October 9, 2024 • 40 mins
Dan Patrick gives his thoughts on Aaron Rodgers' role in the Jets firing Robert Saleh. Senior NFL Insider for The Athletic Dianna Russini joins Dan to break down how the Jets came to the decision to fire Saleh. Plus, there is a new World Series favorite!
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today tonight. But the big news is the Jets have
fired Robert Solom. That happened yesterday. He won twenty and
lost thirty six in his run as the head coach
of the Jets. So more on this coming up. We'll
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quarterbacking position because Russell Wilson, Junior, the third has been
cleared to practice. All right, the situation with the Jets yesterday,
we spoke about it in real time when we realized
that the Jets had fired Robert Sala, and I think
by all accounts, Robert Sala had done his job. He's
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a defensive minded head coach. The problem is the offense.
But Robert Sala and Aaron Rodgers, whether they were on
the same page or not, doesn't matter, because Robert Sala
is going to get the blame. You can't fire the quarterback.
Aaron Rodgers came in and you kind of gave him
total autonomy. Robert Sala looked like he was trying to
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coexist with Aaron Rodgers, but the offense is the reason
why they're in this position, and Aaron Rodgers hasn't lived
up to his end of the bargain so far, and
now you fire your head coach. Also, there have been
numerous reports about Robert Sala being escorted out of the
building yesterday, and a couple of different reporters said that
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there's a security guy who walked Robert Sala to his car,
which is protocol. It's not like they were forcibly removing
him from the premises or anything of that nature. So
that's rich Semini, who covers the jets. I think at
first we thought, oh my gosh, they're escorting him out
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as much as we fired you, and this is what
protocol is. It sounded I think worse than oh my gosh,
what's he gonna do? Are they going to make sure
he doesn't have a confrontation with Aaron Rodgers? I think
it was just and now this happened to a couple
of friends who left ESPN and they told management they
were taking another job. They were escorted out of the building.
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A little bit different here. This is the head coach.
This is the head coach, and maybe it's just protocol,
you'll walk him out. It sounded a little bit like,
oh my god, they're forcing him out, or you got
four armed guards with him.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It was Hey, we're going to walk you out to
your car.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I don't know if they were worried about him stealing secrets,
like what secrets could you possibly have? And if you
had secrets, wouldn't you have used those to keep your job? Hey,
whatever you do, don't take the offensive game plan out
of the building. No, no, please take the offensive game
plan out of the building. All right, Satan, what's the
poll question? We're gonna go with.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
More to blame for the jets struggles? Okay, the head coach,
the quarterback, the owner. I'm gonna throw the offensive coordinator
in there. But this maybe room that we can talk
about the fourth But to me, the OC seems to
be getting.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
A pass Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Who's to blame more responsible? Responsible?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Let's not put blame out there. Why don't we say
who's more responsible?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, I'm gonna put it on Aaron Rodgers because Rogers
he got to bring in his guys, whether it was
Randall Cobb or Alan Lazard. He got to bring in
his offensive coordinator, Nathaniel Hackett. And the issue has been
the offense. He's missing an action during the summer. He's
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on a vacation to Egypt, the Ayahuasca, you know, journey
as well. He missed all of last season. You're coming
back from an Achilles and you need to be there.
You need to be there because your teammates are getting
used to you. They didn't get used to you last year.
You needed to be there. So I'm going to start there.
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The blame should be on Aaron Rodgers. I'm going to
start there, and then you can trickle down. Nathaniel Hackett's
his guy. So if you're going to say, oh, Nathaniel
Hackett the offensive coordinator, well who brought him in?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Aaron Rodgers did.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And I don't think this is a case of Aaron
goes to Nathaniel Hackett and goes, okay, sense, enlighten me.
I think it's more of a hey, we're buddies. Hey,
you know, I'm thinking we're going to do this. Yeah,
sounds good to me. All right, go get him. I
don't think there's a pecking order or a chain of command.
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There feels like Aaron Rodgers is running the Jets and.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Now we're going to fight out.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Now you want to run the Jets, go get them
because this is a winnable division. They could easily win
eleven games this year, or could have, so two is out.
The Patriots are going with a rookie quarterback and Buffalo.
Buffalo may have played a little bit over their heads
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so far. This is a winnable division. You score nine
points at home against the Broncos, you go to London
and the quarterback that you jettison so you could take
Zach Wilson is leading a team that's undefeated.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Not a good situation. Not good.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, Pauling, I think after a day of thinking about this,
I'm usually anti mid season firing. I think, if you're
Woody Johnson, you did the right thing here. If it
was inevitable that the guy's going to be fired, let's
try to jump start this season and not lose this season.
With what you said. You have one team to beat
in this division, one team.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And if they beat the Bills on Monday night, there
in first place. Isn't that crazy? I never would have
brought Robert sala back this year, but I think they
were trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I don't have any insights, I don't have any contacts
with the Jets, but just let's apply logic, which is
what I try to do, and that is Okay, Aaron
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played four plays, Let's get the band back together and
try it one more time and see if it's going
to work. I think Aaron was. Was he on the
same page with Robert Salah? I don't know. I don't
even know if they were in the same book. I
don't I know if they were in the same library.
I don't think anybody's on the same page with Aaron
Rodgers and Robert sala Is. Probably how many times did
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he go to a press conference and he would have
to explain, defend, you know, it just felt like, hey,
where's Aaron?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Then he said it's an unexcused absence there, which I
was like, WHOA, Okay, it should be an unexcused absence
when you're in Egypt and everybody else is there off
season workouts like.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
This is on aeron. This is Aaron. You're a leader,
You're getting paid. You're in New York.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You know everybody's all in, let's go, but you weren't
all in. And now you really have to prove, like
this shouldn't be your legacy. This might be your legacy.
People forget about all the great things that you did.
Green Bay couldn't wait to get you out of the building,
and they flourished and they found their quarterback. You know,
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Denver was going to go all in on Aaron Rodgers
because that's why they hired Nathaniel Hackett. Hey, if we
hire you, will Aaron come here?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And the Jets have announced they have signed Aaron Rodgers
and then Aaron brings.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
This guy in. You want this now prove it? Go
out there be great? Yes, Mark.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
If Hackett wasn't Roger's boy, these have been like a
Matt Canada situation in Pittsburgh where we know what the
problem is and it's the offense. And they got rid
of Hackett.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
They were going to demote him, that's the report. They
were going to demote Nathaniel Hackett this week, and then
all of a sudden they fired Robert saw But Diana
Rossini will join us coming up.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
She'll have some information on this.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
The Jets have the twenty sixth ranked offense, they have
the fifth ranked defense.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Who now stead of the day, stalla a day, statuta day,
stall outa day, this is the state of the day.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
All you have to do is be average average offensively,
be a little better than you were last year. Was
Zach Wilson, because remember it was Zach Wilson was the
problem last year? And while he was, who's the problem
this year? Can't blame it on Zach Wilson. It's on
Aaron Rodgers. You're supposed to make these guys better. Great
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quarterbacks make good players even better. Mahomes is doing that
in Kansas City. Brady made a career out of doing this.
This is what you need to do. And it's not
that Aaron didn't do that in Green Bay because a
lot of those receivers and tight ends became better because
of him. Now you have to do it. Here is
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your career. You got one more year, and how attractive
is this job. I would never take this job. And
if you said Rogers is coming back one more year,
absolutely not. If you said this is Aaron's last year, okay,
I would I would consider the job. I don't want
to walk into this. Do you think Bill Belichick wants
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to walk into this? Mike Rabel wants to walk into this?
