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May 7, 2021 43 mins

Rex Chapman talks to Dan about his new podcast called Charges. Rex has an open transparent conversation with Dan about his addiction and how it affected his kids and his family.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Final Hour on this Friday, it's a meat Friday.
At that I was wondering what we were having, and Tyler,
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(00:21):
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Some great t shirts on the website. Go and browse
and maybe you'll find something to your liking. Coming up,
one of my favorite guests the former NBA star Rex Chapman.
He has a new podcast out and it's called Charges

(00:44):
and it has nothing to do with taking a charge
in a game. It has to do with athletes who
have been arrested chargers, and he is front and center.
In fact, his podcast comes with his mug shot when
he was arrested. And you know, this is a great
career comeback for Rex and he's one of my favorite people,

(01:07):
very transparent and everything he went through. And we'll talk
some basketball coming up with Rex Chapman here in a
little bit. Albert pooh Hooles has been released by the Angels.
I don't know if somebody's going to pick him up.
He wasn't going to be playing. And at his age
forty one, Diminishing returns there with Albert Pooholes, and maybe

(01:29):
he closes up shop and he plays for two teams,
plays for the Cardinals, plays for the Angels. Other baseball,
you know, the Dodgers at a really rough week here,
Dustin May goes down out for the season. You lose
eight of ten. That's not what great teams do, and

(01:49):
they should be fine, but you still get somebody's attention
when you lose eight of ten. It's like the Nets
have lost four in a row. Now, we're not supposed
to notice anything here because once the playoffs start, they're
just going to turn on the light switch and they're
going to be ready to go. The Lakers. The Lakers,
are they in trouble? Well, there should be concern, and

(02:11):
no matter what happens during the regular season, the Lakers
and Nets seem to be holding strong. Is the Vegas
favorites here to win the title? McLevin sent me the
updated odds here. The Nets are the favorites right now,
followed by the Lakers, then the Clippers, Utah Jazz, the
Milwaukee Bucks, the seventy sixers. Then you have the Phoenix

(02:32):
Suns and the Denver Nuggets. Well, I would have question
marks with both of these teams, the Lakers and the Nets,
because I have to look at the health issue here,
like is Lebron's ankle going to be healthy enough? It's
not going to be healthy? Is it going to be
healthy enough? And all it takes is one moment where

(02:54):
you turn that. Anybody who's had ankle surgery or a
sprained ankle, you know what I'm talking about. You don't
know if it happens, when it happens, and how long
he would be out. Anthony Davis backs basms here, Dennis
Shrewder is out. You got to have everybody together, and
you've got to be playing well when you start these

(03:15):
playoffs because you can get knocked off and the Nets
the same way. And I look at the Nets. They
haven't played together. The Big Three's played seven games together.
As great as they are, you can't just say they
go out there and win games first round, okay, But
after that then you're going to see a quality opponent.

(03:38):
And what happens if you know one of the three
can't play. What if two of the three can't play
because Harden has been out? So okay, he's planning on
coming back the hamstring injury, all right, But what happens
if he tweaks the hamstring? Kevin Durant, what happens if
something you know, God forbid happens to him as well?

(03:58):
After the two favorites have a mix of teams that
are high up in the standings, but they haven't proved
anything in the postseason. You got the Clippers there, the Jazz,
the Nuggets, seventy Sixers, the Bucks Sons are moving up too.
But when you look at the whole list, it's it's
hard to avoid all the flaws here. The Clippers and
Jazz left a bad impression in last year's playoffs. The

(04:18):
Bucks have had two bad postseasons. The Sixers and Nuggets
feel unproven, and despite having Chris Paul, the Sons are
still young. You feel a little bit more comfortable betting
against all of those teams, but somebody's got to win it.
The question is they're going to be limping to the
finish line to win this title this year? Yes, McLevin.

