May 10, 2021 • 44 mins
Ato Boldon talks to Dan about DK Metcalf running against professional track athletes. Ato says that there was not a lot he would change about DK's running style.
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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. More importantly,
I hope all the moms in your life had a
great weekend. Gangs, Oh here ready to go, best and
worst to the weekend, Get to your phone calls. Coming up,
we'll dive into dk Metcalf's performance over the weekend. Ran
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a ten to three one hundred meter dash. Otto Bolden,
NBC Sports NBC Olympics Track and Field analyst was on
the call, and Otto will join us coming up here
in a moment. Reggie Miller will join us. Coming up
next hour, we'll talk about Zion Williamson. Is he officiated
the way Shack was officiated? Zion's out for the year, well,
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Luca don Chick, is he complaining too much? And the
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listen on iHeartRadio Premier and Fox Sports Radio, The Dan
Patrick Show. Yes, McLellan. Okay, whose career would you rather have?
You saying Bolt or Tom Brady? We're up to seventy
percent now, Tom Brady, I would rather be the greatest
who's ever done something in a sport that people care
about as passionately as they do with the NFL. Now
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he's not famous worldwide as Usain Bolt is, but I
would rather be Tom Brady with seven Super Bowls. All Right,
you've got a few gold medals there, like, would you
rather be Usain Bold or Michael Phelps? Because Michael Phelps
has more medals than anybody in the history of the Olympics.
Would you rather be Michael Phelps or you saying Bolt? Yes, Paul,
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it does feel like Bolt's got greatest runner sprinter of
all time. Phelps has greatest Olympian of all time. Every
other sport they're well under It feels that way, But
it's swimming. Although we've we all swim and we all run.
But there's there's more prestige when you when you walk
into the room. If Michael Phelps walks into the room
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and you say Bolt walks into the room, who are
you more curious? About who would you like to talk to?
Probably you saying Bold, because what Bolt did imagine training
fifteen years to run nine seconds? That's what Bolt describes
his career as. My goal was to run nine seconds. Yes,
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mclem you're not gonna like my Michael Phelps take Okay,
Once you're the fastest swimmer, you win nine gold medals
because you're a faster swimmer than the other guys. Like,
it's basically one gold medal. That's how swimming. And the
other thing to do is swimming is not really open
to a lot of people, Like ask Pat forty, Like,
it's a very small subset of Americans who have access
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to that kind of training. Well, why am I asking
Pat forty? Oh he's his daughter. I'm sorry. Is like
Olympic level, so right, okay, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, horse races.
But I just feel like everybody can sprint, not everybody
can swim. Swimming is a very elite sport. Well, but
everybody does swim. You can swim. You may not get
that training. Doesn't mean you're going to get the training
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to you know, run in the Olympics. You have to
get training there as well. You have a certain country
who do you think it's bothered. More like if you
saying Bolt goes out to like a park and it's
just working out. You know, dopey dudes come up? Can
I raise Michael Phelps if he ever goes to a pool,
it must be insane. Yeah, some dope dagglos. Can we
do lap? They both get that. Tom Brady he doesn't
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get that when he's out. I still maintain that you
need to have a fantasy camp. And you saying Bolt
is going to be there, and so you get to
run against you saying Bolt. You know you're just imagine
the fantasy camp. You get a picture. Yeah, guys, guys,
who are you know? Forty years of age? Thirty years
of age? I think I suggested that to you, saying
bold a couple of years ago. He didn't take me
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up on it. Otto Bolden was there, watched DK Metcalf,
the Seattle Seahawks wide receiver, and ran at ten three.
Otto kind enough to join us? What did you expect
from DK Metcalf? OUTO? It changed over time when I
saw the play. Initially, I think I earned a lot
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of football fans by saying, okay, big deal, ten four
guy runs down ten six guy and America goes crazy,
fastest guy on the planet. And then I started listening
to people who I thought knew more than me, like Ronaldo,
Me and Maya for example. And you know, he was
a football player and he obviously had a world record
in the hurdles, and he said, oh, you know, DK
is gonna get destroy and I was like, wow, am
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I giving DK too much credit? So by time we
went on the air, I said, well, I don't know,
ten six, ten seven. If you told me this guy
was gonna run ten three, I'd have said no way,
But but he did. And I think he you know,
even though he crosses the line and last he was
the winner yesterday. Well, also, I'm looking at his form
out of the blocks, like, this is what you did
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for a living for a long time, and you analyze
this for a living. So if you're looking at his form,
what could you correct and what do you think is
actually possible for DK? Metcalf. I didn't see a lot
wrong with his form, I said. When I analyzed the
starting real time, I said, if you look at this video,
you wouldn't be able to tell Oh, yeah, there's the
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NFL wide receiver. He looked like a sprinter for most
of the race. One of the things that I said
before the gun went off is my concern is that
weight that he carries to be in an NFL wide receiver,
to have an NFL body is going to show up
at some point during the race. Well, it probably showed
up at about eighty and when everybody started to decelerate,
as all sprinters due towards the end of the race,
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he was decelerating a lot more than everybody else. He
probably could have hung on for maybe sixth or seven.
But no, his form I wouldn't change other than he
didn't relock. It probably as well as a as a
sprinter knows to relax because they know that fatigue is
going to come. But no, form wise, he was fine.
I remember Carl Lewis telling me this a couple of
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years ago. He said he knew that it was I
think forty four steps? Is that strides? Does that sound right? Yeah?
For Carl, he'd probably take forty four maybe even few.
Were you okay? And what did you saying Bolt take?
Usain was forty two and a half And what did
you use? How many strides? I was forty five forty
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six one A that day, what was your single best time?
Six right at four times? What is that feeling like?
You know what? Before I ran some ten, I had
a teammate who had run John's Leman would run nine
point nine. He was like, yeah, you know, it's like
you step into this whole dimension and you come on
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the other side and you're like, oh my gosh, you've
run under ten seconds. I mind you. When I ran
under ten, I was like, the eighth or ninth, try
to do it the first time I ran. The first
time I ran under ten seconds, which oh, by the way,
was at the mouth Tack relays where DT ran yesterday,
it felt like ten h five or ten ten and
he said, oh, you ran nine nine three, And I went, oh,
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that's it. Oh great, So it doesn't it doesn't feel
any different to you know, okay, any other good performance.
You know you've run fast, but there's no like, you know,
there's no sound barrier to go through. I got you
as one of the top fifteen. Top fifteen people walk
this earth who have run this fast. That's pretty cool.
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I think I'm in the top fiftee. I mean, you know, look,
you know you can't compare errors. It's like trying to
compare you know, guys who used to shoot the three
wells or what you know we see now in the NBA.
Um I think I'm I'm I'm up there still, But
um I think my I think my skill was being
able to run both one hundred and the two hundred
pretty well, Paulie, what do you have? Otto? What? What? What?
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What's his time? I got nine eighty six, but there's
only I got thirteen? Humans have ever run nine eighty
six or a flower? Oh well, so Dan, you're right,
I'm still in the top fifteen. Yeah, you should think
my job that an NBC, because I certainly should have
known that. I didn't think I was in the top fifteen.
If I thought maybe top twenty. If DK Metcalf called
you and said, give you some advice, and do you
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think I could actually do this and make the Olympic
team in four years? Oh? I think I think he'd
have a shot. The first thing is that he'd have
to be closer to two hundred pounds than two thirty five.
And you notice when Lewis Johnson asked him yesterday, so
you know, are you going to train more? Like He's like? Yo,
I got mini camps, but he knows, he knows who
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cuts the checks in his life. But yes, if he
called me and said in four years, um, I think
he'd have a legitimate shot because I think he I mean,
obviously he's a freak of an athlete because to carry
that weight for that far and run ten thirty six
having trained for what four or five months, I think
is so amazing. He'd have to lose a lot of
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weight and he'd have to really train hard, but he's
certainly he has a chop slow question. Would you rather
be Usain Bolt or Tom Brady have their careers? Oh wow?
I mean obviously my truck and field bias is going
to show you know what, they're both pretty equal because
both of that have one thing in common. I don't
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think anybody is going to doubt that they are the
greatest of all time in their sport and certainly in
sports period. So yeah, probably probably both. But I think
with both, somebody eventually comes along and will be faster
than him. I don't know when, but somebody will. It's
going to be really hard for somebody to come along
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and win seven Super Bowl. So I would rather be
Tom Brady. But I will say if you saying Bolt
was at a cocktail party, and so was Tom Brady.
