September 13, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan talks about last night’s game between the Miami Dolphins and Buffalo Bills and the future for QB Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins after he suffered yet another concussion. And former NFL DB Devin McCourty stops by to lend his thoughts on Tua’s predicament and break down the rest of the NFL.
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Former defensive back will join us coming up. Mike Florio
from Pro Football talk more on what Deshaun Watson could
be facing, but we start with the Bills rolling the Dolphins.
Now I'll get to Tua and his injury in a moment.
I just want to focus on the game. This is
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a sports show, the game itself. When Tua was healthy,
the Dolphins were getting rolled by Buffalo, and I know
they'd had their moments where they could have scored a
touchdown maybe to make it a ten point game. And
then all of a sudden, they take out Tyreek Hill
and Jalen Waddell with eight minutes to go. Skyler Thompson
comes in and Buffalo goes there. And I said, this
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was a must win, must ish win for the Dolphins
perception wise, win this game, even with a healthy Tua.
He threw a pick six, he had another interception that
wasn't his fault, but did not look good. Tyreek Hill
got shut down. I mean, if I'm Buffalo, Josh Allen
didn't have a great game, but he didn't need to.
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James Cook was great, and they were able to dominate
the Miami Dolphins. So if you said Josh Allen is
going to throw for less than one hundred and fifty
yards and he's going to rush for less than fifty
yards and be like in they won, Yes, And that
was before you had the injury to Tua. James Cook
had three touchdowns there toa throws three interceptions and then
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he suffers the concussion in the third quarter. Here was
the call on that play with two a tongue, I
loa to.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Out of the shotgun back to throw, looking pressure is
gonna run with it at the five eight yard behind
him it puts his head down and gets folence down
at the sixth and he looks big Joe.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Oh boy.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Then he had to run.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
He wasn't sure, so instead of sliding once he got there,
he picked up a couple extra yards.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's a great effort. But well this is it's not good.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
No, it's not Goodvil is up walking slowly off the field.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
However, you knew it right away.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But if you look at the play, he lowers his
head and he runs into DeMar Hamlin of all people,
and Tua initiates the contact there, but it's not a
helmet to helmet and then you know it's one of
those situations where you go, what's he thinking? But players
they react, it's instinctive. Should he be out there running
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lowering his head. No, he survived all last year, no concussions.
Twenty twenty two. We know what happened there.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
If I go back to the twenty twenty two NFL season,
that was Week three Sunday one o'clock game when he
was injured against the Buffalo Bills. Clearly he had a concussion, clearly,
but they said that it was his back. The official injury,
if you go back and look at that, it says
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that he suffered a back injury. The injury report was
never listed as a concussion. Okay, Four days later against
the Bengals Thursday night, concussion and it's a nationally televised game,
and then inactive for Week five and six. Then he's cleared,
and then a day before the Week six game, but
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he was held out of that game as well. The
day after the Week sixteen loss to the Packers, that's
Christmas Day, National TV once again goes into the concussion protocol.
He had symptoms there. Two days later, Tua it's confirmed
had a concussion and he was ruled out of Week
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seventeen and eventually week eighteen. So that's two concussions. He
wasn't clear to return to practice since entering the concussion protocol.
For the Dolphins. In the wild card playoff matchup, he
was held out of that as well, and that was
the dolphins last game of the year. Now you say, okay,
that's three concussions. To me, it's four concussions. And I
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know this. This gets tricky. Even last night, and the
first thing I thought of when I saw two a
walk off the field. As strange as this is going
to sound, but this is what I thought. Heinz Ward
told me when the Steelers played the Ravens, he went
across the field and he got his bell rung. He
knew that he was concussed. He gets to his feet
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and he started limping. He said he thought that if
he could limp, maybe they would not rule him out
with a concussion. When Two is coming off the field,
he starts limping, and I'm wondering if in that moment
he's thinking, how do I stay in the game. They
didn't even take him to the blue tent. They took
him to the locker room and that's when I realized
(08:01):
that this was going to be serious again.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I know that he took jiu jitsu. He was learning
how to fall.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And as I've said before, you can learn how to fall,
but that doesn't mean the person tackling you is going
to help.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You with you learning how to fall. And last year
went well.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But also if you look at the Dolphins offense, it's
predicated on to a not being back seven yards. It's quick.
That's why you got two of the fastest receivers in football.
If you're going to go eighty yards with a touchdown
pass from Tua, chances are he threw it fifteen yards
and then you took it sixty five. It's very It's
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a timing aspect there, and they were not on the
same page last night. You know, Kirk Kurbstreet was saying that.
Herbie said, you know something's wrong here. They were not
in synchronicity and it's all about timing there. And now
you have Skyler Thompson the backup quarterback. That's not the
style that he plays. And you know I did think
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about that as well. Where I'm going, Okay, you know
you have somebody who has at least had a couple
of concussions. Yes, you did give him that big contract.
Everybody's holding their breath. But if something happens like this
could be to his last game this year, and it
could put an end to the Dolphins trying to be
a playoff team this year. I mean, that's the harsh
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reality of this. And then we're going to talk to
Mike Florio next hour about salary cap ramifications, and look,
I'm trying to be as sensitive as possible, but my
job is still to look at this through the lens
of sports. The team salary cap quarterbacks who could be available. Yes,
do I like to meet his family at the super
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Bowl in Miami? Yes, always been friendly to us. I
hope the best for him. I'm not here to say
he should retire. But here's the tricky part with this.
If he is medically cleared and he decides he doesn't
want to play, there's a chance that all that guaranteed
(10:05):
money will not be guaranteed. So imagine if you're the
doctor who's going to either clear him or not clear
him if he decides, you know what, I want to
have a long life here and I'm not going to play.
Or if he is cleared, then and you're more susceptible
to concussions after you've had a concussion. But this is
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what we've talked about even when he got the big contract,
Like I'm like, I wouldn't have given him the contract
because of this. It would make me nervous. And I
know he played so well last year and the last
person who should be lowering his head and taking on
contact he initiated contact is toua and that's why do
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the best you can. But you can't really protect a
player from himself. Instinctively, he's trying to get a first
down there, and it was sad because you want to
see these players be great. He is a great story.
You know, the injury suffered in college. You know, the
Dolphins took a big chance on him, they passed on
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other quarterbacks. Then you get Mike McDaniel coming in. He
brings in his offense. They're explosive, they're exciting, Tyreek Kill,
Jalen Wonnell obj, They're ready to go, and then this
happens and it's sad. It really was. It was sad
to watch it last night. Here is Mike McDaniel, the
Dolphins head coach, on to his injury.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
I think it's important to approach each and every situation
to the you know, much like approach every injury with it,
which is basically, all right, we're going to handle this
particular situation with this particular player. You know, every situation
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is unique to its own, So you know, I think
I think.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
There's for me.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I'm not worried about anything that's out of my hands
in terms of I'm just worried about the human being.
And you know, he'll drive the drive the ship when
we get the appropriate information.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
But it's day by day health.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
He's clearly shook. You can hear he's struggling to find
the words. What do you say? How do you spin
this in a positive way? But you know, the Dolphins
are going to have to have football decisions to make,
and here we are, it's week two.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Tua, with the help of family friends, a doctor is
going to have to.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Have a decision to make football wise as well his future.
And I know there are a lot of people on
social media said he should retire. I said that before,
but you know, I'm not the one out there. He's
the one who probably thinks, you know, I can still
make this work. It's all it takes is one play,
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one moment. And it didn't seem like it was going
to be something that led to this. He initiated the
contact he lowered his helmet, he didn't, he didn't connect
with DeMar Hamlin's helmet. He initiated this went to the ground,
and I mean he ran into DeMar Hamlin's shoulder, his bicet,
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and as soon as he lowered his head, I go, oh,
like I didn't think he would be concussed, But I'm like,
what is he shouldn't be lowering his head And then
he's down and then his teammates knew exactly what was
going on, and then they surrounded him. So the cameras
or people in the audience in the stadium wouldn't know
what's going on. But when you see whether hands and
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arms are stiff, I mean it's scary. That is scary,
and everybody you know we're trying to perfect the helmet.