(04:39):
I see the Nuggets are below right in this list,
the Suns and the Sixers and the Bucks. You know,
it feels like maybe a good bet, you know, get
some odds on there because they got to the finals
comfort finders last year. Yeah, sure, there any way to know.
You say, you don't have a strong feel like this
team's going to be gone around, No, because if the
Lakers are healthy in the Nets are healthier, then they're

(04:59):
playing for the championship. I truly feel that way, although
I do think the cohesive part of this, when you
go into the postseason you have played together, and the
Nets will not have that luxury. They're going to have
to win this with just playing. We got more talent
than you do. We got three guys who are better
than your entire team. You know, Steve Nash doesn't have

(05:23):
experience playing, you know, in these big games like he's played.
He hasn't coached in these big games. They should say,
but he hasn't been in the NBA Finals before. But
I think those are things you just have to if
you're handicapping this, like I doubt Lebron is going to
be completely healthy or one hundred percent or ninety percent

(05:44):
with this ankle. It just doesn't happen. That way, you're
going to have to manage his minutes, I think to
start out. But all it takes is just one moment
you roll that ankle again, and you're down for the count.
Anthony Davis, can you count on him to be healthy
for an entire series? I mean, really, you have to
be healthy for six weeks. Can he stay healthy? Can

(06:08):
the Nets stay healthy for six weeks? I think those
are really big question marks right now. And if you
said would you take those two? I would probably bet
against both of them making the NBA Finals. Yeah. Point,
Speaking of betting, this note just came out from a
yesterday from a Vegas online and in person bookie. The
Atlanta Hawks are the fifth seed their thirty seven to

(06:30):
thirty one. Nobody discusses them as even a contender. Really,
I don't think they get a lot of respect. Some
better put a twenty thousand dollars bet on the Atlanta
Hawks to win the Eastern Conference and twenty thousand dollars
bet in Atlanta Hawks to win the NBA title thirty
five to one. They would win two point eight million dollars.
But there's been more than just that. After that bet
came in a couple more bets came in heavy bets

(06:52):
like plus ten k on the Atlanta Hawks. And that's
just again a couple of people like three dudes within
and Casey dudes who have a lot of money, yeah,
and a lot of alcohol. Yeah, a lot of free
time here. But the Atlanta Hawks thirty seven to thirty
one to win, to win the NBA, win the conference.
That means, you know, get past the Nets, the Bucks,

(07:12):
the Sixers, and win the NBA title. They got both
bets around thirty five to one. Yeah, gutsy, it's it.
It doesn't sound smart now, but then that's where you
go in. The Atlanta Hawks are going to the NBA Finals. Yes,
it's terrible, but I can't get past the history of
them that they were always good but never great, like

(07:33):
the al Al Horford, Paul Millsap all good team of
the Hawks, like they've never breaked through. Dominique never broke through. Yeah,
I know, but it's not like you inherit that. It's
that that's complete. You. You inherit the perception that you
can't win, right, there's no reality. But I can't lose
that perception. Like Trey Young wasn't born when Dominique Wilkins

(07:54):
was playing. It's not like, hey, you guys can't win.
Remember when dominiqu couldn't get past the Celtics. Yeah, playing,
I was just thinking of my head, how could I
name five Atlanta Hawks. I'm glad I didn't try on air.
Their top scores are a trade young. Everyone knows John Collins,
Dame John Collins, DeAndre Hunter. Is that Virginia? Yeah, he's
out though, right. I think he got badly hurt. Bogdanovitch

(08:17):
one of the one of the boches, Clint Cappella hanging
out there a Cappella, Danilo Gallinari, great shooter. That's about it.
Got cam reddish coming out the belt. Don't you have
your guy? Yeah? Kevin Hurder, Yeah, Kevin Hurder. I read
that that b this Bogdanovitch is on fire, but I'm

(08:37):
not sure which Bogdanovitch is which Bogdanovitch are both Bogdanovitch
is really good? Uh yeah, yeah, what they are? If
your last name was Bogdanovitch, would you name your kid
Bogdon Yeah, of course, I know, because that seems like
you're really low on the creativity level. Just just take

(08:57):
half his last name and pop it in there. Well,
I know, so to get out of the hospital. Somebody
named their son his first name is Will. The last
name starts with Will, like Will Wilson. Will. Yeah. Yes,
Should we take a team flyer on an NBA team,
like a dark horse and put in collect some money
and do one of these big bets? If you could
win two point eight million. I don't know what team, yep,

(09:18):
but we're not putting in twenty thousand dollars. Could we
put a hundred on the Wizards or something crazy? I
don't know, Yeah, go ahead, put a hundy on there.
Not good money spent. Yeah, if you want to have
a team to root for, an underdog, a reason to
watch the Wizards. I wonder if you could better get
a prop bet like an eighth seed beating a one seed,

