June 18, 2025 • 49 mins
Jordan Klepper dives into Trump’s Irish exit from Canada’s G7 Summit to explore a “better than a ceasefire” between Israel and Iran, and how Trump’s threats against Iran’s ayatollah started an intra-MAGA beef with Tucker Carlson. Plus, Michael Kosta finds a delicious way to capitalize on the situation in Iran.
Was Trump's parade a military celebration or a show of authoritarian power? Jordan Klepper hit the streets of Washington, D.C., to talk to MAGA during Trump's $45 million military parade. Klepper asks folks how they feel about DOGE cuts, the L.A. protests, and whether they showed up to celebrate the military or the president's birthday.
Best-selling co-authors Bill Clinton and James Patterson sit down with Jordan Klepper for a conversation about their new political thriller, “The First Gentleman,” their dynamic as creative collaborators, and how, after three books, they’ve learned that it’s better to humanize than demonize, both in fiction and politics. The former president offers his take on President Trump’s second-term policies, from the economy to deportations to involvement in the Middle East. Clinton and Patterson also emphasize the importance of participation and voting.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central is America's
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is the Daily Show.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
With your host, Jordan Clopper.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
What's the mat, Jordan Copper? We got so much to
talk about.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Tonight Trump makes an Irish exit from Canada. I had
to DC to crash the most tremendous birthday bash in
American history. And the author James Patterson will be here
along with his co author.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Bill Clinton tonight.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Okay, so let's get in a headline now. It is
supposed to be study Abroad week for Trump, and things
started out oh so well. He arrived at the G
seven confidently, strolling out of the woods like a contestant
on the Golden Bachelorettes or a shaved sasquatch. You know,
(01:14):
you see what you want to see.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
This is an important G seven for Trump because he
had to prove that he had the discipline and wherewithal
to fix the global economy after he duped the global economy.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
And you know what, he almost nailed it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We all know the great Prime Minister of the UK
and we just signed a document. This is thought about.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
He went very important Trump living with you.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Don't worry. Don't worry. There's a five second rule with
trade agreements. Trump's still totally good to eat those documents.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
And I know some of you haters are going to
make fun of him. But Trump didn't drop the papers
by accident. It was a four d chess move to
check out the British Prime ministers, but dunk dunk. But
before Trump could sign and or drop any other trade deals,
he decided to peace out.
Speaker 8 (02:12):
Overnight, President Trump with an abrupt about face, announcing he's
cutting short his trip to the G seven summit in Canada,
racing back to the White House instead.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I have to be back, very important to that. I
want to just thank you our great os. But you
probably see what I see and I have to be back.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
We all know what this is.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Right, You're at an event, you have to rush home
because something came up.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Look, I get it.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
None of us like to poop in an unfamiliar place. Sometimes,
when you have a big matchup coming up, you just
need that home field advantage. I understand, Donald, But of course,
the real reason Donald Trump rushed home to Washington was
to deal with the war between Israel and Iran and
the big question was was he rushing home to help
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negotiate an end to the war or to bring America
into the war. It's the most important decision a nation
can make, and one that we've whiffed on for the
last like ten, twenty thirty forty.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
It doesn't matter. The point is.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
The point is to be really reassuring, to know that
the president has a clear and consistent plan. So, mister President,
are you looking for war or ceasefire?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We're not looking for a ceasfire. I didn't say I
was looking for a ceas fight.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Oh shit, Okay, he's not looking for a ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
We're looking at it. Better than scip.
Speaker 9 (03:42):
Oh greatah, better than a ceasefire.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Ceasefire. Plus, that's great. I hate watching ads. That's wonderful.
This is good news. I'm glad you're going to negotiate
with Iran.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Why I'm not too much in a boots to negotiating.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Okay, all right, Okay, the President's not vibing on negotiations, then,
so it's war, because who would negotiate besides you, mister president.
Speaker 8 (04:08):
He's considering sending the vice president to negotiate with the Iranians.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
You know, I think This is fantastic. Jd.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Vance is a great choice to negotiate. The Iranians will
agree to anything to get him the out of that,
you know what.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And it's great for.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Peace because if Trump is negotiating, it sounds like we're
not gonna flatten Tehran anytime soon.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
The President warned everyone in Iran's capital city to flee,
posting everyone should immediately evacuate t Hran with no additional explanation.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
You know what, I can use some additional explanation. It's
a president. I am more confused than ever.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Please just just sum up your explanation in one clean tweet.
Speaker 10 (04:55):
President Trump has just posted new comments directed at Iran.
We know exactly where the so called Supreme Leader is hiding.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
He is an.
Speaker 10 (05:03):
Easy target, but is safe there. We are not going
to take him out, and then in parentheses kill at
least not for now.
Speaker 11 (05:12):
Okay, so we know where the Ayatola is but he's safe.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
We could kill him, but we won't for now. Maybe
later we'll find out next on the Golden Bachelorette. Okay,
how does one tweet and have six different positions? I mean, clearly,
we're not going to get any clarity from listening to
President Trump, maybe other people in his inner circle can
shed some light on America's position. Tucker Carlson, huge supporter
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of the president, What do you think of the war?
Speaker 9 (05:48):
I just don't want my country to be further weakened
or destroyed by another one of these wars. And boy,
if you can't connect the dots after twenty five years,
you're either too dumb to peat in the conversation or
you're just a liar who doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Wow, I mean, Tucker, he hasn't been this distraught since
the WNBA got popular. Okay, mister President, I hope you
understand what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Let him go get a television network.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And say it so that people listen.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Oh snap, Trump's like, go on TV and say it,
you bitch.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
You can't because you got kicked off Fox News for
lying about me winning the twenty twenty election, which.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I appreciate, you bitch.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
So yes, Trump is not on the same page as Tucker,
and he seems to be at.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Odds with some of the other top MAGA minds as well.
Speaker 12 (06:44):
The American people have been brainwashed into believing that America
has to engage in these foreign wars in order for
us to survive, and it's absolutely not true.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Oh my god, I believe I'm a green with Marjorie
Taylor Green.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I'm at war with myself and this can't be right.
Keep playing the clip.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I'm sure I'll find something to disagree with her on.
Speaker 12 (07:11):
They don't want to hear about politics. They want to
be able to afford food, and they want to be
able to afford gas, and they just want to have
fun for once in their life. They want to have fun.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yes, I still.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Agree with her, for once in their lives. Americans just
want to have fun.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
I don't want a war.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I want to dance.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Although you know what, I'm pretty sure Americans do know
how to have fun regardless of international conflicts. I've never
gotten a text saying, hey, bro, territorial dispute in the
South China Sea Barbecue's canceled. So doesn't seem like Trump
is listening to the anti war wing of his party.
Maybe he'll listen to the anti war wing of his
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own administration, like Tulci Gabbert, his own Director of National Intelligence, Tulca.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Gabbert testify to March the the intelligence community.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Said Iran wasn't building a nuclear one panel care what
she said.
Speaker 13 (08:04):
I think they were very close to having that one
the community.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
This is the benefit of appointing unqualified, crazy people to
your team. You could always be like, do you know
how crazy and unqualified she is? I don't care what
she said. So Trump is beefing with the anti war
wing of his party and dismissing intelligence from his own
cabinet showing that Iran is not actually building nukes. It
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certainly seems to be leaning in a let's dual World
War three direction. Weirdly enough, the final confirmation might be pizza.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
According to an account on Acts called the Pentagon Pizza Report,
nearly all pizza establishments nearby the Pentagon have experienced a
huge surge in activity.
Speaker 14 (08:52):
Here's why. When US military personnel face a national emergency,
they work late into the night and can't leave their desks.
At eight fifty seven pm Thursday, the Pentagon Pizza Report
reported that the closest and second closest dominosed the Pentagon
had surged in traffic.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Oh my god, we're going to war.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Or everyone at the Pentagon just got divorced at the
same time. Look, I don't know how things are gonna end,
but it seems like they're trending in a bad direction.
I will say this, though, If you told me after
election Day that within four months of Trump's presidency I'd
be staring at a Domino's pizza tracker to figure out
if we're going to enter the final war of mankind,
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I'd have said that's about right.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
For more on the.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Pending war with Iran, we go live outside the Pentagon
with our own Michael Costa. Michael, Michael. I'm curious, Michael,
So what is what's the latest?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Jordan?
Speaker 15 (09:59):
This is It's a nuanced and complicated situation, and the
only solution is for America to enter a decades long
total war with the Iran.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Make no mistake, the.
Speaker 15 (10:09):
US military needs to dig in, buckle down, pick up
some mikey Kay's Meat Lover's pizzas with extra tangy sauce,
and prepare for the worst.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I'm sorry, what was that that last part you said.
