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I mentioned the win by the Oilers beating the Panthers
in South Florida, forcing a Game six that will be
on Friday. Back in Edmonton, Giants Hall of famer Willie
Mays passed away at the age of ninety three. I
didn't have much interaction with Willie because he spent most
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of his career in San Francisco, started out in New York,
but passing away at the age of ninety three, I
did see him. The first time was in spring training
in the sixties early sixties. My father took me to
a game. He wanted me to see Willie Mays play baseball,
and I was really young at the time. All I
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knew is that he his hat kept flying off and
that he he hit a home run, and I tried
to get his autograph during the game, not realizing that
they usually don't sign autographs during the game, even though
it was spring training, and just watching him, trying to
understand what greatness was when you're young, and my dad said,
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just just remember Willie Mays. Now he had brought up
Mickey Mannele, as well a few other players Joe Demagio,
Ted Williams. But he always said what Willy did was
different than what everybody else did, and I always remembered that.
I didn't know what it meant at the time when
I'm seven years of age, but he said he does
things differently than everybody else, and that means he's the
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best all around player that I think baseball's ever had.
There nobody a better center fielder than him. He was
a great base runner. He stole over three hundred bases,
hit over six hundred home runs, He batted over three
hundred for his career. I think playing in San Francisco
hurt him a little bit, and I get you know,
he was exposed to the media, the New York media
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playing for the New York Giants. That's when you had Willy, Mickey,
and the Duke all there in the city, well Brooklyn,
in New York. But Willie Mays, I think overshadowed was
the one play that he had in the nineteen fifty
four World Series, and it sounded like this, there's a
lot so Willy makes this great catch and he has
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to go a long way to get it. Off the
bat of Dick Wurtz. He gets the ball back in.
I think Larry Dobe might have been the runner who
didn't score. He got the third. Giants ended up winning
the Pennant or winning the World Series, I think, in
four games. But we remember Willie Mays for that. There
was also the play at the end of his career
when he played for the Mets, and he was in
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his early forties and should have been out there in
center field. But what he did, how he did it,
he did it differently than anybody who'd ever played the game.
I remember I had interaction with him spring training when
I was at ESPN had an opportunity to sit down
with Willie. Also, Willie McCovey and Orlando cepaida and did
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an interview with them. I don't think they'd ever sat
down before, but my show was on KNBR in San
Francisco and we were able to sit down with them.
Will He was fascinating, he really was. And he's not legendary.
I think he's iconic because he's to me, if you
say who encompasses everything that you need to do in baseball,
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it'd be Willie Mays because he was unbelievable center fielder. Baserunner,
had power, hit for average as well, and spent two
years in the military. He was an All Star twenty
three times, won a couple MVPs, and left his mark
on baseball. And hopefully the tributes will continue to pour
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in for what he meant. And he came in I
think four years after Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier.
So Willy had to put up with a lot of things.
Not what Jackie did, but he had to put up
with a lot of things. So here you had Willy
Mays and Jackie Robinson, one in Brooklyn, one in New York,
and then of course the Giants moved to San Francisco.
So Willie Mays passing away at the age of ninety three,
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and the person that I always think of when you
know you have these legendary, iconic baseball figures passing away.
Tim Kirkchin the mother Ship, who had this to say
about Willy Mays.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Willy Mays is for me, the greatest player I've ever seen.
And I was captivated by baseball at the earliest age.
But when I saw Willie Mays lead off the sixty
five All Star Game on a color TV in our house.
I just could not believe what I was watching. He
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was the greatest player. As Johnny Bench once put it,
he was the perfect baseball player.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
He had the perfect.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Build, He had a style to him that nobody else
has ever had. I grew up three thousand miles from
San Francisco, and I worship Willy Mays. Every time he
was on TV, which wasn't very often for me, I
couldn't miss it.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's how great he was.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And I'm telling you, Scott, when he broke in in
nineteen fifty one, he was the greatest combination of power,
speed and defense that the game had ever seen. And
here it is seventy three years later, and I believe
with all my heart he is still the greatest combination
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of power, speed and defense that the game has ever seen.