I wouldn't it.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Just it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It may get us before it gets better.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But I can't image everybody's like, oh Belichick, he's the guy,
or Mike Rabel, Okay, they might be. First thing I
would ask is what's Aaron's contract situation. I would not
wanting back if I'm taking that job long term.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
No way.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So now you have a coach you fired, and now
you have a vacancy, and now how attractive is the job?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's New York, it's the Jets. You got a chance
to revitalize. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
If you win a championship, I would run. I would
not want that job, all right. Seeing one other poll
questions you're considering.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Well, how do we word a question about how desirable
that job is the Jets head coaching position.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Because.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You have like, obviously any job in the NFL is
highly desirable. Yes, but but I think it depends on
the caliber of coach you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yes, yes, Paul, I think I got it.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Let's assume a couple jobs were open. Let's assume Jacksonville
and the Jets were open with what you know right now,
and the offer was the same.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Which one you take?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, I want to be careful. I don't want to
do that to Doug Peterson. Yeah, I don't want to
do that because this is real Jacksonville's hypothetical. I think
if I think if you said Jets opening or another
opening around the NFL without getting specific, I just don't
think the Jets' job is attractive because of Aaron Rodgers,
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as strange as that's going to sound, but he's got
a year left on his contract.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It almost feels like this is it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yes, so is the question does Aaron Rodgers make the
Jets job more attractive or less? Are we allowed to
do that?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, because right now it's not attractive. He's not playing
great mobility wise. I mean we saw glimpses. I mean
they beat the Patriots and we're going, oh my god,
and then you realize they beat the Patriots. I mean
they could have lost to the Titans. But they've been
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in games because of their defense. What's the offensive play
where you go, how about that magic there? Like we're
we're not seeing anything. No running game. You know the
problem with the cadence, like, what are we doing? Maybe
if you're there in the off season and you're working
with your teammates and they do understand you and they
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do get your cadence. Although I didn't buy into that excuse,
and Robert slid backtrack from that, but still, and then
all of a sudden Rogers go, well, maybe there should
be some accountability. Okay, accountability is the off season two
where you have to be accountable.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You're the leader.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's on vacation time, got the rest of your life.
This is when you needed to be there for your
teammates so they see you in the building. And yes,
it sounds corny. First one to show up, last one
to leave. How many players have we heard talk about their.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Quarterbacks that way?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Shows up, he's there, he leaves late. That's what Aaron
needs to do. You got to be a leader here.
This is your ultimate litmus test of This is when
you show you're truly one of the greats of all
time instead of somebody who was really great but had
very little to show in the postseason. Yes, you have
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a super Bowl. We're going to look at your career
the same way. You know Brett Farv at least when
Farv went to the Vikings and Jets. He played well,
but we're going to look back and say he underachieved
with that greatness and that's it sounds crazy to say that,
as talented as he's been to win those MVPs and
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then you go, yeah, they got one super Bowl, Yes.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Mark, and I think him winning the Super Bowl early.
I think he wanted maybe his twenty six or twenty seven.
We thought, or at least I did. Oh went, he's
going back to another three or four?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, you have all those.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Home playoff losses too, like he was losing these games
at home.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
All right, let me take a break. Diana Rassini will
add more to this. We'll get to phone calls coming up.
Playoff baseball yesterday awesome, man, was it? I watched just
about all of the Mets and Phillies. When the Padres
put up six runs, I think in the third I
thought that's probably gonna be it for the Dodgers Padres,
and it turned out to be all right.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So we'll take a break. We're back after this Dan
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Speaker 2 (15:58):
I was corresponding with Tony Dungee's down in Tampa and
another hurricane headed that way and just seeing how he
and his family are and might miss the area where
they are. But a lot of people have evacuated. I
think close to five million people have been ordered to
evacuate there. So getting hit again in the South with
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another hurricane. All right, eight seven seven three DP show
email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at
DP show. Diana Rossini from the Athletic. We'll join us
shortly here to talk more about the Jets situation, Aaron
Rodgers situation as they move forward. And you got college
football tonight. It's New Mexico State getting twenty and a
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half against Jacksonville State.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I like Jacksonville State. They're a lot of fun. And
that's rich Rodriguez's team. Is he still head coach there
Jacksonville State?
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Rich?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I think I think so? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I think Rich rod still Jacksonville State? Yeah, I think
he kind of turned that programmer around, reestablish or establish them. Yeah,
they can score, they can score on you quickly. Also,
guess who is listed as the World Series favorites right now.
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If you said the San Diego Padres, you would be correct.
The Padres are now plus three hundred. The Dodgers listed
at plus eight hundred, tied for the fourth best odds
with the Royals. I was waiting to see some passion,
some anger, something from the Dodgers last night, and it
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wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Padres got it. I mean they got that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You may not like how they present themselves, but they.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Have backed it up and this is going to be
one of those if they get on the big stage
in the World Series. I'd be curious how America reacts
to them. But if you they're an acquired taste. But men,
are they good and they got they got some spirit there,
they got some swag there. They're not afraid. I mean,
Dodgers got some big names there, but you're waiting for
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those big names to show up. And if they don't
show up this next game, long long off season, and
to make it worse, it'd be the Padres who advance
at your expense.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Oh my goodness, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Diana Russini, Mother of the Year the Athletics, Senior NFL
insider co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast with Chase,
Daniel and Diana kind enough to join us having a
busy morning in the household, so thank you for joining us.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Mother of the Year, I am I am so not,
I am so not. Yesterday was a day, Dan. You know,
news never stops and you can't really predict it, so
you got to You gotta be quick on your feet
dealing with these little kids when stuff's going on, and
we're potty training right now. So I'm not sure if
it was some sort of symbolism yesterday, but let's just
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say Mikey's having a hard time with it. So we
were dealing with that in the middle of taking some
calls trying to piece together what happened in New York
with the Jets, so you could use your imagination and
imagine what it was I was dealing with yesterday. It
was awesome, It was. It was quite a day in
the Racini household.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You know, Chefty doesn't have to deal with that, or
Woje never had to deal with that, but you're dealing
with potty training, so we appreciate the double duty. Did
you say how about that?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
That was clever that's crushed double duty.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Thank you, thank you? All right, walk me through this.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
How did we get to this point where the Jets
do something they haven't done since the mid seventies, and
that's fire their coach mid season, not.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Even mid season, not even exactly to early August, early
October we were at And I think that's why there
was a feeling of shock yesterday from everyone the fan
be people in the building and obviously people following and
covering this team. And it's shocking not because Robert Salad
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was fired. I don't think anyone was stunned by that.
It's just, of course the timing of when this went down.
As you know, they lose to the Denver Broncos and
then lose to the Minnesota Vikings in London. So the
way it was explained to me after collecting some information
yesterday was, you know what, he got back to the
States on Monday, made a few calls to people with
the Jets organization, didn't tell anyone that this is what
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he was definitely doing, but definitely game across, annoyed, bothered, angry,
and I had heard that he had felt that after
the Broncos loss at Matt left stadium in the rain
when they lost the bon Nix that he was not
a happy owner after that. So it didn't help that
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they had that long flight home after losing to Sam
Darnold and the Vikings. So the conversations he's had he
had with people in the Jets front office as well
as Aaron Rodgers, he did not tell them, from what
I understand, I am coming into the office tomorrow to
fire Robert Sala. He just told them that he was
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considering it. So Tuesday morning he showed up into the
office and had that direct conversation with Sala that he's
going to be moving on from him, and Sala attempted
to lay out a bit of a case. I've got
a top five defense, I've got a top five social
teens unit right now, we could potentially be first in
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the division depending on what we do on Monday night.