I'm probably more curious about you saying Bolt in some
of the things that I could ask him. Well, I
would counted that dam by saying that it is good.
You know, everybody sprinting is not moped. So you see
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guys running like nine eight or nine seven to go, Well,
that stuck not too far off the records night, I
am saying to you gap. But the gap between what
they're running now at nine fifty eight and nineteen nineteen,
which are Bolts World records, and the gap between whoever
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has I don't know four or three Super Bowl rings
and Brady is about the same. So don't don't think
that the Bolts World records are going anywhere anytime soon.
It's going to be a long time before somebody gets
to trust me. Is there trash talking in sprinting? There
used to be in my era? This is the Kumbaya generation.
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They don't. They don't actually like each other, but they
pretend they do because it's the politically correct era. Um
I have to say, you know about you know, getting
back to DK. I looked yesterday and all weekends for
any sign of like superiority. Like he didn't walk into
this track meet, like, yeah, I'm the big Pro Bowl
wide receiver. You guys are near spitters. This guy was humble.
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He you know, he tried to assimilate. He didn't. He
didn't even leave after his heat. He stayed and watched
the entire meeting. Now, when my god, I'm a forty
Niners fan since I was born. It's against my religion
to like a Seahawk, But I'm gonna follow this guy
because I think I think he's a real I think
he's a fantastic kid. Are you Are you a Niners fan?
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I am a Niners fan. Grew up watching Montana to
Rice and Clark and everybody. Yes, Ronnie Lot, the whole deal.
Did you try to play football? You know what? I
moved here at fourteen. My high school, Jamaica High School,
which produced some guy named Bob Beamon, did not have
a football team. So I think at the time when
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I should have like maybe been pulled in that direction,
I didn't have anywhere to go, and I stayed in
soccer and then eventually went to Trump. If we ran
the one hundred meter today, what would you run? Yeah,
probably like eleven, one ten eleven. Oh yeah, so we're
about even. Oh yeah, it's great to catch up with
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you again. Otto, we appreciate your time. Thank you, hope
you have a great summer. You two guys. Always good
to be on with you. That's Otto Bolden, NBC Sports
Lead Track analyst, Olympic analyst and one of the top
fifteen times one hundred meter dash times in the history
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of the world. That's pretty impressive though, Like you still
have one of the top thirteen times in track history. Yeah. Yeah,
you go under nine nine, you go in a different category.
There's a lot of guys who are like in that
nine eight, but then nine to seven or lower. Yeah,
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you're down to six dudes. Yeah, and you. I'm always
curious the guy who can throw one hundred and five
miles an hour the guy who is going to have
to hit one hundred and five miles an hour. It
to me it's more impressive to try to hit one
oh five than to throw one oh five, even though
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there's only a couple of people have ever thrown it
that fast. But you know, it's not like they say,
I'm throwing one oh five right down the middle. You
know they're they're gonna be you know, setting up inside
outside high low, those kind of things. Yeah, poll, I'm
looking at the Remember we were on the air during
this time. When are you saying Bold won the gold
medal and won? I think it's Beijing. And he started
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celebrating at the eighty meter mark, he turned sideways and
stopped pumping his arms and looked to the crowd with
twenty meters to go. That was unbelievable. I mean he
left stuff on the table. People thought, yeah. I said
that at the time, like why wouldn't you run faster
to try to get a better time. And I had
guys in track and field to say, no, he was
winning the gold that the time didn't matter. It was
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more of look at me, like it was his look
at me moment. I yes, yeah, and then he just
like you shut it down. Alrighty, Bob Bafford's going to
join us coming up in about forty five minutes. We'll
talk about the Kentucky Derby situation as his horse, the
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horse that won the Kentucky Derby Medina's spirit has been
now suspended but not disqualified yet. Right, they're waiting for
that second blood test or second drug test the due process.
Here is that right scene? You know, I thought that
their statement was pretty harsh. It okay, it felt like that,
(15:08):
But I'm trying to figure out and I'm wondering if
I was reading it with that tone or if it
was actually that harsh, because part of me was like,
oh wait, you still have a B sample to test? Yeah,
what is this? You know, we absolutely don't condone that.
Of course you don't conduct cheating, but how did the
statement just seemed very heavy handed. I'm reading here it says,
even if Medina's spirit is ultimately disqualified, something that can
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only happen after a second positive test, paramutual wagering is
unlikely to be affected. Here. The last time a Derby
winner was dc for a positive drug test was nineteen
sixty eight. That was Dancer's image, well sixty eight that
the drugs back then. Yeah, well you know that was
the hate Asbury. I saw horses that were just there,
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that woodstock, you know, the Kentucky Derby. The Kentucky Horse
Racing Commission in nineteen sixty eight ordered forward pass the
horse that crossed the finish line second in the race
be considered the winner of the nineteen sixty eight Kentucky
Derby except for the betting, so the runner up Mandloon
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would then be the Kentucky Derby winner. You just couldn't
cash in on that if you bet on that horse
and that horse was twenty five to one. Let's get
a couple of phone calls here and then we'll take
a break. Yes, Polly and uh ninety seven Baffort had
a horse in the Derby and staying with a full
of steroids and it didn't get dqued. It's a different
times actually, not true, not true, Yeah, thank you. I
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don't want to get sued. I know this. The other
horse is a Polly Maxwell stephaline. You know, the longer,
the longer a drug, like the more trouble you're in,
the longer a drug. Yes, yeah, when you know beta
methodists seen Dunton, couldn't that horses muttered to severe plexarisis
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is cleared up horses wearing a tank top before the
race and Oakley's had like a tattoo around like a
band a run its arm. Yes. I looked up the
history of equine drug testing. It goes back to four
sixty BC, where some horses were fed human flesh to
run faster according to Wikipedia, and then real drug testings
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started in nineteen twenties in America. That's how they used
to give him cocaine and other stimulants to run. So
this has been around a whole century. Horse where you
say doping is a big deal, Yes, Polly, I think
that would work because I was a horse and I
saw that they're chopping up humans for to feed me.
What's gonna happen to me if I don't perform the
chopping up neck? Over there, somebody putting out lines and
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all of a sudden, come on over like, how did
you get him to snort it? That's what I want
to know. Gacked up on that, like, hey, everybody, let's
start eating the people. Imagine if it was pot I
got munchies, the race of be going out of you
sitting there in the stall, just chalked out, Hey, come on,
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let's go all right. It actually explains a lot more
why horses do that with their mouth like that. I
can't feel. Oh, these poor animals though, now they're mistreated.
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drop forty two and the Lakers beat the Suns. Luca
got tossed for hitting Colin Sexton right in the Sexton
and now he got it. He complains a lot Luca does. Now.
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Zion to me has a legitimate beef with the way
he's officiated. And I don't like that. My star player
is batable. And Luca seems to be baited a lot here,
and he's got what fifteen technicals and once it starts,
that's when they start to I mean, if I can
get my you know, the star player in his own
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head here. Remember Draymond Green, he was batable. Now his
job was also to bait you, but he was Patrick
Beverly's job is to bait you. There's certain players their
job is to bait you. Rajah Bell, They just you know,
Bruce Bowen, try to get under your skin here. Luca
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can't get involved in this. Marcus Smarts another one most
times getting their shot block this season. Ion Williamson got
his shot block one hundred and thirty one times this year.
But he's inside most points in the paint this season.
It's not Yannis, it's not the Joker, it's Zion. Zion
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has twelve hundred points in the paint. The Joker has
under a thousand, as does the Greek freak. Zion was
had a shot block one hundred thirty one times. And
then it's Colin Sexton with eighty seven and R. J.
Barrett with eighty two. Stat of the day, stat of
the day, that past stat of the day, stat of
the day. Dude comes that what stat of the day
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and he's out for the season with that broken ring finger.
But he's officiated differently. The last time you saw somebody
officiated like this, it was Shack And that's what you know.
The Pelicans have been saying front office coach, he's and
I will say Zion took the high road. He said,
I look forward to the day when I earned these calls.
