September 19, 2023 • 45 mins
Dan thinks Nick Chubb's injury, along with injuries and poor performances from other high profile NFL running backs, only proves teams were right to balk at offering them excessive contracts. And after watching Bryce Young struggle last night, he reminds us that top draft picks often end up on bad teams.
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the official trading cards of this program. The NFL off
season was filled with a lot of questions around the
running back position, and rightfully so. There was this crusade
campaign they need to get paid, they need to have
guaranteed contracts. Well after week two of the regular season,
there's a cause for a concern that the running back
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position is exactly what we thought it was going to be.
Saquon Barkley, he fought tooth and nail to get that
one year, ten million dollar contract. He's played well, injured
his ankle, probably going to be out for three weeks.
Josh Jacobs similar position. He wanted to get paid, got paid.
He had negative two yards rushing this last weekend, and
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then last night Nick Chubb carted off the field after
that scary knee injury. Meanwhile, you have a career long
backup in Raheem Mostert. He had over one hundred and
twenty yards and two touchdowns for the Dolphins on Sunday
against the Patriots, and Mostert is paid one point two
million dollars this season. So while the running back position
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may seem appealing, this season's results are certainly a cautionary
tale for the NFL's front office. And you hate to
see that with any position, but these running backs, the
better they are, the more likely they're not going to
get paid, because the logic is, well, you rush for
fifteen hundred yards, that's a lot of abuse on your body.
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We don't do that with any other position, but we
do that with the running back position. Since coming into
the league in twenty eighteen, Nick Chubb has rushed for
sixty five hundred yards, second most to Derrick Henry forty
eight touchdowns, second most to Derrick Henry. Chubb averages two
point seven yards per carry after con contact, the most
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by any player with at least two hundred carries since
twenty eighteen. And no, no, it's okay, you can wasn't
done with the style of the day, But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Style of to day, steat of to day.
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Scout of to day.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
This is the start of the day.
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Stat of the Day, brought to you by Panadi America,
the official trading cards of this program. But Nick Chubb
is going to be done. We don't know if it's
season ending injury he's had, you know, surgically repaired knee
that he injured again last night in the loss by
the Cleveland Browns to the Steelers. Also the Saints over
the Panthers. That was a tough watch. I was trying
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to get excited about that, like, oh to NFC South
teams getting together, throw out the records, and I started watching.
I go, I don't know if Derek Carr is good.
I think he can be good, but I don't know
if he can be consistently good. And I'm watching. I'm
just waiting for something to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Here. Bryce Young, he's.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
A rookie, he looked like it, and he's going to
be running for his life just is I don't know
how good he is. And it goes back to what
I've said about these quarterbacks. Where you get drafted can
be a great indicator of how successful you're going to be.
The higher up, the longer it's going to take its
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Sometimes when you fall in the draft. Now you look
back on the history of the draft, there are guys
who fell for whatever reason, they fell, but they had
a better chance to be successful because they were going
to a better team. Bryce Young is on a team
that's not good. Justin Fields is on a team that's
not very good. You're asked to more. They expect you
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to do more and do it quicker. And Bryce Young
is going to face that this year. Here's his head coach,
Frank Wright, talking about his rookie quarterbacks performance.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I can tell you this. It's certainly you know our
struggle on offense. It's not one person. Again, we'll look
at the film, but you know, I thought Bryce still
did some really positive things. Made made some plays with
his feet, made some good decisions, made good throws, showed
plenty of things that we want to see. So it
was encouraged by that. I know how hard it is
to play that position. I've been around it a long time,
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and I know how dependent it is on everything. So
we all got to get better. Everybody's got better coaches
and players. So that's the way we work through it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean it's going to be a long year
and Bryce Young, it's a learning year. You just have
to be patient, and you know your expectation level has
to be lowered a little bit and his might have
to be lowered a little bit, but he does have
some qualities there that you hope that he's able and
he runs smart, uh you know, go out of bounds,
his slide and he's slight. He is very slight, but
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you know, got a great football acumen and maybe they
get some weapons in there. I mean, they gave up
their best weapon to get the opportunity to take Bryce
Young back to the Cleveland Browns. With the injury to
Nick Chubb. Here is head coach Kevin Stefanski of the brownst.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Network that it has suffered multiple.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Torn ligaments in I can't without imaging, I can't say
so significant the injury.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I do, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I Adam Schefter put out a report, but it was
it should have been flipped because when he first put
out the report about the injury, he mentioned Nick Chubb
had had this knee surgically repaired. I think a c
l M C L PCL and you would have thought
from his tweet that that's what he suffered last night,
and you know it should have been just you know,
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serious injury or could be a season ending whatever it
might be. And then you could say that he also
suffered these injuries to that same knee, but it was
not it was poorly designed. That tweet Deshaun Watson didn't
look good. He did talk about the value of Nick Chubb.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I know he don't have a seat on his on
his jersey, but you know, he's a captain, he's a
he's a leader, he's the definition of this of this team,
of this city, of this organization. And you know, we
had a lot of holes of Phil you know why
he's why he's away. So I mean it's even tough
to even speak on it, and just hopefully he you know,
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we get the best outcome for him.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now, there was a pick six that's not on Watson
unless you say he threw the ball a little too
hard the opening play, but a couple of penalties on him,
the one where he had his hand and in the
face mask of a Steeler defender almost looked like his
hand was caught in there and he couldn't get it out.
The officials saw it and flagged him. But it wasn't
a good performance. He got a Hall passed last year
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with Cleveland because we thought, okay, everything that's gone on
going to a new team, trying to get acclimated there,
so I think that the analyst sort of backed away
from him. Now let's see him have a full camp,
maybe move on from all the drama. And he has
not had a good start, so you know, you're no
longer on scholarship from the standpoint of, yeah, you know,
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let's give him a little bit of time. He was
a really good quarterback with the Texans. He was a
really good quarterback for a bad team and they had
to guarantee all of his money because he didn't want
to go to Cleveland, and they guaranteed all of his money.
And now you're stuck with him. And I don't know
if it was me, he didn't feel he just seemed
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very hesitant. You know, he didn't really commit to running.
And I don't remember being him being a great runner,
not not the way quarterbacks are now great runners, but
he's not elusive, and he just seemed like cautious. And
now without Nick Chubb, now they're going to rely on
you even more. And you saw that last night. Not
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a good performance. Can he Pickett? He's he's he has
has moments, but at that position, you can't just have movements.
You have to have more moments that are really good
than those moments where you go, oh my god, what happened? There?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Not great numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The Steeler defense bailed him out, but he's got weapons.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
There, so and I do like the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm high on the Steelers, not as much on the
Browns and the Bengals. With the Joe Burrows situation, they're
probably going to have to rest him for a couple
of weeks to ensure that they have him for three
quarters of the season. You got a game with the
Rams coming up on Monday night, and I don't think
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Joe Burrow is going to be playing because you have
to look at this.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
This is long term, this is bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You don't want to have an achilles injury here, obviously,
but this is where it starts with some athletes the
calf and then it becomes the achilles. So let's a
preemptive strike with this. Sit him down for a couple
of weeks and hopefully he responds to treatment and then
you get him back. But you just there's no need
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to have him out there on one leg, giving us
the old football try because you have too much invested
in him. So watching last night, certainly the chub injury
who's one of my favorite players. He just fifteen hundred yards,
doesn't say much, not a self promoter at all, just
plays good football. I mean, Sony Michelle was thought to
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be a better running back coming out of college. Nick
Chubb is just like, all right, yeah, he's pretty good. No,
he's really good. No, he's as good as any running
back in football. And that's a huge loss for the Browns. Now,
he got a second contract, and I don't know. Is
he two years into that second contract?
Speaker 8 (11:15):
PAULI, Yeah, he signed because remembery, he did get second
round money, not a ton of money coming out of college.
