January 7, 2025 • 41 mins
Patriots’ owner Robert Kraft’s handling of Jerod Mayo proves the “Patriot Way” is dead. And former NFL CB Devin McCourty drops by to talk about the mess in New England.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our one on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan.
It's Dan Patrick Show. Two days until Penn State and
Notre Dame. We'll check in with former New England Patriot
Devin mccordy. He'll join us coming up little bit. He's
an analysts for Football Night in America. We have five
teams with head coaching openings, maybe one or two more vacancies.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I go back to.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Albert Breer who joined us. This is a few weeks back,
and he said we could have eight to ten openings
and I was like that many and it might turn
out to be close to eight. All said and done,
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of the Dan Patrick Show. The Packers lost Christian Watson
for the playoffs. Now I'm watching this game, and I'm
watching this in real time, and you can tell when
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somebody gets hurt and they know they're hurt, and it's
not just hey, I got banged up, it's this is serious.
And you solved his reaction and then I knew. I said,
he probably tours ACL and that's what it turned out
to be. This is one of those Wow to me,
people aren't talking about the Packers. The Packers have a
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good defense, they can run. You got Jordan Love. Now
you lose watching that's a big loss, big loss, and it's.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Probably being underplayed here.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But I think everybody's been focused, certainly on the Lions,
and I'm looking at point spreads. So DraftKings sent me
some point spreads. These are hypothetical matchups. The Vikings would
get three and a half against the Lions. In a rematch,
the Rams would get six and a half against the Lions.
The Packers would get three and a half against the Lions,
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the Ravens would get one against the Bills, the Vikings
would get four against the Eagles, Chargers four and a
half against the Chiefs, Texans get seven against the Chiefs,
and the Buccaneers would get six and a half if
they face the Eagles. The Eagles situation is also something interesting.
This is being under sold as well, and that's Jalen Hurts.
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He's been in concussion protocol and that's why I was
all for sake one Barklay not playing in that last game.
What I'd like to see him break the record. Sure,
but you have to have a bigger goal than an
individual goal. And you can't say, well, you can get
hurt in it every game. You can't get hurt in
the game you don't play in. I want to make
sure my quarterback's in concussion protocol. Is he going to
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be available to play? I don't know that. But here's
Nick Siriani being very evasive about the health of his quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
As you put the game plan together, is it with
the intention of jaelling is the starting quarterback this weekend?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I have no new information for you guys, like I
said yesterday, progressing through the protocol.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Are you able to say if he's in the building today?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I got no new info for you guys here today.
I'm sorry, Wait, you can't confirm he's in the building?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Nikes, where's shifty when you need him somebody outside spying
on a grassy knoll to see if it's that hurts?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
See, what is the huge benefit to holding back that
bombshell information unless he's.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Not in the building and that he's at a hospital
or wherever you go for concussion protocol. I think what
Nick has done is he's made it worse. I can't
even tell you if he's in the building or not
now all of a sudden, I'm really curious. But this
is Nick Siriani who doesn't handle the media very well.
And in this situation, you know, if he's there, there's
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nothing wrong with saying that he's not here today.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
We expect him tomorrow. Like you can move around these things.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Sometimes these coaches try not to tell you something while
in the process really telling you something. All right, poll
question to start out first down? Or is going to
be what seeden most attractive opening?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Wow, Bear's Jaguars, Jets, Patriots sings.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Okay, by the way, I had a source say, hey,
keep an eye out on the Colts Monday.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
They may be blowing this thing up. Well they didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They brought back their coach and GM, but they fired
their defensive coordinator, Gus Bradley. I don't know if that's
really detonating anything here, but somebody had to pay the price.
So Gus Bradley was fired with the Colts. But the
Jalen Hurt situation that bears watching here practice coming up
tomorrow will certainly get a better indication if Kenny Pickett
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is going to be the answer. You don't like the
question if you're a Philadelphia Egle fan. North Dakota State
they won the FCS title. The Bison they win again.
I think that's ten national championships, and we were thinking,
if you win the national championship in FCS, can we
schedule something where you get to play the team that
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wins the national championship.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Let's say Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Wins and Week zero you get North Dakota State against
Ohio State. Now it's not going to be on a
neutral site because Ohio State wouldn't do that. But you
get North Dakota State, big moment. Now, granted, the team
that won the national championship won't be the team that
takes the field next year. That could be a problem,
but that'd be nice because I'm all for legation. I
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think that would be awesome if we eventually get to
my playoff picture, my landscape for college football, which maybe
the top fifty schools, maybe sixty, split them up in divisions,
and you have an NFL style model.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But could you have that last.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Day, that last game, those last games where they mean
something where you better win or you're going to FCS
or if you win, you're going up to FBS, you
get to play, and the money is going to be
a lot more. I think it would be fun to
watch that. I don't know how practical it is, but
I think if you had that, just like with the
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Premier League, like sometimes you'll have those last days where
you're like, uh, oh score differential, gold differential, Oh my goodness,
we're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Now you're going to be relegated. No, not the R word,
You're relegated.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
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Speaker 4 (07:03):
Based off that North Dakota State would be promoted to
maybe the Big twelve, and unfortunately this year Kent State
would drop down to FCS Kent State one.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, I think Kent State probably should be relegated, even
though there's no relegation. They lost every game, but I
think over thirty points like they weren't even they like
winning was a rumor for them.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Maybe not even a rumor for that.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
All right, let's see a couple other things here, some
facts that you might be interested in. Bo Nicks is
twenty four years, three hundred and twenty two days, and
that will be on Sunday. That's how old he will be,
the second oldest rookie quarterback to start an NFL playing
playoff game. I could give you a hundred gain, I'd
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give you a thousand guesses. You aren't going to guess
the oldest rookie to start a playoff game in NFL history.
It did happen in twenty twenty two. If if that's
a hint for you, I'll give you his college, which
would probably give it away. I believe he played at
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Kansas State, and he takers here not Michael Bishop. That
was Marvin you were going, there were Skuyler, Thompson.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Paul Tooley.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Just like stat of the Day, Sat of the day,
that passed out of the day, stat of the day,
here comes that what stand.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Out of the day? All right?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So the best opening West Devin mccordy, about that, with
the openings that we had, you had Robert Kraft. I
can't say this was a press conference. It was just
he addressed the media yesterday and he kind of fell
on the sword where he fired drowd Mail after one year, this.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Whole situation is on me.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
I feel terrible for Girard because I put him in
an untenable situation. It was very hard because the personal
relationship I feel for Girard and the human being he is,
and I felt guilty I put him in that position.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Okay, yes you did.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
You know, everybody's a genius when you got Belichick and Brady,
and then when you only have one, not everybody's a genius,
including the genius. And then when you don't have either,
then it falls back to who's running this team. And
the Crafts have been running this team, not Bill Belichick
the last five years and maybe longer Okay, you have
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Gerrod Mayo, who is a coach in waiting. Now Belichick
didn't know apparently that they had already put this in
his contract that he was going to be the coach
in waiting. That's the first problem. You have to let
Bill know because and Bill may say, hey, then I
don't want to be around and you may have to
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eat that one. But you can't do that to Belichick.
Where you go, we're going to put this in the
language in your contract, you're the coach in waiting, and
then tell me that after five years of being the
coach in waiting, he's not ready to be the coach
after waiting five years.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
See, that's embarrassing. Now.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I think what this came down to was not necessarily
the performance on the field as much as maybe handling
yourself as a head coach. And I think Drodmeyo failed
with those responsibilities because I think he wanted to be
the antithesis of Bill Belichick. When he went to a
press conference, he was actually going to say something. Maybe
he was a little more confrontational with his players, not
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that far removed from being a player himself, and I
don't think he handled himself the way maybe the Crafts
wanted him to handle himself as a head coach. I
don't know what they expected because you didn't spend any money.
