April 12, 2024 • 24 mins
Michael Kosta reports on the fallout from Arizona’s nearly complete abortion ban, sending the GOP into scramble mode. Plus, Jordan Klepper joins Kosta for an enlightening new segment, “Men Talk About Abortion.” Also, are you a politician afraid of going viral for falling down the stairs? Worry no more! Stair Sherpa is the only app where you can request a beefy man in your area to carry you safely up and down any staircase. Nothing embarrassing about this! And cultural critic, poet, and best-selling author Hanif Abdurraqib joins Michael Kosta to discuss his new book “There’s Always This Year” and how the game of basketball can illuminate our understanding of time, urgency, and mortality. Abdurraqib reflects on turning 40, how to reframe aging, the kind of ascension we should strive for, and how to utilize nostalgia as a tool for improvement.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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This it's The Daily Joke with.
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Your host Michael Costa.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yes, oh my god, welcome, Welcome to the Daily Show.
I'm Michael Costa.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We have so much to talk about tonight. Politicians are
falling downstairs. Joe Biden almost remembered what time it is.
And when it comes to abortion, even Republicans are matter Republicans.
So let's get into the headlines. Let's talk about some
big news on the abortion front. Earlier this week, former
(01:03):
President Trump announced that after getting Roe v. Wade overturned,
he's happy with how everything has worked out, because from
now on, each state will make its own rules. Like
you know how sometimes the speed limit is forty five
miles an hour and then down the road it's thirty
five miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, that's how human rights are going to work now,
So what could go wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But then Arizona decided that its law would be a
nearly complete abortion ban that was first enacted during the
Civil War, and even pro life Republicans started freaking out.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Tonight, some Republicans across the country are rhetorically trying to
distance themselves from Arizona's Supreme Court ruling that upholds a
near total abortion ban.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Congresswoman Nancy Mace, a Republican from South Carolina, called it
an asinine ruling.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
And Republican congressman wants this gomani calling the decision disaster
for women and providers. Carrie Lake, locked in one of
the most high profile races in the country. She released
a statement which reads, and I quote, I oppose today's ruling,
and I am calling on Katie Hobbs and the state
legislature to come up with an immediate, common sense solution
that Arizonas can support.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this anti abortion law is being
received as well as OJ Simpson at the Pearly Gates.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Don't see you on here. Even far right Republican Carrie.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Lay hates it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And that can't just be because she's in a tight
Senate race.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Surely she's always hated it, right.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Carry Lake previously said this about the eighteen sixty four
law less than two years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a
great law that's already on the books.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I believe it's ars thirteen thirty six oh three.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Wow, Carry Lake didn't just support this bill, she knew
it's bill number by heart. I believe it's ARS thirteen
thirty six oh three. She said that, like when a
guy tries to play it cool about how much he's
into Dune, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh yeah, I think I've heard of that movie.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I believe that's the one where Paul at Trades wields
the power of the Bena Jesuit to fulfill the prophecy
of the Lizingel Gay.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I think that's the one. They changed it from the books.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I mean, look, have you ever loved a loss so
much that you memorized it?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Even the person who wrote the law in eighteen.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sixty four would be like, my lady, thou art a
weirdo or however they talk back on I'm just saying
the way she rattle it off.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Thirteen thirty six three.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm pretty sure if you find Carrie Lake's iPhone, you'll
be able to unlock it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
But hey, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
If even Republicans agree that this abortion ban is too extreme,
then Arizona Democrats can just propose a bill to reverse the.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Old law, and I'm sure the GOP will get on board.