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He didn't criticize and he didn't have to pay any
money here. But David Griffin, who is their president or
you know, one of their CEOs or GMS. He came
out and he got I think he got slapped for
fifty thousand dollars. But that's a smart fifty grand because
you want to back Zion, you want to be there
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with him and say, look, you're you're you know, officiated
in a different way, and he is because when you
watch Zion just wants to get If he gets the
shot up, gets it blocked, he's so quick at getting
back up again, and that's where he scores. So he
almost goes in going you may get it, but I'm
gonna get it again and I'm gonna score. And that's
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that's his mindset, that's the logic of you know, how
he goes about. He didn't get style points, he just
gets points. Yeah. Mclovin, maybe they need like an enforcer irridant. Yeah, yeah,
I wondered about that. Well, you're not going to find Rodman's. No,
he was just the best of what he did. He
was a he was a great player, and he was
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he was an irritant. He wasn't an enforcer because Dennis
didn't want to fight you. But there are guys who
like Rashid Wallace, you could get under his skin. Draymond,
you could get under his skin and then they were
a detriment to their team. Luca can't get he's can't
be drawn into this, like, he's got to be better
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about this now. I know he's young, but all right,
you're gonna get banged around. You're the star player. You
guys are gonna rough you up a little bit. But
I think you gotta what is he Toddy's uh the
executive vice president of basketball correct, Yeah, David Griffin, young poet.
If you look at zion second season, sixty one games played,
thirty three minutes a game, twenty seven and seven. Uh,
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nothing wrong. The Remember last year was all a lot
of managed minutes, a lot of no back to backs. Yeah,
that was this seemed to be a factor at all
this year he has he I didn't think he would
be this great this soon. And I even said this
when he was drafted. I said, if he can match
the numbers that Julius Randall puts up, I would be
thrilled with that. He's only twenty and Julius Randall, by
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the way, is a very good player. He's improved himself greatly,
and so that I wasn't that far off. But Zion
has out surpassed what I thought that he was able
to accomplish because he doesn't have that legitimate jumper. Now
it's a set shot, although you got to respect it
because you know he can get to the hoop on you.
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So you know, I'll let you take the shot. But
if he starts to hit that at a high percentage,
then he you know, he's just going to be unstoppable.
And he might be unstoppable now, I just don't know
if he has a go to move other than I
get in the paint and try to deal with It's
like Barkley, where you go, how is that guy at
that size doing those things? And there's a little bit
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of that when I watch a Zion. Yeah, POI and
Julius had a much slower start. Julius Randall his sec
and year in the league. In comparison to Zion's twenty
seven points, Julius Randall averaged eleven points, ten rebounds, started
sixty games, same as Zion at age twenty one. But
what is the averaging now because he's up to twenty
four points, eleven rebounds and seven assists. Yeah, So that's
what I said. If he can match what Julius Randall does,
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then I'd be thrilled. And he's pretty close to it.
Yea Levin, but I am seeing Randall one of these
seventy three names mentioned as who should be get MVP consideration.
Now that's a new thing this year. This guy should
get MVP consideration. Yeah, we have to limit it to
like three or four if we want to have this conversation.
It feels like there's fifteen guys up for the MVP.
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The Joker's winning the MVP. That's it. It's already done.
But if you want to include Chris Paul, great, if
you want to say his value to his team. Yes,
I have no problem with Ed, but you know, we
feel like the Jokers. He really that good. It's like
the European thing a little bit. Though. Well, I think
I think would be fine if Luca won the MVP.
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I think they have more of a problem. When you
watch the Joker, you just feel like you've seen this
guy before at the why where you go, yeah, yeah,
he seems pretty good fundamentally sound, and he passes and
can shoot yeah all right, yes, and he always looks
like he just got punched in the nose. His cheeks
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don't get flushed or anything, but just his nose gets
all right red, like he just took an elbow two
seconds for yes, clan, are you not tempted to make
a Steph Curry MVP case because you called it earlier
in the year and he's getting like much higher up
in the rankings. Now you got to make the playoffs.
I think. Look, he's to me every night like it's
been amazing. I mean, he's averaging almost thirty two points
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a game, but when you want, everybody knows he's going
to shoot, the degree of difficulty with Steph Curry nobody
is close to that. And you know what, PAULI said
something to me earlier this morning because he knows that
I'm fascinated with Steph Curry. He's at his best when
he dribbles more than ten dribbles. He shoots fifty two
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percent from three point range when he dribbles more than
ten times, Like he's got to get you off balance.
He doesn't do there's no catch and shoot. It's I
gotta get you off balance to get their shot on. Yes,
is this a reaction to when we had we had
Damian Lillard on last week? Was that last week two
weeks ago? Something like that, and he's talking about great
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shooters and quality of shots, and if he had gotten
easier looks like other people get than he would probably
Steph doesn't get easy looks. I mean Damian Lillard doesn't
get easy looks either. Clay Thompson gets good looks. He does,
but I mean Steph is step is fascinating. Then these
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aren't easy shot. It's not like you go, boy, that's
a that's a thirty five footer. That's a tough enough shot.
He's got two guys who were on him, shadowing him,
a guy who's obviously taller than him, and he just
he pulls and rips man. Yeah. Yeah, It's like Joe
Harris on the nets is leading the league at forty
eight percent from three, but I had to assume those
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are easier three ye yes, talk about catching shoot Joe
Harris would Hey, I got Kyrie Harden and Durant to
worry about. Depending on who's on the floor, I'll just
stand over here, maybe they'll forget about me. It's like, wait,
oh wait, who forgot Joe Harris is over there, and
then he can hit hit the three. Kurt and Ohio
Hi Kurt best and worst of the weekend. Hey Kurt, Hello, Hey,
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how are you doing good? Kurt? What do you have?
I'm gonna make it fast because I got him on
its best, best and best of the weekend, Best of
the weekend. Everybody up at the Ohio State University. My
girls just got out of her appointments. Cancer free, yea
yea yeah yeah. Yellow thing is finally watching sports on
TV and seeing fans back into stands. We might be
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getting back to normal. And I also wanted to touch
on you were talking about seeing these athletes racing person.
I was at the ninety six Olympics and I saw
the finals and watching Michael Johnson and these guys run.
It is insane to actually watch these people. To see
human being run that fast is absolutely amazing. And on
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the Bolt question, I would go with a Russain Bolt
because not only so you're the fastest person in the world.
He was beloved not only by his entire country, but
frankly a lot of the world was rooting through sain Bolt. Yeah,
I agree, I'm gonna go with I'd rather be the
(29:43):
fastest man in the world. All right, And congrats on
your daughter, Kurt, that's great news. Yeah, I said Tom
Brady because somebody eventually comes along, like there's a new
fastest guy in the world. He's not as fast as
you've seen Bolt, but there's a guy who's the fastest
guy in the world. I'm Brady is still the slowest quarterback,
but he is the best quarterback, and he's got seven
(30:06):
Super Bowls, So I no, it would be him, absolutely
all right. Best and worst of the weekend, Todd, I'm
gonna start with you back left, best and worst. Best
of the weekend. Russell Westbrook ties the Big oh Oscar
robertson Saturday night for most career triple doubles and then
leads them to victory of the Pacers and ot thirty
three points, nineteen boards fifteen. It says two blocks, including
(30:29):
a clinching block at the end of overtime. Worst of
the weekend the Nationals wasted grade outing by Max Scherz
or Yankees did him Saturday strikes out fourteen, gives up
only two hits and a walk. Pinstripes took at four
three and eleven. Scherzer joins Nolan Ryan, the Big Unit, Clemens,
and Pedro as the only pitchers to strike out ten
or more at least one hundred times McK lovin. My
best is the movie Nobody with Bob oden Kirk and
(30:52):
I is it on Netflix now Amazon Prime you can
rent it. I know, Oh it's not a Netflix movie.
I can't tell you anything about it without giving away
too much. Now understand that Bob Odenkirk better call Saul,
he actually had an intruder in his home in real life. Yeah,
and he encountered a real life situation here, and then
(31:14):
they made a movie out of it as well, and
you know it's funny about him. You know, better call
saw Bob Odkirk. He started out as a Saturday Night
Live writer and now he's an action here or what
a career. I really loved it. It was great. The
worst is I don't know if you guys saw the story.
So Francisco Lindor and Jeff McNeil and the nets I met, sorry,
got in a fight, and afterwards Lindora said that there
(31:36):
was a big hubbub because I saw a rat in
the hallway. And it turns out all indications are he
just made that up and they actually got two teammates
got in a fight that made up right after the game.
It's a most bizarre story, and they basically said, made
up the story of a giant possum or a rat
got into the clubhouse, but it really was they were
just getting in a fight. Oh you kind of had
to be there, I have, but you weren't there. I
(31:59):
wasn't there. I hate I kind of hate the match,
just like I hate the Nicks. It's a Philly fan thing.
I hate them Matts just trying to get them in there.
Thank you, mclov Seaton. Best and words of the weekend.
