September 21, 2023 • 44 mins
Dan addresses yesterday's rollercoaster ride courtesy of Chicago Bears QB Justin Fields. And former NFL HC Herm Edwards stops by to talk about how he would have handled a situation like the one in Chicago.
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stop by as well. But the big news is not
necessarily the game tonight. It's the mess that was yesterday
in Chicago. Justin Fields has a mess to clean up,
and this.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Is how it all started.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Now, keep in mind when you see a tweet, you
don't know if it's in context or can you put
it in context? Justin Fields, this was a tweet yesterday.
Justin Fields is doing a press conference and there was
a tweet that was sent out. Justin Fields acknowledged that
he has been playing too robotic, then bit the pin
(03:33):
of off the grenade and rolled it into the building
with his explanation for why he believes it's that way
he said coaching, and then there was the tweet that
followed that said, wow, a lot more of that in
a bit, Well, there is a lot more to the
answer that Justin Fields has, so let's put it in context.
(03:53):
Here's Justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I felt like, you know, I wasn't necessarily playing my game.
I felt like I was kind of robotic and not
playing like myself. My goal this week is just to
say effid and just go out there and play football
how I know how to play football. That includes thinking
less than just going out there and playing off for
instincts rather than just so much so to say info
in my head died in my head and literally just
going out there playing football, because that's when you know
(04:16):
I play my best is I'm just out there playing
free and being myself.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Okay, so yeah, it's on coaching, but it's on him.
And then there was more to it after that.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I don't think it's too many coaching voices, but I
just think when you're fed a lot of information at
a point in time and trying to think about that info,
like when you're playing, it doesn't let you play like yourself.
You're trying to, you know, process so much information to
where it's like, if I just simplified in my mind,
I would have did this, like I've saw a few
plays on Sunday to where I was playing like my
old self, Like we would have had a positive play,
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like there would have been, you know, a few more
third down conversions. So I think that's the biggest thing
for me is just you know, playing the game, how
I know how to play it, how I've been playing
in my whole life.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
So I got to get back to.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Doing I don't think he realized what he said. Now
he had comments to say, and then after practice he
basically welcomed the media over That doesn't happen. Athletes are like,
I don't want to answer any more questions, But.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Here you go. Here's justin fields later in the day.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
This is the one that got him in hot water.
This is the one before practice.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh okay, what do you say thinking less?
Speaker 8 (05:25):
What do you think was causing you to think so much?
Speaker 6 (05:27):
If he thinks much, could be coaching. They're doing their
job when they're giving me what's a look at and
stuff like that. But at the end of the day,
I can't be thinking about that. When the game comes,
I prepare myself throughout the week and then when the
game comes, it's it's time to play free at that point,
so you know, just thinking less and playing more.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Okay, But if you stop the tweet and you'd stop
at coaching, then all of a sudden, you've detonated the grenade.
He did go on to say, you know other things.
I think once you say what you really feel, and
then I think he caught himsel off in the moment
and he's like, you know what, I need to clean
that up a little bit. Then you go to practice.
(06:05):
Then after practice, that's when he probably checks his phone
social media, and all of a sudden you realize there's
something to this.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well what do you do?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What do you do if you're Matt Eberfluse, he's the
head coach of the Bears.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Did you have the same come the same conclusion after
the game when you watch that game and he needs
to get back to play the wheel?
Speaker 9 (06:27):
Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, and you know if
he's feeling that way, then you know then yes, you know.
I think that player needs to feel free, he needs
to have the flow of the game, he needs to
use his instincts. That's what you want from players, right
you know, you have you have any players like that, right,
if it's a receiver, linebacker, defensive line, those guys you
got to play free, right and you know the guys
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were brought here to play that way.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
We want to see them. We want to see those
in the game situations.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
Certainly, as a quarterback, you got to go through your progressions,
but there's also instincts that are involved in that, and
we want them to have that flow. We want them
to have that freedom to do those things.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I can't imagine what it must have been like for
the head coach to have been told what Justin Field said.
Pr person probably said, coach, come here. Justin kind of
called out the coaching staff and he's playing robotic what
And then you go to practice and you're probably steaming
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through practice. All of a sudden it's going viral. Now
at the end of practice, I think that's where you
call over the quarterback and say, you know what, you
got to clarify some things here. You know, I'm gonna
tamp this down. This isn't a big deal. Your defensive
coordinator just quit like you're zero and two. Your coach,
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you know, does he make me too robotic? There are
too many voices here. I want to be free. I
want to play. You got the Kansas City Chiefs coming up.
Oh no, you're twelve and a half or thirteen point
underdogs here. Then all of a sudden, they're like porters,
Come on back in. Let me try to make this
a little bit better, a little bit nicer. It feels
(08:05):
like Justin Field said what he felt, and that is
he's being robotic. He's not running the ball. They're trying
to make him a pouncer and he might not be
a pouncer. Here's what he said after practice.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I love you guys, but you know I get that
you guys's jobs are to get clicked. So it's like
when you take my quote out of context and when
you just say that, if you paint the picture on
the inside out, like y'all are trying.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
To split us up at till. I'm not blaming anything
on the coaches.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
I'm never gonna blame anything on the coaches, never gonna
blame anything on my teammates.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
I will take every whatever happens in the game, I
would take all the blame. I don't care to drop pass,
which it should have been a pass.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
I'll play it on me, but never when you hear
anything come out of my mouth to where I will
blame it.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
On somebody else in this organization. My teammates never hear that.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
So I just want to cry that out and just
know that, like, I need to play better if y'all
that's that's what I should have said in the first place.
But you know, I was trying to give you all
more details because because you know, I appreciate youallfer doing
what y'all do, and I try to give you all
the information y'all want for you guys job. So I'm
gonna do that and in the future, Like, but I
(09:15):
ask you guys just to put the.
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Whole quote out.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Don't cut it up into words and pieces to make
it seem like I'm saying something that I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, that part is fair, but don't tell me that
you're going to give the reporters a little bit more
because I you know, I respect what you guys do. Uh,
let me throw some people under the bus here while
I give you something else to write about.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
See, this is a classic case of half and then half.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yes see, my guy, less is more, Less is more,
My dude, It's it's way too much.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
All you need to say is my bad.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm frustrated, and I should be putting the blame on me,
not anybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's on me. I'm a competitor. I want to win.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'm embarrassed out there because I'm better than this, and
I still want to be a playoff team. I'm a
playoff type quarterback here. I just I got to start,
you know, getting a better game plan, processing that better,
and being able to go out on the field and
then deliver that.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I can't think of a SoundBite that I've heard recently
where someone is right and then wrong, and then right
and then wrong. And if it was like a scale,
it would be going up and down up, are you right?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And then you're wrong? That No, no, don't say that.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yes no, don't say that.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yes do say that It was a teeter todd.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Okay, that makes us No no, no, no, don't say that.
Oh no, yes, okay, now you got Oh no, don't yeah, Paul.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
You know what, someone's backing up a car. You're giving adresses?
Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yep, a right here,
just come to me.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
No, no, no, no, no, he was so close like his.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Point about the media taking the coaching word and leaving
it as a standalone. He's right, that set off the
fire yesterday, Nashley.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
But it's like when you're trying to back up a
truck with a boat and.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You always had to go the opposite, you know, it's like, wait,
do I go this?
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
No, no, no, I go to this? Oh this, that's
what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
He's got his pickup truck and there's a boat on
the back and he's trying to back it up.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
And the funny part of it, too is that he's right,
it was not put in the proper context. However, when
put in the proper context, he's blaming the coaches.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
He did, so the.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Cut, ultimately, the point was exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
He does blame coaches, and then he goes on to
talk about other things. But you start out by blaming
the coaches, you blame yourself. Then if you want to say,
you know what I got to get with the coaches,
I got to get the information quicker. I can't be robotic,
you know, I'm spontaneous. This is what I did the
first couple of years.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I know they want to make me a pocket passer.
