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November 27, 2024 40 mins

Colorado's Travis Hunter snubbed for the Jim Thorpe Award. Andy Staples joins the show to discuss the latest College Football Playoff rankings. Ryan Fitzpatrick talks about his transition to the broadcast booth and how Bill Belichick would beat him on the field.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two in this Wednesday Dan and the Dan
at Dan Patrick Show, the day before Thanksgiving. I've already
had my Thanksgiving dinner last night. My wife for some
reason decided to make a full turkey dinner before we
break bread with my family tomorrow.

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we don't have a.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
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won't be here, but we have a meat ish Wednesday
sausage or bacon, egg and cheese.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Bagels and hash browns. Who has it better than we do?
No body?

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Speaker 5 (00:50):
I didn't want to interrupt. I interrupted anyway. Did your
wife do the turkey thing as like a test balloon
to make sure everything was good ahead of time? As
she's not randomly picking turkey right before.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
They she's not cooking Thursday.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
So what do you think her motivation was for giving
you a turkey? If you're going to beating a whole
lot of turkey in just forty eight hours later?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I said that I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Did you offer up an explanation or you just got
to stay quiet?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
And well, she made me a great meal, so I
didn't want to say. I did say, oh, Thanksgiving on Tuesday,
but yeah, I didn't. She made a great meal and
I didn't help with it because she had already made it.
So I didn't want to go, oh, what do we
Why are we having this today? So you got to
pick your spots. That's all I'm just doing. But yeah,

(01:37):
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the process.

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(02:06):
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guess they're gonna win that game comfortably.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I gotta get back on the get back on the wagon.
I think so I'll tell you one practice. I don't
want to be.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Today today after back to back losses, Oh dear, but
people are surprised that this is that Danny Hurley acts
this way like gues his entire coaching career and his
brother and his dad this is this is their personality here, like,
oh my god, have you seen him? And the language, Yes,

(02:41):
this is how he coaches. It is off putting. He's
gonna be the villain of college basketball.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
He almost was last year and or maybe it was
the year before and you know, sort of put a
nice ring championship band aid over that.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, yes, Marvin, Yeah, I'm not sure if it's the language.
I think it's the theatricks incorporated with the language. Yeah,
because every single college coach curses, but with the oh
my gosh and the flailing and all that stuff and
falling to the ground, I think that's what takes it
over the top. Coach k and Roy Williams also cursed,
but maybe just not in the same way with all

(03:16):
the theatrics.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, I think he tripped. I don't think he fell
to the ground that one time. Felt like he tripped
over one of his coaches. Okay, you don't think so, oh,
I don't know. Okay, yes, it's a seat. I think
the language is one thing. Coaches have all had bad
mouths or foul mouths. That's no big deal, and it
is sort of. It's so theatrically, even when he's not

(03:38):
saying anything and he does the the lip thing where
he's like mugging somebody, like what do you do? Because
the way his mouth turns down and stuff, he makes
the goofiest faces even when he's not saying anything.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's a riot. Um yes, bawi.

Speaker 7 (03:55):
He does feel like an eighties coach in twenty twenty four,
but the winning cleans it up. When he wins, no
one's going to complain hard. It's only when you dip.
If you dip, then his The things that are funny
and cute and likable, if that's the right word now
will be.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Looked at differently.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Age seven seven three DP Show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com,
Twitter handled at DP show. Good morning if you're watching
on Peacock. That's our streaming partner. When's the last time
Ohio State against Michigan didn't really garner any headlines? Michigan
is getting twenty and a half against Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Now we know Michigan lost a lot of players and
Ohio State is one of the top five teams in
the country. But Michigan is getting twenty and a half
against Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
All right, poll question for hour two.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Then we'll get to Andy Staples, who covers college football Seaton.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
We've also got up there right now if you could
only watch one for the next five days, NFL or CFB.
Right now, the NFL is leading with about fifty five
percent of that vote.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, well, I'm looking at the matchups though. What's the
matchup that is must see TV? Georgia is a big favorite,
Miami's a big favorite, Arizona State nine point favorite, Tennessee
is a double digit favorite, Texas five and a half
against Texas A and M. I would say the Notre
Dame against USC Notre Dame minus seven and a half,