My best of the weekend is Bryson Deshambo thinking he
misses the cut, flies home, only hey, buddy, better turn
around and head back, and then he ends up winning
(32:20):
like two hundred and thirty grand or something like that. Yeah,
he had he had to rent a private plane to
fly back to the Wells Fargo. That was won by Rory.
That's pretty hilarious. And then my actually most fascinating of
the weekend is, I know we haven't really done much
on this story because it seems like it's dead, but
there's still three teams holding onto the super League in Europe.
(32:40):
Real Mad Juventus in Barcelona are still like, no, we're
full steam ahead, let's do this, that's fascinating. But their
fan bases don't have a problem with this. Um No,
I don't know. I think they probably do. I know
that a couple at least one of those clubs is
in real financial trouble. They have like some serious finances
all Paul Besty. Better Barcelona than some money, oh boy? Yeah,
(33:08):
well if you got a Liverpool of money, shall see
you there, man Chester. That was good. You're full. Yeah,
we were so funny. Yeah for ourselves, Yeah, no one else.
(33:30):
We're birminghamming it up the naven team Birmingham. Yes, Paul,
you've dived. The FCS playoffs, Dan South Dakota State thirty
thirty three over Delaware to make the final and then
a great game Sam Houston versus Jane Manson thirty eight
thirty five. So the final next week for her. Tune
in Skills two pm Eastern on five, sixteen May sixteen,
stop Dakota State versus Sam Houston for the FCS football title.
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this in Peter King's column this morning. He talked about
Deshaun Watson's next football team. He says if he's free
to play football unin bird by legal issues in twenty
(35:01):
twenty two, here are the odds on Deshaun Watson's next
football team. He's got a tie at the top two
teams three to one odds. Philadelphia a likely need, plus
Eagles are in a perfect position to deal with three
first round picks. Carolina is the other one. David Tepper
would find the resources to do a deal, and that
(35:23):
means you would have a one off with Sam Darnold
there in Carolina Washington. That's the team in my opinion,
because I think you're a great quarterback away from being
a great team. The major need is there, and so
would be the will to make a deal. Denver High
Stakes QB Division Broncos a distant fourth at that position.
(35:49):
Houston is next at eight to one, but he says
I can't see him staying. New Orleans also in there.
Miami is Why is it that we keep hearing Miami.
It's almost like San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo. Hey he's
our quarterback. Hey Tom do you want to come in?
Hey Aaron would you like to come in? Hey Trey Lance,
(36:10):
come on it. This is what we're doing with two
a tongue of Ioloa. I think he's only been there
a year plus. He was hurt by Joe Burrow and
Justin Herbert playing so well that I think the expectation
level has been ramped up. Minnesota. Peter has in there
as a long shot. I don't see that. I think
Kevin Mund makes more sense that you get a guy
(36:31):
on that rookie contract, Like I don't want to bring
in Watson, and then I also have to bring in
everything that goes along with that, including a salary that's
you know, forty some million dollars a year. Pittsburgh is
also in there as well. Yeah, yeah, Like the Eagles
are a rebuilding team. Why bring in a veteran quarterback
with that talent around them? Yeah, I see, Washington is
(36:53):
the team, that's my thought. Or Carolina, Yes, Paul, if
you're a Houston would you look to trade Watson? Now
you may get quite a bit, I think they are,
but for a good offer, or wait till the results
come out and roll the dice, because if the investigation
goes poorly, you're not gonna able to trade him for anything.
If it goes well for you and he's somehow cleared,
(37:13):
he's back for full price offers. Former player I spoke
with over the weekend and we got around we were
talking about other things, and he said, hey, do you
think Watson plays this year? And I said, yeah, I
get the feelings somewhere somehow he'll play. And then I
said how many? How many therapists. Did physical therapists masseuses
(37:37):
did you have in your career? And I think he
played eleven years. He said, I had the same physical therapist,
Masseus for seven years. He goes, I had three in
my entire career, and he said one was because one
went on maternity leave, and so I had really two
(38:00):
Masseuses there. He said that this doesn't make any sense
with Deshaun Watson, you know that. That's why he said,
even if he's not guilty of some he's guilty of
probably the others. Just doing the math here, he said,
it just doesn't make any sense. When you find a
great physical therapist, a massus, you don't let them go
(38:23):
like that's gold. Like you got to somebody who knows you,
You know them, you trust them, they trust you. And
he played eleven years and said, you know, even when
I after seven years, I was heartbroken that I had
to lose this therapist, this Masseus. But here's another story
(38:44):
that's gone quiet because these things have an eben of flow.
Like Deshaun Watson, Oh my gosh, now it's quiet, Russell Wilson,
Oh my gosh, quiet, Aaron Rodgers, Oh my gosh, quiet,
now that doesn't mean something doesn't happen. Russ seems like
he's fine in Seattle right now. Aaron Rodgers, it's just quiet.
(39:05):
I was told this that behind the scenes, it's quiet
for a reason that they're trying to work this out.
Whether it happens or not, I don't I don't know
who takes that first step. Does Rogers say I overreacted?
I don't see that. Do the Packers say, you know what,
(39:26):
we take the blame? You know? Does Brian Goodacounts come
out and say, look you I'll fall on the sword here.
I mean he may say privately, hey, we didn't do
anything wrong, but I'm going to do this. I mean
sometimes you do this, you know, when you're having an
argument with your wife, like you know, it's easier, it's
(39:46):
better if you somehow find some commonality and you figure
it out. You don't go to bed angry. But in
this situation, it's quiet, and I think that's that's positive.
If I'm a Packers fan, I think that's positive. Now
watch Aaron Rodgers say, there's no way you know I'm
coming back and trade me as soon as June first
(40:06):
rolls around. From what I was told it's quiet for
a reason, and that's a good thing. JJ and Oklahoma.
Hey JJ ABN, thanks for taking the call. Ye first
time long time six one saw two forty eight. Just
a couple of things on the Kentucky Derby. I'm a
(40:27):
retired racing official. So you guys are mentioning pre race testing.
It's very difficult to do. So how you do a
post race test as there are blood samples and urine
samples drawn, okay, and from those blood samples they do
what's called a mass spectrometry test, so they can test
for thousands of different tabolites within that test. And the
issue there is you just don't have enough time to
(40:49):
do a data test or anything like that. In the
case of the Medina spirit with a meta metozone, it's
a class form medication, meaning that it is allowed in
a horse's system, but there is a threshold level, which
is ten peko grands in the state of Kentucky. He
tested it twenty one. And this is a problem that
you have with horses. It's no different than humans. We
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metabolize different things in different rates, just like horses do.
So even though you had a withdrawal time, a scheduled
withdraw all time on this medication in order for it
to be out of the horse's system. Sometimes a horse
will metabolize it differently, which could be the situation here
with this horse. What question would you ask Bob Bafford. Um,
(41:31):
you know, that's a really good question. I would just
I mean, obviously, he said he's willing to turn over
the records to the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission. Um. I
haven't really thought about that. I do know that that
him at the zone he has had a mean tested
positive for before, like he mentioned with Pad forty. But yeah,
that's that's a that's a difficult question for me to
(41:52):
ask on what I would like to know from him.
From a betting perspective, you guys had mentioned that about
having the second place horse of twenty five to one.
It's no everyone the astros cheating scandal. I don't think
anybody cash on the Dodgers potential winning the World Series.
There some detend it's a paramutual sport, and because you're
betting against everybody else around you when you're not bending
against the house, it's really hard to go back and
(42:13):
adjust those payouts. JJ. Thank you, I appreciate your time.
Thanks for listening. Bob Bafford will join us coming up
top of the arm. He said, you know he hasn't
used that drug on this horse before, or you know
he didn't say, Hey, look we did this weeks ago
(42:34):
and it stayed in the horses system. Yeah, I think
I get paramutual now. That guy just explained it. You're
not betting as a house. Maybe you guys already knew this.
All the bets that come in the winnings are split
amongst the best, so that's why they can't refund it. Yeah,
I will find out. You know, how did we get
(42:54):
to this point with Bob Bafford? I mean, this is
that's the best trainer in history. How do we get here?
Are they going to take this Kentucky Derby title away? Also,
Reggie Miller will join We got a busy final hour.
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(43:14):
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listen on iHeartRadio Premier and Fox Sports Radio, The Dan
Patrick Show. Yes, McLellan. Okay, whose career would you rather have?
