April 24, 2021 • 40 mins
This is Prime Cuts! (4/19 - 4/23) The best moments from The Colin Cowherd Podcast. First, Colin rants about his disdain for the European Super League owners' lack of cojones (1:00). Plus he shows his love for Jake Paul, Evel Knievel, and all things interesting (3:20). Then we have some great interviews... Colin gets Dana White to give his take on Jake Paul, and Dana also tells us why he thinks the media is "full of $%&*" (5:30). Mark Sanchez lets us know the advice he would give to future Jets QB Zach Wilson, and he names the best play-caller he ever had. (13:30). NFL Insider Mike Silver comes on with an amazing rant about the hypocrisy of Tom Brady (27:00). Plus, Chad Millman of The Action Network calls one of Colin's NFL Over/Under picks a "terrible take" and sets him straight! (33:15).
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. Welcome to Prime Cuts, the best of the
Colin Coward Podcast. Great Week. Dana White was on the show,
talked about Jake Paul, his take on the state of boxing,
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his contentious relationship with the media, and the next big
star in the UFC. Mark Sanchez comes on, gives advice
to Zach Wilson on what it takes to be in
New York Jets quarterbacks. Some great stories, Mike Silver NFL
Insider latest on the draft, dude is totally well connected,
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and Chad Millman betting insights the easiest over and under
bets in the NFL this year. But first, my top
takes of the week. Everybody wants to create a stir.
Everybody wants to be bull old, daring trailblazing. But being
a trailblazer isn't just blazing the trail. It's actually having
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the balls to set the fire, let it burn, and
then walk down the trail you just blazed. The other day,
the heads of all the big European soccer teams blazed
a pretty impressive trail. Then that blaze became a bonfire,
and twenty four hours later they pulled the fire alarm,
broke the glass and ran for the nearest fire escape
in case you need to catch up on this story.
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The other day, like literally the other day, all the
top European soccer clubs like Arsenal, Real, Madrid, Chelsea basically
told the top soccer leagues to go you way for
themselves because they were going off to start their own
super league. Then came the obvious blowback, tons of protests
from angry European soccer fans. Well i'll just say soccer fans,
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since soccer fans in Europe are usually angry anyway, the
fans protested and suddenly the teams got scared. The chairman
of man You resigned, the president of Juventus resigned, and
now the super League is neither super or a league. Figures,
everybody wants to be bold, few have the cajones to
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deal with the blowback. A few years ago, ESPN signed
the edgy bar Stool Sports and put them on the air.
One episode later, they pulled the stool right out from
under them. Recently, Spotify signed the edgy podcaster Joe Rogan,
then oh so quietly removed more than forty of his
episodes that were just two edgy. Those Vanilla executives love
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blazing the trail right up until they get burned. That's
not being bold. In fact, it's the opposite. Listen, I've
had blowback. It's part of my career. But when I
go to a therapist, I don't talk about the audience
that hates me. It's mostly about my weird childhood. And frankly,
half of my audience hates me. Some days I hate
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half my audience. I think it's beautiful. We can at
least share that common ground these days. If you can't
stand the heat, not only get out of the kitchen,
still eat your Twitter. So all those bold and daring,
trailblazing leaders of the European soccer world, I commend you
for that solid twenty seven hours of boldness. You showed.
Well done. Next time, who knows, maybe it can last
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a whole week. Saturday night, I watched Jake Paul beat
Ben Askron. Ben Askin was a like an MMA guy.
One punch fight, Jake Paul's like a YouTuber knocked him out,
and you know, I think it's really interesting. Two things
jump to me. First of all, it's hard to be
good at two things. It's impossible to be great at
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two things. When MMA guys try to box, they look awful.
When boxers going to the octagon, they look awful. Michael
Jordan couldn't hit a baseball curve and Randy Moss couldn't hoop.
The reality is Dion Sanders is a once in a
lifetime athlete that could do both. But you know, it's
funny about boxing and UFE. And I've heard this, it's stick.
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How can you watch Jake Paul, Let me ask you.
Was it interesting? Was it interesting? Yeah? It got one
point five million pay per views. I'm a fan of interesting.
When I was a kid growing up, there was an
industry in America that was fairly dynamic. It was Daredevil's
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Evil Knevil. So I got a job in Las Vegas
and I watched a couple of Daredevils perform live. To
this day, it's the first or second most captivating stuff
I've ever seen live. Daredevils are fascinating. YouTube stars, boxing, MMA,
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guys is interesting. Not everything has to be Game seven
of the World Series, and not everything has to be
Saturday Night sec football. I always look at I always
look at it this way. We have a million regular
season baseball games. Look at all the sports we have
in Erica today, maybe five percent of sports is championship
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level stuff the rest of its regular season out of conference,
not urgent. I will take championship level, legitimate sports first.
But if you give me Jake Paul and Ben Askron
over the Milwaukee Brewers and the Atlanta Braves on a Tuesday,
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I'm gonna take Jake Paul. All right. I've known Dana
White for a long time. Don't really need to introduce him,
but I've been saying the last week anybody in life
that does something first gets the most blowback. And I
thought the commissioner that did the best job in the
country was not Adam Silver Roger Goodell, it was Dana White.
Because it's really easy to follow somebody else who takes
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the headwind, and it was easier for everybody else. And Dana,
who started this business with about two million bucks in
two thousand and one, sold it for over four billion.
And you think bitcoin is making people money, Dana did
very well for himself. It is interesting, Dana, because listen, um,
you got corporations. I mean, you're not just a maverick
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doing it yourself. You got your big beer sponsors, and
so when you went for it and Fight Island did.
Was there any part of you that thought, shit, I'm
gonna get some corporate blowback here from some of my sponsors. Yeah,
first of all, thank you. At second of all, yes,
we definitely thought we would. But our sponsors were pretty cool.
Actually they let me, let me put it to you
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this way. So when we went, our sponsors stood by us,
and it stuck with us, and we're very cool. Then
sponsorship went through the roof. Once we pulled it off safely,
we killed it. We killed it in twenty twenty was
sponsorship and it led over into twenty twenty one and
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we have the all time record for the company for
global sponsorship. So I took my wife's not a sports fan,
but I took her to Mayweather and McGregor and it
was the most fun. It was better than any concert
we've gone to. And it's interesting, Dana this and I'm
and listen, I'm I'm kind of a traditionalist. But I
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grew up with their devils. I grew up, you know,
I grew up with that shit evil Knevil. And I
remember when Ali fought a Japanese wrestler and I watched
Jake Paul this weekend and I know it's sticky, but
I'm sitting to myself thinking, if it's interesting, you have
to have these conversations McGregor and Mayweather was fascinating And
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I'm thinking to myself, you know, we can all make
fun of Jake Paul, but shit, he's three and oh
he's totally into it. I mean, he's not going to
be a heavyweight champ, but there's something there. I mean,
how do you view a celebrity boxer who is authentic
and is into it and he cares. How do you
view it? Let me tell you what boxing has just
continues to decline like this and this, this whole Jake
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Paul thing is the right guy at the right time.
And you know, this kid's doing what he needs to
do and he's gonna get paid. He's getting paid. Um,
you know, he keeps, you know, doing what he's doing.
He's got these these kids, you know believing, you know,
they're believing that this guy is the guy. And part
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of being a showman and and making money and doing
these things and being an entertainer is all part of
what this kid is doing. And he's doing it. Dana.
The great thing about being an international sport is the
quality of your sport is just deep. There's just more
good fighters now, there is that balance. Part of the
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NFL's success is it's a strictly domestic product. Hockey's international.