That's how great Willie Mays was.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's Tim Kirkchen with Scott Van Pelt on Sports Center,
and Willy was hurt by the fact that he played
in San Francisco. Candlestick Park was a terrorble ballpark as
far as the winds go, and I just remember they
had that chain link fence out there. But Willy, if
he was going after a baseball. He was going to
get it. And there are a lot of guys who
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individually are wonderful center fielders. Paul Blair comes to mind,
I mean Devon White. You know, there's probably ten to fifth,
you know, Ken Griffy Junior was a wonderful olutfitter, Jim
Edmunds wonderful. So Willy did that better than everybody else.
But then he also stoleed over three hundred bases, hit
six hundred and sixty home runs in a better ballpark,
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a better hitting ballpark. He would hit seven hundred home
runs easily two years for the military as well. But
that basket catch, that basket catch, Damn that basket catch,
because we all tried to do it. It bounce off
your chest, off your hand, You get yelled at by
your coach, like stop that you're not Willie made like
I know, but we want to be. My father worked
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at McGregor Sporting Goods and he brought home a glove
one day and it was the same model that Willy
Mays had, and oh my god, I was in heaven
and I played shortstop, which the glove is way too
big to play shortstop. I mean, it was like a
fishing net and I just remember you guys would come
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up and say, is that the one Willie Mays uses,
I go, yep, that's the one. Now I didn't play
like Willy Mays, obviously, but I had that glove, had
that glove forever ever, played softball with it later on
in life. But Willie May is passing away at the
age of ninety three. And my thanks to Tim Kirchin
for the memories, because it's just like with Jerry West
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or with Bill Walton, having that experience, being able to
see somebody in person, meet them, interview them, to be
able to give you a little bit of a historical backdrop.
But baseball losing one of the iconic figures, and really
not iconic just for baseball, iconic for society with what
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Willy meant to a a large group, large population to minorities,
with what he was doing, how he was doing it.
But I remember him telling me, I said, why is
your hat always fall off? And he said, I have
a smaller hat and that's why it fall He wanted
it to fall off. It made it seem like he
was running even faster. And I believe he was a
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quarterback in high school. I mean he was he was
an athlete playing baseball and uh, one of the one
of the great players. If you have Mount Rushmore, he's
certainly up there. Pole question today, Seaton, what are we
going to go with?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Well, you know, I was wondering, actually if that Willy
Mays highlight of his over the shoulder catch, is that
the coolest highlight.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Of all time?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Wow, that's tough to say.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Certainly one of the most iconic.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know, he made what was probably an impossible catch,
look routine, and that's what's amazing. I think field was
four hundred and fifty four feet away, Like when you
think of his center field it might be like four
oh four, So four fifty four maybe, and he is
tracking that down. Now you catch it, he turns. What
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we don't see on the highlight is he throws the
ball to second base from deep, deep, deep center field
and he throws it to second and I think he
keeps Larry Dobie at third so they don't score. They
didn't score in the inning and it was a big play,
but they did. I think they won four to oho
series sweep. But that I think when people say, oh,
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Willie Mace all over the shoulder basket catch. It's pretty
good catch to have.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It's a pretty great highlight. Yeah, that's that's how I was.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And also Tim brings up when you see something in color,
because we saw things in black and white growing up,
and it just looked different. And all of a sudden,
when you got to see a baseball game on TV
in color, you're like, damn, all of a sudden, it
was it was sports disney Land. For me, I'm like,
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oh god, that's that's how those uniforms look. You know,
just everything was like vibrant, and you know, Willie Mays
and Hank Aaron and Mickey Mantle, the Brooklyn Dodgers, I
mean all of those teams that you got to see,
the Cincinnati Reds all of a sudden, it brought baseball
to life in a different way.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yes, And it is true when you couldn't see everybody
at you know, a moment's notice, it was much more
of an appointment to be like, well, right, let's see
what this dude is all about. The you know, the
Yankees are playing whoever or so and so is in town,
or this is on TV. You know, it was it
was a much bigger deal.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, because we didn't have you know, obviously, with the
advent of cable, we got to see everybody, or league pass,
you get to see everybody. There's no novelty to it
back then. That's why the All Star Game was so
powerful because the American League, National League, they didn't like
each other, they didn't face each other, they didn't socialize
with each other, and that's why we cared about the
All Star Game. Like my team in my league ended
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up winning, and you know, to see Willie Mays because
he was on the West Coast and to be able
to go, Okay, what's the big deal? And then all
of a sudden you saw the big deal and then
you're like, all right, I get it because I didn't
see Demagio, I didn't see Ted Williams. It really started
probably in the early sixties when I got to see
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a lot of these players at least started to be
able to follow them. Then get baseball cards and then
you would have the game of the week. That's it.
