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It's our one on this Tuesday, Ready to go over
reaction Tuesday. I walk in, I don't even get to
set my coffee down, and Fritzy goes, if I gave
you a mulligan, would you change your Super Bowl pick
from the Jets? And I go, tod, I made a prediction.
It's one week. It's okay, now, did I like what
I saw last night? No, particularly from their defense because
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they didn't stop the San Francisco forty nine ers. And
you look at time of possession thirty nine minutes to
twenty one minutes. There's never been a disparity like that
in Aaron Rodgers' career. That concerned me a lot more
than Aaron Rodgers getting acclimated with some of his offensive weapons.
All right, plenty of time to talk about that. Alex Smith,
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has it better than we do? No?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Nobody.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So Fritzy sent that note yesterday. Is Jim Harball joining us?
I'm like, okay, I like it, fresh off the wind
out of nowhere and coach Harball will join us a
little bit later on. So the Niners handled the Jets
thirty two to nineteen. No, Christian McCaffrey. I'm going to
talk about that in a moment. First of all, if
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the Jets last night Primetime games, it's you know, we
do overreact to Primetime because we all collectively are watching
a game, then we all collectively have an opinion. And
with the Jets last night, Aaron Rodgers didn't look good,
never got settled in. He threw for under one hundred
and seventy yards. Breys Hall averaged less than three and
a half yards per Garrett carry. Garrett Wilson looked good
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in the first half, shut down on the second half,
and then all of a sudden, a guy named Jordan
Mason comes in for Christian McCaffrey and look like Christian McCaffrey.
It's one game. Yes, it's Aaron Rodgers coming back. He's
forty years of age. I expect that defense to be formidable.
And you have Breis Hall and Garrett Wilson, who are
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you know they can change a game? And do I
still think that they're going to be a playoff team. Yes,
I do. By the way, the over under with wins
after the loss by the Jets. According to DraftKings, the
over under for the Jets wins is nine and a half.
But I will say this odds to win Comeback Player
of the Year, Aaron Rodgers is the big winner so far,
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followed by Joe Burrow, Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold, and Kirk Cousins.
What did Sam Darnold come back from obscurity? That's weird?
And Jim Harbaugh. I'm sure he'll be thrilled to know that.
Odds to win Coach of the Year, He's the favorite
right now, followed closely by Matt Eberflus, Mike McDonald of Seattle,
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and then Gerrod Mayo after the Patriots had their big win,
and Cavan O'Connell after the Vikings had their big win Seeton.
What's the Paul question we're going to go with today
at least the first hour.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, if we started going with biggest overreaction right now,
Sam Darnold might win because he's on his way to
becoming a Hall of Famer, well, maybe a Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I think Marvin said that he would be the starter
in the Pro Bowl. That was our hot take, and
I meant that, Yeah, of course you did.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
They played the Giants every week.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, yeah, every week. All right, So what's poul question
first hour?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Well, we could start off with one here from Todd
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are gonna be just fine.
It's one game on the road versus a great team
or in big trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
They didn't have the ball enough, but give credit to
San Francisco. Their offensive and defensive lines were wonderful. And uh,
you know, Rock Perty didn't do much, didn't have to
do much. Jordan Mason undrapped, did a third year player,
but free agent. So you have the highest paid running
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back not playing, and then you have the cheapest running
back in the NFL. And once again, you don't want
to say players like Christian McCaffrey are interchangeable, just saying
with a really good offensive line and a few other
weapons to focus on, he was able to have a game.
Now here's the thing that was tricky for me last night.
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If I'm a gambler, when is Christian McCaffrey ruled out
of this game? So right before kickoff, thirty minutes before
all of a sudden mothership comes on the air and
it was in Oh by the way, a guy was
really surprised at how Joe and Troy came on the air.
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And then it was they got around to Christian McCaffrey
isn't playing. That should have been the first thing we
saw was Jordan Mason. And you even say to your audience,
why are we showing you Jordan Mason. He's starting for
Christian McCaffrey. That should have been the first thing. Not
It's a glorious night in the bay and now I
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don't care. This is about news that was breaking. Now
that's also the tricky part. Did we know should we
have known Friday or maybe Saturday Christian McCaffrey wasn't playing.