He signed a three year, thirty six million dollar deal
a couple of years ago, twelve million signing bonus, twenty
million guaranteed. So let's say this injury is really really serious,
he would say he couldn't continue for some reason. He's
going to make thirty four million dollars in his career,
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including this year's salary, which is completely guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, and that's a competitive division. You know.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I do like the Ravens a lot. I think the
Ravens are a Super Bowl contender, and you know, let's
see what the Bengals are able to do.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Now zero to two.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
The Browns with that performance and then losing Nick Chubb,
the Steelers are good and you know, I just this
is one of those divisions where I think anybody can
win it. And we're probably going to see that sort
of maneuvering throughout the season. Somebody's going to be in first,
somebody's gonna be in second, somebody's gonna be in last,
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and you know it could be flip flopped by the
end of the year.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
Yeah, Nick Chubb is going to make in his whole
career what Jared Goff is making this season.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:21):
Slightly less than that is Ryan Tannehill this season, and
he'll making his whole career.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yep.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
Ryan Tannehill's getting like almost thirty million this year.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah. It's the position.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And I know everybody says all they need guaranteed contracts.
This is why they don't get guaranteed contracts, because of
the position that they play. If you say this guy's
going to have the ball this many times during a
game twenty five times, well twenty five times, there's eleven
guys who want to tackle him. You know, a quarterback
has protection. Running Backs they run and sometimes they're running
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and it's just them. So when you think of it,
you know, receivers don't get nobody has this where you're
exposed like this and we're seeing this, you know, Saquon Barklay,
that was just like a simple play and a tackle
and then he hurts his ankle. Josh Jacob's minus two yards.
Now you have Nick Chubb, and then what happens is
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you get somebody who comes in to replace them. And
you saw that last night Jerome Ford, who and he's
making the league minimum and he looked really good. You
can find it, Marvin always says, it's like finding the
guy who can shoot threes in play D like a
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three and D guy. You can find those guys. There's
a lot of those guys floating around. You can bring
one in. That's what the running back position is. It's like, yeah,
he's out, all right, we'll find somebody and then you
normally do yeah, pull.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
There's no worst weekend for the cause of NFL running backs.
And what just happened in the past two days. Barkley, they
get m raise, he's out, Nick Chubb, he gets the
big deal for a running back. He got a big deal,
and he's out his running back is the backup guy
runs for six and a half yards of carry and
it's not gonna get better, probably get worse.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And I hate you know, nobody likes to see that.
Even if you're a Steeler fan, you don't like staying
something like that. And you know, I don't know if
it was a dirty hit or not. I know that
they spent a lot of time talking about the injury.
They didn't show the injury again. And I want to
talk about that because I've been in these situations before,
when I've been on Sports Center where you have to say, hey,
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I want to give you a heads up. Jason Kendall
of the Pirates, I remember he broke his ankle trying
to beat out an infield hit with the Pirates, and
you know, so we have the highlights and then you
got to, you know, make an educated decision where you're
trying to protect the people who are watching this. I
remember Jason Kendall was upset at sports because we did
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show it. I remember having a conversation with him and
he was disappointed that, you know, we showed that there
are certain injuries a Louisville basketball player. It was that
Kevin ware and you know gruesome injury in the tournament,
broke his leg and Willis mcgahey, I was there for
that injury. He blew out his knee. You just you
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see these moments and then you want to know, can
I can I show it? How do we show it?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Do?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I give you the disclaimer there, But it's there's a
difference I guess in sports journalism journalism and then news journalism.
I mean, I'm I signed more with the news journalism
of I'm going to show you this. It can be
disturbing here, but you know we're here to chronicle this,
We're here to talk about this. You try not to
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make it, you know, salacious here and hey, let's show
it again. At this angle, I think you have to
be fair to the story that you're going to show
it once.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yes, Ton, and you can.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Protect yourself, I guess a little bit by saying, you know,
for those of you week of heart or of a
queasy stomach, you know we're going to have to show
you something. You may want to look away, but that
certainly doesn't help at a sports bar where you're not
going to hear that, and you're going to show it,
and all of sudden you're gonna see something you may
not want to see.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, take a break. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We'll settle on a poll question, the man who did
the profile on Deon Sanders On sixty minutes, the reporter
correspondent John Werthheim will join us coming up next hour.
Would they have run that story on Dion if Colorado
had lost to Colorado State?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
That's one of my big questions for John.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
So Steelers win, Saints win, Michigan State is looking for
a new college football coach. We'll talk about some of
the baseball playoff runs, the Reds and Diamondbacks making late
playoff runs as well, the Colorado State player who had
the hit, when Travis Hunter receives death threats, and sa
Quon Barkley out for looks like three weeks. So a
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Pull question Seaton before we dive into the Nick Chubb injury.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Well, we could go with dueling Monday night football gam
twice the fun or water down duds.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, the game, you know, Carolina against New Orleans wasn't
a good game.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
That didn't help.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And that's one of those Oh by the ways, I'm
flipping through and I go it said NFL football on
the mother Ship, and I go, oh, oh, that's right, doubleheader,
and then I clicked on it. The first thing I
see is the Steelers celebrating with a pick six. So
I just tuned in as they're celebrating the pick six
to start the game. I don't think I don't think
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you'd find anybody who doesn't like it, because we love
more football. I guess we could look at the start
time for this that you had, you know, seven fifteen,
and then the other one started an hour later. Do
I like that better than seven fifteen, ten fifteen.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. See.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
The only thing I don't like about it is that
I found myself I started watching one game and I
was like, Ah, this game's boring, I'll flip over to
the other one, and then I was like, Eh, this
one's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I didn't think either of them were necessarily great games,
which to me just makes it feel like if there
had only been one game, they probably would have put
a better matchup well in primetime rather than these two
like okayish ones.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, for years, ESPN always got a bad Monday night
schedule that the NFL would take care of Sunday night
football first, then probably Fox the late afternoon game, and
then CBS, and then leftovers went to the Mothership. But
I think I think ESPN spends more money than anybody
on football with their deal, and they got a better schedule.
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I just think having two and neither one of them
really stood out. I mean, there was action, there was
drama with the Browns and the Steelers, the Saints and
the Panthers just wasn't a fun game. Yeah, Pauline, I
like it a lot.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
I like the option because if if there was one
game last night, that other game would have been a
one o'clock Eastern Sunday game and you would have seen
nothing of it.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
You saw some red zone highlights. This gave you the option.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
What if Steelers Browns was a complete dog, you can
go the other way. You're gonna get more eyeballs on games.
I would stagger them out a little more. Maybe make
one a little more East coast, one a little bit
more West coast, like a seven thirty start, nine thirty start.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Distance it a little more.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yes, Ton, I don't love it.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I think one game Sunday night, one game Monday night's
more than enough. If it's a dud, it's a dud.
I don't I'm already going back and forth like crazy
with red zones and stuff all day Sunday, on Sunday
night and Monday night. I'd rather just focus on the
one game I don't need.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So if I just said you had the Panthers in
the Saints, it is fine.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I wouldn't love it, but I would be okay with
that I don't want to have multiple games. I have
that all day Sunday, and then I just want to
kind of heez into the West couple.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Of what a burden you have to flip around? I
want to do. The red zone.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Takes away the excitement of Monday night football. Monday night football.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
No, no, Monday night football is long gone. That's long gone.
I'm sorry your childhood, that's a long gone.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
See, I feel like if if there was only one game,
the one game wouldn't have been Panther Saints. That would
have been at one o'clock. There would have been a
better matchup. It would have been like forty nine ers
Rams or something.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Now I don't think so. Not in accordance to what
I've been told. ESPN used to have a lot of
these Monday night games that weren't, you know, big matchups.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's true they had matchups a history of.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, now, if you said this was Sunday night football,
then I would say, no, that's not normal.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
They wouldn't have Carolina against the Saints.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But ESPN has had a history of having these kind
of games to get and screwed yes for all that money,
and then it was Thursday night that had would have
had Carolina against the Saints. Now Thursday got a little
bit better. So you're having standalone game. If you're the NFL,
you want to have a standalone game, and there's a
(23:51):
reason why you have a standalone game. We got another
doubleheader coming up next Monday Night on the mother Ship. Yeah, Paul, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
The next Monday, the early game is Eagles at Box
surprisingly two and Oh Bucks as they will tease and
the Rams, who are saucy against the Bengals, must win
for Bengals.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, may not have Joe Burrow though for that game
that's in Cincinnati. Mm.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, I'm Marv.