Basketball is increasingly international. You currently have a lot of
international champions, not as many domestic. This is a two
part question. Number one, why do certain cultures Russia, why
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do they produce so many good fighters? And are you
ever concerned that you don't have enough you know, domestic champs. Yeah,
it's it's it's funny because as the sport was growing,
there were obviously a lot of American champions, a lot
of Brazilian champions, and as it's grown internationally, you know,
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it's part of what's what's helped this thing grow. When
you get somebody, for instance, like Connor McGregor, when you
get a guy looks like you, talks like you, it
comes from where you come from, and he's seen as
the baddest motherfucker in the world. Everybody in that country
gets behind him, you know. So he really helped Europe explode.
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We got three Africans right now, right it's exploding in Africa.
We're working on doing an event, we're probably gonna do
an event in twenty twenty two in Africa, which has
always been a dream of mine. So that's huge. And
one of the things about fighting that's fascinating is as
Americans like if an Italian, we got a kid named
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a Tory who's Italian. If he wins and becomes a
world champion, like he's in the top five right now,
if he becomes a world champion, believe in Italy's gonna
blow up. Everybody in Italy will be talking about UFC
and watch the UFC. But in America, we don't care
as much where these guys are from. We just care
who's the best, and we just want to see the
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best compete. The guy could be British, the guy could
be American, the guy could be Polish, Italian, Puerto Rican.
We don't care. We just want to see the best
fight the best. You've been combative with the media, but
I always wonder do you really need at this point, Dana,
Do you need the media? That's a great question. And
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I'm very combative with the media because they're full of shit,
and every time I read something, and you know, it
makes me crazy, So I don't read anything afore I
try to stay away from it. But yeah, I wouldn't
say that we don't need the media. I think that
there are a lot of people out there that have,
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you know, a fan base on a following and have
their own opinions or perspectives on things that that people
want to want to see in here. So yeah, yeah,
I think we do need the media. I think the
problem is today, here's the problem with today determining who's
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media and who's not. Anybody who can create a fucking
website now considers themselves media, you know what I mean?
Or if they have an Instagram, you know, now I
can become media. It's just most of these people are
full of shit and have no place writing or talking
about anything. But there are some real good media people
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Mark Sanchez for a while. He was a number one
high school football quarterback in the country, and I'm a
recruiting dorc And then he went to USC and he
was all Pack twelve, and then he left early, went
to the Jets, and I was in Connecticut. Now he's
a really really talented broadcaster and a good all around dude.
There's five first round quarterbacks. I said, I think two
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will succeed because that's the precedent, the historical precedent, I said,
Trevor Lawrence, and whoever lands with the forty nine ers,
I'm like, because you know how mean. It's like Lamar
Jackson works with hardball, but if you don't have it,
maybe he doesn't. Josh Allen's great because you have Brian
day ball and a good GM and so. And I
bring it out with you because I really do think
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unless you're a once in a decade elway luck, it's
so much of it is where you land. We both
love Sam Darnold. They went big on free agency. They
didn't hit on any of them. I mean worse, and
I know you're complainant, but that was worse than what
I experienced. I was like, dang so, But like you said,
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if you're that generational talent, okay, you're gonna outlast maybe
some coaching staffs until they land right until it hits.
But if you're not, and you can't potentially play well
enough to withstand those blows, then you get run out
of town. Look at Sam, I mean, you get run
out of town in three years and everybody's like, hey, Sam,
I guess nice to know you good luck. I mean
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they don't even know what they had yet. It's interesting
because I do feel I do believe the Jets. Joe Douglas.
I know Joe. I thought he had a good first year.
I think he's really sharp. So I do think Zach
has a chance. I have no idea what Robert Sala
is a coach. I would have never guessed that Tom
Coflin out of Boston College would beat Belichick twice in
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the Super Bowl. I mean, hell, who knows, right, So
I don't know. I do feel, though, I will say this,
I don't know if you know Matt Rule or Joe Brady.
I do feel like Darnald is getting like mentors, is
getting really hands on mentors. I do think Sam's gonna flourish.
I really do. In Carolina, I guess your thought. I
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think we're going to figure out how good he can be, right,
I think he's finally going to have the resources there
and they're gonna build this thing around him to make
him successful. And now, whether he's a generational talent, we'll
find out, but at least it'll be a fair assessment
after a couple of years. But that's the thing I
sat down with Steve Young recently and we talked about
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this for a while and really beat this thing to death.
But I mean, he's told me stories about Trent Dilfer
when he finally got to Seattle and it was like
the heavens opened up and he's finally in a west
coast system and the thing finally revolves around the quarterback
and you have this epiphany of like, wow, where was
this when I was doing all these other travels around
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the country and not just banging my head against the wall.
It's hard for people on the outside to understand, but
I think Steve put it brilliantly. He said quarterbacks don't
need to be coddled, but they need to be focused. Like,
you gotta make decisions for the quarterback, and there's a
very fine line of making it really comfortable or making
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it a situation where they can thrive and succeed, and
where you're challenging them but also giving them resources. It's
like parenting, right, like you set your kid up for
success when you can, like you know, he can jump
over this little hedge or jump up the curb, or
ride his bike down the hill or whatever, and you
kind of challenge them on it, knowing that you're there
to catch them if they fall and pick them back
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up and dust them off, and hey, let's try it again.
That's essentially what this thing is and there's no perfect
way to do it. It just has to be quarterback focused.
You like Zach Wilson, And I used to quote you
use the other day. You said, you know, he plays
well in chaos, but mark people tend to lean into
what they're good at. Do you worry at all? Twenty
twenty one is not a gun slinger league. Yeah, it's not.
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It's an efficiently league. Do you worry he's a little
too much of a gun sling that? That's my only
issue is that, I said, whatever coordinator he goes to
when that ball snap, you might not know where that
ball is going. And that makes some coordinators uneasy, right,
Or sometimes I think there's there's opportunities where he can
stay on platform, keep his good base and just step
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into the throw and let it go and he'll, you know,
kind of jump into it or fade away a little
bit because he's gotten so used to doing that. If
you don't need it, don't use it. But if you
have that trick shot in your you know, club in
your bag, take it out when appropriate, and that's going
to be part of the learning curve for him, in
addition to the speed of the game and all that
kind of stuff. You know, he's coming from the Mountain West.
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He's going to have a lot to learn. He's going
to be in a very different media market. You're gonna
have to stack all those things, and there's gonna be
a learning curve for each of those categories, whether it's media,
the on the field stuff, the classroom stuff, whatever it is,
it's going to be a little different. So my only
fear with him was, you know, maybe two a little
two riverboat gambler when you don't have to be when
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it's an easy, just routine groundered a second and you
just flip itto first base, flip itto first base. Don't
give me any around the back, you know, through the legs,
lem globetrotters. Just get the guy out, you know what
I'm saying that that's the only criticism. And then you
know when you look at his film and it's you know,
it's unfair to these guys and I was in their shoes,
so I get it. But this whole you know, three
or four months of this draft process is all just like, Okay,
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what's wrong with them? Find find the bruise on the
apple in the supermarket, like inspect it really well too,
you know. And and so you're just like, well, the
twenty nineteen tape doesn't match up even close to the
twenty twenty tape, right, Like, he just he had the
shoulder surgery and he just looks like a completely different player.
