05/06/21 DPS Hour 3 Pierre McGuire

Pierre McGuire talks to Dan about the fight in the NHL between the Capitals and the Rangers. Pierre says he knew earlier in the day that the shenanigans were going to happen. Pierre says that he cant explain the etiquette of fighting in the NHL; he says that the enforcers are all but gone from the game.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final Hour on this Thursday, Dan and The
Dan's Stan Patrick Show. If you missed the conversation with
Adam Schefter, I encourage you to go to Dan Patrick
dot com. Had a spirited back and forth why that
information came out on Draft Day. I thought something was imminent.

(00:21):
I thought it was here's the information, and Adam said,
according to league sources, team sources, it was an accumulation
of information. But still didn't find out exactly why he
dropped the information on Draft Day. And I don't know
where we are right now with Aaron Rodgers because Aaron's
not talking. Packers still try to want to keep him

(00:42):
in the building, but I think we're pretty far down
the road. And I think at the beginning of June
that's when that cap hit is not as penetrating, and
that's when it looks like he would be at least
on the trading block. Until then, you're not going to
trade him. You're probably receiving phone calls here. I'm going

(01:02):
to imagine if I'm the Broncos, I'm calling. If I'm
the Raiders, I guess I'm calling. If I'm the Saint.
I mean, there's a lot of teams that if you go, hey,
is Aaron Rodgers in play? And if he is, what's
it going to cost? Is it a similar situation to
what the Rams did with Jared Goff and Matthew Stafford.

(01:22):
Well it's not the same because Detroit basically said to
Matthew Stafford and vice versa, Hey, let's give you a
nice landing spot here, thank you for everything you've done.
We're moving in a different direction. New coach in here. GM,
We're going to go in our direction. We appreciate everything
you've done, no hard feelings. Thank you for everything you've

(01:44):
meant to this organization. They got a great landing spot
with the Rams. You get Jared Goff in return, and
you get draft picks in return. Is that something that
Green Bay would entertain? And there's so many people giving
so many opinions on this, and right now it's opinions
because until Aaron Rodgers comes out and says, hey, this

(02:06):
is how I feel, this is what I want to
have done, he doesn't have to go into gory details
about his relationship or lack thereof with the GM. He's
told us about the Jordan Love situation, how he reacted,
how he found out. Okay, you cut his good friend
Jake Kumereau, who is a wide receiver who two days

(02:27):
earlier you talked about him on a national radio show
and then they cut him. Okay, like this a business.
And green Bay they handled this like it's a business.
They drafted Jordan Love. Now should they Well we can
look back and say no, but they green Bay was
betting that Aaron Rodgers was not going to be great.

(02:48):
And when the MVP this past year, Now, what do
you do with Jordan Love? He's not ready to play?
Can you wait another year? Can you have this continue
in the organization? Do you want a lame duck Aaron
Rodgers quarterbacking your team? Well? I would because it gives
us the best chance of winning. But I also have

(03:08):
to look at at what point do I decide to
trade Aaron Rodgers and what can I get in return?
But you can go back to Dan Patrick dot com.
I go to the website and hear all of our interviews.
Pierre McGuire NHL and NBC, the Great Hockey Analyst. He
was there at the garden last night up front and

(03:29):
they had a personal, very very close to the action
there as they dropped the gloves from the opening face off.
He'll join us coming up, yes point, going back to
Adam Schefter. We're having a discussion the break about why
Adam Schefter put this information out there, this report out
there three o'clock on Draft Day, and when we were
doing the show last week, last Thursday, at almost exactly
this time, a local radio host named Bill Michaels, He's

(03:50):
out of Wisconsin. He posted that the forty nine ers
have offered the Packers the third overall overall pick and
other picks for Aaron Rodgers, and he credited Paul Allen,
who's played by play guy in Minnesota, we all know
does the Vikings and has a radio show there. So
that's what the only inklings we got that draft morning
that anything was going on, and we here didn't know

(04:12):
much about those reports. Okay, but I want to understand
when Paul Allen, Paul Allen is a great radio host
in Minneapolis and also is the voice of the Vikings,
did he put it out on Thursday? Because I thought
that Paul Allen put the report out on Friday that
the Niners did reach out to the Green Bay Packers,
did Bill Michaels put this out or did Paul Allen

(04:34):
put this out? Bill Michaels put it out based off
you know, he said other people have been talking about it.
He said, Paul Allen spoke about it on his radio
show on Thursday pre draft. Okay, So but again that
sometimes doesn't get to the national media or into the
national audience. Yeah, And Adam Schefter did talk about this
was sort of an open secret that the Rams reached out,
the Niners reached out, teams understood that Aaron did not

(04:58):
you know, he may not want to come back, or
voicing you know, discontent in the organization there. But when
I saw and I saw this live, when Adam did
this on NFL Live, and I'm going, is Aaron Rodgers
going to be traded? Like? Like? It felt like that.
And then I thought it was Rogers because he was

(05:19):
Draft Day and look a lot of other people did.
But you know, I thought, maybe this is Aaron Rodgers
saying through somebody to Adam Schefter, Hey, I don't want
to be here, but I wanted to know what, you know,
why was it leaked? Why was it dropped on Draft Day?