(09:39):
because if the Lakers dropped a little bit more, they
could end up there's a there's math that comes with
this new playoff system. The Lakers could play the Utah
Jazz in the first round of the playoffs. The Lakers
would almost be like an eighth seed if they fell
into that. Yeah, depending on so imagine the Utah Jazz.
I don't even know if they'd beat if the Lakers
were healthy with the jazz by favorite of the no Lakers. No,

(10:00):
that'd be wild. I'm an odd standpoint. Yeah, we've been
talking Mother's Day gifts. Mccluban needs some help, and uh
he asked us for advice. Yes, m yeah, I'm not
going to give her a one hundred hours ticket on
the Memphis Grizzlies. No, nothing says I love you quite
like a prop bed on the Grizzlies. Ian and New

(10:20):
York joins us on that topic. Ian, what's on your
mind today? Hey Dan, Hey guys, I need some I
need some help. I'm trying to I'm trying to create
a hierarchy of importance here between the wife, the mother
in law, and the mother. And I know the wife
comes first, but then who comes next? And then how
much can I spend? And can I give them the

(10:41):
same gift? No? No, Mom, so your wife, then your mom,
then your mother in law wife mom mother. Mom lives
across the country. Mother in law's local, so mom won't
see you. What mother in law gets that I make
any difference? Yes, that's key, that key because my mother
in law was right around the corner. My mom, meanwhile,

(11:03):
was in Ohio. Not that my mom didn't do like
some investigative work to find out what my mother in
law got, Like she would ask sources close to sources. Yes, right,
because if your mother in law says, you know, like, oh,
Jimmy bought me the most beautiful flowers ever, and then
your mom is like, oh, yeah, me too. You can't

(11:24):
have that. Yeah, I mean they do have like phones
and stuff, people text. Now, you know, it's not as like, oh,
don't worry about it. Mom's in California. She's never going
to find out. Yes, they do. California might as well
be a block away. They do. They have a way
of finding out. My mom would find out, and so
I always had to remind her, you know, Mom, that

(11:44):
condominium you live in I bought, So you're good, don't
worry about it. Like any vacation you take, I got you. Yeah,
but hey, if my mother in law got roses and
my mom got you know, an arrangement, you know, flower
arrangement to you know, be like did she get chocolates?
And I go, no, you got chocolates. Okay, Well, just

(12:07):
saying no, you're good, you're taking care of mom. You
got a shout out on a radio show. Okay, well
I know, but like it was never good enough for
my mom. She'd always say she always got well and
I go and whenever I got well, I knew I
was in trouble. Be like, uh, well, you know, I

(12:28):
remember a couple of years ago, you got me, You
and Dave got me a car. Yeah, you needed a car.
We bought a car. Well, okay, like, how long do
you have a car until you get a new car? Oh?
I don't know, Mom, you only put like five hundred
miles on it. Yeah, like you're you're you're good. Well,

(12:50):
I'm just saying. That was her way of She could
say whatever she wanted to say. But when you get
to a certain age, you can say it because you
just saying. I'm just saying, and nobody argues with somebody
who's that age. I loved having your mom in studio
because she was one of more truthful people I've ever known.
I would walk in she like, oh, time for a haircut,

(13:12):
and then she would say hello, good to see you, Paul.
But she'd open with time for a haircut. She gave
mclove and a comb. I didn't appreciate that like she
she she bought a comb. She kind of adopted me
as a fix her up for a project. She always
gave me advice. Yeah, I think I think she always
had a soft spot for you. I don't know why.

(13:33):
I'm good with grandmothers and mothers. I played at audience.
I think you're harmless looking. Yes, I think that's what
it is like. She my mom thought that you just
needed a little bit of help to, you know, kind
of maybe smooth out the rough edges. I would say
genuinely harmless to not just harmless. Look, not that any

(13:54):
of us come in here and looked terrified. But she
bought a comb because she said, um, I'd like to
go to the pharmacy. I said, okay, we'll go to pharmacy.
What do you need a comb? I said, a comb
for mclovin. And I go, okay, see brought comb man,
And first thing she did here mclumen's. They go okay, yeah,

(14:19):
um um uh great woman. Miss you. Jeff in California, Jeff,
welcome to the program. What do you have for me today? Uh?
I want to sell the mothers out there Happy Mother's Day.
Don't worry about the Dodgers or brother of them. Have
a slump now. Then later the Lakers out here, we

(14:41):
we have a red flag. We're not sure about them.
But my Mother's Day story is my wife, Uh you know,
she needed a new car. So I went out and uh,
you know, gotta use Honda for five you know, five
years old or you know. And and uh so I
hated at my neighbor's house down the street. And I

