May 10, 2021 • 44 mins
Bob Baffert talks to Dan about his horse testing positive for a banned substance during the Kentucky Derby. Bob says this is a mystery because this horse has never been treated with this illegal drug. Reggie Miller says he has never seen a shooter like Steph Curry. Reggie says put Steph in the top 3 for MVP because he is amazing.
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when you say, oh, who's your favorite? Well, they always
say all they all are. My mom would say my
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you get older, you can be more honest because you're
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got a busy hour here. Bob Bafford is set to
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join us and certainly in the crosshairs Kentucky Derby Champmadina's
spirit as well tested positive and now on the verge
of maybe being dcute, So Bob is set to join
us here momentarily. Reggie Miller will stop by. Are the
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Russell Westbrook is on the verge of setting very impressive mark,
at least I guess he is. He tied Oscar Robertson
for the most triple doubles in NBA history. I think
we're triple doubled out, but it's still a big deal.
He had thirty three nineteen and fifteen assists, two blocks
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and win over the Pacers. That's an incredible stat line.
But we've gotten used to this with Russell Westbrook. I
think we're comparing Russell to Russell and I'm talking about Westbrook.
Ever since he won the MVP in twenty seventeen, I
think we've viewed his accomplishments differently because, well, he hasn't
had much postseason success. And you can't say that he
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hasn't played with good players, because he has. And that's
the flaw. That's the one big flaw that I have
with Russ. He is fascinating if you're a fan of
the show, and you know, I've said that's one of
the guys that I would pay to watch. He dominates
the ball. But he's got he's got numbers here. I
don't care what your numbers are. I just want to know,
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Like I don't. I didn't care what Magic Johnson's numbers were.
I just knew, Okay, those night teen points and eleven assists,
they're gonna come when I need them the most. Not Hey,
I just roughed up Cleveland, Like, I want to know
what you're doing deep into the playoffs. And I think
that's if there's a knock on Russ, it's that Now
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he's not a good shooter, he's a scorer, but winning
a playoff series is something that is important, I think
for Russell Westbrook and I think they're a dangerous team,
believe it or not, because if you get Westbrook and
Bradley Beale, maybe you can make some magic happen in
the opening round. It feels like they would be a
tough out just because of those two. But the whole
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triple double, and I as amazing as it was, is
it just feel like, when's the last time you went, wow,
oh my god, you had a triple double. But you
know when he had over twenty rebounds, that's what caught
my eye. But you know, twenty four assists, Like these
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are crazy numbers. But if you look at the scoring,
scoring is up exponentially. If you're averaged in twenty four
to twenty five a game, Okay, like that used to
be a big deal. Not as much now. Yeah, point,
I was thinking about you just said Magic Johnson nineteen eleven.
You go back prime Magic Johnson with the Lakers. He
was averaging like seventeen and a half and thirteen, eighteen
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and twelve, eight, nineteen and twelve. Then when Cream left,
he kind of got up a little bit and there
was a season where average twenty four points and twelve
rebounds and six assists. But that was his best twenty
four points a game. Yeah, if someone's doing that today,
someoneould be like eighteen and twelve. They'd be considered a
really good point guard, but not a scoring punch. I
wonder how Magic would be viewed now, Like, how would
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his game be in today's game. You know, he'd be
shooting more threes, but he would average more assists. I mean,
he was just he walked on the floor and you
had a mismatch. That. That was what was great with Magic,
you know, when you there was a time, believe it
or not, where I said publicly I would take Magic
over Michael. And it's because I said, Magic is going
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to lead my team. He's gonna run my team. He's
my six nine point guard. Now it was Michael more talented, yeah,
more explosive, but man, there's there's something there. It was
something comforting knowing that your point guard was a you know,
could lead everybody. You could score if he had to.
Magic could dominate and didn't have to score, like Michael
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couldn't dominate if he if he didn't score, but Magic
could dominate. He could take over a game. Michael was
a great defender as well. Yes, mcglevan I always thought
Isaiah Thomas could have scored thirty a game if he wanted,
but he always put his game to the side to
help other guys. Whenever he did score a lot, I
think the track record is his team didn't win. Isaiah
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would have personal grudge matches. I think he had one
against John Stockton and he tried to embarrass John and
that's when Karl Malone hit him with the elbow. But
Isaiah would get into those one on one battles, and
I think he had a losing record when he was scoring,
you know, upwards of thirty or forty points in the game. Yeah, yeah,
and you're right, Isaiah Thomas. His second year in the league,
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he was twenty three points a game, which is pretty
high end back then. But then he kind of cooled
down to like twenty and ten, twenty and thirteen, but
he was always in that twenty and ten mix. Yeah.
But you know, Russell Westbrook has had a Hall of
Fame career and he's on the on the list top
five top five point guards of all time. We started
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the show, we talked a little bit about what's going
on with the Kentucky Derby winner. Medinas spirit accused of
using an anti inflammatory. Bob Bafford is the great trainer
for that horse and won a couple of triple crowns,
who won the Kentucky Derby seven times, and Bob joins us. Now, Bob,
thanks for joining us. What have you been accused of? Exactly,
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I've been accused of. The horse tests it pause for
a legal therapeutic medication. It's called beta metho zone and
it was twenty one pecograms, which is we call it
contaminant levels. Um, it's a pecogram. They're testing at these
really low levels the last few years, and so it's
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been a problem in racing. But the really troubling thing
is dan is that the horse has never been treated
with that specific drug. So we're we're at a loss
for words trying to figure out how he got got
contaminating because at those levels they call it contempnattion. Okay,
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once you find out what has happened, do you do
you know inventory with your staff where anybody could have
possibly administered this to this horse without your knowledge. Well,
usually it's that that specific drug is usually it can
be injectable, but the horse wasn't objected with that, So
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we're going through different We checked make sure that nobody
had any special creams. You know, I'm learning about it
right now, but nobody, nobody to handle the horse, that
handle a horse, had any creams or anything like that.
So we just don't know where this came from. Do
you think you've been sabotaged? I think I don't know
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if I was sabotage indirectly. I think it could have
been somebody handled this horse, touched it, because at those levels,
it's very minute. It's at a level that it wouldn't
affect the horse, and it's scary. There's scary levels because
I've had this problem before. When did you find out
that this inquiry was going on. I was on my
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way to California on was it Friday? Saturday? Saturday? I mean,
and I got a call from my assistant trainer, Jimmy
Barnes in the Louisville and he told me something horrible
has just happened. And I thought one of the horses
had gotten hurt, and he says, we've just been served
with our horse. Every horse tests a positive for beta
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methi zone and I immediately, you know, call the stewards
there and want to know what's going on. It's not
something's not right. It's got to be and I told
them they need to test, get hair samples immediately, Let's
get some DNA. This has to be a mistake. And
it still could be. I'm hoping it's a mistake. Maybe
it was a wrong horse or whatever. But uh, you know,
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it's something that I've got an investigation team working on it.
But it's horrible, man. It's something that I would you know,
it's I would never risk my reputation and I trained
for you know, the great horses, and I trained for
great clients. And it's just it doesn't make sense. But
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it's hard to you know, people in the horse industry
they understand, you know, it's BS, but not the public.
How beneficial would this drug be to that horse? At
that level? It had zero effect on the horse. We're
talking pego grams. It's like it's one pego gram is
a salt green. It's a billions of a gram. Are
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you going to run the horse in the Preakness. Well,
we're playing on it. We're waiting to hear from Freakness
came out with a statement. Churchill down came out with
a really harsh statement. Yeah, I was shocked by it
because you know, I think it was just a knee jerk,
cancel culture kind of reaction and they violated my due process.