(05:26):
But you know, the other ones don't seem like they're
going to be Georgia Tech getting nineteen and a half
against Georgia, So I don't know. Now, there could be
teams or a team that gets knocked out if something
goes sideways here, but for the most part, these teams
should be able to hold serve. If Notre Dame loses,
Notre Dame's probably out of the playoffs. Here all right,

(05:50):
we'll get to your phone calls coming up and we'll
talk to Ryan Fitzpatrick. He'll be on the call, the
Amazon Prime NFL analyst. It'll be Black Friday on Amazon
primeate's Kansas City against the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
He'll join us.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Coming up also next hour, Kenny Maine, my former ESPN
co anchor. He is he's got a documentary on wiffle ball,
and he'll tell us about that as well as we
make way for Andy Staples are a good buddy from
on three sports covers. The sport always makes us smarter

(06:22):
in the joints. This now, Andy, good morning. Got any
problem with the latest rankings.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
The one that I thought was a little interesting is
where they have Clemson at number twelve. So what they're
saying here is if Clemson beat South Carolina, which South
Carolina is their number fifteen team, that Clemson could jump
into an at large spot depending on what happens above them.
And I think that's a little interesting because of the
teams that they have them clustered around, because they've got

(06:50):
Clemson just ahead of Alabama and ole Miss. Now Alabama
ole Miss each have one more loss. But let's look
at the schedules. Clemson toughest game they played Georgia got
destroyed by Georgia. Alabama and ole Miss both beat Georgia.
Clemson did not play the kind of schedule dated. Now
what you can say is, well, Alabama shouldn't have lost
to Oklahoma by three touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Ole Miss shouldn't have lost to Florida.

Speaker 8 (07:13):
I mean, those are five lost teams and that makes
perfect sense. But Clemson's other losses to Louisville, which is
potentially gonna look just like that if Louisville loses to
Kentucky this weekend. So I think that's a weird spot.
And I heard Ward Manuel talking about it last night.
I think what's gonna happen? And the Clemson fans are
not gonna like this. If they beat South Carolina, they're

(07:34):
gonna get jobbed out of this thing anyway, because the
committee's gonna look at it again and go, oh, we
screw that up and put Alabama Ole Miss ahead of them.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Okay, why is Alabama ranked ahead of Old Miss.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
It's a great question because there's no real head to
head to figure out. You know, you've got some common opponents,
but that's pretty much it. Al mioss lost to LSU.
Alabama crushed LSU. Alabama narrowly beat Georgia. Ole Miss crush Georgia.
So it's very hard to parse those two. South Carolina

(08:07):
beneath those two is easier because South Carolina lost had
to head to both of those two. What will get
interesting about that, Dan, though, is if South Carolina beats
Clemson this weekend, can you put them above Alabama or
ole Miss because they lost to them.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Give me the team that is in the playoffs now
that won't be in the playoffs once they start.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh, that's a great question, because.

Speaker 8 (08:32):
It could be somebody who just loses this weekend.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's the thing. There were a couple holy.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Crap games this past weekend, and it was Alabama, Oklahoma
and Florida ole Miss. There's the potential for something like that.
So I think if Notre Dame lost to USC, I
think they'd be out because I think I think we
all need to agree to count Notre Dame's loss in
Northern Illinois as two losses because it's that bad. But
if it's your only loss, okay, but if you go

(09:00):
lose to a five loss USC in addition to losing
the nordn of then Nolai.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
You probably should be out another one.

Speaker 8 (09:06):
Like Tennessee's playing Vanderbilt this weekend. Most years you're like, Oh,
Tennessee's gonna roll over Vanderbilt. This not this Vanderbilt team.
This could be a really good game. And this is
this is a scary spot for Tennessee because the Vandy wins,
Tennessee's out.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
You also have Maryland against Penn State. That's kind of
sneaky good there.

