September 21, 2023 • 45 mins
Dan talks about the the focus that will land on the Chicago Bears this weekend after Justin Fields put his foot in his mouth yesterday. And college football insider Andy Staples drops by to preview the weekend and weigh in on Deion Sanders' latest comments.
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
Sunday Night TG. What in the.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Steelers take on Jimmy Garoppolo and the Raiders Sunday seven
Eastern on NBC and Peacock uh see poll question what
I don't I don't even remember what we had for our.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
One as we go into our two.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
See you try not to take too much offense to that,
but Okay, more to blame for the Bear struggles the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The coaches are the organization.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, yes, now I remember, yeah, boom, it's all coming
back to being.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, Yeah, you wanted to guess who's finishing last in
that Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Who is most to blame the organization, the quarterback or
the coaches.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm going to say the quarterback is third on that list.
The coaches are third on that list.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh well, then the quarterback the organization is getting seventy
one percent.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Congratulations, cultural problem.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yes, if you take away the eighty five Bears, oh god, no.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I follow this thread, then follow this okay.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Please if you're looking at all the sports and you
take away one championship team, like, is there any other
organization that would flounder more be more inept than the
Chicago Bears Cubs.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I think the Bears won the World Championship in like
sixty two or sixty three or something before as the
Super Bowl, the Cubs went a hundie plus. Okay, so
it's like a they're emeritus the Bears in the Cubs
with this okay topic.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It feels like the former Chicago Bears cash in on
the Bears winning a Super Bowl more than the Chicago
Cubs cash in on winning.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
A World Series.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, but if you take away that one super Bowl, man,
they're the Detroit Lions, right right?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Wow, sorry, but they are They even have like, well,
they had that great running back and.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, they They've had two of the greatest running backs
of all time. They've had one of the greatest defensive
players of all time, and and you know with Dick
Budkus and Gail Sayers and then Walter Payton. Then they
had the magic for that one year and then the
next year they could have been great again. I think
McMahon got hurt, but that's about it. If I had pockets.
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And speaking of pockets, Justin Fields he wants to get
out of the pocket and run a little bit there,
and apparently that's a little bit of a problem. So
there was a fire started yesterday and Justin Fields played
a role in this because he was talking about well
here is his comment yesterday talking about the coaching staff
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and what's gone wrong so far.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I felt like, you know, I wasn't necessarily playing my game.
I felt like I was kind of robotic and not
playing like myself. My goal this week is just to
say effid and just go out there and play football.
How I know how to play football. That includes thinking
lesson just going out there and playing up with instincts
rather than just so much sort of say info in
my head, died in my head, and literally just going
out there playing football, because that's when you know I
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play my best is I do. I'm just out there
playing free and I being myself.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, Then the reporter follows.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Up, what do you think thinking less? What do you
think was causing you to think so much?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I think much could be coaching.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
They're doing their job when they're giving me what's a
look at and stuff like that. But at the end
of the day, I can't be thinking about that when
the game comes. I prepare myself throughout the week, and
then when the game comes, it's it's time to play
free at that point, so, you know, just thinking less
and you know, playing more.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I don't know if Justin Fields is a passing quarterback.
Do I think he can be a dual threat? Yes,
But this is when it's supposed to crystallize, for this
is where the game slows down. This is where you
can process things and there are a couple of clips
that I saw of Justin Fields against Tampa Bay, where
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I'm thinking, what are you not seeing that I'm seeing?
And the camera angle is behind Justin Fields. You're seeing
the defense, You're seeing players that are open, and he's
holding and holding and holding. Today's NFL, today's college, today's
high school, it's get it, read it, go throw. Maybe
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you go through progressions, maybe you go through two, and
then you go. Because most of these guys are taking
advantage of the opportunity to be able to run. Justin
Fields and this is what happens with rookie quarterbacks C J. Stroud,
Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Hold, stare down your receiver, hold
the ball, hold the ball, stare down your receiver. We're
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in year three now. You have to be better than this.
And I don't know if Justin Fields is. He's a
tremendous athlete, but that doesn't necessarily make you a great quarterback.
And I don't know why he can't look at what
Lamar Jackson is doing. And Anthony Richardson said, you know,
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he looks up to Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson's like, man,
I feel old now, but Justin Field should be looking
at Lamar Jackson, when do you run? How often do
you run? And how many progressions do you go through?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
There?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And Lamar has a really good tight end and a
really good wide receiver that helps him justin fields. At
some point you run out of excuses because what was it.
I don't have an offensive line, he doesn't really have
any skilled position. Guys, you doesn't have a wide receiver. Okay,
you brought in a wide receiver. They traded the number
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one overall pick. They drafted linemen, Like you're running out
of excuses because if the Chicago Bears are a six
win team this year, let's say justin fields, rushes for
eight hundred yards, maybe throws for twenty two hundred yards,
and you have the number one pick in the draft, Now,
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what are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You're going to have two picks probably in the top ten.
What are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Because that's a likely scenario right now? And I think
what happened and the media bought into the possibility of
the Bears that division's up for grabs justin fields with
what he did, and everybody saw the highlights. And I
always tell people I can make a lot of people
look really good like Hall of Famers if I just
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show you the highlights, watch a game, and then you
get the true sense of how good somebody is. Instead,
you know, you go, oh my god, did.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You see that play? Yeah? Did you see the other plays?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah? Not good?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But you have those moments there and it felt like
nobody's watching the Bears, I mean unless you have to.
But Justin Fields had those moments last year. He was
made for Sports Center or the NFL highlight shows. But
not passing, like do you remember where you go?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Man? Did he carve them up?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
With his legs. And that's why.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Maybe the coaches have played a role here. Maybe they're
tr trying to make him a pocket passer and he's
just not. And we're going to find out. You got
the Kansas City Chiefs. What's the game plan? How does
it change? Because after this game, I want to hear
Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hear Patrick Mahomes. I don't care about Travis Kelce and
Taylor Swift right now? Chris Jones coming back?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
What?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well? Okay, I do we all care? I do care?
You have a fever?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I apologics? Maybe I care too much? Sorry, I wasn't
going to leave. Maybe I care too much. I'm going
into New York this weekend and I'm just going to
walk around the Soho area and just you know, see
if Taylor is around. I don't know, maybe she's on
tour back again. She's been out. She's been going to
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some restaurants that I'm aware of, but she's been going
out with girlfriends. And then Travis Kelsey has a game obviously,
so maybe maybe she'll she'll be at the game. That'd
be fun, all right, I digress.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yes, Pa, you were comparing fields and Jalen Hurts. If
you go to Jalen Hurts, this is what we thought
Hurts was gonna be. You see the pro prospect reviews
of Hurts, like, well, he'll never be a great passer.
He's gonna be one of those guys who's a high
end backup who helps your team, a team first player.
But he's basically a running back who threw some. At Oklahoma,
there was a lot of doubt about Jalen Hurts, and
Jalen Hurts in his third season, He's always been a runner.
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He ran for seven hundred yards his second year. He
ran for seven hundred yards last year, but his third year,
Jalen Hurts became a real passer. Like he threw for
almost four thousand yards last year, twenty two touchdowns, six picks,
and ran for seven hundred yards. Fields is in the
year year three.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't know if Jalen Hurts is a great passing quarterback.
I think he's a great quarterback. I think he does
whatever you need him to do in the moment. But
he's got really good wide receivers. And here's the key.
You got a really good offensive line. You start there.
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You got a chance to be a good pocket passer.
They protect you. You've got some good good players, You've
got some dangerous wide receivers. You got a running game,
and he has the ability.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
To run as well.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
See put all of that together, and that's where you
get an elite quarterback or elite quarterback play. But you know,
teams are gonna try their best to make him one
dimensional and make him beat you with his arm, just
like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Can he beat you with his arm? Yes?
Speaker 8 (10:27):
Mark, Now I'm really rooted for Justin Field's and the Cubs.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
The win.