You saying Bolt or Tom Brady? We're up to seventy
percent now, Tom Brady, I would rather be the greatest
who's ever done something in a sport that people care
about as passionately as they do with the NFL. Now
(01:30):
he's not famous worldwide as Usain Bolt is, but I
would rather be Tom Brady with seven Super Bowls. All Right,
you've got a few gold medals there, like, would you
rather be Usain Bold or Michael Phelps? Because Michael Phelps
has more medals than anybody in the history of the Olympics.
Would you rather be Michael Phelps or you saying Bolt? Yes, Paul,
(01:51):
it does feel like Bolt's got greatest runner sprinter of
all time. Phelps has greatest Olympian of all time. Every
other sport they're well under It feels that way, But
it's swimming. Although we've we all swim and we all run.
But there's there's more prestige when you when you walk
into the room. If Michael Phelps walks into the room
(02:11):
and you say Bolt walks into the room, who are
you more curious? About who would you like to talk to?
Probably you saying Bold, because what Bolt did imagine training
fifteen years to run nine seconds? That's what Bolt describes
his career as. My goal was to run nine seconds. Yes,
(02:32):
mclem you're not gonna like my Michael Phelps take Okay,
Once you're the fastest swimmer, you win nine gold medals
because you're a faster swimmer than the other guys. Like,
it's basically one gold medal. That's how swimming. And the
other thing to do is swimming is not really open
to a lot of people, Like ask Pat forty, Like,
it's a very small subset of Americans who have access
(02:54):
to that kind of training. Well, why am I asking
Pat forty? Oh he's his daughter. I'm sorry. Is like
Olympic level, so right, okay, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, horse races.
But I just feel like everybody can sprint, not everybody
can swim. Swimming is a very elite sport. Well, but
everybody does swim. You can swim. You may not get
that training. Doesn't mean you're going to get the training
(03:16):
to you know, run in the Olympics. You have to
get training there as well. You have a certain country
who do you think it's bothered. More like if you
saying Bolt goes out to like a park and it's
just working out. You know, dopey dudes come up? Can
I raise Michael Phelps if he ever goes to a pool,
it must be insane. Yeah, some dope dagglos. Can we
do lap? They both get that. Tom Brady he doesn't
(03:38):
get that when he's out. I still maintain that you
need to have a fantasy camp. And you saying Bolt
is going to be there, and so you get to
run against you saying Bolt. You know you're just imagine
the fantasy camp. You get a picture. Yeah, guys, guys,
who are you know? Forty years of age? Thirty years
of age? I think I suggested that to you, saying
bold a couple of years ago. He didn't take me
(04:01):
up on it. Otto Bolden was there, watched DK Metcalf,
the Seattle Seahawks wide receiver, and ran at ten three.
Otto kind enough to join us? What did you expect
from DK Metcalf? OUTO? It changed over time when I
saw the play. Initially, I think I earned a lot
(04:23):
of football fans by saying, okay, big deal, ten four
guy runs down ten six guy and America goes crazy,
fastest guy on the planet. And then I started listening
to people who I thought knew more than me, like Ronaldo,
Me and Maya for example. And you know, he was
a football player and he obviously had a world record
in the hurdles, and he said, oh, you know, DK
is gonna get destroy and I was like, wow, am
(04:44):
I giving DK too much credit? So by time we
went on the air, I said, well, I don't know,
ten six, ten seven. If you told me this guy
was gonna run ten three, I'd have said no way,
But but he did. And I think he you know,
even though he crosses the line and last he was
the winner yesterday. Well, also, I'm looking at his form
out of the blocks, like, this is what you did
(05:06):
for a living for a long time, and you analyze
this for a living. So if you're looking at his form,
what could you correct and what do you think is
actually possible for DK? Metcalf. I didn't see a lot
wrong with his form, I said. When I analyzed the
starting real time, I said, if you look at this video,
you wouldn't be able to tell Oh, yeah, there's the
(05:27):
NFL wide receiver. He looked like a sprinter for most
of the race. One of the things that I said
before the gun went off is my concern is that
weight that he carries to be in an NFL wide receiver,
to have an NFL body is going to show up
at some point during the race. Well, it probably showed
up at about eighty and when everybody started to decelerate,
as all sprinters due towards the end of the race,
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he was decelerating a lot more than everybody else. He
probably could have hung on for maybe sixth or seven.
But no, his form I wouldn't change other than he
didn't relock. It probably as well as a as a
sprinter knows to relax because they know that fatigue is
going to come. But no, form wise, he was fine.
I remember Carl Lewis telling me this a couple of
(06:10):
years ago. He said he knew that it was I
think forty four steps? Is that strides? Does that sound right? Yeah?
For Carl, he'd probably take forty four maybe even few.
Were you okay? And what did you saying Bolt take?
Usain was forty two and a half And what did
you use? How many strides? I was forty five forty
(06:34):
six one A that day, what was your single best time?
Six right at four times? What is that feeling like?
You know what? Before I ran some ten, I had
a teammate who had run John's Leman would run nine
point nine. He was like, yeah, you know, it's like
you step into this whole dimension and you come on
(06:57):
the other side and you're like, oh my gosh, you've
run under ten seconds. I mind you. When I ran
under ten, I was like, the eighth or ninth, try
to do it the first time I ran. The first
time I ran under ten seconds, which oh, by the way,
was at the mouth Tack relays where DT ran yesterday,
it felt like ten h five or ten ten and
he said, oh, you ran nine nine three, And I went, oh,
(07:18):
that's it. Oh great, So it doesn't it doesn't feel
any different to you know, okay, any other good performance.
You know you've run fast, but there's no like, you know,
there's no sound barrier to go through. I got you
as one of the top fifteen. Top fifteen people walk
this earth who have run this fast. That's pretty cool.
(07:44):
I think I'm in the top fiftee. I mean, you know, look,
you know you can't compare errors. It's like trying to
compare you know, guys who used to shoot the three
wells or what you know we see now in the NBA.
Um I think I'm I'm I'm up there still, But
um I think my I think my skill was being
able to run both one hundred and the two hundred
pretty well, Paulie, what do you have? Otto? What? What? What?
(08:07):
What's his time? I got nine eighty six, but there's
only I got thirteen? Humans have ever run nine eighty
six or a flower? Oh well, so Dan, you're right,
I'm still in the top fifteen. Yeah, you should think
my job that an NBC, because I certainly should have
known that. I didn't think I was in the top fifteen.
If I thought maybe top twenty. If DK Metcalf called
you and said, give you some advice, and do you
(08:29):
think I could actually do this and make the Olympic
team in four years? Oh? I think I think he'd
have a shot. The first thing is that he'd have
to be closer to two hundred pounds than two thirty five.
And you notice when Lewis Johnson asked him yesterday, so
you know, are you going to train more? Like He's like? Yo,
I got mini camps, but he knows, he knows who
(08:53):
cuts the checks in his life. But yes, if he
called me and said in four years, um, I think
he'd have a legitimate shot because I think he I mean,
obviously he's a freak of an athlete because to carry
that weight for that far and run ten thirty six
having trained for what four or five months, I think
is so amazing. He'd have to lose a lot of
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weight and he'd have to really train hard, but he's
certainly he has a chop slow question. Would you rather
be Usain Bolt or Tom Brady have their careers? Oh wow?
I mean obviously my truck and field bias is going
to show you know what, they're both pretty equal because
both of that have one thing in common. I don't
(09:36):
think anybody is going to doubt that they are the
greatest of all time in their sport and certainly in
sports period. So yeah, probably probably both. But I think
with both, somebody eventually comes along and will be faster
than him. I don't know when, but somebody will. It's
going to be really hard for somebody to come along
(09:59):
and win seven Super Bowl. So I would rather be
Tom Brady. But I will say if you saying Bolt
was at a cocktail party, and so was Tom Brady.
I'm probably more curious about you saying Bolt in some
of the things that I could ask him. Well, I
would counted that dam by saying that it is good.
You know, everybody sprinting is not moped. So you see
(10:22):
guys running like nine eight or nine seven to go, Well,
that stuck not too far off the records night, I
am saying to you gap. But the gap between what
they're running now at nine fifty eight and nineteen nineteen,
which are Bolts World records, and the gap between whoever
(10:43):
has I don't know four or three Super Bowl rings
and Brady is about the same. So don't don't think
that the Bolts World records are going anywhere anytime soon.
It's going to be a long time before somebody gets
to trust me. Is there trash talking in sprinting? There
used to be in my era? This is the Kumbaya generation.
