November 29, 2024 • 39 mins
Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer in for Dan and the guys as they try and figure out what happened with the Bears in the final seconds of their game on Thanksgiving against the Lions. Doug shares his experience at the Packers game Thursday night as he and Dan discuss the Dolphins' struggles. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug and the crew through round two of "Price is Right".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
The Thanksgiving hangover is absolutely real on this Black Friday,
still talking about what happened between the Bears and Lions
and Doug. This is the great thing about what happened
yesterday are these Thanksgiving Day games on TV, on Fox,
on CBS are the highest ranging games throughout the regular season,
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year after year after year. So on full display was
the incompetency of the Chicago Bears in a game that
is probably going to be first or second of the
highest rate of games that we'll see in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yep, pretty much, I've never seen anything like that. And
maybe and Bears fans are sitting there going like, welcome
to my world. But I've never seen anything like that. Like,
you had a time out and you could have dirted
the ball. There's a million things you could have done,
and you barely get a playoff and don't even get
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an opportunity to second play like it was so indescribably
awful to watch.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I had sympathy for Bears fans.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know where I compared it to like immediately in
the aftermath, because because he said, you haven't seen anything
like that, it reminded me of the Sopranos ending when
people are like, wit, that's it, it's just over, it's done.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And because it was so sudden, you felt that the
Bears had all this time, a little bit like I
think super Bowl fifty six at the end where you
thought the Bengals were driving, they get to midfield and
they have what a second and one and then they
get a couple of stops and then Aaron Donald Reek's
havoc and oh that's the game. That's over. The Rams
have won the Super Bowl. That's what yesterday out.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I I agree
with you, and it it felt like we're missing something.
But these I felt like all of America is streaming
at the TV.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, just well yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Here here's the setup.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
So I took my team to my country club, oh
not a country club for Thanksgiving dinner, and we have one.
Ryan Wade is a six year senior he's from Michigan's
from an arbor, Michigan, and so he's got he's always
rocking his Lions jersey. Matter of fact, when the Lions
came in and beat the Packers, it's great trash talk
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and he he you know, they all owned it with
him in the locker room. But we're watching as kind
of dinner is sort of wrapping up, and collectively everyone
is first that the the the ups and downs of
watching Caleb Williams play are are really I mean, I again,
it's it's like, well, he's just a rookie, but there
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are some pleasure, like God, he's awful. Then you're like, well,
you know they're not bad. Then all of a sudden,
they start kind of moving the football, they score a touchdown,
they're down three points. The Lions were kind of asleep
of the wheel. The lines were almost it was almost
as if, hey, why don't you guys come and beat
us because we're not really that into this thing. And
then you drive down the field and it's a pretty
obvious situation to call a timeout, clock, a ball, whatever,
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And I just, again, I could be wrong because I
was simply sitting in the bar area with thirty or
so other guys. But everyone I know is screaming at
the TV, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Call it timeout, Dirk the football?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
What are you it's And there's only one Lions fan
and no one is a Bears fan just watching that
debucle And then the comments afterward from me reflu She's like.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
What.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
His explanation? It's tough to understand.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Then we're there at second and twenty, you know, take
the sack right there, you know, So we're at thirty
six seconds right there, And our hope was because it
was third going into fourth, that we would we wrecked
that play at eighteen seconds, throw it in, bounce, get
into field goal range, and then call the time out.
And that's where it was. And that was our decision
making process on that. Again, we were outside the field
goal range, you know, so we needed to get a
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few more yards in there as close as we can get,
and then we're gonna call time out. And that's why
we held that last time out at the end of
the game.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I like what we did there.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Again, once it's under seven, you know you're gonna you're
gonna call you know, time out there or actually under twelve,
and then really you don't have an option, you know,
because it's third to fourth. You got to throw it
into the end zone. Then, So to me, it's uh,
I think we handled it the right way, but I
do believe that, uh, just we wreck the play, get
it in bounce and call time out, and that's why
we held it and didn't work out the way we
wanted it too.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I mean, firstly, is this is an obvious one, right.
Everyone I know was screaming, you can't take a sack there,
So that is on Caleb Williams. I can't can't take us,
can't take us, can't die. You can't take a sack there. Right,
And then and what he was saying is they obviously
have their rules under twelve, call a timeout. He didn't
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do it, you know under seven, and you gotta throw it,
you know, throw it for the end zone. I understand
all of that, but just the well, what about that
time gap between when when the last play ended and
when you got to under twelve under seven?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Here's what's There's so many layers to this. It's amazing
because Doug even on this drive a couple of plays earlier,
they actually had two timeouts, but they took one in
a dead ball situation because the play clock was running down,
so they threw an incomplete pass and they had a
second down and ten, and they ended up calling a
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timeout because eber Flus didn't think that Caleb Williams was
going to get the snap off. Williams actually, I think
was planning on getting the snap off and knew the
play clock was running down and was going to just
take advantage of the pause on the double zero where
you can still snap it. And he seemed frustrated that
he was unable to get the playoff and that the
Bears called timeout, So they wasted one of their timeouts
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just on a dead ball scenario inside the thirty yard line.
They had forty six seconds left, they had two timeouts.
They're at the Lions twenty five yard line. At that point,
you're thinking, to heck, with the field goal, we can
win this thing. Yes, let's put it into the end zone.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yes. Not.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
How are we going to end up out of field
goal range and have time run out on us? Yes,
the furthest thing from anyone's mind.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And look, Ebra Fluis is not an offensive guy, but
it's pretty obvious if you listen to.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
What he's saying.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
They do have rules and a process, and you know,
it's couldn't be more obvious that those two are not
on the same page. I would say that Caleb Williams
strikes me, and this is a little bit of inside
knowledge of his time at SC as a guy who's
really smart. But this is the issue with really smart
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young players. They think they know everything, right. I means
most of us when we're in our early twenties, especially
when people tell us we're smart, we think we know everything.
And you know, now it's on full display and end
of the day, that looks like a poorly coach football team.
There's just no other way you can say it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think, from top to bottom. One of the biggest
problems that I had was they don't have a kicker
on their team that can kick a fifty eight yard
field goal indoors. Eberflu says that they needed more yards
because of Caleb Williams taking that sack to kick a
field goal. Then the longest field goal in NFL history
is what sixty six yards from Justin Tucker kicked where
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Ford Field, home of the Detroit Lions and the Bears,
where I think collateral damage plays in. I think what
happened the last couple of weeks ago against the Packers
ends up playing into their mind and settling for that
field goal at that time. But man, and it was
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the only thing to think about it was it was
third down long.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yes, think about this year, Bears fan, Okay, should have
won the Packers game, probably should have won the Vikings game.
Had the Commander's game won. Doesn't mean you would have
won last night or yesterday afternoon, but that thing at
least should have gone overtime. And you're sitting here and
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again like, what's the expression. There's a football expression. More
games are lost than one. I have a ton of
respect for what Dan Campbell and the Lions have done overall.
Yesterday they didn't win that game. The Bears lost that game.
There's just no other way. And the same thing with
the Commander's game. They didn't win that. The Canners didn't
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win that game.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
The Bears lost that game.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And and as a as a Charger fan, I mean
a Jay stew are like, I don't even have PTSD
for that because as poorly coached the problem with the Chargers,
especially in Brandon Staley, were guys were just wide open
right like it was the defensive guy and they just
had leave dudes wide open. But the one compy, the
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one comp is was will always be that the Chargers
just found ways to lose games they should rightfully win.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And that's where the Bears are.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
And then there's got to be the added part to it,
like then if we want to get the brass tacks,
could have gotten rid of Eberflus last year. Chose not
to Harbaugh, and again I don't know if he chooses
the Bears when he could have chosen his own quarterback.