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I mean this usually when these when you get a
positive van, it's it's supposed to be confidential, and they
wait for your split to come back and usually takes
a few weeks and then then they announced it. But
it leaked out immediately. I've had this happened to me
a couple of times. They just leaked out immediately. So
now I have to fight this in the public. When
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do you get the second result back? They usually come
It usually takes about three weeks for it to come back.
Three weeks, Yeah, that's it's a it's a very slow process.
But will the Preakness allow you if if they don't,
you don't have that second test back, Well, they should
allow me because the horse is not officially it's got
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to be it has to be confirmed there was a mistake.
So basically, they really can't, you know, they they can't.
They shouldn't, you know, keep them from running. Can you
sue to run in the Preakness? I think there's some
some we're looking at some avenues that you know, if
they do come up and say something. You know, we're
going to we're going to be aggressive here. But if
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if you talk to the casual sports fan here, Bob,
who doesn't know horse racing, they probably say, well, you've
got some priors here that that you've had other incidents
with horses. So what do you say to the casual
sports fan looking at them, or even people in the
horse racing industry here, that there have been other horses
who have failed drug tests. Well, I think a lot
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of them were just, uh, you know, mistakes like this
is from nineteen seventy one. You know, down the road.
I used to be a little sloppy and they were overages.
They weren't nothing really serious. And the last couple of
years I've had some like Justify was the big one.
He had he ingested scopolamine, which it comes into hay.
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I hadn't. I couldn't prevented that, and we resolved that
it was it was a bad headline. I had a
groom that urinated that he had COVID and he's getting
over he urinated in the stall, and the horse ate it.
It was a coughts medicine. We resolved that, you know,
things like that happened because they're testing at these really
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extremely low levels. This would not have been positive in California.
That's the thing with racing. It's not uniform, and they
just change these rules here in Kentucky because of that.
Because of those those levels, things can happen. Then in Arkansas,
I had litocame positive last year and one of my
the Arkansas Derby and another horse, and then we found
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out that we just resolved that because there was other
horses that tested positive in the Arkansas Derby that were
below the thresholds, so they got contamity within forty five
minutes of the race. So these things happened. But when
they're testing at this new level, they just started this
because everybody's like, you know, racing has been in this.
We've got to clean up the sport. And they've got
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this new Horse Racing Integrity Act. And I was one
of the guys first trainers behind it, so I think
it's good. Let's we need somebody, and I welcome like
a Travis Tigerant to come in and and see this
and to explain to the people. If we had them,
then the people say, well, you know, if they're looking
at it, we need people like from the outside looking
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in because the regulators that we have right now, they
just don't use common sense. You know, it's getting really bad.
Where's the horse right now? The horse is actually in
a van headed to Preakness to Pinlico. We usually fly
them there, but the the the cargo company just lost
or leave, so, uh so they had a man there
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for the first time I've ever van. There's I think
it takes about ten hours. Is there sabotage though in
the industry, like you're you're saying, you could be, I
guess there people Are there people out there that are
that are trying to taint these these drug chests. I'm
starting to I've never been a conspiracy theorist, but I'm
starting to suspect it's been happening to me on the
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big day, you know, and so and we have really
we have the security, we're watching them. I mean, these
horses live, they don't live in a boat. You know,
their environment. There's their stalls, it's open, you know, it's
people can walk through, and you know anytime we don't
really you know, we're not thinking, but it's just it
just seems really strange now that here's a horse that
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didn't get that specific drug. He was not treated with that,
and it's uh, you know, it's it's that's where that's
mind boggling right there, that somebody either how to contaminate
him somewhere. So we just don't know that. I hate
to speculate, but we don't know. What do you think
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happens today? What are you working on today? Today? We're
working on on Maryland. Like the Preakness. We're trying to
figure out they're going to have the draw they're supposed to.
I guess notify me. I haven't been told anything, you know.
I just know what you what we read. So I'm
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just waiting to hear my I have my lawyers, you know,
watching it closely what's going on. And so that's all
we do is sit and wait. If officials are watching
right now from the Derby or Preakness, what would you
say to them? I would say, you know, I didn't
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I didn't administer that. The horse didn't get my I'm
an open book. I'm a Hall of Fame trainer. I
had a lot of success and a lot of people
are out there, you know, just they don't like it.
You know, that's part of the part of the game.
I understand it, but I didn't do it. And it's
just it's they need to look at this in a
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different way. It shouldn't have been called a positive and
they know it's a contaminant level. And we've been dealing
with this and I keep saying, you know, racing has
a lot of problems with Bob Bafford isn't one of them.
But you know, with success comes a lot of jealousy
and animosity. And uh, but I'm an open book. I'm
gonna I'm very transparent. They look at all the bed records,
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We present everything to them. I've never were an open book. Bob,
thanks for joining us, Good luck with the challenge. There
will certainly be watching. We appreciate your time. Thank you. Man.
That's Bob Baffert, the Hall of Fame trainer and still
waiting to see if they'll be able to enter the
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horse at the Preakness. You just got to sit and wait.
Very interesting race this weekend. If or if not, Reggie
Miller will join us coming up here. Yeah, Paul, this
is a tough one because if it's going to take
three weeks to find out if the result is right
or wrong, do you not let the horse but don
a spirit race this weekend or let it race well
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if you want attention to the race. But then you
run the risk of do you then have another situation
where you've won two legs of the triple crown and
now you know you may have to take away two
things here and vice versa that you didn't let an
innocent horse and training staff compete. All right, let me
take a break. Reggie Miller in the on deck circle.
Talk to Reggie, will take a break. It's nineteen after
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less after having Bob Bafford on, but that's a full denial,
that's for sure. Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer Turner
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Sports is not going to know what game Reggie's gonna
have until later today, So we'll just have to sit
here and wait with Reggie to find out where he's
going to be coming up here. How was the weekend?
Happy belated mother Day? Yeah, you and yours and all
my dan nettes and everyone our viewers watching or listening
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abroad and at home. Yeah, any Mother's Day. Yeah, well,
because you got the newborn there, so didnt need just
that bit extra special to celebrate Mother's Day. I'm very lucky.
I got a couple of questions here. Let me start
with Steph. Something that you are well versed in these shots.
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Degree of difficulty here, Regie like, it's hard to say that.
I'm I'm surprised, you're amazed. When I tune in to
see Steff, I would have thought I've seen everything. How
how do you describe this run that he's had here
in the last month or so. I'm surprised and amazed,
That's what I'm going to say. And this is coming
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from a guy who I felt that I've seen everything. Yeah,
and I agree with you. The degree of difficulty and
timed and score when he's making some of these shots,
it's sometimes head scratching. And you know, for a guy
who put a lot of time and effort into my craft,
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hours and hours in the gyms, shooting different shots from
different locations, you know, being off balance, having contact shooting shots,
I know how difficult it can be. He has made
it look like it's like he's shooting a free throw.