So you're like, you know, player A, player B. What
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is that? That's that's where some people are. But I
mean you've got to be comfortable with all that if
you're going to draft him. And I think he's one
of those kids that's already maximize his potential and will
do the same thing moving forward. The only other thing
with the Jets that specific situation they're they're drafting at
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you know, number three or two for a reason, right
they were not very good. They were not good. They
drafted me at number five because they traded up from
sixteen seventeen fifteen right in their middle of the pack.
NFL is not bad. You're a couple of players, a
couple of plays, a couple of games away from going
to the playoffs, which I realized my first two years.
So he's going to be in that situation with a
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lot of young guys. They have a ton of draft capital,
but they're all going to have to grow at the
same time. And that means you're gonna have to hit
on all these guys. It's got to look like the
Blue Angels, right, all five of those planes got to
be hitting in stride in some sense, right, And that's
hard to get all those guys to grow up at
the same time. It's like that Little league team that
you keep together from eight years old to high school.
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By the time they're in high school, they're balling. They
don't even need to talk to each other, they don't
need to practice. They're ready to go. But is that
market a market in which they can let that thing marinate,
cook it up, relax, you know, manage expectations until it
finally you know it's time to pull that thing out
of the oven. I don't know that. That's one of
the toughest things for me because those those expectations are
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awfully high. So there was a guy years ago named
Jason Campbell. He played at Auburn, then he went to Washington.
He had seven coordinators in like eight years and I
thought he was already good. And I remember saying, can
you imagine if I had a different producer for seven
straight years in radio? You differently? You had a lot
of stability in New York, and then it was here
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for your, here for your, here for you, here for
your so a lot of times. I don't think fans
understand that that if you had a different boss, a
different sales manager every year, who was the single best
because you had a lot of quick learning to do
after the Jets, the single smartest, best play caller or
coordinator you had that you look back and think, God,
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I wish I could have worked with him from day one. Well,
I think, just based on time on task, was probably
Philly and coach Kelly. I know, I know there's Philadelphia
fans that would kill me for saying that, because they,
I mean, hated him by the end. They wanted to
run him out of town. I think some of the
management moves weren't, you know, him and Howry Roseman weren't
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like perfectly on the same page, which tend to happen.
Tends to happen. But I think because the system was
so easy to pick up, that was like boom, I
you know, as soon as I got in, I was gone,
like it was good. We're rolling. But when we get
rid of all those playmakers, you know, the DeShawn Jackson's
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and Lashawn McCoy's, and try and bring in a back
that's more of a you know, an eye formation under
center stretch zone back into Marco Murray and try and
run gun runs with him. It's just not the same.
And then we had turnover with Nick Foles and Sam Bradford.
So then I play, then don't play, and play then
don't play. That was one of the toughest things, is
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like I know the system. I feel good. I could
run this tempo stuff better than anybody, in my opinion.
And when we're rolling, we're rolling. We just need a
little thicker playbook. And we wanted to keep all those players.
In my opinion, I thought that would have been like
we were right there and early in this season. Tell
me why why why is chips You're the second quarterbacks?
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Who's told me this? Mark? So give me some lexicon,
give me some verbiage. Why is chips system so easy? Um? Okay,
so you know trips right, you know? Um? What would
we say, like, uh sixty three scat z, snag, dagger
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would just be like trio gator, like it's just two words.
If it was more than two words, Chip would get pissed.
So it was just like near and far would just
tell you if you're on the near hash or far hash.
If you're on the far hash, it's three by one
to the field. If you're on the near hash, it's
two by two. Tight end never changes sides, only the
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only the slot receiver. And by the time everybody learned it,
anybody could play any position. So if you had four
whiteouts on the field, it's easy because gators one way,
seminoles the opposite. You know, Lincoln and Ford are two,
it's it'd be double right sixty two, Sam, Zebra shallow
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cross is just near Lincoln. Like that was it. And
so once you learn, you know, dagger and blade and um,
you know, I don't know how to describe. It is
so easy. And everything was signaled, so the only person
I have to communicate to was the running back. And
the only reason I'd communicate to the running back was
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to give him the play faster than he would get
it from the signal, so I'd have it in my helmet,
so I would just grab him and tell him where
to go, Like just put my hand on his jersey
and move him over and say, hey, we're going forty.
You got the mesh, said hut Boom, and handle the ball.
He doesn't need to know anything else. And so it's
great when you get in a groove and a rhythm.
I think there's a place for that, but I think
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we're a little heavy with it because at a certain
point you get to those critical third downs and you
can't run the same play every third down. I mean,
defensive coordinators are just too good. So once you stall
and go three and out and only burn thirty seconds
on the clock because he just threw it three times,
there's literally like fights that almost break out on the
sidelines because the defense gets you the ball back and
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then you just make them go right back on the field.
They're exhausted and they're like, dude, what's the deal, Like,
just run the ball once and give us a little
break here because we're gassed. So it's I think there's
a place for it. I think he was ahead of
his time because all these RPOs that's all Chip. I mean,
that was all Chip. So that kind of stuff, you know,
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you're essentially a second baseman turning two. You got to
have really quick hands. I talked to sarkas In about
this and why mac Jones was so good, and he said,
he's got very quick hands, just like he's turned into
like a double play. And he also is incredibly accurate
on balls that are you know, the swing passes, the
tunnel screens, the quick slants, all that kind of stuff.
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He's a yard in front of the front number. He
never slows those guys down with the football and leaves
meat on the bone, essentially prohibits them from getting you know,
yack yards yards after catch. He's always pushing them into
the next window, pushing them forward, keeping their momentum going
forward towards the line of scrimmage, away from the defender.
That's why he's so deadly. And instead of getting three
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yards or four yards, you're twelve yards. Move the chains,
let's roll, and the defense is just like head spinning.
So that's that's what made those things so good and
so um. It was. Yeah, it was. It was definitely
ahead of its time. No, I think it was. I mean, listen,
there's a company before Facebook called Myspaceace went he was
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and then it didn't have the privacy that Facebook did,
so it had everything right. Rupert Murdoch bought it. Actually,
he would argue today even though it went under, that
it served a purpose for what Fox needed. But it
went under and Facebook was MySpace with better privacy stuff.
And so I look a lot at Chip Kelly and
I think basically Chip Kelly just needed a better personnel
guy and maybe an NFL coordinator to help him situation
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in the red bad. I mean, because he really, if
you look at so much of his stuff now has
been stolen by everybody. Um, you know that's the reality
of it. All right, Let's bring on Mike Silver, formerly
at Sports Illustrated, now works for the NFL Network and
NFL dot Com, and he's very content on Twitter. He
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gets after people. It's too exhausting for me. I have
a theory that everybody's got a hole. Doesn't matter if
it's Bezos, read Hastings at Netflix. Everybody's got a hole.
It doesn't matter except us. We are wizards. But Belichick
has struggled mightily drafting wide receivers. And it's interesting. I've
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had people call me and say, does he or was
Tom Brady such a perfectionist, that he just wouldn't let
him develop, and that Edelman took for years. Is that
Tom is the reason. By the way, He's drafted good
offensive lineman, he's drafted good tight ends, he's drafted solid
running backs. Harris looks good, Sony Michelle. Do you look
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at Belichick and go he can't draft a receiver for
the life of him, or do you say, guess what
Brady was the issue at wide receiver because they draft
everything else pretty good? Oh Man, Scotty Miller looks like
he's developing. Ian I think this is how I see it,
because again I'm old, so I used to be real
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close with Brady and a lot of people close to him,
and for six years there was a lot of you know,
Peyton Manning's got Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne and among others,
and is Marcus Pollard. He is setting passing records, and
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Tom has theon branch who's a really nice player, and
a lot of little mini guys you don't really know,
like David Gibbons and Troy Brown, and you know he's not.