Check it out.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
GOP lawmakers today block a vote to reverse the landmark
ruling from the state Supreme Court yesterday reinstating a pre
statehood near total ban on abortion.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, that's that's weird.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I mean, you guys say it, you don't want an
insane abortion ban.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But then you voted to keep it. It's almost like
you're just totally full of shit.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I mean, listen, if Arizona women, if Arizona women are
going to be forced to live under this law from
eighteen sixty four, then all of Arizona's lawmakers should be
forced to get their healthcare from eighteen sixty four standards too. Yeah,
you've got back pain, put some leeches on it, migrain
(04:37):
more leeches. Feeling depressed, you can see a therapist. Your
therapist is a leech. Okay, clearly, clearly this law has
completely thrown Republicans for a loop.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They hate the law, they love the law. They don't
know what.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
To do, and this is all great news actually for
President Biden, a perfect opportunity to hammer the Republicans in
a swing state for their confusion and their hypocrisy.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Dude, you got a wide open net, my man. All right.
All you need to do is just tap the ball.
And President Biden was asked today what his message is
to Arizonans elect me.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
I'm in the twenty twentieth century, twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, blood, Okay, Hey, Republicans think we're in eighteen sixty four.
The President thinks we're in the twentieth century. If we're
playing by the price is right rules, Biden was closest
without going over right.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Now, Luckily, Arizona voters will be will likely vote on
a bout initiative in November that will let them decide
for themselves if they want abortion to be legal, and
for anyone in Arizona who might need an abortion before then.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Republicans want you to know, Hey, everything's fine. I mean,
this is tricky business.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
How does this play out?
Speaker 7 (06:06):
It hurts Trump for a few days, and then people
start to realize this is not the worst thing in
the world. If you had to travel to another state
to get an abortion, it's not the worst thing in
the world. Hopefully this is a very rare occurrence in
your life. Once in your life, maybe it would do it.
Buying a bus ticket to go somewhere to get it
is not the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's It's true, it's technically can't be the worst thing
in the world as long as that to pay exists.
But what is wrong with you guys? It's not the
worst thing in the world to take a bus to
a different state. It's also not the worst thing in
the world to just let women have rights. You know,
(06:46):
I would say it's actually significantly nicer than going on
a bus.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You know, it doesn't cost you anything.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
There's never a circumstance where someone takes the shit so
bad they need to pull over and wait for a
second bus to pick everybody up. And by the way,
I love that he made this entirely the woman's problem.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Where's the father in this scenario? He can't give her
a ride. He's just standing at the bus station waving.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Like, bye, have a nice abortion, try to pick up
some food on the way home. I mean, Now, a
panel of men talking about abortion might seem like a
ridiculous embarrassment for everyone involved, but I actually think it's
a great idea for our new segment.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Men talk about abortion nowhere joining me? Now is my
main bro, my main man. You're just like me, aren't you. Yeah,
(07:54):
a big old man just watch me open this jar.
I'll finish it. I was softened it up. You softened
it up, big dog. All right, let's get right to it.
Manda man, what's your solution for abortion? Okay, easy, peasy, livin.
Speaker 9 (08:10):
Squeeze, all right, yeah, yeah, woman needs an abortion. She
should just take the bus to a state.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Words league.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
Okay, Look, obviously I've.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Never had to travel on a state for an abortion.
Speaker 9 (08:20):
But I did accidentally hit myself in the balls trying
to double knot my deck shoes. I cried so hard
the helicoptered me to a hospital in the next state.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I was fined. Couldn't agree more, Chief, couldn't agree more? Chief.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Women should just take the bus ride or just give birth.
And look, I've never given birth.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
Of course not but I but you would crush it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you did. I mean you would it.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I got what's frustrating for women, But we can't all
we you know, we have rights some places and other places.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
We know.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
For example, I'm not allowed to go to the Epcot
food court anymore because apparently you can't do that to
the funnel cakes.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I mean double stands, double stand totals, double stander.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
Look, look, women are.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Making too big a deal about all this. Look, I've
never had.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
To walk through a line of protesters to get basic
health care, but I have had to make eye contact
with the woman at Walgreens weill buying a pack of
slim fit Trojan Condo.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
So I go.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Sometimes you gotta get past feeling John Sladies, you're brave.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You are brave, my bro ham. And by the way,
what about the father's right The fathers have to have
right right? Right? Are you a father? I am not
a father.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
No, No, I would like to be, but I haven't
quite figured out how it works. Yes, wrong, I do
know boobs are involved, though you know, how about you?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I haven't found the right lady yet.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I was in a relationship for several years, but she
turned out to be a raccoon and she tricked me
out of my credit.