(15:03):
urge to the house on Mother's Day and uh, you know,
I'm like, going on, man, I'm gonna make you get
brownie points through this, right, I'm gonna mean I got
dinner from the next year in dessert. Right. And she
comes out, she looks at the car and she says,
I want something bigger. I'm going on, jeez. So I

(15:24):
had to put it on Craigslist the next week. All right, well,
thank you, Jeff, thank you. I think that car is
the least of her problems. I think Jeff's the problem.
He's gonna put all those stories all day. Get to it. Oh, Jeff,
there is an art to storytelling. Honey. At work, in

(15:44):
the lunch room, they changed the microwave to a bigger microwave.
You'll get I was talking to my daughter about this.
No fat, Jeff, there's there's somebody in the family tree
who is a horrible storyteller, horrible, and they'll go, um,
you know it was it was on a Monday? No, No,
is it two? Was it a two? What's it? No? No, no,

(16:05):
it's a Wednesday, like, and then they start to tell
you the story and you're just going, oh my god,
get to the story and then they get to the
payoff and there's no payoff, and but they've spent, like
and I found the sock and it was behind the dryer.
The cat had it. The cat had it. Oh okay,

(16:28):
Like nine minutes in, you're going, oh my god, yes
to So you don't like long winded stories where you
don't get to the point and are usually out of
left field. You're not into that people do that, Jeff,
and Detroit joins us, Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind?
What up though? And the champ Ate the Caesar on

(16:52):
all you guys. It's funny that you were talking to
a minute ago. Out of all of your guests. I
loved your mom. Your mom was so special to the
DP show. We all miss her. Man. She would get
on there and it would be the best segment ever.
Big hooks for me to you and my opinion, man,
Mother's Day is one of those days where you just

(17:13):
pull out all of the stops, do what you can
for your mom because you only get one and once
she's gone, you definitely miss it. And think about this fact.
If it wasn't for a woman, none of us would
exist on earth. And I think that's probably the most resting.
Thank you, Thank you, Jeff. Thank you. Have a great weekend, Jeff.
Thank you. My mom would time out how long her

(17:35):
segment was on the show because she wanted to know
if she got two segments, and so I had always
go I said, hey, Mom, we'll have you on. Well
is it going to be two segments? And I go,
let's just see how the first one goes, because if
you're not good, you know, then I don't want to
have you on the second segment. Well, I'll be good,

(17:58):
and I my mom, and my mom would get mad
at Paulie and she would go to him and say, um,
I I hope you have me down for two segments.
It's eleven twenty. Time to bring me in. And she'd
be in the green room. She'd walk out and go, no,
you're not coming out at the top of the hour.
Wait we got it's a build up. Well, I'm ready

(18:20):
right now, I said, no, no bringing out eleven twenty? Well,
am I doing two segments? No, you're doing one right now.
And then she would give a shout out to you know,
like uh Joanie and missus Pringle and and she go,
and I go, really, well, they're watching, and I go, okay,

(18:41):
all right, unique yeah, uh Todd, what does that? Huffing
and perfects? Okay? Do you want to end the week
with an Aaron Rodgers limerick? I would like to do
very well with the mothers though. Okay, it's pay less,
it's Rex Chapman's coming up, barbecue is coming up. What's

(19:02):
the big deal? It just seems like I've lost control
of this show. Okay, you guys want to take a vote.
Aaron Rodgers limerick by Todd Paullie. What's the goal of it?
What's it Todd? To get some air time? Right? I'm
okay with the limerick. We just put it on the newsletter.

(19:23):
Is it even news leather worthy? It's not, but I
know you gave time to it, and I actually think
your limericks are better than your mock headlines in your
sports your Mother's Day sports thing. I think there's a
compliment in there somewhere. You got to have given some
time to an hour one gas. But that's because he
knows how I'll get sent about that. Yeah, and he's
gonna take that into right in Mothers Day Weekend. Forty

(19:44):
minutes left from the shirts you dropped that Mother's Day Weekend.
Yeah you care? Yeah, I'm okay. All right, here's the
Aaron Rodgers limerick. And then we'll take a break. Aaron's
still feeling the shove. Now it's war. Don't look for
a dove says he's done with the pack and not
coming back. Oh why did they take Jordan Love? That's