The helmet doesn't protect the brain. It protects the skull.
It doesn't protect the brain. But to a I don't
know what the timeline would be with anything, and I
(14:11):
don't even want to speculate with that. I just want
to deal with what is the football aspect of this.
We all went to it to be healthy. We hope
that he gets to play again. But my job is
also to look at what the bottom line is here.
What do the Dolphins do now? Do they bring back
Ryan Tannehill? Can you get somebody who plays a similar
style to Tua because that's what the offense is built around.
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To Skyler Thompson, they didn't look like they had confidence
in him to run that offense. Even when they get
down inside the five, they were running the football. They
weren't going to let him pass. I don't know if
you reach out to the Rams Jimmy Garoppolo has been
suspended to you say hey, you know, we'll give you
(14:55):
whatever I mean. You guys are ready to go now.
This team is ready to go.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You got the Jets, you got the Bills. You know
the Patriots might be a little more competitive. But prior
to the trade deadline, can you go out there and
get somebody in Saldvat your season is too going to
be able to come back? Do the Dolphins want him
to come back? Does he want to come back? So
there's a lot of things in play here other than
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it is a concussion and it's a nationally televised game.
I can't over emphasize that enough when we see it.
If this is a one o'clock game. It resonates differently
with people. You're watching it, and everybody has, you know,
some kind of opinion on this, former players saying he
should retire. Let's get the medical diagnosis. Now you get
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your bell rung. This isn't his third concussion or fourth concussion.
Chances are he's had numerous concussions. It used to be
when I was growing up, my brothers would play football
and they would get their bell rung. That's like, oh,
got your bell rung. Yeah, we'll get back out there.
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But they were suffering concussions. We just kind of.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Softened it a little bit. You got your bell rung? Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Would we have Troy Polamalu? I said, how many concussions?
He goes, I'll tell you when I'm done playing football,
But he said, I think he got his bell rung
over a hundred times. Just do the math with this,
and if your Tua, his family, those around him, it's
(16:36):
a lot of money. But you want to live. You
want to live a life because do you know what happens.
I don't know how many people are checking on Jack
Lambert today the way he played for the Steelers, or
Mike Singletary, the way he like these players play, they
give everything and then they go and then we move
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on from them, like Bob's and the way he played
for the Colts. See, that's what would worry me, because
we just kind of chew you up, spit you out.
Another guy comes in and we move on, and then
all of a sudden we see Earl Campbell in a
wheelchair and we go, look at Earl Campbell. But when
he was playing, we loved it. Love you Blue, all right.
(17:20):
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Here is Josh Allen and The Bill's quarterback talking about
the injury that Tua suffered.
Speaker 10 (18:32):
If you know too outside of football, like you do,
like I do, you can't help but feel for him.
He's a great football player, but he's an even greater
human being. He's one of the best humans on the planet.
Speaker 11 (18:44):
You know.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
I got a lot of love for him, and I'm
just praying for him and his family and hoping everything's okay.
But yeah, it's a it's tough, man. This is this
game of football that we play. It's got it ties,
and it's got its lows, and that's definitely one of
the lows.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And you have to compartmentalize.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I'm guessing as an athlete that you don't think it'll
happen to you. You see it happen, you know it
can happen.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Josh Allen plays a physical style of football, as physical
as any quarterback and has to think at some point
this could be happening to me. And with Tua lowering
his head initiating contact, and now the question is when
he's going to be cleared, some decisions are probably going
to have to be made. He's Devin Mccording, former defensive back,
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won three Super Bowls with the Patriots, now works for
Football Night in America. I'll get to Tua's injury in
a moment, Devin, but let's look at the game itself.
Let's say Tua was healthy and they lost this game.
What would we be saying about the Miami Dolphins and
their approach to the Buffalo Bills last night?
Speaker 12 (19:46):
We would be saying the same thing we've been saying
over the last few years. They just can't get over
to hump with Buffalo. I think Buffalo's defensive scheme at
how they play against Miami's high powered offense of let's
keep two safeties deep, let's keep everything in front of us,
Let's force you to drive the field on a ten
to twelve play drive has been the formula, and I
think they've executed it probably better than any team in
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the NFL. They play him twice a year, so the familiar,
the speed doesn't surprise them and they play to that.
And then I think, obviously the X factor is always
Josh Allen. I think I think he's one of the
best in the game, you know, top two, top three
in the game.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
And when he can play.
Speaker 12 (20:22):
A style of game for Buffalo that is just whatever
they need to win, whether it's him running last week
as Arizona this week, you know, only one touchdown, not
a lot of yards, but controlling the game.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
I think it's just hard on Miami against Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, And I think it'll get lost on how impressive
this was with Buffalo because they played great James Cook
three touchdowns if you would have said that I got
those numbers out of Josh Allen and they work convincingly
on the road. I mean, it's a really big signature
win for Buffalo. I didn't understand with eight and a
half minutes to go, two is out and they take
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out tyreekih and Jalen Waddle. Now I know they're down
twenty one, but I don't know, if Mike McDaniel said,
we're not going to win this game, let's not get
anybody hurt.
Speaker 12 (21:10):
I think that's the feeling I think especially I think
coaches and players, whoever it is, I think when you're
on the sideline and middle of the game, you get
kind of a feeling. And I think obviously when you
watch two will go down, I think you start to
read your guys of like how it's impacting them. What
are they going to do taking the field next? Are
they going to be a little too cautious? So I
think that's a feel thing for a coach, especially you're down.
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It's kind of at that point in the game, you know,
even though there's eight minutes left, I think you get
the feeling of like, hey, we just need to kind
of get out of dodge. We play on a Thursday night,
We'll get a few extra days, we'll regroup, and then
we'll go from there. I think Mike Daniel probably got
that feeling. It was like, hey, let's just end this
night and get on to the next week.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
What did you see on the two of play?
Speaker 12 (21:55):
I mean that's the you know, listening to Josh Allen
come on and say that, like that's the danger of
our sport. You know, I think you know, when you
play this sport and you decide to do that, you
know there's risk you're taking. And as much as we
watch this, it's kind of a routine play, it wasn't
one of those things.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
When I first saw it.
Speaker 12 (22:13):
I thought DeMar Hamlin's knee hit two because I've seen
concussions happen that way. But just kind of his forearm
hit him in a place that you know, they kind
of sometimes called the sweet spot or whatever, and instantly
you can see the concussion. So but really a bang
bang play and a play that which is crazy in
our sports. You can watch over and over again and
see it and nothing happens, and then that one time
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a guy gets a concussion like to and always tough
to watch. And you know, I think with Josha, you're
praying for him and trying to make a decision, praying
for him and his family, but really unfortunate to see
last night.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Can you put yourself in his shoes? You're twenty five
years of age, you think you're invincible, you just got paid.
This is the third, maybe the fourth concussion that he suffered.
Can you have the wherewithal to go. You know what,
let me think bigger picture here instead of my football career.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, I think that's where you count on your family members.
Speaker 12 (23:10):
I think it's one of those really tough conversations that
you know, I don't think can happen right now in
the moment.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I think it's you know, as the days go on,
or maybe a week goes on.
Speaker 12 (23:20):
And you're still out and you're thinking of having a
conversation and talking about what life looks like after football.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
You know.