You know, my goal is to be like Lamar Jackson,
but right now I'm still learning that process. He might
be Cam Newton. He might not be a good pass
a pocket passer. He might just That's where you just say,
go out and play and if you get hurt, you
get hurt. But you already decided that you traded away
(12:10):
the number one pick. You gave that up. You believed
in justin fields, and that's all management has to say.
And the coaching staff, Look, we believe in him. We
gave up the first round first pick overall, that's how
much we believe in him. He is our quarterback. We
will get this right. But they're not a good team.
(12:30):
The expectation level. I didn't understand it, still don't understand it.
Do I think or did I think he'd rush for
one thousand yards?
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Did I think that they were a six win team? Yes,
that's it. Nothing else to see here, Yes, Ton.
Speaker 10 (12:46):
How does someone from the media not to defend the
group and themselves saying, you know, we want to get clicks.
You said that they're making me robotic, that there's too
much information. The very first thing he said was that
it could be the coaching.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, the rest of the media doesn't have to try
to explain for the original tweet. The original tweet once again, I'll.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Give that to you. That says.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He acknowledged that he's been playing too robotic, but then
bit the pin off the grenade and rolled it into
the building with his explanation for why he believes it's
that way. And then in parentheses or quotations, it says coaching.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
That's on the Chicago Tribune reporters.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
That's in pin off the grenade is so funny.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
It's inflammatory.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, but he doesn't add anything more Now after coaching
in parentheses, he could have said Fields also acknowledged that
he's to blame or whatever it might be, but he
just put wow a lot more on that in a bit.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
You know, it's funny we're with Twitter these days or X.
You're not limited anymore. It's not like you're limited in
characters or what you could write. He could have written
the entire quote or could have written in a context
right off the bat, because this made everyone tune into
the process.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And yeah, now all of a sudden, I cared about
the Bears, and I normally don't care about the Bears.
I think I did an eighty five. That's the last
time I cared about the Bears. Yes see, I might be.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Like out on like an island on this one, But
I don't actually think what he said was all that
bad when he blamed coaching. I don't think the idea
that saying, like, you know, the coaches are filling my
head with too much stuff. He could have said it better.
He could have said, you know, I'm having a hard
time processing all of the infor no, actually you can't
say that. You can't say I'm having a hard time
process and all this. But he I don't think that
(14:34):
his main point of this is being made too complicated
and I'm getting too much information is all that bad.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You have to start by blaming yourself.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Then if you want to say, look, I'm robotic and
I keep you know, I'm trying to process the play.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
But nothing is more robotic than quarterbacks being like this
starts with me, starts with me. Well, that's like the
most robotic quarterbacks, I say, I know. That's that's when
he needed to be robotic, seat and stupid.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
That's when he needed to be robota. Sorry, being like, if.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
It's a drop pass, then blame it on me. That's
the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
That's I hate.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
That's this part about like quarterbacks in sports.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
It starts with me.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I love him that dude dropped the pass. I love
that he gave us this quote. But he could have
said what he needed to say in a different way.
Then this isn't a story. First of all, it's Chicago.
They are hungry for a winner, and you bypassed the
number one overall pick. You kept him and you're now
over and too. You lost to the Packers at home,
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you lost to Tampa Bay, and now you have Kansas City.
You know this is desperate, desperate times here and is
Justin Fields their future? I mean, we're going to find
out here real quick if they're all in on Justin Fields.
Everybody brings up well Mitchell Trubisky led him to to
playoff great and he hasn't played football since they got
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rid of him. They had a better tea goes back
to what I said about Patrick Mahomes. If you put
Patrick Mahomes on the Bears, he's a curiosity. They're not
a good team. He's on a great team in Kansas City,
and he's a great quarterback. As a result, he takes
advantage of all of those things.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Justin Fields needs.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
To have somebody that he tries to emulate, and I
say it's Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson has become a credible
pocket passer. He's also a dangerous runner. But if you
watch Justin Fields, if you watch the coach's tape, the
All twenty two they call it, he's had opportunities to
throw the football.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It's on him. He doesn't pull the trigger. He's been sacked.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Why is he being sacked because he holds onto the football?
Now is he holding onto the football because he doesn't
want to be that running quarterback Michael Vick got one
hundred million dollars after he learned how to stay in
the pocket. You can run only so long. Justin Fields
is going to find that out because when you start
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to slow down, those other guys don't and you're gonna
get hit.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
He's gotten hit more than anybody. Run. Run if you
want to, if that's your offense. Run.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But when you say I got too much information, that's
when you go to the coaching staff and you say, coach,
I need to be freer out there. Got to help
me a little bit. Not to the media, and I
loved it. But you don't go to the media and say, hey,
I'm robotic. The coaches are the blame, I mean right now,
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unless you're not getting anything from these coaches where hey,
I've told them this, they want me to be this. Okay,
I mean there's a lot there, but when you play
the blame game, it rarely goes well.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
For the for the blamer.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Blame the media too.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yes, you guys lack clicks.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yeah, you guys said.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You guys said that.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
You guys made me say that coaching things for clicks.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Yes, you guys do that. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Pauling quick question for the room, and I'll let it
sit out there, because you guys are not Bears fans,
and most people listening are not Bears fans. Who do
you think the average sports fan think is to blame
for what happened yesterday?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Justin fields or other I'd say the media.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
You don't think the Bears organization, like for general struggles
and struggles at the quarterback position. Is it the person
they have a quarterback or the organization that Well, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
If the quote is in context, then does that kind
of water this down a little bit? So I'm going
to start with, you know, the quote taken out of
context and let it you let it hang there. That's
when everybody was like, WHOA, do you hear what Justin
Field said?
Speaker 8 (18:43):
I guess I mean more bigger picture, the Bears are
very good at well.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Justin Field should not have said this publicly, that's all.
If he doesn't say it publicly, then we don't have this.
So I have to start there. If he's not getting
answers in the building, then you got a bigger problem there.
Bears had a bad day yesterday and they got the
Chiefs coming up. They had a defensive their defensive coordinator quit.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Under suspicious circumstances.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yes, is the question who's to blame for the story
yesterday or who's to blame for the Bears not being
any good?
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Yeah, it's more like the Bears not being any good consistently.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's two answers.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I think those are two different questions.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I could blame that reporter yesterday for that being a story. Yeah,
he I mean that absolutely became a story because of
that tweet.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Yes. So my final point is you said, and I
agree with you, that if they if Mahomes went to
the Bears. He'd probably be a B level quarterback right
now even he couldn't out outlast the Bears.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Or what do they do?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
What's what's the problem with this franchise that they can't
get a good quarterback. I don't think they've had a
four thousand yard passer ever, really, I don't think. I
think Eric Kramer was like the closest. Okay, maybe Fields.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, I have a question for you, and we can
save our answers. If you're Caleb Williams and you had
an opportunity to go to Arizona or Chicago, what would.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
You tay or other? All right, herm Edward's gonna join us.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm gonna ask her what would he have done if
he was the head coach of the Bears yesterday with
Justin Fields?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
He'll join us?
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pull question before, however, we get to our good buddy,
Herman Edwards.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
More to blame for the bears struggles, the quarterback, the coaches,
the organization itself.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Well, that's a long term and a short term answer
in there. Herm Edwards, former head coach college in the NFL.