Speaker 8 (09:26):
Yeah, I'm not as worried about that because Penn State
got their scare against Minnesota last week. I think I
think they match up really well with Maryland. Also, I
was very impressed with the way James Franklin handled the
end of that game. I kind of like that because
I want to see that version of Penn State in
the playoff where he's faking upon he's going forward on
fourth down to salt the way the game and kind

(09:48):
of the way he termed it was winning it on
their terms. That's how you have to win in the playoff,
and that's not something that Penn State has done really
a lot in the last few years, so I'm kind
of interested to see what they do. I think they're
going to be fine against Maryland.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
The other one that's weird that I'd worry about.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Dan.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
Now, this team could be out with this if Miami
were to lose to Syracuse. The total in that game
is like sixty seven and a half seems completely reasonable.
This feels like a complete shootout. Miami's defense has been
somewhat suspect, but so with syracusees. So I think this
could be a very high scoring, last team with the
ball wins kind of game. If Miami were to lose

(10:28):
that game, Dan, they would be out of the AEC Championship.
Clemson would then get into the AEC Championship again against SMU.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
That would be very interesting.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
We're talking Andy Staples. He covers college football for on
three Sports. Give me the school that is out of
the playoffs. Who will be in the playoffs when they start?

Speaker 8 (10:48):
Well, right now, if you look at the rankings, all
of the big twelve teams are out. One of them
is going to get in. There's four teams, all of
which have a chance to make the conference title game
depending on what happens this weekend. And the winner of
Thatcydle game is getting in. So I would say Arizona
State and Iowa State I kind of feel the best about.
And then those two play and I Arizona State's the

(11:10):
hottest team in the league right now, so I think
I think Sparky would be the.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
One that makes it in there.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
What's going to happen to these conference championship games in
the future, that's a great question.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
That they've already talked about expanding the playoff to fourteen
starting in twenty twenty six, and I think the reason
for that is they want to make sure that the
SEC and Big Ten championships have some stakes because those
would be the only two bys and you would assume
that those are probably going to the Big Ten and
SEC champs. So the worry was that both of those games,

(11:43):
both those teams are in the playoff, nobody cares. I mean,
you can make a case this year that it's probably
better to lose the Big Ten championship and be the
five seed than be the one seed. So they don't
want that. They don't want to have that happen. So
I think that's what you're going to see with the
those games now. This format is great for the Big

(12:03):
Twelve Championship game. It's great for the ACC Championship game
because those are win and in situations. Probably now maybe
the ACC they both get and we'll see, but the
Big Twelve is absolutely going to be the winners in
the losers out, and that's all. And I think they'd
like to keep it that way because I think that
actually makes it the best product. But then the Big

(12:24):
Ten in the SEC, it's a different story.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Good to talk to you, Happy Thanksgiving, Safe travels this weekend. Andy,
Thank you, Happy Thanksgiving. It to all you guys.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Andy Staples on three, he covers college football. He'll be
at Texas, Texas A and M. I was looking at
the Colorado game because Deon Sanders is upset because Travis
Hunter didn't get nominated or win the Jim Thorpe Award,
I believe, and Colorado is giving nineteen to Oklahoma State.

(12:55):
Now here's dion. Travis Hunter was snubbed for the Jim
Thorpe Award? Does that go?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Is it? Nomination? Marvin correct Okay nominated? Nominated? And now
is that Jim Thorpe is for the best best player
defensive back. That's the all defensive back. Okay, here's Deon Sanders.

Speaker 9 (13:16):
How how is Travis Hunter snubbed by the Jim Thorper Ward.
You can have my award. You can have it back.
As a matter of fact, I'm gonna give it mind.
I ain't using It's just sit up there collecting dust.
So Travis could have my Thorpe Award. Because if this
ain't the most idiotic thing in college football that he's

(13:37):
not a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award, and he is,
I would say arguably, but it's I don't think it's
really an argument about this young man being the best
defensive back in college football.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Okay, so he didn't get nominated for best defensive Back.
I would say, there's a legitimate right there. And Beon
won the award when he was at Florida State.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
So I'm okay. I don't know how big the award is.
I'd forgotten what it was or what it was for.
I think he's going to be one of the finalists
for the Heisman Trophy, which seems more important. But I
get it.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
He has a very paternal approach to his players, like
a fatherly figure. There's tough love. It's important to have
their back, especially college. I don't know if it'd work
in the NFL, but this fatherly figure it works. And
he's saying that Travis Hunter, it's embarrassing, it's idiotic that
he got snubbed.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Yes, Eton, but how could you be nominated for the
Heisman when you weren't nominated for the award that's in
your own position.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yes, Paulie, I.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
Could see how this happened. Because Travis Hunter does not
play all the plays at defensive back. Maybe the committee
said we're going to lean towards full time, all play
defensive backs on.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
The wide receiver award.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
If he's up for that, he's fifth, tied for fifth
in the country in receptions this year and eleven touchdowns,
he would definitely be in the mix. So he's like
in the mix for both awards, but there's players better
than him at those individual positions. Nobody does what he
does by playing both though that's where the Heisman is his.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I still think Shadoor Sanders, if I'm voting today, I
would give him more credit because what he's done at
the quarterbacking position, like he's been this steady person there.
Now that offensive line is not good at all, Travis
Hunter might be the most talented player in college football.
I'll grant you that. Ashton Genty has had a wonderful year.