Speaker 12 (23:26):
I think it's easier for me to say that now
after playing thirteen years and being retired, of knowing that
there's still good life at the end of football. But
when you're in the middle of it, I think about
myself when I was twenty five, or when I got
my first concussion, I think I was twenty seven years old,
and the doubts that come on your mind of going
back on the field, all of those thoughts that come
in I can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Now you're talking about three four maybe diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
So what if your.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Mom said to you, I don't want you playing football anymore.
Speaker 12 (23:57):
I think we would we would go back and forth
of me saying no, I still want to play, and
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
It's not it's not one conversation.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
It's a back and forth of you trying to balance
people in your life that are looking out for you.
But you also, like you said, you feel like you're invincible.
This is a game you love to play. It's hard
for someone to take it away from you where you
feel like you can still play.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
If you're Mike McDaniel, you're the Dolphins. You you built
this offense around Tua. These are these are quick reads.
Get the ball to your fastest guys and let them
make plays.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Here.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Can you get a quarterback who can replicate that kind
of style that Tua? If we're looking at a bigger
picture here the rest of the season, can you find
somebody like that?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You hope?
Speaker 12 (24:40):
I will say from my time being in New England
when we played them in Tua wasn't there, we usually
beat them.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
When Tua was there, they.
Speaker 12 (24:46):
Gave us a tough time and I think I don't
think I ever beat to it towards the end of
my career, so I would say it's gonna be really
hard for them. They haven't been able to do that yet,
and they've tried to do that, Teddy Bridgewater or Mike White.
They've had guys in there as backups. Hasn't worked out.
They haven't been able to run that office the way too.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Accn Sunday Night Football, you have the showdown between the
Bears and the Texans that'll be on Football Night in
America and coverage starts at seven Eastern. Non Football Night
in America the most watched weekly studio show for eighteen
consecutive years. Talking to Devin mccordy, former Patriot champion and
an analyst for Football Night in America, I wonder if
(25:24):
this is too much too soon for the Bears to
be in primetime. You know, even the Texans most of
their games were at one o'clock last year, the Bears
one o'clock. That difference as a player of playing a
game in primetime as opposed to a one o'clock game
is what.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
The timing of it? What do you do?
Speaker 12 (25:45):
Your routine changes dramatically, Especially, like you said, these are
a younger football team, So when you have a whole
season of mainly one o'clock games, you don't even know
what that other schedule looks like. So I think that's
the bigger adjustment and then I think it's just calming
down and realizing, hey, it's just another football game.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
You gotta go play it, and you got to enjoy it.
Speaker 12 (26:04):
I always felt, you know, being in New England, I
came into all of the primetime games and you got
to enjoy being the only game on. Yes, you don't
want to overhype it, but I think you got to
see it as a privilege. And you know, I think
for young guys like Jalen Johnson, who missed the top
one hundred last year and was vocal about it, these
Sunday night games of what gets everybody's attention.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You want to go play your best ball.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
So I'm looking forward to seeing both of these teams
Sunday night and who rises to the occasion and plays
their best.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
What is the common mistake rookie quarterbacks make.
Speaker 12 (26:35):
Oh, it's not fully understanding and knowing what you're seeing.
You know, you break down the film last week of
Caleb Williams. He wasn't you know, he wasn't off by
a lot and just missing thrills. I think Tennessee did
a really good job of switching up different looks. Sometimes
it was with pressure, sometimes it was just four man rushers.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
They just kept spending the.
Speaker 12 (26:53):
Dial of what we call it of coverages and rushes
so that he never could get comfortable. And I think
rookie sometimes you think, hey, I've seen this, I know it,
and then it switches on you. You just gotta have a
beginner's mindset every single play, not just every game, because
it's these defensive coaches. They can do a lot of
different things to you.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
But who did you dial into where you almost felt
bad for the rookie because they weren't what they thought
they were seeing.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
They weren't seeing.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
With the Patriots defense, did you have one of the
any did you ever feel sorry for a rookie quarterback?
Speaker 12 (27:27):
Well, we had we had them playing against the Jets.
We had Sam Darnold and we had Zach Wilson. I
always felt bad those young guys. I live in New
Jersey from New York originally. Well you're in that area, Gona,
They're gonna scrutinize everything, and we would give them a
lot of different looks and pressures that it was tough
to deal for as a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
What was your Super Bowl Troit over.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
Uh, Detroit, I was thinking Detroit over Baltimore is what
I picked early in the season.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Okay, yeah, you know it's weird though. We do have
certain teams where we don't care they do during the
regular season. It's the Cowboys. I don't care, the Ravens,
I don't care. Even the Chiefs, I don't care. It's
ye once you get to the Post's same thing with
the Patriots, with you guys, be like, it doesn't matter.
(28:15):
Once they get in, then we find out who they are,
and we find out who the Ravens and Cowboys are
in a negative way, and we find out who the
Chiefs are in a positive way. They're just certain teams
where I don't know if there's another team that you go, yeah,
let me see what they do in the postseason.
Speaker 12 (28:32):
Yeah, I mean I think those teams, I will say.
I would say Cincinnati's kind of creeping into that where,
you know, I think a lot of people feel like
because they beat you know, Kansas City that one year,
that they're like this dominant team and you know, everybody's
been saying.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
It this week. They always start slow, as if like
it's a.
Speaker 12 (28:50):
Given they're gonna get going. So I think people see them.
I don't see Cincinnati like that. But I think I
think Buffalo is in the same thing. Last year, they
didn't play out well during the regulars season, then they
somehow come back and take the AFC East. Then it
was like, all right, what are you gonna do? Now
You're gonna be Kansas City. So and I think the
Jets will be like that this year. And I'm the
last team I'll put in there as a forty nine ers.
(29:12):
We know you can get there, we know, but everybody
the only thing they care about the forty nine ers.
I think now is Ken you win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What's it like to tackle Josh Allen?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
It's Kenny for one. Ken, you tackle him, is he
gonna jump over you? Is gonna run over you?
Speaker 12 (29:29):
I mean, the guy's tough, and I hate what people
say he has to learn how to protect himself more
or do this.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, he's got to be smart as a quarterback.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
But when he gets into the secondary and there's guys
like when I was out there, I was one hundred
and ninety pounds and he's running full speed. You either
jump over him, Josh, or you run over him. And
it's fun to watch a lot more fun to watch
than it was to play against him and try to
get him down.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Great to talk to you. Have fun on Sunday night.
Thank you, Devin, appreciated. Good talk to you there, Devin mccordy.
Football Night in America, STU analyst and a three times
Super Bowl champ with the Patriots. It'll be the Bears
and the Texans coming up on Sunday Night. Once again,
I'm dealing with the football aspect of it. We can
all agree. We hope to a has a healthy life.
(30:15):
I'm not a life coach here. I hope that he
has clarity eventually to be able to do what he
wants to do, what he feels like he can do.
And if you're the Dolphin's doctor or an independent doctor
and going to clear him, he's going to have to
make a decision. You can be cleared, You're going to
have another concussion. I mean, that's just it feels like
(30:38):
it's inevitable. If you include this season, let's say two
of finishes this season, he will have made seventy four
million dollars in his career, including forty three million in
salary and signing bonuses. So the money that's on the
way from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty eight, he
has about one hundred and ninety two million dollars pending.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Seventy four is a lot of money. One two.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Once again, these are just the raw numbers that the
Dolphins are thinking about and Tua will eventually have to
think about and the salary cap. I mean, once again,
this sounds caulltosus. It's not meant to be. It's just
the reality of what we can all say the same thing.
We hope that he is better and he comes back
(31:25):
in plays. But my job is to look and advance
the story. And we'll talk to Mike Florio next hour
about what can the Dolphins do anything here? Who can
they bring in? Are they going to bring in somebody?