And that's what makes people like myself somewhat amazed because
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I know how difficult it is, so I am amazed
and people ask me about MVPs. He won't win the MVP,
but in my opinion, he should be in the top
He should be in the top three from what he
has done and what Golden State has done. No one
really has, especially when Clay went down, everyone thought this
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was a straight line to the lottery. Once again, give
Steve Kerr and staff credit, and I give Draymond Green
and especially Steph Curry a lot of credit for hanging
in there playing with a young team. You lose your
second round draft pick James Wiseman a month and a
half ago, and you have still found a way to
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be competitive and you're in the playoff hunt. It's amazing
what he is doing. And if you get in that
play in game with the Lakers, like that's really flirting
with danger. If you're the Lakers, it is, you know,
because if a player like step yes, you can get
hot and it doesn't matter to be at home or
on the road. His ability to make shots okay, but
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the Lakers take down the Suns. I don't know how
important that game is. I don't know how big it
was to you, but just you know, we keep thinking
that the Lakers and Nets just go into the playoffs
and then everything's going to be fine. You've had it,
I'm guessing an injured ankle before like those don't ever,
it doesn't feel like they go away. And all it
takes is you roll the ankle again, or you know,
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Anthony Davis gets injured again and then you're out for
three or four games, and that's that's how you get
knocked off here. You want rhythm and chemistry at this
time of year, especially going into the playoffs, and let's
face it, injuries are a part of the game. We
get it. And I look at Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They
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got right. They got healthy at the right time towards
the end of the season when everyone was getting banged up.
Tom Brady and his gang of Warriors got right, got
healthy and started to click and play at the right time,
and onto the Super Bowl and they win it. And
it's not a light switch. Basketball is not a light
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switch you can turn on and turn off. You have
great talent, don't get me wrong. That's Lakers when whole
when healthy. My opinion, they're the two favorites, but you've
got to have some type of rhythm and you've got
to have some type of chemistry going into the playoffs.
I think it was a huge win for the Lakers
for their psyche because everyone's talking about playing and I
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still think once Lebron comes back, they will be better.
But it's not a light switch. And like you said,
you were messing with danger because of the way Step
if they end up playing Golden State in that playing game,
remember I mean that one loss at that can prove
a lot of things, and Step can get hot and
put up fifty on you in a heartbeat. So you've
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got to be careful and you've got to try to
find a way to get that rhythm and chemistry going.
We were talking about Russell Westbrook that he's on the
verge of breaking Oscars record for triple doubles in a career.
I was wondering how Magic Johnson would be in today's NBA.
Oh my god, but maybe shooting more threes though right
Red she'd be shooting that set shot three. He probably
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would be, But think about that at six nine six
nine point guard, when there's no hand checking and freedom
of movement. That's the two things taken from the eighties
and nineties basketball versus the two thousands. Freedom of movement,
being able to know, not hand check, and you could
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float anywhere you want. Magic Johnathan playing downhill every time
there's a miss shot. I think he would have been brilliant. Yeah,
because he had a couple of years I think mostly average,
like twenty four one year when Kareem was gone, but
he was like a nineteen points eleven assists guy. And
that's where we get caught up in stats and people say,
you know, Russell Westbrook is maybe the second or third
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greatest point guard of all time. I want to know
what my point guard does when I need him to do.
You know what it is a point guard is supposed
to do. John Stockton, you know what did he average fifteen,
fourteen or sixteen? Yeah? Like, but what did he do
when he needed to do it? That's what Russell hasn't
given us. Westbrook is a you know, statistical anomaly. It's
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just when he's been on a big stage, he hasn't performed.
That's where I always say, that's the difference in being
a great point guard and one of the all time
great point guards. Russ is fascinating to watch, but can
you do this on a big stage? And maybe the
pressure is off because Washington is not a great team
or high expectations, But him and Bradley Beale in a
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short series they could be I mean, they could probably
you know, steal a series from somebody. Hard out, hard
out with those two guys, because both guys they can
win you ball games and it's always going to be
a dog fight in a struggle. And like you know,
people always want to knock Russell because of the triple doubles,
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you know, and it's almost what have you done for
me lately? We know that you're putting up these numbers,
but you're in the ninth or tenth spot in the East.
But I say that to these people, I wouldn't much
rather want to have a guy who's ready to run
through a brick wall like Russell Westbrook, who gives you
effort on every single play. Does he have flaws, absolutely,
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but playing hard is the number one thing that you
don't see a lot of great players do. A lot
of great players have talent, but they don't play hard
all the time. And it's true, Russ plays too hard.
Sometimes he plays too hard, Right, he plays too hard.
I know I wouldn't my frather have Russ Westbrook. Then
a lot of these other guys that take plays off.
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He's Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer, Turner's sports NBA
analyst the Pelicans, David Griffin got find fifty thousand dollars
talking about how Zion is officiated. And I gave a
couple of stats here on him that nobody has had
their shot block more than Zion one hundred thirty one times.
He said, a shot block this year, but nobody scores
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more in the paint, like he's three hundred points, I think,
more than the Joker and the Greek freak. So he
gets in like he's a smaller version of Shack. I
don't think they know how to officiate him here, reg
But Zion, to his credit, did say I hope I
get to the point where I get those calls. He
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didn't criticize the official. Now he's got a broken finger here.
How do you officiate him? And is it similar to
the way Shack was officiated? Somewhat similar? I think with Shack,
Shack was so much bigger than everyone else and so
much more powerful. It almost wasn't fair. And I think
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what David Griffin and the Pelicans, and to Zion's credit,
what they're doing, it's just planning a seed for years
to come because until he develops that outside jump shot.
And you and I we've talked about this on this
show many of times. If they can't solve what he's
doing in the pain, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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And I think all he wants to do is plant
seeds and the official until he gets a jump shot,
because that's the only way really he's scoring is in
the pain, and that's driving. And the reason why he
gets his shot block the most is because that's where
his bread and butter is, that's where his candy land
is is in the pain. So of course he's going
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to get his shot blocked more because he's not taking
jump shots. He's shooting in the pain. And I wonder
what would what would you tell him to work? I
would have him number one, a face up from fifteen
to eighteen feet, a catch and a couple of jab
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steps to freeze the defense and to knock down that shot,
or a wonderable left or a wonderable right pull up
jump shot, because then you're gonna have the defense guessing.
Because after that, we've seen his first step. His first
step is unbelievable. We've seen his spin move. After his
first he likes to go left spin and then bringing
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up you know, the arms up. That's probably where you
got a broken finger because he exposes the ball. What
I would do one dribble pull up left, won dribble
pull up right. Now you keep the defense guessing. Now
you can work on your spin move and you have
a defense at your mercy. We also talked about Luca
Dunchick that he got tossed, you know, in the game
(29:53):
against Cleveland for the flagrant. But the technicals are a
really big concern for me because star players can't they
can't be baited. They shouldn't be baited. And here's Luca
with fifteen technicals. Dwight Howard's the only player with more.
He's got sixteen. So what advice would you give Luca
(30:14):
dun Chick on trying to avoid getting involved in these
ships and complaining. Well, here's the thing, because I was
a complainer, and I that's why I'm asking you a
small complainer. You never want to put your team in
jeopardy because they didn't have when you got a certain
amount of technicals. When I played, you got suspended a
game that would hurt the Mavericks, that would hurt your team.
(30:37):
So you can't put yourself in that position. You know. Look,
having played for Ricos, Ricarlsal goes to bat for his players,
and I would go to if I'm Carlisle, I would
go to Luca and say, look, let me handle the officials,
let me get tossed, let me get on them, because
what he's doing now I'm over time, could eventually hurt
(31:01):
his team because every play it seems like when he
doesn't get the call number one, he's in the backcourt
having conversations with the official while the play is going on,
and he's doing his team and disservice by not getting
back getting back into plays. Because you have players who
are irritants, you know that's that's their Patrick's job. Yes,
(31:22):
but Luca can't let Rashid Wallace. You played against Rashid,
it felt like anything bothered Rashid Draymond Green is beatable.
It feels like and great players you have to use
it as motivation, and it doesn't feel like Luca does
that and the and the type of game he has.
Think about this, Luca has the basketball for the Novs.
(31:45):
I would say eighty five nine percent of the time,
your game can do your speaking for you. If you
think a player is baiting new or trash talking or whatever,
you got the ball in your hands, you're calling all
the plays, take it out on them and their team.