But Harball leaves Michigan, he goes to the Chargers and
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they are immediately a playoff team. You stick with Eberflus
and this season has been a debacle. Here's here's Caleb
Williams after the game talking about some of the communication issues.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
I don't have a microphone to speak to coach or
anything like that, so there was there wasn't like any
huge communication that situation. You get a call with that time,
you gotta you know, you gotta try and get the
guys back. I get everybody lined up, so you go
run a play and you know, we got lined up,
got the play, and then you know, I made an
adjustment because I saw the clock running down, knowing that
if we complete a ball and you know, in bounds
or anything like that, we won't have time to kick
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a field goal or anything like that. So you know,
I made adjustment new Rome was either gonna be one
on one or he was gonna you know, beat the
safety and be one on one there, and you know,
tried to give him a shot. We got the shot
and miss.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Okay, so that didn't make sense because he had a
time out. Here's Caleb Williams was said he was surprised
that the timeout wasn't called.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
All the time out. We cannot surprise. I'm not gonna
say surprise or not. Just my job is to go
out there and make plays. My job is to get
everybody lined up.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Win games.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So didn't do that today.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
You know, I could have gave Rome a you know,
maybe a little bit more of a jump ball in
that situation instead of maybe trying to throw it over
his shoulder anything like that. But you know, with that situation,
that's not what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, So in other words, he adjusted as if they
didn't have a timeout when they did have a timeout. Again,
that's on Caleb Williams, and you can hear from the
confidence in his voice kind of what I'm talking about Dan,
which is like he's not an idiot. He's actually really bright,
but I think he thinks he knows everything. He's like, yeah,
you know that situation, you know, we didn't couldn't couldn't
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you know, couldn't get a clock for a field goal, Like, yeah,
you can. He goes down and call time out.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, And he also made it explain it almost felt
like it was a one on one situation. I think
he may may have mentioned, well, it wasn't. There were
actually two lines defenders. If Roumadunja catches that pass, he's
actually still in the field of play. Time probably runs
out anyway. Just a bad decision if you're looking at
the and you decide to throw it that far downfield.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I just I just I just I just sat there
and was Austin I tweeted this, Dan, and I'm not
saying this because you don't follow me whatever, like, but
this is how I felt. I just I turned and
I was with my coach, was like, what do we
just watch? And then what you do? This is like
when you know you're a coach is you start to scramble.
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You like to go have we have we gone over?
Have we gone over? All these situations? They're like, yeah,
like no, have we gone over? And then I it's
funny because you know the other thing happening this time
of year. In addition to all these standalone football games,
we got our first Black Friday games as well.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Today.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Doug Gottlib Dan Byron for Dan The Dan Net's Dan
Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio is this is a huge
feast week. College basketball is everywhere. So all my players
are watching games and sending me plays like coach, can
we do this?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Coach, can we do that? I want to do this?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And I had my point guard was like, hey, we're
fouling up three, fouling up three, aren't we? Like yeah,
we talked about this in the summer and early in
the fall. He's like under seven seconds, Yeah, Like we
need to go back over that.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I guess we do.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So that's when like you know you've swipped into full
coach mode. Is when you're watching a different sport and
then you turn to your coaches and you're like, hey,
we got to go over all this stuff. I just
we cannot look like that. Yeah, because I don't even
know what I just saw.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I was in your In for You on your normal
show on Fox Sports Radio yesterday and we had Tim
Patrick of the Lions on afterwards. Asked him about the scenario.
He had no idea what the Bears were doing. I
asked him if they have a plan with the Lions
on if it's him or Ben Johnson or Jared Goffer,
anybody who would call a time out. He goes, yeah,
we have a plan in that scenario on how we
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would handle it. Now, Dan Campbell hasn't always been the
greatest in time management at times, but the fact is,
at least the Lions said that they had a plan,
and to me what I felt I felt the Green
Bay game, so came in to question as the clock
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was ticking down and when eber Flu says, you know,
we got to a certain point, I almost feel like
at eighteen seconds he felt it was out of his hands,
but it never should be when you're the head coach,
because he felt like, if we call a time out here,
then we can't throw it inbounds and we're not close
enough and we're not going to be able to get
our kicking unit out in time. If the clock continues
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to run, and so then I think he kind of
froze and panicked when he probably should have then just
called the timeout at seven seconds left, so they at
least run a play or figure out what they're going
to do, and instead it just ended.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, it's it's interesting, and look, we have this discussion
as we go, but it's like I would say, the
number one thing that I'm learning on.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
The fly is the use of the timeouts.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
You know, we played Okahma State the first game as
one point game at the half, they made a run
and because in college basketball under sixteen you have a timeout.
Under twelve you have a timeout, I found myself kind
of thinking in like a right, do I call one?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Now? Do I not Nike again?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And you have three in the second half, you have
four ones that use it or lose it in the
first half, and you end up like questioning yourself, Okay,
when do I use it? So, if you've watched our games,
my use of timeouts has is starting to kind of
change involved. I'm you know, when you coach in in
FEBA basketball.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You get three, but.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Only two you can use under two minutes in the
second half, right, So that's it's like a different you
can't use all three, can't pocket all three? There When
you coach like AAU basketball, usually you get either one
or two timeouts a half and that's it.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
And obviously there's no media timeouts, so.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You're you're kind of trying to figure and manipulating and
you got to pocket at least one if you can.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
But do you pocket two? Like it's a it's an
interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
My point to Eberflus is I totally understand, like those
timeouts they can get away, you know, do I save one?
Do I use one? But it's not like this is
first year coaching, i'd being a head coach. It's not
like he hasn't been an end of game scenarios before.
And I just their their use and misuse of all
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of it. It just and again this is probably the
point you made about the kicker is is the right one,
which is if you just look at this uh in
a in a vacuum and it's a one off and
it's a really bad look and it's one game against
the Detroit lines, You're like, you know what, they just
got screwed up. Maybe in maybe in the super not
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the in where the Lion's played Ford Field. Maybe the
clocks are hard to find, maybe they just made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Okay, but then when you factor in they lost an overtime.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Last week, they lost the Packers on a on a
block field goal, the Commanders sings the debacle. Overall, it
just does not look like a well run unit. You
also combined the fact that GM doesn't have a good
enough kicker indoors.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
To kick fifty eight yards, which though.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
It seems long in our brains in twenty twenty four,
these dudes can make it from sixty plus, especially indoors.
The whole thing is just a complete mess, complete mess.
He's Dan Bayer, I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the Dan
Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next,
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let's talk Let's talk Dolphins. I went to the game
yesterday and got some thoughts on my first kind of
cold weather snow globe lambeau Field game. But maybe more
interesting is stop me ver heard this before, but the
Dolphins can't win in cold weather.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
We'll discuss next on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Just for people who don't listen to the Doug Gottlieb Show,
which airs daily three to five Eastern twelfth two Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio app. Dan Byer is actually
a native of Wisconsin, and for people who haven't followed
my journey, I am was born in Wisconsin and now
I'm the head coach at Wisconsin Green Bay and this
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is my I guess this is the fourth Packer game
I've gotten to go to this season, which is pretty cool.
Right went to the I think warmest Packer game ever
was was the home opener against the Innapolis Colts. The
Texans game was incredibly exciting. I was sitting kind of
in the lower bowl, just up off the end zone
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where people do the Lambeau Leap.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And then I was there for the first half.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Of the Cardinals game, which was a relative blowout, not
really competitive. And last night after Thanksgiving dinner, got a
chance to go to my first night time and cold
weather and there was some flurries, so it felt a
little bit like a snow glow game. It's pretty enjoyable.
By you've obviously been to Packer games. Have you been
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to a game where it's snowing?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Gosh, Doug, I've been to one of the coldest games
on record when they played the Raiders in the early nineties,
the day the Lambell Leap was there. I was there
for the NFC Championship game where they beat the Panthers
in the mid nineties. Wow, yeah, was there the home
that was gosh, that was giving Kerry Collins. Yeah, yeah,
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even before that, so it was yeah. So I've been there.
