they got Biden out when it comes out, he
is going to be fascinated totally because somebody, somebody actually
was able to give him the push down the stairs,
so to speak, so to speak, somebody was able to
shove him out the door.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
It will be somebody's going to get one of the
greatest political books of all time. Remember when they did
Game Change, which was great about the two thousand and
eight presidential election. I loved that book. It was all
behind the scenes actions. We've never seen anything like what's
going on here. And again, you need to get out
and vote early. You need to get out and get
your ballot banked. Buck and I both feel really good
(36:11):
about Trump, but it comes down to the voters in
all the different states out there in communities, getting out
and getting your vote, casting your vote, having your voice heard.
But this is going to be an amazing I bet
it ends up on HBO. Buck, I bet it ends
up one of the highest rated HBO mini series ever,
which will be a dramatic retelling of whatever person gets
this book. I bet they're already writing it, and I
(36:32):
bet it comes out January February of twenty five. The
true behind the scenes story of what went down throughout
this entire race. They're just waiting to see what the
capstone is. Is Biden George Washington or is he a
vengeful attacker of all things commill get your popcorn.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I think it's going to be the latter.
Welcome and everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Klay
Travis en Buck Sexton Show. Oh my, forty days and
forty nine got not a lot of time here before
the election. I had to check my math on that one.
I'm like, if it's forty days, it's also forty ninths.
Not a lot of time before this election, Clay, it
(00:21):
is coming upon us so quickly. What do we have
in the docket in the hopper for you today? We've
got the latest Kamala Harris interview scheduled tonight with Stephanie
Rule of MSNBC. We will explain why this is truly hilarious.
(00:42):
It's even it's even funnier that I bet most of
you realize. And we're going to tell you those details.
The Kamala hide the candidate campaign is continuing to just
cover itself in glory. We'll talk about that. We've also
got Joe Biden today on the view, and you know,
(01:04):
he's rubbing it in a little bit. You know, I
just we just had we just had stategate. I just
had to put the credit card down and take care
of business here in Miami. And now Biden's telling everybody
he would have won, Clay, you see this w won
or rather would still win whatever, right, I mean, he
would win this upcoming election if he were still in it.
We shall discuss that the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence,
(01:27):
which is an entirely unnecessary position created in the massive
bloat after nine to eleven, but put that aside. Director
of National Intelligence has a lord of the Trump campaign
of specific and operational threats from Iran to assassinate him.
We also have updates from Butler Pennsylvania. What happened? What
(01:49):
went so wrong there? The absolute disaster from a secret
service perspective of Butler Pennsylvania. We have more for you
on that. We'll also get into the latest polling Clay,
for example, Morning Joe saying that Kamala was up six
percent nationally. Why even say a poll like that out loud?
(02:09):
People like me and you are just going to make
fun of them for it, But they did. We'll get
to that. I want to start with this Stephanie Rule
stuff today in case you missed it, This isn't in
case you missed it situation, Clay, you saw this, We've
texted about this. Stephanie Rule was on the Bill Mahers show. Okay,
she was on the Bill Mahers Show, and she was
(02:34):
making the case. She made the case. I should say
she made the case for a why it's totally fine
that Kamala is not appearing in interviews anywhere. This is
what some of what she said to The New York
Times Brett Stevens, play one, are you going to vote
for Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm not not running for perfect She's running against Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
We had two choices, and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So there are some things you might not know her
answer to.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And in twenty twenty four, unlike twenty sixteen, for a
lot of the American people.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
We know exactly what Trump will do, who he is,
and the kind of threat he is to democracy. I
don't think it's a lot to ask her to sit
down for a real interview. As a personal of her
piece in which she describes as her her feelings of
growing up and opening a nice lot. Then I would
just say to that, when you moved to Nirvana, give
(03:26):
me your real estate broker's number and I'll be your
nextal name.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
We don't live there, Clay. This is perfect right. She's
straight up saying, look, buddy, whatever it takes for Kamala,
we don't live in Nirvana if she has to play
this game and not do any interviews. I stand behind that,
and she is the Kamala campaign choice for the next
interview right after this.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So I'm torn on this in a couple of different directions. One,
I wonder if she sold herself out on Bill Maher
because the Mamala team had already agreed to do an
interview with her and she didn't want to lose the interview.