Speaker 15 (10:21):
About preparing for the worst. Yes, we'll probably need a
new draft too. Millions of able bodied young men ready
to fight for America and chow down on mikey Kay's
buffalo chicken, said pre Ma Mami.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
With a free forty.
Speaker 15 (10:35):
Five ounce mountain dew code red, just like Nona used
to mil.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Do you own a pizza parlor? Are you trying to
profiteer from a war?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
No?
Speaker 15 (10:46):
No, no, I have a small investment in a pizza
place nearby that I also manage and busboy at. But
that in no way affects my impartial analysis. I've looked
at the evidence, and we have to go to war
against Iran, possibly Iraq again, definitely India. What did India
do well? They're a regional superpower, Jordan. They're a threat
to our survival right now. They're military leaders are plotting
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against us, working day and night ordering delicious takeout.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Michael. Do you have a pizza place in India?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 15 (11:17):
It's a small tendory kitchen called second to non free
Mango Lassie with every any order, just like Nona used
to make a consta. Come on, man, that's this is crazy.
I know with any order, Jordan, there is no minimum.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
No.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
No, what's crazy is you're trying to start World War
three so you can sell bad takeout.
Speaker 15 (11:37):
Bad takeout? How dare you our chutney is the talk
of New Delhi. I assume I can't figure out what
they're saying. But what's the big deal? Defense contractors can
go to our nation into endless, pointless wars for profit,
but non acosta can't.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Get a taste. Look, you're all bad. Americans don't want war.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Isn't there a way to make money off peace so
the world can live in harmony?
Speaker 15 (12:01):
International relations aren't that simple?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Jordan.
Speaker 15 (12:04):
Two nations, their total opposites, can't overcome their cultural differences,
uniting in a perfect blend of magical serenity. The only
place that that exists is in our new delicious sushi taco.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
As my nona used to say, Yeah, we get out
of here. Michael Kossa, Everyone, we come back. I find
out how Trump's birthday went.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Don't go away, Welcome back to the Daily album. Donald
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Trump finally made his military parade dreams come true last weekend.
But was it everything he wanted? I decided find out.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
This past weekend.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I went to our nation's capital to join the celebration
of the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the US
Army and the seventy ninth birthday of Donald J.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Trump.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
This was reportedly a forty five million dollar event and
there was family fun everywhere. I'm talking cornhole, howitzers, kids
with machine guns, kids with machine guns on top of jeeps,
kids with rocket launchers, and they always popular.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Killer robot dogs. Thank you for your service.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
We are here because we love America.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
We are celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Birthday of the Army, and.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It's flag day, It's the President's birthday. Today is America
super Bowl? Wouldn't that be the Super Bowl? Pretty most
excited to see tanks. They see all of our tanks.
Our Braandley's are artillery.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Tanks, helicopters, howitzers, al.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Am I seeing don JUNI you okay?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Have you ever been to an event like this?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But local, smaller like Moscow?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yang?
Speaker 16 (14:05):
No no no, no, no no, no, not like that.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Who do you think is going to do this parade better?
US or the North Koreans.
Speaker 17 (14:10):
I don't compare myself myself to anybody, because everybody in
the world.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
We love to be an American, at least for it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Looking around, I wonder was this a military celebration or
more of a make Dunny feel like a big boy
authoritarian leader party.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You know one thing about Donald Trump, he's been the
greatest leader this country's ever had.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Is that what we're throwing him this parade. It's not
his parade, it's the United States Army.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
I keep getting, computer, I keep getting I keep I
keep looking at these hats, and I'm like, there's an America.
There's a tiny mill American flag right there on the side.
Speaker 16 (14:41):
Now, I say, anniversary makes me mad listening to the
people that are saying that this is all about Donald
Trump and his birthday.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
No, it's not.
Speaker 16 (14:50):
I love Donald Trump, but technically we are here to
support our military.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Your focus today is just on the military, yes, sir,
and that's why you wore your dress blues.
Speaker 16 (15:00):
I'm not in camouflage to support the military.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I'm there to support Trump.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Because it is also his birthday.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Was there some debate about where to put the uh, Nope,
not at all.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Of course, parades come with the price tag. But if
there's one thing this administration knows, it's what's useful and
what's waste. Crumpets had to make some cuts, had to
make some really tough decisions.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
No, Doge cut back on the Department of Education. Done
well done the EPA. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, there's some tough cuts.
Cancer research. Cut it. Let's go back to all natural.
You don't need to be researching have cancer. We basically
haven't fixed anyway, Alzheimer's research.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Why not cut the Alzheimer's research? What that's We're just
cool with that. I'm cool with that. Are you excited
about all these doze cuts?
Speaker 14 (15:45):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 17 (15:46):
Because the government's fit is stealing too much of the
money and it wasted too much of Monday.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I gonna text dollars.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Oh my god, government waste so much money. Yes, oh
my god. It's it's insane to spend money.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Just foolish this We enjoy the forty five million dollars
parade at all the time.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, that's a good use of your taks dot.
Speaker 17 (16:02):
I think it's important for America to flex their muscles
so people people know that America is generous, America is nice.
America guys polite for America can really become badass.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Now, just brainstorming here. If we want to show the
world that we're generous and nice, wouldn't it help to
do like generous and nice things for the world.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
We are already doing it.
Speaker 17 (16:20):
Usaid more generous and nice that we let people to
take advantage.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Of walls for left and right. We're so we're showing
them that we're kind by taking away so they see
how kind we are. Absolutely, absolutely, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Tanks are fun and our military men and women should
be a hundred. But it was hard to celebrate this
public show of force when the President put the military
on the streets of LA to confront other Americans. How
do you think we're going to need our military? What's
the biggest threat, to.
Speaker 16 (16:46):
Be honest with you, actually a global change right now.
And if America doesn't want to support America, America won't
be America very long.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Get on, get on board.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
You're in America right Which one of these tanks you
think we should send a Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I think we're just at all of them. Which weapon
should we send over to Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Them clowns.
Speaker 17 (17:08):
I always said, shrump need to just give him some
some stuff to make him go to sleep and then
just handcuff him afterwards.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Okay, rufie, And is that a pete Hegseth plan.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I don't know, but that's my plan Trump, If you're listening, that's.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
What you do. You should roofy the Democrats put them
all to sleep with some sleep and stuff, and then
and then lock them up.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
But like you said, today isn't about that. It's about America.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But at the end of the day, Trump's parade was
kind of a dune.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
It didn't have the cold, intimidating scope of other authoritarian displays.
All we had was guys holding drones like pizzas and
killer robot dogs who just flooded treats. I got a
let's sativa gummy in here somewhere.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
See you at Trump's eighty. We come back. Bill Clinton
and James Patters will be joining me on the show.
Don't Go Away. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
My guests tonight are New York Times bestselling authors of
the new political thriller, The First Gentleman. Please welcome former
President Bill Clinton and James Patterson.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
What a night crowd love.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Not a bad bunch of folks, Yes, very kind.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
They're very kind folks. Gentlemen, you wrote a white House thriller.
I gotta say, politics is so boring. Thank you, Thank
you for trying to spice it up.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, right now, it doesn't take a lot, right.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Don't take a lot.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Well, this is a story about the first gentleman who
is accused of murder President Clinton. I'm wondering, what's it
like to live inside the headspace of the first gentleman.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I don't know. I tried. It's the only job I
ever wanted in politics that I didn't get.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
And he's got all the good lines.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
You're the writer.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
You got to know this writer.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What let me say?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
It's not easy, sure, I mean if.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But our guy is sort of a perfect picture of
the dilemma because he was He went to school with
the president, then they later met in California and fell
in love and got merrit. But he was a big jock.
He was the first IVY leader drafted in the first
(20:20):
round in the NFL. And he's he's he's a complicated figure.
He's not hung up about his wife being the president.
He's proud of him.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, you been that as good as our guy? You know,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
That you would have you would have been, Yes, I know,
Hillary would.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Was the best qualified person in my life. I mean,
he said, but what we presented that's accurate is he
did want something to do. That was his own thing,
and he thought he could revive President Kennedy's physical fitness counsel.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And also maybe murdering someone.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah, you're burying the lead.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well, the murder thing comes up, but we're talking about
right now.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Oh, you always want to talk about the murder thing, James.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, Well to peace, that's the look.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
But you want to talk about you're inside the mind
of the character here.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. But my point is the White House staff doesn't
know about the murder thing at the beginning. They don't
always under any kind of cloud. And immediately there are
people who don't want him to do that. So that's
that's a very typical thing in white houses, all white houses.