I've been to a few few good ones, and it's
it's definitely definitely different from from December and January compared
to say that nice late summer hot day in September
or an early fall.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's so interesting, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And what I found to be fascinating is when you
when you kind of zoom out and you look at
the whole stadium. Right, obviously they have a there's a
ton of people in pack you throw your Packers jersey
over your coveralls or over whatever you're wearing. But there's
also in just about every section there were two or
three that were straight up in bright orange hunting gear,
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right just straight up just like yes it is, you know,
straight up just shot a buck and now I'm gonna
watch the Packers play.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Then.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I would say there's about three times that many
in every section wearing full camo, and but then you
cover the camo with a packer's jersey or you know
some sort of packers packers, packers jackodever.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And it was cold. Now full disclosure.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Of my seats were the club seats, so you can
sit outside, and I sat outside most of the game
and then go inside and get a hot chocol or get.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
A beer and watch the game. And so it's like.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The Lower Bowl. When you're in the Lower Bowl, like
that's it. You're hardcore, You're squeezed in to everybody else.
Everyone's into the game.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
But it is cold.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
It's not as bad when you're up in the club
section because you know when you want to tap out,
you can just go tap out and warm up for
about ten or so seconds.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I was.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I did sweats and then ski pants and then a
big parka, and I had the handwarmers in my pocket
just in case, and I was fine.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
It was not It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Bad at all, unless you were a Miami Dolphin. Unless
you were a Miami Dolphin. Here's Mike McDaniel, head coach
of the Miami Dolphins, talking about the narrative that this
team can't play in cold weather.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
That's the thing with narratives, there's one way to change them,
and so that Yeah, my expectation would be, you know
those who I mean, the naysayers, will you know, you
prove them right, they'll be louder.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So that's part of the territory.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
You have to you carry that until you until you
do something about it. And unfortunately we didn't tonight.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean, you know, wh when was it Malik
Washington who fumbled the the the opening punt many You
can't it just.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Looked it.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You don't know that that's why they're playing the way
they're playing, but they looked they looked incredibly uncomfortable, incredibly uncomfortable.
I'll tell you my biggest takeaway in watching the game
is Tua is a statue like he can't avoid the
rush at all. You know, it's like like Brady couldn't move,
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and you know it was you had to move him
off his spot. But Brady did have at least the ability,
maybe until super late in his career, where he could
just move, just sow to the side and just avoid
things like Tuk has to get rid of it quick
otherwise he can't move, just can't move. And I told
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you in our pre show meeting. You know, it was
what was a guy was about two years ago where
it was that showdown. You know, Manuel Acho had talked
about Tua being better than Justin Herbert and I went
to the game at so Far and what was fascinating
to me about that game was if you went to
the game and you thought the two quarterbacks were anywhere
near the same stratosphere, you needed to have an eye
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examination when you're done. It's not just because Herbert's like
four inches taller. The velocity of his throws is like
two x that of Tua. They build a layer throws
to build a move in the pocket. Like everything is
completely better. One guy looked like a college quarterback. The
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other guy looked like a pro quarterback. I thought the
same last night, and I know Tua's numbers were decent,
but the difference and it was probably Jordan Love's best
overall performance because he didn't throw a pick, and it
wasn't this They didn't throw a pick. He didn't throw
even one that was close to being intercepted, whereas in
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I think he'd thrown a pick in every game previous
this year, and there was usually two or three that
were kind of up for grabs, like Jordan Love played
really well, but more than anything, just just looked he
moved better. He's a little bigger, arms, much stronger. I
just my takeaway, Dan was god to it cannot I mean,
one of the reasons he gets hit so much is
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he can't move.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's this is and I think he said something interesting
about tua numbers because they do look good and honestly,
when you consider what the Dolphins had to put out
when he was out with his concussion and the problems
that they had at the position, and Tua obviously is
an upgrade, but is he just a compiler? This is
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It's almost it feels like as well that the Dolphins
are at a crossroads, not with tu of because they
paid him like he's going to be their guy, But
is this what life is like when you figure out
that Tyreek Hill isn't going to be Tyreek Hill anymore?
And there's something going on with how defenses are stopping
Tyreek Hill. But also if you're the Dolphins when you
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gave two of that deal, you couldn't think that Tyreek
Hill was going to be the same wide receiver for
as many years as Tua was getting his contract, just
Tua was going to have to take control and be
that guy. And I think to your point of what
you're saying is, not only is he probably not going
to be that guy, the concerns that we all have
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or that something bad could happen to him again, likely
could happen to him again because he just can't move.
It's scary, but that's gonna be the world the Dolphins live.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
In, profet, What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Just a real quick stat I just saw here. The
Dolphins are three and thirteen straight up as a road
underdog since twenty twenty two. Yeah, this is Doug. You've
said it a ton on your show a couple of
years ago, and they made that push and not to
do is Jason Stewart loves schedule radio, but they beat
(26:02):
nobody's And I'm someone who would give credit to people
and say, well, at least you're winning the games that
you're supposed to. But this kind of seems to be
who the Dolphins are. The three game winning streak came
against the Rams, Raiders and Patriots.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, there was a lot to that game last night.
I mean, one, it just it was interesting that the Packers.
Look that that was the first time, you know, start
to finish outside of maybe the first drive, it really
felt like the Packers were really, really sharp, really sharp.
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They looked like they had gotten to a different level.
And you know, obviously we know the Dolphins defense is
not their strength. But we're sitting around there talking and
I was one of my players was with me. He's
from Israel, and so I was explaining the dynamic of
the Dolphins and that they struggle in cold weather. And
you know, you go back to what was it last year,
(27:02):
the year before when they got off to the hot start,
and but all those games were at home and teams
like the Bills wore down late. And anybody's been to
Dolphin Stadium in the early in the early part of
the season, os that visitors sideline you're like ants underneath
the uh mike, Uh what's it called magnifying glass. You know,
(27:26):
you're just you're melting away. And so they benefit from
the heat, but uh, they just one look uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Two.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I thought the Packers did a great job of taking
away Tyreek Hill, like his touchdown reception was on a
deflection late in the game. And I would also say,
like in Tyreek Hill's defense, like mcdaye's gotta do a
better job getting in the football. The one thing they
did in Kansas City was, you know, they'd run those
end a rounds, those little pop passes, they'd find ways
(27:56):
to get him the ball. He's literally the most dynamic
player maybe in the sport. You know, you have to
put two and three guys there on him, and he's
and he was kind of a non factor. So yeah,
I not a big buyer into the into the Dolphins.
And also obviously the further further down you go down
(28:17):
the line, even if you make the playoffs, you're playing
on the road and that's just not a team that's
built for it. And again, in the AFC, unlike the NFC,
where at least Detroit you're playing in a dome, like
you're playing in Buffalo, you're playing in Kansas City pretty
much guaranteed on the road, and may or or you're
playing in Baltimore or Pittsburgh. So uh yeah, that's that
(28:41):
is that's let's see, what's the expression don't buy green bananas.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Ye don't buy green bananas.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I I again, and I just go back to the
to the point of I think we're starting to see
what the new Dolphins are going to look like. And
it wasn't just the cold last night. That that's a
great narrative, but let's be real. The Packers are also
just a better team. Yes, yeah, so so it's a
it's a tough game to go to win. But if
you're the Dolphins right now and you're seeing the John
(29:08):
Us Smith Show because defenses are taking away Tyreek Hill,
which they have for decent amount of the season when
two has been available, that, yeah, this is you've got
to figure out a different way in setting up screens
for Devan e Chan is not going to get it done.
And the numbers that two will put up last night
(29:28):
looked great.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yes, but if you end up a lot of them
more late too.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yes, absolutely, you're playing catch up. You're down, you're tweven
to three.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Three, the game was over, down twenty seven to three,
and you know they made it.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Got sort of cute. They're late.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You know, they scored touchdown to make it. But even
then the Packers came down. They're up nineteen, and you
know they score on the deflected pass and go for
two and don't get it. But I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You know again.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
And the other part to it is what we all
have come to the realization and the calculation is if
you're going to give that quarterback all that money, something's
got to give that what's gonna happen with the Packers
right now that the Packers run the benefit of they
just don't have a lot of highly paid guys because
they're all so young on that offensive side of the ball.
But eventually you know you're you're gonna time it out.