You have a quarterback, you kind of have a running back.
You were supposed to have a really good defense. The
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last part of last season. You were one of the
better defenses in the NFL. Now you're going to bring
in who Brian Flores, You're going to bring in Mike Rabel,
Ben Johnson. But I don't know if you make that
move unless you know, like, what if they whiff on
Vrabel Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Let's say Brian Flores the defensive coordinator with the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Now, what are you going to bring in another inexperienced
head coaching candidate, Like you can't whiff Like they have
to get their person, They have to get Mike Rabel.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It feels like Ben Johnson. We don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
As I've said many many times, not every coordinator should
be a head coach. Ben Johnson has done a wonderful
job in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't know. Once again, you.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Can be great at your job, but there are other
jobs that go with that. How do you handle prescott differences?
It's really important, is Pete Carroll going to get a shot.
It feels like there's some momentum that maybe he gets
a shot. I don't know why. Now he's been available
in the last couple of years. It's one of those
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that it's like, you know, you find out that some
girls available and you didn't know she was available, and
you're like, well, what happened? I didn't know that Pam
Anderson's available? Well maybe Pete Carroll is the Pam Anderson
of the NFL. Nice you know he's available, Okay? And
the Patriots got cap room. They have I think over
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one hundred million dollars. Why weren't they spending that before?
If you're not going to spend it now, that'd be
my first question. If I'm going to be Mike Brabel
and I walk in and go, why do we have
a hundred million dollars that we didn't spend? Can we
can we buy a receiver? Can we can we buy
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offensive line? Can we buy a running back? Could we
have gotten Saquon Barkley?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You just asked questions where why are you stockpiling all
this money? Are we going to spend this money now?
I'm interestooed in the job. If not, why would you
take that job? Yes, you got Drake May, but you
need more than Drake May. You're gonna win four or
five six games. Okay, that's not the Patriot The Patriot
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way is done. Okay, the Patriot way was Belichick and Brady.
Let's be honest here, it's not the Crafts. It's Belichick
and Brady. Because once the emperor has no clothes, it's
pretty freaking cold. And that's what you have going on there.
How did it get here? And it happened right before
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our very eyes? Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That being said, even though it was an awkward day
for the Patriots, could it have been the right decision?
Because you have cap space and a quarter of that
people like on a rookie deal. It's one of the
more attractive jobs financially, not so much talent wise, but
financially you have an open slate, Like if you're a
new GM, which I'll actually have a GM or a coach.
It seems like a blank slate.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
But I have to know if they're spending money, how
involved are the Crafts. That's what I want to know.
They got more involved, and I think to the detriment
of the team.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You didn't spend any money.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
How do you bring in a rookie coach and a
rookie quarterback and don't surround them. This goes back to
what happened with Andrew Luck. Every team should be reminded
of that. If you're going to bring in a rookie quarterback,
get an offensive line, give them a couple of skilled
position players. If not, then don't use the pick on
a quarterback if you're not going to protect him, you know,
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like Bryce Young, Hey Bryce, go out there and be
a savior. That's not the kind of quarterback he is.
Hey Bryce, sorry, you got to run for your life.
Hey Bryce, you suck.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Come on over.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Andy Dalton's going You didn't help him protect him, and
New England didn't do that with Drake Man and as
a result, you get rid of Gerrod Mayo. And maybe
Mayo wasn't the right guy to begin with. Maybe they
made a mistake to put in the coach in waiting.
But now you got to get Mike Rabel. His Rabel
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gives you a culture. And I know that's one of
those weird words, but Dan Campbell created a culture in
Detroit like certain coaches create a culture.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Rex Ryan, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
For the the good and the bad of all of that.
He had a culture with the Jet. He's still trying
to bank in that culture, saying I'm the best guy
for the job. We're not going to let it be
a country club atmosphere for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I go, okay, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
All right.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Any chance of rabel is the wrong choice because he
reminds everyone of Belichick. He'll probably walk in and say
I'm gonna do this like it was done five years ago.
Free agents didn't want to go play there, especially towards
the end. I don't know if Mike Ray will be
attractive to free agents with Atta Kapram.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Players didn't want to play for Belichick. They wanted to
play for Belichick and Brady because that meant you were
going to get a chance to play in a Super Bowl,
plain and simple. Like the last four years, did you
hear players go, you know what, before I retire, I
want to play for the greatest coach of all time. No,
they said, even defensive players, Hey, I'll put up with this,
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but I want to go and play with Brady. I
got a chance, Chris Long one year to play for
you play in a Super Bowl and he won one.
They weren't going to play for the greatest coach in history.
They wanted to play for the greatest coach with the
greatest quarterback. The Patriot Way. Devin mccordy was part of
that Patriot Way. He'll join his coming up phone calls
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always welcome. Got our poll question here the best head
coaching vacancy right now? Why are the Bears asking permission
to talk to Mike McCarthy. Well, we'll talk about that
coming up back after this Dan Patrick shit.
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Speaker 2 (18:09):
Montana State lost the FCS title game last night. They
will open up the season against Oregon. How about that,
we were talking about the winner. That'd be great if
the winner of North Dakota State got to play the
winner of the FBS Ohio State, And granted it would
be in Columbus, but that's okay. Also, let me clarify
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with Kent State. They went zero to twelve. They lost
by an average of thirty points per game, but they
did have two games where they lost one by two points,
won by six points, but they did have consecutive losses
to Tennessee and Penn State by combined one hundred and
twenty seven to nothing.
Speaker 10 (18:49):
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Speaker 2 (19:01):
He is Devin mccordy, NBC Football Night in America studio analyst.
He was on site with the Sunday Night Crew vikings
and the lines worst loss you ever had in college
was what.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
My freshman year we lost to Louisville fifty five to
like five. We had a safety that was sprinkled in there.
It was something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
What's that feel like?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
You hear the song that they play on kickoff a
lot throughout the game, and I still remember it was
a young jeezy song and they would always play Boom
Boom clatt And we heard that a lot that night.
So you used to hearing that song when you get
blown out.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
What was the atmosphere like in Detroit?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:50):
It was awesome. You know, I think even in pregame
warmost of each kind of wave of guys that come out,
you know, first the returners come out, the crowd goes
and then the skill positions, and then ultimately Jared Golf
came out and they went nuts. And what I love though,
is every time somebody from the Vikings came out, it
was just NonStop booze, and I think like you could
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feel it before the game started up, the impact that
crowd was going to have in the game.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well, that's what I was curious about. That they have
home field advantage throughout in the NFC, But how much
of an advantage is it to Detroit. Is there any
other place that compares like Kansas City that home field advantage, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Kansas City. I think Buffalo like those teams that, for one,
your fan base is intense, they're loud. But I think
they get an advantage too of playing in the cold
depending on who comes there, like we saw last year
when Miami had to go to Kansas City and playing
that historically cold game, but you don't have a shot.
And I think Detroit's advantage is being in that dome.
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That dome gets loud and it gets rocking, and those
people are intense. I just talked to Mike Florial on
Pro Football Talk on the podcast they went and did
their podcast Monday morning, him and Chris Simps. They still
could smell the beer like those people had a great
time in there. So it's a tough place to play.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
What's it like to play in a quiet stadium.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, you hear all the checks. You know, you think about,
you know, defenses, and you know, honestly, it's fun for
defense when you're out there and you can hear with
the offense checks and you can hear yourselves usually like
if you're at home and those kind of big time
matchups in the crowds going crazy making it hard for
the offense. You have to remember, as a defense, you
got to get used to making your calls and stuff
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with that noise. But when you're out there and it's silent,
the energy's tough sometimes, but you get the advantage of
really hearing everything the offense is trying to check and
get to.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I guess there's usually one surprise firing every cycle. I
thought Gerrod Mayo was a surprise. I don't know how
you felt, but one and done in New England. Your reaction, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Got the opportunity to go up to the press conference,
and I remember being in that moment of how special
it was a guy I got an opportunity to play
with a guy that I think for that franchise as
the number ten pick, came in and did so many
things and ultimately was a great leader for the organization.