So I'm curious which of these perspectives you would take.
Or Kamala's team saw her on Friday, just Genue flecked
(04:15):
at the altar of Kamala's amazingness and said, that's who
we have to talk to at MSNBC. Do you think
she had the interview and she was trying to protect
it or she got it based on what she said
on mar I am all it's a fair question, a
fair binary.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I am all in on option number two. Clay. I
do not believe for a second that they would have
scheduled a Stephanie Rule interview and it wouldn't have leaked,
and then it just so happened she was on Bill Maher.
I think that they realize that they need to do
something because even Brett Stevens, who hate Clay Brett Stevens,
despises Trump, and he's like, look, I hate Trump, but
(04:55):
Kamala has to actually show up and ask and answer questions.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Here is something that I think is interesting about this
interview tonight is Kamala has been so disrespectful of left
wing traditional media. She won't talk to him, She won't
answer any of their questions. That she's actually putting these
hagiographic media figures in a tough spot. Because if Stephanie
(05:19):
Rule does an interview and doesn't ask any questions buck,
there are twenty things that you could ask Kamala Harris
that she hasn't answered that actually are very substantive, newsworthy questions.
There's not very much you could ask Trump in comparison,
because he's basically told you what he thinks on everything.
Doesn't mean I mean we're gonna have Trump on again
(05:41):
on this show. We've been talking with his team sometime
in October. There are a lot of questions we will
ask him, but there aren't the glaring, wide open questions
that Kamala still has, like why did you say that
building a border wall was racist? And now you want
to build a border wall. Why did you bail out
BLM protesters and now you say we need to avoid
(06:06):
defunding the police, right, I mean, why did you say
you opposed paper straws, Now you're for them. Why were
you for the death penalty? Now you can't are against
the death penalty? Now you can't tell us. Kamala has
tried to take every perspective on every issue, which means
there are tons of ripe questions which she could be asked.
Yet Stephanie Rule has basically already labeled herself as propaganda media,
(06:28):
which puts her in a really tough spot.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Like Kamala's disrespect of media has actually painted her biggest
cheerleaders into a corner, because what they should do is
ask questions of someone who wants the most powerful job
in America. Instead, what they're gonna do is burnish her
sene and that looks too much even for regular people
like propaganda.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Look, it would be preposterous if President Trump hadn't done
any interview. I mean, I know this is alternate universe stuff, right,
we all understand President Trump is a medium where we are. Yeah,
it would be preposterous if President Trump first of all,
had just become the candidate. Suddenly I have never got
never got a vote, you know, never got to vote,
(07:13):
became the candidate in the middle of the summer, right
before the r NC, didn't do really any I think
he's on what would have been too that Kamma has
done so far right, And then in response to pressure
would say, all right, fine, I'm going to do a
hard hitting interview with Clay and Buck. Now I'll just
use us as an example. Yeah, we asked the president,
(07:34):
We asked President Trump real questions. But we are both
on record vociferously as Trump voters wanting Trump to win
and advocating for him publicly to win, which I believe
is just the entirely honest position that really everyone of
media should have. Who are you pushing for? Don't play
the game, Clay, she is a Comma up partisan. Yeah,
(07:58):
And in response to she won't do you any interviews
that probe who she is. She's sitting down with an
avowed Kamala partisan.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's absurd and it's embarrassing not only for the Kamala
Harris campaign, but I think it really puts this journalist
or opinionist on the spot because again she should there.
I'm not even kidding. There are twenty questions that at
least are outstanding about where Kamala comes down on a
variety of different perspectives out there that she legitimately hasn't answered.