Speaker 9 (09:49):
Oh tailors, all his time playing tails, all his time.
In fact, my ex was three possums in a trench coat.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Just boys. When it comes to its right to we
get it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, all right, before we go, quick question, what is
an abortion?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Not a clue? Not a clue?
Speaker 9 (10:11):
But but but I think the boobs are once again involved.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Sounds right to me, My main man Broham Jones.
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My guest Tonight, My Guest Tonight is a cultural critic, poet,
and best selling author whose new book is called There's
Always This Year, on basketball and ascension, Please walk, Anif.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Abdu Raki unbelievable. This book, There's Always This Year. This
(15:23):
is a beautiful book.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's been said ball is life, but you have written
a book about basketball, poetry, meditation, music, lebron Was your
intention to do ball as life?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Right here?
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Everything?
Speaker 8 (15:38):
Yes, And in some ways I think I failed, But
in other ways I think I succeeded. My hope was
to write a book where anyone could see their own
interest in it. You know, it's like walking to a
body of water, looking in and seeing what you most
want reflect it back to you. So if you are
in this book saying I want to find a basketball book,
you will. If you're in this book saying I want
to meditate on grief or place or home, you will.
(15:59):
If you are someone who wants to see a complicated
relationship with lineage and parentage reflected back to you, you will.
So in that way.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I you know, you tell the story of seeing your
dad shoot a basketball once one time, and this book
reminded me of how much I love basketball, and also
how much I watched with my dad, and I wonder
it's not often described this way.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is basketball a family sport?
Speaker 8 (16:26):
It feels like at least a family sport from the
standpoint of witness. I grew up in a house of
Knicks fans largely, and I remember my mother loving Charles
Smith and you know, the dislike for the Bulls, so
you know, it was strange for me. I can't love
Michael Jordan because you know so in some ways basketball
is in a family that loves basketball, it gets passed down.
(16:47):
Like so many other things. You learn to love the
game through the people you witness loving the game, and
that I think is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
My dad loved the floater, yeah, the best, and you
describe it in here, you know, and I I just
have do you mind.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
If I read some your words to you? Really? Isn't
that strange? In honor? But strange? Yeah, it's gotta be weird.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
The float or the most romantic shot in the game,
when done right, it's almost obsessed with drama. Almost pausing
in the air to make sure you get its good
side before it begins to twirl downward. I thought of
my dad when I read that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Really you did that.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
You read that beautiful man. I'll tell you, I'm in
the second half of my book tour. You should take
over from that.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I can take over.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But it's just one example of the things you described
so well. You said you're a Knicks fan, so you're
familiar with there's always next year. But the significance, the
significance of there's always this year.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
It presents a real urgency. I mean, so much of
this book is also about the passage of time, in
making peace with the passage of time, which I think
a lot of people. I turned forty last year. I
think a lot of people as the age think first
about what is being taken from them instead of thinking
about the mini versions of themselves there are to come.
And to present a kind of urgency and an affection
(18:04):
around the time you have and put it in the
immediate moment. For me to structure a book around that
was a real generosity to myself.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, yeah, and the book, you know it's.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And you know he's not just saying that it's actually
divided into quarters and timeouts, and there's clocks as a countdown,
you know, And is that to give me the reader
a sense of like time is limited, enjoy this page.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
I mean, in some ways, to put a literal stop clock,
litteral countdown clock in a book is to say you
the reader and me the writer, because so much of
the process of the book was to make us feel
like we are in this together and understanding what time is,
how much we have left, how much we don't have left.
But some of the language I was attempting was to
slow you down and say, for example, we are all
(18:54):
certainly going to die, but we are not dead yet.
And so since we are not dead yet, have you
ever considered the sunset? And you haven't really considered the sunset?