So when when he was named head coach, I was
so excited. I thought he would get an opportunity to
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really grow into that role. Not much experience in coaching overall,
but I thought he would get the opportunity to grow
and he didn't. And for me, it was a reminder
of this league of I don't care how awesome the
story is, the personal relationships and all that. When you
get in and you're a head coach, they're looking for
a certain thing. They're looking for wins, they're looking for
the alignment and what the vision looks like. And ultimately,
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the Crafts felt like it wasn't there and they moved
on from Jiraw. But you know, I think down the
end it didn't. It wasn't surprising. But if I think
back to the beginning, no way I thought that it
would even be a thought of him being one and
done as a head coach.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But how can he be the coaching waiting for five
years but not be ready for this moment. According to
Robert Kraft.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah. I mean you look at that press conferences and
he said, I think he has all the skills to
be a great head coach someday. And that to me
was why you named him head coaches. You thought somebody
else would get to take advantage of that, and they
only give him one year. I think it's really tough,
you know, And I think back to Jimmy Johnson spoke
to our team my rookie year and he said, the
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NFL is not about fair. You're gonna get opportunity and
that's all you can ask for. And you know, honestly,
it wasn't fair for Draw Mayo to think he would
have everything button up in year one. But that's the
reality of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Devin mccordy Football Night in America Analyst and wild Card
Weekend NBC and Peacock will bring you the Commanders at
the Buccaneers. Better season turned in by Jaden Daniels or
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Oh, I think you gotta go Jaden Daiels just because
a little bit of what Baker's doing was expected, you know.
I think Baker in Tampa has been a beautiful fit
and he showed that he can be you know one
of the top quarterbacks in the league. Jade and Dais
took over a Washington team that we thought, even with him,
they would struggle this year, and you look up and
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they're in the playoffs. They're going to be in the
playoffs playing an opportunity advance that just wasn't expecting. And
the truth is it's all because of Jayden Daniels as
their best player.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
The Eagles situation is interesting and I think it's being
under sold. And that is Jalen Hurts and concussion protocol.
Here have you ever been in concussion protocol?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Actually, my first time being a concussion protocol, I don't
want to say it was the same, but it was
similar into what Jalen Hurst is going through of and
the process was a little different. But I had passed
certain tests so I was able to practice, but I
didn't pass a test yet to be able to have contact,
so I had got a concussion missed the last week
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of the season. Then we had to playoff bye week,
so I didn't practice the last week of the season,
but the playoff bye week, I was cleared to be
able to practice, but still was non contacting. The Ultimately
to get out of protocol. I had to get an
MRI of my brain to be fully out of the
concussion protocol. So it was a whole process, and more
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of a process than normal when we think about concussion protocol.
So I felt a little bit of what he's going through.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Now, if you were Mike McCarthy and you had an
opportunity to leave the Cowboys, let's say the Bears job
is legitimate, you know, he's going to be a free agent,
and I don't know if there's any rush for Jerry to,
you know, sign him.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
They could have done this.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He's been a lame duck coach, but it's hard to
pass on being the Cowboys head coach. But sometimes you
want to get out from underneath Jerry Jones and that
that star.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
That Cowboys head coaching job. It's hard to turn down
until you've been in it for five years. And I
think Mike McCarthy knows exactly what it feels like and
what it is to be in that job. So I
think it'll be telling if he does want to go
on these interviews that he is seeking to see what
it feels like and what it could look like somewhere else.
And the Bears, they had to see it firsthand when
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he was coaching the Green Bay Packers, So there might
be a little bit of an infatuation of Mike McCarthy
and what he was able to do, and he might
want some breathe and room from being on that kind
of soap opera box that the Cowboys give you every
year you're in that position.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
We're gonna have a road team, at least one road
team win this weekend with these games. Give me the
surprise this weekend, the surprise, I would say.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
And I know it's a little harder because of Jordan
Love's injury and Christian Watson being done, but I just
think the Green Bay Packers they're one of those teams
that are a little inconsistent. You don't always know what
you're gonna get. But if they can get hot and
they can get going, they have a Jeff Afleet or
defensive coordinator, has different kind of looks and disguises that
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they can give you. They're gonna play Eagles team that
comes off a week where they're resting, so they might
be a little bit of a slow start getting back
into the field of things that I think green Bay
could surprise Philadelphia. I think Philadelphia is a better team
and should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Green
Bay could get it going at Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Pittsburgh has problems with Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Why, I just ultimately, I think Baltimore is a better
football team. I think we fell in love with what
Russ was able to do took over Pittsburgh that went
on a little winning streak. But I think what we
saw what Baltimore is able to do over these last
few weeks, that's their team and I think they're playing
their best ball right now. And I think Pittsburgh they're
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just not the inabilities of the offense to get the
ball down the field consistently, to be able to pick
up short gains and drive and have ten to twelve
play drives, like that's not what they do well. So
when you're relied on the deep ball non stop, and
if Pickens doesn't come out and have a big game,
then that just leaves you so handicap that I think
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Baltimore has so much firepower that you can't really play
that way. But I will say these two teams, they battle,
and each time they play, it seems like the game
goes a different way. So it's a scary game a
little bit for Baltimore playing a division opponent in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
What if Bill Belichick called you and said, would you
join me on my staff at North Carolina?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I would ultimately think about it, and I would second
I would think about my wife killing me, so I
would have to I would have to say, Bill, I
love you, respect you so much, but coaching is just
not going to be about future.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Okay, what advice would you give if Bill Belichick said,
come down and talk to my players.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I'm not going to be in the room. What would
you say.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I would tell them, prepare for something that won't be easy,
but prepare for a chance to be one thing, a
champion in college, but ultimately an opportunity to be the
best football player you could be. And for some of them,
that's going to be in the NFL. You're going to
learn things about the game of football that are going
to travel with you far after your career. I mean,
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I'm doing TV primarily because I sat in team meeting
rooms for thirteen years and heard the most brilliant mind
and Bill Belichick talk about the game of football. I
know about situations that I've never known. Offense, special teams
defense because of all the things he hit about, you know,
over my thirteen years in football, and for those young
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guys like that won't leave you. There's life lessons in there,
There's everything. So I think ultimately you want to be
a winner and be the best version of yourself. Get
an opportunity to play for Bill Belichick. That's going to
give you that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Did you ever want to punch you?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I mean, how many times would you be? The question?
I remember we went my rookie year. We went nine
straight days of full pads in practice in training camp.
Can't do that anymore, but that like, that's what we
did my rookie year in training camp, like we were
ready to go by top seasons started.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Good to talk to you again. Have fun in the postseason.
Thank you, Devin. I'm talking to Dare Devin mccordy. Football
Night in America analyst in wild Card Weekend Commanders and
the Buccaneers. NBC and Peacock coverage will begin on Sunday
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Talk about a non descript franchise, Marvin said that the
Chicago Bulls might be the New Orleans Saints of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Okay, I could see that. Yeah they're not. They're just generic.
Yeah they're not good, but they're not awful. Awful.
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Speaker 3 (31:35):
Early poll results seton what do you have.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
For me early poll results on the most desirable job
right now?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
All right?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Your options are Bears, Jaguars, Jets, Patriots, Saints. Right now,
the Bears have forty six percent of that vote, followed
by the Patriots at twenty one. Jaguars, Saints and the
Jets are in last.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I don't want to take the Jags job if you
have the same GM who's been there for a couple
of head coaches, Trent ball Keys still there. Patriot situation,
I want to know, are you going to spend money,
how involved are the crafts with the decisions. Saints probably
would be at the bottom of my list. I think
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the Jets have the potential, but they've had the potential
for decades. The Bears is the best situation, I think,
just because you have the best quarterback probably out of
that group, although you can make an argument Drake may
was better than Caleb Williams this year. I just think
get some familiarity, continuity, and you can't have a rookie
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quarterback or even a second year quarterback, and you have
a coach who may get fired or gets fired. Now
you bring in another coach, another philosophy, another offensive coordinator,
it's too much to ask. It's too difficult for these
quarterbacks to go in learn a system, now learn another system.