Speaker 10 (24:15):
The early seven to fifteen games, those are feeling like
Thursday Night games, okay, where it's like, oh, well wait,
it's only Titans play the Panthers again.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Don't they play like five times a year Thursday Night? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Yes, And I know there's time zones involved in stuff,
But if i'm their early game, I kind of feel
like the appetizer, like I'm the lead, the lead into
the more interesting game, which it was yesterday. Most people,
I don't care who you're a fan of. Steele as
Browns is the marquee game and we'll sprinkle in this
first and then you'll flip over to them.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, but if you're playing, do you really care? Like
I'm where the JV were the warm up backed Like
you're still more people were going to see you last
night than they would have seen you on Sunday at
one o'clock. Now you may not want them to see you,
So then you have an opinion. We have more of
an opinion of the Saints and the Panthers today then
we would have one o'clock on a Sunday.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
Yes, Mark, last night the Saints Panthers, that's the Dennis
Green game. They are who we thought they were boring
and terrible.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But I think the Saints have a chance to be,
you know, win the division, host a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
The NFC South. Yeah you didn't say.
Speaker 10 (25:23):
You said it like it was the AFC North.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
They have a chance of with a division.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Teams. Yeah, how about that, Marvin? Yeah take that?
Speaker 11 (25:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Think And what's seven out of the day.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Out of the day, brought to.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You by a Panaanium America.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Yes, yes, but if I'm a Saints fan, this is
about as good as I felt since Drew Brees broke
his ribs. Remember they were searching for quarterbacks and they're
trying Simeon and Taysom.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Hell, they feel good about this.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
If I'm a Saints fan, I'm feeling real good today
because they're you were kind of irrelevant in the offseason.
We talked about some teams that don't have a lot
of buzz. They didn't have any off season buzz, even
getting Car that defense is good, and Car is good ish,
occasionally good, all of occasionally good.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Trying to put on it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, hey, we got to see Taysom Hill last night. Yes, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Have a Taysom Hill game later.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh wow, it's it's that good. Okay, yes, tod.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
If I'm the Saints and the Falcons keep wearing those
awesome red helmets, I am worried in the NFC South,
who's going to win that division?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh now you're jumping on my Falcons bend way.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
But the helmet alone, those little mini helmet days, and
you put the quarter in the.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Machine once again, your childhood days. Let it go, Falcons,
let it go.
Speaker 10 (26:31):
Yes, Marv and the Falcons have somebody you can put
on the marquee is a.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Star, Yes he is.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
There's a difference between like there's good players, and then
there's good and star players. He might be on that
level of he's a good player, but he's also a
star like Early Odell.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, but not playing in a media market. You know,
that's Saquon Barkley is v Jon Robinson and you know,
being able to play in the New York market. Bjeon's
a wonderful talent and the first player that I've watched
who has moves that were Barry Sanders like that. You
just say, how does the body go that way? He's
(27:09):
strong and you know, physical runner. It's just you watch
these running backs, you just you hope that they're able
to play and play for a long time without serious injury.
It just that goes along with the territory there. And
you saw that with Nick Chubb last night. Maybe you
didn't see it with Nick Chubb because the injury, the
(27:31):
camera angle is kind of shielded because you can't really
see what happened. But what happens is you'll have your
director and producer who will be in the truck and
they have all these monitors. They probably went, oh that,
you know, telling Joe buck in his ear, Oh, it's
really bad. That's usually what happens somebody will give you
(27:54):
a heads up because Joe's calling the action and he's
watching the monitor, or maybe he's just watching the play
and maybe he can't see it and we can't. You know,
We're looking at and go okay, and then all of
a sudden, he's like grabbing his knee. And then they
talked about, you know, the severity of it, and then
we realized, now you have to show it again to
(28:15):
at least put it in context of what happened there.
They decided that they weren't going to do it. I
would have done it. I would have done it once
because you know, you're you're carrying the game, and I
think you owe it to the audience and you could
do a disclaimer and look, I might be in the
(28:36):
minority here, but I if I was running the show,
I'd say, right, you know, Joe, give them a disclaimer.
We're going to show this, just let them know that
this is a gruesome injury, and you show it once
and even say, look, we're going to show it once.
That's all we're going to show. We hope to get
a you know, an update on his injury at some
point throughout the game.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What would you've done Todd.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
I agree with what you just said. You give them
you don't have to play it multiple times. You give people,
the people that are watching a chance to turn away,
and you show it the one time and that's the
end of it. But that's exactly how it should be.
Speaker 11 (29:11):
Endling.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
What about you see when did it become the norm
that you don't show them. I forget who it was now,
but somebody broke their arm in the end zone once
and it was like showing a couple of times and
they're like, I gotta stop showing that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
There was an injury in the Super Bowl the Bengals
and the Niners, Tim Crumbrae and they had a terrible
turf in Miami that led to that injury, and they
showed it. Uh, you know when Kevin Ware of Louisville,
they showed it above shot the Jason Kendall broke an
(29:59):
ankle at first, Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
One That stands out to me where they showed it,
but they really tried not to do. You remember when
Gordon Hayward broke his leg with the Celtics. I happen
to be watching that game. It wasn't a national game.
As a local game, and they are like, oh, they
were very cringey. They showed a top shot almost like
a overhead camera angle, like a jibcam, high up so
you could see the play, see what caused the injury,
but you couldn't see really close.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
They kind of watered it down.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
I guess you could say, what about you, Marvin, Yeah,
I would have given a disclaimer, just showed it once
and maybe, like Paulie said, maybe an overhead angle, maybe
a far away angle, but I'm not sure about that
close up. But I would have.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Paulie, what would you have done?
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Yeah, I think you have to show it. Definitely a disclaimer.
This is not pleasant, not that good, but you know
there might be a story here. This is a star
running back on an interesting team.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Who was he hit low? Was it a cheap shot?
Speaker 8 (30:53):
The people at home have to decide what happened on
that play. You definitely give a disclaimer in case of
his kids watching, if you can give a couple second
rack it up once and then it's the choice of
the viewer, and then you were telling the full story.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah. I probably leaned towards that way.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And you know, you have to make these decisions in
the moment, we you know, I have the benefit of
twelve hours here that or whatever it is that I
can go. Well, I don't in the moment. You're the director,
you're the producer. You probably have your boss who's running
the network, who's going to be involved in this as well.