Speaker 8 (10:31):
Cubs, the Bears the win. They're playing like Cubs. If
Justin Fields wins see, I told you guys, it was
the coaching. See you let me be me. We'll win
some games.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I'm sure there's gonna be people who are gonna say
that if it would happen, that they would somehow win this.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Game, just because I just want all hell to break loose.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The Giants in forty nine ers have played each other
thirty four times in the regular season. You know what
the record is of the Giants and the Niners in
the regular season. If you said seventeen and seventeen, you'd
be correct. The teams have also met eight times in
the postseason. If you said both teams won four games,
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you would be right.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, Oh oh god, that stat of the day? Stat
of the day?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Here comes that?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What stat of the day?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Did you give me a pull question for hour or
two seaton and I didn't listen? Again, you know, I
don't believe I did.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Okay? All right, I don't believe I did okay.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Do we do an offshoot of the current poll question
and say who's more to blame for yesterday's story, the
media or the quarterback justin Fields?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I would say, well, Todd, you had some I would
say the media played a role because it didn't. They
didn't put the quote in context. They just put it
in quotations where he was asking, you know, he his
explanation for why he believes that way, and they went coaching.
They didn't add anything to that. So I'd say the
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media played a role in this. He didn't help. Like
his role was to diffuse it. He didn't do a
great job with that. So I'd say probably start.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
With the media.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Always blame the media, right, these those guys, the media,
they're looking clicks, looking for clicks.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And then when Justin Field says, yeah, you know, I'm
not blaming my coaches.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You guys just looking for clicks. Hmm. Didn't sound like
you were blaming your coaches. That could be the coaching,
you said, yeah, direct quote, I know, I said, it
could have been a setting. Yeah. No, no, you said,
you said, do you.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Have any idea why this is happening? And your initial
reaction was to say coaching.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
Marvin when he clarifies his comments, I just I just
want to play what he says first.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I love this, Okay, I love you guys. I love
you guys, But like what yeah, yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
It's like Seaton said, it was like Oh, it's doing
pretty well. No no, no, no, no, he's doing pretty well. No no, no, no,
it's almost like you need the pr person goes, eh,
we're done.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yes, half and in half? Yeah, half and then half.
It's what I tell Fritzy all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Never been more appropriate than cut it in half and
then cut it in half.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm not gonna take.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
Any more football questions, and thank you all for coming up.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (13:27):
Hey, good morning, mister Patrick, to you and the boys,
especially just seating there and my brother in the Bud,
I just wanted to say I just want to call
and say thank you guys. I've been listening since before
Matt Harvey was honoring Paul Calm, and this morning I
was enjoining unexpected day off, listening to some yacht rock
thanks to you guys, and enjoying some of Missouri's finest
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when Kiss on My List came on and I felt
inspired to call in uh so again. I just wanted
to say thank you guys. You've been a part of
my life every morning for such a long time. And
Marvin you are such a great addition to the show.
And Dan you personally, thank you for inspiring a vinyl
collection of my own that my wife and I have
started collecting. If you don't have it, By the way,
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Traveler Chris Apleton one of the best vinyls. That man's
voice is made for vinyl.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 10 (14:20):
Just want to end it in saying I'm sorry Marv
wu tang forever and I'll due respect to Polly. I
love you guys, but sew.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Wow makes up a little bit suckod front road. But
he was praising how great you've been Marvin.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You met me.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
That just means you how bad Paul is in that
guy's eyes that he just drags Marvin down. He's been great,
it's been great, but Paul just really thanks him.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Sorry, Mark, Michael and fort Wayne him Mike, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 11 (14:51):
Good morning, Dan, Thanks for taking my call. I've got
one comment and an unrelated question for you. Tomorrow is
meet Friday, and so I'm going to go ahead and
put an end to the splander that started last week
of potatoes before it happens again. Last week, potatoes were
inexplicably disrespected because they get dressed up and thus compared
to Brussels sprouts, Comparing potatoes to Brussels sprouts is like
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saying Julia Roberts and Et the Extraterrestrial are similar because
they both warn't a dress. The feelings of the two
are not at all comparable. Okay, and then, finally, on
an unrelated note, as I'm sure you remember the day's
the twenty first night of September. What are the odds
you hit the post coming out of a break today?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh? If I did September by Earth Wind and Fire,
you know, maybe I saved that for tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I just love that.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
A week later he had to tell you the potato disrespect.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, thank you, Michael, thank you.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Yes, what mar Maybe you should do it today. By tomorrow,
I think I'm gonna do boy Band Friday. We're talking
about in sync possibly doing the super Bowl. Hey, whatever
song you guys, mention it, you guys, send it to me,
I'll play it.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Okay, So boy Band Friday, boy, this is a great
day for Fritzie.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That's excellent. Yeah, yeah, he loves That's.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
What I thought.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It was tearing up my.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
No, no, no, no, you can just say the song. Yeah,
how about we let them sing it? I did this
to Fritzie one time, I said, oh, you heard this song?
And then you know, I said, who's who sings his song?
And then Fritzie started singing it. I go, no, why
don't we let them sing it? I don't want you
to sing it. I didn't ask you this opportunity to perform. Yeah,
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who sings this? Oh? Backstreet? Why don't you let them
do that?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Time? No, No, we're not going to do that. We
don't do that. Don't do that, not anymore backstreets?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Dad, Right, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I was just watching it. I was watching a video yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Fritzie is on the couch in the New York City
man cave singing to uh christ So Christy Tagan is
lying on top of Fritzy and then you're singing John
Legend's song all of Me Loves all of You and
You're your rendition was terrible.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It was not very It was terrible. Yeah, what a.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
Special time to be alive for me at that but.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Not half Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But Chrissy Teagan, she was laying on top of you,
and then she started singing the song to you speakable,
I guess because you were doing such a terrible job.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But she took over and sang it to you.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Yeah, sometimes I gotta take one for the team like that.
You're like, really, I gotta have Chris gotta tell.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Me whatever that really happened.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, in retrospect, that may have been her most questionable
decision in the last ten years.
Speaker 12 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I don't know if she's been on since then. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Remember she came in and she was dressed like an elf.
She had a skirt on, and she was putting ornaments
up on the tree.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
There was a period of time where like she knew us.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, yeah, like we were important in her life, Like
she was cool.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
She was like friend of the show. They got real
famous though, yeah, they do, they got super famous.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
Yeah, now this published as agents managers involved, you can't
send her that little email and say hey, come on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. Our good buddy
Andy Staples will join us. We'll talk about Dion Sanders,
the game against Oregon, and also what's going on in Tuscaloosa,
because it feels like there's something going on and it's
not good for Nick Saban. He talked about name, image
and likeness last year and Boosters needed to step up
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a little bit. Is he getting ni eld by everybody else,
and I find that interesting. He's still searching for a quarterback,
and he's got this game against Lane Kiffin coming up
this weekend. We'll talk a little college football, we'll visit
the Chicago Bears later on this hour, and we'll get
to more phone calls as well. We're back after this
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FSR or stream us live on the Peacock App. I
saw this note third in short Carolina Panthers can't use
their quarterback sneak because Bryce Young.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Is too small.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
He's five ten two o four. Andy Dalton came in
on those plays, So isn't that interesting He's too small
to do what Jalen Hurts does with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Does that.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Kind of makes sense because they're pushing a guy and
they're crunching them up, and he's slight in comparison to
like Jalen Hurtz or fields.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, but I just figured it was everybody's move in
the pile. I feel like I could get two yards
behind the Eagles offensive line, and Andy, because you're tall
and you're bigger, you get to go in for a
couple of plays. First time he goes in, I think
they had a false start. All right, let me bring
in Andy Staples covers college football for the website on
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three Sports. We've been talking about Justin Fields. Take me
back to his last year at Ohio State. Was there
any real question about him being a pocket passer at
the next level.
Speaker 13 (21:26):
There were always those questions because the late Dwayne Haskins
had had some of the same issues coming out of
a similar offense, and it was but you saw Justin
it was more about reading the defense and about what
he was asked to do in that offense. And I
think that's been sort of a complaint about Ohio State
quarterbacks under Ryan Day. Joe Burrow was there but then
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left to go to LSU was running a different offense
at LSU. I think that's that's gonna be the question
until one of them kind of breaks out and becomes
a success in the NFL. Is are they not asked
to do the things that they need to do? And
the other just obvious thing with Ohio State quarterbacks. Their
receivers are so much better than everyone else. There's a
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different kind of open at Ohio State than somewhere else.
Like I'll give you an example, brock Purty's receivers at
Iowa State weren't nearly as open as Justin Field's receivers.