(15:38):
The problem is he plays for Boise State. He hasn't
had a standalone game. He plays on Friday at noon
on Fox. He needs a Heisman moment, and I don't
know if he's going to get it. But he has
two thousand rushing yards. They're in the playoffs, Like Colorado
is not even in the playoffs yet, Ashton Genty has
Boise State with a first round I got to factor

(16:01):
that in a little bit here.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yes, Marvin, I could see Dian's confusion because Travis Hunter
is nominated for the Chuck Bednarik Award, which is the
defensive player of the Year in America.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Maybe we have too many awards because is he up
for the Fred Blitniko Award for Best Receiver? Checking because
Alabama and Ohio State have two really good wide receivers.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
Yeah, like, yeah, but you're not even the best at
your own physician, but generally overall, we'll put you in this.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
That doesn't really add up for me. All Right, we'll
take a break.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Ryan Fitzpatrick, will Jonas, we'll talk some NFL with him.
We'll talk about Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick's commentary. When he
says some things, I think it's delivery that softens what
he's saying. But he's been saying some things that certainly
caught my ear. We'll talk to Ryan Fitzpatrick about that.
We'll take a break. We're back after this.

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Speaker 3 (17:03):
Slipping a couple of phone calls before we talked to
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You guys make us all laugh.

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I just wanted to show some appreciation for that.

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And uh, Fritzie, you're the best man. Keep everybody laughing.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Thanks Michael.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
All right, there's Michael in Rochester, Joe and Indiana. Hi Joe,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (17:41):
Hi?

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Dan?

Speaker 11 (17:42):
First time, long time six four three hundred. You know,
with it being Thanksgiving and everything, I just kind of
wanted to call and tell you guys how much I
appreciate all of you guys.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (17:56):
I lost my dad four years ago and lost two
jobs in that timeframe as well, And you know, listening
to you guys every day really helped me get through
that and helped me put me in a better mental state.
Listening to you guys, listening to Todd every day, I
kind of realized my life wasn't really all that bad,

(18:17):
you know.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
So Joe lost his dad and two jobs and his
life is better than yours, God bless him.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
And even while sitting in all of that misery, he said,
but at least I'm not Todd.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
That sounds like a country song lost my dad. I
think we should write something a couple of jobs.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
But at least, you know what.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
As long as Joe has a smile on his face,
we all win.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Jim and Ohio, Hi Jim, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (18:49):
Good morning Dan. I wanted to wish you guys are
very happy and blessed Thanksgiving, and I am thankful for
the not so serious content you bring to the show. Hey,
I have a.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Fill in the for you guys.

Speaker 12 (19:03):
Todd's antics are Oh.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Thank you, Jim, let's a callback call back to the reporter.
I don't know who that reporter is. I don't want
to know his name. I just don't. I'm not sure
if he heard that on our show and how he
reacted to it when he's asking the placekicker for the
Commanders about missing an extra point and started his question.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
With Asino, that's the best.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Doesn't it feel like somebody's asking him a question instead
of he's asking the question, because that would be your response,
played again, Asinovsi.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I can barely ask this question. It's so good. It's
just so good.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Ryan Fitzpatrick, you can see him Amazon Prime Video Thursday
Night Analyst The Raiders take on the Chiefs. That'll be
black Friday, and coverage starts at three Eastern.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Only on Prime Videos.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
We welcome back Ryan Fitzpatrick, former quarterback, Harvard quarterback. Wait
do people mention that doesn't seem like they go, oh,
Ryan Fitzpatrick. Do you know he went to Harvard?

Speaker 13 (20:28):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (20:28):
No, it's disappointing.

Speaker 13 (20:29):
Although Harvard just lost to Yale, so I don't really
like to talk about Harvard. We did win the IVY title,
but we lost the most important game.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
How long does that stay with you when you lose
to Yale.