When did the Niners know that Christian McCaffrey was not
going to play? Now, I know it doesn't sound like
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a big deal, but fantasy owners also gamblers, you need
to know. This is full transparency. And that became a
little tricky because Kyle Shanahan, the Niners head coach, was
asked this question.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Jordan said, after give me his hold on Friday night,
he was going to start.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
When did Christian start feeling cry?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I never told Jordan was going to start.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
Told me I had to be ready a bunch, But
I might have been Bobby or somebody trying to pump
him up. But I know gonna have to play a lot.
I told him that he was going to have to
wasn't going to be like usual. Oh he's going to
be a number two back that was splitting a lot
of the time. But now he hadn't know he for
sure was doing that all the day.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
M Okay. Mason rush for one hundred and forty seven
yards in the win, the most rushing yards by an
undrafted player since Austin Eckler a couple of years ago
had one hundred and seventy three yards. But you know
you're watching this happened right in front of you, and
then all of a sudden, we're You're like, who's Jordan Mason?
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And how long is Christian McCaffrey going to be out?
You know, there were I'd seen an update on Friday
that McCaffrey was still bothered, you know, that calf injury,
and it'd been lingering in I guess preseason, and all
of a sudden, You're just going, wait, a minute, what's
going on here? And then they eventually get into the
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story and then you realize, Okay, he's going to be
out of the game. This guy's going to play, and
this is the season opener for the NFC chams, and
it's the best running back, one of the best players
in the NFL. It was treated a little too casually
for me. That should have led the broadcast. It was
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that important. It's that important, and if I'm a gambler,
I want to know. I don't know what that did
to the betting line. I don't know if people all
of a sudden said, you know what, I'm going to
take the four and a half with the Jets because
of that. But it's tricky and you have to have
that information available to gamblers and fantasy. Now, in some
fantasy leagues, you can replace one of your players if
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another player is playing on either one of those teams,
at least I've been told that. So if you had
somebody on the Jets, you had somebody on the Niners,
you could replace Christian McCaffrey with them because they were
playing in the game or their teams were playing in
that game. Yes, Pauline, it's different at different betting sites.
Speaker 9 (08:55):
But when the McCaffrey news was announced, the forty nineers
went from four point favorites to three point favorites, and
the over underwent from forty one and a half forty
two and a half to forty one and a half.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, so it did have an impact here, and it
sounds like somebody knew something on Friday. Now, Kyle Shanahan
is never going to admit that he told Jordan Mason,
you're going to get the start, Christian's not playing, because
then the NFL would probably be dialing up Kyle Shanahan
to say, Kyle, we can't do that. We can't even
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give the perception that something was a little aire Haywire,
a wall something. Yeah, Seeden, So.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Not to go all tinfoil hat on you, but it's
just a coincidence that then they told the kid on Friday,
even though nobody was supposed to know that he was starting,
and then ESPN completely downplayed the news that Christian McCaffrey
wasn't starting.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, watching the broadcast last night, I mean that's the
first thing. I don't care what the weather, and it's
a sunset and a beautiful night and electricity in the air.
It's you got breaking news. Christian McCaffrey is not playing
in the game. That's I mean, you get a pregame
show that actually has some news to it. I was
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just shocked that they didn't treat that like it was
something more important than what it was. And you got
this guy who was an undrafted free agent third year player.
You have no idea who he is. We found out
who he was watching the game, and he played an
integral part in them winning this game. So I was
just surprised. But I don't know if the NFL is
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going to follow up on this, But if you tell
me I'm starting my first game, I think I'm going
to remember that conversation. I don't know if it was
a hey, get ready, you're going to play a little
bit now. Now that's not starting. That's called beddy. Like
my college coach would always say to me, hey, be
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ready as I continue to sit on the bench. He
didn't say you're starting. I would remember that. So it
was a little surprising last night from a couple of
different angles there. All right, let me see, here's Aaron
Rodgers on what went wrong.