(20:04):
the Aaron Rodgers limerick. I got a smattering from see
the ways got my back. It's usually mclovit in the
back Paul you on occasion. But see he'll do the
fake laugh for me. He'll give me a little applause.
I'll take that. I'll take what how about we take
a break? Does this make the newsletter or not? Necessarily
I'm gonna put it in the news laugh. By the way,
Todd doesn't new scoreboard today. Mario does it because Todd

(20:26):
was suspended for two days for screwing up the score.
I got some social media notes, which I should have done,
but I didn't that I should have appealed it and
pushed it back to a later date. And then maybe
I'm a judge. I'm like Goodell. I hand out the
punishment and then you go, I want to talk to somebody,
and then you walk in and then I'm there. You've decided, Yes, Paul,
we should put Fritzie's limerick in the booze letter. Oh

(20:49):
maybe even a snooze letter. Let banging up. Twenty twenty
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fast enough. Rex Chapman will join us on the other side.
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(22:17):
been Rex Chapman. He was a high school legend, legend
at Kentucky, played twelve years in the NBA, fell victim
to opioid and gambling addictions, which ultimately led to his
arrest in twenty fourteen, and since then, Rex has used
his platform to share his unique perspective on what professional
sports can push someone to become as well as overcome.

(22:41):
He's got a podcast, It's called Charges, and he has
a new guest every Tuesday, Metaworld piece Michael Vick, Ryan
Leaf athletes who have gotten in trouble with the law,
and Rex of course speaks firsthand with the knowledge of
that right to see a budding the one a podcast.
Look at you? Thanks buddy? Uh yeah, so much fun. Hey,

(23:03):
I've been waiting since eleven twenty Am I doing one
segment or two? What's going on? You're only my mom
got two segment tracks, not you. Do you remember when
you took that mug shot and you put that mug
shot attached it to your podcast just to let people know, Hey,
I've been there, I've been jailed. You know, I'm a

(23:26):
famous guy and I'm here getting a mug shot taken. Yeah, yes,
I remember it. The mug shot doesn't bother me so much.
I'm so vain. I'm just I'm just mad that I'm
so fat. And uh wait, that's what you think when
we see it, That's what I think immediately. But do

(23:46):
you think how like how big this is going to be,
that it's going to go national? Here? Yeah, you know,
the last honest to goodness, the last week has been
kind of difficult emotionally, just for me. I tried to
handle it the same way, just because I know all
of this stuff's going to be back out there, front
and center in the public again, and that's a little bit.

(24:09):
Uh it's unnerving, not only for me, but for my kids,
for my mom and dad, you know that have to
kind of rehash all of that stuff again. So from
that standpoint, But yeah, you're you're controlling it this time, yes, yes,
absolutely so. Uh you know, look, Dan, I've been I'm
thrilled to be you know where I am back here

(24:31):
and alive and and not on painkillers and and finding
you know, new things about life that that I like,
and uh yeah, I'm having a ball with it. The
I'm having to learn how to interview. You know, I
can be interviewed. I've done this. We and I you
and I texted about it a few weeks ago. I
don't know how to interview anybody, So I'm just winging it,

(24:53):
trying to be as vulnerable as I can be to
show them. Hey, you know, come on, give me, give
me what you were feeling in that moment you know
when you were at your worst, and my goodness, these
guys have really been willing to do that. I've been
really pleased so far. Are you revisiting though now you
say that it's gonna come up. But when you talk

(25:15):
to these athletes, are you does it force you to
kind of tell your story to them so they know, hey,
we're on common ground here. Luckily, so far everybody has
known my story. Um, you know I'm a little older. Yeah, yeah,
you don't have to tell me. Rex. You know that
I said that mug shot man, you look sad. Yeah. No,

(25:41):
I've reached out so far. I you know, I reached
out to Alan Iverson and Michael Vick and immediately they're like,
whatever you need, bro, I'm in so it. Ryan Leef,
same way it's been. It's just been fascinating. I think,
you know, I know when I did it, Uh, you know,
talked about it last week. There is when you're in
therapy and all that, it's cathartic a bit. And you

(26:05):
know the other part is, I know when I was
searching out there in the depths of my addiction and
all that, I was just looking for something, anything, any
kind of inspiration to show me that I could get
past it. And if if this something I say, or
something one of these guests says gets through to somebody
out there that can get some help, take some steps,