And Woody Johnson just believes that if they don't make
this change right now, that this entire season is going
down the drain.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But I don't know if Robert Sala was willing to
demote Nathaniel Hackett as offensive coordinator as a way of saying,
I'll make changes, keep me here. My defense is great,
let's change the offense. Do you think that that was
on the.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (22:01):
I don't think he ever had any plans of firing
Todd excuse me, firing on Nathaniel Hackett. I think it
was to move Todd Downing into a bigger role. He's
the quarterbacks coach. Remember he was the offensive coordinator in
Tennessee with the Titans there. Keith Carter is the offensive
line coach. In New York, Tony Dues is the running
back coach. And the reason why I named these guys
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they were all together in Tennessee, so you have a
lot of the same kind of mindset, familiarity with one another.
But then you have Nathaniel Hackett in there overseeing all
of it. And so I think the thought from Sala's
side to it, and even perhaps the rest of the
coaching staff, which we will see over the next few hours,
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if they decide to do what I think Sala wanted
to do here, which was promote Todd Downing to have
a little bit more offensive responsibility play calling, and pull
Nathaniel Hackett back. The question we don't know though, is
Aaron Rodgers willing to do that? Because I have never
seen a quarterback in the time I've covered football have
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the deep loyalty that he does to Nathaniel Hackett as
much as Aaron Rodgers does do I think Aaron Rodgers
is seeing what we're seeing, though, And you know that's
something that I'm curious over because there's no way Aaron
Rodgers thinks that this is good enough.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
What's Aaron Rodgers' role in all of this?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Sala being fired, the offense, struggling, Nathaniel Hackett keeping his job,
feels like he's got Is it total autonomy here, Diana?
Speaker 9 (23:34):
Yeah, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers has This is Aaron Rodgers' ship.
This is his boat. Everyone else everyone's on it. He's
right in this thing. He's the captain of the ship.
Joe Douglas is the general manager. Robert Sala was the
head coach. Jeff Olbrick is now the interim. But everything
runs through Aaron. And I know I mentioned that. I
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don't think Woody asked Aaron if he was okay if
he fired Robert Sala. I think wood he did it
on his own without Rogers saying yes or no. And
I do actually believe Sala and Rogers have a decent relationship.
I don't think it's thriving, and I don't think they're
bff and golfing together. I don't think it's like that.
But I think they were fine with one another. I
think Rogers liked the fact that sala was willing to
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listen to him and do the things he wanted to do,
not everything. I don't think Salad did everything Rogers told
him to do, but he certainly had a very open
door policy with letting Rogers come in his office and
be part of a lot of the decision making. Even
in the off season with free agents in their draft,
Rogers was part of everything. And that's the way they
want it. That is the way Woody Johnson wants it
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to be. He wants Aaron Rodgers to have all this
say because they believe that he's the one that has
won before and he knows how.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Diana Rossini from The Athletic, their senior NFL insider, I'm
wondering how attractive this job is going to be. And
I never thought I would say this that it's less
a attractive because Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback, Diane, And.
Speaker 9 (25:04):
No, it is a great thought because I've been digging
on that. You know, since Sala was fired yesterday, all right, well,
what's the long term plan here? Now? What do they
want to do?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Who?
Speaker 9 (25:16):
You know, let's say, look, I hope Jeff Olbert steps
in here and turns this thing around for them. I
hope he's the guy. I hope they go, oh my gosh,
he was here the whole time. We just didn't say it.
But we know how this works. It's probably not going
to be the case. I also think he has a
really uphild battle here to try to sort out how
he wants to do it and be part of this
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defense has been remarkable, but also fix the offense, because
we all know that's the problem. Rogers hasn't been great.
He's had little snippets that we've seen. So who wants
to work for Woody Johnson? That's going to be the question.
And you know, the needs that are floating around are
of course, the coaches who are available in high respected
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around the league, like a Bill Belichick, like a Mike Rabel.
But these are two head coaches, in my opinion, or
candidates that are gonna have choices. So they're going to
probably want to work for an owner that they believe
knows what they're doing, and historically, I think we have
a lot of questions about what Woody Johnson's doing. So
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I think we should probably put to bed the Bill
Belichick to the New York Jets conversation. I think it's
a fun idea. I think it's it's sometimes humorous, obviously
with knowing the way it ended with Bill Belichick in
New York. But Bill Belichick wants to work for a
really good owner, and I don't believe that he thinks
Woody Johnson is.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Are the Giants in a better situation than the Jets are?
You know?
Speaker 9 (26:47):
I was thinking about that this morning. I live in
the same neighborhood as Joe Shane and Brian Dabo, and
I always hope I run into them at the coffee
shop because I've seen them there before, and I was
just thinking, man, they must be sitting here, like, come ad,
this is great, Like no one's looking at us. We
won in remarkable fashion. Dable's coaching his butt off, Daniel
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Jones looks spectacular. I don't know what world we're in,
but good for the New York Giants right now. I
do appreciate. I know Salah and Dabe all have a
really great relationship. They talk a lot. And look, there's
no way Brian Dabele's not looking at the situation going
this could have been me this week, you know, if
they lose to Seattle, and look, I don't think marav
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is gonna move as fast as we see would he
move on on a firing. But I don't think anyone
in New York and the Giants organizations feels comfortable, Like
no one's sitting there going we're coming back next year,
not yet, but obviously getting a win, you know, being
the winners of New York for right now, it's got
to feel good.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Do you think there'll be another opening this season or
another firing.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Across the NFL?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, during the season, Oh yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah there will be because Dan, you know
how this works. Once a team sees one go down,
it's like whoa ball, It's open up the floodgates, like
someone's like, let you know, it's like kind of like
it also, I'll plants the sea two of Oh yeah,
I can fire people during the year. Uh So, I
think we're just getting started. It's just early, which is
(28:21):
why you know it's it is It is hard to
have that conversation of, oh, what are they thinking for next? Already?
Because this is early I haven't covered a firing of
the head coach this early season in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Mother of the Year Diana Racini, a Athletics senior NFL insider,
and the great podcast The Athletic Scoop City with our
good buddy Chase Daniel. Thank you, good to talk to
you again, Diana Dan.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
If I'm Mom of the Year, then the Jets are
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Champons, Okay, thank you, Diana Russini, The Athletic and the
Podcast with Chase Daniel Scoop City.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, I don't think this is attractive job.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And it's because I'm gonna have to deal with Aaron
Rodgers again in the offseason. Is he gonna play, how
involved he gonna be? What changes have to be made?
Is Nathaniel Hackett have to stay in that position like
they don't want it? And I think he turns forty
one in December. I think he's forty one this year.
(29:22):
I know age is just a number, but I'm watching
somebody who is looking like they're forty one.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Brady never looked like he was forty forty two. Forty five.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I mean, you're just looking at him and you just
don't it's he had ballet type feet. He was so
good and he can't be that way. I mean, just
put the age on his body. Then you have the
Achilles injury and there's no spark. There's no sparkle with
this offense. They need Devonte Adams and I don't even
(29:55):
know if that's the answer, but that's that's the only
possible answer are out there other than maybe we change
our playbook, maybe we're not predictable, maybe we're able to
run the ball a little bit. But what you're seeing
right now, they are very, very generic when it comes
(30:15):
to offense. Mitch in South Carolina, Hi, Mitch, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Hey, what's up? What's going on? Man?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:28):
About that? I was just calling the worrying about the
Aaron Rodgers thing. I guess I was just wondering if
since they got rid of Fallow, is New York trying
to shift to a more offensive mindset, to where Diana
said they want Aaron to take over the room a
little more and want him say so. So I'm guessing
(30:50):
with both of this firing and with Diana saying what
she just did.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And I think it's it's Aaron's room, thank you, Mitch.