You can't get caught up in words. Take it out
with your play. Embarrass them. That's how you get your
(32:07):
paid back. What was it last Friday? Was the anniversary
of your game against the Knicks? Eight eight points in
nine seconds? Yes, it was like it was yesterday. Did
the Hall of Fame ask for anything from that game?
I believe they asked for either a jersey or my shoes,
which they have. I gave it to them. Yes. Where
(32:29):
are the socks? I don't know, in a laundry bin. See,
I would like the socks that that would be great.
How many items does the Hall of Fame have you? Years? Shoes,
a full jersey? They probably have a game, basketball wrist
fan and that's it. But those are all based off
(32:51):
of what so the one game? Yeah, certain games performances
like that game, the George the shot over Jordan. I'm
sure they asked for something. Look, it's an honor when
they call and say, hey, you know, we're thinking about
displaying this at the Hall of Fame. UM, so of
course you the pacers sitting it off, which was cool.
(33:12):
I think those two games are the are the two
things that where they've asked for stuff. But you see
Greg Anthony right all the time? Yes, you see Greg Anthony.
And Greg is the guy who was trying to guard
you and you kind of nudged him and he fell
to the floor. Said the correct word was nuts. Yeah,
you know the dial contact. But but do you can
you bring this up? Or does would Greg Anthony ever
(33:36):
bring this up to you that you It's funny, you know,
I've called a couple of games with Greg and we'll
see something during the course of a game and he'll
bring it up like it's nineteen ninety five, like I
shoved him out of a moving car or something. Right, Greg,
were on you, You were on your way down anyways,
(34:00):
So my incidental contact shouldn't have really even mattered a
little bit. But I just like, you know, when I
would like that right away, I thought I was going
to get the call, but when I didn't hear a whistle.
And Anthony Mason, I'm telling you, God rest his soul,
he threw me the best pass Mark Jackson never could
(34:22):
have from me. I mean it hit me right here
in my pock, right in my shooting pocket, right into
my I mean, one dribble behind the three it was,
it was launched. Anthony Mason was scary, scary. That NIXT
team was scary. I mean, people want to talk about
the Bad Boys, and rightfully so. Some of those some
(34:45):
of those characters on the Bad Boys were a little loose.
Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, I mean Greg, Anthony, John Starks,
A lot of these guys had screws loose. Two. Thank
god I had my David's boys who were all there.
LaSalle Thompson wasn't all there, Sam Mitchell not all there,
(35:07):
so we could kind of like go toe to toe
with the Knicks. But Anthony Mason was a scary dude. Man,
who's the guy that you worried about after a game
that you played against two and I love him to death.
(35:27):
Vernon Maxwell, who's one of my good friends, Mad Max.
I ad Max because you didn't know if he was
going to come into the locker room and ask for
an autograph or y'all were going to be scrapping in
the middle of the visiting team's locker room. And Alvin Robinson,
I mean Alvin. I knew after my rookie year when
John Long came to me and said, never and I
(35:51):
mean absolutely, never readge say a word to Albert Robinson.
Just let him play his game. If he found you
hard to say good, don't eat, don't even look at
him because his eyes are steely black. Don't even talk
to him. So you didn't know what you're going to
get between Alvin and mad Mass Well, you know, Mark
(36:13):
love them both. Now. Mark Jackson tells that story about
Alvin robertson You're playing dice, and he said, they know
he's cheating, and everybody's afraid to call him on it
because they were worried that Alvin was just not a
guy you messed with. I love that they they had
to continue to lose money because they couldn't call Alvin
on cheating. He had loaded dice. Crazy, just crazy. Oh God,
(36:42):
And you survived. I survived. I'm here speaking with you
and my dad nets Man. All right, Well, so you
got you don't find out your assignment until later today.
I think it's either Portland at Miami or it's Portland
and the Phoenix Suns. But you're not traveling all be one,
you're not traveling, not traveling yet, right, not traveling yet remotely.
(37:05):
Oh well, then it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, It
doesn't matter, doesn't matter still remotely, Pete Bill, I just
saw where Duncan Robinson is in line for twenty million
dollars a year contract. Really yeah, no, that's good. That's
good if you're twenty years younger, Redge. I will never
(37:27):
fall guys for making money. That's what this game is
all about. The guys befit are before me. They paved
the way so I could make a living. And that's
what we're we did now for the Duncan Robinson's of
the year twenty million. Yeah, pretty good. We're a shooter.
Go get it. Thank you, Redge, You talk to you soon.
(37:48):
That's the Hall of Famer Reggie Alawishous Millard Junior the third.
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(38:52):
Dan six one, two hundred and doing the poll question,
not really talking about it. But I think one thing,
the hundred meters has always had a mystique like if
you had tickets to the whole Olympics, the one event
you might want to go to is the hundred meters,
And so I think maybe that's why Hussein Bolt. Maybe
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you'd want to be with him or not. Best and
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But he's such a great soul in The podcast is
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I know, but it's about I mean, Rex had substance
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I mean I used that CBD that you select guest Seaton. Yeah,
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(41:05):
think Jesse in La Hey, Jess, what's on your mind?
ADP calling to get my best and worse? But before
I get to that, you guys are awesome. Only on
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Um My best on the way their final snowboard session
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like they're going to extend the longest playoff drop in
the NBA to fifteen years. I think, I really don't know.
I think after ten I stopped there an I don't know. Jesse,
(41:51):
thanks for the phone call. The Devil's Dan Druff, I'd
never heard of that. Um. Every year feels like this
is the year from my Sacramento Kings. I think it's
two thousand and five, two thousand and six. That's the
last time our King's made the was was Peso Stoyakovitch
still there as some of the people on the Kings.
(42:13):
The last time they made the playoffs was Peja Bonzi Wells,
your boy shore Reef up door right meta world piece,
Mike Bibby. Corliss Williamson was on the team. What that
game with this at Corliss Arkansas's Corless Williamson. Whenever I
would do a highlight when shore Reef righthem like, whenever,
(42:33):
I would always say his whole his whole name when
he was with the Vancouver Yes mc clevin, Oh that
King's team with Seaweb and they should have won the title.
Weren't they robbed in the Donegee game? Yeah? I think so.
At least there's talk of that found results of the
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(42:54):
What did you learn on today's program? Steph Curry a
much better three point shooter when he dribbles at least
ten times before taking the shock crazy stat mclovin. Bob
Bafford mentions that pretty much anyone can walk through the stables. Yeah, yeah,
there were. There were a lot of reasons, excuses now
his horses have tested positive. Set O'Connor, I learned what
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Russell Westbrook is on the verge of setting very impressive mark,
at least I guess he is. He tied Oscar Robertson
for the most triple doubles in NBA history. I think
we're triple doubled out, but it's still a big deal.
He had thirty three nineteen and fifteen assists, two blocks
(02:07):
and win over the Pacers. That's an incredible stat line.
But we've gotten used to this with Russell Westbrook. I
think we're comparing Russell to Russell and I'm talking about Westbrook.
Ever since he won the MVP in twenty seventeen, I
think we've viewed his accomplishments differently because, well, he hasn't
had much postseason success. And you can't say that he
(02:29):
hasn't played with good players, because he has. And that's
the flaw. That's the one big flaw that I have
with Russ. He is fascinating if you're a fan of
the show, and you know, I've said that's one of
the guys that I would pay to watch. He dominates
the ball. But he's got he's got numbers here. I
don't care what your numbers are. I just want to know,
(02:54):
Like I don't. I didn't care what Magic Johnson's numbers were.