You might have a highlighter too, maybe, but you know,
I was in Cincinnati, so it was basically the Cincinnati Reds,
and I've started following them religiously. In What nineteen sixty seven,
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Johnny Bench tells the stories at the All Star Game,
He's twenty years of age. Willie Mays walks over to him.
He says, you should be our starting catcher. Johnny's like,
oh my god, it just made my day, made my
All Star Game because Willy Mays came over to talk
to me. And I'm twenty years of age. So a
lot of cool things about this, and you know, a
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lot of great memories. You know when you say Willy
Mays the say Hey kid, and I think, as legend
would have it, I never asked him about this. He
got his nickname say Hey Kid because he didn't know
guy's names, so he'd just say hey. So he was
the say Hey kid, and that's how he got his nickname.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Yeah, Pauline, I'm on YouTube right now watching Willie Mays
catch in the World Series, and it's interesting to see
it in context because I've seen it real quick on
Sports Center and places. He's running towards a wooden wall
with no padding by the way, and then there's a
hard right angle on one corner of the wall and
there's forty more feet of outfield before a brick building
with a metal staircase going up to it. It looks
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like he's playing baseball in a lumberyard or a machine
shop back there.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I just don't know when they had the concept of
an outfield wall, did anybody think what happens if our
ballplayer crash into the wall.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
It's a complete right angle, It's like a ninety degree angle,
and it's all wood, no padding. And then you go
back another fifty feet and there's a brick building with
more lack of padding.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay, but look at Candlestick Park. They had a chain
link fence out there. Willie's going up catching you could
catch your spikes in it. I mean, crazy, crazy, No
one ever thought, you know what I mean. It's not
like NASCAR eventually got padded walls, you know. Baseball's like,
there's nothing wrong with having padded walls out here. For
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some reason, they were worried about the integrity or whatever
it might be, like, no, no, we'll get weird karums
off the wall. Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I found what you're
talking about.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I've got Willie Mays playing in the outfield at Candlestick
and it's a eight foot chain link fence that you'd
find like an old playground, and then when they modernized it,
they put one of those like a digital boards which
is electric and you could run into that as the
other Apple.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Now you had Barry Bonds's dad, Bobby Bonds was the
right fielder for the Giants, so Willie playing center field,
and then Bobby Bonce, who was a great right fielder,
you know, really a great player. But you had Willy there.
You had Willie McCovey as well, Orlando Supaida. I mean,
the Giants had, you know, some wonderful players there. But
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I always loved and I didn't get a chance to
enjoy the rivalry when Willie Mays and Sandy Kofax would
go against one another, because that is like the ultimate
I g. If you're saying this pitching matchup, I got Sandy
Kofax and I got Willy Mays. That's musty TV. That
would have been musky TV. Didn't get the opportunity only
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clips or you know, the World Series when it came around,
or a playoff game. I should say, but uh yeah,
Willy Mays at the age of ninety three. All right,
we'll take a break. We'll settle on our poll question here,
Mike Florio was some football stuff coming up here. Jamal
Crawford Turner Sports. Jamal Crawford has had a wonderful He
has done a great job and if you haven't heard him,
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he's entertaining. He's very, very sharp. And I think the
Lakers are getting their coach probably today that at least
sources close to me tell me that. And I think
Mike Breen told us yesterday when I said, is JJ
Reddick still in the ESPN pay roll? And he goes,
I don't think so. I think that's the first time
we realized that, Yeah, it's happening this week. We'll take
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Speaker 2 (17:10):
Florida Panthers still favored to win the Stanley Cup, but
it certainly got a lot more interesting last night. Got
of McDavid. He's having a great Stanley Cup final. This
is where you get into that legendary status. If you
bring him back from three to one, you're going back
game six Friday night. Then you'd have to go to Florida.