We have to win, you know, we win with defense
and clutch play and field goals. Heaven forbid, we get
Tom some actual weapons, and then they got Randy Boss,
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Dante Stalworth and Wes Welker, who granted at the time,
was not concern it or a weapon, and it was like, oh,
they just set records. It was the best offense we've
ever seen at He's the MVP. So that would suggest
that that was a personnel issue. Now, on the other hand, yes,
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Brady is exacting, and you know there may be some
merit in. If he doesn't trust you, you get buried.
But I would tend to say that they the Patriots,
were not exceptionally aggressive what it came to getting elite
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talent at that position. And when they tried to get
elite talent to kill Harry Chad Jackson, the infamous draft
pick that you know, you looked at them and said, yeah,
there's something else wrong. Like in Chad Jackson's case, I
think he was like a knucklehead, putting it charitably. I
don't know what's going on with Harry. I haven't been
you know, we had a year off basically of access,
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so um, but you know, I heard for twelve years
a very justifiable you know, I went eleven to five
with Matt Castle and we went three and one with
Jimmy and Jacoby Brissette, and that's true. But Tom Brady
just left with in an offseason designed to make what
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he was specifically doing impossible because he was going to
a new team with no offseason or preseason, and took
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to a resounding Super Bowl triumph,
beating Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Patrick mahomes A logged
the way while the Patriots flamed out. So I would
say at this point the any Belichick versus Brady argument
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has skewed a little a little the other way. I'll
just say after twelve years of Matt Castle, by the way,
Brady was pretty testy on the uniform changed. This may
I go on a rats here, this is great. There
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was a playoff game. I want to get the year right.
I think it was I want to say twenty eleven,
but I'm gonna have to look this up. But the
Patriots were losing to the Ravens at home. I think
maybe it was in Baltimore. Patriots were losing to the Ravens.
I think it was at home. It was looking bad,
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and then all of a sudden they started running this
really weird. Formation might have been later than twenty eleven,
but anyway, Shane Vereen is lined up in the slot
but he's not eligible, but some other guy is eligible,
and they're covering Shane Vereen as you would normally cover
number thirty four in the slot, and the refs. It
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happened fast, and the refs are supposed to slow it
down at that point and explained every play to John
Harbon the sidelines. Okay, so this is what they're doing here.
It's technical, it's remember illegal, but you need to know this.
And the refs were so caught off guard it like
Bill found a loophole in the rules, and the refs
were so caught off guard that they just ran through
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and it turned the game around and the Patriots won
the playoff game. I'm gonna google the year in a second,
and I remember such bs And it was technically legal.
It was more on the refs to have regulated it
in a way they didn't. But the spirit of it
I thought was just garbage. And so the irony of
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Tom Brady, the recipient of Shane Boreen lining up number
thirty four ineligible in the slot, is now whining because
oh no, I'm not gonna knows number seventeen is the
linebacker or safety? Really, bro like I'm gonna In fact,
I hope I'm on NFL Network soon. I hope that
they let me red. I just that is unbelievable to
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be of all humans too wide about this. It is
amazing that the recipient of that gift from the refs
of the football gods would be the one to draw
attention to it is amazing. Let's bring in Chad Millman,
chief content officer, my friend of the Action Network. I
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want to talk for a second about San Francisco the Niners.
So the over under is in that like ten win space,
and I feel like I'm not betting on the Niners.
I'm betting on Garoppolo's health, of which three of the
last four years in the toughest division in football, he's
hurt by September. And I thought, when I bet the
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ten wins over under on San Francisco, really, I'm just
betting this. Can he stay healthy because I don't think
any rookie quarterback in that division is going to flourish
as a rookie. And so I thought the forty nine Ers,
if ten's the number, and I'm not sure what you
think the numbers should be on the forty nine ers.
Give it to me if you think there's a number.
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I actually think that's a great under. Bet your thoughts.
I am a huge fan of the Niners, and I
do think I think ten is the right number. I'm
seeing a consensus line of ten and a half, so
I would be comfortable betting the over because of what
you just said about Garoppolo. Every time he plays, they're
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a good team. Then you have Kyle Shanahan playing with Garoppolo,
who Shanahan is a master a game planning and scheming.
You cannot be unimpressed with what he did last season.
Sometimes it seemed like he was having more fun playing
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third stringers and competing in just about every single game
then he might have had when they were dominating on
their way to the super Bowl. Because it plays to
his strengths of just putting the players out there that
he wants to that that he has to play, and
coming up with a scheme that is so good and
so much better than anyone else he is playing against.
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I thought you saw last year the real delta between
Kyle Shanahan as a coach and Sean McVay, who had
been the genius two years prior, because Kyle Shanahan was
so good with such a depleted roster. And I think
you get Jimmy g back. I think you get Bosa
back on the defensive line. I think you're gonna be
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He's They're gonna be a much stronger team. And I
don't care what the Rams have added. I don't care
that Matthew Stafford is there now. He is not someone
who would scare me as someone else in that division.
I love them in that division. All right. Okay, here's
the other one, Millman. So the number of the number
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on the Patriots hovers around nine and a half. What
would it be for you? I've got that. I think
the Patriots are at eight, you know. Okay, here we go,
so here it is. Yeah, Okay, I think it's the
second best over on the board. Here's why they were
a play from eight and eight. So people say Cam
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Newton wasn't good. Cam Newton got COVID and the following
two weeks he was awful down the stretch. He was
not awful. What has Belichick owned in his career? Young quarterbacks?
TA twice, Zach Wilson twice, and he has given Josh
Allen fitz cam now gets the second year in a
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system eight players opt in. They have significantly upgraded at
tight end and at least are better at receiver. This
is a team that was a play from eighteen eight.
The quarterback got COVID seventeen game schedule. Even if are
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not a super Bowl team, and I do not believe
they are eleven and six, that's six losses for Belichick
all the opt ins. He's going to have two essentially
rookie quarterbacks. He has owned rookie quarterbacks. I love the
Patriots over Oh my god, this is such a terrible take.
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Oh my god, I'm play some, don't. I listened to
your brilliant, brilliant segment. I was in the car driving
which one I'm gonna tell you last week where you
broke down the value of playing certain teams at certain
times of the year. Yeah, and that's how you will
get to your win totals, and that's how you will
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get into the playoffs. I thought, I totally thought it
was brilliant. I will tell you my fourteen year old
in the car had some quibbles with it, and we
could talk about that offline. I don't want to take it.
I don't want to take it too deep right here
criticizing your segment. I thought it was great. You are
looking at only the positives. Ay, they did significantly upgrade
at tight end. They got better from being really really
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bad by sending a couple guys who they're probably over
paying for it. Number one, number two Cam Newton was terrible, terrible, terrible,
And even when he was better at the end of
the year, he wasn't more accurate. He wasn't better at
throwing the ball downfield. He was just scoring a lot
of touchdowns from inside the five running the ball. Also,
this defense not very good, not improving. They are middle
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of the pack team in the draft. They are not
going to get some high profile player who's going to
save them. Bill Belichick, great coach, can't argue it, but
he does not have the talent. And don't even talk
about they got better at wide receiver. They are as
mediocre at wide receiver as any other team in the NFL.
They are. They are the definition of average in every
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single way. And basically what you're betting on here, what
you're betting is that Bill Belichick can coach them to
two more wins than they otherwise would be expected to get,
and I don't think he can do that with the
talent he has in the field in that division. By
the way, two was a year removed from being a
rookie fully healthy with a brilliant coach in Brian Flores.