What role do they play into a playing or not playing?
You know, there's just there's a lot here, and you know,
(31:47):
we're trying to separate the personal feelings that people have
with this because I have to deal with the reality
of this, and that is here's the bottom line with
all of this. Well, come back, settle on a poll question.
Phone calls are always welcome back After this.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
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Speaker 2 (32:15):
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Speaker 12 (32:18):
Where's I God play?
Speaker 7 (32:20):
This is the play of the day.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Check this out.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
There's the snap and off goes to Cook and I'll
work through the middle.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Through a hole and into the secondary. Thirty twenty five
twenty ten five flips.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Into the end zone for the touchdown forty nine yards
for James Cook, his third touchdown of the game.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Bill's radio network, James Cook University of Georgia. He's the
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(33:25):
should step in and do something about this.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I don't want that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I don't I the commissioner shouldn't be playing big brother
to these teams. I don't even think they can. This
should be to a making a decision. Dolphin's making a decision,
not the NFL. The NFL is doing their best, its
best to protect these players the best they can. They
have an independent neurologist there checking you, independent because it
(33:55):
didn't used to be that way. You had team doctors
who might have had an alternative motive there to send
you back into the game. Now you have somebody who's independent,
So that is it's progress. I think they're far better
at seeing it. Sitting you down, taking away your helmet.
Didn't used to be that way. And hopefully Tua gets
(34:16):
a chance to have medical clearance and then he can
decide what he wants to do from that. I mean,
that's really the important part of this is if you
look at him as a person and his health moving forward.
But then you're going to have to look at the
harsh reality of what the Dolphins do trying to get
a quarterback, and you know, his salary, the money, the
(34:38):
salary cap, like all of these things, there's you know,
there's the range of emotions here, like, that's real life,
that's a person there. This is the football aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Seen, he just signed that deal, I know, like six
weeks ago something like that.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, good grief.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's a two hundred and twelve million dollar contract. Chad
Johnson said, you have to understand they just paid to it.
They paid him a lot of money because he's the
future of the franchise and the quarterback in order for
them to contend. He has to be at the helm
to do that. Okay, So a driving force to get
(35:20):
Tua back on the field despite the dangers associated with that.
I get it. It's a business, but hopefully you're able
to separate. The Dolphins got to do what's best for
the Dolphins publicly, you got to do what's best for Tua.
But they also are running a business, and I think
(35:40):
that's where you're going to have the disconnect. Are you
doing what's best for you, the team, Tua all the above?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, Paully, we're talking about the football side of this.
Speaker 13 (35:51):
I was surprised to see Skyler Thompson as the backup
to start this season. If you look at it, he
proved last year that he's averaged a non threat NFL quarterback.
You know, a team like the La Rams, they have Garoppolo.
I know he's suspended, but he's a guy who's played
in big situations and can fill in. It feels like
the Dolphins had no plan or no contingency for a
(36:12):
guy who could get hurt easily.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
And getting a quarterback who plays a similar style because
you can have a backup quarterback like Ryan Tannehill would be,
you know, a good luxury to have as a backup quarterback.
But he's not going to play the way Tua does
with that offense. A couple of phone calls in here,
Buddha and San Francisco leads us off.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Good morning, Buddha, no buddy.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Happy to meet Friday boys. Let's go bringing a little
levity here. Dan, I'm just I'm just calling in to
check in on the Minister of Humor. He sounded extremely
dour or Doer yesterday. I don't know which one. I mean.
Doer is a Scotch, Dan, I don't know it's dour. Yeah,
but DP, what a great week of shows, great guests,
(37:03):
Jim Harball coming on with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
The Big Shane Irving identity reveal, and this Sunday morning
has a lot to live up to considering what happened
last Sunday morning. My goodness, and as far as me
and Marvin's niners, I'm buying CMC a plane ticket to
Cabo and I'm gonna say we'll see you in November. Son.
(37:25):
And you know, Dan, the tho twa thing, like it's
so tricky, like the nature. It's the nature in which
he suffers the concussions, Like the optics is not good,
like the like the collision wasn't some crazy malicious hit.
It was in everyday play and we watch people get
hit like that all the time during games. And you know,
(37:45):
by all accounts, he's such a good ass dude. And
I just think life is too short, and you know,
it's just it's a it's a big risk to get
back on the football field and suffer damage. Just I
feel bad, man, It's I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Thank you, Buddha.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I can't imagine what that feeling is going to be
like in the house with his family. And you have
a real hard discussion here, and then you might have
a real hard, tough discussion with the Dolphins as well.
I know it's down the road. But this is the
reality of what this is right now. Josh and Washington, Hi, Josh.
Speaker 11 (38:28):
Hey, how's we go on?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Guys? Hey, Bud?
Speaker 11 (38:31):
Hey. So I think, as a person who's got five
on paper concussions myself due to football related injuries, I
don't think to a walk. These guys aren't bred to
go fifteen years and reach the pinnacle and then some
head injuries knock them out. Like Larry Fitzgerald said a
few years back, they'd rather people go for their heads
than go for their knees. That's what took me out
(38:52):
was a broken femur in a tornycl So I don't
think he walks. I think he sticks it out. I
think he walked to stay planned.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Well, I'm sure he wants to. But then you also,
they're going to be people who are going to have
to be grown ups and say, let's look at this
long term when you're twenty five. We all did things
at twenty five that we would never even think about doing.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
But at twenty five, you.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Know, you're just you don't have anything else, no kids, no,
you know, your pressure is your job and being with
the Dolphins and being the quarterback and you just got
paid and you don't want to let your teammates down.
I mean, there's going to be a range of emotions
that we will have no idea what two is feeling,
but he is going to feel some of these. The
(39:41):
question is when you have what's the doctor say? What
to multiple doctors say? Because I wouldn't just listen to one,
I would go to a couple of them. And then
let's look at this from a pragmatic standpoint here, because
all of us are going to say the same thing.
You gotta go back it you got all that money,
(40:03):
or you're going to be like, he's got to retire.
You know, the former football players. The number of former
football players who came out right after Tony Gonzalez he
should retire. Okay, I don't want to jump to that conclusion.
Tony Gonzalez is forty five. Two is twenty five. If
somebody said to Tony when he if he suffered three
(40:25):
or four concussion, you got to retire, he would have said,
you're crazy or shut up. It's how old these players are.
But the former players are the ones who came out
and were really vocal right away. That to me was
a little more surprising, but that will tell you when
you're playing. You don't want somebody to tell you when
(40:47):
you're not playing. You love telling other players what to
do or not to all right, One hour in the books,
two more to go. We'll talk to Mike Florio about
this now. He also has some more information on dis
Sean Watts and situation with the Cleveland Browns. Are the
Browns looking to get out from underneath this contract? And
did they know about this latest civil lawsuit? Well, check
(41:11):
in with the Dolphins. There's going to be a press
conference coming up at ten o'clock with Mike McDaniel. We'll
listen to see and hear what he has to say
if he can update us any further.
Speaker 13 (41:23):
So.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
One hour in the books, two more to go. On
this meet Friday, the Minister of Humor is looking feeling
sounding a whole lot better. Seaton, Marv Pauli, and yours truly,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Yeah, Ston, it's
funny about you and pesto.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
That was one of the first things that I quickly
learned about you was like this dude loves pesta.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yes, it's always.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Eating it and over the years. But you lots of
like different presents or like little things here and there
or whatever. And I was once driving past a farm stand,
I think in either New Hampshire or Vermont, and they
had little tiny jars of pesto yep. And so I
bought you one and brought it back and gave it
to you, and it like moved you. This is the
nicest thing you've ever bought me.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, And it was a tiny jar petzo. Yes, this
is the nicest thing you've ever bought me. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
It was a little like I don't even know how
to describe, like eight ounce jar of peto.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know what happened. I was reading Thank You so Much.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I was reading Sports Illustrated years ago before I met
my wife, and I think Dwight Evans of the Red
Sox would have pesto before every home game. And so
I say to my wife, who's part of Italian I said, honey,
can you make pesto? And she goes yes, And I said,
could you make me some pesto? And you know I
(02:46):
put her on the pasta. It changed my life, and
I said, this is unbelievable. So fell in love with pesto.