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So worst case scenario for Florida is you're going to
get a game seven. But the numbers that he's put
up are Gretzky like, you just want him to complete it.
If you want to be in the Gretzki conversation and
got a chance. You know he has some plays where
you wantch you have to watch it in slow motion,
like you know, you're great when we have to slow
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it down. Sometimes you'll look at Kyrie with his ball handling,
you go, oh my god. There's certain players where you
go that's unbelievable. Or you're watching a pitcher throw a
pitch and you go, oh, good gun, and you do
it in slow motion. Conor McDavid's stick handling needs to
be in slow motion just to understand it. All Right,
the best American athletes from the United States here gonna
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try to punch their tickets for the Paris Olympics. The
US Olympic Team trials, part of making Team USA, Sunday
at eight Eastern on NBC and Peacock Seaton. What's the
pole question for the first hour? Here's one for PAULI
that we could populate. Okay, if you could.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Go back in history and watch one athlete play, mm,
who or whom would it be?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well, I'd say Babe Ruth, just because I mean still
he's the most unique player in the history of sports,
probably of what he did when he did it, pitching,
having ninety wins, hitting more home runs than entire team,
Like just being around the atmosphere that must have been,
Like there's no TV, it's just radio, it's word of mouth.
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You have to show up. Everybody's got suit and ties,
going on to watch a baseball game. Babe is there,
you know, pounding whatever he's pounding and having a great time. Yeah,
any chance it would be disappointing. Yes, that's kind of
why I feel like I don't want to go see
Babe Ruth play.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I think part of the reason why his he has
this larger than life figure is because there's no video
of him.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well we see him and he just kind of looks
like he's waddling up to the plate, swings any wattles
and runs around the bases like this.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
The video any existing, like footage of them in early
great It's almost like the the myth.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Is way larger than the actual. Yeah, I agree with that.
Am I saying Babe Ruth is overrated?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Yes, maybe I am.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, but I think the atmosphere around Babe would not
be underrated or it would not be overrated. I think
that because they would come out to see him and
what that must have been like to have that many
people showing up and the aura of Babe Ruth. But
you're right, if I'm watching a baseball game and he
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goes one for four of the home run be like, yeah, okay,
he's gone yeah, three finger Brown, he took him deep?
Who else Jesse Owens If you said Jesse in the
nineteen thirty six Olympics, because that's another one. The atmosphere there,
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so you got Hitler in the stands, No, you're with me. Okay, cool,
you're gonna come in with me. So Hitler's there and
Jesse Owens upset him so much that I believe Hitler
walked out of the stadium in the thirty six Olympics
because Jesse was just Hello World, Like that's an ultimate
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Hello World, literally Hello World for Jesse Owens. I think
being at that event, yeah, i'd say, Jesse Owens, that'd
be like, that's a one seed. I don't know what
other one seeds of somebody you didn't get a chance
to see, or at least on a semi regular basis.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Yeah, poem, I think it might not be my number
one overall, but I think i'd like to see a
young Wilt Chamberlain play an actual basketball game. Okay, because
you see some highlights, but they're very brief. And when
you see someone the numbers of fifty five and twenty
five for a season, if you average half that, you're
going to the Hall of Fame. Now, So he has
a season where he could average fifty points and twenty
five remoths, I'd like to see that in person.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
How that and he didn't win the MVP that year. Yeah,
someone was a tick better.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I think Oscar averaged a triple double that year and
Wilt lost the MV pick.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I think Bill Russell won the MVP.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I think, oh that's right. And yeah, so Oscar averaged
a triple double, did well, average fifty points, and then
Bill Russell went the MVP.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Well, it was twenty five. He played forty eight and
a half minutes per game. By the way, the game's
are only forty eight minutes, so he played all the
overtimes as well. Fifty point four twenty five point seven rebounds,
you know, not good enough.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, but it's like Ted Williams batt at four oh
six and didn't win the MVP. But I think that
was same year Demagio at his fifty six game hitting streak,
and even I think the baseball writers in Boston didn't
vote for Ted Williams. Like there's certain guys who weren't
considered nice guys, but they are great at what they do.