Because there are infinite sunsets on infinite days as long
as you're alive, And so that urges people to slow
down a bit.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I was in Cleveland this past weekend reading both the
book and.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And the audio.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, So I'm I'm walking around Cleveland and you're
writing about Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yes, a lot a lot of clevel here.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And I had forgotten how good Lebron James is a
basketball Can you believe in it?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
For?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Can you believe that?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I know, I know why, I'm too busy watching the
tennis channel. But you know there's a lot of Lebron James.
But why why is he an important backdrop for you
to tell a story of your life?
Speaker 8 (19:38):
For two reasons. One, I got very interested in this
idea of Lebron James as an immortal figure, someone who
we believe will play forever, because it does seem right
now as though he might play forever. But of course
we also know immortality is a lie. You know, time
is undefeated. As they say, time will get the best
of us eventually. However, in a moment where it feels
like I could focus in on the idea of immortality,
(20:01):
the idea of living forever, yep, it was interesting to me.
But also because for much of my life, Lebron James
did seem like a far away star in the background
of my living. You know, I'd write about being homeless
and walking through the streets of downtown Columbus and hearing
a Cavs game on the background in bars that I
could not get into, And so in a very real,
literal way, Lebron James is in the background of my
(20:21):
living in ways I could not access, and in any
book that analyzed my living and my survival, it felt
as though I should render it, effectively, render what was
in the background that helped me get to the forefront.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, and that leads to my next question, which is home.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yes, you know, I believe you moved back to Columbus
six or seven years ago. You talked about everyone getting
something from this here I am. I feel like we
might have had different childhoods. Ok and man, your description
of going back home to Ohio reminds me of when
I go home to Michigan. Of did I have to
leave Michigan to be successful in comedy? Do we have
(20:56):
to leave? What is ascension? All of this was hitting
me in the face. What is home to you and
you need to leave it?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
I don't think I need. I mean, one, it's good
to talk to another Midwestern Yeah, for sure, I will
say for me, I never felt the need to leave home.
I think this book is also trying to realign a
consideration of what making it is. Ascension not necessarily is
something that sends you upward, but anything that moves you
from the place you were to the place you're going,
and sometimes that place geographically is the same, but is
(21:25):
emotionally different. It's mentally different all of these things. And
for me, if you have a place you love and
a place where you can do your work, and a
place where your name will be cemented for years after
you are gone, for anything you have done, you've made it.
Even if what you know, my mother passed away when
I was thirteen. When my mother passed away, there were
(21:46):
grocery workers and postal workers who mourned her passing because
of how kind and generous she was to the people
in her orbit. And therefore her kindness is a part
of that legacy. And so my mother made it. Love,
So you know your legacy is right.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I need help. I need your help.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You wrote the nostalgia is a relentless hustler.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Truly, please educate me.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I know you did it in here, but I needed
help with. You need help with Okay.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
So there's a useful way to say. If we sit
back and talk about the good old days of our
Midwestern youth, that's a lot of fun, and we could
do that, but it actually doesn't do anything to inform
the way we can live thoughtfully and generously. Now nostalgia
for nostalgia's sake. It's great, But there's a difference between, say,
a porch conversation and a page conversation. A page conversation
(22:33):
has to use nostalgia as a way to move your
actual present life forward, I think, which I'm not. You know,
porch conversation is fine and fun, but also you know,
I'm not that interested. We're all getting older in the
way that, for example, I play basketball now is different.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, you know, I can't play.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
The way I did when I was twenty or even thirty.
And it doesn't really serve me to sit back and say, man,
in the good ol days, I could run up and
down the court and to do all this other stuff.
But it serves me more to say I cannot do
that anymore, but I can still do this other series
of things that align with what I know about the
game and what I love about the game, and what
my body is still capable of. And when I do
those things, I'm unstoppable for a little while.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I love that, Honey, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
There's always this year is available now, hanif I do right.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Cai, We're gonna take a quick break up for this,
Thank you, madam beautiful book.