(08:30):
And this journalist in quotation Marks brags about how you
shouldn't hold Kamala accountable and it doesn't matter what she
says because she's not Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And then she gets the interview and.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Buck All Stephanie Ruhle did on Bill Maher's show would
say what the majority of Kamala Harris's voters actually believe.
They're not voting for Kamala Harris, just like they didn't
vote for Joe Biden. They're voting against Trump. Seventy five
to eighty percent at least of Kamala's voters and Joe
Biden's voters are not supporters of theirs. It's why you
(09:05):
don't see anybody with a Kamala hat, why you don't
see anybody with a Biden hat. It's all anti Trump
dogma that they have bought into.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And I think Clay this has summed up very well.
You know, there are some Democrat phrases, quotes that have
always stayed with me, especially since I've been working in
this world of politics and commentary. There's Obama's elections have consequences, which,
say what you will, that was a warning of what
was to come. Right, It's true elections do have consequences.
(09:34):
But there was also Harry Reid. As you and I
have talked about this one, Harry Reid just made up
a completely absurd line. I mean, Mitt Romney is a
boy scout. I mean Mitt Romney is not a guy
who is cheating on his taxes and breaking any laws.
And yet Harry Reid said that Mitt Romney hadn't paid
(09:55):
taxes in ten years, which is completely I mean that
would he'd be going to prison for your And then
when Mitt Romney lost, what did Harry Reid say? He
didn't win? Did he? The point is he knew he
was lying and it worked. And the point is with
Kamala and her entire campaign, they know what they are
doing and they don't care. They know it's a fraud.
Clay to your point about who they're voting for and
(10:17):
how they're viewing it. Whatever with their attitude is whatever
it takes, whatever it takes.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I will say, the suddenness with which she is doing
interviews and now demanding the second debate pay attention to
what they do, not what they say. Her polling has
her losing, Buck and her polling has her losing. And
the difficult spot they're in is the record reflects that
(10:46):
the more people see Kamala, the less they like her.
And they were able to hide her from July twenty first,
basically all the way through the first presidential debate other
than that strange sit down Lifeguard inner with Dana Bash
and CNN that Kamala Harris did, but by and large,
she's otherwise done a lot of local news interviews that
(11:08):
don't push her very much. She's sitting down with a
propagandist here and I don't know if you find this
as interesting as I do.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Buck.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
But suddenly Joe Biden is back on the media circuit.
They hid Biden for several months, but now he went
on We're going to play some audio for you.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He went on the View today.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
He's been holding He had a cabinet meeting for the
first time in eleven months. That feels to me, and
I haven't seen it written yet, but it feels to
me like a little bit of a shot across the
bow at Kamala Harris by Biden because it ties them together.
He went on the View today and said, I love
Kamala because she stands for everything that I believe in.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
She's just an extension of.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Me, which is the talking point the Trump team would
love for him to have.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We have to get more into this interview on the
View with Biden, because first of all, it's he's trying
to he knows what he's supposed to say, and he
doesn't want to say it. Okay, that's the truth. He's
supposed to say. I stepped aside because I knew Kamala
could win and the polls were against me, and this
was the right. He can't really say it, though, So
(12:13):
he does this. Oh, we'll get to it. He wants
to leave open the door, Clay to if you idiots
had just left me in, I would win, and Kamala
is a joke. She's gonna lose. He's leaving. Don't you
see it that way? I mean, when you see the
way he's hedging. Yeah, he's leaving open the door. And
I'm telling you some of you were still You're like,
(12:34):
what happened? How did Buck Island go underwater Democrats with
a massive own goal here, Biden would be he would
have rebounded, and he would be I'm actually like Team
Biden on this one. He would have rebounded it had
been in better shape than Kamala's in. Right now, I
truly believe that we will.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Not get an official verdict until all of the exit
polls come out. We see how everything goes in the States,
But my goodness, the recriminations. If Trump wins and Kamala
underperforms all of Biden's numbers in twenty twenty, which I
think she is now, she might still be able to
win by four thousand votes or something somewhere. It could
be super tight. But I think she's going to underperform
(13:13):
Biden in every battleground state. And if that's right, oh boy,
you are going to see some amazing Monday morning quarterbacking
as soon as this data starts coming out, and Buck,
I think you're starting to see it now. And again,
I would just ask you, why did Biden suddenly have
his first cabinet meeting in eleven months on Friday? Why
is he on the View Live today? Why did he
(13:34):
travel to the UN and give a speech this week?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know what? I'll tell you. I have a theory
about this. I want to get into you. I'll tell
you why Biden's doing this now and how he's positioning it.