And that happened with Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield has played great.
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He's a top ten quarterback. May not want to admit it,
but getting continuity, having a couple of really good receivers
and you're putting up forty touchdowns here. But the Bear situation,
I think that's a really good situation. I just don't know.
It feels like they got enough too many front office
people for my liking there. But you look at some
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of these vacancies. The Jags ownership, how involved the Jets
front office ownership is a disaster. Patriots, what just happened?
The Saints, they're just kind of, I don't know, neutral bland.
If you could put a color on these teams, the
Saints would be opal, not oprah opel. Patriots would be beige.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Give me a color for the Jags, Fusia like futility. Yeah,
the Bear's color. Bear's color. I'm gonna give them orange,
orange like a traffic cone. Orange like they can protect you,
but there could also be danger lurking there.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yes, Paul, Yeah, the Jaguars. They have the job opening.
No one ever talks about. Is it possible that Trevor
Lawrence never works out? We're four years in, He's twenty
two and thirty eight as a starter, sixty nine touchdowns,
forty six picks, and despite him being injured this past year,
he wasn't good when he was healthy, and he just
signed a five year, two hundred and seventy five million
(34:39):
dollar deal. Here's your quarterback at minimum for the next
two years. Yeah, no one discusses him as a I
don't want to use the word bus but eight underwhelming.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
But they don't talk about the Jacks.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Once again, understanding the news cycle, how the sausage is made,
you get no clicks if you're talking about the Jacks.
I mean, let face it, you can go and nobody's
gonna talk about the Saints, Bears you'll get clicks, Jets
you'll get clicks. Patriots you get clicks, Jags, Saints you will,
not the Cowboys you will obviously if Mike McCarthy stays
or Mike McCarthy goes. That's how it works. It's like
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your radio station that plays top forty hits. That's what
TV and radio has become you just play the hits
because that's what you're told. You have programming people who
tell you what to talk about, and I understand it,
play the hits. It just I got into this to
cover sports, not just the top end sports, and I
(35:33):
did this at the Mothership. How many times did we
talk about Duke North Carolina Basketball, Yankees and the Red Sox,
Tarall Owens, Mike Tyson. Now, granted, those are people you
did want to hear about or from, but you just
don't want to lose some of the other like the
Cavaliers and the Oklahoma City Thunder are playing wonderful basketball,
Nobody's going to talk about them, and that's unfortunate, but
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this is sort of the sports society that we cultivated here.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You're just going to play the hits. People would rather
hear about.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
How bad the Lakers are, why aren't the Lakers good,
or what kind of trade they can make than they
would Cavalier is a great story in Oklahoma City, a
great story, and it might just ended that, Hey, Okloma City,
great story.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
The interesting part of what you're saying, too, is that
for traditional media, playing the hits is very important, but
with like podcasts and social media and everything, you.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Can narrow down and zero in.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
On one very specific thing that you're interested in, and
there's probably a dozen podcasts covering just that one thing.
So people, it's weird like, are probably more educated than
ever on certain things, like whether it's x's and o's
or whatever, because you can nerd out hardcore on any
minutia of sport if you want.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
But even at my broadcasting school, when students say, hey,
I want to start a podcast, and I always say, okay,
what are you going to talk about? When they say sports,
I go, nope, never make it. You got to be
really specific. What are you going to give that somebody
doesn't give? And I had one of my students say,
I'm just going to talk about the Cowboys. Well, he's
had a successful podcast because he's talking about the Cowboys.
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You talk about the Laker. I mean, this is how
it works. May not be fair. Nobody said it was
going to be fair. If you're Mike McCarthy, what are
you waiting for? I mean, Jerry Jones is really embarrassing him.
Mike has won a Super Bowl. He might be a
borderline Hall of Fame coach, maybe as a Hall of
Fame coach, But what are you doing? And if you're
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Mike McCarthy, I think by Thursday he's a total free agent.
And we're going to check in with the Cowboys coming
up next hour, because now we brought the Bears into
the equation. The Bears are going to interview Mike McCarthy. Okay,
And if you're a Bears fan, don't be high and
mighty and go, oh, we can't have him come in.
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If he was when he was in Green Bay and
I said you could have him as your head coach,
you would have taken him in his second.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Good coach he is.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
His resume is similar to Sean Payton's. Let that sink in.
Because Sean Payton's a genius with a lot of people.
Mike McCarthy doesn't get that. Well, he had Aaron Rodgers,
they only won.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
One Super Bowl. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Sean had Drew Brees, they won one Super Bowl. Mike
McCarthy's a good coach. I think being in that organization,
you're you're gonna get blamed, You're never gonna get credit.
But Jerry has let you be a lame duck coach.
And if I'm Mike McCarthy. I don't know if the
bear situation is real. I don't know if that's somebody
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from Mike McCarthy saying, hey, can you do me a
solid so I can he wants to go back to
the Cowboys. What's Jerry waiting for now? Jerry does love
being in the news cycle. He truly, you get addicted
to this. They want that publicity, they want that attend
You see player o Cho Sinko taroll Owens. When they're done,
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they're like, wait a minute, hey, notice me. Well, Jerry
Jones loves the attention. I think that's why hegged he
was dragging out Dak Prescott's contract c D Lamb. Now
will drag out Michael Parsons. Why you're in the news
cycle constantly talking about your product? And I think that
has got in the way of the Cowboys progressing and
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being a really good team again, because Jerry gets caught
up in this, loves it. Probably loves that we're talking
about Mike McCarthy. I'll get around. You know, he's doing
cameos in a Landman series, by the way, got good reviews.
But I think Jerry likes being a star. It's like
the crafts like being a star. Arthur Blank loves being
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a star. I want my owner to just let people
do their job, let them be stars. These owners love it.
I'm gonna go down there on the sidelines, bring my
girlfriend down there on the sidelines. We're gonna win a
super No, we're not. Jerry loves being a star.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, pulling By the way, Mike McCarthy in the past
eighteen years has made the playoffs thirteen times. In the
past eighteen years, the Bears that made the playoffs four times.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, Mike McCarthy is a good coach.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I think I think it's the image the you know,
when you look at Mike McCarthy like you don't see
Matt Lafleur. I mean I think that people probably it's
sad to say that, but I think you look at
Mike McCarthy like he's not all buttoned up slovenly there
on the side. They did this Andy Reid. It felt like, oh,
Andy Reid. Now we've embraced Andy Reid. But sometimes that
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coach like Tom Landry looked like a coach. Don Shula
looked like a coach. Look at Lombardi out there. Sometimes
you look at that coach, and maybe he's not in
the image of what you think a coach should be.
And I think Mike McCarthy has suffered from them. I
think we look at Mike McCarthy and you have an opinion. Yes,
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Mike McDaniel gets that treatment. Yes, he didn't look like
a coach. No, his pants, yes, well he got his
pants pulled up like that. Coaches don't look like that. Yes,
that's a great point, but I do. I think we
look sometimes and somebody doesn't look like a basketball coach.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, Paul, who's the most coach looking coach of all time?
Pat Riley? Pat Riley, but you're casting him.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
That's exactly who you would catch too slick, too soon?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, Don Shula, Shula did look like a coach. How
about Bill Cower? Bill Cower?
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yeah, Jimmy Johnson in there, that fellow looked like a coach,
Tom Landry, what about Bob. We'll check in with the Cowboys.