(21:44):
There are people who think that if anybody else gets
any credit for anything, it will diminish the president. And uh,
I never saw it that way when I was president,
when I was a governor before, I figured if I
pointed somebody to an important job and I did a
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good job, that helped me not hurt me. And I
can never figure out.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But it's kind of a d I want to Washington,
and it's not confound to one party, that one thing.
It's so you see that in our book, you can figure.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I have to agree with Marthie Tayler Green on this.
One thing.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Surprising about the love of the fun part of it
is it is a fun ready you do need a
little break, Honestly, I think, well, you need a break right.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
If you want to take a step away from all
the chaos of the news cycle, read a story about
a potential homicide and relax.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
A little bit, exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
I guess it's curious even hearing you guys talk about this, like,
I'm curious about where the genesis for some of these
ideas are. Clearly, President Clinton, you come to this book
with some ideas about what it feels like to be
in the White House, some of the push and pull
the dynamics that exists within the politics at that level.
And James, you come into this, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It is it murder first? Is it story first? Is
it plot first?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's always character first. It's always character but interesting with
this book.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
And we agreed about halfway through it wasn't working really
and this has never happened with us before. And he
called up and he said, I don't like any of
the characters, and I said, I agree. I don't the other. Yeah,
so we had to really go back and work on
the character. Agree, it's all character for me.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
It's all character.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Alice Cross, it's all character, you know. He we all
have to deal with our balancing film, not all of us,
but family and then work. That's what Alice has to do.
He says, detective, and you know it's obviously over the
top detective work. Then he's got to go home and
and that's the series it's on on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He's balancing those two things.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Do you have do you struggle with the fact of
like writing empathetic characters in the White House? Looking at
the White House now, wondering are there any empathetic characters
in the White House?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Like how we always agree on trying to do an outline,
and then sometimes we try and then sometimes the plot
takes us away. This is the third book we've done together,
and so far we agree on the outline. Then he
(24:27):
gives me a list of twenty questions or more to
answer to make sure the there were being authentic.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I mean that's a key thing.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I mean I just make up stuff in my regular books,
but with this I have to pass attested to well.
That would never happen, or here's how it would happen.
Here's what the ticket service would do.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
If you pop quiz a discipline, right, and.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Then he'll and he'll be fixing stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Okay, Like what parts that you've done three books?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Now what your view of the presidency before you started
writing these films?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Like what did you get wrong? Initially?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Everything? Now?
Speaker 7 (25:01):
You know the thing that and we tried to before
about it just humanizing. I mean, unfortunately we've gotten into
a habit of demonizing everybody.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And I know the show doesn't and it's a lot
of fun and it's you know, but ideally.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Cool cool cool, right about murder.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Man, Yeah, but there's only one there may or may
not be one murderer in this in this book, but
everybody else we need needed to make him human. And
the thing let me give a quick thing on this
past summer, the President called the house and my wife
Sue was on and he said, let me show you this.
Put it on picture phone and there he was with
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his grandkids and he's in a tiger suit and only
his face is showing human being. That we need to
do more of that. I think, Yeah, human being, human being.
I don't know how we would do it with certain characters,
but you know, because I don't know who that would be.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Humanizes the president suddenly saying that he's wearing a tiger stand.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
I think that makes me worry about that. President.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, now are you okay?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
President?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I kind of like with wardrobe at home.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
My grandkids thought it was great.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
If you're doing it with If you don't know what
the four year old, it's okay you're doing with your girlfriend.
It's a little weird.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Him.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
No judgment, man, no judgment A good point.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Good point.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Do you know when this book is going to be
banned by the Trump administration?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I was actually trying to think if there are some
reason they could think of the ban.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
It they don't need.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
It wouldn't be that, it wouldn't be the White House.
But in certain counties they may all of a sudden,
they don't need a reason.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
They just go in.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
One person goes in, I don't like the book, Okay,
we'll ban it. So'll probably be be banned in a
couple of counties.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't like it. It's a bad deal. When Maya Angelo,
who read the inaugural poem at my first inauguration, wrote
it and read it and was a great human being.
The first thing the White House did was to ban
her book. I know why The Cage Bird sings at
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the Naval Academy Library and the Military Academy Library at
West Point, and I can't figure out why. It's a
magnificent book about a little girl who's abandoned by her
parents and lives with her grandparents. So she's three or
four years old and her brother. Then she has to
go somewhere else and while she's a child, she loses
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the ability to speak for a couple of years because
she was abused, and then she blooms. I couldn't figure
out why that was a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So many mysteries.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, it's do you think it's the blooming portion of it?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
All?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Anything to do with you see, an empathy for a small,
young black child perhaps had a little something to do
with it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And she turned out to be about six feet tall
and no longer small.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
You know, do you think that was height? Height was
the issue?
Speaker 15 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Trump, Trump is all the books with characters over five.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
To let him get out of here.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
She was a very large woman with a very deep
voice and a massive talent and a great heart, and
so I took a very dim view of that. We
were friends. I spoke at her funeral. I didn't like it.
I don't like book banning, and I wasn't ever for
banning books that were full of things that they said
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about me that weren't true. It never occurred to me
that I should stop you from reading them.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah, you know you're gonna have some regrets looking back
on what you could have done. I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Yeah, it's interesting in this book. Another portion of this
book is that the president is going out for a
grand bargain, which is a big, audacious bargain. I'm curious
where that came in in the writing process, and in
some ways would this have been Clinton three point zero
is sort of an agenda that you could see for
America today. And follow up, why wasn't invading Greenland a
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part of that?
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Well, we took that part out. We didn't think we
didn't think it was credible. I wrote it in and
he took it.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Out that this is how it starts, this is how
it begins.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Does have a lot of rareers and minerals that we
might need someday. Denmark is the Nito allies of ours
instead of stealing it from we audience make a deal
and have a contract like normal people, do, you know?
But this grand bargain is we got problems of our
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own making, and part of them the massive that we have,
which is about it's over one hundred percent of our
annual income.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
A lot of it was unavoidable because of the We
had the financial crash in two thousand and eight and
then the COVID problem only twelve years later. So when
interest rates go down below inflation and stay there, if
you raise taxes.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Or you.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Do other things to tighten the economy, you'll just make
it worse. So in those narrow instances, we had to
spend more money than we were taking in to get
any kind of economic activity. But you can't do it forever,
and so we need to stop that now. And therefore
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I think this latest budge it's sent to Congress by
the administration was a mistake because it's going to make
it worse. It's like saying, Okay, the economy is doing
fine now. We have relatively low unemployment, we have relatively
low inflation, and it's getting better, and let's make it
worse now and have a huge increase in it. I
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don't think it makes sense, and I think we'll regret it.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I mean, I think some of the critique right now
is that Republicans seem to be the party that wants
to be fiscally responsible when they get in power, and
they don't act on that.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Do you believe it's insincere?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, it's all rhetoric. We double the debt when President
Reagan was in office. We've been a country for a
long time by nineteen eighty, and we doubled the debt
in eight years, and then we increase it by another
fifty percent under President Bush, and he tried to do
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something about it. He signed a budget passed by the
Congres under the leadership of the committee chair of Leon Panetta,
who later became my chief staff and President Obama CIA chief.
Then after President the second President Bush got elected, the
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first thing he did was to pass a big tax
cut again. And he had a little bit of a
recession to deal with six months or something. So if
he had said let's do this for a year so
I can avoid a recession or minimize it, I would
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have supported it. But he wanted to make it permanent.
And that's there. It's almost theology with them there's no
such thing as a bad tax cut unless it helps
poor people.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
But they're in the book.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
There is there is, there is a solution that's that's
proposed by the president and what we do, which is
appropriate for a suspension. We kind of build up suspense
about what is it until the very end of the book,
which is appropriate I think in this kind of yea,
I figured.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Look, it's a book. I mean, it's a mystery, so
we couldn't write a thirty page but I tried to
give an outline with that.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
The initial pitch of like and the last thirty pages
is sort of an outline for the plan for economic
stability America was like, let's.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Keep it to two, but not to but yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I tried to show that you couldn't make a difference,
you could make a change, and we went through these
two deep holes. So I don't expect anybody to be
able to solve this in four years. I didn't expect
President Trump to be able to but you you got
to follow the first rule. First, if you're in a hole,
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stop digging. I was hoping there would be a balanced
program to get us out, and that's what all this
doge was sold at but if you look at everything
that mister Musk was working on before he went back
(34:17):
to selling Tesla's all of it together is the tiny
slice of our budget. Most of our budget goes to healthcare,
Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, veterans, health defense, and the slice
(34:38):
that he's got is not very big. You can't possibly
solve a problem this big with a budget that's this,
and it's our future budget. If you ask yourself, why
is America leading the world now, it's because of our
leading technology and in biomedical search, especially at lots of
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other areas. So that's what they want to cut. It's
a mistake, it's you, don't it. Just like I love
watching this the NBA Finals. These teams have been great, amazing.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Are you Okac guy?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Pacers fan? Nick's initially right?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I like them both.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Still. The politician, I.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Was with Oklahoma City when it was bombed, and I've
been with them ever since because of what they did,
with what they suffered. It's an unrecognizable place today because
they work together and they had an ethic, as they said,
of kindness and hard work, and it's worked. But I
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was not prepared for her good Indiana, was I mean there,
it's fun watching them. So you know, I went in
with for Oklahoma City and I haven't stopped liking them.