It's already his room. It's not like something changes because
you fired Robert Sama. You still have your offensive coordinator
there now. If you fire your offensive coordinator now, Aaron
can take credit if the offense gets better.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Mike and Florida. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Hey man, I'm just six seven to seventy five currently
on High seventy five North's Headache out of Florida into Georgia.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, good luck with that evacuation there, Mike.
Speaker 10 (31:36):
Yeah, we got about one hundred and eighty miles a go.
I'm gonna have you guys on the radio the whole
time and get us through the shot.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
What's any how many people are you saying? I mean,
is this seventy five back? I mean Cardono.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
No, we waited until this morning to leave, so everybody
is probably already evacuated. But it's raining pretty good. We
got a three car caravan, my daughters behind me and
my wife's behind her, and we got our casts with
us and we're hit.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
It out all right.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well, we hope to entertain you. Do you want to
hear more of Fritzie or less of Fritzy to help
you with you know, the evacuated. Okay, then America is spoken.
Mike cast leaving Florida, smile on my face. Do you
have anything special for America today? You're the Minister of humor.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
We love Mike.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
We hate everyone else, but we love Mike.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Mike knows what's good.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Mike knows what's We could appreciate Mike.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
And he's going to be in his vehicle and he's
going to listen to our show and it's going to
be a lovely thing and we love him.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Oh oh, you're doing your Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
My voice, doing lines that he would say.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh okay, but not sounding not actually soundings.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
We've established that my bad impersonation of Doal Trump.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
But we can we could reinforce that.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Okay, yes, yes, you know, since we're doing it. I
don't want to take Fritzy's thunder. But did you ever
hear my Barack Obama imitation? I'm Barack Obama and I'm
president of the right state. Wow, I'm from Chicago and
I like the Cubs and the Sox.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Man, I thought you stuck slow when you finished fast.
If you see the facial things I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's really yeah, kind of that's Todd's thing. I'm sorry,
like his his Donald Trump impersonation.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It really hinges on his hands. That's it. Nothing else.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
And the radio audience loves that.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, the radio.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Audience is like, wow, I can only imagine what the
hand say is. Yeah, all right, how about terrible.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
It's terrible that I do the hand things in the
radio audience can't appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
To take a break, here we are and yeah, our
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Speaker 1 (33:40):
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Of those Hey is it going to stay fair? And
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I'm going to admire this once again, their presentation is
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(34:47):
West teams and their fans, they already know these are
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Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah, Pauline, So you're thinking maybe the older old school,
which has redundant fanbase with baseball, will be like not
so big in the Padres. But yeah, then younger people.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think the younger people probably appreciate their style.
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Their swag.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
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Their uniforms. Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
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Drake May situation was surprising because I thought you know what,
you're going to have him start. Granted, I think it's
a home game against the Texans, but the Texans are
a good team with a good pass rush. And I thought,
could you wait until do they have a bye week
after this game? And then I thought, maybe you bring
him in. I mean, you're not winning anything, and I
(36:03):
don't know if there's an ideal game situation.
Speaker 10 (36:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I do want a home game, a one o'clock game. Well,
you're not gonna play four o'clock or Sunday night because
you're the Patriots, but a one o'clock game, kind of
a nondescript opponent. Bye week next week or this week Texans,
then bye week, Paul.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Yeah, this week against the Texans, who are top three
in the league in quarterback pressures. Next week they had
the Jaguars. Okay, you don't wait, and then then you
got Jets, Titans, Bears.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh so they don't have a bye week. I not
for a while. For a while, I don't see it.
All right, Well, then throw him in. Let's see what
he can do.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I guess I would probably now was Jacksonville Patriots.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Jacksonville is in London. I think.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
If it goes bad, no one's watching.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
At least you get the nine to thirty am sort
of slut. I don't understand why you would trot out
a new are back in front of a home crowd
to get destroyed, booed at home in your very first
game as you trot off the field. I don't know
why you would do that.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
But what happens when they pull off the upset?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Hey, we found our Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
That comparison is going to go well for you. I'm
calling it. We found our Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
No, we found our Brady, and it could be Brady Quinn,
Kyle Brady, Kyle Brady.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
The Bills at the Jets on Monday night? God, is
this awesome?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It could be deliciously devastating, but it could be awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
The Bills are favored by two against the Jets on
Monday night. God, it's good. That's good? All right?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
A couple more phone calls in here. Jamis in Utah, Hi, jameis.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
Hey, Damn six one two fifteen, first time, long time
since I was sixteen, about eight years ago. I'm just
wanted to comments on the Aaron Rodgers situation. Sure, I
feel like Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson in Denver, DeShawn Watson,
(38:18):
even Brett Favre with the Jets. It seems a lot
like the super trend, the super team trend in the NBA,
where it gets the fans fired up. It seems to
everyone thinks he's going to lead the wins, but it
kind of mortgages the franchise and unless you have Lebron
or Tom Brady, it never really works well.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
The Jets, they were swinging for the fences, and I
understand Rogers was going to be available, but you know,
it's when you bring in somebody and then he wants
to bring in his guy, and like, you're, no other
quarterback has this autonomy. Brady didn't have it, Patrick Mahomes
(38:59):
doesn't have it like that. There has to be a
pecking order here, and it never felt like it felt
like Aaron Rodgers was running the organization was more important
than the head coach. And you can't have that because
you still have a locker room. Those players want to know,
all right, who's accountable here? Is that guy who's our
(39:21):
quarterback going to be accountable? Is he with us? Was
he here in the off season? I mean, just apply
logic to this of how would you feel somebody comes
in You've been there for a few years, all of
a sudden, Hey, this how we're going to do it. Hey,
I'm not going to be there. I'm in Egypt. Hey
I blew out my achilles. I'm not playing in the preseason. Hey,
(39:43):
we got problems with our offense, you know, our timing,
our cadence. I mean, the defense has lived up to
its end of the bargain. And if you're a member
of the defensive team and this happens in locker rooms,
you look at the offense and you're like, you guys
are costing us. Just letting you know. That's how it works.
(40:07):
It happened with the Ravens when they won a Super Bowl.
They basically said to Trent dilferd get us ten points
and will win. And that's what happened. The defense with
the Jets is that's a top five defense. The offense
was supposed to be a top ten offense. And if
they were, we would be talking about the Jets differently,
(40:29):
and Robert Salad would still be there and Aaron Rodgers
would be going, hey, I told you I'm coming back
another year. Now you've got a game on Monday night
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And we made it to a Wednesday. It's hour one.
Gangs all here, ready to go, Minister of Humor. Also Seaton,
Marv Pauli, yours truly in the back room. Guys, got
some playoff baseball to talk about, Man, these are intense,
intense matchups. Mets beat the Phillies and the Padres over
the Dodgers. So Mets up to to one, Padres up
(00:29):
to one. All four baseball playoff games coming up later
today tonight. But the big news is the Jets have
fired Robert Solom. That happened yesterday. He won twenty and
lost thirty six in his run as the head coach
of the Jets. So more on this coming up. We'll
talk to Diana Russini from the Athletics. She's been all
over this story. The New York sports legend Mike Francesa
(00:53):
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(01:37):
quarterbacking position because Russell Wilson, Junior, the third has been
cleared to practice. All right, the situation with the Jets yesterday,
we spoke about it in real time when we realized
that the Jets had fired Robert Sala, and I think
by all accounts, Robert Sala had done his job. He's
(01:58):
a defensive minded head coach. The problem is the offense.