(30:18):
Something's got to give and your quarterback has to be
so good that he can overcome that.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That's what's happened with Josh Allen, That's what's happened obviously
with Pat Mahomes. We'll see if Lamar Jackson right, because
now he's making that huge money. So the defense is
not as good as it used to be. They put
it feels like most of their resources in the offensive
side of the football. Your quarterback has to be that
good to overcome the fact that his massive contract is
going to cause some sort of shortfall.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
And I don't believe too, is that good? I just
I just don't. I just do not.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
He's Dan Byrom Doug Gottliebin for Dan Dan Patrick and
the Dan Nets today. Coming up next, we'll find out
if the price is right.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
That's texting the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I was thinking about how, like today it's suddenly become
okay to wish somebody merry Christmas. And I don't speak
for all Jewish people. I can only speak for myself
as a Jewish person, like, hey, can you wish to
merry Christmas? It's like saying hey, hope you're great. It's
not It's not an indictment of your religion to I
don't think to say to a Jewish person like merry Christmas.
(31:34):
And I don't think it's against the rules of your
Jewish wish somebody in merry Christmas, regards of which there
is a price is right sort of effect to it right,
and everybody knows the price is right.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Thing is you can't go over and in any of
the bids that you make.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's true, right.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
So I just think if you think about it on
December first or November what is November twenty ninth, you
can wish somebody in merry Christmas like you're after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You can go merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You can't really go Happy Thanksgiving now because Thanksgiving's over,
and then December twenty sixth, you can't go Merry Christmas
like once we go over, Like, nope, we're on the
new year.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
We're Bill Belichick, We're on to Cincinnati. Have you ever
noticed that?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yes? Yes, In fact, I actually noticed driving in this
morning it was still dark out where we were here
in southern California, and I thought to myself, the people
who had their Christmas lights on like right now are
just like they are on schedule. They didn't do it
too early, they didn't do it too late, but they
are like as soon as it's appropriate, game on. And
(32:38):
that's going to be the case for the next month.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
The other thing that's interesting is living in the Midwest
is I made the mistake of asking somebody last night
at the ballgame.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Hey, who do you have to do your lights? They
looked at me like huh.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's like, well, you know when I was a Newport Beach, like,
you know, you just pay somebody to come to your lights.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Looks great, it's a couple hundred bucks done.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Like yeah, don't ever say that out loud in public
in the Midwest. Like, okay, noted, this is a DIY.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Doug is gonna be doing his lights.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, zero chance, zero chance, especially it's cold and windy today.
It's sub it's sub thirty.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Wait, so you pull in from a road game and
you see your entire neighborhood lit up, and then you're
the only one that isn't You're gonna have fomo and
you're gonna be out there the next day.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It's fairpoint. It's fair point, good point.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
There may be a couple of players, a couple of
walk on trying to earn scholarships, So it'll be up there,
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(33:49):
the Dan Patrick Show. Let's uh, let's play a little
prices right show.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, let's do it. Doug, I would tell you to
come on down, But everybody's already down you, Doug gott Leave,
Jason Stewart, Chris Purfett, gonna be a contestants role sort
of game today. We're not gonna play Cliffhanger. There is
no point go. Basically on this Black Friday, what I
am going to do is, I'm going to give you
items that I have found on eBay, sports related items
(34:15):
that I have found on eBay.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I love the prices, right jingle.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
It's great, It's magnificent.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Sorry, I'm sorry, Goh, I just go.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm not telling you guys are going to have to
give me a bid on this specific item, and whoever
is closest without that going over wins. All right, Yeah,
we've got three items here in this first segment. Okay,
three items up forbid. The first Matt Eberflus autograph Chicago
(34:43):
Bears mini helmets on eBay. Right now, Doug Gottlieb, how
much are you paying for this Matt Eberflus autographed mini helmet.
By the way, tax is not included in this.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I'm gonna go forty nine dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Forty nine dollars Doug, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Let's see, how about forty nine, ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Forty nine ninety nine, Chris Purfetts, I'm gonna go with
about thirty six dollars equal to the amount of seconds
he left on the clock. Thirty six dollars. Let run
off the clock.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Now. Actually, that's a terrible bit, by the way, Profet.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I know that's it is a lot of people tell
on themselves during the price is right in this new
erat because they have no idea how to play these games.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yes, Seatt's saying that you do.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Perfet did it for comic relief, So I completely get that.
The actual retail price of a Matt Eberflu's autographed mini
helmet on eBay right now is one twenty four ninety nine.
Jason Stewarts, You and the Matt Eberflus autograph helmet. Congratulations.
I had a feeling where would this go on your mantle?
(35:51):
Because you have other memorabilia, don't you.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Yeah, Dan Buyer bought me a Chargers eighties charge, just
like Dan Fouts Chargers mini helmet. I'll put it right
on top of that.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Any many helmets, Doug that you liked and you'd like
for Christmas?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
No, all right, No, I just you're the Minnie helmet guy,
So like I this is this is much more up
your alley than than mine.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
All right, let's uh, let's I do think.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
There's a certain value there there in eber Flues because
he's going to be one of those like who is
that coach who was with the Bears? And I liked
him on Hard Knocks? And then they had that like
and you start naming all the Bears coaches?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Who was it Lovey Smith?
Speaker 7 (36:39):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Is that Lovey Smith?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Mark Trustman, Mark.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Trussman, Mark Trustman, Good pull of cfl FA Mark Trustman. Right, Yes, yeah,
little Matt Eberflus, I got his Minnie helmet is.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Alright? Next item up forbid, you guys were Raygun from
the summer Olympics.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, she shut it down, did she?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
She did? Which may make this item even more valuable
because who knows if we're going to get more of these.
Back to back Collectible's Trading Card Company has produced a
Rachel Gun aka ray Gun, one of one hundred and
fifty red hologram trading card, a trading card of the
(37:27):
Australian break dancing phenomenon. How much are you paying for this?
Jason Stewart? You are first up for bids. Oh my god,
trading card.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
I don't even have a good punch wine here, Ryan,
So I'm just gonna throw this out there. Eighteen ninety nine,
eighteen dollars ninety nine Chris purfett Man one of one
one hundred and fifty. There's only one hundred and fifty
other Like red holograms, these.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Are either really high or really low. I feel like
three bucks, three bucks, Chris Perfet, Doug Gottlieb, what was
what was?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
What was your u?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Eighteen ninety nine?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Okay, nineteen dollars, nineteen.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Dollars all right? The actual retail price of the Rachel
Gunn one of one hundred and fifty red Holo Hologram
trading card from back to back is six dollars. Chris Perfet,
You win it? Three dollars? Was his bed bid? Six
bucks for that?
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I may be alone in saying this. I would buy that.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Hand right now? If you go to eat a penny,
it's like a penny stock yeah, whatever, it's like six bucks.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Like I have spent more than that on a couple.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Of weird collectible and like weird collectible.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
And then you know, you never know, may run into
Reygun some some Hasbin's event.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
How about this one nineteen ninety eight La Times newspaper
highlighting the Wooden Classic, with Doug Gottlieb as one of
the players on the cover of this La Times.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
No way, I want that.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
As Chris Perfretz. This start the bidding on this La Times. Yeah, Bro,
I'm going to say, man I two and thirty two
hundred and thirty Doug one dollar Jason Stewart, I'm gonna
go with forty ninety nine ninety nine. The actual retail
price of this La Times newspaper featuring Doug on the
cover is eight dollars and thirty three cents. Doug, you're
(39:27):
taking it home with the one dollar bid if you Werengratulations.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Where can I actually get that?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Can you send me the eBay? Yeah, it's just on eBay.