He appears on the new football theme show Monday Blinch
at three Eastern on the Mothership, as well as Sports
Center and ESPN Radio as well. Good morning, Herm. Let
me start there. Who's to blame for this mess in Chicago?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh boy, you can kind of spread it around. I
think when you look at this football team play, you
know they're still in the mode of trying to rebuild.
Obviously their offensive line. Defensively, they've struggled the last couple
of years. Have a quarterback that's unique and in the
sense that you know, he's basically I hate to say this,
(22:54):
in pro football now that we have RBO quarterbacks and
what you do with them, the style of offense run
with him is very important. I think he made light
of it in his press conference. I think he walks
some things back. But basically, you know, this is what
happens in pro football. A lot coaches come in with
systems and their system is bigger than the player. Well,
(23:15):
if you want to be a successful coach, you have
to massage your system around the player skill set.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, but it feels like we've seen coaches adapt to
that that they know I'm not going to ask you
to be different. If I'm coaching Cam Newton, I got
to let Cam Newton be Cam Newton or Michael Vick
or Patrick Mahomes. And this situation's interesting because usually that
third year, you see the quarterback start to make that
you know, progression, like all of a sudden, you go, Okay,
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you're going to make that jump or you're not going
to make that jump. But I'm wondering, how would you
coach how would you coach justin fields?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Well, obviously I'm going to allow him to use his legs.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
That's going to be part of the passing game.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know, they they tried to do it a little
bit last year, and I think what they were worried
about he ran so much.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
You know, he ran for over eleven hundred yards. I
mean it's a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean that's you know, those are numbers like you
scratch your head at. I think our vision of him
would be some of the Jalen Hursts. What he's been
able to do as a quarterback. You know, still has
the ability to run, it, can throw the ball. He's
more comfortable in the pocket now. And that's the case
when you watch justin Fields. I mean last week you're
(24:31):
watching it's almost like a statue in the pocket, decision
making when to get the ball out. You know, he
struggles with that. Sometimes quarterbacks are timing their rhythm. You
got to get them going early in the game. And
those are the things that I think going into this
week you'll see from Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
But now you've got Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh boy, you know you can't beat Green Bay, you
can't beat Tampa Bay. And now all of a sudden,
you got the Chiefs who are fully assembled with Chris
Jones and Travis Kelcey and is he is he just
gonna go all right, I'm going back to the way
I did last year. I'm just going to run and
try to create something here and not stay in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I think you'll see more of that this week. He'll
he'll leave obviously when he feels that he can move
the chains. And I think for quarterbacks like this and
you know this, Dan, you watched football a long time
as well, you got to get him started, you know,
early in this game. They've got to see some completions
to get him confident that that's any quarterback. And I
think how you design that is very important.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
His mechanisms.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You know, generally you dial up a play and there's
always a check down. His checkdown is his legs. Okay,
it's not open, you know what, take off man, go ahead,
and you know that's that's what we did with with
Jayden Daniels his freshman year when he when he played
for US at Arizona State. You know, it was like
the checkdown is your legs man, you know, if you're
not there, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
And go.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well, you can do that in college.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I think justin fields is trying to out athlete defenses
and you can't do that in college. You can do
that at Ohio State and you can do that, you
can't do that. It's not sustainable there. And I think
that's what would concern me if I'm I'm the Bears.
You passed up on you know, Bryce Young, you know
you traded that number one pick. Here's your guy, and
(26:19):
at some point you're going to have to extend him
or you have to move on from him.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
This will be a big year for them, you know,
this season. How he finishes and if he continues to develop.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
They'll be fine. If not, that's the question they're gonna
have to ask yourself.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I was wondering if you're Caleb Williams, you know, and
you're going I could go to the Bears, or I
could go to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, and you know, and and and these quarterbacks you
have to realize you get picked number one, you're probably
going to go to a team you know that that
didn't win a lot of games. And that's you can
dodge it and say, well, almost stay another year. A
lot of these guys can, because of the money they
can get for the name image you like, stay in
college longer. That that's maybe the good thing about college football.
(27:04):
Guys can stay in a little longer if they if
they choose to write.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Or he could pull an Eli Manning and just say look,
I don't want to go. I don't want to go
to your organization.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
That'd be interesting.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Talking to her.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Edwards, the former player, coach, college and the NFL, how
do you explain what Dion has done and can it
be replicated around the country.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
There's only one.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Dion Sanders, There's no doubt about that. Dean's a good friend.
I'm enjoying it like everyone else. He's brought national attention
to his program, along with a team that is very exciting. Right,
He's got some really good players. It's a shame about
the kid Hunter. I thought, you know, the way he
was playing. If he continued at this pace, he's got
(27:52):
to be talked about as a Heisman. Guy who does that,
who plays one hundred and sixty plays in a football game,
I mean, that's that can see anything like that. I mean,
he's a phenomenal athlete. But he's brought national attention Dion.
No matter if you're a Colorade of Buffalo fan or now,
you want to see these guys play. I mean, it's
(28:12):
it's funny. And his son is a tremendous player now.
I mean, boy, he can play quarterback now, and.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
So it's it's something that's unique.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I don't think you can replicate it because there's only
one Dion Sanders. Now, what you can replicate is this,
he understands the portal. He understands this free agency in
college football. Now, how you build your team, you're gonna
have to kind of go outside the walls. You know,
there's free agency, you have the ability to bring players in.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Could you see Dion coaching in the NFL one day?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
That would be interesting. I think his aspirations might be
to do that later on. Uh, it would It would
be very interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So what's the biggest difference with that?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
HERM, Well, you.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Know his presonse, how he's going about getting these young
guys excited, and you know all the Row Robinson college football,
pro football, and Dion knows this.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
He was a great player, All of Famer. Maybe he's
the best corner I ever played a game, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
How you handle that with NFL players, You know, you're
gonna have an old group of guys. You're gonna have
some young group of guys that can buy into what
he's doing. The old guys who just say, look, man,
I don't want to.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Hear all that, right.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So, but I think he's smart enough to know if
he gets to that level, he'll handle it.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
He'll be able to handle it.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And I didn't think this would be their year. I
thought it would be next year. And now they go
to Oregon. They got USC. Right, How sustainable do you
think this is for Dion?
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Well? I think this.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I think Oregon will be a really be a really
good game for them to see where they're at.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
SC. I believe this. I don't see SC's defense.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't know if it's improved that much so you
can score and it could be a scoring game against SC, right,
I mean that's that's how you look at it and
see it makes no bones. I mean with that quarterback,
you could score as many as you want, right, and
that offense they have boys.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
It's fun to watch too. I mean you won't be
able to sit down.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I mean if you go, like go get a snack,
you might somebody might score a touchdown time you leave
and come back.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Right, But this will be an interesting two weeks.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
For where do you put Micah Parsons now as great defenders?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Oh boy?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Not just in the game now, but is he starting
to slip into a different category?
Speaker 7 (30:36):
That's the talk. I won't say he is as I
won't say he.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Has taken the thrown away from fifty six that played
for the Giants.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
You know that is I was just with him about
a month ago.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But you saw LT, a young LT or he was
my era.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, we played against each other, and how would you
describe that?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I'll he wrecked the game, but he physically correct the
game too. That's the difference I see LT was and
it's because he's bigger.