That so brock Purty had to learn to fit it
in there. Justin Fields for the most part, had somebody
wide open.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But there's been that knock on Alabama quarterbacks for years
that hey, anybody can quarterback at Alabama. You have all
those great receivers, but we are getting good quarterbacks coming
out of there. Well, at least we had what happened
with Alabama with this year.
Speaker 13 (22:45):
With these quarterbacks, either they've missed on some haven't developed
the ones they have, or both. Because you know, you're right,
it used to be, oh Greg McElroy, AJ mcchaeron, Jacob Coker,
it doesn't matter, you just put it in there. There's
so much more talented than everybody else. All they have
to do is not make mistakes. But as other teams
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got as talented as Alabama and you had to deal
with the Clemsons and all that, you did have to
have a more talented quarterback, and that's what Alabama did.
They changed the way they recruited the quarterback position. They
went more dual threat, and they had a historic Think
about this, the Jalen Hurts to a tongue of Iloa
mac Jones and Bryce Young in succession. There's not going
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to be a team in college in twenty years that
has that run, that kind of run, and so I
think we got a little spoiled with that. And we
also got a little spoiled with them having really dynamic receivers.
I mean, you think about when they had Jalen Waddell,
Davonte Smith, Henry Ruggs, and Jerry Judy all at the
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same time. That's just unfair. It's what Ohio State does
everybody now, but it's also not possible to do year
after year after year.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
A year.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It was a year ago where Nick Saban kind of
complained about him nil and he was talking to his boosters.
He's basically saying, look, we gotta we gotta outspend Texas
A and M A and M hasn't cashed in on this,
but Alabama, like what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
They it's you know, is it transfer portal NIL.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
They're not taking advantage of either one of those like
other other schools.
Speaker 13 (24:28):
No, I don't think it's that because when they've needed
to get somebody in the transfer portal, like Jamison Williams
a couple of years ago, they did okay, and so
they've been able to spot recruit out of the portal NIL.
If they tell their donors, hey, instead of rebuilding the
weight room, we'd like you to donate to NIL, they'll
do it. They'll do whatever they need to do. But
I do think the market in general has changed. And
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you know, Andy Schwartz was an economist who worked with
the plaintiffs in Obanon versus the n Cuba and wrote
this back back then and said, Hey, if all this
stuff were to come to be, you'll see the talent
spread out more. And I think you're seeing that. I
mean in the class of twenty twenty four. Dan, here's
a good example. The number one defensive lineman in the
country is going to Missouri. He's from Missouri. Missouri has
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a state law that allows you to start cashing in
on NIL deals September of your senior year of high school.
So this sort of thing is changing the dynamics. The
transfer portal is also changing it because remember, if you
want to play in the NFL, Matt Castle aside, you
got to play in college. So you're not going to
sit the bench at Alabama or Ohio State or Clemson
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or wherever for three years waiting when you can go
somewhere and star right away, and oh, by the way,
they'll give you an NIL deal.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
But this so this isn't a case of Alabama's slipping
as much as others are moving up up the ladder.
Speaker 13 (25:50):
Where Alabama's different. I think one, they can't select as
well as they could like it used to be, they
could get anybody they wanted. The moment Kirby Smart went
to Georgia, that changed. The other thing that's happening with
Alabama is the bench of assistant coaches is not that deep.
Remember Nick Saban was losing assistance left and right, but
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always seemed to have somebody ready who was either in
that Nick Saban witness relocation program that Mike Loxley always
joked about, or had worked there before, gone somewhere else
and was coming back. Well, this time, they didn't have that,
like when Bill O'Brien went to the Patriots. They didn't
have an OC just ready to pull up, which is
exactly what Georgia did this year when they lost Todd
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Mnkin to the Ravens. So they had to go do
a national search. They talked to Brian Rubbitt Washington, they
talked to other people, and they end up hiring Tommy
Rees for Notre Dame. But Tommy Rees had never worked
with Nick Saban before. We don't know how well they
worked together in the past. Nick Saban has usually picked
somebody he has already worked with and knows exactly what
he's going to get out of.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Is there any fallout if Clemson and or Alabama don't
make the playoffs this year?
Speaker 13 (27:00):
There's any fallout In turn of it, Clemson is probably
going to have to rethink the way they do some things,
because while Alabama has adjusted to the changes in college sports,
Clemson has it. Dablas Sweeney has not wanted to use
the transfer portal. I think the first time he used
it was last year to get Hunter Johnson, who is
a quarterback at Northwestern who had been a quarterback at Clemson,
so he's basically just bringing him back. They have not
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filled holes nearly as well, because they have not wanted
to use the transfer portal because Dado doesn't believe in that. Well,
he's probably going to have to start believing in it.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, we're talking to Andy Staples. He covers college football
ats on three Sports Colorado. These next two weekends. How
important are these two games for just this season, well,
maybe for the entire program moving forward.
Speaker 13 (27:50):
Well, I think they're very important, but it's more about
how you show up. It's not necessarily if you win.
If you win either one of these games, it is awesome.
They will be the biggest story in sports if they
can beat Oregon this weekend. But if they can compete
with Oregon this weekend, that should tell you they're going
to be a monster in the next year or so.
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Because when you revamp a roster the way they did
wholesale changes, you can get skill players out of the portal,
but it's very hard to find big guys in the portal,
and Oregon has really good players up front both lines
of scrimmage. If they can hang with what they have,
they'll be able to get better big guys this next year,
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and all of a sudden, they'll be competitive with anybody. Now,
I went into the season before, I saw them play,
thinking this is a game where they're just going to
get their doors blown off, and it may happen because
they don't have Travis Hunter. But I've been really impressed
with the way they've played schematically. Sean Lewis, the offensive coordinator,
was a good head coach at Kent State. He's done
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a good job taking advantage of what they do have
and hiding what they don't. If they can keep doing that,
I think they could be really good in the coming years.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And then they've got USC at home after that. But
I'm wondering once again USC lacking defense. They certainly have offense,
but are they a Final four team with just an
offensive minded team.
Speaker 13 (29:17):
I think they're better defensively. This year they went out
and got some guys out of the portal. I remember
I said there's not a lot of good big guys
available in the portal, but USC tends to draw the
ones that are, and they got a guy named Bear
Alexander from Georgia to play defensive tackle. They got Anthony
Lucas from Texas A and M who plays on the
d line as well, body types that USC just didn't
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have before, and most teams in the Pac twelve that
aren't Oregon or Utah don't have so I do think
they're going to be considerably better defensively. We'll see when
they play Colorado, when they play Notre Dame, but I
suspect they're better than they were last year.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Speaking of Notre Dame, they got Ohio State. How impactful
is this game?
Speaker 13 (29:59):
It's huge. I was talking to Mike Gullick, Junior, who
played center for the Irish when they played for a
national title in twenty twelve. He said, this feels bigger
than any of those games. I was talking to some
people at Notre Dame. They said, this feels like the
biggest game since USC came in five on that campus.
And so this is this is huge because they got
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Sam Harton out quarterback, which feels like the piece they've
been missing, the thing that allows that offense to be
more explosive. They just haven't had that in the last
few years. So if you can beat in Ohio State,
you can absolutely beat anybody in the country. And I
do think with this schedule, if they split Ohio State
and USC and are a competitive in the one they lose,
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they could still make the fourteen playoff at eleven to one.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Have a great weekend, Andy, always great to catch up
with you.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Thank you, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
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Speaker 1 (33:42):
For NBC Sports Chicago.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
He joins us, Now, boy, you had a day yesterday there, Josh,
When did you know that it was a mess when
you showed up at the facility.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I'd say about ninety seconds after Justin Fields took the
podium and it was clear that he had a lot
of things on his and a lot of things to say,
and things just snowball from there. They just kept going
until about seven o'clock at night. So it was a
bizarre and very weird day at Househall in one that
will probably define this team.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
But I wonder about the tweet that was sent out
and it stopped with just he blames coaching, and then
we didn't add anything else to that tweet, so we
had to wait to really find out the context of that.
If you flip it around where he takes blame and
then he mentions the code like it just felt like
(34:32):
if he handled it differently, then this isn't a big deal.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Do you agree that? I agree.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
I think Justin is a very smart kid, and I
think he clearly went to the podium yesterday with an
idea of what was being said about him and how
things are going, and he wanted to get out in
front of some of the issues. And he starts with
it could be coaching and then proceeds to say it's
also on me. But look, he was very critical of
the staff, and I think he meant what he said.