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
We have so much to talk about tonight. Politicians are
falling downstairs. Joe Biden almost remembered what time it is.
And when it comes to abortion, even Republicans are matter Republicans.
So let's get into the headlines. Let's talk about some
big news on the abortion front. Earlier this week, former
(01:03):
President Trump announced that after getting Roe v. Wade overturned,
he's happy with how everything has worked out, because from
now on, each state will make its own rules. Like
you know how sometimes the speed limit is forty five
miles an hour and then down the road it's thirty
five miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well, that's how human rights are going to work now,
So what could go wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But then Arizona decided that its law would be a
nearly complete abortion ban that was first enacted during the
Civil War, and even pro life Republicans started freaking out.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Tonight, some Republicans across the country are rhetorically trying to
distance themselves from Arizona's Supreme Court ruling that upholds a
near total abortion ban.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Congresswoman Nancy Mace, a Republican from South Carolina, called it
an asinine ruling.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
And Republican congressman wants this gomani calling the decision disaster
for women and providers. Carrie Lake, locked in one of
the most high profile races in the country. She released
a statement which reads, and I quote, I oppose today's ruling,
and I am calling on Katie Hobbs and the state
legislature to come up with an immediate, common sense solution
that Arizonas can support.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this anti abortion law is being
received as well as OJ Simpson at the Pearly Gates.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Don't see you on here. Even far right Republican Carrie.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Lay hates it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And that can't just be because she's in a tight
Senate race.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Surely she's always hated it, right.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Carry Lake previously said this about the eighteen sixty four
law less than two years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm incredibly thrilled that we are going to have a
great law that's already on the books.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I believe it's ars thirteen thirty six oh three.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Wow, Carry Lake didn't just support this bill, she knew
it's bill number by heart. I believe it's ARS thirteen
thirty six oh three. She said that, like when a
guy tries to play it cool about how much he's
into Dune, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh yeah, I think I've heard of that movie.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I believe that's the one where Paul at Trades wields
the power of the Bena Jesuit to fulfill the prophecy
of the Lizingel Gay.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I think that's the one. They changed it from the books.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I mean, look, have you ever loved a loss so
much that you memorized it?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Even the person who wrote the law in eighteen.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sixty four would be like, my lady, thou art a
weirdo or however they talk back on I'm just saying
the way she rattle it off.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Thirteen thirty six three.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm pretty sure if you find Carrie Lake's iPhone, you'll
be able to unlock it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
But hey, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
If even Republicans agree that this abortion ban is too extreme,
then Arizona Democrats can just propose a bill to reverse the.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Old law, and I'm sure the GOP will get on board.
Check it out.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
GOP lawmakers today block a vote to reverse the landmark
ruling from the state Supreme Court yesterday reinstating a pre
statehood near total ban on abortion.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, that's that's weird.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I mean, you guys say it, you don't want an
insane abortion ban.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But then you voted to keep it. It's almost like
you're just totally full of shit.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I mean, listen, if Arizona women, if Arizona women are
going to be forced to live under this law from
eighteen sixty four, then all of Arizona's lawmakers should be
forced to get their healthcare from eighteen sixty four standards too. Yeah,
you've got back pain, put some leeches on it, migrain
(04:37):
more leeches. Feeling depressed, you can see a therapist. Your
therapist is a leech. Okay, clearly, clearly this law has
completely thrown Republicans for a loop.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They hate the law, they love the law. They don't
know what.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
To do, and this is all great news actually for
President Biden, a perfect opportunity to hammer the Republicans in
a swing state for their confusion and their hypocrisy.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Dude, you got a wide open net, my man. All right.
All you need to do is just tap the ball.
And President Biden was asked today what his message is
to Arizonans elect me.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
I'm in the twenty twentieth century, twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, blood, Okay, Hey, Republicans think we're in eighteen sixty four.