Speaker 11 (31:08):
He was a big man that could run and could
just you know, allude. But but he was physical. I mean,
he could physically dominate you. It was a scary physicalness
with LT. And so Michael Parsons.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Is unbelievable though.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I mean his ability sixty percent of the time, sixty
percent of the time he beats one on one. The
average in the National Football League is seventeen percent. He's
winning at a sixty percent rate.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
That's unheard of. I mean the whole league is at seventeen.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
He's at sixty.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I don't know, I figure out how we're number Eleven's
that I'd send two guys at and for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well remember Joe Gibbs did that with LT. Sure that
you brought that you kept the tight end and you know,
you know I had Joe Jacobe there because yeah, if not,
then you know you got trouble in the backfield.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
No, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
But the problem now in football, and you know it,
college has really taken over in the NFL too. You
don't see two tight ends hardly anymore. Yeah, you know,
you don't see two running backs. I mean you see
three wide receivers, four wide receivers, one tight end, three
wide receivers, one back them that's what you see. They
spread you out because if not, the receivers are getting mad. Right,
you got to deal with these receivers that want the
(32:22):
ball and every other play there're seven eleven. They're always open.
That's what they tell you on the sideline. I'm open, man, Okay,
we'll get you the ball. We get it right.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I was talking about Dan Marino yesterday. I think at
the end of the end of your career, you faced Marine.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
I played against it. Yes, I.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Keep saying he if I could play the position, I
would want to play the way he played the position
because he just he was ahead of his time.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
What he did?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You know, five wide empty backfield and let's you know,
that's what you have in college, high school, and now
some of the NFL teams.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Well, look, Mark, Duper, Clayton not more. They had them
all right. I had to cover them. I was trying
to cover those guys.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Oh, he's unbelievable at quarterback, maybe one of the He's
in the top three quarterbacks ever played in my opinion.
Way he got the ball out, his accuracy, his arm, talent.
I mean, it was just I remember when he came
in the league.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
I said, who is it?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You know, Washington College, and all of a sudden you're
playing against then all of a sudden, you got Duper,
you got Clayton, you got that Moore.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
I mean it's like, oh boy, here, who are these guys? Right?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
We had to play them, and we had a great
defense at Philadelphia, but they they gave us, they gave
they made us work. Jimmy Ceffalo was in the slot too.
Don't get up.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, Penn State, Jimmy Cehalo.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Yeah, they had a good crew.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
How you doing, I'm good.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Traveling on the weekends, obviously leaving going back to the Mothership,
as you mentioned, and there on Sundays, Mondays and you
know a little bit Tuesday to come home.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
So but I'm good. My girls are growing up.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I got one that's a senior now looking at colleges.
She's a journalist major, so she's in a couple of spots.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
You know, tell her to tell her to get into
another field than that.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
You know, it's too late, it's too late.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I was watching the video of when you walked off
the field when you were told that you got fired,
Like we're talking about those like Lane Kiffin getting fired
on the tarmac there. Uh, I mean, what goes through
your mind and somebody is filming this when you're walking
on But you.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Know what idea that was happening?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
No, no, and that was more. That wasn't that. That's
not that statement. People said that you know, he talked
about I got fired And.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Now, okay, no, that wasn't it at all.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
We we always meet there, we always talk ADN and
the president and no, that it wasn't.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
That didn't happen like people make it to be.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, so you can tell your daughter how the media
takes stories and then they.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Well, I was a part of the media.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
But imagine if you're Lane Kiffin where they don't let
you get on the bus coach and after a loss.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, and I'm happy for Lane. You know, Lane was
with us in Tampa when he was a young kid.
He was the ball boy when we were down in
Tampa Bay. Money was Money was his father. Money was
the coordinator. I was the assistant head coach, Love. He
was a linebacker coach. Rod Marinelli was the d line coach.
We had a crew of really good coaches. And then
when I left to go to New York, Tomlin took
my spot. So Lane was on the sideline as a
(35:36):
young kid growing up. I remember Lane when he was,
you know, in high school.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
So did you think at any point that guy would
be a head coach?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
You know, you wondered, because because when you just watching
him grow up. You know, Nathaniel Hackett, Nathaniel Hackett was
the ball boy up in New York with me, with Paul,
you know Paul, I mean, Paul was he was listen
to this.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
That's how far we go back. I mean when I
went to Cal as a freshman, Paul Hackett was the.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
GA grad assistant.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
Yes, at cal Berkeley. That's how far I go back
with Paul. And then when I wanted to run the
West Coast offense in New York.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I hire Paul, you know, because he was with washing
all those guys and run my offense with Chad bennyton
right and Nathaniel and my son were playing.
Speaker 12 (36:22):
It was like the ball boys. Boy, you stay in
this league long enough, you see it, you know. And
John Gruden was a ball boy at Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, unbelievable. How it works.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Good to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I guess that's the thing is you got to start
out as a ball boy. That's how you become a
head coach in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Just hey, and you know of his dad just kind
of hang around and all of a sudden, you know,
things happen, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And good, good, good to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
Thank you, buddy, always my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
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Wild Card in the National League is getting tight. Marlin's
Cubs and the Reds locked up for that last wild
card spot. You got Giants Niners coming up tonight. No Saquon,
no problem for the Giants, Right, this is one of
those Well, it's going to be a blowout, right this one.
(40:13):
These games always make me nervous. You don't have much
time to prepare. You don't have your best player. You're
playing against the Niners. You don't have your left tackle.
Bosa is going to be ready to go against Danny Dimes.
And then you'll get an odd player too. And it
always feels like like twenty four to nineteen or something
crazy like that. The Bears against Kansas City, what is
(40:36):
that thirteen points thirteen and.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
A half, I think and climbing.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, And keep an eye out on the Bears situation
with their former defensive coordinator. There's a lot of speculation
as to why he resigned, and it's not good speculation.
There's some some rumors attached to this and we won't
mention what those are is the reason why, but just
keep an eye out on that. With the story that
(41:01):
may emerge here before the show is over.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Here's one for you.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I don't know if this will be brought up, well,
I'll bring it up today on the Gambling podcast with
the Boys. I have one for It's not a lock,
not a lock, but I'm going to bring it up
to Shan Irving, Bad Larry and Dylan the graphics guy.
Since the Raiders moved to Las Vegas, the over under
the over has been one of the better bets in football.
(41:30):
The over in Raiders home games since moving there is
seventy one percent of the time you're a winner. The
total for Sunday's game against Pittsburgh is forty three. Will
the Raiders Steelers go over? Because right now you win
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I'll bring it up to the boys when we take
the podcast today.
Speaker 8 (42:01):
Yes point, that's I wonder what the philosophy is behind that.
Is there some type of Vegas philosophy.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
That I don't know?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It could be just one of those statistical anomalyes, right.
Speaker 8 (42:12):
But they've been leaning under for a while on Raiders'
home games.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
It's like Iowa football.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
You normally take the under and they keep Well, didn't
they they had a blowout when this past weekend. Didn't
they play a mac team and they scored like forty
five points?
Speaker 8 (42:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I think so something like that. The Hawk eys the
Iowa hawkhus Yes. By the way, anytime touchdowns score Thursday
night prop bets, according to DraftKings, who has the best
odds to score at a touchdown tonight, Yes.
Speaker 8 (42:45):
Point Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
That would be the blue bloop by far. That's a
layup though, right, Yes, here's one for you. Odds to Deebo.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Samuel is second, and then it's Brandon Ayuk, who I
don't even know if he's playing or not.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I think he's banged up a little bit.
Speaker 8 (43:03):
And he's ahead of all the Giants players, yelaying, I'm
gonna make it tough to score.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Elijah Mitchell is in there, and then Danny Dimes, but
most of the prop bets are for the Niners to
score first. They have four guys who will have better
odds than any on the Giants. All right, odds to
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done for the year, who is the favorite to lead
(43:31):
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with you, Derrick Henry he second.
Speaker 8 (43:37):
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These games are always interesting when you only have three
(00:45):
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The Niners are large favorites tonight to take down the
Giants in San Francisco, and the main story here is
the injuries. Trying to get ready for a game in
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I think the glasses would probably need to be applied
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all of that. Forthcoming football coming up tonight. Got a
busy show, great guest list including Herm Edwards, our good buddy.