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Steve Kerr talked about, you know, nobody said Michael Jordan
was a good guy. He just you know, iconic best
player of all time. Or people might criticize Tiger Woods
and who he is as a person, but as a golfer.
It's different. Oh, by the way, juicye where Tiger got
an exceptional lifetime achievement exemption they created. This sounds like
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you're time. No, it's a special sponsor exemption for Tiger
Woods based on quote his exceptional lifetime achievement. So this
came out Tuesday night. The sponsor's exemption would be available
for Tiger to compete in the eight signature events, which
features limited fields, increased price money.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
You know you're awesome when you have companies and leagues
make new rules to keep you involved.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yes, how do we get Tiger in make sure he
gets to Plague? How about we just give him a
I don't know, an exceptional lifetime achievement exemption. Adam Silver, Sure,
Adam Silver's going to do this. No, this is what
the what Roger Goodell does. But you know the commissioner's
exemp list, You're like, wait, what was that? I don't know,
I just made it up. That's the opposite. That's the
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exclusion list. This is the inclusion list. But so the
policy board considering implementing a thirty six hole cut in
each of the signature events. But the board took no
action and will continue to discuss the topic, because if
you want Tiger in it, you want to make sure
he's there for the weekend. You want to make sure
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that he's healthy enough. And see, the only thing I
worry about is when he doesn't play well and then
he's got to play two more rounds. I love seeing
him play, It's just i'd like to see him enjoy
playing and I haven't seen that as much because he
can't be Tiger. I mean he could be competitive, he
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can't be competitive for four rounds, I don't think health wise.
But to be able to see him and look, the
TV networks benefit greatly. I mean, Tiger's at the US
Open not playing well, but hey, will Tiger make the
cut well? Unless he has a hole in one on
the par four eighteenth, No, he's probably not going to
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make the cut. But you know, we're fixated on Tigers still.
And now he gets his lifetime achieve meant exemption. Yes,
ton is Tiger or.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
Should Tiger be completely comfortable with that? In terms of it,
he didn't earn. It's someone like Tiger woodsn't so competitive.
I didn't make the cut and I'm still gonna play
setting something when I'm basically no chance to win. I'm
just kind of being used, for lack of a better word,
as a pawn to get the ratings to the best
possible number that they see me on the court Sidling
and Sunday. I have no business being out here at
plus nine, but I'm going to continue playing.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
He wants to qualify because they have that.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I don't know the money that's at stake, but you
have to play enough competitive golf. And you know, I
think he got like a hundred million dollars, got a
hundred million for staying on the PGA Tour, and then
he got the like most influential golfer, so he got
another whatever how many millions of dollars there. It seems
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like he's okay with it, Like I'm I guess I
would be okay with it where you go, I'm not
great anymore, but people want to see me. I got
a new clothing line. You want to have that out there.
I got my bridgetone sponsorship. You know, I think I
could go, yeah, all right, I'll kind of wink at it.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
See, let's say Tiger's not a player anymore. He's an
ambassador and he you know, if the PGA is still
probably fighting for survival. That's a great point. They need
to have their greatest ambassador out there longer, and that's
that's what that is. As he let's get him more
of it. Who cares if he's competitive or not, He's Tiger.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah. I think that's a great point. Yeah, Pauli and
I got.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
The memo obtained by ESPN says the additional sponsor exemption
will be created to recognize Tiger Woods in his own
category as a player has reached an exceptional lifetime achievement
threshold of eighty plus wins. So now if you have
eighty plus PGA Tour wins, you will get this exemption.