But it's amazing the courage that Indiana has showed every time,
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and they're playing like this.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
If only are politics can get back to the legitimacy
of NBA basketball, where.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
We can love one thing but understand what the other
team brings to it.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
All these people respect each other. You can look at
them and you don't see these Oklahoma City guys jumping
up and down. Because Harris Halberton doesn't make a lot
of points because he tore off his right leg and
what he knew came back in the second half. He
didn't score a bunch of points, but he ran the
offense and they did great in the second half.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
So I mean, you know, it's we need to bring
respect back to perhaps the New York Knicks as well, right,
so they.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
May be feeling a few of those pieces, well.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Great this year, it great, we.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Could celebrate that, right.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Speaking of some some uh this last weekend, there was
a little bit of money spent.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
In Washington, d c.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
At a couple of dollars a couple I.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Think forty five million last I heard at this big
birthday celebration slash army parade. I was curious if you
guys saw that, or President Clinton, you thought about throwing.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
All the y're watching the you know, when you were
interviewing people, people are going, oh, we're cutting education, great. Oh,
we're cutting a cancer research great. What are people nuts?
We're cutting cancer research?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Great?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Interview like that?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Ye yeah, yeah, that's how you have to go back natural.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
We don't need cancer this.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Yeah, it's one of the things that one of the
things I noticed when I was there, there's been a lot.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
Of that's what I should do with voting. You shouldn't
be able to vote. If you're going to say stuff
like that, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
You can't vote. I'm sorry you can't go. Yeah, both
against cancer research and no voting.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
That's the line, right, it's eighteen and if you're against
cancer research, maybe now's not the one.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
For a few other things.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Well, I think the Democrats need to as themselves. How
come we can't beat that? I think about now the
Supreme Court is gonna have to step in this time.
It seems like because they seem to say last year
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in two decisions, well yeah, the president might commit a crime,
but as long as he thinks it's the right thing
to do, and by definition can't be criminal. Who ever
heard of that?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
You see what happened this weekend as well with the
no Kings protests.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Five million people, five people to show up. I think
there's definitely an energy there.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
When I talk to a lot of people who are progressed,
I think they're frustrated, they're angry, many are scared. They
don't know what the best use of their.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Energy is or where to put that.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
I think there's no Kings showing was one way of
like a show of force. I think when you talk
about the flaws the Democrats unable to put up a
defense against people who are anti cancer, like where should
that energy?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Where should that go?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
First of all, I think I think Biden had a
successful four years. He did a good job, I think,
but we didn't have enough of a campaign on the
back end. And I think it's a little unfair to
say it's Kambel Harris's fault because she didn't ask for
the circumstances which we're visiting.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Art.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
So now we've got what they have to do with
the people in Washington is they do need to show
what's wrong with this budget and do their best to
beat it or get changes in it. Keep going. But
it's not an election yet, and I think we need
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other people to come up with ideas. That's why we
wrote the book, though he did partly just to say
you can be a Republican or Democrat and be for
this this that makes common sense. And we've gotten too
far away from that. We're so interested in demeaning and
debasing and name calling. And President Trust's been richly rewarded
(40:29):
for that, for being able to just divide and distract people.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
You know, I learned during the early on in terms
of life lessons, that skepticism is absolutely healthy and terrific
and cynicism is poison.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Yeah, but what do you say to the young person
who sees what's happening in Los Angeles and sees people
standing up upset about their neighbors being deported and suddenly
the National Guard.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
Being brought in protests and vote protesting to do things though,
don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Look like you know a lot of the lawyers talk
to me about the Supreme Court decisions which seem to
say that once your president, you can you can't break
the law. You can just do whatever you think is right,
and if it's against the law, you just say you
thought it was the right thing you do. And I
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thought there's an easy way to fix it. They said,
what do you mean. The Supreme Court's sixty three for them,
maybe five four. And I always say, if you elect
a Democrat president, they will have an epiphany and all
of a sudden they will rediscover the separation of powers
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and the things that and constitutional rights and all this stuff.
It'll change again. We look, we are the longest consistently
lasting democracy and history. We're not the oldest country in history,
but we are the oldest democracy. And Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican, said,
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after he went through that mess with Joe McCarthy, he
was very worried about whether we would have the mental
discipline to sustain our democracy. And all this happened, and
today it may look so and ai scarce people. Everybody's
(42:31):
scared of something, But I'm just telling you, we're about
to celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth birthday. And so far,
everybody that's bet against his country's lost money. So far
we have saved it. But citizens can't sit around and whin.
They got to get off the bench and play the game.
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And if you don't like who's being elected and you
don't like what they're doing, you got to get out
there and fight for it. And one of the things
that we try to do in this book, it's the
mix people see that we try to make them see
democracy as.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
And And also a big thing about this book are
the two journalists and who really are trying to find
out the truth? And I think there are a lot
of good journalists who do that, and we're forgetting about
that and we go people are going online for journalism
that's written by fiction writers just making stuff up.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
That not a lot of satirical comedians in this book,
I notice. Yeah, it's surprising you didn't have more heroic
satirical comedians.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
That's the next book.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
That could be the next book before I let you
guys go, I like this. That's gonna sell. That'll definitely sell.
Can I maybe get in on some of the royalties
writing a book like that with you next week?
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yes, we won't do that one.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Before I let you guys go, I do want.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
I want to get your thoughts on what's happening in
the news today. I think we covered this in the
first tact talking about Iran. Uh, you've sat at the table,
you've tried to negotiate peace in the Middle East, and
we have Donald Trump talking about whether he's somebody who's
going to summon that bring that force. There's a lot
of questions as what the next steps are going to be.
I think as somebody who sits and watches that, who's
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been in similar positions, like what.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Do you hope for? What advice do you have?
Speaker 1 (44:27):
First of all, they're not talking about negotiating peace in
the Middle East because of the The Israelis have no
intention of under a president primer so Nan Yahoo giving
a pala Citian the state. And now they're too divided
(44:47):
in a crush to organize themselves to achieve it. So
and President Trump apparently agrees with that that they shouldn't
have a state. But you don't want a disaster either.
And mister Natniel, who has long wanted to fight Iran
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because that way he can stay in office forever and ever,
and he's been there most of the last twenty years.
But I think we should be trying to diffuse it,
and I hope President Trump will do that. He I
hope anybody there will do that. We've got to stop.
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We've got to convince our friends in the Middle East
that we'll stand with them and try to protect them.
But choosing undeclared wars in which the primary victims are
civilians who are not politically involved one with the other,
just want to live decent lives is not a very
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good solution. Do I think that we have to try
to stop Iran from having a nuclear work? When I do.
I tried at that and we had some success. But
we don't have to have all this outright constant killing
of civilians who can't defend themselves and they just want
a chance to live.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Well said.
Speaker 6 (46:25):
As successful authors with the book number two on the
New York Times Bestsellers.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Wasn't my first wish, but it was my second wish.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
It's still a very good wish.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
I'm curious, as authors, can you tell me, do you
guys know how the American story will end?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's not going to end, not in our lifetime.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
They're all about sequels.
Speaker 7 (46:43):
Huh yeah, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
The people in this audience, you think about this. If
everybody in this country who's worried about it, we'd just
start talking to their neighbors and generating interest. These five
million people at the No King's rallies, they're a pretty
good Canarrea of the Colone.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
I suspect this summer is going to be interesting. I
think there'll be a lot of people on the streets
trying to express there.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Keep fighting, you've got to. But I'm telling you, President Trump,
whatever you think of the previous campaigns, did win that
last election, and he has a right to govern and
try to do what he thinks is right. And those
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of us who don't agree with him have a right
to say we don't agree and here's why. And you
just need to fight that. You can win this fight
if you'll stay at it.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
The first settlement is available out Lesident's James Patterson.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
We're gonna take a quick break. We're right back after that.