Just search Doug Gottlieb. Actually, don't do it after the
show because there may be more Doug Gottlieb memorabilia up
for bids. Wait what Yeah, there may be more.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I know what I'll be doing during the break.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Hey, he's Dan Byrom Doug golly been for Dan and
Dan Dan and the Dan Nuts coming up which rivalry
game this weekend will have the most impact on the
college playoff standings.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
The Thanksgiving hangover is absolutely real on this Black Friday,
still talking about what happened between the Bears and Lions
and Doug. This is the great thing about what happened
yesterday are these Thanksgiving Day games on TV, on Fox,
on CBS are the highest ranging games throughout the regular season,
(00:40):
year after year after year. So on full display was
the incompetency of the Chicago Bears in a game that
is probably going to be first or second of the
highest rate of games that we'll see in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yep, pretty much, I've never seen anything like that. And
maybe and Bears fans are sitting there going like, welcome
to my world. But I've never seen anything like that. Like,
you had a time out and you could have dirted
the ball. There's a million things you could have done,
and you barely get a playoff and don't even get
(01:14):
an opportunity to second play like it was so indescribably
awful to watch.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I had sympathy for Bears fans.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know where I compared it to like immediately in
the aftermath, because because he said, you haven't seen anything
like that, it reminded me of the Sopranos ending when
people are like, wit, that's it, it's just over, it's done.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And because it was so sudden, you felt that the
Bears had all this time, a little bit like I
think super Bowl fifty six at the end where you
thought the Bengals were driving, they get to midfield and
they have what a second and one and then they
get a couple of stops and then Aaron Donald Reek's
havoc and oh that's the game. That's over. The Rams
have won the Super Bowl. That's what yesterday out.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I I agree
with you, and it it felt like we're missing something.
But these I felt like all of America is streaming
at the TV.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, just well yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Here here's the setup.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
So I took my team to my country club, oh
not a country club for Thanksgiving dinner, and we have one.
Ryan Wade is a six year senior he's from Michigan's
from an arbor, Michigan, and so he's got he's always
rocking his Lions jersey. Matter of fact, when the Lions
came in and beat the Packers, it's great trash talk
(02:37):
and he he you know, they all owned it with
him in the locker room. But we're watching as kind
of dinner is sort of wrapping up, and collectively everyone
is first that the the the ups and downs of
watching Caleb Williams play are are really I mean, I again,
it's it's like, well, he's just a rookie, but there
(02:57):
are some pleasure, like God, he's awful. Then you're like, well,
you know they're not bad. Then all of a sudden,
they start kind of moving the football, they score a touchdown,
they're down three points. The Lions were kind of asleep
of the wheel. The lines were almost it was almost
as if, hey, why don't you guys come and beat
us because we're not really that into this thing. And
then you drive down the field and it's a pretty
obvious situation to call a timeout, clock, a ball, whatever,
(03:23):
And I just, again, I could be wrong because I
was simply sitting in the bar area with thirty or
so other guys. But everyone I know is screaming at
the TV, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Call it timeout, Dirk the football?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
What are you it's And there's only one Lions fan
and no one is a Bears fan just watching that
debucle And then the comments afterward from me reflu She's like.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
What.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
His explanation? It's tough to understand.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Then we're there at second and twenty, you know, take
the sack right there, you know, So we're at thirty
six seconds right there, And our hope was because it
was third going into fourth, that we would we wrecked
that play at eighteen seconds, throw it in, bounce, get
into field goal range, and then call the time out.
And that's where it was. And that was our decision
making process on that. Again, we were outside the field
goal range, you know, so we needed to get a
(04:22):
few more yards in there as close as we can get,
and then we're gonna call time out. And that's why
we held that last time out at the end of
the game.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I like what we did there.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Again, once it's under seven, you know you're gonna you're
gonna call you know, time out there or actually under twelve,
and then really you don't have an option, you know,
because it's third to fourth. You got to throw it
into the end zone. Then, So to me, it's uh,
I think we handled it the right way, but I
do believe that, uh, just we wreck the play, get
it in bounce and call time out, and that's why
we held it and didn't work out the way we
wanted it too.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I mean, firstly, is this is an obvious one, right.
Everyone I know was screaming, you can't take a sack there,
So that is on Caleb Williams. I can't can't take us,
can't take us, can't die. You can't take a sack there. Right,
And then and what he was saying is they obviously
have their rules under twelve, call a timeout. He didn't
(05:14):
do it, you know under seven, and you gotta throw it,
you know, throw it for the end zone. I understand
all of that, but just the well, what about that
time gap between when when the last play ended and
when you got to under twelve under seven?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Here's what's There's so many layers to this. It's amazing
because Doug even on this drive a couple of plays earlier,
they actually had two timeouts, but they took one in
a dead ball situation because the play clock was running down,
so they threw an incomplete pass and they had a
second down and ten, and they ended up calling a
(05:52):
timeout because eber Flus didn't think that Caleb Williams was
going to get the snap off. Williams actually, I think
was planning on getting the snap off and knew the
play clock was running down and was going to just
take advantage of the pause on the double zero where
you can still snap it. And he seemed frustrated that
he was unable to get the playoff and that the
Bears called timeout, So they wasted one of their timeouts
(06:16):
just on a dead ball scenario inside the thirty yard line.
They had forty six seconds left, they had two timeouts.
They're at the Lions twenty five yard line. At that point,
you're thinking, to heck, with the field goal, we can
win this thing. Yes, let's put it into the end zone.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yes. Not.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
How are we going to end up out of field
goal range and have time run out on us? Yes,
the furthest thing from anyone's mind.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And look, Ebra Fluis is not an offensive guy, but
it's pretty obvious if you listen to.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
What he's saying.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
They do have rules and a process, and you know,
it's couldn't be more obvious that those two are not
on the same page. I would say that Caleb Williams
strikes me, and this is a little bit of inside
knowledge of his time at SC as a guy who's
really smart. But this is the issue with really smart
(07:12):
young players. They think they know everything, right. I means
most of us when we're in our early twenties, especially
when people tell us we're smart, we think we know everything.
And you know, now it's on full display and end
of the day, that looks like a poorly coach football team.
There's just no other way you can say it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think, from top to bottom. One of the biggest
problems that I had was they don't have a kicker
on their team that can kick a fifty eight yard
field goal indoors. Eberflu says that they needed more yards
because of Caleb Williams taking that sack to kick a
field goal. Then the longest field goal in NFL history
is what sixty six yards from Justin Tucker kicked where
(07:55):
Ford Field, home of the Detroit Lions and the Bears,
where I think collateral damage plays in. I think what
happened the last couple of weeks ago against the Packers
ends up playing into their mind and settling for that
field goal at that time. But man, and it was
(08:17):
the only thing to think about it was it was
third down long.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yes, think about this year, Bears fan, Okay, should have
won the Packers game, probably should have won the Vikings game.
Had the Commander's game won. Doesn't mean you would have
won last night or yesterday afternoon, but that thing at
least should have gone overtime. And you're sitting here and
(08:42):
again like, what's the expression. There's a football expression. More
games are lost than one. I have a ton of
respect for what Dan Campbell and the Lions have done overall.
Yesterday they didn't win that game. The Bears lost that game.
There's just no other way. And the same thing with
the Commander's game. They didn't win that. The Canners didn't
(09:04):
win that game.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
The Bears lost that game.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And and as a as a Charger fan, I mean
a Jay stew are like, I don't even have PTSD
for that because as poorly coached the problem with the Chargers,
especially in Brandon Staley, were guys were just wide open
right like it was the defensive guy and they just
had leave dudes wide open. But the one compy, the
(09:30):
one comp is was will always be that the Chargers
just found ways to lose games they should rightfully win.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And that's where the Bears are.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
And then there's got to be the added part to it,
like then if we want to get the brass tacks,
could have gotten rid of Eberflus last year. Chose not
to Harbaugh, and again I don't know if he chooses
the Bears when he could have chosen his own quarterback.