Speaker 10 (11:22):
Yeah, you know, we were just bad on first and
second down. I think for a lot of the game
and then you know, we had a couple of drives
we converted third downs, but overall, you know, we we
we I feel like we didn't have any third and
ten pluses tonight, so that's always a good thing we
look on the stat sheet, but we didn't convert those
third mediums. You know, we had a drop, we had
a couple penalties, had a bad throw, so not the
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correct but overall, I feel, you know, I feel good
about our guys that the protection was really good tonight.
We just would a little bit off in the in
the run game, couldn't give brist Co and couldn't give
him enough space. But a lot to build on.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, it's not time to pat I mean, this is
what we want to do. We want to overreact to it.
It's the Niners. The Niners were supposed to win. I
was surprised the betting line wasn't a little more closer
to six points, but it was four and a half,
then went down to three. McCaffrey's not playing, and uh,
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you know, Rogers had some weapons looked good early, but
the defense got man handled last night. That was the
big surprise for me. Panic not yet now I think
they have the Titans next week. Does that sound right?
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yes, Todd at the Titans host the Patriots and then
host the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Is it an okay? They could easily be three and one?
And then we're going to move on to another topic here.
By the way, Jordan Mason salary this year nine hundred
and eighty five thousand dollars. All right, that's a good, good,
good salary. Christian McCaffrey's game check for last night forty
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I didn't know much about Jordan Mason, and was he
Georgia Tech? Nice? Okay, I was going to give you
a hint.
Speaker 9 (13:30):
Fantastic uniforms, a lot of good running back.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, Jordan Mason. So was he there before
Jamiir Gibbs? He was?
Speaker 9 (13:39):
He overlapped with the Gibbs era lightly. We actually he
took over after Gibbs went to Alabama. He was eighteen
nineteen twenty twenty one. He started off great and had
some injuries last few year.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Fritzi wants to change the spelling I guess of Christian
McCaffrey's last name. So it was being kicked around the room.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
McCaffrey made with a name like that, We should have
known that he might run.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Into some problem.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Thank you, Tony calf mcalf mcaff and.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
If you played with the Yellowjackets, shouldn't there be some
buzz around Jordan Mason.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Before already here all might probably would have held off
on the last one. Yeah, ten dollar cover drive. Pretty
good game by Brock, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Mccaffl Uh, Okay, So what's the pole question? We're going
to go with hour one, then we'll take a break.
I think we're gonna go with Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
Actually the uh what about?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Can I put up something along the lines of the
timing of the announcement of Christian McCaffrey's injury story or
not a story?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, but I'm looking at this from a TV perspective
of this is breaking news. It should have been played
up larger than what it was. But you know for
the league and betting, and I don't know, maybe I'm
making too big a deal of it, but it was
breaking news and it wasn't treated that way. It was
(15:04):
we're going to get around to. Hey, let's go down
to Laura Ruttledge, Laura Christian McCaffrey not playing, Okay, yeah, see,
let's see.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I find it more interesting the discrepancy between the player
and the coach. Well, the players like, yeah, they told
me on Friday, And then all of a sudden, the
player has to go back up onto the funny be
like wow, well, I mean I don't because he just
got everybody in trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I felt bad for him because, well, he has his
moment and now he's going up and saying this is
why I don't like the media anyway, Dude, you just
had your moment. Uh, it's not our fault. They're just
asking the right question. When did he know? When? Did
you know Friday? Yes?
Speaker 9 (15:46):
Mark?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Is that going to be awkward because in the postgame presser,
Kyle Shanahan mentions Bobby that's Bobby Turner, the running bass
code for the forty nine ers, Like wait, wait, did
you tell him that he was going to be starting
with Friday.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
But Bobby's not interviewed. You don't talk to the assistant coaches.
So I'm gonna have to take Kyle's word for it
that he wasn't told on Friday that he was going
to be starting. Okay, maybe nothing to see here. I
uh is it Friday?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Did I say start?