But I think you have to show it once and
(31:30):
if you can do it, you know, you don't do
a slow motion, don't you know, do a spot shadow,
don't do any diagram. You know, just here is the
injury from another angle here and this is the same
need that is surgically repaired with Nick Chubb, and then
you move on from that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, see that Kevin ware injury was ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, yeah, Well, Joe Eisman, when that happened, you realize
right away. You know how I realized right away, and
I was at the game, was Lawrence Taylor's reaction. So
here's the baddest dude on the planet playing football and
all of a sudden, he's like he's got his hands
(32:12):
up by his helmet and he's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And you know we've talked to.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Joe th Eisman about this, and Joe, you know, the
body goes into shock. So I don't know if Joe
was in pain when his leg was broken. I'm sure
it was painful, I should say, but your body goes
into shock, and that probably happened to him where it's like, Okay,
I know I'm in trouble here, and then they're going
to get you off the field and then they're going
(32:38):
to try to numb that up. But I remember Lawrence
Taylor's reaction because as I've been told that you could
hear it, you could hear it break, and I think
that's what LT was reacting to, is, oh my god,
he just ended Joe Eisman's career.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Uh, I was just watching on one of the websites
that actual play, and they did show at least once
the reverse angle. Well you see his leg kind of
get mangled and stuck underneath. I don't know how many
more times they showed it after that. Yeah, they did
show a slow motion reverse angle.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, sometimes if you show it from Afar, but I
would have shown it. Napoleon McCallum, remember when he blew
out his knee with the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
That was a Monday night game.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes, we've had those, but I think you just have
to be sensitive, that's all. And what I was told
one time by a news director is you want to
show your audience, but you also have to factor in
that person who just got injured their family watching this
as well. And it always stayed in the back of
(33:41):
my mind if you ever had something like this where
it's like, oh my god, well, imagine if that's your
husband or that's your son, that's your brother, and you're
watching that kind of injury and just being sensitive to that.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Who was the.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Picture left handed pitcher who broke his heart because armed? Yeah,
Dave Dreveki and I, you know, you watched it and
you saw the ball just kind of drop and then
you realized that something really bad happened and he broke
his arm on a pitch and uh, you know we
(34:17):
talked to him about that as well. He joined us
and I don't know what year that was, but I
remember that he said, it just popped, and uh he
realized that, you know, it had broken. Something that doesn't
happen but it did to uh Dave. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Going back to last night, I was watching, and I
was more surprised that they didn't show the Nick Chubb
replay than if they would have, because, like I said,
usually they show one, or it was a disclaimer or
maybe a distant angle. Do you think it's the social
media era where they were concerned and real time about
the outpouring of criticism by showing that injury. That's what
I thought when I thought about it for a couple minutes, like, wow,
(34:54):
that's that's surprising day. They didn't show it because networks
usually do, But I think that maybe the chilling effect
has gotten into the booth.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well. Also, you can show it once, but social media
is going to show it forever.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
Even on social media though you get criticized if you
post the injury. You're not even supposed to post it
on social media, or you'll get back last year.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
All right, let me take a break here. We'll get
phone calls and our play of the day is up.
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Speaker 5 (37:26):
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Speaker 1 (37:31):
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Speaker 2 (37:54):
Courtesy of the Steelers Radio Network. I like Heismith was
all over the field last night, TJ Watt he finally
scores a touchdown. He ranks third in his family in touchdowns. Yeah,
JJ was six, Derek with three, and TJ with his first.
He leads the NFL and forced fumbles since coming into
(38:15):
the league in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Is t J Watt already a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
He's got I think seventy five sacks if you put
in the forced fumbles in there, like, I don't know
what the line is now, the line of demarcation where
you go?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Okay, now you're a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, Pauline, So he's twenty nine years old.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
He's played. This is season number seven. Out of his
six seasons, he's been All Pro five times, First Team
All Pro, I'm sorry, Pro Bowl five times, First Team
All Pro three times. Right on a cuss, Let's say
there was a career ending injury or something. He'd probably
get the Hall Pass for the injury because of the injury.
But you end up with one hundred sacks, you're on
(38:59):
your way.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Rank.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
How many guys have one hundred sacks who aren't in
the Hall of Fame and they're eligible. I'd be curious.
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Speaker 8 (39:17):
Yes, Paul, I've got the all time sack leaders. What
there's a lot of guys over one hundred. A couple
of names that aren't in the Hall of Fame. Jason
Taylor is he and ye, yeah, he's in.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
He dig it in. Okay, Yeah, Therell Suggs, he's on
his way.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
He'll be in.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
De Marcus Ware is on his way.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
He got in.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
We dig it in.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, this past.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Year, here's one one hundred and thirty three sacks. John
Abraham not a household name.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
He's not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
He retired in fourteen, five time Pro bowler, two time
All Pro, did it for a few different.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Teams, mostly Atlanta, didn't he.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Yeah, never let the league in sacks, but he had
a bunch of like twelve sacks.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Okay, okay, he's kind of a compiling piler.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, as they say, compiling sacks.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
Another one, Leslie O'Neill one hundred and thirty two sacks.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
And if he didn't get in already. He's probably not
gonna has No.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
He was a big deal for the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yes, you know, because the Chargers always had great offense.
We just didn't know if they had enough defense. And
Leslie O'Neill was say he was a great player, he
was a weapon.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
A couple more guys who were over won twenty sacks.
Remember Clyde Simmons for Philadelphia, Yeah, one twenty one, Simeon.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Rice one in Tampa Bay one twenty two.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
And they're not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah it might not. Yeah, they've been out for a while,
those guys.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, Well, have the Veterans Committee, I think, and then
they put in six every year, at least six candidates
go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Uh let's see. Oh,
do we have the all purpose game? All purpose player game?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Okay, yeah, this is based off we have the all
purpose football music.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Purpose.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Taysom Hill had a completion, ran the ball, and caught
a pass last night.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Okay, so threw a pass, caught a pass and had
at least one carriage.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, and the pass had to be complete, not just
in the tent.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Okay, and not to himself, right, because there have been quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Who have thrown and actually cant throned the.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Pass since in the Super Bowl era, since nineteen sixty seven,
what players have.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
The motion that's correct?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Thank you good night.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Now that's actually not the correct anthem. It's kind of
the critics. Which players have the most games of that
ILK where they threw a pass that was complete, caught
one and ran one.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
The leader in the clubhouse has fifteen such games.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Gail says, Taysom.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
Hill at fifteen. He's winning the Taysom Hill Okay, now
he now that to be fired him. He's playing quarterback, specifically.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Number two all time, Walter Payton.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
Walter Payton is correct with nine damn in putting eight
touchdown passes.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
He's incredible.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
I should have played quarterback as well. I'm gonna see
if anyone can name anyone in the top five. They're
all they all played.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Uh wait, I thought we did a couple more.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
I want to get Emma Smith.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
No, yeah, I don't think they wanted him to throw
the football.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
One's a wide receiver, the other two are running backs.
The other one's a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Is Wes Chandler.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
No, but that's a good guess. I think he's got four.
That's a good guess. I'm giving that to you, Okay,
Cordell Stewart, No, I give.
Speaker 11 (42:37):
You a hit.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
He played most of his career for the Steelers, with
a bulk of his career. Name is hyphenated oh Antoine
Randall l This player was fantastic in college. Fantastic for
your first few years. Then for some reason team stopped
using him and he his career kind of went to
(42:58):
Kansas City. Marcus Allen eight games completions caught one think.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
He was a high school quarterback, then he was a
full back in college, and then became a tailback and
then became a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Two more. This is running back, a friend of the.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Show, Friend of the show, running back West Coast through
a lot of passes. Christian McCaffrey, La Danian Tomlin, Danian Tomlinson.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Okay, now here's the curveball.
Speaker 8 (43:29):
There's a quarterback who, of course threw passes and ran
the ball, but he made had seven receptions in his career.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
This is nuts. Not who you expect.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Bobby Douglas.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
No, he just retired a couple years ago.
Speaker 8 (43:43):
This player, and he's been mentioned on Today's show for
having broken ribs.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yes, man Drew Brees's career.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Drew Brees is seven catches in his career. How about that?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Talk back to you.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That's the all pro player game. That's the Taysom Hill Gap.
Here's what it's called.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Factionally.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
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the official trading cards of this program. The NFL off
season was filled with a lot of questions around the
running back position, and rightfully so. There was this crusade
campaign they need to get paid, they need to have
guaranteed contracts. Well after week two of the regular season,
there's a cause for a concern that the running back
(01:44):
position is exactly what we thought it was going to be.
Saquon Barkley, he fought tooth and nail to get that
one year, ten million dollar contract. He's played well, injured
his ankle, probably going to be out for three weeks.
Josh Jacobs similar position. He wanted to get paid, got paid.