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You can say what you want about Josh Allen. This
could be a regression to the mean year for the Bills,
but I still think their defense is so much better
than what they played. Sean McDermott is such a good coach.
This is a team loaded with playmakers. I am not
going to bet on the Patriots to come away with
say five wins in their division, which is what I
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think they would need to get to ten wins. That
wraps it up for the week before heading into another
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The Volume
The volume. Welcome to Prime Cuts, the best of the
Colin Coward Podcast. Great Week. Dana White was on the show,
talked about Jake Paul, his take on the state of boxing,
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his contentious relationship with the media, and the next big
star in the UFC. Mark Sanchez comes on, gives advice
to Zach Wilson on what it takes to be in
New York Jets quarterbacks. Some great stories, Mike Silver NFL
Insider latest on the draft, dude is totally well connected,
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and Chad Millman betting insights the easiest over and under
bets in the NFL this year. But first, my top
takes of the week. Everybody wants to create a stir.
Everybody wants to be bull old, daring trailblazing. But being
a trailblazer isn't just blazing the trail. It's actually having
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the balls to set the fire, let it burn, and
then walk down the trail you just blazed. The other day,
the heads of all the big European soccer teams blazed
a pretty impressive trail. Then that blaze became a bonfire,
and twenty four hours later they pulled the fire alarm,
broke the glass and ran for the nearest fire escape
in case you need to catch up on this story.
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The other day, like literally the other day, all the
top European soccer clubs like Arsenal, Real, Madrid, Chelsea basically
told the top soccer leagues to go you way for
themselves because they were going off to start their own
super league. Then came the obvious blowback, tons of protests
from angry European soccer fans. Well i'll just say soccer fans,
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since soccer fans in Europe are usually angry anyway, the
fans protested and suddenly the teams got scared. The chairman
of man You resigned, the president of Juventus resigned, and
now the super League is neither super or a league. Figures,
everybody wants to be bold, few have the cajones to
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deal with the blowback. A few years ago, ESPN signed
the edgy bar Stool Sports and put them on the air.
One episode later, they pulled the stool right out from
under them. Recently, Spotify signed the edgy podcaster Joe Rogan,
then oh so quietly removed more than forty of his
episodes that were just two edgy. Those Vanilla executives love
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blazing the trail right up until they get burned. That's
not being bold. In fact, it's the opposite. Listen, I've
had blowback. It's part of my career. But when I
go to a therapist, I don't talk about the audience
that hates me. It's mostly about my weird childhood. And frankly,
half of my audience hates me. Some days I hate
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half my audience. I think it's beautiful. We can at
least share that common ground these days. If you can't
stand the heat, not only get out of the kitchen,
still eat your Twitter. So all those bold and daring,
trailblazing leaders of the European soccer world, I commend you
for that solid twenty seven hours of boldness. You showed.
Well done. Next time, who knows, maybe it can last
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a whole week. Saturday night, I watched Jake Paul beat
Ben Askron. Ben Askin was a like an MMA guy.
One punch fight, Jake Paul's like a YouTuber knocked him out,
and you know, I think it's really interesting. Two things
jump to me. First of all, it's hard to be
good at two things. It's impossible to be great at
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two things. When MMA guys try to box, they look awful.
When boxers going to the octagon, they look awful. Michael
Jordan couldn't hit a baseball curve and Randy Moss couldn't hoop.
The reality is Dion Sanders is a once in a
lifetime athlete that could do both. But you know, it's
funny about boxing and UFE. And I've heard this, it's stick.
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How can you watch Jake Paul, Let me ask you.
Was it interesting? Was it interesting? Yeah? It got one
point five million pay per views. I'm a fan of interesting.
When I was a kid growing up, there was an
industry in America that was fairly dynamic. It was Daredevil's
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Evil Knevil. So I got a job in Las Vegas
and I watched a couple of Daredevils perform live. To
this day, it's the first or second most captivating stuff
I've ever seen live. Daredevils are fascinating. YouTube stars, boxing, MMA,
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guys is interesting. Not everything has to be Game seven
of the World Series, and not everything has to be
Saturday Night sec football. I always look at I always
look at it this way. We have a million regular
season baseball games. Look at all the sports we have
in Erica today, maybe five percent of sports is championship
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level stuff the rest of its regular season out of conference,
not urgent. I will take championship level, legitimate sports first.
But if you give me Jake Paul and Ben Askron
over the Milwaukee Brewers and the Atlanta Braves on a Tuesday,
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I'm gonna take Jake Paul. All right. I've known Dana
White for a long time. Don't really need to introduce him,
but I've been saying the last week anybody in life
that does something first gets the most blowback. And I
thought the commissioner that did the best job in the
country was not Adam Silver Roger Goodell, it was Dana White.
Because it's really easy to follow somebody else who takes
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the headwind, and it was easier for everybody else. And Dana,
who started this business with about two million bucks in
two thousand and one, sold it for over four billion.
And you think bitcoin is making people money, Dana did
very well for himself. It is interesting, Dana, because listen, um,
you got corporations. I mean, you're not just a maverick
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doing it yourself. You got your big beer sponsors, and
so when you went for it and Fight Island did.
Was there any part of you that thought, shit, I'm
gonna get some corporate blowback here from some of my sponsors. Yeah,
first of all, thank you. At second of all, yes,
we definitely thought we would. But our sponsors were pretty cool.
Actually they let me, let me put it to you
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this way. So when we went, our sponsors stood by us,
and it stuck with us, and we're very cool. Then
sponsorship went through the roof. Once we pulled it off safely,
we killed it. We killed it in twenty twenty was
sponsorship and it led over into twenty twenty one and
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we have the all time record for the company for
global sponsorship. So I took my wife's not a sports fan,
but I took her to Mayweather and McGregor and it
was the most fun. It was better than any concert
we've gone to. And it's interesting, Dana this and I'm
and listen, I'm I'm kind of a traditionalist. But I
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grew up with their devils. I grew up, you know,
I grew up with that shit evil Knevil. And I
remember when Ali fought a Japanese wrestler and I watched
Jake Paul this weekend and I know it's sticky, but
I'm sitting to myself thinking, if it's interesting, you have
to have these conversations McGregor and Mayweather was fascinating And
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I'm thinking to myself, you know, we can all make
fun of Jake Paul, but shit, he's three and oh
he's totally into it. I mean, he's not going to
be a heavyweight champ, but there's something there. I mean,
how do you view a celebrity boxer who is authentic
and is into it and he cares. How do you
view it? Let me tell you what boxing has just
continues to decline like this and this, this whole Jake
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Paul thing is the right guy at the right time.
And you know, this kid's doing what he needs to
do and he's gonna get paid. He's getting paid. Um,
you know, he keeps, you know, doing what he's doing.
He's got these these kids, you know believing, you know,
they're believing that this guy is the guy. And part
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of being a showman and and making money and doing
these things and being an entertainer is all part of
what this kid is doing. And he's doing it. Dana.
The great thing about being an international sport is the
quality of your sport is just deep. There's just more
good fighters now, there is that balance. Part of the
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NFL's success is it's a strictly domestic product. Hockey's international.
Basketball is increasingly international. You currently have a lot of
international champions, not as many domestic. This is a two
part question. Number one, why do certain cultures Russia, why
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do they produce so many good fighters? And are you
ever concerned that you don't have enough you know, domestic champs. Yeah,
it's it's it's funny because as the sport was growing,
there were obviously a lot of American champions, a lot
of Brazilian champions, and as it's grown internationally, you know,
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it's part of what's what's helped this thing grow. When
you get somebody, for instance, like Connor McGregor, when you
get a guy looks like you, talks like you, it
comes from where you come from, and he's seen as
the baddest motherfucker in the world. Everybody in that country
gets behind him, you know. So he really helped Europe explode.