Reading a Sports Illustrated article on Dwight Evans, and I
believe his gamed ay meal at home was with pesto.
All right, we'll have a poll question, Play of the Day,
stat of the Day. You can always join us eight
(03:07):
seven to seven three DP show. Devin mccordy works for
Football Night in America. Won some Super Bowls with the Patriots.
Former defensive back will join us coming up. Mike Florio
from Pro Football talk more on what Deshaun Watson could
be facing, but we start with the Bills rolling the Dolphins.
Now I'll get to Tua and his injury in a moment.
I just want to focus on the game. This is
(03:29):
a sports show, the game itself. When Tua was healthy,
the Dolphins were getting rolled by Buffalo, and I know
they'd had their moments where they could have scored a
touchdown maybe to make it a ten point game. And
then all of a sudden, they take out Tyreek Hill
and Jalen Waddell with eight minutes to go. Skyler Thompson
comes in and Buffalo goes there. And I said, this
(03:54):
was a must win, must ish win for the Dolphins
perception wise, win this game, even with a healthy Tua.
He threw a pick six, he had another interception that
wasn't his fault, but did not look good. Tyreek Hill
got shut down. I mean, if I'm Buffalo, Josh Allen
didn't have a great game, but he didn't need to.
(04:17):
James Cook was great, and they were able to dominate
the Miami Dolphins. So if you said Josh Allen is
going to throw for less than one hundred and fifty
yards and he's going to rush for less than fifty
yards and be like in they won, Yes, And that
was before you had the injury to Tua. James Cook
had three touchdowns there toa throws three interceptions and then
(04:40):
he suffers the concussion in the third quarter. Here was
the call on that play with two a tongue, I
loa to.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Out of the shotgun back to throw, looking pressure is
gonna run with it at the five eight yard behind
him it puts his head down and gets folence down
at the sixth and he looks big Joe.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Oh boy.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Then he had to run.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
He wasn't sure, so instead of sliding once he got there,
he picked up a couple extra yards.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's a great effort. But well this is it's not good.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
No, it's not Goodvil is up walking slowly off the field.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
However, you knew it right away.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But if you look at the play, he lowers his
head and he runs into DeMar Hamlin of all people,
and Tua initiates the contact there, but it's not a
helmet to helmet and then you know it's one of
those situations where you go, what's he thinking? But players
they react, it's instinctive. Should he be out there running
(05:40):
lowering his head. No, he survived all last year, no concussions.
Twenty twenty two. We know what happened there.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
If I go back to the twenty twenty two NFL season,
that was Week three Sunday one o'clock game when he
was injured against the Buffalo Bills. Clearly he had a concussion, clearly,
but they said that it was his back. The official injury,
if you go back and look at that, it says
(06:09):
that he suffered a back injury. The injury report was
never listed as a concussion. Okay, Four days later against
the Bengals Thursday night, concussion and it's a nationally televised game,
and then inactive for Week five and six. Then he's cleared,
and then a day before the Week six game, but
(06:32):
he was held out of that game as well. The
day after the Week sixteen loss to the Packers, that's
Christmas Day, National TV once again goes into the concussion protocol.
He had symptoms there. Two days later, Tua it's confirmed
had a concussion and he was ruled out of Week
(06:53):
seventeen and eventually week eighteen. So that's two concussions. He
wasn't clear to return to practice since entering the concussion protocol.
For the Dolphins. In the wild card playoff matchup, he
was held out of that as well, and that was
the dolphins last game of the year. Now you say, okay,
that's three concussions. To me, it's four concussions. And I
(07:16):
know this. This gets tricky. Even last night, and the
first thing I thought of when I saw two a
walk off the field. As strange as this is going
to sound, but this is what I thought. Heinz Ward
told me when the Steelers played the Ravens, he went
across the field and he got his bell rung. He
knew that he was concussed. He gets to his feet
(07:38):
and he started limping. He said he thought that if
he could limp, maybe they would not rule him out
with a concussion. When Two is coming off the field,
he starts limping, and I'm wondering if in that moment
he's thinking, how do I stay in the game. They
didn't even take him to the blue tent. They took
him to the locker room and that's when I realized
(08:01):
that this was going to be serious again.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I know that he took jiu jitsu. He was learning
how to fall.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
And as I've said before, you can learn how to fall,
but that doesn't mean the person tackling you is going
to help.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You with you learning how to fall. And last year
went well.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But also if you look at the Dolphins offense, it's
predicated on to a not being back seven yards. It's quick.
That's why you got two of the fastest receivers in football.
If you're going to go eighty yards with a touchdown
pass from Tua, chances are he threw it fifteen yards
and then you took it sixty five. It's very It's
(08:38):
a timing aspect there, and they were not on the
same page last night. You know, Kirk Kurbstreet was saying that.
Herbie said, you know something's wrong here. They were not
in synchronicity and it's all about timing there. And now
you have Skyler Thompson the backup quarterback. That's not the
style that he plays. And you know I did think
(08:59):
about that as well. Where I'm going, Okay, you know
you have somebody who has at least had a couple
of concussions. Yes, you did give him that big contract.
Everybody's holding their breath. But if something happens like this
could be to his last game this year, and it
could put an end to the Dolphins trying to be
a playoff team this year. I mean, that's the harsh
(09:21):
reality of this. And then we're going to talk to
Mike Florio next hour about salary cap ramifications, and look,
I'm trying to be as sensitive as possible, but my
job is still to look at this through the lens
of sports. The team salary cap quarterbacks who could be available. Yes,
do I like to meet his family at the super
(09:44):
Bowl in Miami? Yes, always been friendly to us. I
hope the best for him. I'm not here to say
he should retire. But here's the tricky part with this.
If he is medically cleared and he decides he doesn't
want to play, there's a chance that all that guaranteed
(10:05):
money will not be guaranteed. So imagine if you're the
doctor who's going to either clear him or not clear
him if he decides, you know what, I want to
have a long life here and I'm not going to play.
Or if he is cleared, then and you're more susceptible
to concussions after you've had a concussion. But this is
(10:27):
what we've talked about even when he got the big contract,
Like I'm like, I wouldn't have given him the contract
because of this. It would make me nervous. And I
know he played so well last year and the last
person who should be lowering his head and taking on
contact he initiated contact is toua and that's why do
(10:53):
the best you can. But you can't really protect a
player from himself. Instinctively, he's trying to get a first
down there, and it was sad because you want to
see these players be great. He is a great story.
You know, the injury suffered in college. You know, the
Dolphins took a big chance on him, they passed on
(11:13):
other quarterbacks. Then you get Mike McDaniel coming in. He
brings in his offense. They're explosive, they're exciting, Tyreek Kill,
Jalen Wonnell obj, They're ready to go, and then this
happens and it's sad. It really was. It was sad
to watch it last night. Here is Mike McDaniel, the
Dolphins head coach, on to his injury.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
I think it's important to approach each and every situation
to the you know, much like approach every injury with it,
which is basically, all right, we're going to handle this
particular situation with this particular player. You know, every situation
(11:57):
is unique to its own, So you know, I think
I think.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
There's for me.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
I'm not worried about anything that's out of my hands
in terms of I'm just worried about the human being.