Now that's a show for tonight. There it is.
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eighty nine and Operation Desert Storm in nineteen ninety one.
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Stew Oh you had to go there, didn't you, Ashley?
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Oh you did?
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Speaker 6 (00:35):
Tonight Trump makes an Irish exit from Canada. I had
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along with his co author.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
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Speaker 6 (00:49):
Okay, so let's get in a headline now. It is
supposed to be study Abroad week for Trump, and things
started out oh so well. He arrived at the G
seven confidently, strolling out of the woods like a contestant
on the Golden Bachelorettes or a shaved sasquatch. You know,
(01:14):
you see what you want to see.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
This is an important G seven for Trump because he
had to prove that he had the discipline and wherewithal
to fix the global economy after he duped the global economy.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
And you know what, he almost nailed it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We all know the great Prime Minister of the UK
and we just signed a document. This is thought about.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
He went very important Trump living with you.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Don't worry. Don't worry. There's a five second rule with
trade agreements. Trump's still totally good to eat those documents.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
And I know some of you haters are going to
make fun of him. But Trump didn't drop the papers
by accident. It was a four d chess move to
check out the British Prime ministers, but dunk dunk. But
before Trump could sign and or drop any other trade deals,
he decided to peace out.
Speaker 8 (02:12):
Overnight, President Trump with an abrupt about face, announcing he's
cutting short his trip to the G seven summit in Canada,
racing back to the White House instead.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I have to be back, very important to that. I
want to just thank you our great os. But you
probably see what I see and I have to be back.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
We all know what this is.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Right, You're at an event, you have to rush home
because something came up.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Look, I get it.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
None of us like to poop in an unfamiliar place. Sometimes,
when you have a big matchup coming up, you just
need that home field advantage. I understand, Donald, But of course,
the real reason Donald Trump rushed home to Washington was
to deal with the war between Israel and Iran and
the big question was was he rushing home to help
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negotiate an end to the war or to bring America
into the war. It's the most important decision a nation
can make, and one that we've whiffed on for the
last like ten, twenty thirty forty.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
It doesn't matter. The point is.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
The point is to be really reassuring, to know that
the president has a clear and consistent plan. So, mister President,
are you looking for war or ceasefire?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
We're not looking for a ceasfire. I didn't say I
was looking for a ceas fight.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Oh shit, Okay, he's not looking for a ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
We're looking at it. Better than scip.
Speaker 9 (03:42):
Oh greatah, better than a ceasefire.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Ceasefire. Plus, that's great. I hate watching ads. That's wonderful.
This is good news. I'm glad you're going to negotiate
with Iran.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Why I'm not too much in a boots to negotiating.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Okay, all right, Okay, the President's not vibing on negotiations, then,
so it's war, because who would negotiate besides you, mister president.
Speaker 8 (04:08):
He's considering sending the vice president to negotiate with the Iranians.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
You know, I think This is fantastic. Jd.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Vance is a great choice to negotiate. The Iranians will
agree to anything to get him the out of that,
you know what.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And it's great for.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Peace because if Trump is negotiating, it sounds like we're
not gonna flatten Tehran anytime soon.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
The President warned everyone in Iran's capital city to flee,
posting everyone should immediately evacuate t Hran with no additional explanation.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
You know what, I can use some additional explanation. It's
a president. I am more confused than ever.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Please just just sum up your explanation in one clean tweet.
Speaker 10 (04:55):
President Trump has just posted new comments directed at Iran.
We know exactly where the so called Supreme Leader is hiding.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
He is an.
Speaker 10 (05:03):
Easy target, but is safe there. We are not going
to take him out, and then in parentheses kill at
least not for now.
Speaker 11 (05:12):
Okay, so we know where the Ayatola is but he's safe.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
We could kill him, but we won't for now. Maybe
later we'll find out next on the Golden Bachelorette. Okay,
how does one tweet and have six different positions? I mean, clearly,
we're not going to get any clarity from listening to
President Trump, maybe other people in his inner circle can
shed some light on America's position. Tucker Carlson, huge supporter
(05:46):
of the president, What do you think of the war?
Speaker 9 (05:48):
I just don't want my country to be further weakened
or destroyed by another one of these wars. And boy,
if you can't connect the dots after twenty five years,
you're either too dumb to peat in the conversation or
you're just a liar who doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Wow, I mean, Tucker, he hasn't been this distraught since
the WNBA got popular. Okay, mister President, I hope you
understand what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Let him go get a television network.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And say it so that people listen.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Oh snap, Trump's like, go on TV and say it,
you bitch.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
You can't because you got kicked off Fox News for
lying about me winning the twenty twenty election, which.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I appreciate, you bitch.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
So yes, Trump is not on the same page as Tucker,
and he seems to be at.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Odds with some of the other top MAGA minds as well.
Speaker 12 (06:44):
The American people have been brainwashed into believing that America
has to engage in these foreign wars in order for
us to survive, and it's absolutely not true.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Oh my god, I believe I'm a green with Marjorie
Taylor Green.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I'm at war with myself and this can't be right.
Keep playing the clip.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I'm sure I'll find something to disagree with her on.
Speaker 12 (07:11):
They don't want to hear about politics. They want to
be able to afford food, and they want to be
able to afford gas, and they just want to have
fun for once in their life. They want to have fun.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yes, I still.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Agree with her, for once in their lives. Americans just
want to have fun.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
I don't want a war.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I want to dance.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Although you know what, I'm pretty sure Americans do know
how to have fun regardless of international conflicts. I've never
gotten a text saying, hey, bro, territorial dispute in the
South China Sea Barbecue's canceled. So doesn't seem like Trump
is listening to the anti war wing of his party.
Maybe he'll listen to the anti war wing of his
(07:53):
own administration, like Tulci Gabbert, his own Director of National Intelligence, Tulca.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Gabbert testify to March the the intelligence community.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Said Iran wasn't building a nuclear one panel care what
she said.
Speaker 13 (08:04):
I think they were very close to having that one
the community.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
This is the benefit of appointing unqualified, crazy people to
your team. You could always be like, do you know
how crazy and unqualified she is? I don't care what
she said. So Trump is beefing with the anti war
wing of his party and dismissing intelligence from his own
cabinet showing that Iran is not actually building nukes. It
(08:31):
certainly seems to be leaning in a let's dual World
War three direction. Weirdly enough, the final confirmation might be pizza.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
According to an account on Acts called the Pentagon Pizza Report,
nearly all pizza establishments nearby the Pentagon have experienced a
huge surge in activity.
Speaker 14 (08:52):
Here's why. When US military personnel face a national emergency,
they work late into the night and can't leave their desks.
At eight fifty seven pm Thursday, the Pentagon Pizza Report
reported that the closest and second closest dominosed the Pentagon
had surged in traffic.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Oh my god, we're going to war.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Or everyone at the Pentagon just got divorced at the
same time. Look, I don't know how things are gonna end,
but it seems like they're trending in a bad direction.
I will say this, though, If you told me after
election Day that within four months of Trump's presidency I'd
be staring at a Domino's pizza tracker to figure out
if we're going to enter the final war of mankind,
(09:37):
I'd have said that's about right.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
For more on the.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Pending war with Iran, we go live outside the Pentagon
with our own Michael Costa. Michael, Michael. I'm curious, Michael,
So what is what's the latest?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Jordan?
Speaker 15 (09:59):
This is It's a nuanced and complicated situation, and the
only solution is for America to enter a decades long
total war with the Iran.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Make no mistake, the.
Speaker 15 (10:09):
US military needs to dig in, buckle down, pick up
some mikey Kay's Meat Lover's pizzas with extra tangy sauce,
and prepare for the worst.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I'm sorry, what was that that last part you said.
Speaker 15 (10:21):
About preparing for the worst. Yes, we'll probably need a
new draft too. Millions of able bodied young men ready
to fight for America and chow down on mikey Kay's
buffalo chicken, said pre Ma Mami.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
With a free forty.
Speaker 15 (10:35):
Five ounce mountain dew code red, just like Nona used
to mil.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Do you own a pizza parlor? Are you trying to
profiteer from a war?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
No?
Speaker 15 (10:46):
No, no, I have a small investment in a pizza
place nearby that I also manage and busboy at. But
that in no way affects my impartial analysis. I've looked
at the evidence, and we have to go to war
against Iran, possibly Iraq again, definitely India. What did India
do well? They're a regional superpower, Jordan. They're a threat
to our survival right now. They're military leaders are plotting
(11:09):
against us, working day and night ordering delicious takeout.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Michael. Do you have a pizza place in India?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 15 (11:17):
It's a small tendory kitchen called second to non free
Mango Lassie with every any order, just like Nona used
to make a consta. Come on, man, that's this is crazy.