In a minute, Well, let me give you the ultimate fu.
By the way, what if he showed up at that
Al Smith dinner that Kamala wouldn't go to. I mean,
let's hold this. Let's hold this because you're thinking along
the same lines I'm thinking. Look.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay Buck,
as we went to break, and we're going to dive
into this because I do find the not only politics
of this to be fascinating and very favorable for Trump,
that Joe Biden has suddenly emerged back on the national circuit.
It also ties in Buck with I think Biden hates Kamala.
(15:31):
I mean, I think he's really kind of giving her
the middle finger. And I asked the question as we
went to break, you know Kamala is not showing up
at this was it called the the Al Skinnermith Dinner.
Al Skinner, I think was a former basketball coach Al
Smith Dinner in New York, which everybody has done going
all the way back to Mondale. I think, yeah, and
(15:52):
it would be really funny if Biden showed up to
take Kamala's place. But what theory could there be for
why he's suddenly doing all of this media forty days
out ish from the election to distract from her and
also tie them together. It doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I think that if push on it, he would just
his handlers would say he's just he's still the president
and he has a legacy and an agenda to protect
until the very last day. And I think behind closed doors,
they're like, yeah, if Kamala loses, there will be a
blitzkrieg from Democrats who come out to say this was
(16:34):
party elites and it never should have happened and all
the rest of it, and man and Kamala Harris's political
career is finished if she loses this election. I do
believe that I agree with you on that. I think
that she'll get some cushy job. But that's a different
issue than whether they would ever run her again. I
don't even know if Kamala would run. If Kamala loses
this election, is she going to run in twenty eight
(16:56):
I don't I think she oh, I don't think she
would again. Political career is over.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, She's either going to be famous for hundreds of
years as the first woman elected president of the United
States unfortunately, or she will never be heard from again,
Ducaccus style. She will vanish into left wing you know,
the sinecure.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, and I think that the other part of this
is how can Joe Biden? I mean, here is on
the view. This is cut four. This is just a
quick one. They asked him. One of the view hosts
asked him, if you had stayed in, would you have won?
This's what he says. He stayed in the race, will
you have won?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Year, Yes, Well then why'd you get out? Joe? Why'd
you get out? You know, you can't have it both ways.
It can't be you did what's best for the country,
but you thought you were going to win. Who could
convince you if I really thought I was going to
win an election?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Nobody, and I'm the president. Nobody's pushing me out, buck,
That's what he said. Only the Good Lord Almighty could
push him out, and then he ended up leaving. Remember,
I mean, his own record doesn't really tie up with
his answers. Who knew Nancy Pelosi was the almighty. Some
people think that our economy is thriving, but there are
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Speaker 1 (19:01):
Just a quick recap Kamala Harris tonight seven Eastern the
Ultimate puff Piece interview on the Way with Stephanie Rule
of MSNBC, who is an avowed Kamala partisan and specifically
justifies her dodging the media policy just a few days ago.
So I'm sure she's gonna ask the probig questions. She's
(19:24):
gonna say, Hey, when you were on that debate stage
and Trump said you won't oppose abortion in the sixth, seventh, eighth,
or ninth month, can you answer that one for us?
Would you would you sign a law that said abortion
is legal in all fifty states, if it's illegal in
the third trimester in all fifty states, would you do that?