But Harball leaves Michigan, he goes to the Chargers and
(10:01):
they are immediately a playoff team. You stick with Eberflus
and this season has been a debacle. Here's here's Caleb
Williams after the game talking about some of the communication issues.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
I don't have a microphone to speak to coach or
anything like that, so there was there wasn't like any
huge communication that situation. You get a call with that time,
you gotta you know, you gotta try and get the
guys back. I get everybody lined up, so you go
run a play and you know, we got lined up,
got the play, and then you know, I made an
adjustment because I saw the clock running down, knowing that
if we complete a ball and you know, in bounds
or anything like that, we won't have time to kick
(10:36):
a field goal or anything like that. So you know,
I made adjustment new Rome was either gonna be one
on one or he was gonna you know, beat the
safety and be one on one there, and you know,
tried to give him a shot. We got the shot
and miss.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Okay, so that didn't make sense because he had a
time out. Here's Caleb Williams was said he was surprised
that the timeout wasn't called.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
All the time out. We cannot surprise. I'm not gonna
say surprise or not. Just my job is to go
out there and make plays. My job is to get
everybody lined up.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Win games.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So didn't do that today.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
You know, I could have gave Rome a you know,
maybe a little bit more of a jump ball in
that situation instead of maybe trying to throw it over
his shoulder anything like that. But you know, with that situation,
that's not what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, So in other words, he adjusted as if they
didn't have a timeout when they did have a timeout. Again,
that's on Caleb Williams, and you can hear from the
confidence in his voice kind of what I'm talking about Dan,
which is like he's not an idiot. He's actually really bright,
but I think he thinks he knows everything. He's like, yeah,
you know that situation, you know, we didn't couldn't couldn't
(11:36):
you know, couldn't get a clock for a field goal, Like, yeah,
you can. He goes down and call time out.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, And he also made it explain it almost felt
like it was a one on one situation. I think
he may may have mentioned, well, it wasn't. There were
actually two lines defenders. If Roumadunja catches that pass, he's
actually still in the field of play. Time probably runs
out anyway. Just a bad decision if you're looking at
the and you decide to throw it that far downfield.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I just I just I just I just sat there
and was Austin I tweeted this, Dan, and I'm not
saying this because you don't follow me whatever, like, but
this is how I felt. I just I turned and
I was with my coach, was like, what do we
just watch? And then what you do? This is like
when you know you're a coach is you start to scramble.
(12:25):
You like to go have we have we gone over?
Have we gone over? All these situations? They're like, yeah,
like no, have we gone over? And then I it's
funny because you know the other thing happening this time
of year. In addition to all these standalone football games,
we got our first Black Friday games as well.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Today.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Doug Gottlib Dan Byron for Dan The Dan Net's Dan
Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio is this is a huge
feast week. College basketball is everywhere. So all my players
are watching games and sending me plays like coach, can
we do this?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Coach, can we do that? I want to do this?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And I had my point guard was like, hey, we're
fouling up three, fouling up three, aren't we? Like yeah,
we talked about this in the summer and early in
the fall. He's like under seven seconds, Yeah, Like we
need to go back over that.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I guess we do.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So that's when like you know you've swipped into full
coach mode. Is when you're watching a different sport and
then you turn to your coaches and you're like, hey,
we got to go over all this stuff. I just
we cannot look like that. Yeah, because I don't even
know what I just saw.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I was in your In for You on your normal
show on Fox Sports Radio yesterday and we had Tim
Patrick of the Lions on afterwards. Asked him about the scenario.
He had no idea what the Bears were doing. I
asked him if they have a plan with the Lions
on if it's him or Ben Johnson or Jared Goffer,
anybody who would call a time out. He goes, yeah,
we have a plan in that scenario on how we
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would handle it. Now, Dan Campbell hasn't always been the
greatest in time management at times, but the fact is,
at least the Lions said that they had a plan,
and to me what I felt I felt the Green
Bay game, so came in to question as the clock
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was ticking down and when eber Flu says, you know,
we got to a certain point, I almost feel like
at eighteen seconds he felt it was out of his hands,
but it never should be when you're the head coach,
because he felt like, if we call a time out here,
then we can't throw it inbounds and we're not close
enough and we're not going to be able to get
our kicking unit out in time. If the clock continues
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to run, and so then I think he kind of
froze and panicked when he probably should have then just
called the timeout at seven seconds left, so they at
least run a play or figure out what they're going
to do, and instead it just ended.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, it's it's interesting, and look, we have this discussion
as we go, but it's like I would say, the
number one thing that I'm learning on.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
The fly is the use of the timeouts.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
You know, we played Okahma State the first game as
one point game at the half, they made a run
and because in college basketball under sixteen you have a timeout.
Under twelve you have a timeout, I found myself kind
of thinking in like a right, do I call one?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Now? Do I not Nike again?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And you have three in the second half, you have
four ones that use it or lose it in the
first half, and you end up like questioning yourself, Okay,
when do I use it? So, if you've watched our games,
my use of timeouts has is starting to kind of
change involved. I'm you know, when you coach in in
FEBA basketball.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You get three, but.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Only two you can use under two minutes in the
second half, right, So that's it's like a different you
can't use all three, can't pocket all three? There When
you coach like AAU basketball, usually you get either one
or two timeouts a half and that's it.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
And obviously there's no media timeouts, so.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You're you're kind of trying to figure and manipulating and
you got to pocket at least one if you can.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
But do you pocket two? Like it's a it's an
interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
My point to Eberflus is I totally understand, like those
timeouts they can get away, you know, do I save one?
Do I use one? But it's not like this is
first year coaching, i'd being a head coach. It's not
like he hasn't been an end of game scenarios before.
And I just their their use and misuse of all
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of it. It just and again this is probably the
point you made about the kicker is is the right one,
which is if you just look at this uh in
a in a vacuum and it's a one off and
it's a really bad look and it's one game against
the Detroit lines, You're like, you know what, they just
got screwed up. Maybe in maybe in the super not
(16:44):
the in where the Lion's played Ford Field. Maybe the
clocks are hard to find, maybe they just made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Okay, but then when you factor in they lost an overtime.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Last week, they lost the Packers on a on a
block field goal, the Commanders sings the debacle. Overall, it
just does not look like a well run unit. You
also combined the fact that GM doesn't have a good
enough kicker indoors.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
To kick fifty eight yards, which though.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
It seems long in our brains in twenty twenty four,
these dudes can make it from sixty plus, especially indoors.
The whole thing is just a complete mess, complete mess.
He's Dan Bayer, I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is the Dan
Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next,
(17:29):
let's talk Let's talk Dolphins. I went to the game
yesterday and got some thoughts on my first kind of
cold weather snow globe lambeau Field game. But maybe more
interesting is stop me ver heard this before, but the
Dolphins can't win in cold weather.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
We'll discuss next on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Just for people who don't listen to the Doug Gottlieb Show,
which airs daily three to five Eastern twelfth two Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio iHeartRadio app. Dan Byer is actually
a native of Wisconsin, and for people who haven't followed
my journey, I am was born in Wisconsin and now
I'm the head coach at Wisconsin Green Bay and this
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is my I guess this is the fourth Packer game
I've gotten to go to this season, which is pretty cool.
Right went to the I think warmest Packer game ever
was was the home opener against the Innapolis Colts. The
Texans game was incredibly exciting. I was sitting kind of
in the lower bowl, just up off the end zone
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where people do the Lambeau Leap.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And then I was there for the first half.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Of the Cardinals game, which was a relative blowout, not
really competitive. And last night after Thanksgiving dinner, got a
chance to go to my first night time and cold
weather and there was some flurries, so it felt a
little bit like a snow glow game. It's pretty enjoyable.
By you've obviously been to Packer games. Have you been
(19:05):
to a game where it's snowing?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Gosh, Doug, I've been to one of the coldest games
on record when they played the Raiders in the early nineties,
the day the Lambell Leap was there. I was there
for the NFC Championship game where they beat the Panthers
in the mid nineties. Wow, yeah, was there the home
that was gosh, that was giving Kerry Collins. Yeah, yeah,
(19:32):
even before that, so it was yeah. So I've been there.