The President thinks we're in the twentieth century. If we're
playing by the price is right rules, Biden was closest
without going over right.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Now, Luckily, Arizona voters will be will likely vote on
a bout initiative in November that will let them decide
for themselves if they want abortion to be legal, and
for anyone in Arizona who might need an abortion before then.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Republicans want you to know, Hey, everything's fine. I mean,
this is tricky business.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
How does this play out?
Speaker 7 (06:06):
It hurts Trump for a few days, and then people
start to realize this is not the worst thing in
the world. If you had to travel to another state
to get an abortion, it's not the worst thing in
the world. Hopefully this is a very rare occurrence in
your life. Once in your life, maybe it would do it.
Buying a bus ticket to go somewhere to get it
is not the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's It's true, it's technically can't be the worst thing
in the world as long as that to pay exists.
But what is wrong with you guys? It's not the
worst thing in the world to take a bus to
a different state. It's also not the worst thing in
the world to just let women have rights. You know,
(06:46):
I would say it's actually significantly nicer than going on
a bus.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You know, it doesn't cost you anything.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
There's never a circumstance where someone takes the shit so
bad they need to pull over and wait for a
second bus to pick everybody up. And by the way,
I love that he made this entirely the woman's problem.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Where's the father in this scenario? He can't give her
a ride. He's just standing at the bus station waving.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Like, bye, have a nice abortion, try to pick up
some food on the way home. I mean, Now, a
panel of men talking about abortion might seem like a
ridiculous embarrassment for everyone involved, but I actually think it's
a great idea for our new segment.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Men talk about abortion nowhere joining me? Now is my
main bro, my main man. You're just like me, aren't you. Yeah,
(07:54):
a big old man just watch me open this jar.
I'll finish it. I was softened it up. You softened
it up, big dog. All right, let's get right to it.
Manda man, what's your solution for abortion? Okay, easy, peasy, livin.
Speaker 9 (08:10):
Squeeze, all right, yeah, yeah, woman needs an abortion. She
should just take the bus to a state.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Words league.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
Okay, Look, obviously I've.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Never had to travel on a state for an abortion.
Speaker 9 (08:20):
But I did accidentally hit myself in the balls trying
to double knot my deck shoes. I cried so hard
the helicoptered me to a hospital in the next state.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I was fined. Couldn't agree more, Chief, couldn't agree more? Chief.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Women should just take the bus ride or just give birth.
And look, I've never given birth.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
Of course not but I but you would crush it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you did. I mean you would it.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I got what's frustrating for women, But we can't all
we you know, we have rights some places and other places.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
We know.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
For example, I'm not allowed to go to the Epcot
food court anymore because apparently you can't do that to
the funnel cakes.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I mean double stands, double stand totals, double stander.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
Look, look, women are.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Making too big a deal about all this. Look, I've
never had.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
To walk through a line of protesters to get basic
health care, but I have had to make eye contact
with the woman at Walgreens weill buying a pack of
slim fit Trojan Condo.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
So I go.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Sometimes you gotta get past feeling John Sladies, you're brave.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You are brave, my bro ham. And by the way,
what about the father's right The fathers have to have
right right? Right? Are you a father? I am not
a father.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
No, No, I would like to be, but I haven't
quite figured out how it works. Yes, wrong, I do
know boobs are involved, though you know, how about you?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I haven't found the right lady yet.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I was in a relationship for several years, but she
turned out to be a raccoon and she tricked me
out of my credit.
Speaker 9 (09:49):
Oh tailors, all his time playing tails, all his time.
In fact, my ex was three possums in a trench coat.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Just boys. When it comes to its right to we
get it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, all right, before we go, quick question, what is
an abortion?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Not a clue? Not a clue?
Speaker 9 (10:11):
But but but I think the boobs are once again involved.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Sounds right to me, My main man Broham Jones.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Everybody when we come back for politicians, but don't go right.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, we have a lot of laughs on this
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life in the public eye where you get brutally judged
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Speaker 1 (10:56):
Or pregnant mistress.