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We got three Africans right now, right it's exploding in Africa.
We're working on doing an event, we're probably gonna do
an event in twenty twenty two in Africa, which has
always been a dream of mine. So that's huge. And
one of the things about fighting that's fascinating is as
Americans like if an Italian, we got a kid named
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a Tory who's Italian. If he wins and becomes a
world champion, like he's in the top five right now,
if he becomes a world champion, believe in Italy's gonna
blow up. Everybody in Italy will be talking about UFC
and watch the UFC. But in America, we don't care
as much where these guys are from. We just care
who's the best, and we just want to see the
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best compete. The guy could be British, the guy could
be American, the guy could be Polish, Italian, Puerto Rican.
We don't care. We just want to see the best
fight the best. You've been combative with the media, but
I always wonder do you really need at this point, Dana,
Do you need the media? That's a great question. And
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I'm very combative with the media because they're full of shit,
and every time I read something, and you know, it
makes me crazy, So I don't read anything afore I
try to stay away from it. But yeah, I wouldn't
say that we don't need the media. I think that
there are a lot of people out there that have,
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you know, a fan base on a following and have
their own opinions or perspectives on things that that people
want to want to see in here. So yeah, yeah,
I think we do need the media. I think the
problem is today, here's the problem with today determining who's
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media and who's not. Anybody who can create a fucking
website now considers themselves media, you know what I mean?
Or if they have an Instagram, you know, now I
can become media. It's just most of these people are
full of shit and have no place writing or talking
about anything. But there are some real good media people
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Mark Sanchez for a while. He was a number one
high school football quarterback in the country, and I'm a
recruiting dorc And then he went to USC and he
was all Pack twelve, and then he left early, went
to the Jets, and I was in Connecticut. Now he's
a really really talented broadcaster and a good all around dude.
There's five first round quarterbacks. I said, I think two
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will succeed because that's the precedent, the historical precedent, I said,
Trevor Lawrence, and whoever lands with the forty nine ers,
I'm like, because you know how mean. It's like Lamar
Jackson works with hardball, but if you don't have it,
maybe he doesn't. Josh Allen's great because you have Brian
day ball and a good GM and so. And I
bring it out with you because I really do think
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unless you're a once in a decade elway luck, it's
so much of it is where you land. We both
love Sam Darnold. They went big on free agency. They
didn't hit on any of them. I mean worse, and
I know you're complainant, but that was worse than what
I experienced. I was like, dang so, But like you said,
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if you're that generational talent, okay, you're gonna outlast maybe
some coaching staffs until they land right until it hits.
But if you're not, and you can't potentially play well
enough to withstand those blows, then you get run out
of town. Look at Sam, I mean, you get run
out of town in three years and everybody's like, hey, Sam,
I guess nice to know you good luck. I mean
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they don't even know what they had yet. It's interesting
because I do feel I do believe the Jets. Joe Douglas.
I know Joe. I thought he had a good first year.
I think he's really sharp. So I do think Zach
has a chance. I have no idea what Robert Sala
is a coach. I would have never guessed that Tom
Coflin out of Boston College would beat Belichick twice in
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the Super Bowl. I mean, hell, who knows, right, So
I don't know. I do feel, though, I will say this,
I don't know if you know Matt Rule or Joe Brady.
I do feel like Darnald is getting like mentors, is
getting really hands on mentors. I do think Sam's gonna flourish.
I really do. In Carolina, I guess your thought. I
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think we're going to figure out how good he can be, right,
I think he's finally going to have the resources there
and they're gonna build this thing around him to make
him successful. And now, whether he's a generational talent, we'll
find out, but at least it'll be a fair assessment
after a couple of years. But that's the thing I
sat down with Steve Young recently and we talked about
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this for a while and really beat this thing to death.
But I mean, he's told me stories about Trent Dilfer
when he finally got to Seattle and it was like
the heavens opened up and he's finally in a west
coast system and the thing finally revolves around the quarterback
and you have this epiphany of like, wow, where was
this when I was doing all these other travels around
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the country and not just banging my head against the wall.
It's hard for people on the outside to understand, but
I think Steve put it brilliantly. He said quarterbacks don't
need to be coddled, but they need to be focused. Like,
you gotta make decisions for the quarterback, and there's a
very fine line of making it really comfortable or making
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it a situation where they can thrive and succeed, and
where you're challenging them but also giving them resources. It's
like parenting, right, like you set your kid up for
success when you can, like you know, he can jump
over this little hedge or jump up the curb, or
ride his bike down the hill or whatever, and you
kind of challenge them on it, knowing that you're there
to catch them if they fall and pick them back
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up and dust them off, and hey, let's try it again.
That's essentially what this thing is and there's no perfect
way to do it. It just has to be quarterback focused.
You like Zach Wilson, And I used to quote you
use the other day. You said, you know, he plays
well in chaos, but mark people tend to lean into
what they're good at. Do you worry at all? Twenty
twenty one is not a gun slinger league. Yeah, it's not.
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It's an efficiently league. Do you worry he's a little
too much of a gun sling that? That's my only
issue is that, I said, whatever coordinator he goes to
when that ball snap, you might not know where that
ball is going. And that makes some coordinators uneasy, right,
Or sometimes I think there's there's opportunities where he can
stay on platform, keep his good base and just step
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into the throw and let it go and he'll, you know,
kind of jump into it or fade away a little
bit because he's gotten so used to doing that. If
you don't need it, don't use it. But if you
have that trick shot in your you know, club in
your bag, take it out when appropriate, and that's going
to be part of the learning curve for him, in
addition to the speed of the game and all that
kind of stuff. You know, he's coming from the Mountain West.
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He's going to have a lot to learn. He's going
to be in a very different media market. You're gonna
have to stack all those things, and there's gonna be
a learning curve for each of those categories, whether it's media,
the on the field stuff, the classroom stuff, whatever it is,
it's going to be a little different. So my only
fear with him was, you know, maybe two a little
two riverboat gambler when you don't have to be when
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it's an easy, just routine groundered a second and you
just flip itto first base, flip itto first base. Don't
give me any around the back, you know, through the legs,
lem globetrotters. Just get the guy out, you know what
I'm saying that that's the only criticism. And then you
know when you look at his film and it's you know,
it's unfair to these guys and I was in their shoes,
so I get it. But this whole you know, three
or four months of this draft process is all just like, Okay,
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what's wrong with them? Find find the bruise on the
apple in the supermarket, like inspect it really well too,
you know. And and so you're just like, well, the
twenty nineteen tape doesn't match up even close to the
twenty twenty tape, right, Like, he just he had the
shoulder surgery and he just looks like a completely different player.
So you're like, you know, player A, player B. What
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is that? That's that's where some people are. But I
mean you've got to be comfortable with all that if
you're going to draft him. And I think he's one
of those kids that's already maximize his potential and will
do the same thing moving forward. The only other thing
with the Jets that specific situation they're they're drafting at
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you know, number three or two for a reason, right
they were not very good. They were not good. They
drafted me at number five because they traded up from
sixteen seventeen fifteen right in their middle of the pack.
NFL is not bad. You're a couple of players, a
couple of plays, a couple of games away from going
to the playoffs, which I realized my first two years.