But you gotta start by being Tiger Woods. It would
really help.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Nobody else is getting this.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
How about this, As long as we're making up new rules,
why don't we just put Tiger in the final foursome
on Sunday of every major? It will just play some
He goes in at like even par and then just
good TV.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
How about we do it where nothing that that his
score starts to count on the back nine on Sunday,
bogies don't count. Yeah, nothing happened, you know, all it
is is kind of a program that he gets to
play glad hand people and then all of a sudden
back nine. I mean, if we're going to make up rules,
then let's do it so and give him a golf
cart to drive around the card Yeah, give him two? Yeah, yes, Tom.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
And if you are just an ambassador, a figurehead, just
embraced that role and just introduce the golfers and shake
hands and be on the dais and don't play.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Would you pass on this if you're Tiger?
Speaker 8 (27:36):
I think I would. I've got all the millions in
the fame and everything, I didn't earn it. I wonder
what the other golfers are saying, not that he should
care about back when I've got a plus ten?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And why am I going to never run into somebody
who said the following I got enough money. I got
enough money. I don't need any more. Stop. Yeah, Warren
Buffett hasn't he goes to work every day. If you
were a.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Great player and that they put you on the All
Star team every year and you can't hit a shot
for your life depending on how you have no way
of contributing significantly to what's going on on the East
or West team or the National League or American League.
But you're who you used to be. So let's find
a spot from in the dugout.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
If I offered you more money and you only had
to work three days, would you take that? Is that
what this is?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So Tiger?
Speaker 8 (28:24):
I don't know what the money.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I think anybody would no.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
No, just you more money to work less?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, you only have to work three days special treatment.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
I probably wouldn't because I would be concern about how
it affected everyone else and how it would be perceived,
and if.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I enjoy what I'm doing, well, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
I'm not working from home a couple of days a week.
We've all been there where you're like maybe a day
or two where you can kind.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Of work out of them. Just saying I'm giving you
a special exemption, a lifetime achievement exemption, the greatest booker
in the history of booking.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
But is that the same I don't know if that's
the same thing? Is what we're talking about with Tiger?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
What's the best I can do that you You don't
have to show up for every event like Tiger doesn't.
There's just certain ones. So that's your three days a
week special treat.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
I guess I would take that.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
No, no, no, I just ask you, what about us?
You're not going to come in. I thought you wanted
to earn it.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
I would contribute Front of the Robbers, from my from
my wherever, the same, I'm on vacation somewhere, but the
guests from.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
About morale would not be the same, would not be Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
It's like, there's a reason billionaires never retire because it's
fun making a ton of money. Yeah, and then all
of a sudden, it's like, hey, look at uh old
you know, old Jimmy whatever.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
He's eight years old, still goes to the office every.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Day because you know what, he's stepping back at eighty five,
taking a less active day to.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Day role, but he's still involved.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Seaton brings up a great point. Tiger's value you to
the PGA Tour, especially now is so important because of
the live tour that Rory is not living up to
what we had hoped had won a major in ten years,
just melted down lost to Bryson d. Chambeau. You need Tiger.
You need Tiger at these events, signature events, ratings. You
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want to have sponsorships, you want to raise the prize money,
and I understand it. I could understand if Tiger goes.
I don't want special treatment. I think Tiger knows he
needs special treatment to be able to still be able
to play. But I would give him a golf cart.
I mean, if you're going to go this far, if
you're going to give him a special lifetime exemption, then
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give him a special lifetime golf cart, just so he
can get around, because you can see he can. Somebody
who's played golf with him said to me, Oh, he's
fine swinging the golf club. It's getting to the shot
to swing the golf club. That's it. And talk to
his caddie. Before I talked to Joe and Joe the caava,
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I said, you know what, how is he He goes, oh
when he wants to swing. I mean, he's still Tiger.
It's just everything else that leads up to it. It's
really he labors getting up to these shots. It's almost
a relief when you get to the ball. But people
want to see him, networks want to showcase him. And
the fact that the PGA Tour gave him a one
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hundred million dollars to basically be a PGA Tour player,
a loyalty fee. Okay, So now they're going to create
this for him. All right, I'm fine with that. I'm okay.