I've been to a few few good ones, and it's
it's definitely definitely different from from December and January compared
to say that nice late summer hot day in September
or an early fall.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's so interesting, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And what I found to be fascinating is when you
when you kind of zoom out and you look at
the whole stadium. Right, obviously they have a there's a
ton of people in pack you throw your Packers jersey
over your coveralls or over whatever you're wearing. But there's
also in just about every section there were two or
three that were straight up in bright orange hunting gear,
(20:17):
right just straight up just like yes it is, you know,
straight up just shot a buck and now I'm gonna
watch the Packers play.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Then.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I would say there's about three times that many
in every section wearing full camo, and but then you
cover the camo with a packer's jersey or you know
some sort of packers packers, packers jackodever.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And it was cold. Now full disclosure.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Of my seats were the club seats, so you can
sit outside, and I sat outside most of the game
and then go inside and get a hot chocol or get.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
A beer and watch the game. And so it's like.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The Lower Bowl. When you're in the Lower Bowl, like
that's it. You're hardcore, You're squeezed in to everybody else.
Everyone's into the game.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
But it is cold.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
It's not as bad when you're up in the club
section because you know when you want to tap out,
you can just go tap out and warm up for
about ten or so seconds.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I was.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I did sweats and then ski pants and then a
big parka, and I had the handwarmers in my pocket
just in case, and I was fine.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
It was not It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Bad at all, unless you were a Miami Dolphin. Unless
you were a Miami Dolphin. Here's Mike McDaniel, head coach
of the Miami Dolphins, talking about the narrative that this
team can't play in cold weather.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
That's the thing with narratives, there's one way to change them,
and so that Yeah, my expectation would be, you know
those who I mean, the naysayers, will you know, you
prove them right, they'll be louder.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So that's part of the territory.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
You have to you carry that until you until you
do something about it. And unfortunately we didn't tonight.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean, you know, wh when was it Malik
Washington who fumbled the the the opening punt many You
can't it just.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Looked it.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You don't know that that's why they're playing the way
they're playing, but they looked they looked incredibly uncomfortable, incredibly uncomfortable.
I'll tell you my biggest takeaway in watching the game
is Tua is a statue like he can't avoid the
rush at all. You know, it's like like Brady couldn't move,
(22:35):
and you know it was you had to move him
off his spot. But Brady did have at least the ability,
maybe until super late in his career, where he could
just move, just sow to the side and just avoid
things like Tuk has to get rid of it quick
otherwise he can't move, just can't move. And I told
(22:56):
you in our pre show meeting. You know, it was
what was a guy was about two years ago where
it was that showdown. You know, Manuel Acho had talked
about Tua being better than Justin Herbert and I went
to the game at so Far and what was fascinating
to me about that game was if you went to
the game and you thought the two quarterbacks were anywhere
near the same stratosphere, you needed to have an eye
(23:18):
examination when you're done. It's not just because Herbert's like
four inches taller. The velocity of his throws is like
two x that of Tua. They build a layer throws
to build a move in the pocket. Like everything is
completely better. One guy looked like a college quarterback. The
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other guy looked like a pro quarterback. I thought the
same last night, and I know Tua's numbers were decent,
but the difference and it was probably Jordan Love's best
overall performance because he didn't throw a pick, and it
wasn't this They didn't throw a pick. He didn't throw
even one that was close to being intercepted, whereas in
(24:00):
I think he'd thrown a pick in every game previous
this year, and there was usually two or three that
were kind of up for grabs, like Jordan Love played
really well, but more than anything, just just looked he
moved better. He's a little bigger, arms, much stronger. I
just my takeaway, Dan was god to it cannot I mean,
one of the reasons he gets hit so much is
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he can't move.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's this is and I think he said something interesting
about tua numbers because they do look good and honestly,
when you consider what the Dolphins had to put out
when he was out with his concussion and the problems
that they had at the position, and Tua obviously is
an upgrade, but is he just a compiler? This is
(24:44):
It's almost it feels like as well that the Dolphins
are at a crossroads, not with tu of because they
paid him like he's going to be their guy, But
is this what life is like when you figure out
that Tyreek Hill isn't going to be Tyreek Hill anymore?
And there's something going on with how defenses are stopping
Tyreek Hill. But also if you're the Dolphins when you
(25:06):
gave two of that deal, you couldn't think that Tyreek
Hill was going to be the same wide receiver for
as many years as Tua was getting his contract, just
Tua was going to have to take control and be
that guy. And I think to your point of what
you're saying is, not only is he probably not going
to be that guy, the concerns that we all have
(25:27):
or that something bad could happen to him again, likely
could happen to him again because he just can't move.
It's scary, but that's gonna be the world the Dolphins live.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
In, profet, What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Just a real quick stat I just saw here. The
Dolphins are three and thirteen straight up as a road
underdog since twenty twenty two. Yeah, this is Doug. You've
said it a ton on your show a couple of
years ago, and they made that push and not to
do is Jason Stewart loves schedule radio, but they beat
(26:02):
nobody's And I'm someone who would give credit to people
and say, well, at least you're winning the games that
you're supposed to. But this kind of seems to be
who the Dolphins are. The three game winning streak came
against the Rams, Raiders and Patriots.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, there was a lot to that game last night.
I mean, one, it just it was interesting that the Packers.
Look that that was the first time, you know, start
to finish outside of maybe the first drive, it really
felt like the Packers were really, really sharp, really sharp.
(26:40):
They looked like they had gotten to a different level.
And you know, obviously we know the Dolphins defense is
not their strength. But we're sitting around there talking and
I was one of my players was with me. He's
from Israel, and so I was explaining the dynamic of
the Dolphins and that they struggle in cold weather. And
you know, you go back to what was it last year,
(27:02):
the year before when they got off to the hot start,
and but all those games were at home and teams
like the Bills wore down late. And anybody's been to
Dolphin Stadium in the early in the early part of
the season, os that visitors sideline you're like ants underneath
the uh mike, Uh what's it called magnifying glass. You know,
(27:26):
you're just you're melting away. And so they benefit from
the heat, but uh, they just one look uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Two.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I thought the Packers did a great job of taking
away Tyreek Hill, like his touchdown reception was on a
deflection late in the game. And I would also say,
like in Tyreek Hill's defense, like mcdaye's gotta do a
better job getting in the football. The one thing they
did in Kansas City was, you know, they'd run those
end a rounds, those little pop passes, they'd find ways
(27:56):
to get him the ball. He's literally the most dynamic
player maybe in the sport. You know, you have to
put two and three guys there on him, and he's
and he was kind of a non factor. So yeah,
I not a big buyer into the into the Dolphins.
And also obviously the further further down you go down
(28:17):
the line, even if you make the playoffs, you're playing
on the road and that's just not a team that's
built for it. And again, in the AFC, unlike the NFC,
where at least Detroit you're playing in a dome, like
you're playing in Buffalo, you're playing in Kansas City pretty
much guaranteed on the road, and may or or you're
playing in Baltimore or Pittsburgh. So uh yeah, that's that
(28:41):
is that's let's see, what's the expression don't buy green bananas.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Ye don't buy green bananas.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I I again, and I just go back to the
to the point of I think we're starting to see
what the new Dolphins are going to look like. And
it wasn't just the cold last night. That that's a
great narrative, but let's be real. The Packers are also
just a better team. Yes, yeah, so so it's a
it's a tough game to go to win. But if
you're the Dolphins right now and you're seeing the John
(29:08):
Us Smith Show because defenses are taking away Tyreek Hill,
which they have for decent amount of the season when
two has been available, that, yeah, this is you've got
to figure out a different way in setting up screens
for Devan e Chan is not going to get it done.
And the numbers that two will put up last night
(29:28):
looked great.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yes, but if you end up a lot of them
more late too.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yes, absolutely, you're playing catch up. You're down, you're tweven
to three.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Three, the game was over, down twenty seven to three,
and you know they made it.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Got sort of cute. They're late.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You know, they scored touchdown to make it. But even
then the Packers came down. They're up nineteen, and you
know they score on the deflected pass and go for
two and don't get it. But I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You know again.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
And the other part to it is what we all
have come to the realization and the calculation is if
you're going to give that quarterback all that money, something's
got to give that what's gonna happen with the Packers
right now that the Packers run the benefit of they
just don't have a lot of highly paid guys because
they're all so young on that offensive side of the ball.
But eventually you know you're you're gonna time it out.