Speaker 14 (20:46):
Oh okay, I say that Harvard thing.

Speaker 13 (20:50):
You know what, you get ten games in the IVY
League and there's no chance of playoffs or anything like that,
So that's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 14 (20:58):
I was four, and oh.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Versus is there Ivy League smack talk that I'm not
aware of?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
There is? But it's more.

Speaker 14 (21:12):
You know that the safety school chance our big one.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (21:18):
Yeah, there's there's a couple of bad ones, but they're
they're all pretty pretty lame, pretty lame Ivy League humor.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
What was your safe safe school?

Speaker 13 (21:29):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (21:30):
Interesting question.

Speaker 13 (21:31):
I probably would have been It wouldn't have been another
IVY League school. It would have been walking on to
a place like Stanford or Notre Dame or Northwestern or
one of those schools.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Okay, all right, how would you sum up the AFC
so far?

Speaker 13 (21:51):
Uh? Well, we'll have Kansas City this week and I
can't wait to get a closer look.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (21:59):
You know, I was very vocal last year and saying,
you know, they needed to lose some games and there's
no chance they're going to win the Super Bowl. They
lost some games, and of course they won the Super
Bowl because as we know, Patrick Mahomes in close games
is always going to win it. But I love what
Buffalo's doing right now. I think the Texans they have

(22:21):
the team to get hot at the right time, but
obviously they're really struggling right now. Pittsburgh, we got to
see them up close and personal against Cleveland this last week,
and they're just they're not going to have the offense
to do it this year.

Speaker 14 (22:34):
I'm still really intrigued by the Ravens.

Speaker 13 (22:36):
I think this week will tell us a lot when
they're playing against the Eagles and.

Speaker 14 (22:40):
Then the Chargers.

Speaker 13 (22:42):
It's just a very specific way that they have to
win football games, which is good for playoff football. But
I just don't think they're going to be able to
put the pieces together this year on offense.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
All right. State of the NFC.

Speaker 14 (22:56):
The NFC, I mean there's some heavyweights, you know, obviously
starting with Detroit, and they look they look pretty unbeatable
right now. They've got a great formula, you know, and
the teams I like to look at, you know, teams
that can run the ball, which they can, but teams
that play great defense and can turn the ball over,

(23:17):
they can take it away and give it to their offense,
and three of the best four in the NFL right
now are Detroit, Minnesota and Green Bay. I think the Eagles.

Speaker 13 (23:27):
We got a close look at them against the Commanders,
and they can win games in a lot of different ways,
just like Detroit can. They can score with anybody, they
can play great defense. But I still Green Bay to
me is the sleeper team that I absolutely love. I
love the way they play, and it's all contingent on
Jordan Love and if he can get hot at the

(23:48):
right time, I think they're going to be really tough
in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
He's Ryan Fitzpatra game is on Prime Video Thursday Night
Analyst and you can see the Raiders taking on the
Chiefs on Black Friday their cover. It starts at three
Eastern only on Prime Video. We hear a lot about
organizations and it's dysfunctional, whether it's the Jets or it
could be you know, fill in the blank here. Did
you ever feel like you were part of a dysfunctional

(24:14):
organization and if so, how did you know it was dysfunctional?

Speaker 13 (24:20):
Well, I would say that was pretty much my career. Yeah,
I don't know, just the places I'd decided to go but.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 13 (24:31):
When you have great organizations, then you really start to
notice and feel how bad the other ones were. When
I was When I was in Tennessee, it wasn't great,
you know. When I was with the Jets, it actually
wasn't bad. And we've seen the way that's played out
these last two years. But Houston, for me, was a

(24:54):
good one. Houston, when I got there, saw the way
that it was run, the way that they cared for
their players. That was one that made me realize maybe
some of the ones I'd had in the past weren't great,
you know. Coming up my first two teams were Saint
Louis in Cincinnati, uh, and so you don't know any
better until you get somewhere else. But I also had

(25:16):
a really bad stretch everywhere I went. The owner died
shortly thereafter I had I mean, it was not a
good Georgia Frontier, unfortunately. And we had Ralph Winston, then
we had but Adams, then we had McNair, and it
was just a long list. I started looking at myself
like it must be me, but thankfully the last few survived.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Wow, that's some black humor there, that's dark humor there. Yeah, Yeah,
do you imagine, you know, a coach says, hey, you
know what, we could always bring in uh, Ryan Fitzpatrick,
and the owner goes, no, no, no, no, we can't
bring him in.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, no.