(05:39):
That's what I was trying to figure. I'm still trying
to figure that out because nothing really happened here other
than did Adam think somebody else was going to have
this story? Yeah. Also, the John Lynch, the GM of
the forty nine ers, admitted in his post draft comments
kind of late night on Thursday that so he was asked,
did you call the packers? He was, yeah, I called you.

(06:01):
We played that sound before. He admitted that he called
the packers and it was a short conversation about Aaron Rodgers.
So that story is confirmed. So it's true the Niners
did at least place they called, and I'm gonna guess
they said, hey, you know, I got an offer here
for you? Or was it hey, it's John Lynch Brian. Yeah,
I'm not interested by But what information did the Niners

(06:24):
have that they would have made the call? This feels
like a thirty for thirty, Like it just feels like
there's and we're not even done. We're halfway through this.
Who knows how the thirty for thirty ends up. Yeah. Mclovin. Yeah,
but you know, I hate to put on you, but
you kept saying there was something fishy going on in
Green Bay. So that's why now it's easy to believe

(06:47):
that Scheffer's report is true. Well, that was six weeks ago, right,
You said he wouldn't be back after next year. I
was told it's laughable to think that Rogers will be
back after this season coming up, Which makes me think
that a lot of people knew that the situation was untenable,
but that happened quickly. The Vikings radio announcer McLevin just

(07:09):
sent this to me, Paul Allen claimed on his radio
show Thursday Morning. So a week ago today, the Packers
turned down a massive trade offer for Aaron Rodgers from
the San Francisco forty nine ers. He said that the
Niners made the call Wednesday night and they were going

(07:33):
to give the third overall pick and Garoppolo, but the
Packers turned it down. Paul Allish had it tweeted that
out moments after. Yes, yes he should have. Okay, well

(07:53):
it makes sense, But I I want to be fair
to Aaron Rodgers through all of this, because I will
say this, a lot of the reporters are going to
side with the Packers. Why because Aaron Rodgers is only
going to play football a few more years. The Packers

(08:14):
are going to be around a long time. You want access,
and I haven't heard anybody reporting something that puts Aaron
Rodgers in a more favorable light. It's that the Packers
are placed in a more favorable light. Most of the
reporting has been that way, So I just want to
be fair to Rogers. Does he want out? When did

(08:36):
he say wanted out? Did the Niners place an offer?
Why was this dropped on Draft Day? And nothing happened
during the draft at all? So I got more questions
than I do answers here. But I appreciate Adam coming
on because I just wanted it cleared up well, and

(08:58):
he said, look, it wasn't Aaron and it wasn't the team.
But his initial tweet says league sources teams source, Well,
which team? I'm assuming that's Green Bay. League source could
be other teams, could be the Rams, could be the Niners.

(09:18):
But team source. That's where I have to think the
Packers are somehow involved in this, at least behind the scenes. Yeah. Mclo. Also,
then after schefter, Pro Football Talk reported that Aaron Rodgers
was disappointed that they turned down the trade offer. That

(09:38):
was another detail that came out quickly, which, by the way,
also makes perfect sense because he would be amazing in sanforature.
Oh yeah, be able to go back home and that
can you imagine that team with Aaron Rodgers, crazy great,
it'd be awesome, they'd be I'd be the super Bowl
favorite with the Rams. Have been your favorite with Aaron Rodgerson.
It's pretty good too, pretty good? Yes, yeah, Paul Man.

(10:02):
When don't you do the thing in your head when
you've been speculative trade you start picturing people in different
uniforms than the colors. I just think of the spiral
Ram's helmet on Rogers, good luck, good luck on anybody.
I'd look good in that, jarthy. But the Niners have
made no secret of the fact they're all they've been
looking for Jimmy G's replacement. They wanted Tom Brady, Yeah,
they made no secret they wanted Aaron Rodgers. They got

(10:26):
Trey Lance. Like the handwritings on the wall. And if
you could trade Garoppolo in the number three pick, Now,
if I'm Green Bay, do I want that? No? I
mean then I got Garoppolo? And then how long do
I have Garoppolo? And is he a starter? And then
so I don't want I don't want another question mark here,

(10:46):
like I need somebody. They need a quarterback, whether Rogers
stays or not, they need another quarterback on the roster
because Jordan Love was the third string quarterback. Yeah, Pa,
If I'm the Packers, I hate the idea of trading
Aaron Rodgers to any decent team because those draft picks
are gonna be the twentieth pick of the draft, the
twentieth pick of the draft, like the forty nine Ers
or the Rams or the Saints. Those are awful trade partners.