Speaker 8 (16:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
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Speaker 6 (18:19):
Shane and I have a mutual friend, you know, good
buddy of mine, Robie Gupta, who I live in the
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just happens to be a fellow Douchie and went to
school with Shane, and so I've got gotten to know
Shane through him, and we just kind of hit it
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great question, Dan, you know, I think it, to be honest,
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it's all Shane's fault. I'm gonna I'm gonna blame it
on him. You know, He's been known as the no
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article about him that did why why does every team
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that doesn't necessarily have the stats that they go with it,
at least the stats that we think of, and what
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great teammate and a great leader and these winning cultures?
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And I think sometimes there's these fallacies around all those things.
And so we kind of have fun digging into it
and chopping it up. And I'm unfortunate enough, Listen, I
get asked to talk a lot about my journey, my career, mentoring,
you know, coming back from my injury, and I think
the same thing, like there's these sometimes people think they're
they're disney Ish, you know, this this idea of like resiliency,
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and it's it's not. You know, I've been fortunate enough
to be a part of great teams. I never would
have done any of the things that I was able
to do without being a part of a great team.
And certainly my comeback was a part of that, you know,
an amazing medical team that.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Helped me get back out on the field.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
So do people come up to you randomly and say,
can I see your scars?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Oh yeah, that's not especially if I have shorts on.
If I got shorts on, yeah, I get I get
very curious minds coming up to being inspecting my leg.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well, it's gnarly looking. I mean, I don't blame them.
It is.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
It's much prettier than it used to be though, come
a long way, But I don't blame them. Listen, it's uh.
I actually appreciate the questions sometimes.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And your kids don't bring you to show and tell
And oh, I.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Think my kids are numb to it.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
They saw it when it was really crazy, So yeah,
I think they and I hope they don't think that,
like that's just what a broken leg looks like, you know,
I think that they think that that's normal. No, I
think they're pretty numb to. It's just Dad's leg at
this point, that's how he walks.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, but if they skin their knees, they can't really
complain to you after what you went through, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Well, I think they do, you know, And that's certainly
a part of what we even talk about on the
pod is like, I mean, parenting is a team too, right,
It's a it's a great big team and we all
have different roles in it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And how does that work?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
And so uh yeah, I mean I think there's things
I constantly, the things that I've gone through, I find
myself pulling you know, harbiisms out on my kids occasionally,
you know, which is is just funny.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
So do you have a fall story? We got him
coming up top of next hour. Is there one? Do you? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I got yeah, I got plenty. I got hardboss stories.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
For days, Dan one, I haven't heard that, would I
can I can bring back to Jim.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
To Jim all right? Yeah, I mean I got a
few minutes.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
First off, Like I'll never forget when I first met him,
you know, like I was we were in the building.
It was actually right before the lockat was going on,
I was getting ready to have my first child, so
I'm kind of sneaking in. I'm getting ready to be
a free agent.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
There's no way that the Niners are going to keep me,
and I'm not sure I really want to be back
with them either, you know, and so but I meanwhile,
they still let me in the building to work out.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So I'm coming in the building.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I'm kind of sneaking in the ground floor and working
out and getting out of there. And Jim comes down
one day and you see, I've been doing this for
a couple of weeks, and I think he maybe caught
when he catches me down there, and he like he
immediately comes up and introduces himself, but he starts he's
sizing me up immediately, like just I mean, like literally
not even being very discreet about it, literally sizing me up.
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I can tell. He's like looking at my body, how
tall I am? Oh, you're bigger than I thought, like
kind of taller and I thought. And then he's like, hey,
put your hand up. I'm like what, So I put
my hand up and he puts his hand up next
to mine. So we're hand to hand right and he's
measuring my hand. I mean, I haven't met him this,
it hasn't been two minutes. And so he's looking.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
At my hand.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
He's like, all right, like this it's I mean, this
full inspection. He's like, hey, you want to go play catch? Sure, sure,
let's go. So he goes in and he taped you know,
he's got this gnarly looking pinky on his throwing hand.