(11:03):
They don't. They don't actually like each other, but they
pretend they do because it's the politically correct era. Um
I have to say, you know about you know, getting
back to DK. I looked yesterday and all weekends for
any sign of like superiority. Like he didn't walk into
this track meet, like, yeah, I'm the big Pro Bowl
wide receiver. You guys are near spitters. This guy was humble.
(11:28):
He you know, he tried to assimilate. He didn't. He
didn't even leave after his heat. He stayed and watched
the entire meeting. Now, when my god, I'm a forty
Niners fan since I was born. It's against my religion
to like a Seahawk, But I'm gonna follow this guy
because I think I think he's a real I think
he's a fantastic kid. Are you Are you a Niners fan?
(11:49):
I am a Niners fan. Grew up watching Montana to
Rice and Clark and everybody. Yes, Ronnie Lot, the whole deal.
Did you try to play football? You know what? I
moved here at fourteen. My high school, Jamaica High School,
which produced some guy named Bob Beamon, did not have
a football team. So I think at the time when
(12:10):
I should have like maybe been pulled in that direction,
I didn't have anywhere to go, and I stayed in
soccer and then eventually went to Trump. If we ran
the one hundred meter today, what would you run? Yeah,
probably like eleven, one ten eleven. Oh yeah, so we're
about even. Oh yeah, it's great to catch up with
(12:39):
you again. Otto, we appreciate your time. Thank you, hope
you have a great summer. You two guys. Always good
to be on with you. That's Otto Bolden, NBC Sports
Lead Track analyst, Olympic analyst and one of the top
fifteen times one hundred meter dash times in the history
(12:59):
of the world. That's pretty impressive though, Like you still
have one of the top thirteen times in track history. Yeah. Yeah,
you go under nine nine, you go in a different category.
There's a lot of guys who are like in that
nine eight, but then nine to seven or lower. Yeah,
(13:19):
you're down to six dudes. Yeah, and you. I'm always
curious the guy who can throw one hundred and five
miles an hour the guy who is going to have
to hit one hundred and five miles an hour. It
to me it's more impressive to try to hit one
oh five than to throw one oh five, even though
(13:40):
there's only a couple of people have ever thrown it
that fast. But you know, it's not like they say,
I'm throwing one oh five right down the middle. You
know they're they're gonna be you know, setting up inside
outside high low, those kind of things. Yeah, poll, I'm
looking at the Remember we were on the air during
this time. When are you saying Bold won the gold
medal and won? I think it's Beijing. And he started
(14:02):
celebrating at the eighty meter mark, he turned sideways and
stopped pumping his arms and looked to the crowd with
twenty meters to go. That was unbelievable. I mean he
left stuff on the table. People thought, yeah. I said
that at the time, like why wouldn't you run faster
to try to get a better time. And I had
guys in track and field to say, no, he was
winning the gold that the time didn't matter. It was
(14:25):
more of look at me, like it was his look
at me moment. I yes, yeah, and then he just
like you shut it down. Alrighty, Bob Bafford's going to
join us coming up in about forty five minutes. We'll
talk about the Kentucky Derby situation as his horse, the
(14:48):
horse that won the Kentucky Derby Medina's spirit has been
now suspended but not disqualified yet. Right, they're waiting for
that second blood test or second drug test the due process.
Here is that right scene? You know, I thought that
their statement was pretty harsh. It okay, it felt like that,
(15:08):
But I'm trying to figure out and I'm wondering if
I was reading it with that tone or if it
was actually that harsh, because part of me was like,
oh wait, you still have a B sample to test? Yeah,
what is this? You know, we absolutely don't condone that.
Of course you don't conduct cheating, but how did the
statement just seemed very heavy handed. I'm reading here it says,
even if Medina's spirit is ultimately disqualified, something that can
(15:31):
only happen after a second positive test, paramutual wagering is
unlikely to be affected. Here. The last time a Derby
winner was dc for a positive drug test was nineteen
sixty eight. That was Dancer's image, well sixty eight that
the drugs back then. Yeah, well you know that was
the hate Asbury. I saw horses that were just there,
(15:54):
that woodstock, you know, the Kentucky Derby. The Kentucky Horse
Racing Commission in nineteen sixty eight ordered forward pass the
horse that crossed the finish line second in the race
be considered the winner of the nineteen sixty eight Kentucky
Derby except for the betting, so the runner up Mandloon
(16:19):
would then be the Kentucky Derby winner. You just couldn't
cash in on that if you bet on that horse
and that horse was twenty five to one. Let's get
a couple of phone calls here and then we'll take
a break. Yes, Polly and uh ninety seven Baffort had
a horse in the Derby and staying with a full
of steroids and it didn't get dqued. It's a different
times actually, not true, not true, Yeah, thank you. I
(16:45):
don't want to get sued. I know this. The other
horse is a Polly Maxwell stephaline. You know, the longer,
the longer a drug, like the more trouble you're in,
the longer a drug. Yes, yeah, when you know beta
methodists seen Dunton, couldn't that horses muttered to severe plexarisis
(17:08):
is cleared up horses wearing a tank top before the
race and Oakley's had like a tattoo around like a
band a run its arm. Yes. I looked up the
history of equine drug testing. It goes back to four
sixty BC, where some horses were fed human flesh to
run faster according to Wikipedia, and then real drug testings
(17:30):
started in nineteen twenties in America. That's how they used
to give him cocaine and other stimulants to run. So
this has been around a whole century. Horse where you
say doping is a big deal, Yes, Polly, I think
that would work because I was a horse and I
saw that they're chopping up humans for to feed me.
What's gonna happen to me if I don't perform the
chopping up neck? Over there, somebody putting out lines and
(17:53):
all of a sudden, come on over like, how did
you get him to snort it? That's what I want
to know. Gacked up on that, like, hey, everybody, let's
start eating the people. Imagine if it was pot I
got munchies, the race of be going out of you
sitting there in the stall, just chalked out, Hey, come on,
(18:15):
let's go all right. It actually explains a lot more
why horses do that with their mouth like that. I
can't feel. Oh, these poor animals though, now they're mistreated.
All right, we'll take a break and then we'll come
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This from Sham's Lakers star Lebron James targeting Tuesday against
New York for a return to the lineup from that
(19:42):
sore ankle. Sources tell if not Tuesday Wednesday versus Houston
is possible, we'll talk to Reggie about that. Anthony Davis
drop forty two and the Lakers beat the Suns. Luca
got tossed for hitting Colin Sexton right in the Sexton
and now he got it. He complains a lot Luca does. Now.
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Zion to me has a legitimate beef with the way
he's officiated. And I don't like that. My star player
is batable. And Luca seems to be baited a lot here,
and he's got what fifteen technicals and once it starts,
that's when they start to I mean, if I can
get my you know, the star player in his own
(20:31):
head here. Remember Draymond Green, he was batable. Now his
job was also to bait you, but he was Patrick
Beverly's job is to bait you. There's certain players their
job is to bait you. Rajah Bell, They just you know,
Bruce Bowen, try to get under your skin here. Luca
(20:51):
can't get involved in this. Marcus Smarts another one most
times getting their shot block this season. Ion Williamson got
his shot block one hundred and thirty one times this year.
But he's inside most points in the paint this season.
It's not Yannis, it's not the Joker, it's Zion. Zion
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has twelve hundred points in the paint. The Joker has
under a thousand, as does the Greek freak. Zion was
had a shot block one hundred thirty one times. And
then it's Colin Sexton with eighty seven and R. J.
Barrett with eighty two. Stat of the day, stat of
the day, that past stat of the day, stat of
the day. Dude comes that what stat of the day
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and he's out for the season with that broken ring finger.
But he's officiated differently. The last time you saw somebody
officiated like this, it was Shack And that's what you know.
The Pelicans have been saying front office coach, he's and
I will say Zion took the high road. He said,
I look forward to the day when I earned these calls.