I know with any order, Jordan, there is no minimum.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
No.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
No, what's crazy is you're trying to start World War
three so you can sell bad takeout.
Speaker 15 (11:37):
Bad takeout? How dare you our chutney is the talk
of New Delhi. I assume I can't figure out what
they're saying. But what's the big deal? Defense contractors can
go to our nation into endless, pointless wars for profit,
but non acosta can't.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Get a taste. Look, you're all bad. Americans don't want war.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Isn't there a way to make money off peace so
the world can live in harmony?
Speaker 15 (12:01):
International relations aren't that simple?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Jordan.
Speaker 15 (12:04):
Two nations, their total opposites, can't overcome their cultural differences,
uniting in a perfect blend of magical serenity. The only
place that that exists is in our new delicious sushi taco.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
As my nona used to say, Yeah, we get out
of here. Michael Kossa, Everyone, we come back. I find
out how Trump's birthday went.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Don't go away, Welcome back to the Daily album. Donald
(12:53):
Trump finally made his military parade dreams come true last weekend.
But was it everything he wanted? I decided find out.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
This past weekend.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I went to our nation's capital to join the celebration
of the two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the US
Army and the seventy ninth birthday of Donald J.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Trump.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
This was reportedly a forty five million dollar event and
there was family fun everywhere. I'm talking cornhole, howitzers, kids
with machine guns, kids with machine guns on top of jeeps,
kids with rocket launchers, and they always popular.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Killer robot dogs. Thank you for your service.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
We are here because we love America.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
We are celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Birthday of the Army, and.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It's flag day, It's the President's birthday. Today is America
super Bowl? Wouldn't that be the Super Bowl? Pretty most
excited to see tanks. They see all of our tanks.
Our Braandley's are artillery.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Tanks, helicopters, howitzers, al.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Am I seeing don JUNI you okay?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Have you ever been to an event like this?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But local, smaller like Moscow?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yang?
Speaker 16 (14:05):
No no no, no, no no, no, not like that.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Who do you think is going to do this parade better?
US or the North Koreans.
Speaker 17 (14:10):
I don't compare myself myself to anybody, because everybody in
the world.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
We love to be an American, at least for it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Looking around, I wonder was this a military celebration or
more of a make Dunny feel like a big boy
authoritarian leader party.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You know one thing about Donald Trump, he's been the
greatest leader this country's ever had.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Is that what we're throwing him this parade. It's not
his parade, it's the United States Army.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
I keep getting, computer, I keep getting I keep I
keep looking at these hats, and I'm like, there's an America.
There's a tiny mill American flag right there on the side.
Speaker 16 (14:41):
Now, I say, anniversary makes me mad listening to the
people that are saying that this is all about Donald
Trump and his birthday.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
No, it's not.
Speaker 16 (14:50):
I love Donald Trump, but technically we are here to
support our military.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Your focus today is just on the military, yes, sir,
and that's why you wore your dress blues.
Speaker 16 (15:00):
I'm not in camouflage to support the military.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I'm there to support Trump.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Because it is also his birthday.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Was there some debate about where to put the uh, Nope,
not at all.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Of course, parades come with the price tag. But if
there's one thing this administration knows, it's what's useful and
what's waste. Crumpets had to make some cuts, had to
make some really tough decisions.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
No, Doge cut back on the Department of Education. Done
well done the EPA. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, there's some tough cuts.
Cancer research. Cut it. Let's go back to all natural.
You don't need to be researching have cancer. We basically
haven't fixed anyway, Alzheimer's research.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Why not cut the Alzheimer's research? What that's We're just
cool with that. I'm cool with that. Are you excited
about all these doze cuts?
Speaker 14 (15:45):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 17 (15:46):
Because the government's fit is stealing too much of the
money and it wasted too much of Monday.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I gonna text dollars.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Oh my god, government waste so much money. Yes, oh
my god. It's it's insane to spend money.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Just foolish this We enjoy the forty five million dollars
parade at all the time.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Yeah, that's a good use of your taks dot.
Speaker 17 (16:02):
I think it's important for America to flex their muscles
so people people know that America is generous, America is nice.
America guys polite for America can really become badass.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Now, just brainstorming here. If we want to show the
world that we're generous and nice, wouldn't it help to
do like generous and nice things for the world.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
We are already doing it.
Speaker 17 (16:20):
Usaid more generous and nice that we let people to
take advantage.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Of walls for left and right. We're so we're showing
them that we're kind by taking away so they see
how kind we are. Absolutely, absolutely, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Tanks are fun and our military men and women should
be a hundred. But it was hard to celebrate this
public show of force when the President put the military
on the streets of LA to confront other Americans. How
do you think we're going to need our military? What's
the biggest threat, to.
Speaker 16 (16:46):
Be honest with you, actually a global change right now.
And if America doesn't want to support America, America won't
be America very long.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Get on, get on board.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
You're in America right Which one of these tanks you
think we should send a Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I think we're just at all of them. Which weapon
should we send over to Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Them clowns.
Speaker 17 (17:08):
I always said, shrump need to just give him some
some stuff to make him go to sleep and then
just handcuff him afterwards.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Okay, rufie, And is that a pete Hegseth plan.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I don't know, but that's my plan Trump, If you're listening, that's.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
What you do. You should roofy the Democrats put them
all to sleep with some sleep and stuff, and then
and then lock them up.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
But like you said, today isn't about that. It's about America.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But at the end of the day, Trump's parade was
kind of a dune.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
It didn't have the cold, intimidating scope of other authoritarian displays.
All we had was guys holding drones like pizzas and
killer robot dogs who just flooded treats. I got a
let's sativa gummy in here somewhere.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
See you at Trump's eighty. We come back. Bill Clinton
and James Patters will be joining me on the show.
Don't Go Away. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
My guests tonight are New York Times bestselling authors of
the new political thriller, The First Gentleman. Please welcome former
President Bill Clinton and James Patterson.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
What a night crowd love.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Not a bad bunch of folks, Yes, very kind.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
They're very kind folks. Gentlemen, you wrote a white House thriller.
I gotta say, politics is so boring. Thank you, Thank
you for trying to spice it up.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, right now, it doesn't take a lot, right.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Don't take a lot.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Well, this is a story about the first gentleman who
is accused of murder President Clinton. I'm wondering, what's it
like to live inside the headspace of the first gentleman.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I don't know. I tried. It's the only job I
ever wanted in politics that I didn't get.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
And he's got all the good lines.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
You're the writer.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
You got to know this writer.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What let me say?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
It's not easy, sure, I mean if.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But our guy is sort of a perfect picture of
the dilemma because he was He went to school with
the president, then they later met in California and fell
in love and got merrit. But he was a big jock.
He was the first IVY leader drafted in the first
(20:20):
round in the NFL. And he's he's he's a complicated figure.
He's not hung up about his wife being the president.
He's proud of him.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, you been that as good as our guy? You know,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
That you would have you would have been, Yes, I know,
Hillary would.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Was the best qualified person in my life. I mean,
he said, but what we presented that's accurate is he
did want something to do. That was his own thing,
and he thought he could revive President Kennedy's physical fitness counsel.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And also maybe murdering someone.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah, you're burying the lead.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well, the murder thing comes up, but we're talking about
right now.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Oh, you always want to talk about the murder thing, James.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, Well to peace, that's the look.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
But you want to talk about you're inside the mind
of the character here.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. But my point is the White House staff doesn't
know about the murder thing at the beginning. They don't
always under any kind of cloud. And immediately there are
people who don't want him to do that. So that's
that's a very typical thing in white houses, all white houses.
(21:44):
There are people who think that if anybody else gets
any credit for anything, it will diminish the president. And uh,
I never saw it that way when I was president,
when I was a governor before, I figured if I
pointed somebody to an important job and I did a
(22:04):
good job, that helped me not hurt me. And I
can never figure out.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But it's kind of a d I want to Washington,
and it's not confound to one party, that one thing.
It's so you see that in our book, you can figure.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I have to agree with Marthie Tayler Green on this.
One thing.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Surprising about the love of the fun part of it
is it is a fun ready you do need a
little break, Honestly, I think, well, you need a break right.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
If you want to take a step away from all
the chaos of the news cycle, read a story about
a potential homicide and relax.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
A little bit, exactly.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
I guess it's curious even hearing you guys talk about this, like,
I'm curious about where the genesis for some of these
ideas are. Clearly, President Clinton, you come to this book
with some ideas about what it feels like to be
in the White House, some of the push and pull
the dynamics that exists within the politics at that level.