So he tapes up his pinky and just Jim and
I go out on the practice field at the at
the Niners and we play catch and we start, you know,
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he start just normal throwing right so, like we're ten
yards away and tossing the ball to each other. And
after a few dan he starts, like I can tell,
he's like humming them at me right Like, so it's
like okay, and he's kind of like, come on, bringing on.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And so I start humming.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm back at him.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Right here we are again, like I swear, it hasn't
been ten minutes since I met the guy, and we're
playing like Pepper, ten yards apart out in the practicel,
just humming balls at each other as hard as we can,
kind of who can catch them? Who can throw harder.
Then he's like okay. Then we go walk over and
we start. We're playing these games, these throwing games at goalposts,
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and he's like moving me around.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And he was obviously a lot younger. I mean, this
was a long time ago. He's you know, he can
still throw it.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
And so we're playing all these throwing games at goalposts
and trying to do all these contests.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Hey do this now, see if you can do this.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
This lasts about twenty minutes, twenty five minutes, and he's like,
all right, okay, you know we walk in.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
That's enough.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Doesn't say anything. I got no feedback at all on
like how this went. I mean I remember coming home
to my wife and I'm like telling her about what happened,
and she said, well, what did you think. I'm like,
I had no idea, no idea. Well, luckily, a couple
of days later, you know, I go back into work out.
You know, Jim pops back down again and says, hey,
you want to go play catch again? So this repeated.
He and I go play catch for several weeks, just
(23:55):
Jim and I playing catch and playing stupid games and
Pepper out on the field, you know, and all of
a sudden. This kind of led to like, Hey, what
do you think about coming back? And it's just the
way Jim is and he's one of a kind and he's.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
All ball, all ball. I say this on the podcast,
Like Jim, he would tell the team this.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
He's like, damn, his life aspirations were to play football
as long as he could and then coach football as
long as he could and then die.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You know, that's Jim Jim and it's real, you know so, But.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You know what I was wondering about this. I don't
know if you'll get the analogy. He's like ted Lasso,
Like he just has kind of corny saying, he's his
own pert, he's unique, you know, positivity, all of those things.
It just feels like if there's a Ted Lasso in
the NFL, it's Jim Horrible.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Now there is there is, And I think that's It's
kind of the one thing I think people ask about
leadership all the time. You know, what makes a leader,
and certainly in the NFL world where it's a bunch
of alpha dogs, right like the biggest, biggest, baddest dudes
on the planet. But at the core of being the leader,
like you got to be authentic, right, you can't. You
can't bes anybody, and Jim it's authentic, Like he just
loves football. He genuinely like he is doing what he's
(25:11):
meant to do. And as quirky as it is, Like
I think, I know, I always just appreciated the honesty
in it, like he just is who he is. It's different, yeah,
but like again, he loves what he's doing, he's grateful
for it, and I think that it really sets a
tone for the building and the team.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm talking to Alex Smith, the three time Pro Bowler,
Comeback Player of the Year and co host of the
new podcast Glue Guys with former NBA player Shane Battier.
What did you see with the Jets offense last night
that would concern you?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
To be honest, I wasn't real concerned about the offense.
I mean, listen, Aaron hasn't played a whole lot of
football in the last.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Year and a half.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Right, four plays, It's to be expected that they were
going to It wasn't gonna be smooth. They're going on
the road on Monday night and playing one of the
best teams in football. Like I thought, it was just
such a ridiculous task. To be honest, I thought their
defense didn't show up. I mean, this is supposed to
be their calling card, is this defense and no Christian McCaffrey,
and you know, I thought maybe they'd have a chance
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to keep him in this game, and they did for
the first two drives, and then that and that went away.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I thought Aaron looked good.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
I mean, there's processes in your comeback, right, Like this
guy hasn't he hasn't played in the preseason. He hadn't
been tackled again four plays in the last year and
a half. I thought he moved around well. I thought
he threw the ball well. I think they're going to
be okay again. The defense was probably my bigger concern,
really kind of out outplayed in this game by that
(26:37):
Niner offense and Kyle Shanahan and so, I mean, I
think they'll have a chance to write the ship here
this week against Tennessee. But a little bit, I thought
it was an overwhelming task to put him back on
Monday night, a year after what happened again on the
road at the defending NFC champions.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Tom Brady, you talked about these rookie quarterbacks and he
used the word. I think tragedy that they're being ushered
in to start, and you know, you got a dumb
down offenses. And I disagreed with it because it feels
like these rookie quarterbacks, most of them have played for
two different universities, two different offenses. They've gotten money with nil.