(34:59):
He was direct, confident he didn't torch them. And I
think he went to the practice field and then got
off and saw everyone just running with the one thing
and was like, wow, okay, I need to backtrack because
it's a quarterback's unwritten law that I don't just come
out and last everyone. So he wants to make it
clear that he does blame himself, but everything he said
he meant.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Okay, But if you look at this situation, how do
you troubleshoot this? If you're the Bears front office, coaching
staff and Justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Well, I think they could have helped themselves a lot
if they had understood their personnel better. Like a job
of a good coordinator and a good coach is to
know your player's strengths and to game plan around what
they do best, not game plan around what you want
to do. And anyone who's watched the Bears to the
first two games can tell you that's not the offense
they should be running. That's not the offense that made
Justin special last year. So that's where they could have started,
(35:49):
and that was about two months ago. But as of now,
they need to scrap everything. They need to scrap the
Aaron Rodgers esque offense that Lukeetzi wants to run, and
they need to listen to it, Justin saying and just
do what he does best. Four quarterback design runs in
two games is not nearly enough. They've really cobwebed the
vertical passing game except the two drives they scored against Tampa.
(36:11):
They need to do what this offense was built to do.
They told us it's built around mobility, it's built around
vertical passing, and then they just completely disregarded all of
that for the first two weeks. That have made Justin
think too much and play pretty poorly, and he owns
some of that blame. But they need to scrap everything.
They need to scrap the game plan, and they need
to do what makes him comfortable because that's the only
way they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
But the big question is still going to be can
he beat you from the pocket? Right when it's all
said and done, he was a curiosity. It was fun
to watch they don't win. But are you okay with that?
If you're a Chicago Bear fan, would you rather just
be entertaining and maybe you're not gonna win games? Or
can you try to? Are they trying to make him
something that he's not, Therefore you're gonna lose games either way?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Justin says they're not. I think what he was getting
at yesterday was what he's good at and what they
want him to do do not align at the moment,
and they need to find a way to mesh the two.
He's he's not trying to say I don't want to
play from the pocket, But what he's saying is I
don't want to just stand there like they're telling me
to do and go one, two, three, pause, wait, make
sure it's good, and then get out. I need to
(37:16):
still play free and right now he's thinking way too
much because he wants to do everything that they tell
him to do by to a tee and that's just
that's not going to work at this level. Dan, Like,
it's clear against the Bucks, he was freezing, his brain
was locking up, and it led to a lot of mistakes.
He missed open receivers. He admitted the strip sack was
that was what happened. Right. He's like, I would have
been out of there last year, but I'm just trying
(37:37):
to do what they're telling me. So they need to
figure out a way to get him to play from
the pocket, but also utilize that athleticism and they need
to roll the pocket. They need to not make it
so hey everything is just straight, drop back behind a
bad offensive line and try to make it work.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, because there were a couple of reads against Tampa
Bay where you're going, I got two guys open, Yeah,
and he was freezing, yep.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
But he might just be one.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
He might be like Cam Newton that you just say, look,
do it how you need to do it, for as
long as you can do it. And then we saw
what happened. Cam fell off a cliff, he couldn't play anymore.
He got him to a Super Bowl. But I you know,
and I was just talking to Andy Staples, who covers
college football, and he said, you know, there were questions
(38:23):
about Justin Fields when he was in college at Ohio State,
that you didn't have to do much because your receivers
are so good. Ryan Day, offensive minded head coach, and
you know you're not reading as much. Now in the NFL,
you do have to go through your progressions or at
least most of the elite quarterbacks. And then you have
Kansas City coming up this weekend. It just feels like
(38:45):
this is Justin Fields is going to put on the
cape and go out there and try to be Justin
Fields of last year.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Yeah, And honestly, at this point, Dan, the offensive line
is so banged up and they're making so many mental
mistakes offensively, the receivers are running the wrong routes, they're
standing next to each other, The only way this is
gonna even have a chance to be successful on Sunday
against a team that's much more talented than there both sides.
The vaut is for Justin to just be superman like
he was last year and try to will them to
(39:13):
thirty points. I think your point about you know, Cam Newton, Yeah,
I mean that might end up being what Justin is.
I think he's been putting a horrible spot to start
his career. He's had no continuity. He's had you know,
Matt Naggy, now Luke Getzi, and no one's engineered anything
around him. You think about what Greg Roman did with
Lamar Jackson right where it was like, okay, let's just
(39:34):
let's just package what you do well will make you successful.
You win an MVP, And now Todd Munkin's building on that.
That gotten him weapons and he was able to progress
as a quarterback. Justin's not had any of that. And
I mean, honestly, things are things are spiraling right now
for the Bears, And like I said, it kind of
reeks of Naggy Trubisky two point zero right where Mitch
got binched and and then he came out and started
(39:55):
talking freely about the scheme issues and how he was uncomfortable,
and to Justin's he knows this is this is his
career and he has to get out in front of
this and say, hey, yeah, I'm playing bad. Part of
it's on me, part of it's because I'm just doing
what I'm told and it needs to change.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
And he had all of this unfolding and then your
defensive coordinator resigns yesterday. Do we have any more information
on why he decided to step away for his health
and to be with his family.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
The situation remains incredibly murky. It was even murkier yesterday
when the Bears released a one line statement that said
he resigned Dan. I mean, you know, even when people
fire executives or coaches, it's always we thank you for
your service, we appreciate the time. You'll be a you know,
a Bear for life. It was none of that. It was, hey,
he's gone, so something else is going on. I think
(40:45):
of them health, because it was just health and family.
They would have wished him well and said, you know,
he can come back anytime if he wants, and that's
clearly not the case.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
They've already taken him off the website.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I mean they're they're scrubbing any any remnants of him,
distancing themselves and just the rumors that are out there.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Yeah, I mean that's the where were The only reason
we know he resigned is because of those rumors and
social media, because otherwise the Bears were really content on
keeping it. Hey, we don't have an update. He's not
here for now.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Great appearance, Josh, thanks for joining us. Have fun today,
I always do, Dan, Thank you, Josh Shrock, Bears Insider,
NBC Sports Chicago. Yeah, I think you get a team.
All you wanted is a team that has some kind
of storyline. There, give me some drama.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Hey, we're really good or we're really bad. That's all
you want.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
If you're going to be a beat writer, beat reporter,
local radio, just give me something now.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
The Bears gave you that.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Congratulations Jim in Ohio, Hi Jim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (41:49):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (41:50):
First of all, I want to thank you for coming
to Cincinnati for the book signing.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yep.
Speaker 12 (41:57):
We I think everybody enjoyed your humor and stories. I
want to first of all, I want to clear up
something that I have a quick question for you. I'm
the one that drew that caricature. Oh yeah, oh, and
I did not intentionally make you look like Anderson Cooper
and Harry. I didn't have a lot of time to
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get that ready. I usually take a couple of weeks
to think about it. Get you out. So I would
like to redeem myself and send another one. This time
I want to include the Dan Atson.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
All right, sure, yeah, I got lipstick on.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I look like Harry Carey and Anderson Cooper if they
had a child.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And I have bright red lipstick on.
Speaker 12 (42:42):
Well, I have to redeem myself because that was not
my intention. Whatsoeber and I do like you. I've been
following sports for fifty years. My four favorite broadcasters. You're
one of them. So I do admire your job and
what you have brought to the sport.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Well, thank you, Jim. I appreciate that. I think I
might be fourth top four though. Yeah you made it.
Yeah that's Mount Rushmore. Yeah I got.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Four yeah, yeah, mayb. Who do you think the other
three are?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I don't know. Don't you want to? Yes? You do?
Speaker 12 (43:17):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Jim? Is Jim still there? Okay? Real quickly? Who are
your other three? Jim?
Speaker 12 (43:26):
Marty Brenneman, red announcer, Harry Carey, Pat Hughes, Uh yeah,
and you oh.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Okay, all right, well, thank you, thank you, Jim. That's
good company right there.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
So Pat Hughes does the cubs, and then Marty Brennan
Hall of Famer, and then Harry Carey.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
That is good company. Yeah, good for you, Dan, Thank you,
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
If Anderson Cooper and Harry Carey had a child, that's me.