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But perhaps nothing is more than garrassing to a politician
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One too many falls.
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Speaker 10 (11:33):
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Speaker 3 (11:44):
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That's why I never make fun of beautiful, charismatic big
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Speaker 3 (12:06):
Fox News was around when FDR was president? Right, I
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Speaker 1 (14:46):
Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
My guest Tonight, My Guest Tonight is a cultural critic, poet,
and best selling author whose new book is called There's
Always This Year, on basketball and ascension, Please walk, Anif.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Abdu Raki unbelievable. This book, There's Always This Year. This
(15:23):
is a beautiful book.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's been said ball is life, but you have written
a book about basketball, poetry, meditation, music, lebron Was your
intention to do ball as life?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Right here?
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Everything?
Speaker 8 (15:38):
Yes, And in some ways I think I failed, But
in other ways I think I succeeded. My hope was
to write a book where anyone could see their own
interest in it. You know, it's like walking to a
body of water, looking in and seeing what you most
want reflect it back to you. So if you are
in this book saying I want to find a basketball book,
you will. If you're in this book saying I want
to meditate on grief or place or home, you will.
(15:59):
If you are someone who wants to see a complicated
relationship with lineage and parentage reflected back to you, you will.
So in that way.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I you know, you tell the story of seeing your
dad shoot a basketball once one time, and this book
reminded me of how much I love basketball, and also
how much I watched with my dad, and I wonder
it's not often described this way.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Is basketball a family sport?
Speaker 8 (16:26):
It feels like at least a family sport from the
standpoint of witness. I grew up in a house of
Knicks fans largely, and I remember my mother loving Charles
Smith and you know, the dislike for the Bulls, so
you know, it was strange for me. I can't love
Michael Jordan because you know so in some ways basketball
is in a family that loves basketball, it gets passed down.
(16:47):
Like so many other things. You learn to love the
game through the people you witness loving the game, and
that I think is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
My dad loved the floater, yeah, the best, and you
describe it in here, you know, and I I just
have do you mind.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
If I read some your words to you? Really? Isn't
that strange? In honor? But strange? Yeah, it's gotta be weird.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
The float or the most romantic shot in the game,
when done right, it's almost obsessed with drama. Almost pausing
in the air to make sure you get its good
side before it begins to twirl downward. I thought of
my dad when I read that.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Really you did that.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
You read that beautiful man. I'll tell you, I'm in
the second half of my book tour. You should take
over from that.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I can take over.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But it's just one example of the things you described
so well. You said you're a Knicks fan, so you're
familiar with there's always next year. But the significance, the
significance of there's always this year.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
It presents a real urgency. I mean, so much of
this book is also about the passage of time, in
making peace with the passage of time, which I think
a lot of people. I turned forty last year. I
think a lot of people as the age think first
about what is being taken from them instead of thinking
about the mini versions of themselves there are to come.
And to present a kind of urgency and an affection
(18:04):
around the time you have and put it in the
immediate moment. For me to structure a book around that
was a real generosity to myself.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, yeah, and the book, you know it's.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And you know he's not just saying that it's actually
divided into quarters and timeouts, and there's clocks as a countdown,
you know, And is that to give me the reader
a sense of like time is limited, enjoy this page.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
I mean, in some ways, to put a literal stop clock,
litteral countdown clock in a book is to say you
the reader and me the writer, because so much of
the process of the book was to make us feel
like we are in this together and understanding what time is,
how much we have left, how much we don't have left.
But some of the language I was attempting was to
slow you down and say, for example, we are all
(18:54):
certainly going to die, but we are not dead yet.
And so since we are not dead yet, have you
ever considered the sunset? And you haven't really considered the sunset?
Because there are infinite sunsets on infinite days as long
as you're alive, And so that urges people to slow
down a bit.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I was in Cleveland this past weekend reading both the
book and.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And the audio.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, So I'm I'm walking around Cleveland and you're
writing about Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yes, a lot a lot of clevel here.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And I had forgotten how good Lebron James is a
basketball Can you believe in it?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
For?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Can you believe that?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I know, I know why, I'm too busy watching the
tennis channel. But you know there's a lot of Lebron James.