I just knew, Okay, those night teen points and eleven assists,
they're gonna come when I need them the most. Not Hey,
I just roughed up Cleveland, Like, I want to know
what you're doing deep into the playoffs. And I think
that's if there's a knock on Russ, it's that Now
(03:15):
he's not a good shooter, he's a scorer, but winning
a playoff series is something that is important, I think
for Russell Westbrook and I think they're a dangerous team,
believe it or not, because if you get Westbrook and
Bradley Beale, maybe you can make some magic happen in
the opening round. It feels like they would be a
tough out just because of those two. But the whole
(03:37):
triple double, and I as amazing as it was, is
it just feel like, when's the last time you went, wow,
oh my god, you had a triple double. But you
know when he had over twenty rebounds, that's what caught
my eye. But you know, twenty four assists, Like these
(03:58):
are crazy numbers. But if you look at the scoring,
scoring is up exponentially. If you're averaged in twenty four
to twenty five a game, Okay, like that used to
be a big deal. Not as much now. Yeah, point,
I was thinking about you just said Magic Johnson nineteen eleven.
You go back prime Magic Johnson with the Lakers. He
was averaging like seventeen and a half and thirteen, eighteen
(04:20):
and twelve, eight, nineteen and twelve. Then when Cream left,
he kind of got up a little bit and there
was a season where average twenty four points and twelve
rebounds and six assists. But that was his best twenty
four points a game. Yeah, if someone's doing that today,
someoneould be like eighteen and twelve. They'd be considered a
really good point guard, but not a scoring punch. I
wonder how Magic would be viewed now, Like, how would
(04:40):
his game be in today's game. You know, he'd be
shooting more threes, but he would average more assists. I mean,
he was just he walked on the floor and you
had a mismatch. That. That was what was great with Magic,
you know, when you there was a time, believe it
or not, where I said publicly I would take Magic
over Michael. And it's because I said, Magic is going
(05:05):
to lead my team. He's gonna run my team. He's
my six nine point guard. Now it was Michael more talented, yeah,
more explosive, but man, there's there's something there. It was
something comforting knowing that your point guard was a you know,
could lead everybody. You could score if he had to.
Magic could dominate and didn't have to score, like Michael
(05:28):
couldn't dominate if he if he didn't score, but Magic
could dominate. He could take over a game. Michael was
a great defender as well. Yes, mcglevan I always thought
Isaiah Thomas could have scored thirty a game if he wanted,
but he always put his game to the side to
help other guys. Whenever he did score a lot, I
think the track record is his team didn't win. Isaiah
(05:51):
would have personal grudge matches. I think he had one
against John Stockton and he tried to embarrass John and
that's when Karl Malone hit him with the elbow. But
Isaiah would get into those one on one battles, and
I think he had a losing record when he was scoring,
you know, upwards of thirty or forty points in the game. Yeah, yeah,
and you're right, Isaiah Thomas. His second year in the league,
(06:12):
he was twenty three points a game, which is pretty
high end back then. But then he kind of cooled
down to like twenty and ten, twenty and thirteen, but
he was always in that twenty and ten mix. Yeah.
But you know, Russell Westbrook has had a Hall of
Fame career and he's on the on the list top
five top five point guards of all time. We started
(06:32):
the show, we talked a little bit about what's going
on with the Kentucky Derby winner. Medinas spirit accused of
using an anti inflammatory. Bob Bafford is the great trainer
for that horse and won a couple of triple crowns,
who won the Kentucky Derby seven times, and Bob joins us. Now, Bob,
thanks for joining us. What have you been accused of? Exactly,
(06:56):
I've been accused of. The horse tests it pause for
a legal therapeutic medication. It's called beta metho zone and
it was twenty one pecograms, which is we call it
contaminant levels. Um, it's a pecogram. They're testing at these
really low levels the last few years, and so it's
(07:19):
been a problem in racing. But the really troubling thing
is dan is that the horse has never been treated
with that specific drug. So we're we're at a loss
for words trying to figure out how he got got
contaminating because at those levels they call it contempnattion. Okay,
(07:41):
once you find out what has happened, do you do
you know inventory with your staff where anybody could have
possibly administered this to this horse without your knowledge. Well,
usually it's that that specific drug is usually it can
be injectable, but the horse wasn't objected with that, So
(08:01):
we're going through different We checked make sure that nobody
had any special creams. You know, I'm learning about it
right now, but nobody, nobody to handle the horse, that
handle a horse, had any creams or anything like that.
So we just don't know where this came from. Do
you think you've been sabotaged? I think I don't know
(08:21):
if I was sabotage indirectly. I think it could have
been somebody handled this horse, touched it, because at those levels,
it's very minute. It's at a level that it wouldn't
affect the horse, and it's scary. There's scary levels because
I've had this problem before. When did you find out
that this inquiry was going on. I was on my
(08:44):
way to California on was it Friday? Saturday? Saturday? I mean,
and I got a call from my assistant trainer, Jimmy
Barnes in the Louisville and he told me something horrible
has just happened. And I thought one of the horses
had gotten hurt, and he says, we've just been served
with our horse. Every horse tests a positive for beta
(09:05):
methi zone and I immediately, you know, call the stewards
there and want to know what's going on. It's not
something's not right. It's got to be and I told
them they need to test, get hair samples immediately, Let's
get some DNA. This has to be a mistake. And
it still could be. I'm hoping it's a mistake. Maybe
it was a wrong horse or whatever. But uh, you know,
(09:28):
it's something that I've got an investigation team working on it.
But it's horrible, man. It's something that I would you know,
it's I would never risk my reputation and I trained
for you know, the great horses, and I trained for
great clients. And it's just it doesn't make sense. But
(09:48):
it's hard to you know, people in the horse industry
they understand, you know, it's BS, but not the public.
How beneficial would this drug be to that horse? At
that level? It had zero effect on the horse. We're
talking pego grams. It's like it's one pego gram is
a salt green. It's a billions of a gram. Are
(10:10):
you going to run the horse in the Preakness. Well,
we're playing on it. We're waiting to hear from Freakness
came out with a statement. Churchill down came out with
a really harsh statement. Yeah, I was shocked by it
because you know, I think it was just a knee jerk,
cancel culture kind of reaction and they violated my due process.
(10:33):
I mean this usually when these when you get a
positive van, it's it's supposed to be confidential, and they
wait for your split to come back and usually takes
a few weeks and then then they announced it. But
it leaked out immediately. I've had this happened to me
a couple of times. They just leaked out immediately. So
now I have to fight this in the public. When
(10:54):
do you get the second result back? They usually come
It usually takes about three weeks for it to come back.
Three weeks, Yeah, that's it's a it's a very slow process.
But will the Preakness allow you if if they don't,
you don't have that second test back, Well, they should
allow me because the horse is not officially it's got
(11:15):
to be it has to be confirmed there was a mistake.
So basically, they really can't, you know, they they can't.
They shouldn't, you know, keep them from running. Can you
sue to run in the Preakness? I think there's some
some we're looking at some avenues that you know, if
they do come up and say something. You know, we're
going to we're going to be aggressive here. But if
(11:38):
if you talk to the casual sports fan here, Bob,
who doesn't know horse racing, they probably say, well, you've
got some priors here that that you've had other incidents
with horses. So what do you say to the casual
sports fan looking at them, or even people in the
horse racing industry here, that there have been other horses
who have failed drug tests. Well, I think a lot
(12:00):
of them were just, uh, you know, mistakes like this
is from nineteen seventy one. You know, down the road.
I used to be a little sloppy and they were overages.
They weren't nothing really serious. And the last couple of
years I've had some like Justify was the big one.
He had he ingested scopolamine, which it comes into hay.