And wait, you guys are going to get a portrait
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Sunday Night TG. What in the.
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Eastern on NBC and Peacock uh see poll question what
I don't I don't even remember what we had for our.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
One as we go into our two.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
See you try not to take too much offense to that,
but Okay, more to blame for the Bear struggles the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The coaches are the organization.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, yes, now I remember, yeah, boom, it's all coming
back to being.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, Yeah, you wanted to guess who's finishing last in
that Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Who is most to blame the organization, the quarterback or
the coaches.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm going to say the quarterback is third on that list.
The coaches are third on that list.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh well, then the quarterback the organization is getting seventy
one percent.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Congratulations, cultural problem.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yes, if you take away the eighty five Bears, oh god, no.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I follow this thread, then follow this okay.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Please if you're looking at all the sports and you
take away one championship team, like, is there any other
organization that would flounder more be more inept than the
Chicago Bears Cubs.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I think the Bears won the World Championship in like
sixty two or sixty three or something before as the
Super Bowl, the Cubs went a hundie plus. Okay, so
it's like a they're emeritus the Bears in the Cubs
with this okay topic.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It feels like the former Chicago Bears cash in on
the Bears winning a Super Bowl more than the Chicago
Cubs cash in on winning.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
A World Series.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, but if you take away that one super Bowl, man,
they're the Detroit Lions, right right?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Wow, sorry, but they are They even have like, well,
they had that great running back and.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, they They've had two of the greatest running backs
of all time. They've had one of the greatest defensive
players of all time, and and you know with Dick
Budkus and Gail Sayers and then Walter Payton. Then they
had the magic for that one year and then the
next year they could have been great again. I think
McMahon got hurt, but that's about it. If I had pockets.
(03:14):
And speaking of pockets, Justin Fields he wants to get
out of the pocket and run a little bit there,
and apparently that's a little bit of a problem. So
there was a fire started yesterday and Justin Fields played
a role in this because he was talking about well
here is his comment yesterday talking about the coaching staff
(03:36):
and what's gone wrong so far.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I felt like, you know, I wasn't necessarily playing my game.
I felt like I was kind of robotic and not
playing like myself. My goal this week is just to
say effid and just go out there and play football.
How I know how to play football. That includes thinking
lesson just going out there and playing up with instincts
rather than just so much sort of say info in
my head, died in my head, and literally just going
out there playing football, because that's when you know I
(04:00):
play my best is I do. I'm just out there
playing free and I being myself.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, Then the reporter follows.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Up, what do you think thinking less? What do you
think was causing you to think so much?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I think much could be coaching.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
They're doing their job when they're giving me what's a
look at and stuff like that. But at the end
of the day, I can't be thinking about that when
the game comes. I prepare myself throughout the week, and
then when the game comes, it's it's time to play
free at that point, so, you know, just thinking less
and you know, playing more.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I don't know if Justin Fields is a passing quarterback.
Do I think he can be a dual threat? Yes,
But this is when it's supposed to crystallize, for this
is where the game slows down. This is where you
can process things and there are a couple of clips
that I saw of Justin Fields against Tampa Bay, where
(04:48):
I'm thinking, what are you not seeing that I'm seeing?
And the camera angle is behind Justin Fields. You're seeing
the defense, You're seeing players that are open, and he's
holding and holding and holding. Today's NFL, today's college, today's
high school, it's get it, read it, go throw. Maybe
(05:10):
you go through progressions, maybe you go through two, and
then you go. Because most of these guys are taking
advantage of the opportunity to be able to run. Justin
Fields and this is what happens with rookie quarterbacks C J. Stroud,
Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Hold, stare down your receiver, hold
the ball, hold the ball, stare down your receiver. We're
(05:31):
in year three now. You have to be better than this.
And I don't know if Justin Fields is. He's a
tremendous athlete, but that doesn't necessarily make you a great quarterback.
And I don't know why he can't look at what
Lamar Jackson is doing. And Anthony Richardson said, you know,
(05:51):
he looks up to Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson's like, man,
I feel old now, but Justin Field should be looking
at Lamar Jackson, when do you run? How often do
you run? And how many progressions do you go through?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
There?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And Lamar has a really good tight end and a
really good wide receiver that helps him justin fields. At
some point you run out of excuses because what was it.
I don't have an offensive line, he doesn't really have
any skilled position. Guys, you doesn't have a wide receiver. Okay,
you brought in a wide receiver. They traded the number
(06:27):
one overall pick. They drafted linemen, Like you're running out
of excuses because if the Chicago Bears are a six
win team this year, let's say justin fields, rushes for
eight hundred yards, maybe throws for twenty two hundred yards,
and you have the number one pick in the draft, Now,
(06:48):
what are you going to do?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You're going to have two picks probably in the top ten.
What are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Because that's a likely scenario right now? And I think
what happened and the media bought into the possibility of
the Bears that division's up for grabs justin fields with
what he did, and everybody saw the highlights. And I
always tell people I can make a lot of people
look really good like Hall of Famers if I just
(07:17):
show you the highlights, watch a game, and then you
get the true sense of how good somebody is. Instead,
you know, you go, oh my god, did.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
You see that play? Yeah? Did you see the other plays?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah? Not good?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But you have those moments there and it felt like
nobody's watching the Bears, I mean unless you have to.
But Justin Fields had those moments last year. He was
made for Sports Center or the NFL highlight shows. But
not passing, like do you remember where you go?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Man? Did he carve them up?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
With his legs. And that's why.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Maybe the coaches have played a role here. Maybe they're
tr trying to make him a pocket passer and he's
just not. And we're going to find out. You got
the Kansas City Chiefs. What's the game plan? How does
it change? Because after this game, I want to hear
Justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hear Patrick Mahomes. I don't care about Travis Kelce and
Taylor Swift right now? Chris Jones coming back?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
What?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well? Okay, I do we all care? I do care?
You have a fever?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I apologics? Maybe I care too much? Sorry, I wasn't
going to leave. Maybe I care too much. I'm going
into New York this weekend and I'm just going to
walk around the Soho area and just you know, see
if Taylor is around. I don't know, maybe she's on
tour back again. She's been out. She's been going to
(08:43):
some restaurants that I'm aware of, but she's been going
out with girlfriends. And then Travis Kelsey has a game obviously,
so maybe maybe she'll she'll be at the game. That'd
be fun, all right, I digress.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yes, Pa, you were comparing fields and Jalen Hurts. If
you go to Jalen Hurts, this is what we thought
Hurts was gonna be. You see the pro prospect reviews
of Hurts, like, well, he'll never be a great passer.
He's gonna be one of those guys who's a high
end backup who helps your team, a team first player.
But he's basically a running back who threw some. At Oklahoma,
there was a lot of doubt about Jalen Hurts, and
Jalen Hurts in his third season, He's always been a runner.
(09:19):
He ran for seven hundred yards his second year. He
ran for seven hundred yards last year, but his third year,
Jalen Hurts became a real passer. Like he threw for
almost four thousand yards last year, twenty two touchdowns, six picks,
and ran for seven hundred yards. Fields is in the
year year three.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't know if Jalen Hurts is a great passing quarterback.
I think he's a great quarterback. I think he does
whatever you need him to do in the moment. But
he's got really good wide receivers. And here's the key.
You got a really good offensive line. You start there.
(09:58):
You got a chance to be a good pocket passer.
They protect you. You've got some good good players, You've
got some dangerous wide receivers. You got a running game,
and he has the ability.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
To run as well.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
See put all of that together, and that's where you
get an elite quarterback or elite quarterback play. But you know,
teams are gonna try their best to make him one
dimensional and make him beat you with his arm, just
like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Can he beat you with his arm? Yes?
Speaker 8 (10:27):
Mark, Now I'm really rooted for Justin Field's and the Cubs.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
The win.