He'll join us coming up in about fifteen minutes. Andy
Staples covers college football. Chris Long, former NFL player, will
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stop by as well. But the big news is not
necessarily the game tonight. It's the mess that was yesterday
in Chicago. Justin Fields has a mess to clean up,
and this.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Is how it all started.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Now, keep in mind when you see a tweet, you
don't know if it's in context or can you put
it in context? Justin Fields, this was a tweet yesterday.
Justin Fields is doing a press conference and there was
a tweet that was sent out. Justin Fields acknowledged that
he has been playing too robotic, then bit the pin
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of off the grenade and rolled it into the building
with his explanation for why he believes it's that way
he said coaching, and then there was the tweet that
followed that said, wow, a lot more of that in
a bit, Well, there is a lot more to the
answer that Justin Fields has, so let's put it in context.
(03:53):
Here's Justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I felt like, you know, I wasn't necessarily playing my game.
I felt like I was kind of robotic and not
playing like myself. My goal this week is just to
say effid and just go out there and play football
how I know how to play football. That includes thinking
less than just going out there and playing off for
instincts rather than just so much so to say info
in my head died in my head and literally just
going out there playing football, because that's when you know
(04:16):
I play my best is I'm just out there playing
free and being myself.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Okay, so yeah, it's on coaching, but it's on him.
And then there was more to it after that.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I don't think it's too many coaching voices, but I
just think when you're fed a lot of information at
a point in time and trying to think about that info,
like when you're playing, it doesn't let you play like yourself.
You're trying to, you know, process so much information to
where it's like, if I just simplified in my mind,
I would have did this, like I've saw a few
plays on Sunday to where I was playing like my
old self, Like we would have had a positive play,
(04:50):
like there would have been, you know, a few more
third down conversions. So I think that's the biggest thing
for me is just you know, playing the game, how
I know how to play it, how I've been playing
in my whole life.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
So I got to get back to.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Doing I don't think he realized what he said. Now
he had comments to say, and then after practice he
basically welcomed the media over That doesn't happen. Athletes are like,
I don't want to answer any more questions, But.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Here you go. Here's justin fields later in the day.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
This is the one that got him in hot water.
This is the one before practice.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh okay, what do you say thinking less?
Speaker 8 (05:25):
What do you think was causing you to think so much?
Speaker 6 (05:27):
If he thinks much, could be coaching. They're doing their
job when they're giving me what's a look at and
stuff like that. But at the end of the day,
I can't be thinking about that. When the game comes,
I prepare myself throughout the week and then when the
game comes, it's it's time to play free at that point,
so you know, just thinking less and playing more.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Okay, But if you stop the tweet and you'd stop
at coaching, then all of a sudden, you've detonated the grenade.
He did go on to say, you know other things.
I think once you say what you really feel, and
then I think he caught himsel off in the moment
and he's like, you know what, I need to clean
that up a little bit. Then you go to practice.
(06:05):
Then after practice, that's when he probably checks his phone
social media, and all of a sudden you realize there's
something to this.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well what do you do?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What do you do if you're Matt Eberfluse, he's the
head coach of the Bears.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Did you have the same come the same conclusion after
the game when you watch that game and he needs
to get back to play the wheel?
Speaker 9 (06:27):
Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, and you know if
he's feeling that way, then you know then yes, you know.
I think that player needs to feel free, he needs
to have the flow of the game, he needs to
use his instincts. That's what you want from players, right
you know, you have you have any players like that, right,
if it's a receiver, linebacker, defensive line, those guys you
got to play free, right and you know the guys
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were brought here to play that way.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
We want to see them. We want to see those
in the game situations.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
Certainly, as a quarterback, you got to go through your progressions,
but there's also instincts that are involved in that, and
we want them to have that flow. We want them
to have that freedom to do those things.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I can't imagine what it must have been like for
the head coach to have been told what Justin Field said.
Pr person probably said, coach, come here. Justin kind of
called out the coaching staff and he's playing robotic what
And then you go to practice and you're probably steaming
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through practice. All of a sudden it's going viral. Now
at the end of practice, I think that's where you
call over the quarterback and say, you know what, you
got to clarify some things here. You know, I'm gonna
tamp this down. This isn't a big deal. Your defensive
coordinator just quit like you're zero and two. Your coach,
(07:45):
you know, does he make me too robotic? There are
too many voices here. I want to be free. I
want to play. You got the Kansas City Chiefs coming up.
Oh no, you're twelve and a half or thirteen point
underdogs here. Then all of a sudden, they're like porters,
Come on back in. Let me try to make this
a little bit better, a little bit nicer. It feels
(08:05):
like Justin Field said what he felt, and that is
he's being robotic. He's not running the ball. They're trying
to make him a pouncer and he might not be
a pouncer. Here's what he said after practice.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
I love you guys, but you know I get that
you guys's jobs are to get clicked. So it's like
when you take my quote out of context and when
you just say that, if you paint the picture on
the inside out, like y'all are trying.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
To split us up at till. I'm not blaming anything
on the coaches.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
I'm never gonna blame anything on the coaches, never gonna
blame anything on my teammates.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
I will take every whatever happens in the game, I
would take all the blame. I don't care to drop pass,
which it should have been a pass.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
I'll play it on me, but never when you hear
anything come out of my mouth to where I will
blame it.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
On somebody else in this organization. My teammates never hear that.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
So I just want to cry that out and just
know that, like, I need to play better if y'all
that's that's what I should have said in the first place.
But you know, I was trying to give you all
more details because because you know, I appreciate youallfer doing
what y'all do, and I try to give you all
the information y'all want for you guys job. So I'm
gonna do that and in the future, Like, but I
(09:15):
ask you guys just to put the.
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Whole quote out.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Don't cut it up into words and pieces to make
it seem like I'm saying something that I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, that part is fair, but don't tell me that
you're going to give the reporters a little bit more
because I you know, I respect what you guys do. Uh,
let me throw some people under the bus here while
I give you something else to write about.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
See, this is a classic case of half and then half.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yes see, my guy, less is more, Less is more,
My dude, It's it's way too much.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
All you need to say is my bad.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm frustrated, and I should be putting the blame on me,
not anybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's on me. I'm a competitor. I want to win.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I'm embarrassed out there because I'm better than this, and
I still want to be a playoff team. I'm a
playoff type quarterback here. I just I got to start,
you know, getting a better game plan, processing that better,
and being able to go out on the field and
then deliver that.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I can't think of a SoundBite that I've heard recently
where someone is right and then wrong, and then right
and then wrong. And if it was like a scale,
it would be going up and down up, are you right?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And then you're wrong? That No, no, don't say that.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yes no, don't say that.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yes do say that It was a teeter todd.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Okay, that makes us No no, no, no, don't say that.
Oh no, yes, okay, now you got Oh no, don't yeah, Paul.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
You know what, someone's backing up a car. You're giving adresses?
Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yep, a right here,
just come to me.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
No, no, no, no, no, he was so close like his.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Point about the media taking the coaching word and leaving
it as a standalone. He's right, that set off the
fire yesterday, Nashley.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
But it's like when you're trying to back up a
truck with a boat and.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You always had to go the opposite, you know, it's like, wait,
do I go this?