(12:23):
I hadn't. I couldn't prevented that, and we resolved that
it was it was a bad headline. I had a
groom that urinated that he had COVID and he's getting
over he urinated in the stall, and the horse ate it.
It was a coughts medicine. We resolved that, you know,
things like that happened because they're testing at these really
(12:45):
extremely low levels. This would not have been positive in California.
That's the thing with racing. It's not uniform, and they
just change these rules here in Kentucky because of that.
Because of those those levels, things can happen. Then in Arkansas,
I had litocame positive last year and one of my
the Arkansas Derby and another horse, and then we found
(13:08):
out that we just resolved that because there was other
horses that tested positive in the Arkansas Derby that were
below the thresholds, so they got contamity within forty five
minutes of the race. So these things happened. But when
they're testing at this new level, they just started this
because everybody's like, you know, racing has been in this.
We've got to clean up the sport. And they've got
(13:28):
this new Horse Racing Integrity Act. And I was one
of the guys first trainers behind it, so I think
it's good. Let's we need somebody, and I welcome like
a Travis Tigerant to come in and and see this
and to explain to the people. If we had them,
then the people say, well, you know, if they're looking
at it, we need people like from the outside looking
(13:49):
in because the regulators that we have right now, they
just don't use common sense. You know, it's getting really bad.
Where's the horse right now? The horse is actually in
a van headed to Preakness to Pinlico. We usually fly
them there, but the the the cargo company just lost
or leave, so, uh so they had a man there
(14:13):
for the first time I've ever van. There's I think
it takes about ten hours. Is there sabotage though in
the industry, like you're you're saying, you could be, I
guess there people Are there people out there that are
that are trying to taint these these drug chests. I'm
starting to I've never been a conspiracy theorist, but I'm
starting to suspect it's been happening to me on the
(14:35):
big day, you know, and so and we have really
we have the security, we're watching them. I mean, these
horses live, they don't live in a boat. You know,
their environment. There's their stalls, it's open, you know, it's
people can walk through, and you know anytime we don't
really you know, we're not thinking, but it's just it
just seems really strange now that here's a horse that
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didn't get that specific drug. He was not treated with that,
and it's uh, you know, it's it's that's where that's
mind boggling right there, that somebody either how to contaminate
him somewhere. So we just don't know that. I hate
to speculate, but we don't know. What do you think
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happens today? What are you working on today? Today? We're
working on on Maryland. Like the Preakness. We're trying to
figure out they're going to have the draw they're supposed to.
I guess notify me. I haven't been told anything, you know.
I just know what you what we read. So I'm
(15:41):
just waiting to hear my I have my lawyers, you know,
watching it closely what's going on. And so that's all
we do is sit and wait. If officials are watching
right now from the Derby or Preakness, what would you
say to them? I would say, you know, I didn't
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I didn't administer that. The horse didn't get my I'm
an open book. I'm a Hall of Fame trainer. I
had a lot of success and a lot of people
are out there, you know, just they don't like it.
You know, that's part of the part of the game.
I understand it, but I didn't do it. And it's
just it's they need to look at this in a
(16:23):
different way. It shouldn't have been called a positive and
they know it's a contaminant level. And we've been dealing
with this and I keep saying, you know, racing has
a lot of problems with Bob Bafford isn't one of them.
But you know, with success comes a lot of jealousy
and animosity. And uh, but I'm an open book. I'm
gonna I'm very transparent. They look at all the bed records,
(16:47):
We present everything to them. I've never were an open book. Bob,
thanks for joining us, Good luck with the challenge. There
will certainly be watching. We appreciate your time. Thank you. Man.
That's Bob Baffert, the Hall of Fame trainer and still
waiting to see if they'll be able to enter the
(17:07):
horse at the Preakness. You just got to sit and wait.
Very interesting race this weekend. If or if not, Reggie
Miller will join us coming up here. Yeah, Paul, this
is a tough one because if it's going to take
three weeks to find out if the result is right
or wrong, do you not let the horse but don
a spirit race this weekend or let it race well
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if you want attention to the race. But then you
run the risk of do you then have another situation
where you've won two legs of the triple crown and
now you know you may have to take away two
things here and vice versa that you didn't let an
innocent horse and training staff compete. All right, let me
take a break. Reggie Miller in the on deck circle.
Talk to Reggie, will take a break. It's nineteen after
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Peacock app. I don't know if I'm no more or
less after having Bob Bafford on, but that's a full denial,
that's for sure. Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer Turner
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Sports is not going to know what game Reggie's gonna
have until later today, So we'll just have to sit
here and wait with Reggie to find out where he's
going to be coming up here. How was the weekend?
Happy belated mother Day? Yeah, you and yours and all
my dan nettes and everyone our viewers watching or listening
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abroad and at home. Yeah, any Mother's Day. Yeah, well,
because you got the newborn there, so didnt need just
that bit extra special to celebrate Mother's Day. I'm very lucky.
I got a couple of questions here. Let me start
with Steph. Something that you are well versed in these shots.
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Degree of difficulty here, Regie like, it's hard to say that.
I'm I'm surprised, you're amazed. When I tune in to
see Steff, I would have thought I've seen everything. How
how do you describe this run that he's had here
in the last month or so. I'm surprised and amazed,
That's what I'm going to say. And this is coming
(20:29):
from a guy who I felt that I've seen everything. Yeah,
and I agree with you. The degree of difficulty and
timed and score when he's making some of these shots,
it's sometimes head scratching. And you know, for a guy
who put a lot of time and effort into my craft,
(20:50):
hours and hours in the gyms, shooting different shots from
different locations, you know, being off balance, having contact shooting shots,
I know how difficult it can be. He has made
it look like it's like he's shooting a free throw.
And that's what makes people like myself somewhat amazed because
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I know how difficult it is, so I am amazed
and people ask me about MVPs. He won't win the MVP,
but in my opinion, he should be in the top
He should be in the top three from what he
has done and what Golden State has done. No one
really has, especially when Clay went down, everyone thought this
(21:32):
was a straight line to the lottery. Once again, give
Steve Kerr and staff credit, and I give Draymond Green
and especially Steph Curry a lot of credit for hanging
in there playing with a young team. You lose your
second round draft pick James Wiseman a month and a
half ago, and you have still found a way to
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be competitive and you're in the playoff hunt. It's amazing
what he is doing. And if you get in that
play in game with the Lakers, like that's really flirting
with danger. If you're the Lakers, it is, you know,
because if a player like step yes, you can get
hot and it doesn't matter to be at home or
on the road. His ability to make shots okay, but
(22:16):
the Lakers take down the Suns. I don't know how
important that game is. I don't know how big it
was to you, but just you know, we keep thinking
that the Lakers and Nets just go into the playoffs
and then everything's going to be fine. You've had it,
I'm guessing an injured ankle before like those don't ever,
it doesn't feel like they go away. And all it
takes is you roll the ankle again, or you know,
(22:38):
Anthony Davis gets injured again and then you're out for
three or four games, and that's that's how you get
knocked off here. You want rhythm and chemistry at this
time of year, especially going into the playoffs, and let's
face it, injuries are a part of the game. We
get it. And I look at Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They
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got right. They got healthy at the right time towards
the end of the season when everyone was getting banged up.
Tom Brady and his gang of Warriors got right, got
healthy and started to click and play at the right time,
and onto the Super Bowl and they win it. And
it's not a light switch. Basketball is not a light
(23:19):
switch you can turn on and turn off. You have
great talent, don't get me wrong. That's Lakers when whole
when healthy. My opinion, they're the two favorites, but you've
got to have some type of rhythm and you've got
to have some type of chemistry going into the playoffs.