(26:26):
maybe they wouldn't have taken then A Okay, that's great.
Do you remember, like if you talk to somebody who's
you drugs, they get that first feeling like that first
and I don't know if you remember that first pain
killer where you went, oh wow, and if you have
a personality that you know, an addictive personality, like, do

(26:49):
you remember why you took it and what that feeling
was linked? I really do, because I didn't. I wasn't
a drinker. I wasn't a smoker even you know, all
through my career. If I went out and had a
beer the night before it game a dozen times in
my career, that sounds about right. I didn't. I wasn't
that guy. Now. I was always a basketball addict. I
was always a horse racing gambling addict. I was, you know,

(27:14):
bagg of jolly ranchers. Don't give me one, give me
all of them. I want all of them. And so
when I finished playing right away, I had an emergency
appen deck to me at the end of my last year,
and I was gonna stop playing after that. I wasn't
very good anymore. And a doctor got off the plane
and the doctor gave me oxyconton, and for whatever reason,

(27:35):
I filled it. I took it, and in two days, Dan,
I for real, I was in love. I felt I
felt like I was walking a couple inches off the ground.
I felt smarter, funnier, happier, more charismatic, better dad, better husband,
you know, and just a terrible slippery slope. Within eighteen months,

(27:57):
I was taking forty viking in a day and ten
oxy continentate, just chewing them up and eating them all
day long, just like they were candy. Thank goodness, I
didn't drink, or I for sure would be dead. So
I do remember it, and it was I was in love.
It was something that was bigger than me. Before, you know,
three weeks, I was no longer determining when I was

(28:17):
taking that medicine. The medicine was telling me, no, you
need me, you need me. But when did you know
or did you know now all of a sudden, like
I'm getting arrested for stealing Yeah jesus, uh yeah, I
mean at that point, you gotta know Uh, it was.
It was awful. You know. I've had two girls in

(28:39):
middle school to write out of out of high school.
Just the worst man, you know. So I'm I'm yeah,
I knew then. I knew before then. I've been in
rehab two other times before then. But at that point,
you know, I felt like I was at rock bottom.

(28:59):
I'm running low on drugs, I'm running low on money. Um,
but I was when I was with you one time. Yeah, yeah,
were firing at the horses? Were you? Were you high?
For sure? For sure? And that's the that's the part
about it, Dan, that uh with with painkillers, it's it's

(29:21):
sort of a perfect thing if you're a drug addict
because you don't smell like weed and you don't smell
like liquor. I would sweat a little bit more, a
lot more, but you can kind of blend into society.
Your decisions become worse and worse over time, your physical
and mental health becomes worse and worse over time. And
something had to happen to me. I I'm not I'm

(29:46):
not happy that what happened happened, but something had to
happen or I was gonna die. Yeah, you wouldn't be here, Rex,
I mean the embarrassment that was there, But now you're
gonna help so many people think. And that's why I
always loved talking to you, because people hear in your
voice that you're real and if you truly want to
help people, this is how you help people. I remember

(30:09):
Ryan Leaf would say the tip off was he would
start sweating, like I you know, being in a family
or a family tree that has you know, alcoholics, like
you always look at a tell like there's tells and
you could see and somebody's drinking. Oh that's just water,
it's not it's vodka. Like so you're you guys are
great liars, like great liars, and they have to be yeah, addiction,

(30:33):
you know. And then there there comes a point too
in all of that, and I know it did with
Ryan because I just talked to Ryan the other day.
You know, there becomes a point where you're you're getting
it from doctors, and back in the day, any doctor
would give it to you. If you just called up
a random doctor and name drop, yeah, I'm Ryan Leaf
or I'm Rex Chapman, they'd be like, oh, yeah, what
do you need and give your prescription. Now what happens

(30:54):
is pretty quickly. You can't keep up. The doctors can't
keep up. They start figuring out, you go to other doctors.
Pretty soon you run out of doctors because you need
so much, and then you go to drug dealers. And
that's what I was doing for oh Man a good
couple of years early on, just buying them off the street.
And the crazy part is that these illegal drugs, they're

(31:17):
not They come straight out of the back of the pharmacies.
That's where you find them. That's where you go buy
them from somebody inside. That's you know, working double time.
They're taking them out of the back and selling them
to somebody right out of the back of Oscos or
wherever the hell it is. I was worried problem when
I went through my knee surgeries. They gave me oxycon
when I had my name replaced and I and I