So he's going to be in that situation with a
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lot of young guys. They have a ton of draft capital,
but they're all going to have to grow at the
same time. And that means you're gonna have to hit
on all these guys. It's got to look like the
Blue Angels, right, all five of those planes got to
be hitting in stride in some sense, right, And that's
hard to get all those guys to grow up at
the same time. It's like that Little league team that
you keep together from eight years old to high school.
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By the time they're in high school, they're balling. They
don't even need to talk to each other, they don't
need to practice. They're ready to go. But is that
market a market in which they can let that thing marinate,
cook it up, relax, you know, manage expectations until it
finally you know it's time to pull that thing out
of the oven. I don't know that. That's one of
the toughest things for me because those those expectations are
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awfully high. So there was a guy years ago named
Jason Campbell. He played at Auburn, then he went to Washington.
He had seven coordinators in like eight years and I
thought he was already good. And I remember saying, can
you imagine if I had a different producer for seven
straight years in radio? You differently? You had a lot
of stability in New York, and then it was here
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for your, here for your, here for you, here for
your so a lot of times. I don't think fans
understand that that if you had a different boss, a
different sales manager every year, who was the single best
because you had a lot of quick learning to do
after the Jets, the single smartest, best play caller or
coordinator you had that you look back and think, God,
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I wish I could have worked with him from day one. Well,
I think, just based on time on task, was probably
Philly and coach Kelly. I know, I know there's Philadelphia
fans that would kill me for saying that, because they,
I mean, hated him by the end. They wanted to
run him out of town. I think some of the
management moves weren't, you know, him and Howry Roseman weren't
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like perfectly on the same page, which tend to happen.
Tends to happen. But I think because the system was
so easy to pick up, that was like boom, I
you know, as soon as I got in, I was gone,
like it was good. We're rolling. But when we get
rid of all those playmakers, you know, the DeShawn Jackson's
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and Lashawn McCoy's, and try and bring in a back
that's more of a you know, an eye formation under
center stretch zone back into Marco Murray and try and
run gun runs with him. It's just not the same.
And then we had turnover with Nick Foles and Sam Bradford.
So then I play, then don't play, and play then
don't play. That was one of the toughest things, is
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like I know the system. I feel good. I could
run this tempo stuff better than anybody, in my opinion.
And when we're rolling, we're rolling. We just need a
little thicker playbook. And we wanted to keep all those players.
In my opinion, I thought that would have been like
we were right there and early in this season. Tell
me why why why is chips You're the second quarterbacks?
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Who's told me this? Mark? So give me some lexicon,
give me some verbiage. Why is chips system so easy? Um? Okay,
so you know trips right, you know? Um? What would
we say, like, uh sixty three scat z, snag, dagger
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would just be like trio gator, like it's just two words.
If it was more than two words, Chip would get pissed.
So it was just like near and far would just
tell you if you're on the near hash or far hash.
If you're on the far hash, it's three by one
to the field. If you're on the near hash, it's
two by two. Tight end never changes sides, only the
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only the slot receiver. And by the time everybody learned it,
anybody could play any position. So if you had four
whiteouts on the field, it's easy because gators one way,
seminoles the opposite. You know, Lincoln and Ford are two,
it's it'd be double right sixty two, Sam, Zebra shallow
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cross is just near Lincoln. Like that was it. And
so once you learn, you know, dagger and blade and um,
you know, I don't know how to describe. It is
so easy. And everything was signaled, so the only person
I have to communicate to was the running back. And
the only reason I'd communicate to the running back was
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to give him the play faster than he would get
it from the signal, so I'd have it in my helmet,
so I would just grab him and tell him where
to go, Like just put my hand on his jersey
and move him over and say, hey, we're going forty.
You got the mesh, said hut Boom, and handle the ball.
He doesn't need to know anything else. And so it's
great when you get in a groove and a rhythm.
I think there's a place for that, but I think
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we're a little heavy with it because at a certain
point you get to those critical third downs and you
can't run the same play every third down. I mean,
defensive coordinators are just too good. So once you stall
and go three and out and only burn thirty seconds
on the clock because he just threw it three times,
there's literally like fights that almost break out on the
sidelines because the defense gets you the ball back and
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then you just make them go right back on the field.
They're exhausted and they're like, dude, what's the deal, Like,
just run the ball once and give us a little
break here because we're gassed. So it's I think there's
a place for it. I think he was ahead of
his time because all these RPOs that's all Chip. I mean,
that was all Chip. So that kind of stuff, you know,
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you're essentially a second baseman turning two. You got to
have really quick hands. I talked to sarkas In about
this and why mac Jones was so good, and he said,
he's got very quick hands, just like he's turned into
like a double play. And he also is incredibly accurate
on balls that are you know, the swing passes, the
tunnel screens, the quick slants, all that kind of stuff.
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He's a yard in front of the front number. He
never slows those guys down with the football and leaves
meat on the bone, essentially prohibits them from getting you know,
yack yards yards after catch. He's always pushing them into
the next window, pushing them forward, keeping their momentum going
forward towards the line of scrimmage, away from the defender.
That's why he's so deadly. And instead of getting three
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yards or four yards, you're twelve yards. Move the chains,
let's roll, and the defense is just like head spinning.
So that's that's what made those things so good and
so um. It was. Yeah, it was. It was definitely
ahead of its time. No, I think it was. I mean, listen,
there's a company before Facebook called Myspaceace went he was
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and then it didn't have the privacy that Facebook did,
so it had everything right. Rupert Murdoch bought it. Actually,
he would argue today even though it went under, that
it served a purpose for what Fox needed. But it
went under and Facebook was MySpace with better privacy stuff.
And so I look a lot at Chip Kelly and
I think basically Chip Kelly just needed a better personnel
guy and maybe an NFL coordinator to help him situation
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in the red bad. I mean, because he really, if
you look at so much of his stuff now has
been stolen by everybody. Um, you know that's the reality
of it. All right, Let's bring on Mike Silver, formerly
at Sports Illustrated, now works for the NFL Network and
NFL dot Com, and he's very content on Twitter. He
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gets after people. It's too exhausting for me. I have
a theory that everybody's got a hole. Doesn't matter if
it's Bezos, read Hastings at Netflix. Everybody's got a hole.
It doesn't matter except us. We are wizards. But Belichick
has struggled mightily drafting wide receivers. And it's interesting. I've
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had people call me and say, does he or was
Tom Brady such a perfectionist, that he just wouldn't let
him develop, and that Edelman took for years. Is that
Tom is the reason. By the way, He's drafted good
offensive lineman, he's drafted good tight ends, he's drafted solid
running backs. Harris looks good, Sony Michelle. Do you look
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at Belichick and go he can't draft a receiver for
the life of him, or do you say, guess what
Brady was the issue at wide receiver because they draft
everything else pretty good? Oh Man, Scotty Miller looks like
he's developing. Ian I think this is how I see it,
because again I'm old, so I used to be real
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close with Brady and a lot of people close to him,
and for six years there was a lot of you know,
Peyton Manning's got Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne and among others,
and is Marcus Pollard. He is setting passing records, and
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Tom has theon branch who's a really nice player, and
a lot of little mini guys you don't really know,
like David Gibbons and Troy Brown, and you know he's not.
We have to win, you know, we win with defense
and clutch play and field goals. Heaven forbid, we get
Tom some actual weapons, and then they got Randy Boss,
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Dante Stalworth and Wes Welker, who granted at the time,
was not concern it or a weapon, and it was like, oh,
they just set records. It was the best offense we've
ever seen at He's the MVP. So that would suggest
that that was a personnel issue. Now, on the other hand, yes,
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Brady is exacting, and you know there may be some
merit in. If he doesn't trust you, you get buried.