But why why is he an important backdrop for you
to tell a story of your life?
Speaker 8 (19:38):
For two reasons. One, I got very interested in this
idea of Lebron James as an immortal figure, someone who
we believe will play forever, because it does seem right
now as though he might play forever. But of course
we also know immortality is a lie. You know, time
is undefeated. As they say, time will get the best
of us eventually. However, in a moment where it feels
like I could focus in on the idea of immortality,
(20:01):
the idea of living forever, yep, it was interesting to me.
But also because for much of my life, Lebron James
did seem like a far away star in the background
of my living. You know, I'd write about being homeless
and walking through the streets of downtown Columbus and hearing
a Cavs game on the background in bars that I
could not get into, And so in a very real,
literal way, Lebron James is in the background of my
(20:21):
living in ways I could not access, and in any
book that analyzed my living and my survival, it felt
as though I should render it, effectively, render what was
in the background that helped me get to the forefront.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well, and that leads to my next question, which is home.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yes, you know, I believe you moved back to Columbus
six or seven years ago. You talked about everyone getting
something from this here I am. I feel like we
might have had different childhoods. Ok and man, your description
of going back home to Ohio reminds me of when
I go home to Michigan. Of did I have to
leave Michigan to be successful in comedy? Do we have
(20:56):
to leave? What is ascension? All of this was hitting
me in the face. What is home to you and
you need to leave it?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
I don't think I need. I mean, one, it's good
to talk to another Midwestern Yeah, for sure, I will
say for me, I never felt the need to leave home.
I think this book is also trying to realign a
consideration of what making it is. Ascension not necessarily is
something that sends you upward, but anything that moves you
from the place you were to the place you're going,
and sometimes that place geographically is the same, but is
(21:25):
emotionally different. It's mentally different all of these things. And
for me, if you have a place you love and
a place where you can do your work, and a
place where your name will be cemented for years after
you are gone, for anything you have done, you've made it.
Even if what you know, my mother passed away when
I was thirteen. When my mother passed away, there were
(21:46):
grocery workers and postal workers who mourned her passing because
of how kind and generous she was to the people
in her orbit. And therefore her kindness is a part
of that legacy. And so my mother made it. Love,
So you know your legacy is right.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I need help. I need your help.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You wrote the nostalgia is a relentless hustler.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Truly, please educate me.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I know you did it in here, but I needed
help with. You need help with Okay.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
So there's a useful way to say. If we sit
back and talk about the good old days of our
Midwestern youth, that's a lot of fun, and we could
do that, but it actually doesn't do anything to inform
the way we can live thoughtfully and generously. Now nostalgia
for nostalgia's sake. It's great, But there's a difference between, say,
a porch conversation and a page conversation. A page conversation
(22:33):
has to use nostalgia as a way to move your
actual present life forward, I think, which I'm not. You know,
porch conversation is fine and fun, but also you know,
I'm not that interested. We're all getting older in the
way that, for example, I play basketball now is different.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, you know, I can't play.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
The way I did when I was twenty or even thirty.
And it doesn't really serve me to sit back and say, man,
in the good ol days, I could run up and
down the court and to do all this other stuff.
But it serves me more to say I cannot do
that anymore, but I can still do this other series
of things that align with what I know about the
game and what I love about the game, and what
my body is still capable of. And when I do
those things, I'm unstoppable for a little while.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I love that, Honey, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
There's always this year is available now, hanif I do right.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Cai, We're gonna take a quick break up for this,
Thank you, madam beautiful book.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
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Speaker 4 (23:43):
Abe Lincoln had just been re elected in eighteen sixty four.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
How old is this that judge was nominated by Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
A law that was.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
First put on its books in state books when Abraham
Lincoln was living in the building behind.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Me, before Arizona was estate, and before Abraham Lincoln the
four women who was reelected.
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