(31:39):
didn't take them like I was so worried to take good.
I didn't want to like them, and I knew I would,
and I purposely was like I got to get through
like a couple of days here that initial pain. But
you know that's good, Dan, I'm glad to hear you
did that. My mom had surgery knee surgery a little
while ago. And there's so many people that I know

(32:00):
present day, you know, living around me, friends that I
know that have pain, that constantly have three or four
pills in their pocket. They wouldn't think and they don't
classify themselves as addicts, as drug addicts or pill addicts
or whatever, but they're never without a handful of pills
in their pocket. And that's so many people, especially where

(32:21):
we grew up in Ohio and Kentucky and the Midwest
and South is just being ravaged by it. He's Rex Chapman,
former NBA player and Twitter legend. By the way, the
new podcast Now you do a great job on Twitter.
You're fun. The podcast is charges made its debut this week.
So Ryan Leaf Metaworld piece What did you so, Michael Vick?

(32:44):
Did you do that interview already? Haven't done it yet
to do it? Excited, really excited because I'm you know,
with these guys, I'm a big fan too. I'm a
big Michael Vick fan. I'm a big Ryan Leaf. I'm
a sports fan just like you guys. I remember Dan,
I say this real quick. You remember when we were young,
there was a big star played played at Ohio state.

(33:04):
I know you remember this arch Leaster and I just
thought he hung the moon, you know, quarterback, My goodness,
all American dude had a big time issue gambling, still does. Yes,
been in jail, in and out of jail, and I
thought back, I was like, man, I because I always wondered,
I was like, why don't you just stop gambling? The

(33:26):
little kid in me. You know, it would have been
beneficial for me to hear you interview arch Leaster back
in the day. You know. So I hope that us
interviewing Michael Vick and Pete Ron our test meta Standerford
our test. I guess now that you know somebody somewhere
is going to get something out of it that's relatable.
Sports is so relatable, and hopefully we can help some people.

(33:48):
The advice that I'll give you is ask open ended questions.
Short questions. Open ended questions get that person talking, and
I think once they get talking and then they establish
a comfort level like that, That's my goal every time
is get to the question because people want to hear
your answer and then let you talk and assume nothing.

(34:13):
Because I as many times as we've talked and I
might have answers, my audience might be hearing this for
the first time, and I don't want to cheat that,
you know that transaction there, But good luck with this. Thanks,
And I don't know that's uh, it's gonna be pretty cathartic.
I hope for you. How's your jumper? By the way,

(34:33):
when's the last time you shot hoops? It's been a
few months. Yeah, I shot outside with some kids up
the street not long ago. And I'm terrible. I'm just terrible.
You're not. I'm terrible. Uh, you know you gave me
some good advice there, Dan, I'm gonna give you something ready.
Don't don't sleep on John Calipari of the Lakers. That's

(34:54):
all I'm saying. All right, that's all I'm saying. Were
you yes, and yes I was high then. That was
April of twenty fourteen. So that so now that now

(35:18):
we know you were high when you when you put
that out there, port calla Perry. It's like, I'm not
going to the Lakers. Wait, yeah, Rex, rexnows he's plugged
into Kentucky. Oh what an idiot I might have said.
I think Rex must be high. And I didn't even
know you were high. I was just kidding Where can

(35:40):
people get the podcast? Are you anywhere man heart Radio? Okay,
Heart Radio, It's on iHeartRadio. It's anywhere, Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
find it anyway. Charges charges with Rex Chapman. Awesome, Thanks Budd,
stay in touch, Thanks Buddy. All right, look, well take
a break back after this. Thanks for listening to The
Dan Patrick Show podcast. Sure to catch us live every

(36:01):
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(36:22):
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(36:43):
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Thank you, thank you, thank you do something nice for them.
You know who I'm talking about. You last call for
phone calls? What we learn this day in sports history.

(37:04):
Try to get all that taken care of. And that
Tregger grill. Tyler did a great jump smoked meat loaf
on the Tregger grill and some tequila lime wings as well.
Well done Tyler, and Todd says that Tyler can't really
do anything. He's not talented at all. I did a
bad mouth him a little bit off the air. I'm

(37:28):
we're not eating now, I gotta wait. No, don't you want?
I just wallowed. I just wallowed. I know, but we
don't eat. It's bad etiquette. Yes it's not cool. Yeah,
but don't do that. You can you wait like ten minutes.
That's a lot to ask, and I will try to
wait ten y. Toddy eats on meat Friday like a
fireman who knows that the bell is gonna ring and
he's got four minutes to eat? Rush. What do I do?