So do we have a pole question seat and we're
going to go with well, we're going to put up
(31:45):
there should Florida be nervous? First of all? Okay? Absolutely?
Or not not yet? Okay? Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
And then we're still populating the if you could go
back in history and watch one player, Okay, right now
we have Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Owens, and Wilt Chamberlain.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Okay, those are pretty good. Okay, all right, Uh, we'll
take a break. We got our Play of the day
coming up, and some news from WOJ some coaching news
and it doesn't have anything to do with JJ Reddick.
Back after this.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 6 (32:24):
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Speaker 11 (32:25):
Play of the Day.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Play this is the play.
Speaker 11 (32:31):
Of the day.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Check this out.
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the Panthers all the way back to Alberta.
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wojit Rowski that after one season the Pistons have fired
Monty Williams, he still has five years sixty five million
(33:38):
dollars plus left on his deal. They have to pay
him all of that. So one one and done in
Detroit and you still have five years sixty five million dollars. Wow,
And then what do you have to pay the new
coach who's coming in. Can you say, hey, we spend
all this money on money, We gotta give you a
(34:00):
how about five million dollars a year? Yes, Ton, so
he gets the full Manti, all right, I'm gonna give
you a blue blue for that. I'm gonna give that
to you.
Speaker 12 (34:08):
Good.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, I am ok. Yeah, I am in a generous
mood today. You really are. Yeah. I have to you know,
when you grade on a curve like I grade your
jokes on a curve, a very large curve. Yes, it is. Yes.
And once again I was mean spirited yesterday late in
the show when I ran into somebody who had gone
through chemo and said that sometimes he would rather have
(34:29):
chemo than listen to you on the show. And I
thought that was mean spirit and I'd like to apologize
that was that was pretty vicious. It was. It was.
I told my wife the joke, and she goes, why
would you say that? I go, I have no idea
how everybody gets your sense? Not everybody gets my sense
of humor.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Yes, Paul, if you were Manti Williams, you've just been fired,
and you have it appears at least fifty million on
the way over the next five years to not coach.
Would you take some time or you say I can double.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Dip I don't know if you can.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
I thought there was a mid a the payout if
you take another job immediately, but not erases it.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I don't know. I know we should check that because
I don't if another team is paying you, I don't
know if the Pistons have to pay you or whatever
they're that other team is paying you, then we take
that off the salary that the Pistons have to.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
So this is like the Tiger Woods thing, almost differently.
Would you rather sit home and get paid more to
not coach or maybe have to take less money to
be an assistant coach?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Well that's where you take a job and you say,
you know what, I'll do this for per diem because
I'm making, you know, fifteen million dollars a year. I'll
do this pro bono. Yes, yes, new Pole.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
Question is fired NBA coach the best job in the world.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, not bad, it's pretty great. Speaking of coaching, John
caliperring Arkansas head coach, joins us a little bit later
on he got fired in the NBA. I wonder what
he thought when he's listening to Dan Hurley and the
Lakers go back and forth, Because if if coach cal
had a chance to do it again what he had
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done it again and gone back into the NBA. I
mean half the NBA appears to be, you know, players
from his rosters, but now with Arkansas and a new philosophy,
not just going for the one and donners. So we'll
talk to coach Call joining us Chris and Syracuse. Good morning, Chris.
What's on your mind? Hey?
Speaker 13 (36:23):
Thanks Dan. I'd like to win in the poll in
a couple comments on Willie Mays. Now, I going to
go off the menu and go Josh Gibson, that catcher
for the Negro League, because I've heard so many people
say that he was like the greatest baseball player ever.
I'd like to see what he's got And yeah, I'm
Willie Mays. You know all the stuff that you said
at play.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
He was so durable.
Speaker 13 (36:41):
I think it was one hundred and fifty four game
season back then. A lot of seasons he played every game.