One hour in the books, two more to go.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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It's Dan Patrick Show. Two days until Penn State and
Notre Dame. We'll check in with former New England Patriot
Devin mccordy. He'll join us coming up little bit. He's
an analysts for Football Night in America. We have five
teams with head coaching openings, maybe one or two more vacancies.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I go back to.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Albert Breer who joined us. This is a few weeks back,
and he said we could have eight to ten openings
and I was like that many and it might turn
out to be close to eight. All said and done,
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of the Dan Patrick Show. The Packers lost Christian Watson
for the playoffs. Now I'm watching this game, and I'm
watching this in real time, and you can tell when
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somebody gets hurt and they know they're hurt, and it's
not just hey, I got banged up, it's this is serious.
And you solved his reaction and then I knew. I said,
he probably tours ACL and that's what it turned out
to be. This is one of those Wow to me,
people aren't talking about the Packers. The Packers have a
(01:51):
good defense, they can run. You got Jordan Love. Now
you lose watching that's a big loss, big loss, and it's.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Probably being underplayed here.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But I think everybody's been focused, certainly on the Lions,
and I'm looking at point spreads. So DraftKings sent me
some point spreads. These are hypothetical matchups. The Vikings would
get three and a half against the Lions. In a rematch,
the Rams would get six and a half against the Lions.
The Packers would get three and a half against the Lions,
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the Ravens would get one against the Bills, the Vikings
would get four against the Eagles, Chargers four and a
half against the Chiefs, Texans get seven against the Chiefs,
and the Buccaneers would get six and a half if
they face the Eagles. The Eagles situation is also something interesting.
This is being under sold as well, and that's Jalen Hurts.
(02:44):
He's been in concussion protocol and that's why I was
all for sake one Barklay not playing in that last game.
What I'd like to see him break the record. Sure,
but you have to have a bigger goal than an
individual goal. And you can't say, well, you can get
hurt in it every game. You can't get hurt in
the game you don't play in. I want to make
sure my quarterback's in concussion protocol. Is he going to
(03:07):
be available to play? I don't know that. But here's
Nick Siriani being very evasive about the health of his quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
As you put the game plan together, is it with
the intention of jaelling is the starting quarterback this weekend?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I have no new information for you guys, like I
said yesterday, progressing through the protocol.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Are you able to say if he's in the building today?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I got no new info for you guys here today.
I'm sorry, Wait, you can't confirm he's in the building?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Nikes, where's shifty when you need him somebody outside spying
on a grassy knoll to see if it's that hurts?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
See, what is the huge benefit to holding back that
bombshell information unless he's.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Not in the building and that he's at a hospital
or wherever you go for concussion protocol. I think what
Nick has done is he's made it worse. I can't
even tell you if he's in the building or not
now all of a sudden, I'm really curious. But this
is Nick Siriani who doesn't handle the media very well.
And in this situation, you know, if he's there, there's
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nothing wrong with saying that he's not here today.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
We expect him tomorrow. Like you can move around these things.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Sometimes these coaches try not to tell you something while
in the process really telling you something. All right, poll
question to start out first down? Or is going to
be what seeden most attractive opening?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Wow, Bear's Jaguars, Jets, Patriots sings.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Okay, by the way, I had a source say, hey,
keep an eye out on the Colts Monday.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
They may be blowing this thing up. Well they didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They brought back their coach and GM, but they fired
their defensive coordinator, Gus Bradley. I don't know if that's
really detonating anything here, but somebody had to pay the price.
So Gus Bradley was fired with the Colts. But the
Jalen Hurt situation that bears watching here practice coming up
tomorrow will certainly get a better indication if Kenny Pickett
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is going to be the answer. You don't like the
question if you're a Philadelphia Egle fan. North Dakota State
they won the FCS title. The Bison they win again.
I think that's ten national championships, and we were thinking,
if you win the national championship in FCS, can we
schedule something where you get to play the team that
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wins the national championship.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Let's say Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Wins and Week zero you get North Dakota State against
Ohio State. Now it's not going to be on a
neutral site because Ohio State wouldn't do that. But you
get North Dakota State, big moment. Now, granted, the team
that won the national championship won't be the team that
takes the field next year. That could be a problem,
but that'd be nice because I'm all for legation. I
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think that would be awesome if we eventually get to
my playoff picture, my landscape for college football, which maybe
the top fifty schools, maybe sixty, split them up in divisions,
and you have an NFL style model.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
But could you have that last.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Day, that last game, those last games where they mean
something where you better win or you're going to FCS
or if you win, you're going up to FBS, you
get to play, and the money is going to be
a lot more. I think it would be fun to
watch that. I don't know how practical it is, but
I think if you had that, just like with the
(06:41):
Premier League, like sometimes you'll have those last days where
you're like, uh, oh score differential, gold differential, Oh my goodness,
we're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Now you're going to be relegated. No, not the R word,
You're relegated.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
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Speaker 4 (07:03):
Based off that North Dakota State would be promoted to
maybe the Big twelve, and unfortunately this year Kent State
would drop down to FCS Kent State one.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, I think Kent State probably should be relegated, even
though there's no relegation. They lost every game, but I
think over thirty points like they weren't even they like
winning was a rumor for them.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Maybe not even a rumor for that.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
All right, let's see a couple other things here, some
facts that you might be interested in. Bo Nicks is
twenty four years, three hundred and twenty two days, and
that will be on Sunday. That's how old he will be,
the second oldest rookie quarterback to start an NFL playing
playoff game. I could give you a hundred gain, I'd
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give you a thousand guesses. You aren't going to guess
the oldest rookie to start a playoff game in NFL history.
It did happen in twenty twenty two. If if that's
a hint for you, I'll give you his college, which
would probably give it away. I believe he played at
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Kansas State, and he takers here not Michael Bishop. That
was Marvin you were going, there were Skuyler, Thompson.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Paul Tooley.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Just like stat of the Day, Sat of the day,
that passed out of the day, stat of the day,
here comes that what stand.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Out of the day? All right?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So the best opening West Devin mccordy, about that, with
the openings that we had, you had Robert Kraft. I
can't say this was a press conference. It was just
he addressed the media yesterday and he kind of fell
on the sword where he fired drowd Mail after one year, this.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Whole situation is on me.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
I feel terrible for Girard because I put him in
an untenable situation. It was very hard because the personal
relationship I feel for Girard and the human being he is,
and I felt guilty I put him in that position.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Okay, yes you did.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
You know, everybody's a genius when you got Belichick and Brady,
and then when you only have one, not everybody's a genius,
including the genius. And then when you don't have either,
then it falls back to who's running this team. And
the Crafts have been running this team, not Bill Belichick
the last five years and maybe longer Okay, you have
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Gerrod Mayo, who is a coach in waiting. Now Belichick
didn't know apparently that they had already put this in
his contract that he was going to be the coach
in waiting. That's the first problem. You have to let
Bill know because and Bill may say, hey, then I
don't want to be around and you may have to
(10:04):
eat that one. But you can't do that to Belichick.
Where you go, we're going to put this in the
language in your contract, you're the coach in waiting, and
then tell me that after five years of being the
coach in waiting, he's not ready to be the coach
after waiting five years.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
See, that's embarrassing. Now.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I think what this came down to was not necessarily
the performance on the field as much as maybe handling
yourself as a head coach. And I think Drodmeyo failed
with those responsibilities because I think he wanted to be
the antithesis of Bill Belichick. When he went to a
press conference, he was actually going to say something. Maybe
he was a little more confrontational with his players, not
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that far removed from being a player himself, and I
don't think he handled himself the way maybe the Crafts
wanted him to handle himself as a head coach. I
don't know what they expected because you didn't spend any money.
You have a quarterback, you kind of have a running back.