But Robert Sala and Aaron Rodgers, whether they were on
the same page or not, doesn't matter, because Robert Sala
is going to get the blame. You can't fire the quarterback.
Aaron Rodgers came in and you kind of gave him
total autonomy. Robert Sala looked like he was trying to
(02:19):
coexist with Aaron Rodgers, but the offense is the reason
why they're in this position, and Aaron Rodgers hasn't lived
up to his end of the bargain so far, and
now you fire your head coach. Also, there have been
numerous reports about Robert Sala being escorted out of the
building yesterday, and a couple of different reporters said that
(02:42):
there's a security guy who walked Robert Sala to his car,
which is protocol. It's not like they were forcibly removing
him from the premises or anything of that nature. So
that's rich Semini, who covers the jets. I think at
first we thought, oh my gosh, they're escorting him out
(03:03):
as much as we fired you, and this is what
protocol is. It sounded I think worse than oh my gosh,
what's he gonna do? Are they going to make sure
he doesn't have a confrontation with Aaron Rodgers? I think
it was just and now this happened to a couple
of friends who left ESPN and they told management they
were taking another job. They were escorted out of the building.
(03:25):
A little bit different here. This is the head coach.
This is the head coach, and maybe it's just protocol,
you'll walk him out. It sounded a little bit like,
oh my god, they're forcing him out, or you got
four armed guards with him.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It was Hey, we're going to walk you out to
your car.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I don't know if they were worried about him stealing secrets,
like what secrets could you possibly have? And if you
had secrets, wouldn't you have used those to keep your job? Hey,
whatever you do, don't take the offensive game plan out
of the building. No, no, please take the offensive game
plan out of the building. All right, Satan, what's the
poll question? We're gonna go with.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
More to blame for the jets struggles? Okay, the head coach,
the quarterback, the owner. I'm gonna throw the offensive coordinator
in there. But this maybe room that we can talk
about the fourth But to me, the OC seems to
be getting.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
A pass Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Who's to blame more responsible? Responsible?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Let's not put blame out there. Why don't we say
who's more responsible?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, I'm gonna put it on Aaron Rodgers because Rogers
he got to bring in his guys, whether it was
Randall Cobb or Alan Lazard. He got to bring in
his offensive coordinator, Nathaniel Hackett. And the issue has been
the offense. He's missing an action during the summer. He's
(04:57):
on a vacation to Egypt, the Ayahuasca, you know, journey
as well. He missed all of last season. You're coming
back from an Achilles and you need to be there.
You need to be there because your teammates are getting
used to you. They didn't get used to you last year.
You needed to be there. So I'm going to start there.
(05:19):
The blame should be on Aaron Rodgers. I'm going to
start there, and then you can trickle down. Nathaniel Hackett's
his guy. So if you're going to say, oh, Nathaniel
Hackett the offensive coordinator, well who brought him in?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Aaron Rodgers did.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And I don't think this is a case of Aaron
goes to Nathaniel Hackett and goes, okay, sense, enlighten me.
I think it's more of a hey, we're buddies. Hey,
you know, I'm thinking we're going to do this. Yeah,
sounds good to me. All right, go get him. I
don't think there's a pecking order or a chain of command.
(05:54):
There feels like Aaron Rodgers is running the Jets and.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Now we're going to fight out.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Now you want to run the Jets, go get them
because this is a winnable division. They could easily win
eleven games this year, or could have, so two is out.
The Patriots are going with a rookie quarterback and Buffalo.
Buffalo may have played a little bit over their heads
(06:21):
so far. This is a winnable division. You score nine
points at home against the Broncos, you go to London
and the quarterback that you jettison so you could take
Zach Wilson is leading a team that's undefeated.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Not a good situation. Not good.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, Pauling, I think after a day of thinking about this,
I'm usually anti mid season firing. I think, if you're
Woody Johnson, you did the right thing here. If it
was inevitable that the guy's going to be fired, let's
try to jump start this season and not lose this season.
With what you said. You have one team to beat
in this division, one team.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And if they beat the Bills on Monday night, there
in first place. Isn't that crazy? I never would have
brought Robert sala back this year, but I think they
were trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I don't have any insights, I don't have any contacts
with the Jets, but just let's apply logic, which is
what I try to do, and that is Okay, Aaron
(07:22):
played four plays, Let's get the band back together and
try it one more time and see if it's going
to work. I think Aaron was. Was he on the
same page with Robert Salah? I don't know. I don't
even know if they were in the same book. I
don't I know if they were in the same library.
I don't think anybody's on the same page with Aaron
Rodgers and Robert sala Is. Probably how many times did
(07:45):
he go to a press conference and he would have
to explain, defend, you know, it just felt like, hey,
where's Aaron?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Then he said it's an unexcused absence there, which I
was like, WHOA, Okay, it should be an unexcused absence
when you're in Egypt and everybody else is there off
season workouts like.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
This is on aeron. This is Aaron. You're a leader,
You're getting paid. You're in New York.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You know everybody's all in, let's go, but you weren't
all in. And now you really have to prove, like
this shouldn't be your legacy. This might be your legacy.
People forget about all the great things that you did.
Green Bay couldn't wait to get you out of the building,
and they flourished and they found their quarterback. You know,
(08:37):
Denver was going to go all in on Aaron Rodgers
because that's why they hired Nathaniel Hackett. Hey, if we
hire you, will Aaron come here?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And the Jets have announced they have signed Aaron Rodgers
and then Aaron brings.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
This guy in. You want this now prove it? Go
out there be great? Yes, Mark.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
If Hackett wasn't Roger's boy, these have been like a
Matt Canada situation in Pittsburgh where we know what the
problem is and it's the offense. And they got rid
of Hackett.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
They were going to demote him, that's the report. They
were going to demote Nathaniel Hackett this week, and then
all of a sudden they fired Robert saw But Diana
Rossini will join us coming up.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
She'll have some information on this.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
The Jets have the twenty sixth ranked offense, they have
the fifth ranked defense.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Who now stead of the day, stalla a day, statuta day,
stall outa day, this is the state of the day.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
All you have to do is be average average offensively,
be a little better than you were last year. Was
Zach Wilson, because remember it was Zach Wilson was the
problem last year? And while he was, who's the problem
this year? Can't blame it on Zach Wilson. It's on
Aaron Rodgers. You're supposed to make these guys better. Great
(10:04):
quarterbacks make good players even better. Mahomes is doing that
in Kansas City. Brady made a career out of doing this.
This is what you need to do. And it's not
that Aaron didn't do that in Green Bay because a
lot of those receivers and tight ends became better because
of him. Now you have to do it. Here is
(10:27):
your career. You got one more year, and how attractive
is this job. I would never take this job. And
if you said Rogers is coming back one more year,
absolutely not. If you said this is Aaron's last year, okay,
I would I would consider the job. I don't want
to walk into this. Do you think Bill Belichick wants
(10:49):
to walk into this? Mike Rabel wants to walk into this?