(11:09):
Those are between NFC teams and the fact that they're
gonna win, and those draft picks become almost like high
second round picks, and you don't want to trade him
to your rival. You know, the Niners. You don't want
to trade now. I mean that's not the true rival,
but they are arrival when it comes to getting to
the super Bowl, and when that team is healthy that
they would be a better team than the Packers, and

(11:30):
you give them Aaron Rodgers. I think if you see
the Jimmy g thing doesn't excite me. If I'm Green Bay,
the third overall pick, Okay, what am I getting? I
can take another quarterback, or I can take Kyle Pitts,
or I can trade down. I don't know. That's what
I was trying to one. I was wondering, like, how

(11:51):
much is enough to get Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I'm a club.
Pro Football Talk has some possible veterans they could sign
in Green Bay and it ain't pretty. Brian Hoyer, Barkley,
Nick Mullins, Blake Bortles, and RG three out excuse Ryan
and Ryan and Florida joins us. Hey, Ryan, what's on
your mind today? Guys? I got I got your answers. Okay,

(12:15):
so near in December thirt so Packers they they got
a month to break Rogers looked like today to day
the deal sending Rogers to Denver is done. He said,
you said yourself, pack two people. But Ryan, Ryan, thanks

(12:39):
for the phone called. This isn't a leak. That's what
I'm trying to clean up today. This was an accumulation
by Adam Schefter since the season ended. And now why
he decided to drop it on Draft Day, I still
don't know, because if it was a leak, then it
would be this is coming out now. This is why

(13:00):
it's coming out now, and whatever side is leaking this information,
it doesn't sound like it was a leak. It sounds
like it was an open secret. He's not happy and
teams know that, and that's why the Niners reached out.
The Rams reached out because they knew something was going on,
and then they found out they were shut down. Pete

(13:21):
Niwa joins us, Hey, Pete, what's on your mind? Since
you don't have a lot of hard information, I've been
consulting my gut and I have a definitive answer. Who
gained the most by this coming out and who's been
proactively talking to the media all offseason. It's definitely the
forty nine ers. That's definitely who was a source. They
had the information, they had the most to gain, I think,

(13:42):
without a doubt, outs to leak the information. All right, Well,
thank you, Pete. Yeah, Seton, I just want to point
out for the record that so far, by far, the
most accurate source on this story has been Bret, the
it guy in Wisconsin and Wisconsin this whole thing is
being completely blown out of proportion so far. He's checking
out more than every other NFL reporter. And Brett knows

(14:03):
somebody who knows somebody who works at a best Buy
and was kind the best Buy was made up, that
wasn't true. Okay, so a an it store somebody who
there that the team apparently gets their apple products from. Yes,
so maybe it's an apple store. And then he's on
the board. And then he said that that boss is
on the board. He said, don't worry. We had a meeting.

(14:23):
We had a board meeting, and they said everything is
blown out of proportion so far, that's the most realistic
report we've gotten in the past week. If Chefty just
says anonymous sources, is it a little easier to understand

(14:44):
when you do team sorce. That's the only thing that
caught my eye was like, wait a minute, team source. Yeah,
pause to me. It's the end of his tweet where
he says sources told ESPN on Thursday. It made it
sound like it was a exploding situation, less of a
here's the information I've gathered since the season end. The
result is the same. I don't believe. I think Adam

(15:05):
Schefter is completely obviously telling the truth, and he believes
his reports. He's got great sources, he's got a lot
of history of it. But when you see the tweet,
it had a reaction where it was an immediate blow
up of some type where Rogers got a hold of
people in the organization moments before the draft, for hours
for the draft, to days before their every said, look,
I'm not sticking around here. I just want to let
you guys know before draft nights so you can make
your new plans. It just felt something was imminent, like

(15:26):
something was going to happen tonight in the draft that
Mark Schlais was talking on Draft night, march laars pretty
connected guy, especially with the Denver Broncos. He said he
expected that he was reading the tea leaves. He expected
the Denver Broncos to acquire Aaron Rodgers. That's how hot
that story was that night. Fill in Indiana's back. I Phil,
what's on your mind? Dan? It is always a pleasure