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He didn't criticize and he didn't have to pay any
money here. But David Griffin, who is their president or
you know, one of their CEOs or GMS. He came
out and he got I think he got slapped for
fifty thousand dollars. But that's a smart fifty grand because
you want to back Zion, you want to be there
(22:22):
with him and say, look, you're you're you know, officiated
in a different way, and he is because when you
watch Zion just wants to get If he gets the
shot up, gets it blocked, he's so quick at getting
back up again, and that's where he scores. So he
almost goes in going you may get it, but I'm
gonna get it again and I'm gonna score. And that's
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that's his mindset, that's the logic of you know, how
he goes about. He didn't get style points, he just
gets points. Yeah. Mclovin, maybe they need like an enforcer irridant. Yeah, yeah,
I wondered about that. Well, you're not going to find Rodman's. No,
he was just the best of what he did. He
was a he was a great player, and he was
(23:07):
he was an irritant. He wasn't an enforcer because Dennis
didn't want to fight you. But there are guys who
like Rashid Wallace, you could get under his skin. Draymond,
you could get under his skin and then they were
a detriment to their team. Luca can't get he's can't
be drawn into this, like, he's got to be better
(23:27):
about this now. I know he's young, but all right,
you're gonna get banged around. You're the star player. You
guys are gonna rough you up a little bit. But
I think you gotta what is he Toddy's uh the
executive vice president of basketball correct, Yeah, David Griffin, young poet.
If you look at zion second season, sixty one games played,
thirty three minutes a game, twenty seven and seven. Uh,
(23:51):
nothing wrong. The Remember last year was all a lot
of managed minutes, a lot of no back to backs. Yeah,
that was this seemed to be a factor at all
this year he has he I didn't think he would
be this great this soon. And I even said this
when he was drafted. I said, if he can match
the numbers that Julius Randall puts up, I would be
thrilled with that. He's only twenty and Julius Randall, by
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the way, is a very good player. He's improved himself greatly,
and so that I wasn't that far off. But Zion
has out surpassed what I thought that he was able
to accomplish because he doesn't have that legitimate jumper. Now
it's a set shot, although you got to respect it
because you know he can get to the hoop on you.
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So you know, I'll let you take the shot. But
if he starts to hit that at a high percentage,
then he you know, he's just going to be unstoppable.
And he might be unstoppable now, I just don't know
if he has a go to move other than I
get in the paint and try to deal with It's
like Barkley, where you go, how is that guy at
that size doing those things? And there's a little bit
(24:55):
of that when I watch a Zion. Yeah, POI and
Julius had a much slower start. Julius Randall his sec
and year in the league. In comparison to Zion's twenty
seven points, Julius Randall averaged eleven points, ten rebounds, started
sixty games, same as Zion at age twenty one. But
what is the averaging now because he's up to twenty
four points, eleven rebounds and seven assists. Yeah, So that's
what I said. If he can match what Julius Randall does,
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then I'd be thrilled. And he's pretty close to it.
Yea Levin, but I am seeing Randall one of these
seventy three names mentioned as who should be get MVP consideration.
Now that's a new thing this year. This guy should
get MVP consideration. Yeah, we have to limit it to
like three or four if we want to have this conversation.
It feels like there's fifteen guys up for the MVP.
(25:40):
The Joker's winning the MVP. That's it. It's already done.
But if you want to include Chris Paul, great, if
you want to say his value to his team. Yes,
I have no problem with Ed, but you know, we
feel like the Jokers. He really that good. It's like
the European thing a little bit. Though. Well, I think
I think would be fine if Luca won the MVP.
(26:02):
I think they have more of a problem. When you
watch the Joker, you just feel like you've seen this
guy before at the why where you go, yeah, yeah,
he seems pretty good fundamentally sound, and he passes and
can shoot yeah all right, yes, and he always looks
like he just got punched in the nose. His cheeks
(26:22):
don't get flushed or anything, but just his nose gets
all right red, like he just took an elbow two
seconds for yes, clan, are you not tempted to make
a Steph Curry MVP case because you called it earlier
in the year and he's getting like much higher up
in the rankings. Now you got to make the playoffs.
I think. Look, he's to me every night like it's
been amazing. I mean, he's averaging almost thirty two points
(26:45):
a game, but when you want, everybody knows he's going
to shoot, the degree of difficulty with Steph Curry nobody
is close to that. And you know what, PAULI said
something to me earlier this morning because he knows that
I'm fascinated with Steph Curry. He's at his best when
he dribbles more than ten dribbles. He shoots fifty two
(27:09):
percent from three point range when he dribbles more than
ten times, Like he's got to get you off balance.
He doesn't do there's no catch and shoot. It's I
gotta get you off balance to get their shot on. Yes,
is this a reaction to when we had we had
Damian Lillard on last week? Was that last week two
weeks ago? Something like that, and he's talking about great
(27:31):
shooters and quality of shots, and if he had gotten
easier looks like other people get than he would probably
Steph doesn't get easy looks. I mean Damian Lillard doesn't
get easy looks either. Clay Thompson gets good looks. He does,
but I mean Steph is step is fascinating. Then these
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aren't easy shot. It's not like you go, boy, that's
a that's a thirty five footer. That's a tough enough shot.
He's got two guys who were on him, shadowing him,
a guy who's obviously taller than him, and he just
he pulls and rips man. Yeah. Yeah, It's like Joe
Harris on the nets is leading the league at forty
eight percent from three, but I had to assume those
(28:13):
are easier three ye yes, talk about catching shoot Joe
Harris would Hey, I got Kyrie Harden and Durant to
worry about. Depending on who's on the floor, I'll just
stand over here, maybe they'll forget about me. It's like, wait,
oh wait, who forgot Joe Harris is over there, and
then he can hit hit the three. Kurt and Ohio
Hi Kurt best and worst of the weekend. Hey Kurt, Hello, Hey,
(28:41):
how are you doing good? Kurt? What do you have?
I'm gonna make it fast because I got him on
its best, best and best of the weekend, Best of
the weekend. Everybody up at the Ohio State University. My
girls just got out of her appointments. Cancer free, yea
yea yeah yeah. Yellow thing is finally watching sports on
TV and seeing fans back into stands. We might be
(29:02):
getting back to normal. And I also wanted to touch
on you were talking about seeing these athletes racing person.
I was at the ninety six Olympics and I saw
the finals and watching Michael Johnson and these guys run.
It is insane to actually watch these people. To see
human being run that fast is absolutely amazing. And on
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the Bolt question, I would go with a Russain Bolt
because not only so you're the fastest person in the world.
He was beloved not only by his entire country, but
frankly a lot of the world was rooting through sain Bolt. Yeah,
I agree, I'm gonna go with I'd rather be the
(29:43):
fastest man in the world. All right, And congrats on
your daughter, Kurt, that's great news. Yeah, I said Tom
Brady because somebody eventually comes along, like there's a new
fastest guy in the world. He's not as fast as
you've seen Bolt, but there's a guy who's the fastest
guy in the world. I'm Brady is still the slowest quarterback,
but he is the best quarterback, and he's got seven
(30:06):
Super Bowls, So I no, it would be him, absolutely
all right. Best and worst of the weekend, Todd, I'm
gonna start with you back left, best and worst. Best
of the weekend. Russell Westbrook ties the Big oh Oscar
robertson Saturday night for most career triple doubles and then
leads them to victory of the Pacers and ot thirty
three points, nineteen boards fifteen. It says two blocks, including
(30:29):
a clinching block at the end of overtime. Worst of
the weekend the Nationals wasted grade outing by Max Scherz
or Yankees did him Saturday strikes out fourteen, gives up
only two hits and a walk. Pinstripes took at four
three and eleven. Scherzer joins Nolan Ryan, the Big Unit, Clemens,
and Pedro as the only pitchers to strike out ten
or more at least one hundred times McK lovin. My
best is the movie Nobody with Bob oden Kirk and
(30:52):
I is it on Netflix now Amazon Prime you can
rent it. I know, Oh it's not a Netflix movie.
I can't tell you anything about it without giving away
too much. Now understand that Bob Odenkirk better call Saul,
he actually had an intruder in his home in real life. Yeah,
and he encountered a real life situation here, and then
(31:14):
they made a movie out of it as well, and
you know it's funny about him. You know, better call
saw Bob Odkirk. He started out as a Saturday Night
Live writer and now he's an action here or what
a career. I really loved it. It was great. The
worst is I don't know if you guys saw the story.
So Francisco Lindor and Jeff McNeil and the nets I met, sorry,
got in a fight, and afterwards Lindora said that there
(31:36):
was a big hubbub because I saw a rat in
the hallway. And it turns out all indications are he
just made that up and they actually got two teammates
got in a fight that made up right after the game.
It's a most bizarre story, and they basically said, made
up the story of a giant possum or a rat
got into the clubhouse, but it really was they were
just getting in a fight. Oh you kind of had
to be there, I have, but you weren't there. I
(31:59):
wasn't there. I hate I kind of hate the match,
just like I hate the Nicks. It's a Philly fan thing.
I hate them Matts just trying to get them in there.