I think it was a huge win for the Lakers
for their psyche because everyone's talking about playing and I
(23:44):
still think once Lebron comes back, they will be better.
But it's not a light switch. And like you said,
you were messing with danger because of the way Step
if they end up playing Golden State in that playing game,
remember I mean that one loss at that can prove
a lot of things, and Step can get hot and
put up fifty on you in a heartbeat. So you've
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got to be careful and you've got to try to
find a way to get that rhythm and chemistry going.
We were talking about Russell Westbrook that he's on the
verge of breaking Oscars record for triple doubles in a career.
I was wondering how Magic Johnson would be in today's NBA.
Oh my god, but maybe shooting more threes though right
Red she'd be shooting that set shot three. He probably
(24:28):
would be, But think about that at six nine six
nine point guard, when there's no hand checking and freedom
of movement. That's the two things taken from the eighties
and nineties basketball versus the two thousands. Freedom of movement,
being able to know, not hand check, and you could
(24:48):
float anywhere you want. Magic Johnathan playing downhill every time
there's a miss shot. I think he would have been brilliant. Yeah,
because he had a couple of years I think mostly average,
like twenty four one year when Kareem was gone, but
he was like a nineteen points eleven assists guy. And
that's where we get caught up in stats and people say,
you know, Russell Westbrook is maybe the second or third
(25:10):
greatest point guard of all time. I want to know
what my point guard does when I need him to do.
You know what it is a point guard is supposed
to do. John Stockton, you know what did he average fifteen,
fourteen or sixteen? Yeah? Like, but what did he do
when he needed to do it? That's what Russell hasn't
given us. Westbrook is a you know, statistical anomaly. It's
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just when he's been on a big stage, he hasn't performed.
That's where I always say, that's the difference in being
a great point guard and one of the all time
great point guards. Russ is fascinating to watch, but can
you do this on a big stage? And maybe the
pressure is off because Washington is not a great team
or high expectations, But him and Bradley Beale in a
(25:56):
short series they could be I mean, they could probably
you know, steal a series from somebody. Hard out, hard
out with those two guys, because both guys they can
win you ball games and it's always going to be
a dog fight in a struggle. And like you know,
people always want to knock Russell because of the triple doubles,
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you know, and it's almost what have you done for
me lately? We know that you're putting up these numbers,
but you're in the ninth or tenth spot in the East.
But I say that to these people, I wouldn't much
rather want to have a guy who's ready to run
through a brick wall like Russell Westbrook, who gives you
effort on every single play. Does he have flaws, absolutely,
(26:41):
but playing hard is the number one thing that you
don't see a lot of great players do. A lot
of great players have talent, but they don't play hard
all the time. And it's true, Russ plays too hard.
Sometimes he plays too hard, Right, he plays too hard.
I know I wouldn't my frather have Russ Westbrook. Then
a lot of these other guys that take plays off.
(27:04):
He's Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer, Turner's sports NBA
analyst the Pelicans, David Griffin got find fifty thousand dollars
talking about how Zion is officiated. And I gave a
couple of stats here on him that nobody has had
their shot block more than Zion one hundred thirty one times.
He said, a shot block this year, but nobody scores
(27:25):
more in the paint, like he's three hundred points, I think,
more than the Joker and the Greek freak. So he
gets in like he's a smaller version of Shack. I
don't think they know how to officiate him here, reg
But Zion, to his credit, did say I hope I
get to the point where I get those calls. He
(27:46):
didn't criticize the official. Now he's got a broken finger here.
How do you officiate him? And is it similar to
the way Shack was officiated? Somewhat similar? I think with Shack,
Shack was so much bigger than everyone else and so
much more powerful. It almost wasn't fair. And I think
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what David Griffin and the Pelicans, and to Zion's credit,
what they're doing, it's just planning a seed for years
to come because until he develops that outside jump shot.
And you and I we've talked about this on this
show many of times. If they can't solve what he's
doing in the pain, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
(28:29):
And I think all he wants to do is plant
seeds and the official until he gets a jump shot,
because that's the only way really he's scoring is in
the pain, and that's driving. And the reason why he
gets his shot block the most is because that's where
his bread and butter is, that's where his candy land
is is in the pain. So of course he's going
(28:49):
to get his shot blocked more because he's not taking
jump shots. He's shooting in the pain. And I wonder
what would what would you tell him to work? I
would have him number one, a face up from fifteen
to eighteen feet, a catch and a couple of jab
(29:10):
steps to freeze the defense and to knock down that shot,
or a wonderable left or a wonderable right pull up
jump shot, because then you're gonna have the defense guessing.
Because after that, we've seen his first step. His first
step is unbelievable. We've seen his spin move. After his
first he likes to go left spin and then bringing
(29:32):
up you know, the arms up. That's probably where you
got a broken finger because he exposes the ball. What
I would do one dribble pull up left, won dribble
pull up right. Now you keep the defense guessing. Now
you can work on your spin move and you have
a defense at your mercy. We also talked about Luca
Dunchick that he got tossed, you know, in the game
(29:53):
against Cleveland for the flagrant. But the technicals are a
really big concern for me because star players can't they
can't be baited. They shouldn't be baited. And here's Luca
with fifteen technicals. Dwight Howard's the only player with more.
He's got sixteen. So what advice would you give Luca
(30:14):
dun Chick on trying to avoid getting involved in these
ships and complaining. Well, here's the thing, because I was
a complainer, and I that's why I'm asking you a
small complainer. You never want to put your team in
jeopardy because they didn't have when you got a certain
amount of technicals. When I played, you got suspended a
game that would hurt the Mavericks, that would hurt your team.
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So you can't put yourself in that position. You know. Look,
having played for Ricos, Ricarlsal goes to bat for his players,
and I would go to if I'm Carlisle, I would
go to Luca and say, look, let me handle the officials,
let me get tossed, let me get on them, because
what he's doing now I'm over time, could eventually hurt
(31:01):
his team because every play it seems like when he
doesn't get the call number one, he's in the backcourt
having conversations with the official while the play is going on,
and he's doing his team and disservice by not getting
back getting back into plays. Because you have players who
are irritants, you know that's that's their Patrick's job. Yes,
(31:22):
but Luca can't let Rashid Wallace. You played against Rashid,
it felt like anything bothered Rashid Draymond Green is beatable.
It feels like and great players you have to use
it as motivation, and it doesn't feel like Luca does
that and the and the type of game he has.
Think about this, Luca has the basketball for the Novs.
(31:45):
I would say eighty five nine percent of the time,
your game can do your speaking for you. If you
think a player is baiting new or trash talking or whatever,
you got the ball in your hands, you're calling all
the plays, take it out on them and their team.
You can't get caught up in words. Take it out
with your play. Embarrass them. That's how you get your
(32:07):
paid back. What was it last Friday? Was the anniversary
of your game against the Knicks? Eight eight points in
nine seconds? Yes, it was like it was yesterday. Did
the Hall of Fame ask for anything from that game?
I believe they asked for either a jersey or my shoes,
which they have. I gave it to them. Yes. Where
(32:29):
are the socks? I don't know, in a laundry bin. See,
I would like the socks that that would be great.
How many items does the Hall of Fame have you? Years? Shoes,
a full jersey? They probably have a game, basketball wrist
fan and that's it. But those are all based off
(32:51):
of what so the one game? Yeah, certain games performances
like that game, the George the shot over Jordan. I'm
sure they asked for something. Look, it's an honor when
they call and say, hey, you know, we're thinking about
displaying this at the Hall of Fame. UM, so of
course you the pacers sitting it off, which was cool.