These offenses in college are so much more intricate than
(27:17):
they used to be. Now you're going to struggle. Bo
Nick struggled, Caleb struggled, Jaden Daniels had moments where he
looked pretty electric there. So what's your reaction to what
Brady had to say and then base that off what
you saw week one with these rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Yeah, generally speaking, you know, I aligned with Tom like
I think, if you're taking a quarterback in the first round,
I think you should do everything in your power to
make sure that when they take the field like they
are ready to roll. I mean, I just think I've
heard coach Saban talk about it, and I lived at
the expectations on a first round quarterback. It's so much,
it's so heavy, the game is so different, and that
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it's like the worst success rate in the NFL if
you look at a position basis, Like, of drafting positions,
the lowest hit rate in the NFL for first round
picks is quarterback, and so I generally think that, like,
why not have them over prepared? Listen, if you waited
a little too long, could Patrick Mahomes have played earlier?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Absolutely right, But like, what's the what was the fault
of him waiting? You know, almost all the season, and
then you're hitting, Like, what's the what's the what's the
worry about? You know, Jordan Love waiting a couple of years?
The important thing is to hit on it. And I
think you're making such a big investment in these guys.
I think you want to again ensure that they have
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the best chance to succeed. With that all being said, Dan,
I completely agree with you. This year's class. This year's
class is an exception to the rule. I mean, these
guys have played more football and are more prepared as
a class that I can ever remember. I mean, Bo
Nicks has literally played more football than any college football
than anybody. Jane Daniels five year starter. I mean, these
guys are very very accomplished. Even Haleb Williams, Like, listen,
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we've known he's going to be the number one pick
for a couple of years now. I mean, this guy's
been dealing with expectations since high school, he's played college
football at the highest level. Even he's he's I think,
really well prepared for this. And I don't think we
can judge this off of one week, right, I mean,
it's the opening week. This game is a blur. They're
they're not even going to remember this game several years
from now. Dan, So like, I kind of tend to
(29:24):
agree with you in this, in this instinct and not.
I think the other thing, too, is one rule, doesn't
you know, one shoe doesn't fit everybody in this this thing.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You know, you look at CJ.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Stroud and what he did last year, obviously overly prepared
and ready to take that over. I think you have
to look at that, you know, the other ten guys
in the huddle, the entire team as a whole, and
then obviously the individual like what system have they been in,
what kind of football are they playing? What are we
asking them to do? And then go off of that.
But yeah, this is an interesting year and interesting class,
and I think they are ready to go.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Do you remember a specific time when you realize that
Patrick Mahomes was going to be Patrick Mahomes whether practice
game did you have that kind of oh where you
go home and you tell your wife, uh, oh.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
You know, I think the thing listen.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
I mean about halfway through the year, he started to
make some plays on the scout team, like some of
the you know, the throws that we see on Sundays,
you know then you know, no looking like a twenty
yard dig route. I mean, you know, as a rookie,
who's doing that, who even has that like the guts
to do.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It and then they let alone pull it off.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
But I think more so than that, and what gets
lost with Patrick a lot of times is like I
mean Patrick beat me into the building almost every day
that entire year, right, you know. And it wasn't he
didn't do it for a week, he didn't do it
for the first month.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Of the season.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
It was just all year and incredibly curious. He's just
a grinder, like a guy loves ball. He's obsessed about it.