She's not gonna ask any questions even in the universe
(19:46):
of that. It's all gonna be some people have questions
about your awesomeness. And I'm just like, I'm just like
here to get to the bottom, Kamala, of like why
you're so amazing, And I just want to give people
like literally the chance to know why you're so great?
What do you think? I think that actually is probably
how the interview is gonna go. I might even have
(20:06):
quoted her before she quotes herself Stephanie Rule, having watched
enough MSNBC, I know, I know the cadence, I know
the tone, I know how they roll Clay. It's gonna
be it's gonna be a joke. And then Biden today
is on the view. Would you want to you want
to weigh on the rule?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I was just gonna say to me, if we had
honest journalists, which we do not, at a minimum, wouldn't
you demand that the entire interview be played without edits
if you were Stephanie Rule. Every time that we have
had Donald Trump on this show, every single minute has
(20:43):
been played live for all of you. And we've interviewed Trump,
like what do you think? Five or six times at
least on this show.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Buck. We have never ever.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Edited anything that Trump said in our interview, and whatever
you think of him, we have brought it directly to you.
I don't think in three and a half years of
interviews that we've ever edited any interview that we've ever done. Occasionally,
very rarely, we will tape an interview because somebody can't
come on live with you. We try to do everything live.
(21:15):
If MSNBC were just remotely committed to journalistic ethics, they
would just air the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
CNN.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
We don't even know how long the interview was. They
did jump cuts in their interview with Kamala Harris. Did
they let Kamala's team ask that things be left out
of the interview put on the cutting room floor?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
But if I ran MSNBC and I was at least
committed to any form of journalism, I would totally insist
on everything being aired that she answers in response to
our questions, wouldn't you? I mean, for better or worse
for both the host and in the interview. They're not
going to do it, but that seems like the bare
(21:57):
minimum if you were trying to do in any way
an interview.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We should just reiterate this, say it out loud. The
understood rules of this game for all Democrats is whatever
it takes. You have no ethics, there are no rules.
Whatever it takes for Trump to be defeated, for Kamala
Harris to win is what you're supposed to.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Do, and it's the table steaks for your career.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You deviate from that, you're done. And everybody knows that
right now on the Democrat side. So you're not going
to see anyone suddenly develop a spine or a conscience
or integrity, who's a Democrat. It's just not going to happen.
I think, Clay Uh, this is also a moment of
some panic for the Democrats, and that's why they have
(22:48):
this pretense that the polls or you know, they're all saying, now, oh,
it's it's neck and neck. Oh there's we're up by six. No,
the numbers look pretty bad for Kamala and Joe Biden.
They have to be aware of this. Here's what Joe
Biden says. We all understand, right. What he's supposed to
say is, you know, I did my best for the country,
(23:09):
blah blah. But you know, Kamala is the next generation
of leadership and I couldn't argue with the polls and
she's gonna win. What he did say was cut free here,
which was something else?
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Did you feel that your hand was forced?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
And what was your relationship with Speaker Pelissy? Now?
Speaker 7 (23:27):
The relationship is fine.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Look, I I never fully believed the assertions that somehow
there was this overwhelming reluctance of my running again.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
I didn't sense that. And although the pollingship Biden's polling
was different The fact of the matter is my Polly
was about, you know, we're always within range of being
this guy. But what I did was I think there
were It makes sense there are some folks who would
like to see me step aside so they have a
chance to move on. I get that that's just human nature.
(24:02):
But that wasn't the reason that I stepped down.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So Okay, Clay, what's the reason. Yeah, if you thought
the poles were fine and he thought he could win,
why he stepped down?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
No, and now he's contradicting himself as he goes out
and does all these interviews. Because maybe we could pull
his George Stepanopolis interview where he said he's staying in
and only the Good Lord Almighty could actually force him
to drop out. And that's if he came down from
(24:33):
the heavens and told him.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's what he said, Buck, and that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
A week after basically the debate, if I remember correctly,
he did that Friday interview. I feel like the debate
was on a Tuesday issue, and then he came in
on Friday and sat down with George Stepanopolis in like
a hastily organized interview to try to put out the
fires that had started on June twenty seventh, and now
he's saying, hey, the Poles would reflect I would win.