(15:48):
to speak with you. I really become increasingly frustrated with
these like whether it's Woach or Chef Dey. While I
don't like them, it just seems that they come out
with these stories that have no exact facts. And it
seemed like your interview with Schefter, it just seemed like
all he did was listening to press conferences and release

(16:09):
a story. It didn't seem like there were any any
facts behind it. It didn't seem like there were any
you know, whether he spoke to sources and Dan, I
just really wanted to get your thoughts. That to me
is irresponsible journalism, but I really wanted to get your
thoughts down. We'll always have a great day, buddy. Thank you. Phil. Look,
I trust Adam Schefter his sources. I just wanted to

(16:31):
know about the timing, that's all, and who was going
to leak the like why was it coming out? And
it felt like there was information coming out right then not.
You know, this is an accumulation that started after the
NFC title game. That's what I didn't understand. What was
the breaking news. Yes, but even Paul Allen saying the

(16:55):
forty nine ers reached out about a trade for Aaron
Rodgers is a completely different story. Then Aaron Rodgers is
disgruntled and wants out. Those are those are completely separate
stories in some respect. Well, one is very specific. The
Niners called the Packers and there's at least a discussion
of the number three pick and Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't

(17:17):
know what Roger's mindset is. We're probably not going to
find that out. He doesn't have he doesn't owe it
to us in the media. But I think he owes
it to the fans in Green Bay and to the Packers.
If you want to move on, what's the best way
to move on? Just say it? I want to move on. No,
Patriot fans realized Tom Brady wanted to move on. Fans

(17:41):
move on as well. It hurts. It's gonna it's gonna
hurt if he's successful elsewhere. But the Packers have done
this before. At some point you have to say enough,
we're not going to make you happy enough. Do we
want to tie up all this money? No, we wait
till June first. That cap hit is not that bad.

(18:04):
Do you still have teams that need quarterbacks? What can
you give us? You just put them out there. It's
like a tagsail. What are you willing to give us?
That's what happened with the Lions with Matthew Stafford. Granted
not the status of Aaron Rodgers, but that's you were
planning on this moment, the Packers. That's why you drafted

(18:25):
Jordan Love? Can you can you trade Jordan Love? Do
you fire the GM? Do you give Rogers a contract
that you know is going to pay him forty five
fifty million? Like? At what point do you as an organization,
just say it just doesn't make sense. This is painful.

(18:46):
And yes, as Chefty said, you want to be known
as the GM who traded Aaron Rodgers, Well, what am
I getting in return? And what is the endgame for
Aaron Rodgers? Is he gonna sit out and retire? We're
gonna as for his signing bonus money? Bat Like, there's
a lot left to this. Yeah. See, I wonder if
Tom Brady hadn't just won the Super Bowl with the Buccaneers,

(19:07):
if the Packers would have been more open to that trade,
because I mean that the one of the storylines of
the season was and especially after the super Bowl was
well it looks like Brady one and Belichick loss. Patriots
really screwed up. Yeah, And I'm just I would bet
that teams are a little more leary now of being like, oh, Craig,

(19:28):
we don't want to let him go, so he wins
a ring and now we look stupid. Tom got to
pick where he's going. Aaron might not get that luxury
to pick where he's going, because if I'm the Packers,
I'm not trading him to an NFC team. You want
to go to Denver? All right, let's see what they have.
If you really want to be me and you send

(19:49):
him to Houston, you're safe. Yeah, you don't have to
worry about him going to a super Bowl. We'll take
a break. It was unbelievable last night with the Capitals
and the Rangers at the garden because they drop the
puck and then they dropped the gloves. Pierre Maguire will
join us to recap what he saw last night. Twenty

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combined for two goals three a sign you will drop
the face off three fights simultaneously. Rooney and Dowd deefa
Seppi going out it with halfaway block well clip one
second in. That's how it started. Last night nbcsn NHL
on NBC. Inside the Glass analyst Pierre McGuire was on

(21:57):
the call for that game last night. He'll be on
the call for tonight's Rangers Bruins matchup NBCSN. Probably less
fireworks in that one, and Pierre kind enough to join us. Pierre,
when did you sense that there was something that was
going to happen prior to or quickly after the puck
was dropped? Probably earlier in the afternoon, Dan, when I

(22:19):
had a chance to talk to Lars Eller or the
Washington Capitols. The Washington Capitals clearly brought their a game,
not just athletically but physically as well, and I think
they were tired of some of the rhetoric that was
going out there about their team. I know the Rangers
were very tired about some of the rhetoric that was
going on around their team. So I think earlier in
the afternoon I kind of felt there was going to