Speaker 14 (25:57):
Usually that's a different reason.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, if you had an MVP vote, who would get it?

Speaker 13 (26:05):
I feel like we struggle every week with recency bias
because it was definitely Lamar and then it was definitely Josh,
and now after watching Saquon Holy Smokes, I still it's
just hard to not give it to a.

Speaker 14 (26:18):
Quarterback because of how difficult the position is.

Speaker 13 (26:21):
So right now my vote is Josh Allen, but he's
going to have to beat Detroit. If he doesn't beat Detroit,
then he's not going to have a chance at the MVP.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
What's it like now you go through your career trying
not to say something. Now you're employed to say something,
and now your words have meaning and now.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
People hear it, players hear it. How you know?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Tell me about that transition from I don't want to
say anything to you know, upset anybody, to I might
say something that's going to upset somebody.

Speaker 13 (26:53):
Yeah, I think as long as it's rooted in the truth,
I've kind of come to terms with it's not It's
not a bad thing to speak your mind if it's
rooted in the truth. Now, if you've got a personal
vendetta and you're going after somebody, which.

Speaker 14 (27:08):
I think Belichick has been awesome to listen to.

Speaker 13 (27:12):
He has been so refreshing and his knowledge and everything
he says. But I feel like sometimes there's a different
angle that he's playing with some of the comments.

Speaker 14 (27:21):
That he makes about certain people.

Speaker 13 (27:23):
I think, as long as it's rooted in truth, then
it's okay that I haven't had a problem with it
at all. Then there's other situations. I have a very
unique perspective, So Daniel Jones for example, that's something that
I live. And I wasn't a franchise quarterback for six seasons,
but I had those little spurts where I was franchise quarterback.

(27:44):
I did get benched, I did have to go into
work the next day. So stuff like that becomes easy
for me to talk about because of the perspective that
I had and some of that experience that I can
share with everybody.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Okay, go back to Belichick. What's the angle that he's playing.

Speaker 13 (28:00):
Well, I you know, I think that some of his
some of his comments on Mayo were.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Heavy handed, a.

Speaker 13 (28:08):
Little heavy handed maybe because of the way it ended
there and how their relationship was at the end. But
there's there's some stuff you can you can read through
the lines a little bit.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
He says so many things, but he doesn't say them
in a loud way. We're we're so used to broadcasters
now hot take and I'm gonna say it loudly. There's
nothing loud about Belichick, So you kind of miss what
he's saying, or you know, because of how he's saying it,
and and there.

Speaker 13 (28:37):
But there's the thing I love about him is there's
purpose behind everything that he says. Like you said, it's
not it's not for the hot take, it's not for
the views. There's a purpose behind every little thing that
he says, you know, when most of it rooted in truth,
some of it rooted in vengeance. But I really have
enjoyed and he's been everywhere, but I've enjoyed listening to

(28:59):
him a lot.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Did you ask him what was the game plan when
you faced me?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
When he when he was facing you, like, I'd be curious,
tell me what the book was on me from Belichick's eyes?

Speaker 13 (29:13):
Yeah, I mean, I think I know the book. I
played him fourteen times. You know, it was essentially, let's
let's make this guy make mistakes. We're going to make
him beat us, play tight coverage, take away your best receiver,
whether you know it was Brandon Marshall when I was there,
DeVante Parker. But I had some some really bad memories

(29:36):
versus them. I mean playing playing against New England when
they were rolling, and then they've had some good ones too,
three different places, you know, in the AFC East. I
was able to beat them and beat Tom. But yeah,
three and eleven record, I don't. I don't think he
uh think the book.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and we'll be watching on Black Friday.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
It'll be the kNs, Chiefs and the Raiders. Thanks for
joining us again.

Speaker 14 (30:02):
Ryan, all right, thank you, looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
It, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Amazon Prime Video Thursday. But they're on
Friday afternoon, so Black Friday Afternoon the Raiders and the
Chiefs and the Chiefs are big favorites in that it
starts at three Eastern only on Prime Video. I thought
it was a good question, but then the way he
processed the question about Hey, did you ever ask Belichick, Hey,

(30:27):
what was the book on me? And then he's going, yeah,
I kind of know the book because they did it
many many times to me. Tight coverage, make me try
to win the game. Oh, time to play, guests the
NFL News game.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Here we go.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
It's a little fill in the blank ish. Former Giants
quarterback Danon Jones is going to sign with blank. I
want to sound with blank. Would you like to go
first or last?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Dan, I'll go last. Marvin uh the Raiders?