I wouldn't it.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Just it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It may get us before it gets better.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But I can't image everybody's like, oh Belichick, he's the guy,
or Mike Rabel, Okay, they might be. First thing I
would ask is what's Aaron's contract situation. I would not
wanting back if I'm taking that job long term.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
No way.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So now you have a coach you fired, and now
you have a vacancy, and now how attractive is the job?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It's New York, it's the Jets. You got a chance
to revitalize. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
If you win a championship, I would run. I would
not want that job, all right. Seeing one other poll
questions you're considering.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Well, how do we word a question about how desirable
that job is the Jets head coaching position.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Because.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You have like, obviously any job in the NFL is
highly desirable. Yes, but but I think it depends on
the caliber of coach you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yes, yes, Paul, I think I got it.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Let's assume a couple jobs were open. Let's assume Jacksonville
and the Jets were open with what you know right now,
and the offer was the same.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Which one you take?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, I want to be careful. I don't want to
do that to Doug Peterson. Yeah, I don't want to
do that because this is real Jacksonville's hypothetical. I think
if I think if you said Jets opening or another
opening around the NFL without getting specific, I just don't
think the Jets' job is attractive because of Aaron Rodgers,
(12:42):
as strange as that's going to sound, but he's got
a year left on his contract.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It almost feels like this is it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yes, so is the question does Aaron Rodgers make the
Jets job more attractive or less? Are we allowed to
do that?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, because right now it's not attractive. He's not playing
great mobility wise. I mean we saw glimpses. I mean
they beat the Patriots and we're going, oh my god,
and then you realize they beat the Patriots. I mean
they could have lost to the Titans. But they've been
(13:21):
in games because of their defense. What's the offensive play
where you go, how about that magic there? Like we're
we're not seeing anything. No running game. You know the
problem with the cadence, like, what are we doing? Maybe
if you're there in the off season and you're working
with your teammates and they do understand you and they
(13:42):
do get your cadence. Although I didn't buy into that excuse,
and Robert slid backtrack from that, but still, and then
all of a sudden Rogers go, well, maybe there should
be some accountability. Okay, accountability is the off season two
where you have to be accountable.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You're the leader.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It's on vacation time, got the rest of your life.
This is when you needed to be there for your
teammates so they see you in the building. And yes,
it sounds corny. First one to show up, last one
to leave. How many players have we heard talk about their.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Quarterbacks that way?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Shows up, he's there, he leaves late. That's what Aaron
needs to do. You got to be a leader here.
This is your ultimate litmus test of This is when
you show you're truly one of the greats of all
time instead of somebody who was really great but had
very little to show in the postseason. Yes, you have
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a super Bowl. We're going to look at your career
the same way. You know Brett Farv at least when
Farv went to the Vikings and Jets. He played well,
but we're going to look back and say he underachieved
with that greatness and that's it sounds crazy to say that,
as talented as he's been to win those MVPs and
(15:03):
then you go, yeah, they got one super Bowl, Yes.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Mark, and I think him winning the Super Bowl early.
I think he wanted maybe his twenty six or twenty seven.
We thought, or at least I did. Oh went, he's
going back to another three or four?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, you have all those.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Home playoff losses too, like he was losing these games
at home.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
All right, let me take a break. Diana Rassini will
add more to this. We'll get to phone calls coming up.
Playoff baseball yesterday awesome, man, was it? I watched just
about all of the Mets and Phillies. When the Padres
put up six runs, I think in the third I
thought that's probably gonna be it for the Dodgers Padres,
and it turned out to be all right.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So we'll take a break. We're back after this Dan
Patrick show.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
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Speaker 2 (15:58):
I was corresponding with Tony Dungee's down in Tampa and
another hurricane headed that way and just seeing how he
and his family are and might miss the area where
they are. But a lot of people have evacuated. I
think close to five million people have been ordered to
evacuate there. So getting hit again in the South with
(16:18):
another hurricane. All right, eight seven seven three DP show
email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at
DP show. Diana Rossini from the Athletic. We'll join us
shortly here to talk more about the Jets situation, Aaron
Rodgers situation as they move forward. And you got college
football tonight. It's New Mexico State getting twenty and a
(16:39):
half against Jacksonville State.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I like Jacksonville State. They're a lot of fun. And
that's rich Rodriguez's team. Is he still head coach there
Jacksonville State?
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Rich?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I think I think so? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I think Rich rod still Jacksonville State? Yeah, I think
he kind of turned that programmer around, reestablish or establish them. Yeah,
they can score, they can score on you quickly. Also,
guess who is listed as the World Series favorites right now.
(17:14):
If you said the San Diego Padres, you would be correct.
The Padres are now plus three hundred. The Dodgers listed
at plus eight hundred, tied for the fourth best odds
with the Royals. I was waiting to see some passion,
some anger, something from the Dodgers last night, and it
(17:38):
wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Padres got it. I mean they got that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You may not like how they present themselves, but they.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Have backed it up and this is going to be
one of those if they get on the big stage
in the World Series. I'd be curious how America reacts
to them. But if you they're an acquired taste. But men,
are they good and they got they got some spirit there,
they got some swag there. They're not afraid. I mean,
Dodgers got some big names there, but you're waiting for
(18:09):
those big names to show up. And if they don't
show up this next game, long long off season, and
to make it worse, it'd be the Padres who advance
at your expense.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Oh my goodness, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Diana Russini, Mother of the Year the Athletics, Senior NFL
insider co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast with Chase,
Daniel and Diana kind enough to join us having a
busy morning in the household, so thank you for joining us.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Mother of the Year, I am I am so not,
I am so not. Yesterday was a day, Dan. You know,
news never stops and you can't really predict it, so
you got to You gotta be quick on your feet
dealing with these little kids when stuff's going on, and
we're potty training right now. So I'm not sure if
it was some sort of symbolism yesterday, but let's just
(19:01):
say Mikey's having a hard time with it. So we
were dealing with that in the middle of taking some
calls trying to piece together what happened in New York
with the Jets, so you could use your imagination and
imagine what it was I was dealing with yesterday. It
was awesome, It was. It was quite a day in
the Racini household.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You know, Chefty doesn't have to deal with that, or
Woje never had to deal with that, but you're dealing
with potty training, so we appreciate the double duty. Did
you say how about that?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
That was clever that's crushed double duty.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Thank you, thank you? All right, walk me through this.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
How did we get to this point where the Jets
do something they haven't done since the mid seventies, and
that's fire their coach mid season, not.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Even mid season, not even exactly to early August, early
October we were at And I think that's why there
was a feeling of shock yesterday from everyone the fan
be people in the building and obviously people following and
covering this team. And it's shocking not because Robert Salad
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was fired. I don't think anyone was stunned by that.
It's just, of course the timing of when this went down.
As you know, they lose to the Denver Broncos and
then lose to the Minnesota Vikings in London. So the
way it was explained to me after collecting some information
yesterday was, you know what, he got back to the
States on Monday, made a few calls to people with
the Jets organization, didn't tell anyone that this is what
(20:30):
he was definitely doing, but definitely game across, annoyed, bothered, angry,
and I had heard that he had felt that after
the Broncos loss at Matt left stadium in the rain
when they lost the bon Nix that he was not
a happy owner after that. So it didn't help that
(20:51):
they had that long flight home after losing to Sam
Darnold and the Vikings. So the conversations he's had he
had with people in the Jets front office as well
as Aaron Rodgers, he did not tell them, from what
I understand, I am coming into the office tomorrow to
fire Robert Sala. He just told them that he was
(21:11):
considering it. So Tuesday morning he showed up into the
office and had that direct conversation with Sala that he's
going to be moving on from him, and Sala attempted
to lay out a bit of a case. I've got
a top five defense, I've got a top five social
teens unit right now, we could potentially be first in
(21:31):
the division depending on what we do on Monday night.