(37:51):
I don't know. Like there's plenty out there. I think
that's what it is. I want to eat in fast.
I eat it. I want to make sure there's seconds
or something that must be what it is. Slow down,
try not to eat during the rest of the show.
All right, my willpower is not great with those things,
but I will do your best. I'm gonna do it.
Do your best. And by the way, it sounds that

(38:13):
food sounds. We were out on the patio here we
got a little grilling air and I was like, what
was that. It was like, Todd, I have some kind
of briefing nasal thing. It's a sleepapp near that sounds
that come out O this day in sports history, pol
got a bunch. Two thousand and six, Barry Bonds hit
his seven hundred and thirteenth home run, which had put

(38:33):
him one away from Babe Ruth. Uh. In eighty two
the US, the United States Federal Jury ruled the NFL
violated antitrust laws by preventing the Oakland Raiders moving to
Los Angeles. This, in a nutshell, opened the door for
the Raiders to go down to LA for the first time. Uh,
this is interesting. Nineteen twenty five, the Philadelphia Philly has
had their eighth game in a row postpone due to weather.

(38:55):
Eight straight days, that's it. What kind of weather was it? No?
They're soft back then? Was it snow? It could have been.
There has no explanation for whatsoever. They said it is
weather related. I'll put my people on. Doesn't it feel
like they would go? And you know this is why
those eight games were canceled. At least you would think

(39:17):
checking uh, Doug in New York? Hey dog, what's on
your mind today? Guys? They need some help. There's the
big fig all of this. Sunday's a mother's day, your
wife's fiftieth birthday? No mine? Oh well you know what
takes precedent of course, no mother's day. You know what

(39:38):
you do, Doug? You ignore your birthday? Oh yes? And
with Todd you have my sympathy. Thank you, just trying
to help, Doug. Don't make it about you, Doug. It's
mother's day. Birthday doesn't exist, No, no, no, nobody cares.
But it's a milestone birthday. If that doesn't factor it
at all. I said, it's a fiftieth. It's not like

(39:59):
forty three. It's exactly why why because it's a round number?
Is it anything different? It shouldn't be. But it sounds
like because if they make cards for specific years, if
they have a card for it, that Doug should have
preemptively announced. Well for my birthday week, Yeah, what I'd
like to do on Monday is go out to dinner.
We'll start simple. Then on Tuesday I'm gonna go play

(40:19):
around to golf with my friends. Yeah. My wife did
the birthday week and then I just said to her
last night, I said, we're not doing a mother's day week, right,
and she goes, why not? I go, okay, all right,
I just didn't know what your schedule included there. But yeah,
sounds great, honey, anything else, Yes, I have a bonus.

(40:39):
This day in sports history, all right, This day's sports history.
Nineteen ninety five. Reggie Miller scores eighteen eight points in
the last sixteen seconds. Pacers beat the Knicks eight points sixteen.
Regel will be with us on Monday. I wonder if
he celebrates that, But how would you would you celebrated
it in? Like, you know, how many seconds was it?

(41:01):
It was the last sixteen seconds of the game. It
was actually eight point nine seconds of game time. He
scored eight points. Yeah, you better believe he'll say something
about Spike Lee. Oh, that was a whole different NBA
back then, got Reggie you know, doing the you know,
the choking thing. You should see this guy watching the clip.

(41:22):
He's running around, bowing, waving. Oh man, he had to
drive you crazy. Like if he was playing against you,
you probably you know, wanted to knock him down. Let's
go around the room. What we learned on the program, Todd?
Did you learn anything today? I did learn a few things,
eating with my mouth clothes. When getting his mugshot taken
back in the day by police, rex Chapman was most

(41:44):
upset about how heavy he looked in the photop I
know That's what he said when I saw the podcast
and saw his face, and he goes, God, I just
hate that looks so fat. McLevin, you made an officially
you liked Todd's limericks more than its headlines these days. Yes,
like is a strong word, Seaton Connor. Rex Chapman was
actually high one telling us John Calipari is going to

(42:05):
the Lakers. Just the fact that we're both thinking the
same thing, because I'm thinking were you high? And then
he's thinking that I'm thinking were you high? When you
said John Calipari was going to be the next head
coach of the Lake. Yeah, that's funny, it was. That
was a great payoff, Paully, what did you learned? Usually
hate using this word. Rex Chapman was literally high when
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