Speaker 14 (31:03):
See?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Oh boy? How about the Seahawks Baltimore? Oh yeah, Cowboys?

Speaker 7 (31:22):
Dan Jones plans to sign with the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Okay, Minnesota Vikings. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
I think that was the strong rumor this earlier in
the week. So he said he wanted to go to
a playoff contender and that's why he didn't want to
go to the Raiders. I don't know if the Cowboys
were interested. You're facing the Giants. I don't know if
you need Daniel Jones to help you beat the Giants.
But I think Baltimore and Buffalo were also in the mix.

(31:49):
But I'm just going by what was reported.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yes, Paul, if I told you three years ago that
Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones would both be on the
vikings as they make their playoff run. I mean, this
league never fails to disappoint.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, the NFL is undefeated. It is just when you go, well,
that can't happen. It just happened. I mean, might as
well put Aaron Rodgers on the vikings too. I mean,
let's just kind of finish this off, all right, let
me take a break. We'll look at the schedule this weekend,
the NFL and college games. More of your phone calls
as well, and Kenny Maine in the final hour, he's

(32:23):
got a documentary on whiffle ball.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
We're back after this.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
It's one of those quiet signings. The Dodgers have brought
in Blake Snell two times Cy Young Winner. It's like
everybody's talking about Juan Soto.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Let's bring in Blake Snell. No one will notice.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
All right, Let's see time to slide into the weekend.
Are great folks at King Sawan helping you slide into
the weekend with a slider Sunday. Make sure you make
every Sunday a slider Sunday. Let me look at some
of the items here. Eagles at the Ravens, Saucy. I've
been saying the Eagles are better than the Ravens, and

(33:15):
we're gonna see what they do going head to head,
and you get Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry as they go, well,
kind of head to head. Chargers at the Falcons. Falcons
got to figure out who they are here pretty soon.
These are two frustrating teams. Atlanta comes off a bye.
They lost consecutive games. They lost to the Saints and

(33:37):
the Broncos. I thought that they would be the class
of this division. College Football. Texas Texas A and M.
Whoever wins will clinch a birth in the SEC Championship
game against Georgia South Carolina Clemson. Clemson has to win.
South Carolina's won five in a row, shout out Darius Rutger,

(34:01):
and they're average and forty points a game during that
winning streak. Tennessee at Vandy, Diego Pavilla and the Commodores
Giant Killer before can they do that again? That would
certainly create little chaos there. Sliding into the weekend, King jawan,
get together with family and friends, enjoy the weekend by

(34:23):
making every Sunday a slighter Sunday time to play. In
or out. You're either in or you're out.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Just that simple, Dan, all right, Pauline, here we go.
These are ideas, concepts, teams, people, whatever. You just say
in or out and you can vample little if you want.
Interer out on the narrative that the SEC is having
a down year.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I'm going to say, I'm in on a down year.
I don't think you have a great team, and normally
the SEC has a great at least one great team.
Anybody in or out on that time.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
I am with you. I am in on them having
a down year.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Okay, Marvin, that makes three for three. I'm with you also,
all right, Paulton, Yeah, I'm in.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
I mean they're looking at where they could end up
with just two teams in the college football playoffs. That
is a disaster. That's not even a down year. That's
a massive failure. It'll be anarchy if down down.

Speaker 7 (35:24):
All right, in or out on, Alabama is still a
title contender, out out out out Oh man, Okay, this
was this is an interesting one.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
I have a theory behind it.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
Travis Hunter of Colorado oddly cannot lose the Heisman Trophy.
Here's my thesis. His story is, his vote is what
he's getting. He's playing both ways. That's not going to change.
He doesn't even have to have great games. The novelty
of what he does keeps going. Ashton Genty could have
an off day, can more to Miami's had an off day.