And Woody Johnson just believes that if they don't make
this change right now, that this entire season is going
down the drain.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But I don't know if Robert Sala was willing to
demote Nathaniel Hackett as offensive coordinator as a way of saying,
I'll make changes, keep me here. My defense is great,
let's change the offense. Do you think that that was
on the.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (22:01):
I don't think he ever had any plans of firing
Todd excuse me, firing on Nathaniel Hackett. I think it
was to move Todd Downing into a bigger role. He's
the quarterbacks coach. Remember he was the offensive coordinator in
Tennessee with the Titans there. Keith Carter is the offensive
line coach. In New York, Tony Dues is the running
back coach. And the reason why I named these guys
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they were all together in Tennessee, so you have a
lot of the same kind of mindset, familiarity with one another.
But then you have Nathaniel Hackett in there overseeing all
of it. And so I think the thought from Sala's
side to it, and even perhaps the rest of the
coaching staff, which we will see over the next few hours,
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if they decide to do what I think Sala wanted
to do here, which was promote Todd Downing to have
a little bit more offensive responsibility play calling, and pull
Nathaniel Hackett back. The question we don't know though, is
Aaron Rodgers willing to do that? Because I have never
seen a quarterback in the time I've covered football have
(23:05):
the deep loyalty that he does to Nathaniel Hackett as
much as Aaron Rodgers does do I think Aaron Rodgers
is seeing what we're seeing, though, And you know that's
something that I'm curious over because there's no way Aaron
Rodgers thinks that this is good enough.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
What's Aaron Rodgers' role in all of this?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Sala being fired, the offense, struggling, Nathaniel Hackett keeping his job,
feels like he's got Is it total autonomy here, Diana?
Speaker 9 (23:34):
Yeah, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers has This is Aaron Rodgers' ship.
This is his boat. Everyone else everyone's on it. He's
right in this thing. He's the captain of the ship.
Joe Douglas is the general manager. Robert Sala was the
head coach. Jeff Olbrick is now the interim. But everything
runs through Aaron. And I know I mentioned that. I
(23:58):
don't think Woody asked Aaron if he was okay if
he fired Robert Sala. I think wood he did it
on his own without Rogers saying yes or no. And
I do actually believe Sala and Rogers have a decent relationship.
I don't think it's thriving, and I don't think they're
bff and golfing together. I don't think it's like that.
But I think they were fine with one another. I
think Rogers liked the fact that sala was willing to
(24:21):
listen to him and do the things he wanted to do,
not everything. I don't think Salad did everything Rogers told
him to do, but he certainly had a very open
door policy with letting Rogers come in his office and
be part of a lot of the decision making. Even
in the off season with free agents in their draft,
Rogers was part of everything. And that's the way they
want it. That is the way Woody Johnson wants it
(24:42):
to be. He wants Aaron Rodgers to have all this
say because they believe that he's the one that has
won before and he knows how.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Diana Rossini from The Athletic, their senior NFL insider, I'm
wondering how attractive this job is going to be. And
I never thought I would say this that it's less
a attractive because Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback, Diane, And.
Speaker 9 (25:04):
No, it is a great thought because I've been digging
on that. You know, since Sala was fired yesterday, all right, well,
what's the long term plan here? Now? What do they
want to do?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Who?
Speaker 9 (25:16):
You know, let's say, look, I hope Jeff Olbert steps
in here and turns this thing around for them. I
hope he's the guy. I hope they go, oh my gosh,
he was here the whole time. We just didn't say it.
But we know how this works. It's probably not going
to be the case. I also think he has a
really uphild battle here to try to sort out how
he wants to do it and be part of this
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defense has been remarkable, but also fix the offense, because
we all know that's the problem. Rogers hasn't been great.
He's had little snippets that we've seen. So who wants
to work for Woody Johnson? That's going to be the question.
And you know, the needs that are floating around are
of course, the coaches who are available in high respected
(26:00):
around the league, like a Bill Belichick, like a Mike Rabel.
But these are two head coaches, in my opinion, or
candidates that are gonna have choices. So they're going to
probably want to work for an owner that they believe
knows what they're doing, and historically, I think we have
a lot of questions about what Woody Johnson's doing. So
(26:23):
I think we should probably put to bed the Bill
Belichick to the New York Jets conversation. I think it's
a fun idea. I think it's it's sometimes humorous, obviously
with knowing the way it ended with Bill Belichick in
New York. But Bill Belichick wants to work for a
really good owner, and I don't believe that he thinks
Woody Johnson is.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Are the Giants in a better situation than the Jets are?
You know?
Speaker 9 (26:47):
I was thinking about that this morning. I live in
the same neighborhood as Joe Shane and Brian Dabo, and
I always hope I run into them at the coffee
shop because I've seen them there before, and I was
just thinking, man, they must be sitting here, like, come ad,
this is great, Like no one's looking at us. We
won in remarkable fashion. Dable's coaching his butt off, Daniel
(27:09):
Jones looks spectacular. I don't know what world we're in,
but good for the New York Giants right now. I
do appreciate. I know Salah and Dabe all have a
really great relationship. They talk a lot. And look, there's
no way Brian Dabele's not looking at the situation going
this could have been me this week, you know, if
they lose to Seattle, and look, I don't think marav
(27:31):
is gonna move as fast as we see would he
move on on a firing. But I don't think anyone
in New York and the Giants organizations feels comfortable, Like
no one's sitting there going we're coming back next year,
not yet, but obviously getting a win, you know, being
the winners of New York for right now, it's got
to feel good.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Do you think there'll be another opening this season or
another firing.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Across the NFL?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, during the season, Oh yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah there will be because Dan, you know
how this works. Once a team sees one go down,
it's like whoa ball, It's open up the floodgates, like
someone's like, let you know, it's like kind of like
it also, I'll plants the sea two of Oh yeah,
I can fire people during the year. Uh So, I
think we're just getting started. It's just early, which is
(28:21):
why you know it's it is It is hard to
have that conversation of, oh, what are they thinking for next? Already?
Because this is early I haven't covered a firing of
the head coach this early season in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Mother of the Year Diana Racini, a Athletics senior NFL insider,
and the great podcast The Athletic Scoop City with our
good buddy Chase Daniel. Thank you, good to talk to
you again, Diana Dan.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
If I'm Mom of the Year, then the Jets are
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Champons, Okay, thank you, Diana Russini, The Athletic and the
Podcast with Chase Daniel Scoop City.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, I don't think this is attractive job.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And it's because I'm gonna have to deal with Aaron
Rodgers again in the offseason. Is he gonna play, how
involved he gonna be? What changes have to be made?
Is Nathaniel Hackett have to stay in that position like
they don't want it? And I think he turns forty
one in December. I think he's forty one this year.