(22:40):
be some shenanigans. Ever, it's going to happen. Whether it
happened at the start of the game or the middle
of the period, I didn't know. But also, if you
send the fourth line out both teams, I'm guessing you're
sending out your tough guys and That's not normal for
a face off to start a matchup, is it. Well,
the one thing i'd give Peter Lave you let the
coach of the Washington Capital's a little leadway on that

(23:02):
he doesn't get last change because he's on the road.
And usually the line that you're talking about with doubt Hathaway.
At Hagling they play a lot against the other team's
top lines, so I don't think they were sure what
exactly Mike Sellen was going to do. Mike, sorry, not
mikeself and I apologize. I'm thinking Pittsburgh, what David Quinn
was going to do. But I would tell you this,

(23:23):
David Quinn comes with his artillery. They don't have a
lot of it obviously with the Rangers, and then everything
kind of gets gone. Give us the backstory on this,
Pierre Well, obviously, the Tom Wilson situation on Monday Dan
wasn't something that endeared anybody, I think in the hockey
world to what happened. I mean, basically, it was Tom
Wilson getting involved to pavl Busnevitch and then eventually getting

(23:46):
involved with Artemmy Pannaron. Pannaron being a superstar player in
the league, and Tom Wilson basically just tossing him down
to the ice and could have been very, very dangerous. Obviously,
as you know, without a helmet on, if he hits
his head instead of his shoulder, Dan, I think we
have a very large potential problem. Obviously he hit his shoulder,
not nearly as much mayhem our injury caused to Panarin.

(24:08):
But that's really the backstory of this whole thing with
Tom Wilson and the New York Rangers. Okay, but five
thousand dollars, fine, no suspension. It's not like Tom Wilson
doesn't have a rap sheet here. But can you factor
in priors with someone like Tom Wilson and should he
have been suspended? Well, I said last night, it begs
the question, why wouldn't you have suspended him for one game?

(24:30):
And I think if you had suspended him for that
game last night, you wouldn't have had what we had.
And I'll just I won't use my words, Dan, I'll
use the words of Brendan Smith, who got involved and
fought Tom Wilson. He said at the end of the game.
I have no bad blood with anybody on the Washington Capitals.
I do with Tom Wilson. And so if Tom Wilson's

(24:51):
not part of the equation, I don't think we have
or we had last night explain the etiquette of fighting
in today's NHL. I don't know if I can. Things
have changed a lot because of the salary cap. It
used to be you could carry three or four extra
players that would be quote unquote enforcers. I don't think
we have the room the luxury of that anymore. Knock that.

(25:12):
I call it a luxury. But against the salary cap,
it's an issue. And now you know you need to
be a player. You just can't be a one dimensional
asset to a team in terms of police in a game.
You've got to be able to play, and if you can't,
then you're not valuable. I will say this, Dan, I
think it's really important. Tom Wilson's not a one dimensional player.
He's a really good, important power forward for the Washington Capitals.

(25:36):
He was a major part of a Stanley Cup winning team.
He's not a knuckle dragger. He's a legitimate good player.
But sometimes he crosses a line, and he did that
the other night in New York. Okay, but how do
you get your message across you know, I go back
to when the Oilers had Dave Simenko protecting Gretzky. How
do you how do you enforce without it being fighting

(25:58):
in today's NHL. Well, I think there's a lot of
different ways you can own the pot. The other team
takes penalty is trying to defend against you. You run
a score up on the power play. You can play
an aggressive four check game and target some of their defensemen.
You can create matchups that you talked about correctly off
the opening faceoff where you put a debt player on
against a star player and you make sure that star

(26:18):
player feels some physical pain. You can do all that stuff.
But the truth of the matter is I would like
to have a player like Tom Wilson on my team.
I wish Rick Cockett was still playing in the NHL.
I had the privilege of coaching Rick. We want to
Stanley Cup with Rick in Pittsburgh in nineteen ninety two,
and a big reason why we want the physicality and
the dogged determination of Rick Hackett. They don't make play

(26:40):
a lot of players like that anymore. They really don't.
Five thousand dollars for a guy who makes whatever five
million dollars. I mean, that doesn't seem like that's really impactful.
Wouldn't you take a five thousand dollars hit if it
meant that you were sending a message to a team
Mike Wilson did. Yeah, But I don't know what message
he was sending in that situation. Everybody said, oh, was

(27:01):
a scrum around the net. Yeah, it was a harmless
scrum in a power place situation. He was out there
actually killing a penalty. He knew the Rangers didn't have
any artillery on the ice. So I don't know what
message he's trying to present. It's already a Washington capitalist
team that's down a lot of people because of injury
and COVID related instances, a team that's a legitimate contender

(27:21):
to win the Cup. So I don't know what message
he was sending to the Rangers. That being said, I
think he got himself into trouble. Now. He's really under
scrutiny all the time, every shift he takes in the league,
he's under scrutiny. Now, what's the NHL do, if anything? Today?
They've got to look at the Pavo guts Navit's cross
check on Anthony Mantha. I don't know what they're going
to do that that took place in the third period.