(30:18):
Something's got to give and your quarterback has to be
so good that he can overcome that.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That's what's happened with Josh Allen, That's what's happened obviously
with Pat Mahomes. We'll see if Lamar Jackson right, because
now he's making that huge money. So the defense is
not as good as it used to be. They put
it feels like most of their resources in the offensive
side of the football. Your quarterback has to be that
good to overcome the fact that his massive contract is
going to cause some sort of shortfall.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
And I don't believe too, is that good? I just
I just don't. I just do not.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
He's Dan Byrom Doug Gottliebin for Dan Dan Patrick and
the Dan Nets today. Coming up next, we'll find out
if the price is right.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
That's texting the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I was thinking about how, like today it's suddenly become
okay to wish somebody merry Christmas. And I don't speak
for all Jewish people. I can only speak for myself
as a Jewish person, like, hey, can you wish to
merry Christmas? It's like saying hey, hope you're great. It's
not It's not an indictment of your religion to I
don't think to say to a Jewish person like merry Christmas.
(31:34):
And I don't think it's against the rules of your
Jewish wish somebody in merry Christmas, regards of which there
is a price is right sort of effect to it right,
and everybody knows the price is right.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Thing is you can't go over and in any of
the bids that you make.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's true, right.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
So I just think if you think about it on
December first or November what is November twenty ninth, you
can wish somebody in merry Christmas like you're after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You can go merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You can't really go Happy Thanksgiving now because Thanksgiving's over,
and then December twenty sixth, you can't go Merry Christmas
like once we go over, Like, nope, we're on the
new year.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
We're Bill Belichick, We're on to Cincinnati. Have you ever
noticed that?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yes? Yes, In fact, I actually noticed driving in this
morning it was still dark out where we were here
in southern California, and I thought to myself, the people
who had their Christmas lights on like right now are
just like they are on schedule. They didn't do it
too early, they didn't do it too late, but they
are like as soon as it's appropriate, game on. And
(32:38):
that's going to be the case for the next month.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
The other thing that's interesting is living in the Midwest
is I made the mistake of asking somebody last night
at the ballgame.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Hey, who do you have to do your lights? They
looked at me like huh.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's like, well, you know when I was a Newport Beach, like,
you know, you just pay somebody to come to your lights.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Looks great, it's a couple hundred bucks done.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Like yeah, don't ever say that out loud in public
in the Midwest. Like, okay, noted, this is a DIY.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Doug is gonna be doing his lights.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, zero chance, zero chance, especially it's cold and windy today.
It's sub it's sub thirty.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Wait, so you pull in from a road game and
you see your entire neighborhood lit up, and then you're
the only one that isn't You're gonna have fomo and
you're gonna be out there the next day.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It's fairpoint. It's fair point, good point.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
There may be a couple of players, a couple of
walk on trying to earn scholarships, So it'll be up there,
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(33:49):
the Dan Patrick Show. Let's uh, let's play a little
prices right show.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, let's do it. Doug, I would tell you to
come on down, But everybody's already down you, Doug gott Leave,
Jason Stewart, Chris Purfett, gonna be a contestants role sort
of game today. We're not gonna play Cliffhanger. There is
no point go. Basically on this Black Friday, what I
am going to do is, I'm going to give you
items that I have found on eBay, sports related items
(34:15):
that I have found on eBay.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I love the prices, right jingle.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
It's great, It's magnificent.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Sorry, I'm sorry, Goh, I just go.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm not telling you guys are going to have to
give me a bid on this specific item, and whoever
is closest without that going over wins. All right, Yeah,
we've got three items here in this first segment. Okay,
three items up forbid. The first Matt Eberflus autograph Chicago
(34:43):
Bears mini helmets on eBay. Right now, Doug Gottlieb, how
much are you paying for this Matt Eberflus autographed mini helmet.
By the way, tax is not included in this.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I'm gonna go forty nine dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Forty nine dollars Doug, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Let's see, how about forty nine, ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Forty nine ninety nine, Chris Purfetts, I'm gonna go with
about thirty six dollars equal to the amount of seconds
he left on the clock. Thirty six dollars. Let run
off the clock.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Now. Actually, that's a terrible bit, by the way, Profet.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I know that's it is a lot of people tell
on themselves during the price is right in this new
erat because they have no idea how to play these games.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yes, Seatt's saying that you do.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Perfet did it for comic relief, So I completely get that.
The actual retail price of a Matt Eberflu's autographed mini
helmet on eBay right now is one twenty four ninety nine.
Jason Stewarts, You and the Matt Eberflus autograph helmet. Congratulations.
I had a feeling where would this go on your mantle?
(35:51):
Because you have other memorabilia, don't you.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Yeah, Dan Buyer bought me a Chargers eighties charge, just
like Dan Fouts Chargers mini helmet. I'll put it right
on top of that.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Any many helmets, Doug that you liked and you'd like
for Christmas?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
No, all right, No, I just you're the Minnie helmet guy,
So like I this is this is much more up
your alley than than mine.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
All right, let's uh, let's I do think.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
There's a certain value there there in eber Flues because
he's going to be one of those like who is
that coach who was with the Bears? And I liked
him on Hard Knocks? And then they had that like
and you start naming all the Bears coaches?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Who was it Lovey Smith?
Speaker 7 (36:39):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Is that Lovey Smith?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Mark Trustman, Mark.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Trussman, Mark Trustman, Good pull of cfl FA Mark Trustman. Right, Yes, yeah,
little Matt Eberflus, I got his Minnie helmet is.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Alright? Next item up forbid, you guys were Raygun from
the summer Olympics.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, she shut it down, did she?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
She did? Which may make this item even more valuable
because who knows if we're going to get more of these.
Back to back Collectible's Trading Card Company has produced a
Rachel Gun aka ray Gun, one of one hundred and
fifty red hologram trading card, a trading card of the
(37:27):
Australian break dancing phenomenon. How much are you paying for this?
Jason Stewart? You are first up for bids. Oh my god,
trading card.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
I don't even have a good punch wine here, Ryan,
So I'm just gonna throw this out there. Eighteen ninety nine,
eighteen dollars ninety nine Chris purfett Man one of one
one hundred and fifty. There's only one hundred and fifty
other Like red holograms, these.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Are either really high or really low. I feel like
three bucks, three bucks, Chris Perfet, Doug Gottlieb, what was
what was?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
What was your u?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Eighteen ninety nine?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Okay, nineteen dollars, nineteen.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Dollars all right? The actual retail price of the Rachel
Gunn one of one hundred and fifty red Holo Hologram
trading card from back to back is six dollars. Chris Perfet,
You win it? Three dollars? Was his bed bid? Six
bucks for that?
Speaker 4 (38:31):
I may be alone in saying this. I would buy that.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Hand right now? If you go to eat a penny,
it's like a penny stock yeah, whatever, it's like six bucks.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Like I have spent more than that on a couple.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Of weird collectible and like weird collectible.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
And then you know, you never know, may run into
Reygun some some Hasbin's event.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
How about this one nineteen ninety eight La Times newspaper
highlighting the Wooden Classic, with Doug Gottlieb as one of
the players on the cover of this La Times.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
No way, I want that.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
As Chris Perfretz. This start the bidding on this La Times. Yeah, Bro,
I'm going to say, man I two and thirty two
hundred and thirty Doug one dollar Jason Stewart, I'm gonna
go with forty ninety nine ninety nine. The actual retail
price of this La Times newspaper featuring Doug on the
cover is eight dollars and thirty three cents. Doug, you're
(39:27):
taking it home with the one dollar bid if you Werengratulations.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Where can I actually get that?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Can you send me the eBay? Yeah, it's just on eBay.
Just search Doug Gottlieb. Actually, don't do it after the
show because there may be more Doug Gottlieb memorabilia up
for bids. Wait what Yeah, there may be more.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I know what I'll be doing during the break.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Hey, he's Dan Byrom Doug golly been for Dan and
Dan Dan and the Dan Nuts coming up which rivalry
game this weekend will have the most impact on the
college playoff standings.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
We'll talk to college football next to The Dan Patrick Show.
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