And James, you come into this, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
It is it murder first? Is it story first? Is
it plot first?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's always character first. It's always character but interesting with
this book.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
And we agreed about halfway through it wasn't working really
and this has never happened with us before. And he
called up and he said, I don't like any of
the characters, and I said, I agree. I don't the other. Yeah,
so we had to really go back and work on
the character. Agree, it's all character for me.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
It's all character.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Alice Cross, it's all character, you know. He we all
have to deal with our balancing film, not all of us,
but family and then work. That's what Alice has to do.
He says, detective, and you know it's obviously over the
top detective work. Then he's got to go home and
and that's the series it's on on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He's balancing those two things.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Do you have do you struggle with the fact of
like writing empathetic characters in the White House? Looking at
the White House now, wondering are there any empathetic characters
in the White House?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Like how we always agree on trying to do an outline,
and then sometimes we try and then sometimes the plot
takes us away. This is the third book we've done together,
and so far we agree on the outline. Then he
(24:27):
gives me a list of twenty questions or more to
answer to make sure the there were being authentic.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I mean that's a key thing.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I mean I just make up stuff in my regular books,
but with this I have to pass attested to well.
That would never happen, or here's how it would happen.
Here's what the ticket service would do.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
If you pop quiz a discipline, right, and.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Then he'll and he'll be fixing stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Okay, Like what parts that you've done three books?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Now what your view of the presidency before you started
writing these films?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Like what did you get wrong? Initially?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Everything? Now?
Speaker 7 (25:01):
You know the thing that and we tried to before
about it just humanizing. I mean, unfortunately we've gotten into
a habit of demonizing everybody.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And I know the show doesn't and it's a lot
of fun and it's you know, but ideally.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Cool cool cool, right about murder.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Man, Yeah, but there's only one there may or may
not be one murderer in this in this book, but
everybody else we need needed to make him human. And
the thing let me give a quick thing on this
past summer, the President called the house and my wife
Sue was on and he said, let me show you this.
Put it on picture phone and there he was with
(25:40):
his grandkids and he's in a tiger suit and only
his face is showing human being. That we need to
do more of that. I think, Yeah, human being, human being.
I don't know how we would do it with certain characters,
but you know, because I don't know who that would be.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Humanizes the president suddenly saying that he's wearing a tiger stand.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
I think that makes me worry about that. President.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, now are you okay?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
President?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I kind of like with wardrobe at home.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
My grandkids thought it was great.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
If you're doing it with If you don't know what
the four year old, it's okay you're doing with your girlfriend.
It's a little weird.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Him.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
No judgment, man, no judgment A good point.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Good point.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Do you know when this book is going to be
banned by the Trump administration?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I was actually trying to think if there are some
reason they could think of the ban.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
It they don't need.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
It wouldn't be that, it wouldn't be the White House.
But in certain counties they may all of a sudden,
they don't need a reason.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
They just go in.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
One person goes in, I don't like the book, Okay,
we'll ban it. So'll probably be be banned in a
couple of counties.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't like it. It's a bad deal. When Maya Angelo,
who read the inaugural poem at my first inauguration, wrote
it and read it and was a great human being.
The first thing the White House did was to ban
her book. I know why The Cage Bird sings at
(27:12):
the Naval Academy Library and the Military Academy Library at
West Point, and I can't figure out why. It's a
magnificent book about a little girl who's abandoned by her
parents and lives with her grandparents. So she's three or
four years old and her brother. Then she has to
go somewhere else and while she's a child, she loses
(27:34):
the ability to speak for a couple of years because
she was abused, and then she blooms. I couldn't figure
out why that was a problem.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So many mysteries.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, it's do you think it's the blooming portion of it?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
All?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Anything to do with you see, an empathy for a small,
young black child perhaps had a little something to do
with it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And she turned out to be about six feet tall
and no longer small.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
You know, do you think that was height? Height was
the issue?
Speaker 15 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Trump, Trump is all the books with characters over five.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
To let him get out of here.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
She was a very large woman with a very deep
voice and a massive talent and a great heart, and
so I took a very dim view of that. We
were friends. I spoke at her funeral. I didn't like it.
I don't like book banning, and I wasn't ever for
banning books that were full of things that they said
(28:36):
about me that weren't true. It never occurred to me
that I should stop you from reading them.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah, you know you're gonna have some regrets looking back
on what you could have done. I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Yeah, it's interesting in this book. Another portion of this
book is that the president is going out for a
grand bargain, which is a big, audacious bargain. I'm curious
where that came in in the writing process, and in
some ways would this have been Clinton three point zero
is sort of an agenda that you could see for
America today. And follow up, why wasn't invading Greenland a
(29:18):
part of that?
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Well, we took that part out. We didn't think we
didn't think it was credible. I wrote it in and
he took it.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Out that this is how it starts, this is how
it begins.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Does have a lot of rareers and minerals that we
might need someday. Denmark is the Nito allies of ours
instead of stealing it from we audience make a deal
and have a contract like normal people, do, you know?
But this grand bargain is we got problems of our
(29:55):
own making, and part of them the massive that we have,
which is about it's over one hundred percent of our
annual income.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
A lot of it was unavoidable because of the We
had the financial crash in two thousand and eight and
then the COVID problem only twelve years later. So when
interest rates go down below inflation and stay there, if
you raise taxes.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Or you.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Do other things to tighten the economy, you'll just make
it worse. So in those narrow instances, we had to
spend more money than we were taking in to get
any kind of economic activity. But you can't do it forever,
and so we need to stop that now. And therefore
(30:58):
I think this latest budge it's sent to Congress by
the administration was a mistake because it's going to make
it worse. It's like saying, Okay, the economy is doing
fine now. We have relatively low unemployment, we have relatively
low inflation, and it's getting better, and let's make it
worse now and have a huge increase in it. I
(31:20):
don't think it makes sense, and I think we'll regret it.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I mean, I think some of the critique right now
is that Republicans seem to be the party that wants
to be fiscally responsible when they get in power, and
they don't act on that.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Do you believe it's insincere?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, it's all rhetoric. We double the debt when President
Reagan was in office. We've been a country for a
long time by nineteen eighty, and we doubled the debt
in eight years, and then we increase it by another
fifty percent under President Bush, and he tried to do
(31:56):
something about it. He signed a budget passed by the
Congres under the leadership of the committee chair of Leon Panetta,
who later became my chief staff and President Obama CIA chief.
Then after President the second President Bush got elected, the
(32:19):
first thing he did was to pass a big tax
cut again. And he had a little bit of a
recession to deal with six months or something. So if
he had said let's do this for a year so
I can avoid a recession or minimize it, I would
(32:40):
have supported it. But he wanted to make it permanent.
And that's there. It's almost theology with them there's no
such thing as a bad tax cut unless it helps
poor people.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
But they're in the book.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
There is there is, there is a solution that's that's
proposed by the president and what we do, which is
appropriate for a suspension. We kind of build up suspense
about what is it until the very end of the book,
which is appropriate I think in this kind of yea,
I figured.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Look, it's a book. I mean, it's a mystery, so
we couldn't write a thirty page but I tried to
give an outline with that.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
The initial pitch of like and the last thirty pages
is sort of an outline for the plan for economic
stability America was like, let's.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Keep it to two, but not to but yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I tried to show that you couldn't make a difference,
you could make a change, and we went through these
two deep holes. So I don't expect anybody to be
able to solve this in four years. I didn't expect
President Trump to be able to but you you got
to follow the first rule. First, if you're in a hole,
(33:52):
stop digging. I was hoping there would be a balanced
program to get us out, and that's what all this
doge was sold at but if you look at everything
that mister Musk was working on before he went back
(34:17):
to selling Tesla's all of it together is the tiny
slice of our budget. Most of our budget goes to healthcare,
Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, veterans, health defense, and the slice
(34:38):
that he's got is not very big. You can't possibly
solve a problem this big with a budget that's this,
and it's our future budget. If you ask yourself, why
is America leading the world now, it's because of our
leading technology and in biomedical search, especially at lots of
(35:00):
other areas. So that's what they want to cut. It's
a mistake, it's you, don't it. Just like I love
watching this the NBA Finals. These teams have been great, amazing.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Are you Okac guy?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Pacers fan? Nick's initially right?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I like them both.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Still. The politician, I.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Was with Oklahoma City when it was bombed, and I've
been with them ever since because of what they did,
with what they suffered. It's an unrecognizable place today because
they work together and they had an ethic, as they said,
of kindness and hard work, and it's worked. But I
(35:58):
was not prepared for her good Indiana, was I mean there,
it's fun watching them. So you know, I went in
with for Oklahoma City and I haven't stopped liking them.