You were supposed to have a really good defense. The
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last part of last season. You were one of the
better defenses in the NFL. Now you're going to bring
in who Brian Flores, You're going to bring in Mike Rabel,
Ben Johnson. But I don't know if you make that
move unless you know, like, what if they whiff on
Vrabel Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Let's say Brian Flores the defensive coordinator with the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Now, what are you going to bring in another inexperienced
head coaching candidate, Like you can't whiff Like they have
to get their person, They have to get Mike Rabel.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
It feels like Ben Johnson. We don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
As I've said many many times, not every coordinator should
be a head coach. Ben Johnson has done a wonderful
job in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't know. Once again, you.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Can be great at your job, but there are other
jobs that go with that. How do you handle prescott differences?
It's really important, is Pete Carroll going to get a shot.
It feels like there's some momentum that maybe he gets
a shot. I don't know why. Now he's been available
in the last couple of years. It's one of those
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that it's like, you know, you find out that some
girls available and you didn't know she was available, and
you're like, well, what happened? I didn't know that Pam
Anderson's available? Well maybe Pete Carroll is the Pam Anderson
of the NFL. Nice you know he's available, Okay? And
the Patriots got cap room. They have I think over
(12:37):
one hundred million dollars. Why weren't they spending that before?
If you're not going to spend it now, that'd be
my first question. If I'm going to be Mike Brabel
and I walk in and go, why do we have
a hundred million dollars that we didn't spend? Can we
can we buy a receiver? Can we can we buy
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offensive line? Can we buy a running back? Could we
have gotten Saquon Barkley?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You just asked questions where why are you stockpiling all
this money? Are we going to spend this money now?
I'm interestooed in the job. If not, why would you
take that job? Yes, you got Drake May, but you
need more than Drake May. You're gonna win four or
five six games. Okay, that's not the Patriot The Patriot
(13:30):
way is done. Okay, the Patriot way was Belichick and Brady.
Let's be honest here, it's not the Crafts. It's Belichick
and Brady. Because once the emperor has no clothes, it's
pretty freaking cold. And that's what you have going on there.
How did it get here? And it happened right before
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our very eyes? Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That being said, even though it was an awkward day
for the Patriots, could it have been the right decision?
Because you have cap space and a quarter of that
people like on a rookie deal. It's one of the
more attractive jobs financially, not so much talent wise, but
financially you have an open slate, Like if you're a
new GM, which I'll actually have a GM or a coach.
It seems like a blank slate.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
But I have to know if they're spending money, how
involved are the Crafts. That's what I want to know.
They got more involved, and I think to the detriment
of the team.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You didn't spend any money.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
How do you bring in a rookie coach and a
rookie quarterback and don't surround them. This goes back to
what happened with Andrew Luck. Every team should be reminded
of that. If you're going to bring in a rookie quarterback,
get an offensive line, give them a couple of skilled
position players. If not, then don't use the pick on
a quarterback if you're not going to protect him, you know,
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like Bryce Young, Hey Bryce, go out there and be
a savior. That's not the kind of quarterback he is.
Hey Bryce, sorry, you got to run for your life.
Hey Bryce, you suck.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Come on over.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Andy Dalton's going You didn't help him protect him, and
New England didn't do that with Drake Man and as
a result, you get rid of Gerrod Mayo. And maybe
Mayo wasn't the right guy to begin with. Maybe they
made a mistake to put in the coach in waiting.
But now you got to get Mike Rabel. His Rabel
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gives you a culture. And I know that's one of
those weird words, but Dan Campbell created a culture in
Detroit like certain coaches create a culture.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Rex Ryan, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
For the the good and the bad of all of that.
He had a culture with the Jet. He's still trying
to bank in that culture, saying I'm the best guy
for the job. We're not going to let it be
a country club atmosphere for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I go, okay, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
All right.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Any chance of rabel is the wrong choice because he
reminds everyone of Belichick. He'll probably walk in and say
I'm gonna do this like it was done five years ago.
Free agents didn't want to go play there, especially towards
the end. I don't know if Mike Ray will be
attractive to free agents with Atta Kapram.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Players didn't want to play for Belichick. They wanted to
play for Belichick and Brady because that meant you were
going to get a chance to play in a Super Bowl,
plain and simple. Like the last four years, did you
hear players go, you know what, before I retire, I
want to play for the greatest coach of all time. No,
they said, even defensive players, Hey, I'll put up with this,
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but I want to go and play with Brady. I
got a chance, Chris Long one year to play for
you play in a Super Bowl and he won one.
They weren't going to play for the greatest coach in history.
They wanted to play for the greatest coach with the
greatest quarterback. The Patriot Way. Devin mccordy was part of
that Patriot Way. He'll join his coming up phone calls
(16:46):
always welcome. Got our poll question here the best head
coaching vacancy right now? Why are the Bears asking permission
to talk to Mike McCarthy. Well, we'll talk about that
coming up back after this Dan Patrick shit.
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Speaker 2 (18:09):
Montana State lost the FCS title game last night. They
will open up the season against Oregon. How about that,
we were talking about the winner. That'd be great if
the winner of North Dakota State got to play the
winner of the FBS Ohio State, And granted it would
be in Columbus, but that's okay. Also, let me clarify
(18:31):
with Kent State. They went zero to twelve. They lost
by an average of thirty points per game, but they
did have two games where they lost one by two points,
won by six points, but they did have consecutive losses
to Tennessee and Penn State by combined one hundred and
twenty seven to nothing.
Speaker 10 (18:49):
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Speaker 2 (19:01):
He is Devin mccordy, NBC Football Night in America studio analyst.
He was on site with the Sunday Night Crew vikings
and the lines worst loss you ever had in college
was what.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
My freshman year we lost to Louisville fifty five to
like five. We had a safety that was sprinkled in there.
It was something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
What's that feel like?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
You hear the song that they play on kickoff a
lot throughout the game, and I still remember it was
a young jeezy song and they would always play Boom
Boom clatt And we heard that a lot that night.
So you used to hearing that song when you get
blown out.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
What was the atmosphere like in Detroit?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:50):
It was awesome. You know, I think even in pregame
warmost of each kind of wave of guys that come out,
you know, first the returners come out, the crowd goes
and then the skill positions, and then ultimately Jared Golf
came out and they went nuts. And what I love though,
is every time somebody from the Vikings came out, it
was just NonStop booze, and I think like you could
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feel it before the game started up, the impact that
crowd was going to have in the game.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well, that's what I was curious about. That they have
home field advantage throughout in the NFC, But how much
of an advantage is it to Detroit. Is there any
other place that compares like Kansas City that home field advantage, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Kansas City. I think Buffalo like those teams that, for one,
your fan base is intense, they're loud. But I think
they get an advantage too of playing in the cold
depending on who comes there, like we saw last year
when Miami had to go to Kansas City and playing
that historically cold game, but you don't have a shot.
And I think Detroit's advantage is being in that dome.
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That dome gets loud and it gets rocking, and those
people are intense. I just talked to Mike Florial on
Pro Football Talk on the podcast they went and did
their podcast Monday morning, him and Chris Simps. They still
could smell the beer like those people had a great
time in there. So it's a tough place to play.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
What's it like to play in a quiet stadium.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, you hear all the checks. You know, you think about,
you know, defenses, and you know, honestly, it's fun for
defense when you're out there and you can hear with
the offense checks and you can hear yourselves usually like
if you're at home and those kind of big time
matchups in the crowds going crazy making it hard for
the offense. You have to remember, as a defense, you
got to get used to making your calls and stuff
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with that noise. But when you're out there and it's silent,
the energy's tough sometimes, but you get the advantage of
really hearing everything the offense is trying to check and
get to.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I guess there's usually one surprise firing every cycle. I
thought Gerrod Mayo was a surprise. I don't know how
you felt, but one and done in New England. Your reaction, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Got the opportunity to go up to the press conference,
and I remember being in that moment of how special
it was a guy I got an opportunity to play
with a guy that I think for that franchise as
the number ten pick, came in and did so many
things and ultimately was a great leader for the organization.