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
No, no, no, I go to this? Oh this, that's
what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
He's got his pickup truck and there's a boat on
the back and he's trying to back it up.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
And the funny part of it, too is that he's right,
it was not put in the proper context. However, when
put in the proper context, he's blaming the coaches.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
He did, so the.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Cut, ultimately, the point was exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
He does blame coaches, and then he goes on to
talk about other things. But you start out by blaming
the coaches, you blame yourself. Then if you want to say,
you know what I got to get with the coaches,
I got to get the information quicker. I can't be robotic,
you know, I'm spontaneous. This is what I did the
first couple of years.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I know they want to make me a pocket passer.
You know, my goal is to be like Lamar Jackson,
but right now I'm still learning that process. He might
be Cam Newton. He might not be a good pass
a pocket passer. He might just That's where you just say,
go out and play and if you get hurt, you
get hurt. But you already decided that you traded away
(12:10):
the number one pick. You gave that up. You believed
in justin fields, and that's all management has to say.
And the coaching staff, Look, we believe in him. We
gave up the first round first pick overall, that's how
much we believe in him. He is our quarterback. We
will get this right. But they're not a good team.
(12:30):
The expectation level. I didn't understand it, still don't understand it.
Do I think or did I think he'd rush for
one thousand yards?
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Did I think that they were a six win team? Yes,
that's it. Nothing else to see here, Yes, Ton.
Speaker 10 (12:46):
How does someone from the media not to defend the
group and themselves saying, you know, we want to get clicks.
You said that they're making me robotic, that there's too
much information. The very first thing he said was that
it could be the coaching.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, the rest of the media doesn't have to try
to explain for the original tweet. The original tweet once again, I'll.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Give that to you. That says.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
He acknowledged that he's been playing too robotic, but then
bit the pin off the grenade and rolled it into
the building with his explanation for why he believes it's
that way. And then in parentheses or quotations, it says coaching.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
That's on the Chicago Tribune reporters.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
That's in pin off the grenade is so funny.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
It's inflammatory.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, but he doesn't add anything more Now after coaching
in parentheses, he could have said Fields also acknowledged that
he's to blame or whatever it might be, but he
just put wow a lot more on that in a bit.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
You know, it's funny we're with Twitter these days or X.
You're not limited anymore. It's not like you're limited in
characters or what you could write. He could have written
the entire quote or could have written in a context
right off the bat, because this made everyone tune into
the process.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And yeah, now all of a sudden, I cared about
the Bears, and I normally don't care about the Bears.
I think I did an eighty five. That's the last
time I cared about the Bears. Yes see, I might be.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Like out on like an island on this one, But
I don't actually think what he said was all that
bad when he blamed coaching. I don't think the idea
that saying, like, you know, the coaches are filling my
head with too much stuff. He could have said it better.
He could have said, you know, I'm having a hard
time processing all of the infor no, actually you can't
say that. You can't say I'm having a hard time
process and all this. But he I don't think that
(14:34):
his main point of this is being made too complicated
and I'm getting too much information is all that bad.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
You have to start by blaming yourself.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Then if you want to say, look, I'm robotic and
I keep you know, I'm trying to process the play.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
But nothing is more robotic than quarterbacks being like this
starts with me, starts with me. Well, that's like the
most robotic quarterbacks, I say, I know. That's that's when
he needed to be robotic, seat and stupid.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
That's when he needed to be robota. Sorry, being like, if.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
It's a drop pass, then blame it on me. That's
the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
That's I hate.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
That's this part about like quarterbacks in sports.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
It starts with me.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I love him that dude dropped the pass. I love
that he gave us this quote. But he could have
said what he needed to say in a different way.
Then this isn't a story. First of all, it's Chicago.
They are hungry for a winner, and you bypassed the
number one overall pick. You kept him and you're now
over and too. You lost to the Packers at home,
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you lost to Tampa Bay, and now you have Kansas City.
You know this is desperate, desperate times here and is
Justin Fields their future? I mean, we're going to find
out here real quick if they're all in on Justin Fields.
Everybody brings up well Mitchell Trubisky led him to to
playoff great and he hasn't played football since they got
(15:57):
rid of him. They had a better tea goes back
to what I said about Patrick Mahomes. If you put
Patrick Mahomes on the Bears, he's a curiosity. They're not
a good team. He's on a great team in Kansas City,
and he's a great quarterback. As a result, he takes
advantage of all of those things.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Justin Fields needs.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
To have somebody that he tries to emulate, and I
say it's Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson has become a credible
pocket passer. He's also a dangerous runner. But if you
watch Justin Fields, if you watch the coach's tape, the
All twenty two they call it, he's had opportunities to
throw the football.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It's on him. He doesn't pull the trigger. He's been sacked.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Why is he being sacked because he holds onto the football?
Now is he holding onto the football because he doesn't
want to be that running quarterback Michael Vick got one
hundred million dollars after he learned how to stay in
the pocket. You can run only so long. Justin Fields
is going to find that out because when you start
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to slow down, those other guys don't and you're gonna
get hit.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
He's gotten hit more than anybody. Run. Run if you
want to, if that's your offense. Run.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But when you say I got too much information, that's
when you go to the coaching staff and you say, coach,
I need to be freer out there. Got to help
me a little bit. Not to the media, and I
loved it. But you don't go to the media and say, hey,
I'm robotic. The coaches are the blame, I mean right now,
(17:35):
unless you're not getting anything from these coaches where hey,
I've told them this, they want me to be this. Okay,
I mean there's a lot there, but when you play
the blame game, it rarely goes well.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
For the for the blamer.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Blame the media too.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yes, you guys lack clicks.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yeah, you guys said.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You guys said that.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
You guys made me say that coaching things for clicks.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Yes, you guys do that. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Pauling quick question for the room, and I'll let it
sit out there, because you guys are not Bears fans,
and most people listening are not Bears fans. Who do
you think the average sports fan think is to blame
for what happened yesterday?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Justin fields or other I'd say the media.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
You don't think the Bears organization, like for general struggles
and struggles at the quarterback position. Is it the person
they have a quarterback or the organization that Well, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
If the quote is in context, then does that kind
of water this down a little bit? So I'm going
to start with, you know, the quote taken out of
context and let it you let it hang there. That's
when everybody was like, WHOA, do you hear what Justin
Field said?
Speaker 8 (18:43):
I guess I mean more bigger picture, the Bears are
very good at well.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Justin Field should not have said this publicly, that's all.
If he doesn't say it publicly, then we don't have this.
So I have to start there. If he's not getting
answers in the building, then you got a bigger problem there.
Bears had a bad day yesterday and they got the
Chiefs coming up. They had a defensive their defensive coordinator quit.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Under suspicious circumstances.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yes, is the question who's to blame for the story
yesterday or who's to blame for the Bears not being
any good?
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Yeah, it's more like the Bears not being any good consistently.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's two answers.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I think those are two different questions.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I could blame that reporter yesterday for that being a story. Yeah,
he I mean that absolutely became a story because of
that tweet.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Yes. So my final point is you said, and I
agree with you, that if they if Mahomes went to
the Bears. He'd probably be a B level quarterback right
now even he couldn't out outlast the Bears.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Or what do they do?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
What's what's the problem with this franchise that they can't
get a good quarterback. I don't think they've had a
four thousand yard passer ever, really, I don't think. I
think Eric Kramer was like the closest. Okay, maybe Fields.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, I have a question for you, and we can
save our answers. If you're Caleb Williams and you had
an opportunity to go to Arizona or Chicago, what would.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
You tay or other? All right, herm Edward's gonna join us.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm gonna ask her what would he have done if
he was the head coach of the Bears yesterday with
Justin Fields?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
He'll join us?
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pull question before, however, we get to our good buddy,
Herman Edwards.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
More to blame for the bears struggles, the quarterback, the coaches,
the organization itself.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Well, that's a long term and a short term answer
in there. Herm Edwards, former head coach college in the NFL.