And you know, he'll drive the drive the ship when
we get the appropriate information.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
But it's day by day health.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
He's clearly shook. You can hear he's struggling to find
the words. What do you say? How do you spin
this in a positive way? But you know, the Dolphins
are going to have to have football decisions to make,
and here we are, it's week two.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Tua, with the help of family friends, a doctor is
going to have to.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Have a decision to make football wise as well his future.
And I know there are a lot of people on
social media said he should retire. I said that before,
but you know, I'm not the one out there. He's
the one who probably thinks, you know, I can still
make this work. It's all it takes is one play,
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one moment. And it didn't seem like it was going
to be something that led to this. He initiated the
contact he lowered his helmet, he didn't, he didn't connect
with DeMar Hamlin's helmet. He initiated this went to the ground,
and I mean he ran into DeMar Hamlin's shoulder, his bicet,
(13:28):
and as soon as he lowered his head, I go, oh,
like I didn't think he would be concussed, But I'm like,
what is he shouldn't be lowering his head And then
he's down and then his teammates knew exactly what was
going on, and then they surrounded him. So the cameras
or people in the audience in the stadium wouldn't know
what's going on. But when you see whether hands and
(13:49):
arms are stiff, I mean it's scary. That is scary,
and everybody you know we're trying to perfect the helmet.
The helmet doesn't protect the brain. It protects the skull.
It doesn't protect the brain. But to a I don't
know what the timeline would be with anything, and I
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don't even want to speculate with that. I just want
to deal with what is the football aspect of this.
We all went to it to be healthy. We hope
that he gets to play again. But my job is
also to look at what the bottom line is here.
What do the Dolphins do now? Do they bring back
Ryan Tannehill? Can you get somebody who plays a similar
style to Tua because that's what the offense is built around.
(14:35):
To Skyler Thompson, they didn't look like they had confidence
in him to run that offense. Even when they get
down inside the five, they were running the football. They
weren't going to let him pass. I don't know if
you reach out to the Rams Jimmy Garoppolo has been
suspended to you say hey, you know, we'll give you
(14:55):
whatever I mean. You guys are ready to go now.
This team is ready to go.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You got the Jets, you got the Bills. You know
the Patriots might be a little more competitive. But prior
to the trade deadline, can you go out there and
get somebody in Saldvat your season is too going to
be able to come back? Do the Dolphins want him
to come back? Does he want to come back? So
there's a lot of things in play here other than
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it is a concussion and it's a nationally televised game.
I can't over emphasize that enough when we see it.
If this is a one o'clock game. It resonates differently
with people. You're watching it, and everybody has, you know,
some kind of opinion on this, former players saying he
should retire. Let's get the medical diagnosis. Now you get
(15:45):
your bell rung. This isn't his third concussion or fourth concussion.
Chances are he's had numerous concussions. It used to be
when I was growing up, my brothers would play football
and they would get their bell rung. That's like, oh,
got your bell rung. Yeah, we'll get back out there.
(16:06):
But they were suffering concussions. We just kind of.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Softened it a little bit. You got your bell rung? Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Would we have Troy Polamalu? I said, how many concussions?
He goes, I'll tell you when I'm done playing football,
But he said, I think he got his bell rung
over a hundred times. Just do the math with this,
and if your Tua, his family, those around him, it's
(16:36):
a lot of money. But you want to live. You
want to live a life because do you know what happens.
I don't know how many people are checking on Jack
Lambert today the way he played for the Steelers, or
Mike Singletary, the way he like these players play, they
give everything and then they go and then we move
(16:57):
on from them, like Bob's and the way he played
for the Colts. See, that's what would worry me, because
we just kind of chew you up, spit you out.
Another guy comes in and we move on, and then
all of a sudden we see Earl Campbell in a
wheelchair and we go, look at Earl Campbell. But when
he was playing, we loved it. Love you Blue, all right.
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Here is Josh Allen and The Bill's quarterback talking about
the injury that Tua suffered.
Speaker 10 (18:32):
If you know too outside of football, like you do,
like I do, you can't help but feel for him.
He's a great football player, but he's an even greater
human being. He's one of the best humans on the planet.
Speaker 11 (18:44):
You know.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
I got a lot of love for him, and I'm
just praying for him and his family and hoping everything's okay.
But yeah, it's a it's tough, man. This is this
game of football that we play. It's got it ties,
and it's got its lows, and that's definitely one of
the lows.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And you have to compartmentalize.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I'm guessing as an athlete that you don't think it'll
happen to you. You see it happen, you know it
can happen.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Josh Allen plays a physical style of football, as physical
as any quarterback and has to think at some point
this could be happening to me. And with Tua lowering
his head initiating contact, and now the question is when
he's going to be cleared, some decisions are probably going
to have to be made. He's Devin Mccording, former defensive back,
(19:27):
won three Super Bowls with the Patriots, now works for
Football Night in America. I'll get to Tua's injury in
a moment, Devin, but let's look at the game itself.
Let's say Tua was healthy and they lost this game.
What would we be saying about the Miami Dolphins and
their approach to the Buffalo Bills last night?
Speaker 12 (19:46):
We would be saying the same thing we've been saying
over the last few years. They just can't get over
to hump with Buffalo. I think Buffalo's defensive scheme at
how they play against Miami's high powered offense of let's
keep two safeties deep, let's keep everything in front of us,
Let's force you to drive the field on a ten
to twelve play drive has been the formula, and I
think they've executed it probably better than any team in
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the NFL. They play him twice a year, so the familiar,
the speed doesn't surprise them and they play to that.
And then I think, obviously the X factor is always
Josh Allen. I think I think he's one of the
best in the game, you know, top two, top three
in the game.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
And when he can play.
Speaker 12 (20:22):
A style of game for Buffalo that is just whatever
they need to win, whether it's him running last week
as Arizona this week, you know, only one touchdown, not
a lot of yards, but controlling the game.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
I think it's just hard on Miami against Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, And I think it'll get lost on how impressive
this was with Buffalo because they played great James Cook
three touchdowns if you would have said that I got
those numbers out of Josh Allen and they work convincingly
on the road. I mean, it's a really big signature
win for Buffalo. I didn't understand with eight and a
half minutes to go, two is out and they take
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out tyreekih and Jalen Waddle. Now I know they're down
twenty one, but I don't know, if Mike McDaniel said,
we're not going to win this game, let's not get
anybody hurt.
Speaker 12 (21:10):
I think that's the feeling I think especially I think
coaches and players, whoever it is, I think when you're
on the sideline and middle of the game, you get
kind of a feeling. And I think obviously when you
watch two will go down, I think you start to
read your guys of like how it's impacting them. What
are they going to do taking the field next? Are
they going to be a little too cautious? So I
think that's a feel thing for a coach, especially you're down.
(21:33):
It's kind of at that point in the game, you know,
even though there's eight minutes left, I think you get
the feeling of like, hey, we just need to kind
of get out of dodge. We play on a Thursday night,
We'll get a few extra days, we'll regroup, and then
we'll go from there. I think Mike Daniel probably got
that feeling. It was like, hey, let's just end this
night and get on to the next week.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
What did you see on the two of play?
Speaker 12 (21:55):
I mean that's the you know, listening to Josh Allen
come on and say that, like that's the danger of
our sport. You know, I think you know, when you
play this sport and you decide to do that, you
know there's risk you're taking. And as much as we
watch this, it's kind of a routine play, it wasn't
one of those things.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
When I first saw it.