So when when he was named head coach, I was
so excited. I thought he would get an opportunity to
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really grow into that role. Not much experience in coaching overall,
but I thought he would get the opportunity to grow
and he didn't. And for me, it was a reminder
of this league of I don't care how awesome the
story is, the personal relationships and all that. When you
get in and you're a head coach, they're looking for
a certain thing. They're looking for wins, they're looking for
the alignment and what the vision looks like. And ultimately,
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the Crafts felt like it wasn't there and they moved
on from Jiraw. But you know, I think down the
end it didn't. It wasn't surprising. But if I think
back to the beginning, no way I thought that it
would even be a thought of him being one and
done as a head coach.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But how can he be the coaching waiting for five
years but not be ready for this moment. According to
Robert Kraft.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah. I mean you look at that press conferences and
he said, I think he has all the skills to
be a great head coach someday. And that to me
was why you named him head coaches. You thought somebody
else would get to take advantage of that, and they
only give him one year. I think it's really tough,
you know, And I think back to Jimmy Johnson spoke
to our team my rookie year and he said, the
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NFL is not about fair. You're gonna get opportunity and
that's all you can ask for. And you know, honestly,
it wasn't fair for Draw Mayo to think he would
have everything button up in year one. But that's the
reality of the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Devin mccordy Football Night in America Analyst and wild Card
Weekend NBC and Peacock will bring you the Commanders at
the Buccaneers. Better season turned in by Jaden Daniels or
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Oh, I think you gotta go Jaden Daiels just because
a little bit of what Baker's doing was expected, you know.
I think Baker in Tampa has been a beautiful fit
and he showed that he can be you know one
of the top quarterbacks in the league. Jade and Dais
took over a Washington team that we thought, even with him,
they would struggle this year, and you look up and
(24:12):
they're in the playoffs. They're going to be in the
playoffs playing an opportunity advance that just wasn't expecting. And
the truth is it's all because of Jayden Daniels as
their best player.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
The Eagles situation is interesting and I think it's being
under sold. And that is Jalen Hurts and concussion protocol.
Here have you ever been in concussion protocol?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Actually, my first time being a concussion protocol, I don't
want to say it was the same, but it was
similar into what Jalen Hurst is going through of and
the process was a little different. But I had passed
certain tests so I was able to practice, but I
didn't pass a test yet to be able to have contact,
so I had got a concussion missed the last week
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of the season. Then we had to playoff bye week,
so I didn't practice the last week of the season,
but the playoff bye week, I was cleared to be
able to practice, but still was non contacting. The Ultimately
to get out of protocol. I had to get an
MRI of my brain to be fully out of the
concussion protocol. So it was a whole process, and more
(25:14):
of a process than normal when we think about concussion protocol.
So I felt a little bit of what he's going through.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Now, if you were Mike McCarthy and you had an
opportunity to leave the Cowboys, let's say the Bears job
is legitimate, you know, he's going to be a free agent,
and I don't know if there's any rush for Jerry to,
you know, sign him.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
They could have done this.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He's been a lame duck coach, but it's hard to
pass on being the Cowboys head coach. But sometimes you
want to get out from underneath Jerry Jones and that
that star.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
That Cowboys head coaching job. It's hard to turn down
until you've been in it for five years. And I
think Mike McCarthy knows exactly what it feels like and
what it is to be in that job. So I
think it'll be telling if he does want to go
on these interviews that he is seeking to see what
it feels like and what it could look like somewhere else.
And the Bears, they had to see it firsthand when
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he was coaching the Green Bay Packers, So there might
be a little bit of an infatuation of Mike McCarthy
and what he was able to do, and he might
want some breathe and room from being on that kind
of soap opera box that the Cowboys give you every
year you're in that position.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
We're gonna have a road team, at least one road
team win this weekend with these games. Give me the
surprise this weekend, the surprise, I would say.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
And I know it's a little harder because of Jordan
Love's injury and Christian Watson being done, but I just
think the Green Bay Packers they're one of those teams
that are a little inconsistent. You don't always know what
you're gonna get. But if they can get hot and
they can get going, they have a Jeff Afleet or
defensive coordinator, has different kind of looks and disguises that
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they can give you. They're gonna play Eagles team that
comes off a week where they're resting, so they might
be a little bit of a slow start getting back
into the field of things that I think green Bay
could surprise Philadelphia. I think Philadelphia is a better team
and should win, but I wouldn't be surprised if Green
Bay could get it going at Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Pittsburgh has problems with Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Why, I just ultimately, I think Baltimore is a better
football team. I think we fell in love with what
Russ was able to do took over Pittsburgh that went
on a little winning streak. But I think what we
saw what Baltimore is able to do over these last
few weeks, that's their team and I think they're playing
their best ball right now. And I think Pittsburgh they're
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just not the inabilities of the offense to get the
ball down the field consistently, to be able to pick
up short gains and drive and have ten to twelve
play drives, like that's not what they do well. So
when you're relied on the deep ball non stop, and
if Pickens doesn't come out and have a big game,
then that just leaves you so handicap that I think
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Baltimore has so much firepower that you can't really play
that way. But I will say these two teams, they battle,
and each time they play, it seems like the game
goes a different way. So it's a scary game a
little bit for Baltimore playing a division opponent in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
What if Bill Belichick called you and said, would you
join me on my staff at North Carolina?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I would ultimately think about it, and I would second
I would think about my wife killing me, so I
would have to I would have to say, Bill, I
love you, respect you so much, but coaching is just
not going to be about future.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Okay, what advice would you give if Bill Belichick said,
come down and talk to my players.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I'm not going to be in the room. What would
you say.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I would tell them, prepare for something that won't be easy,
but prepare for a chance to be one thing, a
champion in college, but ultimately an opportunity to be the
best football player you could be. And for some of them,
that's going to be in the NFL. You're going to
learn things about the game of football that are going
to travel with you far after your career. I mean,
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I'm doing TV primarily because I sat in team meeting
rooms for thirteen years and heard the most brilliant mind
and Bill Belichick talk about the game of football. I
know about situations that I've never known. Offense, special teams
defense because of all the things he hit about, you know,
over my thirteen years in football, and for those young
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guys like that won't leave you. There's life lessons in there,
There's everything. So I think ultimately you want to be
a winner and be the best version of yourself. Get
an opportunity to play for Bill Belichick. That's going to
give you that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Did you ever want to punch you?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I mean, how many times would you be? The question?
I remember we went my rookie year. We went nine
straight days of full pads in practice in training camp.
Can't do that anymore, but that like, that's what we
did my rookie year in training camp, like we were
ready to go by top seasons started.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Good to talk to you again. Have fun in the postseason.
Thank you, Devin. I'm talking to Dare Devin mccordy. Football
Night in America analyst in wild Card Weekend Commanders and
the Buccaneers. NBC and Peacock coverage will begin on Sunday
night at seven thirty Eastern. Football Night UH in America
kicks off at eight. We'll take a break. Phone calls
(30:16):
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Yeah they're not good, but they're not awful. Awful.
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Speaker 3 (31:35):
Early poll results seton what do you have.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
For me early poll results on the most desirable job
right now?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
All right?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Your options are Bears, Jaguars, Jets, Patriots, Saints. Right now,
the Bears have forty six percent of that vote, followed
by the Patriots at twenty one. Jaguars, Saints and the
Jets are in last.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I don't want to take the Jags job if you
have the same GM who's been there for a couple
of head coaches, Trent ball Keys still there. Patriot situation,
I want to know, are you going to spend money,
how involved are the crafts with the decisions. Saints probably
would be at the bottom of my list. I think
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the Jets have the potential, but they've had the potential
for decades. The Bears is the best situation, I think,
just because you have the best quarterback probably out of
that group, although you can make an argument Drake may
was better than Caleb Williams this year. I just think
get some familiarity, continuity, and you can't have a rookie
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quarterback or even a second year quarterback, and you have
a coach who may get fired or gets fired. Now
you bring in another coach, another philosophy, another offensive coordinator,
it's too much to ask. It's too difficult for these
quarterbacks to go in learn a system, now learn another system.