(27:44):
I mean, that wasn't particularly good, So that's something they're
going to have to look at. But all that being said,
I think they have to look back and say, did
we handle the Tom Wilson situation correctly? He are great
to talk to you, buddy, and have fun tonight. Probably
a little less drama with the Rangers in Bruins, right,
Really nice visity, Really thanks a lot. That's Pierre McGuire.

(28:06):
NBC Sports continues its coverage of the NHL's push for
the playoffs this week nbcnbcsn Para matchups Rangers Bruins to
night at seven Eastern and then Saturday afternoon at three
Eastern on NBC. Gus in La joins us on the topic. Hi, Gus,
what's on your mind today? Good morning, mister Patrick Propole
as well. You know everyone's calling because they have the

(28:29):
answers of the Aaron Rodgers deal. I don't have answers.
I'll give you the answers of the universe. I know
where Hoppa is buried. I'll give you who shot JR.
I don't know, and I don't care where the story
came from I'm calling about this NHL thing. Look, dude,
I'm thirty years old, Mexican living in Los Angeles. I
know about as much as hockey as Fritzie knows about

(28:49):
to sit up. It is just something that I don't
know anything about. But this is an interesting thing. Though.
I like it. It showed, it was awesome, it was fun. However,
does this give now not trying to be you know,
punished here, but does it black eye or does it
intrigue people's interests to be like, yo, that was pretty
sweet to see. Can just go on and can continued? Well,

(29:14):
the next time they play, all right, thank you guys.
The next time they play, it'll be a tune in
I must must watch tune in factor. Here's the problem.
I'm okay with last night. I'm not okay with the
previous night, with what Tom Wilson did, but like that's
just a clean up last night. I don't like what

(29:34):
led to last night. If you got guys who just
square off and you know they're they're mad at each other,
I just don't like what Wilson did the previous game
against the Rangers. Yeah, I don't like what led to
last night. Last night was entertaining. I do have a
friend who works in the sport who said, uh, typical,
you're going to be talking about this. You don't talk

(29:55):
about the sport. And my response back to him is
playoff hockey. I say that that the playoffs in hockey
are more exciting than any other sport, and that's been
our approach. It is, and we'd have Doc Emeric on Pierre.
I mean, I understand him. We don't cover hockey, and

(30:19):
I could be criticized for, Oh, you're gonna cover hockey
because of this, Yeah, go ahead criticize, Yeah, Paul, I
think the Rangers I think are eliminated from playoff contentions
only a couple of games? Can we get a play
in game? Can we get like the Rangers as like
a ninth seed play in game against the Caps? Caps
are in first, they don't face each other again? No,
I think I think the Rangers had the Bruins a
couple of times. Okay, yeah, I got them tonight and

(30:41):
then Saturday. Yeah. See, it's just tough that. Like the
storyline after this is when they're asking the like, Rangers,
are you guys soft? Oh? I know, oh dear, that
is just here is Brendan Smith. Brendan Smith is the
one who started the fight with Tom Wilson last night,
And imagine you start the fight with this tough guy

(31:02):
and then after the game you're asked this question. And
then I've read a lot in the last couple of
days about how the Rangers as a team are. You know,
the words been used soft and you know, not tough
enough and stuff, And I'm wondering if if you feel
like you guys response tonight dis proves that in some way, Well,
let me ask you a question. Do you think we're soft? No? Okay,

(31:25):
you answered it? What if he said yes, do you
think we're soft? Uh? Yeah, Well, like right from the
opening second of the game, you guys are getting beat
up again. So yeah, did you realize if you look
at the video the Capitals started. The Capitals were the
aggressors from the start, and the Rangers were the ones

(31:47):
that were supposed to be retaliated, the ones that were
supposed to be mad, and they got beat up again.
It's like, Okay, once they dropped that puck, we're good.
Wait wait, wait, you guys went too soon. You jumped
the gun here, Yeah, Paul, what if the reporter said, yes,
he dropped his little pen in his iPhone and his
shoulder bag, his man bag. So let's go, yes, hunt,
And what do you do if you're the player, if
the reporter was to say, say, you know what, at times,