He had negative two yards rushing this last weekend, and
(02:05):
then last night Nick Chubb carted off the field after
that scary knee injury. Meanwhile, you have a career long
backup in Raheem Mostert. He had over one hundred and
twenty yards and two touchdowns for the Dolphins on Sunday
against the Patriots, and Mostert is paid one point two
million dollars this season. So while the running back position
(02:26):
may seem appealing, this season's results are certainly a cautionary
tale for the NFL's front office. And you hate to
see that with any position, but these running backs, the
better they are, the more likely they're not going to
get paid, because the logic is, well, you rush for
fifteen hundred yards, that's a lot of abuse on your body.
(02:47):
We don't do that with any other position, but we
do that with the running back position. Since coming into
the league in twenty eighteen, Nick Chubb has rushed for
sixty five hundred yards, second most to Derrick Henry forty
eight touchdowns, second most to Derrick Henry. Chubb averages two
point seven yards per carry after con contact, the most
(03:10):
by any player with at least two hundred carries since
twenty eighteen. And no, no, it's okay, you can wasn't
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is going to be done. We don't know if it's
season ending injury he's had, you know, surgically repaired knee
that he injured again last night in the loss by
the Cleveland Browns to the Steelers. Also the Saints over
the Panthers. That was a tough watch. I was trying
(03:56):
to get excited about that, like, oh to NFC South
teams getting together, throw out the records, and I started watching.
I go, I don't know if Derek Carr is good.
I think he can be good, but I don't know
if he can be consistently good. And I'm watching. I'm
just waiting for something to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Here. Bryce Young, he's.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
A rookie, he looked like it, and he's going to
be running for his life just is I don't know
how good he is. And it goes back to what
I've said about these quarterbacks. Where you get drafted can
be a great indicator of how successful you're going to be.
The higher up, the longer it's going to take its
(04:38):
Sometimes when you fall in the draft. Now you look
back on the history of the draft, there are guys
who fell for whatever reason, they fell, but they had
a better chance to be successful because they were going
to a better team. Bryce Young is on a team
that's not good. Justin Fields is on a team that's
not very good. You're asked to more. They expect you
(05:01):
to do more and do it quicker. And Bryce Young
is going to face that this year. Here's his head coach,
Frank Wright, talking about his rookie quarterbacks performance.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I can tell you this. It's certainly you know our
struggle on offense. It's not one person. Again, we'll look
at the film, but you know, I thought Bryce still
did some really positive things. Made made some plays with
his feet, made some good decisions, made good throws, showed
plenty of things that we want to see. So it
was encouraged by that. I know how hard it is
to play that position. I've been around it a long time,
(05:36):
and I know how dependent it is on everything. So
we all got to get better. Everybody's got better coaches
and players. So that's the way we work through it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean it's going to be a long year
and Bryce Young, it's a learning year. You just have
to be patient, and you know your expectation level has
to be lowered a little bit and his might have
to be lowered a little bit, but he does have
some qualities there that you hope that he's able and
he runs smart, uh you know, go out of bounds,
his slide and he's slight. He is very slight, but
(06:10):
you know, got a great football acumen and maybe they
get some weapons in there. I mean, they gave up
their best weapon to get the opportunity to take Bryce
Young back to the Cleveland Browns. With the injury to
Nick Chubb. Here is head coach Kevin Stefanski of the brownst.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Network that it has suffered multiple.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Torn ligaments in I can't without imaging, I can't say
so significant the injury.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I do, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I Adam Schefter put out a report, but it was
it should have been flipped because when he first put
out the report about the injury, he mentioned Nick Chubb
had had this knee surgically repaired. I think a c
l M C L PCL and you would have thought
from his tweet that that's what he suffered last night,
and you know it should have been just you know,
(07:05):
serious injury or could be a season ending whatever it
might be. And then you could say that he also
suffered these injuries to that same knee, but it was
not it was poorly designed. That tweet Deshaun Watson didn't
look good. He did talk about the value of Nick Chubb.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I know he don't have a seat on his on
his jersey, but you know, he's a captain, he's a
he's a leader, he's the definition of this of this team,
of this city, of this organization. And you know, we
had a lot of holes of Phil you know why
he's why he's away. So I mean it's even tough
to even speak on it, and just hopefully he you know,
(07:47):
we get the best outcome for him.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now, there was a pick six that's not on Watson
unless you say he threw the ball a little too
hard the opening play, but a couple of penalties on him,
the one where he had his hand and in the
face mask of a Steeler defender almost looked like his
hand was caught in there and he couldn't get it out.
The officials saw it and flagged him. But it wasn't
a good performance. He got a Hall passed last year
(08:12):
with Cleveland because we thought, okay, everything that's gone on
going to a new team, trying to get acclimated there,
so I think that the analyst sort of backed away
from him. Now let's see him have a full camp,
maybe move on from all the drama. And he has
not had a good start, so you know, you're no
longer on scholarship from the standpoint of, yeah, you know,
(08:35):
let's give him a little bit of time. He was
a really good quarterback with the Texans. He was a
really good quarterback for a bad team and they had
to guarantee all of his money because he didn't want
to go to Cleveland, and they guaranteed all of his money.
And now you're stuck with him. And I don't know
if it was me, he didn't feel he just seemed
(08:56):
very hesitant. You know, he didn't really commit to running.
And I don't remember being him being a great runner,
not not the way quarterbacks are now great runners, but
he's not elusive, and he just seemed like cautious. And
now without Nick Chubb, now they're going to rely on
you even more. And you saw that last night. Not
(09:19):
a good performance. Can he Pickett? He's he's he has
has moments, but at that position, you can't just have movements.
You have to have more moments that are really good
than those moments where you go, oh my god, what happened? There?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Not great numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The Steeler defense bailed him out, but he's got weapons.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
There, so and I do like the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I'm high on the Steelers, not as much on the
Browns and the Bengals. With the Joe Burrows situation, they're
probably going to have to rest him for a couple
of weeks to ensure that they have him for three
quarters of the season. You got a game with the
Rams coming up on Monday night, and I don't think
(10:10):
Joe Burrow is going to be playing because you have
to look at this.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
This is long term, this is bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You don't want to have an achilles injury here, obviously,
but this is where it starts with some athletes the
calf and then it becomes the achilles. So let's a
preemptive strike with this. Sit him down for a couple
of weeks and hopefully he responds to treatment and then
you get him back. But you just there's no need
(10:35):
to have him out there on one leg, giving us
the old football try because you have too much invested
in him. So watching last night, certainly the chub injury
who's one of my favorite players. He just fifteen hundred yards,
doesn't say much, not a self promoter at all, just
plays good football. I mean, Sony Michelle was thought to
(10:57):
be a better running back coming out of college. Nick
Chubb is just like, all right, yeah, he's pretty good. No,
he's really good. No, he's as good as any running
back in football. And that's a huge loss for the Browns. Now,
he got a second contract, and I don't know. Is
he two years into that second contract?
Speaker 8 (11:15):
PAULI, Yeah, he signed because remembery, he did get second
round money, not a ton of money coming out of college.
He signed a three year, thirty six million dollar deal
a couple of years ago, twelve million signing bonus, twenty
million guaranteed. So let's say this injury is really really serious,
he would say he couldn't continue for some reason. He's
going to make thirty four million dollars in his career,
(11:36):
including this year's salary, which is completely guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, and that's a competitive division. You know.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I do like the Ravens a lot. I think the
Ravens are a Super Bowl contender, and you know, let's
see what the Bengals are able to do.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Now zero to two.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
The Browns with that performance and then losing Nick Chubb,
the Steelers are good and you know, I just this
is one of those divisions where I think anybody can
win it. And we're probably going to see that sort
of maneuvering throughout the season. Somebody's going to be in first,
somebody's gonna be in second, somebody's gonna be in last,
(12:11):
and you know it could be flip flopped by the
end of the year.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
Yeah, Nick Chubb is going to make in his whole
career what Jared Goff is making this season.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:21):
Slightly less than that is Ryan Tannehill this season, and
he'll making his whole career.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yep.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
Ryan Tannehill's getting like almost thirty million this year.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah. It's the position.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And I know everybody says all they need guaranteed contracts.