Speaker 12 (22:13):
I thought DeMar Hamlin's knee hit two because I've seen
concussions happen that way. But just kind of his forearm
hit him in a place that you know, they kind
of sometimes called the sweet spot or whatever, and instantly
you can see the concussion. So but really a bang
bang play and a play that which is crazy in
our sports. You can watch over and over again and
see it and nothing happens, and then that one time
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a guy gets a concussion like to and always tough
to watch. And you know, I think with Josha, you're
praying for him and trying to make a decision, praying
for him and his family, but really unfortunate to see
last night.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Can you put yourself in his shoes? You're twenty five
years of age, you think you're invincible, you just got paid.
This is the third, maybe the fourth concussion that he suffered.
Can you have the wherewithal to go. You know what,
let me think bigger picture here instead of my football career.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, I think that's where you count on your family members.
Speaker 12 (23:10):
I think it's one of those really tough conversations that
you know, I don't think can happen right now in
the moment.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
I think it's you know, as the days go on,
or maybe a week goes on.
Speaker 12 (23:20):
And you're still out and you're thinking of having a
conversation and talking about what life looks like after football.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
You know.
Speaker 12 (23:26):
I think it's easier for me to say that now
after playing thirteen years and being retired, of knowing that
there's still good life at the end of football. But
when you're in the middle of it, I think about
myself when I was twenty five, or when I got
my first concussion, I think I was twenty seven years old,
and the doubts that come on your mind of going
back on the field, all of those thoughts that come
in I can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Now you're talking about three four maybe diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
So what if your.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Mom said to you, I don't want you playing football anymore.
Speaker 12 (23:57):
I think we would we would go back and forth
of me saying no, I still want to play, and
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
It's not it's not one conversation.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
It's a back and forth of you trying to balance
people in your life that are looking out for you.
But you also, like you said, you feel like you're invincible.
This is a game you love to play. It's hard
for someone to take it away from you where you
feel like you can still play.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
If you're Mike McDaniel, you're the Dolphins. You you built
this offense around Tua. These are these are quick reads.
Get the ball to your fastest guys and let them
make plays.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Here.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Can you get a quarterback who can replicate that kind
of style that Tua? If we're looking at a bigger
picture here the rest of the season, can you find
somebody like that?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You hope?
Speaker 12 (24:40):
I will say from my time being in New England
when we played them in Tua wasn't there, we usually
beat them.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
When Tua was there, they.
Speaker 12 (24:46):
Gave us a tough time and I think I don't
think I ever beat to it towards the end of
my career, so I would say it's gonna be really
hard for them. They haven't been able to do that yet,
and they've tried to do that, Teddy Bridgewater or Mike White.
They've had guys in there as backups. Hasn't worked out.
They haven't been able to run that office the way too.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Accn Sunday Night Football, you have the showdown between the
Bears and the Texans that'll be on Football Night in
America and coverage starts at seven Eastern. Non Football Night
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consecutive years. Talking to Devin mccordy, former Patriot champion and
an analyst for Football Night in America, I wonder if
(25:24):
this is too much too soon for the Bears to
be in primetime. You know, even the Texans most of
their games were at one o'clock last year, the Bears
one o'clock. That difference as a player of playing a
game in primetime as opposed to a one o'clock game
is what.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
The timing of it? What do you do?
Speaker 12 (25:45):
Your routine changes dramatically, Especially, like you said, these are
a younger football team, So when you have a whole
season of mainly one o'clock games, you don't even know
what that other schedule looks like. So I think that's
the bigger adjustment and then I think it's just calming
down and realizing, hey, it's just another football game.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
You gotta go play it, and you got to enjoy it.
Speaker 12 (26:04):
I always felt, you know, being in New England, I
came into all of the primetime games and you got
to enjoy being the only game on. Yes, you don't
want to overhype it, but I think you got to
see it as a privilege. And you know, I think
for young guys like Jalen Johnson, who missed the top
one hundred last year and was vocal about it, these
Sunday night games of what gets everybody's attention.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You want to go play your best ball.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
So I'm looking forward to seeing both of these teams
Sunday night and who rises to the occasion and plays
their best.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
What is the common mistake rookie quarterbacks make.
Speaker 12 (26:35):
Oh, it's not fully understanding and knowing what you're seeing.
You know, you break down the film last week of
Caleb Williams. He wasn't you know, he wasn't off by
a lot and just missing thrills. I think Tennessee did
a really good job of switching up different looks. Sometimes
it was with pressure, sometimes it was just four man rushers.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
They just kept spending the.
Speaker 12 (26:53):
Dial of what we call it of coverages and rushes
so that he never could get comfortable. And I think
rookie sometimes you think, hey, I've seen this, I know it,
and then it switches on you. You just gotta have a
beginner's mindset every single play, not just every game, because
it's these defensive coaches. They can do a lot of
different things to you.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
But who did you dial into where you almost felt
bad for the rookie because they weren't what they thought
they were seeing.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
They weren't seeing.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
With the Patriots defense, did you have one of the
any did you ever feel sorry for a rookie quarterback?
Speaker 12 (27:27):
Well, we had we had them playing against the Jets.
We had Sam Darnold and we had Zach Wilson. I
always felt bad those young guys. I live in New
Jersey from New York originally. Well you're in that area, Gona,
They're gonna scrutinize everything, and we would give them a
lot of different looks and pressures that it was tough
to deal for as a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
What was your Super Bowl Troit over.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
Uh, Detroit, I was thinking Detroit over Baltimore is what
I picked early in the season.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Okay, yeah, you know it's weird though. We do have
certain teams where we don't care they do during the
regular season. It's the Cowboys. I don't care, the Ravens,
I don't care. Even the Chiefs, I don't care. It's
ye once you get to the Post's same thing with
the Patriots, with you guys, be like, it doesn't matter.
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Once they get in, then we find out who they are,
and we find out who the Ravens and Cowboys are
in a negative way, and we find out who the
Chiefs are in a positive way. They're just certain teams
where I don't know if there's another team that you go, yeah,
let me see what they do in the postseason.
Speaker 12 (28:32):
Yeah, I mean I think those teams, I will say.
I would say Cincinnati's kind of creeping into that where,
you know, I think a lot of people feel like
because they beat you know, Kansas City that one year,
that they're like this dominant team and you know, everybody's
been saying.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
It this week. They always start slow, as if like
it's a.
Speaker 12 (28:50):
Given they're gonna get going. So I think people see them.
I don't see Cincinnati like that. But I think I
think Buffalo is in the same thing. Last year, they
didn't play out well during the regulars season, then they
somehow come back and take the AFC East. Then it
was like, all right, what are you gonna do? Now
You're gonna be Kansas City. So and I think the
Jets will be like that this year. And I'm the
last team I'll put in there as a forty nine ers.
(29:12):
We know you can get there, we know, but everybody
the only thing they care about the forty nine ers.
I think now is Ken you win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What's it like to tackle Josh Allen?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
It's Kenny for one. Ken, you tackle him, is he
gonna jump over you? Is gonna run over you?
Speaker 12 (29:29):
I mean, the guy's tough, and I hate what people
say he has to learn how to protect himself more
or do this.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, he's got to be smart as a quarterback.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
But when he gets into the secondary and there's guys
like when I was out there, I was one hundred
and ninety pounds and he's running full speed. You either
jump over him, Josh, or you run over him. And
it's fun to watch a lot more fun to watch
than it was to play against him and try to
get him down.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Great to talk to you. Have fun on Sunday night.
Thank you, Devin, appreciated. Good talk to you there, Devin mccordy.
Football Night in America, STU analyst and a three times
Super Bowl champ with the Patriots. It'll be the Bears
and the Texans coming up on Sunday Night. Once again,
I'm dealing with the football aspect of it. We can
all agree. We hope to a has a healthy life.
(30:15):
I'm not a life coach here. I hope that he
has clarity eventually to be able to do what he
wants to do, what he feels like he can do.