(32:09):
you guys do appear to be a little soft, a
little week out there, and like what the play is
supposed to challenge him to a fight on the behind
the curtain, now what he's supposed to do. But this
is what the Rangers, this is how they're labeled. They
are labeled as soft analysts say this, yes, yes, see,
I mean it's kind of soft to go back at
the reporter and be like, oh yeah, why what do

(32:30):
you think? Like okay, yeah, me and you aren't going
to fight right now. But the dudes you're just out
on the ice with. That's when you know, a coach
like Beeheim or coach k will you know you return
fire on a CUB reporter or somebody from this student newsburger. Yeah,
how many games have you coached? None? They don't don't

(32:51):
ever question us. Yeah, how many championship banners have you hung?
Put down that notebook, roll up the sleeves of your
vineyard vine shirt and let's go. Yes, it's go time
right now. I'm going to throw shade at you. I'm
throwing shade at you. Middle aged white guys should do

(33:12):
not say things like that, throwing shade. I'm going to
be throwing shade at you, literally, throwing shade. Literally. Let's
take a break here, let's take a break. I've had
a spirited show today. Um. We started out by me
teaching Fritzie how to take a charge the work in progress. Yes, yeah,

(33:34):
not for me, for me, for you. I didn't even
fall down. I just kind of went that, well, you
don't want to fall down because you can't get back up. Yeah.
By the time I got back, guy, I wun't want
to miss a couple of segments of the show. I'm
in the process of. Oh, by the way, you know
what's coming up. Fritzie is being punished for screwing up
the snoreboard, first of a two game suspension. Yeah, you've
got a two show suspension. We are tougher on you

(33:55):
than the NHL was on Tom Wilson. I'm gonna I'm
suspending you for two snoreboards. Mario is going to do
the honors, and I think he went off the board.
I sent him my suggestive yes, and I told you,
but he erased it and went with his own no. No,
you're not involved in it. You've been suspended for screwing
things up. Yes. Point. Some people on Twitter said they
wish you would have got rid of Scoreboard and kept Fritzie.

(34:17):
They like Fritzie Scoreboard. I got three of those. We
take a break. Let's call for phone calls, close up
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Ben Mallow or the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever
you get your podcast. It's been an interesting show today
covered a lot of ground. I don't know if we
learned anything. There are times when I get done with
the show and I always think, no, I know less

(35:20):
than what I knew when I started three hours ago.
If you missed the Adam Schefter interview, it's worth going
back dan Patrick dot com. We go back and forth
on some things, and I mean, I give him credit
because you know, I'm asking him to kind of defend
what he was saying, why he was saying it on
draft day, and the sources that were attached to it.

(35:43):
He doesn't have to tell me a source. But I
was just I needed more information, that's all. And that's
why I started with Adam. I mean, I would say
the same thing to Brian Goodakoon's or Aaron Rodgers if
they were on the show. And we've invited all of
them because you know that it's my job is to
be the sort of liaison from a story source person

(36:07):
to the audience, and that's why we try to clear
these things up, because I just don't like dealing with
that rumor innuendo, speculation. It's just dangerous. And you want
to be fair to if Aaron Rodgers what he said
or how he said it or said it quietly behind
the scenes, or the Packers are involved in this, or
the Denver Broncos are involved, like I just want to know.

(36:31):
I think that that's part of the reporting of this story.
And this is a huge story if he stays, and
certainly if he leaves. Jesse and la Hey, Jess, what
do you have for me today? But I got a
supree on this story. So my barber's son is a

(36:51):
realtor in Denver, and she said to Aaron Rodgers, dog
Walker is looking at it. I'm just kidding with the
dum we're going with it, Will, Yeah, really though, really though,
I'm trying to laugh a little bit with all the
speculation in drama because it doesn't look like it's getting
resolved anytime soon. And the best thing you can do

(37:13):
for me is if you would please play celebrity journalists
Will Anthony if she has a take on this? All right, okay, well,
thank you, Jess. The celebrity journalist flow Anthony, who claims
to have spoken to a source with knowledge from someone
close to Woods, says Tiger is struggling. Thank you, Jess.
That's one of those. Wait what did Mary Hard say?
A source close to a source who claims tooken to

(37:37):
someone with knowledge of Woods's feelings, who claims to have
spoken to someone with knowledge, claims to him Tiger is struggling.
Oh am, I god, this dage sports history. Pulley. I
got a bunch of him somewhere. Not that great though.
In nineteen fifteen, Babe Ruth for his first major league
home run whilst playing for the Red Sox. He was

(37:58):
also the starting pitcher that day. Oh, there's some, there's some.
These aren't pleasant. Anthony Young of the New York Mets
became the losing streak of twenty six games as a
starting pitcher in ninety two. Here's a good one. Nineteen
ninety five ESPN Classic began. Oh that was fantastic when
ESPN Classic start. But it wasn't on this day that
Carrie would struck out twenty I don't have that as today.