Speaker 8 (10:31):
Cubs, the Bears the win. They're playing like Cubs. If
Justin Fields wins see, I told you guys, it was
the coaching. See you let me be me. We'll win
some games.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I'm sure there's gonna be people who are gonna say
that if it would happen, that they would somehow win this.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Game, just because I just want all hell to break loose.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The Giants in forty nine ers have played each other
thirty four times in the regular season. You know what
the record is of the Giants and the Niners in
the regular season. If you said seventeen and seventeen, you'd
be correct. The teams have also met eight times in
the postseason. If you said both teams won four games,
(11:12):
you would be right.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, Oh oh god, that stat of the day? Stat
of the day?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Here comes that?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What stat of the day?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Did you give me a pull question for hour or
two seaton and I didn't listen? Again, you know, I
don't believe I did.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Okay? All right, I don't believe I did okay.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Do we do an offshoot of the current poll question
and say who's more to blame for yesterday's story, the
media or the quarterback justin Fields?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I would say, well, Todd, you had some I would
say the media played a role because it didn't. They
didn't put the quote in context. They just put it
in quotations where he was asking, you know, he his
explanation for why he believes that way, and they went coaching.
They didn't add anything to that. So I'd say the
(12:07):
media played a role in this. He didn't help. Like
his role was to diffuse it. He didn't do a
great job with that. So I'd say probably start.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
With the media.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Always blame the media, right, these those guys, the media,
they're looking clicks, looking for clicks.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And then when Justin Field says, yeah, you know, I'm
not blaming my coaches.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You guys just looking for clicks. Hmm. Didn't sound like
you were blaming your coaches. That could be the coaching,
you said, yeah, direct quote, I know, I said, it
could have been a setting. Yeah. No, no, you said,
you said, do you.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Have any idea why this is happening? And your initial
reaction was to say coaching.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
Marvin when he clarifies his comments, I just I just
want to play what he says first.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I love this, Okay, I love you guys. I love
you guys, But like what yeah, yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
It's like Seaton said, it was like Oh, it's doing
pretty well. No no, no, no, no, he's doing pretty well. No no, no, no,
it's almost like you need the pr person goes, eh,
we're done.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yes, half and in half? Yeah, half and then half.
It's what I tell Fritzy all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Never been more appropriate than cut it in half and
then cut it in half.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm not gonna take.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
Any more football questions, and thank you all for coming up.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (13:27):
Hey, good morning, mister Patrick, to you and the boys,
especially just seating there and my brother in the Bud,
I just wanted to say I just want to call
and say thank you guys. I've been listening since before
Matt Harvey was honoring Paul Calm, and this morning I
was enjoining unexpected day off, listening to some yacht rock
thanks to you guys, and enjoying some of Missouri's finest
(13:49):
when Kiss on My List came on and I felt
inspired to call in uh so again. I just wanted
to say thank you guys. You've been a part of
my life every morning for such a long time. And
Marvin you are such a great addition to the show.
And Dan you personally, thank you for inspiring a vinyl
collection of my own that my wife and I have
started collecting. If you don't have it, By the way,
(14:11):
Traveler Chris Apleton one of the best vinyls. That man's
voice is made for vinyl.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 10 (14:20):
Just want to end it in saying I'm sorry Marv
wu tang forever and I'll due respect to Polly. I
love you guys, but sew.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Wow makes up a little bit suckod front road. But
he was praising how great you've been Marvin.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You met me.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
That just means you how bad Paul is in that
guy's eyes that he just drags Marvin down. He's been great,
it's been great, but Paul just really thanks him.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Sorry, Mark, Michael and fort Wayne him Mike, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 11 (14:51):
Good morning, Dan, Thanks for taking my call. I've got
one comment and an unrelated question for you. Tomorrow is
meet Friday, and so I'm going to go ahead and
put an end to the splander that started last week
of potatoes before it happens again. Last week, potatoes were
inexplicably disrespected because they get dressed up and thus compared
to Brussels sprouts, Comparing potatoes to Brussels sprouts is like
(15:14):
saying Julia Roberts and Et the Extraterrestrial are similar because
they both warn't a dress. The feelings of the two
are not at all comparable. Okay, and then, finally, on
an unrelated note, as I'm sure you remember the day's
the twenty first night of September. What are the odds
you hit the post coming out of a break today?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh? If I did September by Earth Wind and Fire,
you know, maybe I saved that for tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I just love that.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
A week later he had to tell you the potato disrespect.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, thank you, Michael, thank you.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Yes, what mar Maybe you should do it today. By tomorrow,
I think I'm gonna do boy Band Friday. We're talking
about in sync possibly doing the super Bowl. Hey, whatever
song you guys, mention it, you guys, send it to me,
I'll play it.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Okay, So boy Band Friday, boy, this is a great
day for Fritzie.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That's excellent. Yeah, yeah, he loves That's.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
What I thought.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It was tearing up my.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
No, no, no, no, you can just say the song. Yeah,
how about we let them sing it? I did this
to Fritzie one time, I said, oh, you heard this song?
And then you know, I said, who's who sings his song?
And then Fritzie started singing it. I go, no, why
don't we let them sing it? I don't want you
to sing it. I didn't ask you this opportunity to perform. Yeah,
(16:39):
who sings this? Oh? Backstreet? Why don't you let them
do that?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Time? No, No, we're not going to do that. We
don't do that. Don't do that, not anymore backstreets?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Dad, Right, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I was just watching it. I was watching a video yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Fritzie is on the couch in the New York City
man cave singing to uh christ So Christy Tagan is
lying on top of Fritzy and then you're singing John
Legend's song all of Me Loves all of You and
You're your rendition was terrible.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It was not very It was terrible. Yeah, what a.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
Special time to be alive for me at that but.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Not half Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
But Chrissy Teagan, she was laying on top of you,
and then she started singing the song to you speakable,
I guess because you were doing such a terrible job.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But she took over and sang it to you.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Yeah, sometimes I gotta take one for the team like that.
You're like, really, I gotta have Chris gotta tell.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Me whatever that really happened.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, in retrospect, that may have been her most questionable
decision in the last ten years.
Speaker 12 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I don't know if she's been on since then. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Remember she came in and she was dressed like an elf.
She had a skirt on, and she was putting ornaments
up on the tree.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
There was a period of time where like she knew us.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, yeah, like we were important in her life, Like
she was cool.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
She was like friend of the show. They got real
famous though, yeah, they do, they got super famous.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
Yeah, now this published as agents managers involved, you can't
send her that little email and say hey, come on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. Our good buddy
Andy Staples will join us. We'll talk about Dion Sanders,
the game against Oregon, and also what's going on in Tuscaloosa,
because it feels like there's something going on and it's
not good for Nick Saban. He talked about name, image
and likeness last year and Boosters needed to step up
(18:41):
a little bit. Is he getting ni eld by everybody else,
and I find that interesting. He's still searching for a quarterback,
and he's got this game against Lane Kiffin coming up
this weekend. We'll talk a little college football, we'll visit
the Chicago Bears later on this hour, and we'll get
to more phone calls as well. We're back after this
(19:02):
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FSR or stream us live on the Peacock App. I
saw this note third in short Carolina Panthers can't use
their quarterback sneak because Bryce Young.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Is too small.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
He's five ten two o four. Andy Dalton came in
on those plays, So isn't that interesting He's too small
to do what Jalen Hurts does with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Does that.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Kind of makes sense because they're pushing a guy and
they're crunching them up, and he's slight in comparison to
like Jalen Hurtz or fields.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, but I just figured it was everybody's move in
the pile. I feel like I could get two yards
behind the Eagles offensive line, and Andy, because you're tall
and you're bigger, you get to go in for a
couple of plays. First time he goes in, I think
they had a false start. All right, let me bring
in Andy Staples covers college football for the website on
(21:13):
three Sports. We've been talking about Justin Fields. Take me
back to his last year at Ohio State. Was there
any real question about him being a pocket passer at
the next level.
Speaker 13 (21:26):
There were always those questions because the late Dwayne Haskins
had had some of the same issues coming out of
a similar offense, and it was but you saw Justin
it was more about reading the defense and about what
he was asked to do in that offense. And I
think that's been sort of a complaint about Ohio State
quarterbacks under Ryan Day. Joe Burrow was there but then
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left to go to LSU was running a different offense
at LSU. I think that's that's gonna be the question
until one of them kind of breaks out and becomes
a success in the NFL. Is are they not asked
to do the things that they need to do? And
the other just obvious thing with Ohio State quarterbacks. Their
receivers are so much better than everyone else. There's a
(22:12):
different kind of open at Ohio State than somewhere else.
Like I'll give you an example, brock Purty's receivers at
Iowa State weren't nearly as open as Justin Field's receivers.