Thank you, mclov Seaton. Best and words of the weekend.
My best of the weekend is Bryson Deshambo thinking he
misses the cut, flies home, only hey, buddy, better turn
around and head back, and then he ends up winning
(32:20):
like two hundred and thirty grand or something like that. Yeah,
he had he had to rent a private plane to
fly back to the Wells Fargo. That was won by Rory.
That's pretty hilarious. And then my actually most fascinating of
the weekend is, I know we haven't really done much
on this story because it seems like it's dead, but
there's still three teams holding onto the super League in Europe.
(32:40):
Real Mad Juventus in Barcelona are still like, no, we're
full steam ahead, let's do this, that's fascinating. But their
fan bases don't have a problem with this. Um No,
I don't know. I think they probably do. I know
that a couple at least one of those clubs is
in real financial trouble. They have like some serious finances
all Paul Besty. Better Barcelona than some money, oh boy? Yeah,
(33:08):
well if you got a Liverpool of money, shall see
you there, man Chester. That was good. You're full. Yeah,
we were so funny. Yeah for ourselves, Yeah, no one else.
(33:30):
We're birminghamming it up the naven team Birmingham. Yes, Paul,
you've dived. The FCS playoffs, Dan South Dakota State thirty
thirty three over Delaware to make the final and then
a great game Sam Houston versus Jane Manson thirty eight
thirty five. So the final next week for her. Tune
in Skills two pm Eastern on five, sixteen May sixteen,
stop Dakota State versus Sam Houston for the FCS football title.
(33:53):
We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up Bob
Bafford at the top of the hour here on The
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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I saw
this in Peter King's column this morning. He talked about
Deshaun Watson's next football team. He says if he's free
to play football unin bird by legal issues in twenty
(35:01):
twenty two, here are the odds on Deshaun Watson's next
football team. He's got a tie at the top two
teams three to one odds. Philadelphia a likely need, plus
Eagles are in a perfect position to deal with three
first round picks. Carolina is the other one. David Tepper
would find the resources to do a deal, and that
(35:23):
means you would have a one off with Sam Darnold
there in Carolina Washington. That's the team in my opinion,
because I think you're a great quarterback away from being
a great team. The major need is there, and so
would be the will to make a deal. Denver High
Stakes QB Division Broncos a distant fourth at that position.
(35:49):
Houston is next at eight to one, but he says
I can't see him staying. New Orleans also in there.
Miami is Why is it that we keep hearing Miami.
It's almost like San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo. Hey he's
our quarterback. Hey Tom do you want to come in?
Hey Aaron would you like to come in? Hey Trey Lance,
(36:10):
come on it. This is what we're doing with two
a tongue of Ioloa. I think he's only been there
a year plus. He was hurt by Joe Burrow and
Justin Herbert playing so well that I think the expectation
level has been ramped up. Minnesota. Peter has in there
as a long shot. I don't see that. I think
Kevin Mund makes more sense that you get a guy
(36:31):
on that rookie contract, Like I don't want to bring
in Watson, and then I also have to bring in
everything that goes along with that, including a salary that's
you know, forty some million dollars a year. Pittsburgh is
also in there as well. Yeah, yeah, Like the Eagles
are a rebuilding team. Why bring in a veteran quarterback
with that talent around them? Yeah, I see, Washington is
(36:53):
the team, that's my thought. Or Carolina, Yes, Paul, if
you're a Houston would you look to trade Watson? Now
you may get quite a bit, I think they are,
but for a good offer, or wait till the results
come out and roll the dice, because if the investigation
goes poorly, you're not gonna able to trade him for anything.
If it goes well for you and he's somehow cleared,
(37:13):
he's back for full price offers. Former player I spoke
with over the weekend and we got around we were
talking about other things, and he said, hey, do you
think Watson plays this year? And I said, yeah, I
get the feelings somewhere somehow he'll play. And then I
said how many? How many therapists. Did physical therapists masseuses
(37:37):
did you have in your career? And I think he
played eleven years. He said, I had the same physical therapist,
Masseus for seven years. He goes, I had three in
my entire career, and he said one was because one
went on maternity leave, and so I had really two
(38:00):
Masseuses there. He said that this doesn't make any sense
with Deshaun Watson, you know that. That's why he said,
even if he's not guilty of some he's guilty of
probably the others. Just doing the math here, he said,
it just doesn't make any sense. When you find a
great physical therapist, a massus, you don't let them go
(38:23):
like that's gold. Like you got to somebody who knows you,
You know them, you trust them, they trust you. And
he played eleven years and said, you know, even when
I after seven years, I was heartbroken that I had
to lose this therapist, this Masseus. But here's another story
(38:44):
that's gone quiet because these things have an eben of flow.
Like Deshaun Watson, Oh my gosh, now it's quiet, Russell Wilson,
Oh my gosh, quiet, Aaron Rodgers, Oh my gosh, quiet,
now that doesn't mean something doesn't happen. Russ seems like
he's fine in Seattle right now. Aaron Rodgers, it's just quiet.
(39:05):
I was told this that behind the scenes, it's quiet
for a reason that they're trying to work this out.
Whether it happens or not, I don't I don't know
who takes that first step. Does Rogers say I overreacted?
I don't see that. Do the Packers say, you know what,
(39:26):
we take the blame? You know? Does Brian Goodacounts come
out and say, look you I'll fall on the sword here.
I mean he may say privately, hey, we didn't do
anything wrong, but I'm going to do this. I mean
sometimes you do this, you know, when you're having an
argument with your wife, like you know, it's easier, it's
(39:46):
better if you somehow find some commonality and you figure
it out. You don't go to bed angry. But in
this situation, it's quiet, and I think that's that's positive.
If I'm a Packers fan, I think that's positive. Now
watch Aaron Rodgers say, there's no way you know I'm
coming back and trade me as soon as June first
(40:06):
rolls around. From what I was told it's quiet for
a reason, and that's a good thing. JJ and Oklahoma.
Hey JJ ABN, thanks for taking the call. Ye first
time long time six one saw two forty eight. Just
a couple of things on the Kentucky Derby. I'm a
(40:27):
retired racing official. So you guys are mentioning pre race testing.
It's very difficult to do. So how you do a
post race test as there are blood samples and urine
samples drawn, okay, and from those blood samples they do
what's called a mass spectrometry test, so they can test
for thousands of different tabolites within that test. And the
issue there is you just don't have enough time to
(40:49):
do a data test or anything like that. In the
case of the Medina spirit with a meta metozone, it's
a class form medication, meaning that it is allowed in
a horse's system, but there is a threshold level, which
is ten peko grands in the state of Kentucky. He
tested it twenty one. And this is a problem that
you have with horses. It's no different than humans. We
(41:10):
metabolize different things in different rates, just like horses do.
So even though you had a withdrawal time, a scheduled
withdraw all time on this medication in order for it
to be out of the horse's system. Sometimes a horse
will metabolize it differently, which could be the situation here
with this horse. What question would you ask Bob Bafford. Um,
(41:31):
you know, that's a really good question. I would just
I mean, obviously, he said he's willing to turn over
the records to the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission. Um. I
haven't really thought about that. I do know that that
him at the zone he has had a mean tested
positive for before, like he mentioned with Pad forty. But yeah,
that's that's a that's a difficult question for me to
(41:52):
ask on what I would like to know from him.
From a betting perspective, you guys had mentioned that about
having the second place horse of twenty five to one.
It's no everyone the astros cheating scandal. I don't think
anybody cash on the Dodgers potential winning the World Series.
There some detend it's a paramutual sport, and because you're
betting against everybody else around you when you're not bending
against the house, it's really hard to go back and
(42:13):
adjust those payouts. JJ. Thank you, I appreciate your time.
Thanks for listening. Bob Bafford will join us coming up
top of the arm. He said, you know he hasn't
used that drug on this horse before, or you know
he didn't say, Hey, look we did this weeks ago
(42:34):
and it stayed in the horses system. Yeah, I think
I get paramutual now. That guy just explained it. You're
not betting as a house. Maybe you guys already knew this.
All the bets that come in the winnings are split
amongst the best, so that's why they can't refund it. Yeah,
I will find out. You know, how did we get
(42:54):
to this point with Bob Bafford? I mean, this is
that's the best trainer in history. How do we get here?
Are they going to take this Kentucky Derby title away? Also,
Reggie Miller will join We got a busy final hour.
Regie will join us coming up as well. We'll take
(43:14):
a break the final hour on this Monday on the way,
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