He appears on the new football theme show Monday Blinch
at three Eastern on the Mothership, as well as Sports
Center and ESPN Radio as well. Good morning, Herm. Let
me start there. Who's to blame for this mess in Chicago?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh boy, you can kind of spread it around. I
think when you look at this football team play, you
know they're still in the mode of trying to rebuild.
Obviously their offensive line. Defensively, they've struggled the last couple
of years. Have a quarterback that's unique and in the
sense that you know, he's basically I hate to say this,
(22:54):
in pro football now that we have RBO quarterbacks and
what you do with them, the style of offense run
with him is very important. I think he made light
of it in his press conference. I think he walks
some things back. But basically, you know, this is what
happens in pro football. A lot coaches come in with
systems and their system is bigger than the player. Well,
(23:15):
if you want to be a successful coach, you have
to massage your system around the player skill set.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, but it feels like we've seen coaches adapt to
that that they know I'm not going to ask you
to be different. If I'm coaching Cam Newton, I got
to let Cam Newton be Cam Newton or Michael Vick
or Patrick Mahomes. And this situation's interesting because usually that
third year, you see the quarterback start to make that
you know, progression, like all of a sudden, you go, Okay,
(23:41):
you're going to make that jump or you're not going
to make that jump. But I'm wondering, how would you
coach how would you coach justin fields?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Well, obviously I'm going to allow him to use his legs.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
That's going to be part of the passing game.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know, they they tried to do it a little
bit last year, and I think what they were worried
about he ran so much.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
You know, he ran for over eleven hundred yards. I
mean it's a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean that's you know, those are numbers like you
scratch your head at. I think our vision of him
would be some of the Jalen Hursts. What he's been
able to do as a quarterback. You know, still has
the ability to run, it, can throw the ball. He's
more comfortable in the pocket now. And that's the case
when you watch justin Fields. I mean last week you're
(24:31):
watching it's almost like a statue in the pocket, decision
making when to get the ball out. You know, he
struggles with that. Sometimes quarterbacks are timing their rhythm. You
got to get them going early in the game. And
those are the things that I think going into this
week you'll see from Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
But now you've got Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh boy, you know you can't beat Green Bay, you
can't beat Tampa Bay. And now all of a sudden,
you got the Chiefs who are fully assembled with Chris
Jones and Travis Kelcey and is he is he just
gonna go all right, I'm going back to the way
I did last year. I'm just going to run and
try to create something here and not stay in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I think you'll see more of that this week. He'll
he'll leave obviously when he feels that he can move
the chains. And I think for quarterbacks like this and
you know this, Dan, you watched football a long time
as well, you got to get him started, you know,
early in this game. They've got to see some completions
to get him confident that that's any quarterback. And I
think how you design that is very important.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
His mechanisms.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You know, generally you dial up a play and there's
always a check down. His checkdown is his legs. Okay,
it's not open, you know what, take off man, go ahead,
and you know that's that's what we did with with
Jayden Daniels his freshman year when he when he played
for US at Arizona State. You know, it was like
the checkdown is your legs man, you know, if you're
not there, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
And go.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well, you can do that in college.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I think justin fields is trying to out athlete defenses
and you can't do that in college. You can do
that at Ohio State and you can do that, you
can't do that. It's not sustainable there. And I think
that's what would concern me if I'm I'm the Bears.
You passed up on you know, Bryce Young, you know
you traded that number one pick. Here's your guy, and
(26:19):
at some point you're going to have to extend him
or you have to move on from him.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
This will be a big year for them, you know,
this season. How he finishes and if he continues to develop.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
They'll be fine. If not, that's the question they're gonna
have to ask yourself.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I was wondering if you're Caleb Williams, you know, and
you're going I could go to the Bears, or I
could go to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, and you know, and and and these quarterbacks you
have to realize you get picked number one, you're probably
going to go to a team you know that that
didn't win a lot of games. And that's you can
dodge it and say, well, almost stay another year. A
lot of these guys can, because of the money they
can get for the name image you like, stay in
college longer. That that's maybe the good thing about college football.
(27:04):
Guys can stay in a little longer if they if
they choose to write.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Or he could pull an Eli Manning and just say look,
I don't want to go. I don't want to go
to your organization.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
That'd be interesting.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Talking to her.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Edwards, the former player, coach, college and the NFL, how
do you explain what Dion has done and can it
be replicated around the country.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
There's only one.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Dion Sanders, There's no doubt about that. Dean's a good friend.
I'm enjoying it like everyone else. He's brought national attention
to his program, along with a team that is very exciting. Right,
He's got some really good players. It's a shame about
the kid Hunter. I thought, you know, the way he
was playing. If he continued at this pace, he's got
(27:52):
to be talked about as a Heisman. Guy who does that,
who plays one hundred and sixty plays in a football game,
I mean, that's that can see anything like that. I mean,
he's a phenomenal athlete. But he's brought national attention Dion.
No matter if you're a Colorade of Buffalo fan or now,
you want to see these guys play. I mean, it's
(28:12):
it's funny. And his son is a tremendous player now.
I mean, boy, he can play quarterback now, and.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
So it's it's something that's unique.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I don't think you can replicate it because there's only
one Dion Sanders. Now, what you can replicate is this,
he understands the portal. He understands this free agency in
college football. Now, how you build your team, you're gonna
have to kind of go outside the walls. You know,
there's free agency, you have the ability to bring players in.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Could you see Dion coaching in the NFL one day?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
That would be interesting. I think his aspirations might be
to do that later on. Uh, it would It would
be very interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So what's the biggest difference with that?
Speaker 7 (28:56):
HERM, Well, you.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Know his presonse, how he's going about getting these young
guys excited, and you know all the Row Robinson college football,
pro football, and Dion knows this.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
He was a great player, All of Famer. Maybe he's
the best corner I ever played a game, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
How you handle that with NFL players, You know, you're
gonna have an old group of guys. You're gonna have
some young group of guys that can buy into what
he's doing. The old guys who just say, look, man,
I don't want to.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Hear all that, right.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So, but I think he's smart enough to know if
he gets to that level, he'll handle it.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
He'll be able to handle it.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And I didn't think this would be their year. I
thought it would be next year. And now they go
to Oregon. They got USC. Right, How sustainable do you
think this is for Dion?
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Well? I think this.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I think Oregon will be a really be a really
good game for them to see where they're at.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
SC. I believe this. I don't see SC's defense.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't know if it's improved that much so you
can score and it could be a scoring game against SC, right,
I mean that's that's how you look at it and
see it makes no bones. I mean with that quarterback,
you could score as many as you want, right, and
that offense they have boys.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
It's fun to watch too. I mean you won't be
able to sit down.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I mean if you go, like go get a snack,
you might somebody might score a touchdown time you leave
and come back.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Right, But this will be an interesting two weeks.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
For where do you put Micah Parsons now as great defenders?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Oh boy?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Not just in the game now, but is he starting
to slip into a different category?
Speaker 7 (30:36):
That's the talk. I won't say he is as I
won't say he.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Has taken the thrown away from fifty six that played
for the Giants.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
You know that is I was just with him about
a month ago.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But you saw LT, a young LT or he was
my era.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, we played against each other, and how would you
describe that?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I'll he wrecked the game, but he physically correct the
game too. That's the difference I see LT was and
it's because he's bigger.