This is why they don't get guaranteed contracts, because of
the position that they play. If you say this guy's
going to have the ball this many times during a
game twenty five times, well twenty five times, there's eleven
guys who want to tackle him. You know, a quarterback
has protection. Running Backs they run and sometimes they're running
(12:57):
and it's just them. So when you think of it,
you know, receivers don't get nobody has this where you're
exposed like this and we're seeing this, you know, Saquon Barklay,
that was just like a simple play and a tackle
and then he hurts his ankle. Josh Jacob's minus two yards.
Now you have Nick Chubb, and then what happens is
(13:19):
you get somebody who comes in to replace them. And
you saw that last night Jerome Ford, who and he's
making the league minimum and he looked really good. You
can find it, Marvin always says, it's like finding the
guy who can shoot threes in play D like a
(13:40):
three and D guy. You can find those guys. There's
a lot of those guys floating around. You can bring
one in. That's what the running back position is. It's like, yeah,
he's out, all right, we'll find somebody and then you
normally do yeah, pull.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
There's no worst weekend for the cause of NFL running backs.
And what just happened in the past two days. Barkley, they
get m raise, he's out, Nick Chubb, he gets the
big deal for a running back. He got a big deal,
and he's out his running back is the backup guy
runs for six and a half yards of carry and
it's not gonna get better, probably get worse.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And I hate you know, nobody likes to see that.
Even if you're a Steeler fan, you don't like staying
something like that. And you know, I don't know if
it was a dirty hit or not. I know that
they spent a lot of time talking about the injury.
They didn't show the injury again. And I want to
talk about that because I've been in these situations before,
when I've been on Sports Center where you have to say, hey,
(14:38):
I want to give you a heads up. Jason Kendall
of the Pirates, I remember he broke his ankle trying
to beat out an infield hit with the Pirates, and
you know, so we have the highlights and then you
got to, you know, make an educated decision where you're
trying to protect the people who are watching this. I
remember Jason Kendall was upset at sports because we did
(15:00):
show it. I remember having a conversation with him and
he was disappointed that, you know, we showed that there
are certain injuries a Louisville basketball player. It was that
Kevin ware and you know gruesome injury in the tournament,
broke his leg and Willis mcgahey, I was there for
that injury. He blew out his knee. You just you
(15:23):
see these moments and then you want to know, can
I can I show it? How do we show it?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Do?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I give you the disclaimer there, But it's there's a
difference I guess in sports journalism journalism and then news journalism.
I mean, I'm I signed more with the news journalism
of I'm going to show you this. It can be
disturbing here, but you know we're here to chronicle this,
We're here to talk about this. You try not to
(15:49):
make it, you know, salacious here and hey, let's show
it again. At this angle, I think you have to
be fair to the story that you're going to show
it once.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yes, Ton, and you can.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Protect yourself, I guess a little bit by saying, you know,
for those of you week of heart or of a
queasy stomach, you know we're going to have to show
you something. You may want to look away, but that
certainly doesn't help at a sports bar where you're not
going to hear that, and you're going to show it,
and all of sudden you're gonna see something you may
not want to see.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, take a break. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We'll settle on a poll question, the man who did
the profile on Deon Sanders On sixty minutes, the reporter
correspondent John Werthheim will join us coming up next hour.
Would they have run that story on Dion if Colorado
had lost to Colorado State?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
That's one of my big questions for John.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
So Steelers win, Saints win, Michigan State is looking for
a new college football coach. We'll talk about some of
the baseball playoff runs, the Reds and Diamondbacks making late
playoff runs as well, the Colorado State player who had
the hit, when Travis Hunter receives death threats, and sa
Quon Barkley out for looks like three weeks. So a
(16:56):
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Speaker 9 (18:47):
Do we have a target date for Moonshine extremely soon?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Is that what it is? Yes?
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Extremely, extremely very soon.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Okay, because I wanted to have it for the fall.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, so if you went tailgating, we upping the amount
that we're able to sell.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
Yeah, especially for the holidays. Okay, for the holidays, we're
gonna have a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Wow. Good because I heard from people who have said, look,
I'd love to try it. I just can't get in
there in time because the Moonshine sells out in fifteen minutes.
But we are trying to double the amount that we
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Speaker 8 (19:20):
Yes, that's convenient because I drink a lot during the holiday.
Oh you do, having a lot with you.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
This is just screaming out. Put a little of this moonshine,
the maple pumpkin in your coffee. You start out like
a tailgate morning awesome coffee hammer. Yes, yes, then so
I'm going to say, oh, what are you drinking? Just coffee?
But you got your moonshine in there, just a little
splash there. All right, we'll get phone calls coming up.
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Pull question Seaton before we dive into the Nick Chubb injury.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Well, we could go with dueling Monday night football gam
twice the fun or water down duds.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, the game, you know, Carolina against New Orleans wasn't
a good game.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
That didn't help.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And that's one of those Oh by the ways, I'm
flipping through and I go it said NFL football on
the mother Ship, and I go, oh, oh, that's right, doubleheader,
and then I clicked on it. The first thing I
see is the Steelers celebrating with a pick six. So
I just tuned in as they're celebrating the pick six
to start the game. I don't think I don't think
(20:30):
you'd find anybody who doesn't like it, because we love
more football. I guess we could look at the start
time for this that you had, you know, seven fifteen,
and then the other one started an hour later. Do
I like that better than seven fifteen, ten fifteen.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. See.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
The only thing I don't like about it is that
I found myself I started watching one game and I
was like, Ah, this game's boring, I'll flip over to
the other one, and then I was like, Eh, this
one's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I didn't think either of them were necessarily great games,
which to me just makes it feel like if there
had only been one game, they probably would have put
a better matchup well in primetime rather than these two
like okayish ones.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, for years, ESPN always got a bad Monday night
schedule that the NFL would take care of Sunday night
football first, then probably Fox the late afternoon game, and
then CBS, and then leftovers went to the Mothership. But
I think I think ESPN spends more money than anybody
on football with their deal, and they got a better schedule.
(21:36):
I just think having two and neither one of them
really stood out. I mean, there was action, there was
drama with the Browns and the Steelers, the Saints and
the Panthers just wasn't a fun game. Yeah, Pauline, I
like it a lot.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
I like the option because if if there was one
game last night, that other game would have been a
one o'clock Eastern Sunday game and you would have seen
nothing of it.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
You saw some red zone highlights. This gave you the option.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
What if Steelers Browns was a complete dog, you can
go the other way. You're gonna get more eyeballs on games.
I would stagger them out a little more. Maybe make
one a little more East coast, one a little bit
more West coast, like a seven thirty start, nine thirty start.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Distance it a little more.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yes, Ton, I don't love it.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I think one game Sunday night, one game Monday night's
more than enough. If it's a dud, it's a dud.
I don't I'm already going back and forth like crazy
with red zones and stuff all day Sunday, on Sunday
night and Monday night. I'd rather just focus on the
one game I don't need.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So if I just said you had the Panthers in
the Saints, it is fine.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I wouldn't love it, but I would be okay with
that I don't want to have multiple games. I have
that all day Sunday, and then I just want to
kind of heez into the West couple.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Of what a burden you have to flip around? I
want to do. The red zone.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Takes away the excitement of Monday night football. Monday night football.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
No, no, Monday night football is long gone. That's long gone.