(36:02):
They've no one's taken it from him, and his story
keeps going. He can't lose at this point.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
In or out, I am out on the story just
because if Boise State makes the playoffs and Ashton Genty
continues to put up his numbers, maybe maybe he would
be able to sneak in and win this. Anybody in
or out with that story with Travis Hunter, tod I'm

(36:30):
in on that.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
I can see him winning the Heisman, And I like
Pauli's thesis as the explanation since he's playing both sides
of the ball. But if he's a little week on
one side, ends up stepping it up more on the
other side.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
So yeah, all right, Seaton, So let me just get
it clear. If I'm in that means I think he's
getting the Heisman. Yes, and if I'm out, I think
he won't get the highsman. Yeah, I think I'm out.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Okay, here we go. This is a biggie.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
Dion Sanders will sign a big extension at Colorado before
the NFL coaching hiring season starts.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm in, I mean and in.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
Here you go. Here's one. The Lions will drop fifty
tomorrow against the Bears.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
I'm in, by the way, I'm out, I'm out out
out Here we go two more.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
It's very weird to have the Raiders versus Chiefs on
a Friday afternoon, and I probably would have forgotten about it.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I'm in that I would have forgotten about it.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
I'm in because last year there was an NFL game
on Friday afternoon, and I think I tuned in at
the end of the second quarter.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Okay, Marvin, I'm in.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Also, I think I'm in because we had Ryan Fitzpatrick on.
If we didn't have Mona be like, oh damn, So.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
That means you're out. You wouldn't have forgot about it,
You're out of it.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I would have forgotten about it, you would have. I
would have if we didn't have Ryan Fitzpatrick on.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
And now you will remember.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
It now I remember because we had Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 7 (37:54):
On hence out last one. I'd be in favor of
completely revamping the Thanksgiving dinner tradition, the food, the entire menu.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
And are you in or out on that? I'm out?

Speaker 7 (38:14):
Some people want to change turkey. There's a lot of
anti turkey sentiment in this room today.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Who's anti turkey in here? Let's semi overrated.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
I mean, I think we spent like the first hour
talking about how we would all take sides over turkey. Yeah,
I mean that's kind of anti turkey sentiment. I mean,
and it was like universally agreed upon.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah. But that doesn't mean I want to change the menu.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Yeah, I don't really. I mean I don't want turkey
taking off the menu either.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
But what are you putting on the menu a completely
new thing?

Speaker 12 (38:45):
What if?

Speaker 7 (38:45):
Who is a meat loaf?

Speaker 3 (38:48):
No? God, no, no, you have PTSD for meat. Oh
I don't want meat loaf. Oh No, it's good. Turkey's good.

Speaker 7 (38:58):
That's in or out.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I'm gonna have it twice this week. Yes, Marv, what's
the best side for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 9 (39:06):
Me?

Speaker 3 (39:08):
What's wrong with you? What's on the men here?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well? No, I'm here I mean, I'm you want me
in there? Me and I didn't say it like that.
I said me, No, it wasn't creepy.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I did not. I didn't he me. And on radio
they couldn't see you do the body as you did it. Yeah,
you're like me.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Joel in des Monet, Hey Joel, what's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (39:39):
SUBDPDN its second time long time five six one sixty
five cro was up last time I called in. On
my first time, I didn't get to hear that famous
dibble bell, so it sounded really good to hear that.
I like the guys are saying it's Thanksgiving time, wanted
to call in give thanks for you guys. There's nothing
better than starting every morning off with some good laughs.

(40:01):
I actually was really hoping Fritzy had some Thanksgiving rhyme
times for us. Get me every time I'm in time,
I hear it. But hope everyone has a great meatish
Wednesday and Thanksgiving tomorrow. I do want to throw my
hat in the ring for when you guys come to Iowa.
I used to be one of the golf pros at
Waveland Golf Course here in Des Moines. It's the local
municipal course. It's fun fact it was built in nineteen

(40:24):
oh one. Is the oldest muni west of the Mississippi.
It's always a great time. It's right in the heart
of the city of Des Moines. Get you guys out
for a round of golf, come back for some backyard
beers and barbecue.

Speaker 11 (40:35):
Could be a heck of the time.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
So all right, well, thank you, Joel. A lot of
great invitations from people in Iowa. I'm going to take
you up on some of these offers. Maybe next spring
or summer. Final hour on the way, more phone calls,
Todd's Thanksgiving Day sports names, and Kenny Maine on his
documentary Whiffle Ball.
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