(38:19):
Does that sound right? I thought that was like an
that was an April. That was like an April. Twentieth situation. Okay,
and then uh, another bad one. Nineteen ninety seven, the
NHL's Hartford Whalers became the Carolina Hurricanes. Dun, Dun, Dunn.
There's some people up in our neck of the woods
that never got over that one. No. When the when

(38:40):
the whalers left, you could dial up your phone and
you could they somehow would do the sound of the
when you would dial up your phone and and it
would go up over the loudspeaker in the newsroom. Un
that unun yes, seton. There's a very real contingent though,
of people in this neck of the woods were like, hey,

(39:01):
maybe it's time to move on, oh with the whale. Yeah, yeah,
we should be known as more than the people who
lost the whalers. Yeah, maybe maybe it's time to go
into that nude generation. And nearly got the Patriots. That
was another one, that Hartford's going to get the Patriots.
I go, no, they're not. No, you're being used now.
No no, And it was Victor Kaiam wasn't he the

(39:21):
owner at the time. He's like no, he's saying that
he he can move them to the Hartford. I go,
they're not moving here. Yes, time we have the Hartford
Wolfpack anyway over the Xcel Center downtown Hartford, and they played.
Oh I get the crowd all worked up. It's pretty nice.
Give him some love. Rangers affiliate by Willie may Is
born on this day. He's ninety years of age. Say hey, kid, um,

(39:45):
I had another one. Roger Banister runs the first sub
four minute mile? Did that happen on this day? Not
that I know. I mean I don't want to be
a topper because I already whipped on the Carrie Wood.
See what I did with that? The Carrie Wood striking
on to carry it is an old school I gave
you with you wrong information that I've been having some
dates and jersey numbers a little. Uh. Who's got meat Friday?

(40:09):
I get? I think I do tomorrow. You're Roger Banister.
One was right May six, nineteen fifty four. Oh okay,
I got that one right, sub four minute mile, Roger Banister.
That was in uh Oxford, Oxford, Mississippi. No, No, England, England,
that's right Oxford. Yeah. I don't know if he was
the student theory you'd already graduated or something, But I

(40:32):
don't remember that at all. Check. I know two Oxford
jokes you can't handle too and then like one, yeah,
here you go DP. On May six, nineteen ninety eight,
Carrie wood to head twenty strikeouts in the game. So
it was May it was his if it start all right,
all right, okay, I'm doing okay, crushing it. Yeah, Woody.

(40:56):
I remember watching that game and it was cold. It
was damn The Astros had a great one line up
and I just remember somebody described it as what he
was throwing frisbees. His curveball was a frisbee that day.
And you add a couple of Hall of famers in
that lineup, bagwell, bigio. They needed they needed a garbage can. Yes, yes, frite,

(41:18):
very very clever. Yeah yeah, they definitely could use some
cheating there. Final results of the poll question, I'm exhausted. Okay,
what's the one thing in sports you would least like
to do? Actually getting a crackback block in the NFL
just edges out getting hit by a pitch? How about neither?
Well that getting hit by a pitch. It's where you

(41:40):
get hit by the pitch that matters, because you can
hit somebody in the rear end. You're okay with that,
But you get like plunked on the elbow, middle of
the back, just good. And they'd always say, rubbed dirt
on it. I never understood that. Why Odd rubbed some

(42:02):
dirt on it? And then we would do he would
do it like, well, I don't know. My manager said
to rub dirt on it. It's not doctor recommended. Yes,
sobbing trying to pull up your pant like as your
shin just got crossed. But that was when I was
in high school. I was doing it. Yeah, I like

(42:25):
the guy who gets hit and then he picks the
ball up and he throws it back to the picture
like that didn't hurt. It hurts? Uh? Todd? What did
you learn on today's war dominated program? When the fourth
lines are on the ice for the opening face off,
something ugly will likely transpire? All right, how about you mclovin,
We learned how to take a charge. You got a
grunt her yell at the end. Okay, Seeton O'Connor, what

(42:47):
did you learn? NFL insider bretton Wisconsin most reliable source
we have. Hopefully we'll hear from Brett tomorrow on any
updates on Aaron Rodgers. Paul Yester? Would you learn to
Oxford in England for England Todd, what did I learn
on today's program? The Green Bay Packers needs to look
at what's best for the organization right now, which just
might be parting ways with number twelve. Eventually you realize, hey,

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