He you know, it is again he's doing what he's
meant to be doing. And yes, he has these spectacular talent,
but like, more so than that, like this guy I got,
I got the opportunity to be in camp with them
this this last training camp, and I sat in meetings
(31:07):
again for days, and I ain't been in that kind
of environment with Patrick. You know, I've seen him, I
played golf with him, you know, over the last few years,
but I haven't sat in a meeting with him since
his rookie year. And to watch him operate in the
meeting room, Dan, I can't tell you how blown away
I was, like leaving there, Like how detailed he was,
like we want to we went through protections. I mean, uh,
(31:27):
this guy's on every aspect of his game, and I
think sometimes that gets lost with the wold plays that
he makes, you know, and again how obsessed he is
about his craft, being the best quarterback in the NFL,
and and so I think if there was a thing
that entire year, it was also that, like again that
he he beat me in every single morning, right all
the way till the end. The guy just loves football,
(31:49):
loves competing, you know, he wants the ball in his hand.
He's not afraid of the moment. So I think all
those things kind of over the years showed, you know,
showed their head. And then certainly when he started the
last game against Enver, very very.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Apparent that he was ready to go.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You can keep a secret. I got to give you
credit because I'll go back to the Super Bowl in
Minnesota where we had you in studio and I'm asking
where you're going? You stay and you're going. Six hours
later you signed the deal with Washington. You could have
helped me out that day.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
That was a weird day, Dan. I remember that day. Well,
it was a very strange day.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
I felt like I was not sure what I could
and couldn't say as these are like I knew we
were kind of in the you know, the eleventh hour
of negotiations and close, but very strange. I apologize for that,
you know now being on this side of the you know,
the media, I appreciate you know.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well, what was the other team? Was there another team
that was in the mix here that you were going
to go to?
Speaker 6 (32:52):
There were other teams in the mix there certainly wasn't
They were very close in my opinion, you know, like
you can tell me I wanted to go, You can
tell me no, to be honest, like you wasn't even
know my trade, My trade from San Francisco was probably
far more competitive. My trade from Kansas City. It was
very clear that the lease in my eyes that Washington
was the best destination and where where I wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Well, good luck with the podcast. We'll check in with
you during the year. And uh great to see you again,
Dan Gray, seeing you man. Thank you Alex Smith, the
former number one pick overall by the Niners back in five.
It's called Glue Guys with Shane Vattier. It's available Apple, Spotify, YouTube,
your preferred podcast destination. Take a break, play the day
(33:37):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
The play of the day.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
This is the play of the day.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Check this out. You behind bell left. They run Mason
off the left side of cutback running.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Touchdown sand friand ciscown.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
A little Mason madness on the cutback right off. It's
unbelievable block by George Jenner.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
That's courtesy of k NBR, which came first touchdown Cansas
City or touchdown San Francisco. Maybe we could do some
research on that. By the way, Since twenty eighteen, the
Niners have had four different undrafted players rush for at
least one hundred yards in a game. You'll get one
(34:41):
of these. So, well, you got Jordan Mason, then there
are three other players, Marvin, you're the Niners fan Rahem Moster, Yes,
that's the one you were going to get. Jeff Wilson Junior. No,
Matt Brita. Wow, that's your play of the day. Play
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Speaker 9 (35:23):
When you give a list like that, it just makes
me think, why would anyone spend on a running back.
I'll get Jeff Wilson for a couple of years, and
I'll get Matt Brita for three years and other.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Well, I go back to the Broncos. It felt like
whoever was the tailback for the Broncos when they had
that great offensive line that was allowed to cut block
you they had a thousand yard rusher every year, and
it felt like they were just interchangeable. It didn't matter Orlandis,
Gary Todd.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Mike Anderson was another one of those.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Was he the Marine He was, Yeah, but it just
felt like Terrell Davis Hall of Fame running back. But
these other guys not necessarily, Yes, Paul, the forty nine ers.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
If you go back to twenty seventeen, in the last
six years, their leading rusher was Carlos Hyde, Matt Brita,
Raheem Mostert, Jeffrey Wilson, Elijah Mitchell. So six years, six
leading rushers, and they were good.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
McCaffrey's great, But I don't know, we've just seen this
too many times. When teams find a running back, you
go where did he come from? It's I mean, I
know we do that at other positions, where it'd be
like that guy who knew that he was going to
be an All Pro tackle here, but running backs, it
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just feels like we find that they're interchangeable. Plus their
career expectancy is a window of maybe five years, maybe
six years if you're lucky, usually around two or three years.