I'm sorry your childhood, that's a long gone.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
See, I feel like if if there was only one game,
the one game wouldn't have been Panther Saints. That would
have been at one o'clock. There would have been a
better matchup. It would have been like forty nine ers
Rams or something.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Now I don't think so. Not in accordance to what
I've been told. ESPN used to have a lot of
these Monday night games that weren't, you know, big matchups.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It's true they had matchups a history of.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, now, if you said this was Sunday night football,
then I would say, no, that's not normal.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
They wouldn't have Carolina against the Saints.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But ESPN has had a history of having these kind
of games to get and screwed yes for all that money,
and then it was Thursday night that had would have
had Carolina against the Saints. Now Thursday got a little
bit better. So you're having standalone game. If you're the NFL,
you want to have a standalone game, and there's a
(23:51):
reason why you have a standalone game. We got another
doubleheader coming up next Monday Night on the mother Ship. Yeah, Paul, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
The next Monday, the early game is Eagles at Box
surprisingly two and Oh Bucks as they will tease and
the Rams, who are saucy against the Bengals, must win
for Bengals.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, may not have Joe Burrow though for that game
that's in Cincinnati. Mm.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, I'm Marv.
Speaker 10 (24:15):
The early seven to fifteen games, those are feeling like
Thursday Night games, okay, where it's like, oh, well wait,
it's only Titans play the Panthers again.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Don't they play like five times a year Thursday Night? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Yes, And I know there's time zones involved in stuff,
But if i'm their early game, I kind of feel
like the appetizer, like I'm the lead, the lead into
the more interesting game, which it was yesterday. Most people,
I don't care who you're a fan of. Steele as
Browns is the marquee game and we'll sprinkle in this
first and then you'll flip over to them.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, but if you're playing, do you really care? Like
I'm where the JV were the warm up backed Like
you're still more people were going to see you last
night than they would have seen you on Sunday at
one o'clock. Now you may not want them to see you,
So then you have an opinion. We have more of
an opinion of the Saints and the Panthers today then
we would have one o'clock on a Sunday.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
Yes, Mark, last night the Saints Panthers, that's the Dennis
Green game. They are who we thought they were boring
and terrible.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But I think the Saints have a chance to be,
you know, win the division, host a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
The NFC South. Yeah you didn't say.
Speaker 10 (25:23):
You said it like it was the AFC North.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
They have a chance of with a division.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Teams. Yeah, how about that, Marvin? Yeah take that?
Speaker 11 (25:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Think And what's seven out of the day.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Out of the day, brought to.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You by a Panaanium America.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Yes, yes, but if I'm a Saints fan, this is
about as good as I felt since Drew Brees broke
his ribs. Remember they were searching for quarterbacks and they're
trying Simeon and Taysom.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Hell, they feel good about this.
Speaker 8 (25:48):
If I'm a Saints fan, I'm feeling real good today
because they're you were kind of irrelevant in the offseason.
We talked about some teams that don't have a lot
of buzz. They didn't have any off season buzz, even
getting Car that defense is good, and Car is good ish,
occasionally good, all of occasionally good.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Trying to put on it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, hey, we got to see Taysom Hill last night. Yes, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Have a Taysom Hill game later.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh wow, it's it's that good. Okay, yes, tod.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
If I'm the Saints and the Falcons keep wearing those
awesome red helmets, I am worried in the NFC South,
who's going to win that division?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh now you're jumping on my Falcons bend way.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
But the helmet alone, those little mini helmet days, and
you put the quarter in the.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Machine once again, your childhood days. Let it go, Falcons,
let it go.
Speaker 10 (26:31):
Yes, Marv and the Falcons have somebody you can put
on the marquee is a.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Star, Yes he is.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
There's a difference between like there's good players, and then
there's good and star players. He might be on that
level of he's a good player, but he's also a
star like Early Odell.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, but not playing in a media market. You know,
that's Saquon Barkley is v Jon Robinson and you know,
being able to play in the New York market. Bjeon's
a wonderful talent and the first player that I've watched
who has moves that were Barry Sanders like that. You
just say, how does the body go that way? He's
(27:09):
strong and you know, physical runner. It's just you watch
these running backs, you just you hope that they're able
to play and play for a long time without serious injury.
It just that goes along with the territory there. And
you saw that with Nick Chubb last night. Maybe you
didn't see it with Nick Chubb because the injury, the
(27:31):
camera angle is kind of shielded because you can't really
see what happened. But what happens is you'll have your
director and producer who will be in the truck and
they have all these monitors. They probably went, oh that,
you know, telling Joe buck in his ear, Oh, it's
really bad. That's usually what happens somebody will give you
(27:54):
a heads up because Joe's calling the action and he's
watching the monitor, or maybe he's just watching the play
and maybe he can't see it and we can't. You know,
We're looking at and go okay, and then all of
a sudden, he's like grabbing his knee. And then they
talked about, you know, the severity of it, and then
we realized, now you have to show it again to
(28:15):
at least put it in context of what happened there.
They decided that they weren't going to do it. I
would have done it. I would have done it once
because you know, you're you're carrying the game, and I
think you owe it to the audience and you could
do a disclaimer and look, I might be in the
(28:36):
minority here, but I if I was running the show,
I'd say, right, you know, Joe, give them a disclaimer.
We're going to show this, just let them know that
this is a gruesome injury, and you show it once
and even say, look, we're going to show it once.
That's all we're going to show. We hope to get
a you know, an update on his injury at some
point throughout the game.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What would you've done Todd.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
I agree with what you just said. You give them
you don't have to play it multiple times. You give people,
the people that are watching a chance to turn away,
and you show it the one time and that's the
end of it. But that's exactly how it should be.
Speaker 11 (29:11):
Endling.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
What about you see when did it become the norm
that you don't show them. I forget who it was now,
but somebody broke their arm in the end zone once
and it was like showing a couple of times and
they're like, I gotta stop showing that.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
There was an injury in the Super Bowl the Bengals
and the Niners, Tim Crumbrae and they had a terrible
turf in Miami that led to that injury, and they
showed it. Uh, you know when Kevin Ware of Louisville,
they showed it above shot the Jason Kendall broke an
(29:59):
ankle at first, Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
One That stands out to me where they showed it,
but they really tried not to do. You remember when
Gordon Hayward broke his leg with the Celtics. I happen
to be watching that game. It wasn't a national game.
As a local game, and they are like, oh, they
were very cringey. They showed a top shot almost like
a overhead camera angle, like a jibcam, high up so
you could see the play, see what caused the injury,
but you couldn't see really close.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
They kind of watered it down.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
I guess you could say, what about you, Marvin, Yeah,
I would have given a disclaimer, just showed it once
and maybe, like Paulie said, maybe an overhead angle, maybe
a far away angle, but I'm not sure about that
close up. But I would have.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Paulie, what would you have done?
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Yeah, I think you have to show it. Definitely a disclaimer.
This is not pleasant, not that good, but you know
there might be a story here. This is a star
running back on an interesting team.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Who was he hit low? Was it a cheap shot?
Speaker 8 (30:53):
The people at home have to decide what happened on
that play. You definitely give a disclaimer in case of
his kids watching, if you can give a couple second
rack it up once and then it's the choice of
the viewer, and then you were telling the full story.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah. I probably leaned towards that way.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And you know, you have to make these decisions in
the moment, we you know, I have the benefit of
twelve hours here that or whatever it is that I
can go. Well, I don't in the moment. You're the director,
you're the producer. You probably have your boss who's running
the network, who's going to be involved in this as well.