(25:00):
I'm telling you, Buck, if she loses, this is gonna
be so much fun. I get giddy just thinking about it.
They are going to throw Kamala Harris and her team
under the bus, the likes of which you had never
seen before. They're gonna point to the results and say
Biden would have won in twenty four like he did
in twenty but they panicked. They brought out the long knives.
(25:23):
Nancy Pelosi was wrong, Chuck Schumer was wrong, Kamala Harris
was wrong. The revenge of Joe Biden is going to
be if Kamala loses, that he would have won and
Bucky gets to play it both ways.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Think about this.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
If Kamala wins, then he's George Washington, the elegant statesman
who passed the baton to the next generation. Joe Biden
is creating a scenario. Just think about this where heads
he wins and tails you lose. He's gonna claim victory
no matter what happens on election night. I actually think
the well short of being right right alongside President Trump
(26:00):
for the for the win, just though in terms of
the high drama to be able to be in this
White House or wherever, at the Beach House, which is
probably where Biden will be on election night, and be
around Joe and his team as these numbers come in
and we really get a sense as to what's going on,
because I don't think they'd be I think that they
would be torn, and I don't think they'd be able
to hide it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
That there would be a lot of them who would
be really happy, especially if you thought you were going
to have a great job under Biden term too. Remember,
it's never just the president everybody. It's the people around
the president. It's his team, it's his handlers, it's his appointees.
It's some of them can stick around, sure, but a
lot of them, even if they keep their role, are
(26:40):
going to lose their access and lose their influence. And
if you live in DC clan, I have both been
DC creatures at different points in our lives. That's all
anybody in DC who's in the system in the swamp
cares about is their access. So there's a whole chorus
of people around Biden who are pissed off totally.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
There's gonna be a lot of shodenfreud to what you're
saying as those election results come in. In particular, if
what you and I think is going to happen in Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin happens, because I think the Biden people would
acknowledge they were struggling in North Carolina, in Georgia and
in Arizona. I think in Nevada, I think they would say, hey,
that was going to be tough, but I think they
(27:21):
believe they would have pulled out the bull the blue wall,
that Scranton Joe could have gotten the team together one
more time, and that he could have found a way
to get those older, high school educated Midwestern what I
call the Big ten college football fan base that have Steelers,
the Eagles, those guys, that he could have gotten them
out one more time, and that they would have picked
(27:43):
him over Trump. And I think what you're seeing, I
really do, is their nervous because those people are not
showing up for Kamala. And we're going to talk with
Ryan Kurdusky. He actually had a really good piece diving
into the math. The only way the math works for Kamala,
think buck is if she were going to turn out
(28:03):
minority voters at a much higher rate than Biden. I
don't think it's reflecting that she is, and I think
this focus on abortion is the sign of her desperation,
because it's kind of like them giving up on men,
and they're just trying to do whatever they can to
get eighteen to forty year old women who are abortion
is their number one issue. They have been terrified to
(28:26):
believe that if they try to have an abortion, Donald
Trump himself is going to show up on their front
step and drag them out by their hair. I mean,
that's literally what they're trying to sell to the American public,
to these younger, emotional women associated with abortion. The fact
that she went on in Wisconsin yesterday and said, hey,
we need a national we need to end the filibuster
(28:48):
in order to make Roe v. Wade the national law
of the land. They are desperate. And what's interesting, Gerdusky's
got a piece up and I can't wait to talk
to him because you know, I kind of nerd out
on the data, and that's why I'm so excited to
see what the exit polls end up showing. When we
got a real tally as opposed to all these predictions.