(29:22):
I know age is just a number, but I'm watching
somebody who is looking like they're forty one.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Brady never looked like he was forty forty two. Forty five.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I mean, you're just looking at him and you just
don't it's he had ballet type feet. He was so
good and he can't be that way. I mean, just
put the age on his body. Then you have the
Achilles injury and there's no spark. There's no sparkle with
this offense. They need Devonte Adams and I don't even
(29:55):
know if that's the answer, but that's that's the only
possible answer are out there other than maybe we change
our playbook, maybe we're not predictable, maybe we're able to
run the ball a little bit. But what you're seeing
right now, they are very, very generic when it comes
(30:15):
to offense. Mitch in South Carolina, Hi, Mitch, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Hey, what's up? What's going on? Man?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:28):
About that? I was just calling the worrying about the
Aaron Rodgers thing. I guess I was just wondering if
since they got rid of Fallow, is New York trying
to shift to a more offensive mindset, to where Diana
said they want Aaron to take over the room a
little more and want him say so. So I'm guessing
(30:50):
with both of this firing and with Diana saying what
she just did.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And I think it's it's Aaron's room, thank you, Mitch.
It's already his room. It's not like something changes because
you fired Robert Sama. You still have your offensive coordinator
there now. If you fire your offensive coordinator now, Aaron
can take credit if the offense gets better.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Mike and Florida. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Hey man, I'm just six seven to seventy five currently
on High seventy five North's Headache out of Florida into Georgia.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, good luck with that evacuation there, Mike.
Speaker 10 (31:36):
Yeah, we got about one hundred and eighty miles a go.
I'm gonna have you guys on the radio the whole
time and get us through the shot.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
What's any how many people are you saying? I mean,
is this seventy five back? I mean Cardono.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
No, we waited until this morning to leave, so everybody
is probably already evacuated. But it's raining pretty good. We
got a three car caravan, my daughters behind me and
my wife's behind her, and we got our casts with
us and we're hit.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
It out all right.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well, we hope to entertain you. Do you want to
hear more of Fritzie or less of Fritzy to help
you with you know, the evacuated. Okay, then America is spoken.
Mike cast leaving Florida, smile on my face. Do you
have anything special for America today? You're the Minister of humor.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
We love Mike.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
We hate everyone else, but we love Mike.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Mike knows what's good.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Mike knows what's We could appreciate Mike.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
And he's going to be in his vehicle and he's
going to listen to our show and it's going to
be a lovely thing and we love him.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Oh oh, you're doing your Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
My voice, doing lines that he would say.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh okay, but not sounding not actually soundings.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
We've established that my bad impersonation of Doal Trump.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
But we can we could reinforce that.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Okay, yes, yes, you know, since we're doing it. I
don't want to take Fritzy's thunder. But did you ever
hear my Barack Obama imitation? I'm Barack Obama and I'm
president of the right state. Wow, I'm from Chicago and
I like the Cubs and the Sox.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Man, I thought you stuck slow when you finished fast.
If you see the facial things I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's really yeah, kind of that's Todd's thing. I'm sorry,
like his his Donald Trump impersonation.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It really hinges on his hands. That's it. Nothing else.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
And the radio audience loves that.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, the radio.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Audience is like, wow, I can only imagine what the
hand say is. Yeah, all right, how about terrible.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
It's terrible that I do the hand things in the
radio audience can't appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
To take a break, here we are and yeah, our
play of the day is up next.
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Speaker 4 (34:04):
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Speaker 3 (34:25):
You know, it wasn't one.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Of those Hey is it going to stay fair? And
I'm going to stand here. It was, Oh that's gone.
I'm going to admire this once again, their presentation is
going to be polarizing if they get to the national stage,
if they get to the World Series where more people
are going to watch. Dodger fans already know about this. Nationally.
(34:47):
West teams and their fans, they already know these are
the Padres.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Deal with them. If not, they're going to blow by you.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah, Pauline, So you're thinking maybe the older old school,
which has redundant fanbase with baseball, will be like not
so big in the Padres. But yeah, then younger people.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think the younger people probably appreciate their style.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Their swag.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Wouldn't that be great for baseball?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Their uniforms. Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
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Drake May situation was surprising because I thought you know what,
you're going to have him start. Granted, I think it's
a home game against the Texans, but the Texans are
a good team with a good pass rush. And I thought,
could you wait until do they have a bye week
after this game? And then I thought, maybe you bring
him in. I mean, you're not winning anything, and I
(36:03):
don't know if there's an ideal game situation.
Speaker 10 (36:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I do want a home game, a one o'clock game. Well,
you're not gonna play four o'clock or Sunday night because
you're the Patriots, but a one o'clock game, kind of
a nondescript opponent. Bye week next week or this week Texans,
then bye week, Paul.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Yeah, this week against the Texans, who are top three
in the league in quarterback pressures. Next week they had
the Jaguars. Okay, you don't wait, and then then you
got Jets, Titans, Bears.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh so they don't have a bye week. I not
for a while. For a while, I don't see it.
All right, Well, then throw him in. Let's see what
he can do.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I guess I would probably now was Jacksonville Patriots.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Jacksonville is in London. I think.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
If it goes bad, no one's watching.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
At least you get the nine to thirty am sort
of slut. I don't understand why you would trot out
a new are back in front of a home crowd
to get destroyed, booed at home in your very first
game as you trot off the field. I don't know
why you would do that.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
But what happens when they pull off the upset?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Hey, we found our Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
That comparison is going to go well for you. I'm
calling it. We found our Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
No, we found our Brady, and it could be Brady Quinn,
Kyle Brady, Kyle Brady.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
The Bills at the Jets on Monday night? God, is
this awesome?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It could be deliciously devastating, but it could be awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
The Bills are favored by two against the Jets on
Monday night. God, it's good. That's good? All right?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
A couple more phone calls in here. Jamis in Utah, Hi, jameis.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
Hey, Damn six one two fifteen, first time, long time
since I was sixteen, about eight years ago. I'm just
wanted to comments on the Aaron Rodgers situation. Sure, I
feel like Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson in Denver, DeShawn Watson,
(38:18):
even Brett Favre with the Jets. It seems a lot
like the super trend, the super team trend in the NBA,
where it gets the fans fired up. It seems to
everyone thinks he's going to lead the wins, but it
kind of mortgages the franchise and unless you have Lebron
or Tom Brady, it never really works well.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
The Jets, they were swinging for the fences, and I
understand Rogers was going to be available, but you know,
it's when you bring in somebody and then he wants
to bring in his guy, and like, you're, no other
quarterback has this autonomy. Brady didn't have it, Patrick Mahomes
(38:59):
doesn't have it like that. There has to be a
pecking order here, and it never felt like it felt
like Aaron Rodgers was running the organization was more important
than the head coach. And you can't have that because
you still have a locker room. Those players want to know,
all right, who's accountable here? Is that guy who's our
(39:21):
quarterback going to be accountable? Is he with us? Was
he here in the off season? I mean, just apply
logic to this of how would you feel somebody comes
in You've been there for a few years, all of
a sudden, Hey, this how we're going to do it. Hey,
I'm not going to be there. I'm in Egypt. Hey
I blew out my achilles. I'm not playing in the preseason. Hey,
(39:43):
we got problems with our offense, you know, our timing,
our cadence. I mean, the defense has lived up to
its end of the bargain. And if you're a member
of the defensive team and this happens in locker rooms,
you look at the offense and you're like, you guys
are costing us. Just letting you know. That's how it works.
(40:07):
It happened with the Ravens when they won a Super Bowl.
They basically said to Trent dilferd get us ten points
and will win. And that's what happened. The defense with
the Jets is that's a top five defense. The offense
was supposed to be a top ten offense. And if
they were, we would be talking about the Jets differently,
(40:29):
and Robert Salad would still be there and Aaron Rodgers
would be going, hey, I told you I'm coming back
another year. Now you've got a game on Monday night
at home underdogs against the Buffalo Bills. Legendary New York
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.