But it's amazing the courage that Indiana has showed every time,
(36:20):
and they're playing like this.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
If only are politics can get back to the legitimacy
of NBA basketball, where.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
We can love one thing but understand what the other
team brings to it.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
All these people respect each other. You can look at
them and you don't see these Oklahoma City guys jumping
up and down. Because Harris Halberton doesn't make a lot
of points because he tore off his right leg and
what he knew came back in the second half. He
didn't score a bunch of points, but he ran the
offense and they did great in the second half.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
So I mean, you know, it's we need to bring
respect back to perhaps the New York Knicks as well, right,
so they.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
May be feeling a few of those pieces, well.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Great this year, it great, we.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Could celebrate that, right.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Speaking of some some uh this last weekend, there was
a little bit of money spent.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
In Washington, d c.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
At a couple of dollars a couple I.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Think forty five million last I heard at this big
birthday celebration slash army parade. I was curious if you
guys saw that, or President Clinton, you thought about throwing.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
All the y're watching the you know, when you were
interviewing people, people are going, oh, we're cutting education, great. Oh,
we're cutting a cancer research great. What are people nuts?
We're cutting cancer research?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Great?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Interview like that?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Ye yeah, yeah, that's how you have to go back natural.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
We don't need cancer this.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Yeah, it's one of the things that one of the
things I noticed when I was there, there's been a lot.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
Of that's what I should do with voting. You shouldn't
be able to vote. If you're going to say stuff
like that, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
You can't vote. I'm sorry you can't go. Yeah, both
against cancer research and no voting.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
That's the line, right, it's eighteen and if you're against
cancer research, maybe now's not the one.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
For a few other things.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Well, I think the Democrats need to as themselves. How
come we can't beat that? I think about now the
Supreme Court is gonna have to step in this time.
It seems like because they seem to say last year
(38:30):
in two decisions, well yeah, the president might commit a crime,
but as long as he thinks it's the right thing
to do, and by definition can't be criminal. Who ever
heard of that?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
You see what happened this weekend as well with the
no Kings protests.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Five million people, five people to show up. I think
there's definitely an energy there.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
When I talk to a lot of people who are progressed,
I think they're frustrated, they're angry, many are scared. They
don't know what the best use of their.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Energy is or where to put that.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
I think there's no Kings showing was one way of
like a show of force. I think when you talk
about the flaws the Democrats unable to put up a
defense against people who are anti cancer, like where should
that energy?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Where should that go?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
First of all, I think I think Biden had a
successful four years. He did a good job, I think,
but we didn't have enough of a campaign on the
back end. And I think it's a little unfair to
say it's Kambel Harris's fault because she didn't ask for
the circumstances which we're visiting.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Art.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
So now we've got what they have to do with
the people in Washington is they do need to show
what's wrong with this budget and do their best to
beat it or get changes in it. Keep going. But
it's not an election yet, and I think we need
(40:06):
other people to come up with ideas. That's why we
wrote the book, though he did partly just to say
you can be a Republican or Democrat and be for
this this that makes common sense. And we've gotten too
far away from that. We're so interested in demeaning and
debasing and name calling. And President Trust's been richly rewarded
(40:29):
for that, for being able to just divide and distract people.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
You know, I learned during the early on in terms
of life lessons, that skepticism is absolutely healthy and terrific
and cynicism is poison.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Yeah, but what do you say to the young person
who sees what's happening in Los Angeles and sees people
standing up upset about their neighbors being deported and suddenly
the National Guard.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
Being brought in protests and vote protesting to do things though,
don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Look like you know a lot of the lawyers talk
to me about the Supreme Court decisions which seem to
say that once your president, you can you can't break
the law. You can just do whatever you think is right,
and if it's against the law, you just say you
thought it was the right thing you do. And I
(41:21):
thought there's an easy way to fix it. They said,
what do you mean. The Supreme Court's sixty three for them,
maybe five four. And I always say, if you elect
a Democrat president, they will have an epiphany and all
of a sudden they will rediscover the separation of powers
(41:43):
and the things that and constitutional rights and all this stuff.
It'll change again. We look, we are the longest consistently
lasting democracy and history. We're not the oldest country in history,
but we are the oldest democracy. And Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican, said,
(42:11):
after he went through that mess with Joe McCarthy, he
was very worried about whether we would have the mental
discipline to sustain our democracy. And all this happened, and
today it may look so and ai scarce people. Everybody's
(42:31):
scared of something, But I'm just telling you, we're about
to celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth birthday. And so far,
everybody that's bet against his country's lost money. So far
we have saved it. But citizens can't sit around and whin.
They got to get off the bench and play the game.
(42:52):
And if you don't like who's being elected and you
don't like what they're doing, you got to get out
there and fight for it. And one of the things
that we try to do in this book, it's the
mix people see that we try to make them see
democracy as.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
And And also a big thing about this book are
the two journalists and who really are trying to find
out the truth? And I think there are a lot
of good journalists who do that, and we're forgetting about
that and we go people are going online for journalism
that's written by fiction writers just making stuff up.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
That not a lot of satirical comedians in this book,
I notice. Yeah, it's surprising you didn't have more heroic
satirical comedians.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
That's the next book.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
That could be the next book before I let you
guys go, I like this. That's gonna sell. That'll definitely sell.
Can I maybe get in on some of the royalties
writing a book like that with you next week?
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yes, we won't do that one.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Before I let you guys go, I do want.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
I want to get your thoughts on what's happening in
the news today. I think we covered this in the
first tact talking about Iran. Uh, you've sat at the table,
you've tried to negotiate peace in the Middle East, and
we have Donald Trump talking about whether he's somebody who's
going to summon that bring that force. There's a lot
of questions as what the next steps are going to be.
I think as somebody who sits and watches that, who's
(44:22):
been in similar positions, like what.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Do you hope for? What advice do you have?
Speaker 1 (44:27):
First of all, they're not talking about negotiating peace in
the Middle East because of the The Israelis have no
intention of under a president primer so Nan Yahoo giving
a pala Citian the state. And now they're too divided
(44:47):
in a crush to organize themselves to achieve it. So
and President Trump apparently agrees with that that they shouldn't
have a state. But you don't want a disaster either.
And mister Natniel, who has long wanted to fight Iran
(45:11):
because that way he can stay in office forever and ever,
and he's been there most of the last twenty years.
But I think we should be trying to diffuse it,
and I hope President Trump will do that. He I
hope anybody there will do that. We've got to stop.
(45:32):
We've got to convince our friends in the Middle East
that we'll stand with them and try to protect them.
But choosing undeclared wars in which the primary victims are
civilians who are not politically involved one with the other,
just want to live decent lives is not a very
(45:54):
good solution. Do I think that we have to try
to stop Iran from having a nuclear work? When I do.
I tried at that and we had some success. But
we don't have to have all this outright constant killing
of civilians who can't defend themselves and they just want
a chance to live.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Well said.
Speaker 6 (46:25):
As successful authors with the book number two on the
New York Times Bestsellers.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Wasn't my first wish, but it was my second wish.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
It's still a very good wish.
Speaker 6 (46:34):
I'm curious, as authors, can you tell me, do you
guys know how the American story will end?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's not going to end, not in our lifetime.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
They're all about sequels.
Speaker 7 (46:43):
Huh yeah, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
The people in this audience, you think about this. If
everybody in this country who's worried about it, we'd just
start talking to their neighbors and generating interest. These five
million people at the No King's rallies, they're a pretty
good Canarrea of the Colone.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
I suspect this summer is going to be interesting. I
think there'll be a lot of people on the streets
trying to express there.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Keep fighting, you've got to. But I'm telling you, President Trump,
whatever you think of the previous campaigns, did win that
last election, and he has a right to govern and
try to do what he thinks is right. And those
(47:39):
of us who don't agree with him have a right
to say we don't agree and here's why. And you
just need to fight that. You can win this fight
if you'll stay at it.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
The first settlement is available out Lesident's James Patterson.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
We're gonna take a quick break. We're right back after that.
Now that's a show for tonight. There it is.
Speaker 13 (48:17):
The Guardian newspaper reported that pizza deliveries to the Pentagon
searched right before the US invasion of Panama in nineteen
eighty nine and Operation Desert Storm in nineteen ninety one.
Of course, all of this is on a need to
know basis. That's need with a k.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Stew Oh you had to go there, didn't you, Ashley?
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Oh you did?
Speaker 5 (48:39):
Did you did it?
Speaker 3 (48:40):
I had to, Yeah, you had just have to.
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