But you just there's so many you know, Isaiah Pacheco.
You just watch that guy and you go, man, he runs.
(37:00):
He's probably not going to make a lot of money
in his career. He's getting nine hundred grand a year,
he's playing in some Super Bowls. He's probably not going
to get that next big pay check that a lot
of these running backs you know, hope for. Yeah. Yeah, Set,
And you were going to say.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
When you look at the forty nine ers and you
look at how important Debo is to them, yeah, it's tough.
It still feels like he's the second class there when
you look at Christian McCaffrey and yet their record with
him on the field versus without, there's a drastic difference.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I thought he was going to be the running back
last night with McCaffrey not playing. I thought they'd just
line up Debo and let him be the tailback. Now
he did a couple of times, but you know, they
got they have a great offensive line and they manhandled
the Jets. There was no reason, you know, for them
to put Deebo back there. Yes, Mark, if you're.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
The forty nine ers, do you just say a Christian
hang out for maybe two or three weeks because the
goal is to play in February, and so we don't
want to run you in weeks two, three, and four.
You know, we don't need to if Mason's gonna go
off like this.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Here's some Denver Bronco one thousand yard rushers. Clinton Portis,
here was a good running back, Ruben Drones, Ohrones, Mike Anderson,
Tatum Bell, Willis McGahee, No, Sean moreno, c j Anderson,
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Philip Lindsay rushed for a thousand yards.
Speaker 12 (38:35):
Stead of a day, stant of to day, start out
to day, stant out to day. This is the stun
of the day.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Jason in North Carolina? Hi, Jason, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Morning?
Speaker 13 (38:53):
DP, Morning fellas Jason here in North Carolina a saft
two hundred. Hey, big shout out to Jordan Mason for
such a I mean, a coming out party on Monday
and night.
Speaker 14 (39:07):
I couldn't be happier for the young man.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
I do have.
Speaker 14 (39:12):
Respectfully, I do have to disagree with your DP on
ESPN's handling of the reporting with you know, I was
watching the pre game there with Ryan Clark and Jason
Kelsey and the boys, and they did make a big
deal about it about an hour before the game. But
there's a lot of storylines in that game, as far
as Aaron Rodgers coming back, that was obviously what they
(39:33):
were leading with most of the time, and so there's
a lot of stuff to be talking about and so well.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But Jason, I'm talking about when Joe and Troy come
on the air, most people are tuning in for the game,
not necessarily the pre game, and you have direct TV.
You know, there's obviously, you know the problem with Disney
and a lot of people not getting ESPN being able
(39:58):
to watch that pregame show. Joe. I thought Troy and
Joe should have started their broadcast leading into the game
by showing Jordan Mason. I thought it was that big.
I didn't see the pregame show, so that's why I'm
saying it was that important to me. But thank you
for setting me straight that they did talk about it.
(40:19):
It doesn't matter. They still should have started with that.
In my opinion, if I was the producer or I'm
part of the broadcast team, I'd be like, you have
to open up with a shot of Jordan Mason, and
you have to say, who is Jordan Mason. You're going
to find out tonight. He's starting in place with Christian McCaffrey.
That would have been my approach to it, because then
(40:40):
it was real he was actually there and Christian McCaffrey wasn't. Now,
if the Niners were playing the Jets at the Jets
last night, we would have known sooner because Christian McCaffrey
would have not made that trip to New York if
he's nursing this injury. Now they said calf and Achilles,
he wouldn't have been there. When did you know that
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he was not going to play, because you would have
had to make that decision. Maybe Friday or Saturday, Probably Friday.
Jim Arbaugh, he's going to join us, coming up here
in about ten minutes. More of your phone calls as well.
Just getting started on this Tuesday, and glad to have
you with us