(33:12):
I think those two games are the are the two
things that where they've asked for stuff. But you see
Greg Anthony right all the time? Yes, you see Greg Anthony.
And Greg is the guy who was trying to guard
you and you kind of nudged him and he fell
to the floor. Said the correct word was nuts. Yeah,
you know the dial contact. But but do you can
you bring this up? Or does would Greg Anthony ever
(33:36):
bring this up to you that you It's funny, you know,
I've called a couple of games with Greg and we'll
see something during the course of a game and he'll
bring it up like it's nineteen ninety five, like I
shoved him out of a moving car or something. Right, Greg,
were on you, You were on your way down anyways,
(34:00):
So my incidental contact shouldn't have really even mattered a
little bit. But I just like, you know, when I
would like that right away, I thought I was going
to get the call, but when I didn't hear a whistle.
And Anthony Mason, I'm telling you, God rest his soul,
he threw me the best pass Mark Jackson never could
(34:22):
have from me. I mean it hit me right here
in my pock, right in my shooting pocket, right into
my I mean, one dribble behind the three it was,
it was launched. Anthony Mason was scary, scary. That NIXT
team was scary. I mean, people want to talk about
the Bad Boys, and rightfully so. Some of those some
(34:45):
of those characters on the Bad Boys were a little loose.
Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, I mean Greg, Anthony, John Starks,
A lot of these guys had screws loose. Two. Thank
god I had my David's boys who were all there.
LaSalle Thompson wasn't all there, Sam Mitchell not all there,
(35:07):
so we could kind of like go toe to toe
with the Knicks. But Anthony Mason was a scary dude. Man,
who's the guy that you worried about after a game
that you played against two and I love him to death.
(35:27):
Vernon Maxwell, who's one of my good friends, Mad Max.
I ad Max because you didn't know if he was
going to come into the locker room and ask for
an autograph or y'all were going to be scrapping in
the middle of the visiting team's locker room. And Alvin Robinson,
I mean Alvin. I knew after my rookie year when
John Long came to me and said, never and I
(35:51):
mean absolutely, never readge say a word to Albert Robinson.
Just let him play his game. If he found you
hard to say good, don't eat, don't even look at
him because his eyes are steely black. Don't even talk
to him. So you didn't know what you're going to
get between Alvin and mad Mass Well, you know, Mark
(36:13):
love them both. Now. Mark Jackson tells that story about
Alvin robertson You're playing dice, and he said, they know
he's cheating, and everybody's afraid to call him on it
because they were worried that Alvin was just not a
guy you messed with. I love that they they had
to continue to lose money because they couldn't call Alvin
on cheating. He had loaded dice. Crazy, just crazy. Oh God,
(36:42):
And you survived. I survived. I'm here speaking with you
and my dad nets Man. All right, Well, so you
got you don't find out your assignment until later today.
I think it's either Portland at Miami or it's Portland
and the Phoenix Suns. But you're not traveling all be one,
you're not traveling, not traveling yet, right, not traveling yet remotely.
(37:05):
Oh well, then it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, It
doesn't matter, doesn't matter still remotely, Pete Bill, I just
saw where Duncan Robinson is in line for twenty million
dollars a year contract. Really yeah, no, that's good. That's
good if you're twenty years younger, Redge. I will never
(37:27):
fall guys for making money. That's what this game is
all about. The guys befit are before me. They paved
the way so I could make a living. And that's
what we're we did now for the Duncan Robinson's of
the year twenty million. Yeah, pretty good. We're a shooter.
Go get it. Thank you, Redge, You talk to you soon.
(37:48):
That's the Hall of Famer Reggie Alawishous Millard Junior the third.
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And a lot of things. Let's say Tim and Nebraska
joins us. Hi, Tim's on your mind to day? Hey,
(38:52):
Dan six one, two hundred and doing the poll question,
not really talking about it. But I think one thing,
the hundred meters has always had a mystique like if
you had tickets to the whole Olympics, the one event
you might want to go to is the hundred meters,
And so I think maybe that's why Hussein Bolt. Maybe
(39:14):
you'd want to be with him or not. Best and
worst of the weekend. Worst Tottenham Hotspur lost three to
one to lead, so they're basically not going to finish
in the top four and they're out of the Champions
League next year. Best is the Blazers were undefeated this weekend,
including beating the Lakers Friday night. All right, well, thank you, Tim, Yes,
(39:34):
Paul Dan, this is a place to you because you're
a big Tottenham fan. Your boy for Tottenham, Harry Kane.
There's rumors that they may be selling him in the
transfer market, selling why Harry Kane? So he'll still keep
the name, but you haven't. May have a different jersey, Okay,
a kit Harold Kane, Harold Kane, Bill in Florida High Bill,
what's on your mind today? I'd morna DP in chet
(39:58):
row six three two sixty. Best at the weekend. I
took your advice and I listened to Rex Chapman's podcast Outstanding.
Everyone should check it out. Oh great, Yeah, I talked
to Rex on Friday night for an hour and we
just we just talked sports and a bunch of things.
(40:20):
But he's such a great soul in The podcast is
called Charges. What else do you have? Bill Worse of
the Weekend. The podcast was sponsored by an investment company
trying to get people to buy stock in cannabis. Okay,
thank you, that's not good. Well I got to talk
to Rex about that. I wasn't sponsored by Oxy Well,
(40:44):
I know, but it's about I mean, Rex had substance
abuse issues. I mean it is CBD. I'm gonna guess.
I mean I used that CBD that you select guest Seaton. Yeah,
I mean, if it's legal in many many places there,
it is kind of funny. It's a little ironic. Yes,
that's what it is. It's a little ironic. Do you
(41:05):
think Jesse in La Hey, Jess, what's on your mind?
ADP calling to get my best and worse? But before
I get to that, you guys are awesome. Only on
the DP show will you find talk of drugg duck racehorses,
dream lines of the Devil's dandruffs. So thanks for putting
that picture in my head because I was dying earlier.
Um My best on the way their final snowboard session
(41:29):
of the season, I finished right Thompson's book The Cost
of These Dreams. Incredible writer. The stories are great and
it was audio books, so he was reading it. Maybe
it even better. Uh the worst. Our Sacramento Kings look
like they're going to extend the longest playoff drop in
the NBA to fifteen years. I think, I really don't know.
I think after ten I stopped there an I don't know. Jesse,
(41:51):
thanks for the phone call. The Devil's Dan Druff, I'd
never heard of that. Um. Every year feels like this
is the year from my Sacramento Kings. I think it's
two thousand and five, two thousand and six. That's the
last time our King's made the was was Peso Stoyakovitch
still there as some of the people on the Kings.
(42:13):
The last time they made the playoffs was Peja Bonzi Wells,
your boy shore Reef up door right meta world piece,
Mike Bibby. Corliss Williamson was on the team. What that
game with this at Corliss Arkansas's Corless Williamson. Whenever I
would do a highlight when shore Reef righthem like, whenever,
(42:33):
I would always say his whole his whole name when
he was with the Vancouver Yes mc clevin, Oh that
King's team with Seaweb and they should have won the title.
Weren't they robbed in the Donegee game? Yeah? I think so.
At least there's talk of that found results of the
pull question Cleve, whose career would rather have Tom Brady
or you're saying eighty four percent? Now Tom Brady? All right, Todd?
(42:54):
What did you learn on today's program? Steph Curry a
much better three point shooter when he dribbles at least
ten times before taking the shock crazy stat mclovin. Bob
Bafford mentions that pretty much anyone can walk through the stables. Yeah, yeah,
there were. There were a lot of reasons, excuses now
his horses have tested positive. Set O'Connor, I learned what
(43:15):
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