He says, Kamala is not doing that much better with
(29:09):
women than Hillary did. If that's true, oh boy, because
Trump is doing a lot better with men than I
think he has at any point in his career. Twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty is actually a really interesting buck front page
article New York Times today saying men are going to
(29:30):
church now, young men, at infinitely higher rates than women,
and they've never seen this happen before. We've got a
major cultural shift going on, and I think Kamala is
in danger of being the victim.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Of it from an electoral perspective. I just I keep
reiterating it. I firmly believe it, and a lot of
them are listening right now. Dudes who swing a hammer,
drive a truck, lift heavy things, put heavy things down
for a living. They're going to make sure that Trump
and not Kamala Harris wins this election. I think that's
what's going to end up happening in those swing states.
(30:06):
They need to show up and vote because they're not
voting for Kamala. If you can get those guys out
to vote, because that's one of the challenges if you
hunt and you live in Pennsylvania, or Michigan or Wisconsin.
Are you going to show up if you work with
your hands, if you're a blue collar, high school educated
guy out there who loves football and definitely thinks that
(30:26):
dude shouldn't be winning women's championships? Can they get those
people mobilized to go vote. If they do, Trump's gonna win.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
And I think Trump's gonna win comfortably in the big
ten states if that happens. But it's got to happen.
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Speaker 1 (33:39):
But I do.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Think this is important. Biden now says, oh, I just
I would have won. There's no rationale that he's able
to provide for why he dropped out. And it's important
to recognize that this was right after the debate, when
all the panic was rolling through the Democrat Party. Biden
set down with George Stefanopf and said, I'm in this race.
(34:02):
Only the Lord Almighty coming down from Heaven could get
me to leave.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Listen if Chuck Schimer and Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi
come down and say we're worried that if you stay
in the race, we're going to lose the House in
the Senate, how will you respond.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I've go into detail with them.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I've speaken all of them in detail, including Jim Kleimber,
every one of them. They all said I should stay
in the race. Stay in the race. No one said,
none of the people said I should leave it.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
But if they do, well, we're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You sure, yeah, sure, Look I mean if the Lord
of Mighty cannot said, Joe, get out of the race,
I got out the race and Lord of Mighty's not
coming down.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Okay, I don't know the Lord. That's a good question
for the ladies on the view. So you said only
the Lord Almighty could get you to leave. Did God
come down and talk to you, Joe, because otherwise your
logic doesn't add up. Now they would never ask that question,
But I do think it's important to remem remember what
Biden was saying just a few weeks before he actually
dropped out.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And if it required God Almighty, who was playing the
role of the Almighty when when it came there will
be eventually, You're right, I totally agree. There's this two
tracks that Biden has laid where on the one hand,
he's George Washington selfless step down. On the other hand,
Kamala loses, let's say, and then it's you guys, never
should have abandoned me, et cetera. That will also affect
(35:28):
though the behind the true, behind the scenes story of
how they got Biden out when it comes out, he
is going to be fascinated totally because somebody, somebody actually
was able to give him the push down the stairs,
so to speak, so to speak, somebody was able to
shove him out the door.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
It will be somebody's going to get one of the
greatest political books of all time. Remember when they did
Game Change, which was great about the two thousand and
eight presidential election. I loved that book. It was all
behind the scenes actions. We've never seen anything like what's
going on here. And again, you need to get out
and vote early. You need to get out and get
your ballot banked. Buck and I both feel really good
(36:11):
about Trump, but it comes down to the voters in
all the different states out there in communities, getting out
and getting your vote, casting your vote, having your voice heard.
But this is going to be an amazing I bet
it ends up on HBO. Buck, I bet it ends
up one of the highest rated HBO mini series ever,
which will be a dramatic retelling of whatever person gets
this book. I bet they're already writing it, and I
(36:32):
bet it comes out January February of twenty five. The
true behind the scenes story of what went down throughout
this entire race. They're just waiting to see what the
capstone is. Is Biden George Washington or is he a
vengeful attacker of all things commill get your popcorn.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I think it's going to be the latter.
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