But I think you have to show it once and
(31:30):
if you can do it, you know, you don't do
a slow motion, don't you know, do a spot shadow,
don't do any diagram. You know, just here is the
injury from another angle here and this is the same
need that is surgically repaired with Nick Chubb, and then
you move on from that.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, see that Kevin ware injury was ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, yeah, Well, Joe Eisman, when that happened, you realize
right away. You know how I realized right away, and
I was at the game, was Lawrence Taylor's reaction. So
here's the baddest dude on the planet playing football and
all of a sudden, he's like he's got his hands
(32:12):
up by his helmet and he's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And you know we've talked to.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Joe th Eisman about this, and Joe, you know, the
body goes into shock. So I don't know if Joe
was in pain when his leg was broken. I'm sure
it was painful, I should say, but your body goes
into shock, and that probably happened to him where it's like, Okay,
I know I'm in trouble here, and then they're going
to get you off the field and then they're going
(32:38):
to try to numb that up. But I remember Lawrence
Taylor's reaction because as I've been told that you could
hear it, you could hear it break, and I think
that's what LT was reacting to, is, oh my god,
he just ended Joe Eisman's career.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Uh, I was just watching on one of the websites
that actual play, and they did show at least once
the reverse angle. Well you see his leg kind of
get mangled and stuck underneath. I don't know how many
more times they showed it after that. Yeah, they did
show a slow motion reverse angle.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, sometimes if you show it from Afar, but I
would have shown it. Napoleon McCallum, remember when he blew
out his knee with the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
That was a Monday night game.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes, we've had those, but I think you just have
to be sensitive, that's all. And what I was told
one time by a news director is you want to
show your audience, but you also have to factor in
that person who just got injured their family watching this
as well. And it always stayed in the back of
(33:41):
my mind if you ever had something like this where
it's like, oh my god, well, imagine if that's your
husband or that's your son, that's your brother, and you're
watching that kind of injury and just being sensitive to that.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Who was the.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Picture left handed pitcher who broke his heart because armed? Yeah,
Dave Dreveki and I, you know, you watched it and
you saw the ball just kind of drop and then
you realized that something really bad happened and he broke
his arm on a pitch and uh, you know we
(34:17):
talked to him about that as well. He joined us
and I don't know what year that was, but I
remember that he said, it just popped, and uh he
realized that, you know, it had broken. Something that doesn't
happen but it did to uh Dave. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Going back to last night, I was watching, and I
was more surprised that they didn't show the Nick Chubb
replay than if they would have, because, like I said,
usually they show one, or it was a disclaimer or
maybe a distant angle. Do you think it's the social
media era where they were concerned and real time about
the outpouring of criticism by showing that injury. That's what
I thought when I thought about it for a couple minutes, like, wow,
(34:54):
that's that's surprising day. They didn't show it because networks
usually do, But I think that maybe the chilling effect
has gotten into the booth.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Well. Also, you can show it once, but social media
is going to show it forever.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
Even on social media though you get criticized if you
post the injury. You're not even supposed to post it
on social media, or you'll get back last year.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
All right, let me take a break here. We'll get
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(37:23):
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Speaker 5 (37:26):
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Speaker 1 (37:31):
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Speaker 11 (37:31):
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Could you pick it up?
Speaker 11 (37:34):
And that's Tej what trunning for the exode Steeler rip
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their second defensive touchdown of this game.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Courtesy of the Steelers Radio Network. I like Heismith was
all over the field last night, TJ Watt he finally
scores a touchdown. He ranks third in his family in touchdowns. Yeah,
JJ was six, Derek with three, and TJ with his first.
He leads the NFL and forced fumbles since coming into
(38:15):
the league in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Is t J Watt already a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
He's got I think seventy five sacks if you put
in the forced fumbles in there, like, I don't know
what the line is now, the line of demarcation where
you go?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Okay, now you're a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, Pauline, So he's twenty nine years old.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
He's played. This is season number seven. Out of his
six seasons, he's been All Pro five times, First Team
All Pro, I'm sorry, Pro Bowl five times, First Team
All Pro three times. Right on a cuss, Let's say
there was a career ending injury or something. He'd probably
get the Hall Pass for the injury because of the injury.
But you end up with one hundred sacks, you're on
(38:59):
your way.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Rank.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
How many guys have one hundred sacks who aren't in
the Hall of Fame and they're eligible. I'd be curious.
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Speaker 8 (39:17):
Yes, Paul, I've got the all time sack leaders. What
there's a lot of guys over one hundred. A couple
of names that aren't in the Hall of Fame. Jason
Taylor is he and ye, yeah, he's in.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
He dig it in. Okay, Yeah, Therell Suggs, he's on
his way.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
He'll be in.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
De Marcus Ware is on his way.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
He got in.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
We dig it in.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, this past.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Year, here's one one hundred and thirty three sacks. John
Abraham not a household name.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
He's not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
He retired in fourteen, five time Pro bowler, two time
All Pro, did it for a few different.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Teams, mostly Atlanta, didn't he.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Yeah, never let the league in sacks, but he had
a bunch of like twelve sacks.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Okay, okay, he's kind of a compiling piler.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, as they say, compiling sacks.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
Another one, Leslie O'Neill one hundred and thirty two sacks.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
And if he didn't get in already. He's probably not
gonna has No.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
He was a big deal for the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yes, you know, because the Chargers always had great offense.
We just didn't know if they had enough defense. And
Leslie O'Neill was say he was a great player, he
was a weapon.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
A couple more guys who were over won twenty sacks.
Remember Clyde Simmons for Philadelphia, Yeah, one twenty one, Simeon.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Rice one in Tampa Bay one twenty two.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
And they're not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah it might not. Yeah, they've been out for a while,
those guys.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, Well, have the Veterans Committee, I think, and then
they put in six every year, at least six candidates
go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Uh let's see. Oh,
do we have the all purpose game? All purpose player game?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Okay, yeah, this is based off we have the all
purpose football music.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Purpose.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Taysom Hill had a completion, ran the ball, and caught
a pass last night.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Okay, so threw a pass, caught a pass and had
at least one carriage.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, and the pass had to be complete, not just
in the tent.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Okay, and not to himself, right, because there have been quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Who have thrown and actually cant throned the.
Speaker 8 (41:16):
Pass since in the Super Bowl era, since nineteen sixty seven,
what players have.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
The motion that's correct?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Thank you good night.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Now that's actually not the correct anthem. It's kind of
the critics. Which players have the most games of that
ILK where they threw a pass that was complete, caught
one and ran one.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
The leader in the clubhouse has fifteen such games.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Gail says, Taysom.
Speaker 8 (41:43):
Hill at fifteen. He's winning the Taysom Hill Okay, now
he now that to be fired him. He's playing quarterback, specifically.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Number two all time, Walter Payton.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
Walter Payton is correct with nine damn in putting eight
touchdown passes.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
He's incredible.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
I should have played quarterback as well. I'm gonna see
if anyone can name anyone in the top five. They're
all they all played.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Uh wait, I thought we did a couple more.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
I want to get Emma Smith.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
No, yeah, I don't think they wanted him to throw
the football.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
One's a wide receiver, the other two are running backs.
The other one's a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Is Wes Chandler.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
No, but that's a good guess. I think he's got four.
That's a good guess. I'm giving that to you, Okay,
Cordell Stewart, No, I give.
Speaker 11 (42:37):
You a hit.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
He played most of his career for the Steelers, with
a bulk of his career. Name is hyphenated oh Antoine
Randall l This player was fantastic in college. Fantastic for
your first few years. Then for some reason team stopped
using him and he his career kind of went to
(42:58):
Kansas City. Marcus Allen eight games completions caught one think.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
He was a high school quarterback, then he was a
full back in college, and then became a tailback and
then became a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Two more. This is running back, a friend of the.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Show, Friend of the show, running back West Coast through
a lot of passes. Christian McCaffrey, La Danian Tomlin, Danian Tomlinson.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Okay, now here's the curveball.
Speaker 8 (43:29):
There's a quarterback who, of course threw passes and ran
the ball, but he made had seven receptions in his career.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
This is nuts. Not who you expect.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Bobby Douglas.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
No, he just retired a couple years ago.
Speaker 8 (43:43):
This player, and he's been mentioned on Today's show for
having broken ribs.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Yes, man Drew Brees's career.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Drew Brees is seven catches in his career. How about that?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Talk back to you.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That's the all pro player game. That's the Taysom Hill Gap.
Here's what it's called.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Factionally.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
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us coming up in a little bit. Were they running
that profile on Dion? If Colorado State had won that game?
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