Speaker 11 (31:08):
He was a big man that could run and could
just you know, allude. But but he was physical. I mean,
he could physically dominate you. It was a scary physicalness
with LT. And so Michael Parsons.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Is unbelievable though.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I mean his ability sixty percent of the time, sixty
percent of the time he beats one on one. The
average in the National Football League is seventeen percent. He's
winning at a sixty percent rate.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
That's unheard of. I mean the whole league is at seventeen.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
He's at sixty.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I don't know, I figure out how we're number Eleven's
that I'd send two guys at and for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well remember Joe Gibbs did that with LT. Sure that
you brought that you kept the tight end and you know,
you know I had Joe Jacobe there because yeah, if not,
then you know you got trouble in the backfield.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
No, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
But the problem now in football, and you know it,
college has really taken over in the NFL too. You
don't see two tight ends hardly anymore. Yeah, you know,
you don't see two running backs. I mean you see
three wide receivers, four wide receivers, one tight end, three
wide receivers, one back them that's what you see. They
spread you out because if not, the receivers are getting mad. Right,
you got to deal with these receivers that want the
(32:22):
ball and every other play there're seven eleven. They're always open.
That's what they tell you on the sideline. I'm open, man, Okay,
we'll get you the ball. We get it right.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I was talking about Dan Marino yesterday. I think at
the end of the end of your career, you faced Marine.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
I played against it. Yes, I.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Keep saying he if I could play the position, I
would want to play the way he played the position
because he just he was ahead of his time.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
What he did?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You know, five wide empty backfield and let's you know,
that's what you have in college, high school, and now
some of the NFL teams.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Well, look, Mark, Duper, Clayton not more. They had them
all right. I had to cover them. I was trying
to cover those guys.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Oh, he's unbelievable at quarterback, maybe one of the He's
in the top three quarterbacks ever played in my opinion.
Way he got the ball out, his accuracy, his arm, talent.
I mean, it was just I remember when he came
in the league.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
I said, who is it?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You know, Washington College, and all of a sudden you're
playing against then all of a sudden, you got Duper,
you got Clayton, you got that Moore.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
I mean it's like, oh boy, here, who are these guys? Right?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
We had to play them, and we had a great
defense at Philadelphia, but they they gave us, they gave
they made us work. Jimmy Ceffalo was in the slot too.
Don't get up.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, Penn State, Jimmy Cehalo.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Yeah, they had a good crew.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
How you doing, I'm good.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Traveling on the weekends, obviously leaving going back to the Mothership,
as you mentioned, and there on Sundays, Mondays and you
know a little bit Tuesday to come home.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
So but I'm good. My girls are growing up.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I got one that's a senior now looking at colleges.
She's a journalist major, so she's in a couple of spots.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
You know, tell her to tell her to get into
another field than that.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
You know, it's too late, it's too late.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I was watching the video of when you walked off
the field when you were told that you got fired,
Like we're talking about those like Lane Kiffin getting fired
on the tarmac there. Uh, I mean, what goes through
your mind and somebody is filming this when you're walking
on But you.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Know what idea that was happening?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
No, no, and that was more. That wasn't that. That's
not that statement. People said that you know, he talked
about I got fired And.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Now, okay, no, that wasn't it at all.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
We we always meet there, we always talk ADN and
the president and no, that it wasn't.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
That didn't happen like people make it to be.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, so you can tell your daughter how the media
takes stories and then they.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Well, I was a part of the media.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
But imagine if you're Lane Kiffin where they don't let
you get on the bus coach and after a loss.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, and I'm happy for Lane. You know, Lane was
with us in Tampa when he was a young kid.
He was the ball boy when we were down in
Tampa Bay. Money was Money was his father. Money was
the coordinator. I was the assistant head coach, Love. He
was a linebacker coach. Rod Marinelli was the d line coach.
We had a crew of really good coaches. And then
when I left to go to New York, Tomlin took
my spot. So Lane was on the sideline as a
(35:36):
young kid growing up. I remember Lane when he was,
you know, in high school.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
So did you think at any point that guy would
be a head coach?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
You know, you wondered, because because when you just watching
him grow up. You know, Nathaniel Hackett, Nathaniel Hackett was
the ball boy up in New York with me, with Paul,
you know Paul, I mean, Paul was he was listen
to this.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
That's how far we go back. I mean when I
went to Cal as a freshman, Paul Hackett was the.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
GA grad assistant.
Speaker 7 (36:08):
Yes, at cal Berkeley. That's how far I go back
with Paul. And then when I wanted to run the
West Coast offense in New York.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I hire Paul, you know, because he was with washing
all those guys and run my offense with Chad bennyton
right and Nathaniel and my son were playing.
Speaker 12 (36:22):
It was like the ball boys. Boy, you stay in
this league long enough, you see it, you know. And
John Gruden was a ball boy at Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, unbelievable. How it works.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Good to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I guess that's the thing is you got to start
out as a ball boy. That's how you become a
head coach in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Just hey, and you know of his dad just kind
of hang around and all of a sudden, you know,
things happen, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And good, good, good to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
Thank you, buddy, always my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
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Wild Card in the National League is getting tight. Marlin's
Cubs and the Reds locked up for that last wild
card spot. You got Giants Niners coming up tonight. No Saquon,
no problem for the Giants, Right, this is one of
those Well, it's going to be a blowout, right this one.
(40:13):
These games always make me nervous. You don't have much
time to prepare. You don't have your best player. You're
playing against the Niners. You don't have your left tackle.
Bosa is going to be ready to go against Danny Dimes.
And then you'll get an odd player too. And it
always feels like like twenty four to nineteen or something
crazy like that. The Bears against Kansas City, what is
(40:36):
that thirteen points thirteen and.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
A half, I think and climbing.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, And keep an eye out on the Bears situation
with their former defensive coordinator. There's a lot of speculation
as to why he resigned, and it's not good speculation.
There's some some rumors attached to this and we won't
mention what those are is the reason why, but just
keep an eye out on that. With the story that
(41:01):
may emerge here before the show is over.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Here's one for you.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I don't know if this will be brought up, well,
I'll bring it up today on the Gambling podcast with
the Boys. I have one for It's not a lock,
not a lock, but I'm going to bring it up
to Shan Irving, Bad Larry and Dylan the graphics guy.
Since the Raiders moved to Las Vegas, the over under
the over has been one of the better bets in football.
(41:30):
The over in Raiders home games since moving there is
seventy one percent of the time you're a winner. The
total for Sunday's game against Pittsburgh is forty three. Will
the Raiders Steelers go over? Because right now you win
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I'll bring it up to the boys when we take
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Speaker 8 (42:01):
Yes point, that's I wonder what the philosophy is behind that.
Is there some type of Vegas philosophy.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
That I don't know?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It could be just one of those statistical anomalyes, right.
Speaker 8 (42:12):
But they've been leaning under for a while on Raiders'
home games.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
It's like Iowa football.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
You normally take the under and they keep Well, didn't
they they had a blowout when this past weekend. Didn't
they play a mac team and they scored like forty
five points?
Speaker 8 (42:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I think so something like that. The Hawk eys the
Iowa hawkhus Yes. By the way, anytime touchdowns score Thursday
night prop bets, according to DraftKings, who has the best
odds to score at a touchdown tonight, Yes.
Speaker 8 (42:45):
Point Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
That would be the blue bloop by far. That's a
layup though, right, Yes, here's one for you. Odds to Deebo.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Samuel is second, and then it's Brandon Ayuk, who I
don't even know if he's playing or not.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I think he's banged up a little bit.
Speaker 8 (43:03):
And he's ahead of all the Giants players, yelaying, I'm
gonna make it tough to score.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Elijah Mitchell is in there, and then Danny Dimes, but
most of the prop bets are for the Niners to
score first. They have four guys who will have better
odds than any on the Giants. All right, odds to
lead the NFL in rushing, now that Nick Chubb has
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in Alabama with Nick Saban? What's nil done to Alabama football?
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