But I would tend to say that they the Patriots,
were not exceptionally aggressive what it came to getting elite
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talent at that position. And when they tried to get
elite talent to kill Harry Chad Jackson, the infamous draft
pick that you know, you looked at them and said, yeah,
there's something else wrong. Like in Chad Jackson's case, I
think he was like a knucklehead, putting it charitably. I
don't know what's going on with Harry. I haven't been
you know, we had a year off basically of access,
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so um, but you know, I heard for twelve years
a very justifiable you know, I went eleven to five
with Matt Castle and we went three and one with
Jimmy and Jacoby Brissette, and that's true. But Tom Brady
just left with in an offseason designed to make what
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he was specifically doing impossible because he was going to
a new team with no offseason or preseason, and took
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to a resounding Super Bowl triumph,
beating Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Patrick mahomes A logged
the way while the Patriots flamed out. So I would
say at this point the any Belichick versus Brady argument
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has skewed a little a little the other way. I'll
just say after twelve years of Matt Castle, by the way,
Brady was pretty testy on the uniform changed. This may
I go on a rats here, this is great. There
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was a playoff game. I want to get the year right.
I think it was I want to say twenty eleven,
but I'm gonna have to look this up. But the
Patriots were losing to the Ravens at home. I think
maybe it was in Baltimore. Patriots were losing to the Ravens.
I think it was at home. It was looking bad,
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and then all of a sudden they started running this
really weird. Formation might have been later than twenty eleven,
but anyway, Shane Vereen is lined up in the slot
but he's not eligible, but some other guy is eligible,
and they're covering Shane Vereen as you would normally cover
number thirty four in the slot, and the refs. It
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happened fast, and the refs are supposed to slow it
down at that point and explained every play to John
Harbon the sidelines. Okay, so this is what they're doing here.
It's technical, it's remember illegal, but you need to know this.
And the refs were so caught off guard it like
Bill found a loophole in the rules, and the refs
were so caught off guard that they just ran through
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and it turned the game around and the Patriots won
the playoff game. I'm gonna google the year in a second,
and I remember such bs And it was technically legal.
It was more on the refs to have regulated it
in a way they didn't. But the spirit of it
I thought was just garbage. And so the irony of
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Tom Brady, the recipient of Shane Boreen lining up number
thirty four ineligible in the slot, is now whining because
oh no, I'm not gonna knows number seventeen is the
linebacker or safety? Really, bro like I'm gonna In fact,
I hope I'm on NFL Network soon. I hope that
they let me red. I just that is unbelievable to
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be of all humans too wide about this. It is
amazing that the recipient of that gift from the refs
of the football gods would be the one to draw
attention to it is amazing. Let's bring in Chad Millman,
chief content officer, my friend of the Action Network. I
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want to talk for a second about San Francisco the Niners.
So the over under is in that like ten win space,
and I feel like I'm not betting on the Niners.
I'm betting on Garoppolo's health, of which three of the
last four years in the toughest division in football, he's
hurt by September. And I thought, when I bet the
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ten wins over under on San Francisco, really, I'm just
betting this. Can he stay healthy because I don't think
any rookie quarterback in that division is going to flourish
as a rookie. And so I thought the forty nine Ers,
if ten's the number, and I'm not sure what you
think the numbers should be on the forty nine ers.
Give it to me if you think there's a number.
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I actually think that's a great under. Bet your thoughts.
I am a huge fan of the Niners, and I
do think I think ten is the right number. I'm
seeing a consensus line of ten and a half, so
I would be comfortable betting the over because of what
you just said about Garoppolo. Every time he plays, they're
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a good team. Then you have Kyle Shanahan playing with Garoppolo,
who Shanahan is a master a game planning and scheming.
You cannot be unimpressed with what he did last season.
Sometimes it seemed like he was having more fun playing
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third stringers and competing in just about every single game
then he might have had when they were dominating on
their way to the super Bowl. Because it plays to
his strengths of just putting the players out there that
he wants to that that he has to play, and
coming up with a scheme that is so good and
so much better than anyone else he is playing against.
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I thought you saw last year the real delta between
Kyle Shanahan as a coach and Sean McVay, who had
been the genius two years prior, because Kyle Shanahan was
so good with such a depleted roster. And I think
you get Jimmy g back. I think you get Bosa
back on the defensive line. I think you're gonna be
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He's They're gonna be a much stronger team. And I
don't care what the Rams have added. I don't care
that Matthew Stafford is there now. He is not someone
who would scare me as someone else in that division.
I love them in that division. All right. Okay, here's
the other one, Millman. So the number of the number
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on the Patriots hovers around nine and a half. What
would it be for you? I've got that. I think
the Patriots are at eight, you know. Okay, here we go,
so here it is. Yeah, Okay, I think it's the
second best over on the board. Here's why they were
a play from eight and eight. So people say Cam
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Newton wasn't good. Cam Newton got COVID and the following
two weeks he was awful down the stretch. He was
not awful. What has Belichick owned in his career? Young quarterbacks?
TA twice, Zach Wilson twice, and he has given Josh
Allen fitz cam now gets the second year in a
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system eight players opt in. They have significantly upgraded at
tight end and at least are better at receiver. This
is a team that was a play from eighteen eight.
The quarterback got COVID seventeen game schedule. Even if are
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not a super Bowl team, and I do not believe
they are eleven and six, that's six losses for Belichick
all the opt ins. He's going to have two essentially
rookie quarterbacks. He has owned rookie quarterbacks. I love the
Patriots over Oh my god, this is such a terrible take.
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Oh my god, I'm play some, don't. I listened to
your brilliant, brilliant segment. I was in the car driving
which one I'm gonna tell you last week where you
broke down the value of playing certain teams at certain
times of the year. Yeah, and that's how you will
get to your win totals, and that's how you will
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get into the playoffs. I thought, I totally thought it
was brilliant. I will tell you my fourteen year old
in the car had some quibbles with it, and we
could talk about that offline. I don't want to take it.
I don't want to take it too deep right here
criticizing your segment. I thought it was great. You are
looking at only the positives. Ay, they did significantly upgrade
at tight end. They got better from being really really
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bad by sending a couple guys who they're probably over
paying for it. Number one, number two Cam Newton was terrible, terrible, terrible,
And even when he was better at the end of
the year, he wasn't more accurate. He wasn't better at
throwing the ball downfield. He was just scoring a lot
of touchdowns from inside the five running the ball. Also,
this defense not very good, not improving. They are middle
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of the pack team in the draft. They are not
going to get some high profile player who's going to
save them. Bill Belichick, great coach, can't argue it, but
he does not have the talent. And don't even talk
about they got better at wide receiver. They are as
mediocre at wide receiver as any other team in the NFL.
They are. They are the definition of average in every
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single way. And basically what you're betting on here, what
you're betting is that Bill Belichick can coach them to
two more wins than they otherwise would be expected to get,
and I don't think he can do that with the
talent he has in the field in that division. By
the way, two was a year removed from being a
rookie fully healthy with a brilliant coach in Brian Flores.
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You can say what you want about Josh Allen. This
could be a regression to the mean year for the Bills,
but I still think their defense is so much better
than what they played. Sean McDermott is such a good coach.
This is a team loaded with playmakers. I am not
going to bet on the Patriots to come away with
say five wins in their division, which is what I
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think they would need to get to ten wins. That
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