And that happened with Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield has played great.
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He's a top ten quarterback. May not want to admit it,
but getting continuity, having a couple of really good receivers
and you're putting up forty touchdowns here. But the Bear situation,
I think that's a really good situation. I just don't know.
It feels like they got enough too many front office
people for my liking there. But you look at some
(33:22):
of these vacancies. The Jags ownership, how involved the Jets
front office ownership is a disaster. Patriots, what just happened?
The Saints, they're just kind of, I don't know, neutral bland.
If you could put a color on these teams, the
Saints would be opal, not oprah opel. Patriots would be beige.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Give me a color for the Jags, Fusia like futility. Yeah,
the Bear's color. Bear's color. I'm gonna give them orange,
orange like a traffic cone. Orange like they can protect you,
but there could also be danger lurking there.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yes, Paul, Yeah, the Jaguars. They have the job opening.
No one ever talks about. Is it possible that Trevor
Lawrence never works out? We're four years in, He's twenty
two and thirty eight as a starter, sixty nine touchdowns,
forty six picks, and despite him being injured this past year,
he wasn't good when he was healthy, and he just
signed a five year, two hundred and seventy five million
(34:39):
dollar deal. Here's your quarterback at minimum for the next
two years. Yeah, no one discusses him as a I
don't want to use the word bus but eight underwhelming.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
But they don't talk about the Jacks.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Once again, understanding the news cycle, how the sausage is made,
you get no clicks if you're talking about the Jacks.
I mean, let face it, you can go and nobody's
gonna talk about the Saints, Bears you'll get clicks, Jets
you'll get clicks. Patriots you get clicks, Jags, Saints you will,
not the Cowboys you will obviously if Mike McCarthy stays
or Mike McCarthy goes. That's how it works. It's like
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your radio station that plays top forty hits. That's what
TV and radio has become you just play the hits
because that's what you're told. You have programming people who
tell you what to talk about, and I understand it,
play the hits. It just I got into this to
cover sports, not just the top end sports, and I
(35:33):
did this at the Mothership. How many times did we
talk about Duke North Carolina Basketball, Yankees and the Red Sox,
Tarall Owens, Mike Tyson. Now, granted, those are people you
did want to hear about or from, but you just
don't want to lose some of the other like the
Cavaliers and the Oklahoma City Thunder are playing wonderful basketball,
Nobody's going to talk about them, and that's unfortunate, but
(35:57):
this is sort of the sports society that we cultivated here.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You're just going to play the hits. People would rather
hear about.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
How bad the Lakers are, why aren't the Lakers good,
or what kind of trade they can make than they
would Cavalier is a great story in Oklahoma City, a
great story, and it might just ended that, Hey, Okloma City,
great story.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
The interesting part of what you're saying, too, is that
for traditional media, playing the hits is very important, but
with like podcasts and social media and everything, you.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Can narrow down and zero in.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
On one very specific thing that you're interested in, and
there's probably a dozen podcasts covering just that one thing.
So people, it's weird like, are probably more educated than
ever on certain things, like whether it's x's and o's
or whatever, because you can nerd out hardcore on any
minutia of sport if you want.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
But even at my broadcasting school, when students say, hey,
I want to start a podcast, and I always say, okay,
what are you going to talk about? When they say sports,
I go, nope, never make it. You got to be
really specific. What are you going to give that somebody
doesn't give? And I had one of my students say,
I'm just going to talk about the Cowboys. Well, he's
had a successful podcast because he's talking about the Cowboys.
(37:10):
You talk about the Laker. I mean, this is how
it works. May not be fair. Nobody said it was
going to be fair. If you're Mike McCarthy, what are
you waiting for? I mean, Jerry Jones is really embarrassing him.
Mike has won a Super Bowl. He might be a
borderline Hall of Fame coach, maybe as a Hall of
Fame coach, But what are you doing? And if you're
(37:32):
Mike McCarthy, I think by Thursday he's a total free agent.
And we're going to check in with the Cowboys coming
up next hour, because now we brought the Bears into
the equation. The Bears are going to interview Mike McCarthy. Okay,
And if you're a Bears fan, don't be high and
mighty and go, oh, we can't have him come in.
(37:52):
If he was when he was in Green Bay and
I said you could have him as your head coach,
you would have taken him in his second.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Good coach he is.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
His resume is similar to Sean Payton's. Let that sink in.
Because Sean Payton's a genius with a lot of people.
Mike McCarthy doesn't get that. Well, he had Aaron Rodgers,
they only won.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
One Super Bowl. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Sean had Drew Brees, they won one Super Bowl. Mike
McCarthy's a good coach. I think being in that organization,
you're you're gonna get blamed, You're never gonna get credit.
But Jerry has let you be a lame duck coach.
And if I'm Mike McCarthy. I don't know if the
bear situation is real. I don't know if that's somebody
(38:41):
from Mike McCarthy saying, hey, can you do me a
solid so I can he wants to go back to
the Cowboys. What's Jerry waiting for now? Jerry does love
being in the news cycle. He truly, you get addicted
to this. They want that publicity, they want that attend
You see player o Cho Sinko taroll Owens. When they're done,
(39:02):
they're like, wait a minute, hey, notice me. Well, Jerry
Jones loves the attention. I think that's why hegged he
was dragging out Dak Prescott's contract c D Lamb. Now
will drag out Michael Parsons. Why you're in the news
cycle constantly talking about your product? And I think that
has got in the way of the Cowboys progressing and
(39:26):
being a really good team again, because Jerry gets caught
up in this, loves it. Probably loves that we're talking
about Mike McCarthy. I'll get around. You know, he's doing
cameos in a Landman series, by the way, got good reviews.
But I think Jerry likes being a star. It's like
the crafts like being a star. Arthur Blank loves being
(39:50):
a star. I want my owner to just let people
do their job, let them be stars. These owners love it.
I'm gonna go down there on the sidelines, bring my
girlfriend down there on the sidelines. We're gonna win a
super No, we're not. Jerry loves being a star.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, pulling By the way, Mike McCarthy in the past
eighteen years has made the playoffs thirteen times. In the
past eighteen years, the Bears that made the playoffs four times.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, Mike McCarthy is a good coach.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I think I think it's the image the you know,
when you look at Mike McCarthy like you don't see
Matt Lafleur. I mean I think that people probably it's
sad to say that, but I think you look at
Mike McCarthy like he's not all buttoned up slovenly there
on the side. They did this Andy Reid. It felt like, oh,
Andy Reid. Now we've embraced Andy Reid. But sometimes that
(40:46):
coach like Tom Landry looked like a coach. Don Shula
looked like a coach. Look at Lombardi out there. Sometimes
you look at that coach, and maybe he's not in
the image of what you think a coach should be.
And I think Mike McCarthy has suffered from them. I
think we look at Mike McCarthy and you have an opinion. Yes,
(41:08):
Mike McDaniel gets that treatment. Yes, he didn't look like
a coach. No, his pants, yes, well he got his
pants pulled up like that. Coaches don't look like that. Yes,
that's a great point, but I do. I think we
look sometimes and somebody doesn't look like a basketball coach.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, Paul, who's the most coach looking coach of all time?
Pat Riley? Pat Riley, but you're casting him.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
That's exactly who you would catch too slick, too soon?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, Don Shula, Shula did look like a coach. How
about Bill Cower? Bill Cower?
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yeah, Jimmy Johnson in there, that fellow looked like a coach,
Tom Landry, what about Bob. We'll check in with the Cowboys.
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