And if you're the Dolphin's doctor or an independent doctor
and going to clear him, he's going to have to
make a decision. You can be cleared, You're going to
have another concussion. I mean, that's just it feels like
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it's inevitable. If you include this season, let's say two
of finishes this season, he will have made seventy four
million dollars in his career, including forty three million in
salary and signing bonuses. So the money that's on the
way from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty eight, he
has about one hundred and ninety two million dollars pending.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Seventy four is a lot of money. One two.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Once again, these are just the raw numbers that the
Dolphins are thinking about and Tua will eventually have to
think about and the salary cap. I mean, once again,
this sounds caulltosus. It's not meant to be. It's just
the reality of what we can all say the same thing.
We hope that he is better and he comes back
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in plays. But my job is to look and advance
the story. And we'll talk to Mike Florio next hour
about what can the Dolphins do anything here? Who can
they bring in? Are they going to bring in somebody?
What role do they play into a playing or not playing?
You know, there's just there's a lot here, and you know,
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we're trying to separate the personal feelings that people have
with this because I have to deal with the reality
of this, and that is here's the bottom line with
all of this. Well, come back, settle on a poll question.
Phone calls are always welcome back After this.
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Through a hole and into the secondary. Thirty twenty five
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should step in and do something about this.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I don't want that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I don't I the commissioner shouldn't be playing big brother
to these teams. I don't even think they can. This
should be to a making a decision. Dolphin's making a decision,
not the NFL. The NFL is doing their best, its
best to protect these players the best they can. They
have an independent neurologist there checking you, independent because it
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didn't used to be that way. You had team doctors
who might have had an alternative motive there to send
you back into the game. Now you have somebody who's independent,
So that is it's progress. I think they're far better
at seeing it. Sitting you down, taking away your helmet.
Didn't used to be that way. And hopefully Tua gets
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a chance to have medical clearance and then he can
decide what he wants to do from that. I mean,
that's really the important part of this is if you
look at him as a person and his health moving forward.
But then you're going to have to look at the
harsh reality of what the Dolphins do trying to get
a quarterback, and you know, his salary, the money, the
(34:38):
salary cap, like all of these things, there's you know,
there's the range of emotions here, like, that's real life,
that's a person there. This is the football aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Seen, he just signed that deal, I know, like six
weeks ago something like that.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, good grief.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's a two hundred and twelve million dollar contract. Chad
Johnson said, you have to understand they just paid to it.
They paid him a lot of money because he's the
future of the franchise and the quarterback in order for
them to contend. He has to be at the helm
to do that. Okay, So a driving force to get
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Tua back on the field despite the dangers associated with that.
I get it. It's a business, but hopefully you're able
to separate. The Dolphins got to do what's best for
the Dolphins publicly, you got to do what's best for Tua.
But they also are running a business, and I think
(35:40):
that's where you're going to have the disconnect. Are you
doing what's best for you, the team, Tua all the above?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, Paully, we're talking about the football side of this.
Speaker 13 (35:51):
I was surprised to see Skyler Thompson as the backup
to start this season. If you look at it, he
proved last year that he's averaged a non threat NFL quarterback.
You know, a team like the La Rams, they have Garoppolo.
I know he's suspended, but he's a guy who's played
in big situations and can fill in. It feels like
the Dolphins had no plan or no contingency for a
(36:12):
guy who could get hurt easily.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
And getting a quarterback who plays a similar style because
you can have a backup quarterback like Ryan Tannehill would be,
you know, a good luxury to have as a backup quarterback.
But he's not going to play the way Tua does
with that offense. A couple of phone calls in here,
Buddha and San Francisco leads us off.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Good morning, Buddha, no buddy.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Happy to meet Friday boys. Let's go bringing a little
levity here. Dan, I'm just I'm just calling in to
check in on the Minister of Humor. He sounded extremely
dour or Doer yesterday. I don't know which one. I mean.
Doer is a Scotch, Dan, I don't know it's dour. Yeah,
but DP, what a great week of shows, great guests,
(37:03):
Jim Harball coming on with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
The Big Shane Irving identity reveal, and this Sunday morning
has a lot to live up to considering what happened
last Sunday morning. My goodness, and as far as me
and Marvin's niners, I'm buying CMC a plane ticket to
Cabo and I'm gonna say we'll see you in November. Son.
(37:25):
And you know, Dan, the tho twa thing, like it's
so tricky, like the nature. It's the nature in which
he suffers the concussions, Like the optics is not good,
like the like the collision wasn't some crazy malicious hit.
It was in everyday play and we watch people get
hit like that all the time during games. And you know,
(37:45):
by all accounts, he's such a good ass dude. And
I just think life is too short, and you know,
it's just it's a it's a big risk to get
back on the football field and suffer damage. Just I
feel bad, man, It's I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Thank you, Buddha.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I can't imagine what that feeling is going to be
like in the house with his family. And you have
a real hard discussion here, and then you might have
a real hard, tough discussion with the Dolphins as well.
I know it's down the road. But this is the
reality of what this is right now. Josh and Washington, Hi, Josh.
Speaker 11 (38:28):
Hey, how's we go on?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Guys? Hey, Bud?
Speaker 11 (38:31):
Hey. So I think, as a person who's got five
on paper concussions myself due to football related injuries, I
don't think to a walk. These guys aren't bred to
go fifteen years and reach the pinnacle and then some
head injuries knock them out. Like Larry Fitzgerald said a
few years back, they'd rather people go for their heads
than go for their knees. That's what took me out
(38:52):
was a broken femur in a tornycl So I don't
think he walks. I think he sticks it out. I
think he walked to stay planned.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Well, I'm sure he wants to. But then you also,
they're going to be people who are going to have
to be grown ups and say, let's look at this
long term when you're twenty five. We all did things
at twenty five that we would never even think about doing.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
But at twenty five, you.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Know, you're just you don't have anything else, no kids, no,
you know, your pressure is your job and being with
the Dolphins and being the quarterback and you just got
paid and you don't want to let your teammates down.
I mean, there's going to be a range of emotions
that we will have no idea what two is feeling,
but he is going to feel some of these. The
(39:41):
question is when you have what's the doctor say? What
to multiple doctors say? Because I wouldn't just listen to one,
I would go to a couple of them. And then
let's look at this from a pragmatic standpoint here, because
all of us are going to say the same thing.
You gotta go back it you got all that money,
(40:03):
or you're going to be like, he's got to retire.
You know, the former football players. The number of former
football players who came out right after Tony Gonzalez he
should retire. Okay, I don't want to jump to that conclusion.
Tony Gonzalez is forty five. Two is twenty five. If
somebody said to Tony when he if he suffered three
(40:25):
or four concussion, you got to retire, he would have said,
you're crazy or shut up. It's how old these players are.
But the former players are the ones who came out
and were really vocal right away. That to me was
a little more surprising, but that will tell you when
you're playing. You don't want somebody to tell you when
(40:47):
you're not playing. You love telling other players what to
do or not to all right, One hour in the books,
two more to go. We'll talk to Mike Florio about
this now. He also has some more information on dis
Sean Watts and situation with the Cleveland Browns. Are the
Browns looking to get out from underneath this contract? And
did they know about this latest civil lawsuit? Well, check
(41:11):
in with the Dolphins. There's going to be a press
conference coming up at ten o'clock with Mike McDaniel. We'll
listen to see and hear what he has to say
if he can update us any further.
Speaker 13 (41:23):
So.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
One hour in the books, two more to go. On
this meet Friday, the Minister of Humor is looking feeling
sounding a whole lot better. Seaton, Marv Pauli, and yours truly,
Hosts And Creators
Dan Patrick
Paul Pabst
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Marvin Prince
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