And I love the fact that his last at bat
was a game winning home run. And I think he
was in our game winning hit, I should say. And
I think he was in his forties then, and it
was in the World Series, no less, And I don't
know who coined the phrase. But I've always loved Tom.
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Willie Mays's glove is the place for triples to go
to die and uh yeah, say kids legacy. As you
pointed out that I'll never die.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
How about Chris Blue Blue that's a that's a phone call,
back to back appearances for Chris and Syracuse. He's right
about uh, you know, with Willie Mays and he and
you know, he brings up Josh Gibson. Josh Gibson is
being recognized now for what he did in the Negro leagues,
but he's not the best player of all time. Certainly
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one of the great hitters of all time. But it's different.
I mean, he was a catcher. Willie Mays was stylistic,
you know he was. He was jazz. He was floating
out there. Certain players have that feel of if you
apply music. I bring this up all the time. You know,
certain players are rock and roll, certain players are heavy metal,
certain players are jazz. Certain players are you know a
(37:53):
little bit more of of you know, elevator music, background music.
Then all of a sudden you look up, you go,
how many points they go? What those surprise players? Nothing
surprising about Willy Mays, Hank Aaron was more of the wait,
what's his batting average? How many home runs a going?
Because he never had that incredible season, He never had
(38:16):
fifty home runs. It was just he just plugged along.
He made twenty four All Star teams. Willie May's made
twenty three. Judy and Fresno. Hi Judy, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Hi? Dan?
Speaker 10 (38:29):
Thank you for taking my call. I just wanted to
share with you.
Speaker 12 (38:33):
The only time.
Speaker 10 (38:34):
In my life I've seen Willie Mays was the last
baseball game played at Candlestick Park, where they had all
the San Francisco greats come out to each position, but
the finale was Willie Mays walking from center field to
the pitchers now.
Speaker 12 (38:49):
Between those Budweiser horses, I think they're called Clydesdale, to
this heroic music they played, and he threw out the
last pitch at that ballpark, and a helicopter came in
and got home plate and took it over to AT
and T Park in San Francisco.
Speaker 10 (39:05):
But I've never been to a sporting event that has
brought me to tears like it did that day. And
I'm a Dodger fan, and that seeing that, and my
son is named Jackie May's. He's sixteen, and I said,
we got to get to Willie Mays. You know, I
didn't know how much time, and we didn't make it,
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but I did get to see him that one time
at Candlestick Park.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Wait, man, I named your son after Jackie Robinson and
Willie Mays.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
How did that go over with your husband?
Speaker 10 (39:40):
Well, my husband I've never been married, and the dad
didn't stick around long enough for it to matter. But
the caveat in the irony is that my son doesn't
really like baseball. He's a definition football team.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
That's awesome, Judy, thank you, thank you for sharing Jackie May's.
And you're not a baseball player. Let me see Gary
in Utah. Hi, Garrett, what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan,
good morning.
Speaker 13 (40:08):
Hope you and the fellas are having a good day today.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
Yep, you know, Dan, I was listening to the show
this morning and it just reminded me of why so
many of us love your show so Over the last
month or so, we've lost some great ones in Bill Walton,
Jerry West and now Willie Mays. And I love that
you don't just kind of deliver the news. You spent
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like fifteen minutes talking about Willie Mays this morning, and.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
We love that.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
And with Bill Walton and Jerry West, the same thing.
And so I hope you keep doing this longer than
four years. But I love how you take time talking
about guys that you and I remember playing, and so
it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Thank you, Gary. Yeah, I like being a voice of
a different generation having seen these players. I watched them
when they come into the league. I was there for
Oh Walton's first game preseason game against the Lakers, seeing
Jerry West when I was thirteen years of age getting
his autograph. Willie May is seeing him I think I
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was seven years of age in spring training in Arizona,
and then you know, fast forward, you're basically doing a
eulogy for all these great players. All right, one hour
of the books? Two more to go? Is today Wednesday
or Thursday? Is it all day? Wednesday?
Speaker 8 (41:31):
Midnight Easter?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Thank you, Tom, Mike Florio Pro Football Talk will join
us John Perry in the final hour