That so brock Purty had to learn to fit it
in there. Justin Fields for the most part, had somebody
wide open.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But there's been that knock on Alabama quarterbacks for years
that hey, anybody can quarterback at Alabama. You have all
those great receivers, but we are getting good quarterbacks coming
out of there. Well, at least we had what happened
with Alabama with this year.
Speaker 13 (22:45):
With these quarterbacks, either they've missed on some haven't developed
the ones they have, or both. Because you know, you're right,
it used to be, oh Greg McElroy, AJ mcchaeron, Jacob Coker,
it doesn't matter, you just put it in there. There's
so much more talented than everybody else. All they have
to do is not make mistakes. But as other teams
(23:06):
got as talented as Alabama and you had to deal
with the Clemsons and all that, you did have to
have a more talented quarterback, and that's what Alabama did.
They changed the way they recruited the quarterback position. They
went more dual threat, and they had a historic Think
about this, the Jalen Hurts to a tongue of Iloa
mac Jones and Bryce Young in succession. There's not going
(23:30):
to be a team in college in twenty years that
has that run, that kind of run, and so I
think we got a little spoiled with that. And we
also got a little spoiled with them having really dynamic receivers.
I mean, you think about when they had Jalen Waddell,
Davonte Smith, Henry Ruggs, and Jerry Judy all at the
(23:51):
same time. That's just unfair. It's what Ohio State does
everybody now, but it's also not possible to do year
after year after year.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
A year.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It was a year ago where Nick Saban kind of
complained about him nil and he was talking to his boosters.
He's basically saying, look, we gotta we gotta outspend Texas
A and M A and M hasn't cashed in on this,
but Alabama, like what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
They it's you know, is it transfer portal NIL.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
They're not taking advantage of either one of those like
other other schools.
Speaker 13 (24:28):
No, I don't think it's that because when they've needed
to get somebody in the transfer portal, like Jamison Williams
a couple of years ago, they did okay, and so
they've been able to spot recruit out of the portal NIL.
If they tell their donors, hey, instead of rebuilding the
weight room, we'd like you to donate to NIL, they'll
do it. They'll do whatever they need to do. But
I do think the market in general has changed. And
(24:50):
you know, Andy Schwartz was an economist who worked with
the plaintiffs in Obanon versus the n Cuba and wrote
this back back then and said, Hey, if all this
stuff were to come to be, you'll see the talent
spread out more. And I think you're seeing that. I
mean in the class of twenty twenty four. Dan, here's
a good example. The number one defensive lineman in the
country is going to Missouri. He's from Missouri. Missouri has
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a state law that allows you to start cashing in
on NIL deals September of your senior year of high school.
So this sort of thing is changing the dynamics. The
transfer portal is also changing it because remember, if you
want to play in the NFL, Matt Castle aside, you
got to play in college. So you're not going to
sit the bench at Alabama or Ohio State or Clemson
(25:35):
or wherever for three years waiting when you can go
somewhere and star right away, and oh, by the way,
they'll give you an NIL deal.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
But this so this isn't a case of Alabama's slipping
as much as others are moving up up the ladder.
Speaker 13 (25:50):
Where Alabama's different. I think one, they can't select as
well as they could like it used to be, they
could get anybody they wanted. The moment Kirby Smart went
to Georgia, that changed. The other thing that's happening with
Alabama is the bench of assistant coaches is not that deep.
Remember Nick Saban was losing assistance left and right, but
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always seemed to have somebody ready who was either in
that Nick Saban witness relocation program that Mike Loxley always
joked about, or had worked there before, gone somewhere else
and was coming back. Well, this time, they didn't have that,
like when Bill O'Brien went to the Patriots. They didn't
have an OC just ready to pull up, which is
exactly what Georgia did this year when they lost Todd
(26:30):
Mnkin to the Ravens. So they had to go do
a national search. They talked to Brian Rubbitt Washington, they
talked to other people, and they end up hiring Tommy
Rees for Notre Dame. But Tommy Rees had never worked
with Nick Saban before. We don't know how well they
worked together in the past. Nick Saban has usually picked
somebody he has already worked with and knows exactly what
he's going to get out of.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Is there any fallout if Clemson and or Alabama don't
make the playoffs this year?
Speaker 13 (27:00):
There's any fallout In turn of it, Clemson is probably
going to have to rethink the way they do some things,
because while Alabama has adjusted to the changes in college sports,
Clemson has it. Dablas Sweeney has not wanted to use
the transfer portal. I think the first time he used
it was last year to get Hunter Johnson, who is
a quarterback at Northwestern who had been a quarterback at Clemson,
so he's basically just bringing him back. They have not
(27:24):
filled holes nearly as well, because they have not wanted
to use the transfer portal because Dado doesn't believe in that. Well,
he's probably going to have to start believing in it.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, we're talking to Andy Staples. He covers college football
ats on three Sports Colorado. These next two weekends. How
important are these two games for just this season, well,
maybe for the entire program moving forward.
Speaker 13 (27:50):
Well, I think they're very important, but it's more about
how you show up. It's not necessarily if you win.
If you win either one of these games, it is awesome.
They will be the biggest story in sports if they
can beat Oregon this weekend. But if they can compete
with Oregon this weekend, that should tell you they're going
to be a monster in the next year or so.
(28:12):
Because when you revamp a roster the way they did
wholesale changes, you can get skill players out of the portal,
but it's very hard to find big guys in the portal,
and Oregon has really good players up front both lines
of scrimmage. If they can hang with what they have,
they'll be able to get better big guys this next year,
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and all of a sudden, they'll be competitive with anybody. Now,
I went into the season before, I saw them play,
thinking this is a game where they're just going to
get their doors blown off, and it may happen because
they don't have Travis Hunter. But I've been really impressed
with the way they've played schematically. Sean Lewis, the offensive coordinator,
was a good head coach at Kent State. He's done
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a good job taking advantage of what they do have
and hiding what they don't. If they can keep doing that,
I think they could be really good in the coming years.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And then they've got USC at home after that. But
I'm wondering once again USC lacking defense. They certainly have offense,
but are they a Final four team with just an
offensive minded team.
Speaker 13 (29:17):
I think they're better defensively. This year they went out
and got some guys out of the portal. I remember
I said there's not a lot of good big guys
available in the portal, but USC tends to draw the
ones that are, and they got a guy named Bear
Alexander from Georgia to play defensive tackle. They got Anthony
Lucas from Texas A and M who plays on the
d line as well, body types that USC just didn't
(29:37):
have before, and most teams in the Pac twelve that
aren't Oregon or Utah don't have so I do think
they're going to be considerably better defensively. We'll see when
they play Colorado, when they play Notre Dame, but I
suspect they're better than they were last year.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Speaking of Notre Dame, they got Ohio State. How impactful
is this game?
Speaker 13 (29:59):
It's huge. I was talking to Mike Gullick, Junior, who
played center for the Irish when they played for a
national title in twenty twelve. He said, this feels bigger
than any of those games. I was talking to some
people at Notre Dame. They said, this feels like the
biggest game since USC came in five on that campus.
And so this is this is huge because they got
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Sam Harton out quarterback, which feels like the piece they've
been missing, the thing that allows that offense to be
more explosive. They just haven't had that in the last
few years. So if you can beat in Ohio State,
you can absolutely beat anybody in the country. And I
do think with this schedule, if they split Ohio State
and USC and are a competitive in the one they lose,
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they could still make the fourteen playoff at eleven to one.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Have a great weekend, Andy, always great to catch up
with you.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Thank you, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
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Schrock covers the Bears.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
For NBC Sports Chicago.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
He joins us, Now, boy, you had a day yesterday there, Josh,
When did you know that it was a mess when
you showed up at the facility.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I'd say about ninety seconds after Justin Fields took the
podium and it was clear that he had a lot
of things on his and a lot of things to say,
and things just snowball from there. They just kept going
until about seven o'clock at night. So it was a
bizarre and very weird day at Househall in one that
will probably define this team.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
But I wonder about the tweet that was sent out
and it stopped with just he blames coaching, and then
we didn't add anything else to that tweet, so we
had to wait to really find out the context of that.
If you flip it around where he takes blame and
then he mentions the code like it just felt like
(34:32):
if he handled it differently, then this isn't a big deal.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Do you agree that? I agree.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
I think Justin is a very smart kid, and I
think he clearly went to the podium yesterday with an
idea of what was being said about him and how
things are going, and he wanted to get out in
front of some of the issues. And he starts with
it could be coaching and then proceeds to say it's
also on me. But look, he was very critical of
the staff, and I think he meant what he said.
(34:59):
He was direct, confident he didn't torch them. And I
think he went to the practice field and then got
off and saw everyone just running with the one thing
and was like, wow, okay, I need to backtrack because
it's a quarterback's unwritten law that I don't just come
out and last everyone. So he wants to make it
clear that he does blame himself, but everything he said
he meant.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Okay, But if you look at this situation, how do
you troubleshoot this? If you're the Bears front office, coaching
staff and Justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Well, I think they could have helped themselves a lot
if they had understood their personnel better. Like a job
of a good coordinator and a good coach is to
know your player's strengths and to game plan around what
they do best, not game plan around what you want
to do. And anyone who's watched the Bears to the
first two games can tell you that's not the offense
they should be running. That's not the offense that made
Justin special last year. So that's where they could have started,
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and that was about two months ago. But as of now,
they need to scrap everything. They need to scrap the
Aaron Rodgers esque offense that Lukeetzi wants to run, and
they need to listen to it, Justin saying and just
do what he does best. Four quarterback design runs in
two games is not nearly enough. They've really cobwebed the
vertical passing game except the two drives they scored against Tampa.
(36:11):
They need to do what this offense was built to do.
They told us it's built around mobility, it's built around
vertical passing, and then they just completely disregarded all of
that for the first two weeks. That have made Justin
think too much and play pretty poorly, and he owns
some of that blame. But they need to scrap everything.
They need to scrap the game plan, and they need
to do what makes him comfortable because that's the only
way they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
But the big question is still going to be can
he beat you from the pocket? Right when it's all
said and done, he was a curiosity. It was fun
to watch they don't win. But are you okay with that?
If you're a Chicago Bear fan, would you rather just
be entertaining and maybe you're not gonna win games? Or
can you try to? Are they trying to make him
something that he's not, Therefore you're gonna lose games either way?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Justin says they're not. I think what he was getting
at yesterday was what he's good at and what they
want him to do do not align at the moment,
and they need to find a way to mesh the two.
He's he's not trying to say I don't want to
play from the pocket, But what he's saying is I
don't want to just stand there like they're telling me
to do and go one, two, three, pause, wait, make
sure it's good, and then get out. I need to
(37:16):
still play free and right now he's thinking way too
much because he wants to do everything that they tell
him to do by to a tee and that's just
that's not going to work at this level. Dan, Like,
it's clear against the Bucks, he was freezing, his brain
was locking up, and it led to a lot of mistakes.
He missed open receivers. He admitted the strip sack was
that was what happened. Right. He's like, I would have
been out of there last year, but I'm just trying
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to do what they're telling me. So they need to
figure out a way to get him to play from
the pocket, but also utilize that athleticism and they need
to roll the pocket. They need to not make it
so hey everything is just straight, drop back behind a
bad offensive line and try to make it work.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, because there were a couple of reads against Tampa
Bay where you're going, I got two guys open, Yeah,
and he was freezing, yep.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
But he might just be one.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
He might be like Cam Newton that you just say, look,
do it how you need to do it, for as
long as you can do it. And then we saw
what happened. Cam fell off a cliff, he couldn't play anymore.
He got him to a Super Bowl. But I you know,
and I was just talking to Andy Staples, who covers
college football, and he said, you know, there were questions
(38:23):
about Justin Fields when he was in college at Ohio State,
that you didn't have to do much because your receivers
are so good. Ryan Day, offensive minded head coach, and
you know you're not reading as much. Now in the NFL,
you do have to go through your progressions or at
least most of the elite quarterbacks. And then you have
Kansas City coming up this weekend. It just feels like
(38:45):
this is Justin Fields is going to put on the
cape and go out there and try to be Justin
Fields of last year.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Yeah, And honestly, at this point, Dan, the offensive line
is so banged up and they're making so many mental
mistakes offensively, the receivers are running the wrong routes, they're
standing next to each other, The only way this is
gonna even have a chance to be successful on Sunday
against a team that's much more talented than there both sides.
The vaut is for Justin to just be superman like
he was last year and try to will them to
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thirty points. I think your point about you know, Cam Newton, Yeah,
I mean that might end up being what Justin is.
I think he's been putting a horrible spot to start
his career. He's had no continuity. He's had you know,
Matt Naggy, now Luke Getzi, and no one's engineered anything
around him. You think about what Greg Roman did with
Lamar Jackson right where it was like, okay, let's just
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let's just package what you do well will make you successful.
You win an MVP, And now Todd Munkin's building on that.
That gotten him weapons and he was able to progress
as a quarterback. Justin's not had any of that. And
I mean, honestly, things are things are spiraling right now
for the Bears, And like I said, it kind of
reeks of Naggy Trubisky two point zero right where Mitch
got binched and and then he came out and started
(39:55):
talking freely about the scheme issues and how he was uncomfortable,
and to Justin's he knows this is this is his
career and he has to get out in front of
this and say, hey, yeah, I'm playing bad. Part of
it's on me, part of it's because I'm just doing
what I'm told and it needs to change.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
And he had all of this unfolding and then your
defensive coordinator resigns yesterday. Do we have any more information
on why he decided to step away for his health
and to be with his family.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
The situation remains incredibly murky. It was even murkier yesterday
when the Bears released a one line statement that said
he resigned Dan. I mean, you know, even when people
fire executives or coaches, it's always we thank you for
your service, we appreciate the time. You'll be a you know,
a Bear for life. It was none of that. It was, hey,
he's gone, so something else is going on. I think
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of them health, because it was just health and family.
They would have wished him well and said, you know,
he can come back anytime if he wants, and that's
clearly not the case.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
They've already taken him off the website.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I mean they're they're scrubbing any any remnants of him,
distancing themselves and just the rumors that are out there.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Yeah, I mean that's the where were The only reason
we know he resigned is because of those rumors and
social media, because otherwise the Bears were really content on
keeping it. Hey, we don't have an update. He's not
here for now.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Great appearance, Josh, thanks for joining us. Have fun today,
I always do, Dan, Thank you, Josh Shrock, Bears Insider,
NBC Sports Chicago. Yeah, I think you get a team.
All you wanted is a team that has some kind
of storyline. There, give me some drama.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Hey, we're really good or we're really bad. That's all
you want.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
If you're going to be a beat writer, beat reporter,
local radio, just give me something now.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
The Bears gave you that.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Congratulations Jim in Ohio, Hi Jim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (41:49):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (41:50):
First of all, I want to thank you for coming
to Cincinnati for the book signing.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yep.
Speaker 12 (41:57):
We I think everybody enjoyed your humor and stories. I
want to first of all, I want to clear up
something that I have a quick question for you. I'm
the one that drew that caricature. Oh yeah, oh, and
I did not intentionally make you look like Anderson Cooper
and Harry. I didn't have a lot of time to
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get that ready. I usually take a couple of weeks
to think about it. Get you out. So I would
like to redeem myself and send another one. This time
I want to include the Dan Atson.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
All right, sure, yeah, I got lipstick on.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I look like Harry Carey and Anderson Cooper if they
had a child.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
And I have bright red lipstick on.
Speaker 12 (42:42):
Well, I have to redeem myself because that was not
my intention. Whatsoeber and I do like you. I've been
following sports for fifty years. My four favorite broadcasters. You're
one of them. So I do admire your job and
what you have brought to the sport.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Well, thank you, Jim. I appreciate that. I think I
might be fourth top four though. Yeah you made it.
Yeah that's Mount Rushmore. Yeah I got.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Four yeah, yeah, mayb. Who do you think the other
three are?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
I don't know. Don't you want to? Yes? You do?
Speaker 12 (43:17):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Jim? Is Jim still there? Okay? Real quickly? Who are
your other three? Jim?
Speaker 12 (43:26):
Marty Brenneman, red announcer, Harry Carey, Pat Hughes, Uh yeah,
and you oh.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Okay, all right, well, thank you, thank you, Jim. That's
good company right there.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
So Pat Hughes does the cubs, and then Marty Brennan
Hall of Famer, and then Harry Carey.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
That is good company. Yeah, good for you, Dan, Thank you,
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
If Anderson Cooper and Harry Carey had a child, that's me.
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