August 20, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan addresses the conjecture that Nick Saban would consider coaching the Cleveland Browns if they end up drafting Texas QB Arch Manning. And he talks to former NFL TE Greg Olsen about the headlines coming out of the NFL Preseason.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, we'll talk some football with Greg Olsen,
the Fox analyst. He'll join us coming up a little bit. Also,
former All Star pitcher now the Dodgers pitching coach, Mark
Pryor will stop by, as will Ross Tucker of Westwood
One and CBS. Glad to have you on board. Gang's
all here, morale is high, Fritzi's here, the Minister of
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humor seat, and Marv Paulie yours truly. And of course
Paulie's shirt. If you're watching on Peacock, you might have
an opinion. I likened it to Erkele when he wore
those suspenders. It looks like Paully has suspenders on. And
we asked this great audience to maybe give us a
comment on Pauli's shirt. One response, It reminds me of
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the tennis sweaters from the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's another one. I have the same shirt. I love it.
I get a ton of compliments from the ladies. And
also this one, Paul's shirt looks like something Tony Hano
would have worn.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Oh less of a compliment. Oh yeah, I don't know
that one's a compliment. The tennis sweater thing, I.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Like, okay, and I think, uh, basically it's gone over
well in the room. I'm probably with Seton Seaton said
it's very polly like. Todd liked it, which should bother
Paulie and Marvin. You you're all in on this.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
But I'm really hoping he has something to do after this.
Oh yeah, like maybe definitely a family photo sears or
something like that.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
That's definitely Paul's got a meeting outfit for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, do you have something going on after the show? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And I addressed accordingly.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Okay, yes, Tom, I think it's the West Hartford Open.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I think they're in town.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
They got they got the doubles.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Matches like that one tennis man. No, No, I'm not
piling on just I wasn't quite sure what.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
That was a point that was trying to make.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I even miss the mark obviously, but I've started about
some kind of golfing that I guess I'm assuming that's
what you call.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I wasn't quite sure if it was tennis or golf.
But all right, welcome to the program. Already in progress.
We'll have a new poll question for hour or two
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spent a little bit of time talking about the Colt
situation at quarterback. Anthony Richardson is once again on the sidelines.
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Daniel Jones come on down, and Richardson is still one
of the league's bigger questioned marks. He's in two years,
played less than a full season worth of games. But
he's younger than Caleb Williams. He's younger than Shador Sanders,
younger than Bo Nicks and Michael Pennix Junior the third.
So Jones comes in and he's had peaks and valleys
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and got out of New York and he gets his
second chance like Baker Mayfield's had and Geno Smith Sam
Darnold Richardson. It might be the beginning of fading into
the Josh Rosen category, a talent we never fully saw
or realized. And the offense belongs to Daniel Jones. And
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just like Anthony Richardson's career, the story where it goes
from here is really anybody's guests. But a lot of
these decisions are made on the stability or lack of
stability with the coaching staff, just like the Giants with
Russell Wilson, and just like the Colts with what's going
on with Jackson Dart or I should say, with Anthony
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Richardson and Daniel Jones. You got Jackson dart who was
drafted in the first round by the Giants. Can you
go with him? Knowing if you start out one in
eight and they could easily start out one and eight,
those coaches, the coach and GM might not last, all right.
Poll question Seaton for hour two is going to be what.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, let me update you here.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
We got one from Marvin pick one to make the
Pro Bowl this season, danielil Jones, Justin Fields, Joe Flacco,
Russell Wilson, dang man, this is a crazy one. There's
a three way tie for second right now. Justin Field's
running away with it. Wow, to make the Pro Bowl
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this year, that's a wild one.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah. I picked Daniel Jones. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
The Colts were eight and nine last year, and they
have a division that's not hard to steal a playoff
spot from.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So you're saying maybe nine and eight Jones.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
The Daniel Jones ramp up is not that as hard
as if he was in other divisions.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, I feel better about their playoff chance. Yes, with
Daniel Jones. But once again, where are you going with
your franchise unless you admit now we made a mistake.
I saw where Dan Orlovski he posted this on potential
landing spots teams that should offer the Colts a mid
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round pick for Anthony Richardson. This is according to Dan
Rolovsky of The mother Ship Eagles. Eagles have Tanner McKee.
Now he's a six und pick out of Stanford, and
he's actually performed pretty well in the preseason. You got
the Rams. The Rams, you have Jimmy Garoppolo, and you
have Stetson Bennett Junior fourth, and then you have the Vikings.
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Sam Howell is the backup to JJ McCarthy. Richardson's only
twenty three. He has eleven touchdown passes thirteen interceptions in
fifteen career games. But according to Orlovsky, maybe a mid
round draft pick could get you Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
How about a team like the Ravens. They have a
run and pass quarterback already who's great, but you put
him behind Lamar Jackson. Learn from Lamar Jackson and use
him in maybe a wildcat situation or something else. They
have Cooper Rush and someone named Devin Leary. They're not
exactly set at the backup position, and you can make
the my development project.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know if I want Anthony Richardson trying to
emulate Lamar Jackson, because Lamar Jackson, you know, he is
a very underrated passer and maybe people are finally realizing
it might not look like Tom Brady, but he is
a very good passer. He's a good passer, Anthony Richardson,
he is not a good passer.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Footwork's terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
But these things, I feel like you can teach these things,
but it's the willingness to learn, and then can you
actually command an offense? You know, there with John Harball
and Lamar Jackson, okay, maybe you would get a couple
of reps in a blowout game, but he needs I
feel like we got to play him to find out
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if he can play. And maybe that's what the Colts
have already found out. You know, maybe you put him
in a developmental league and find out if he can play.
But on this stage, he hasn't been able to play.
The other quarterbacking situation got a little headline. Kines was
Arch Manning, not to be confused with Archie Manning, his
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grandfather and grandfather who Arch is named after, was talking
about how it's almost a foregone conclusion that arch will
go back to Texas after this season, and then arch said, well,
you know, I haven't really played, and do we have
a little bit of that? Is there any any comment?
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I think it was pretty quick of Archie saying, oh,
you know, kind of misspoke. They walked it back a
little bit, but arch was saying, you know, I haven't
even played yet, and you know nothing's decided.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, the arch audio is all garbled. But
Arch Manning said, I don't know where he got that from,
referring to his grandfather. He texted me to apologize about
all that. I'm really just taking it day by day
right now.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, Well, I do think he'll play two years at Texas.
I think it'll be this year next year. Did you
see where Nick Saban I think he was on with
Greg McElroy's former quarterback, and McElroy's the first one I
think who came out and said hey I'm here, and
Sabin coming back, and then Lane Kiffin said something. Colin
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Cowherd had it that Saban was going to go to
the Browns and they were going to draft Arch Manning,
which sounds great in theory but not in reality because
you'd have to have the number one pick. And what
happens if Saban you know, hey, I'll take the job,
but Arch is going to.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Go back to Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And I think that Sabin kind of said to McElroy,
made fun of the fact that he had him, you know,
going to coach in the NFL again, and as only
Saban can tied you. But yeah, I thought that that
was interesting. And look, well Colin said it was the
worst kept secret in the South. But you know when
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it came out, I'm like, I had not heard that,
And there's probably a reason because it doesn't make sense that, Yeah,
if the Browns get Arch Manning and Nick Saban wants
to come out of retirement at age seventy four, but
there's a lot of things that have to happen for
him to go. Don't give up the TV gig. You've
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proven you're one of the great coaches of all time.
You're making great money, there's no stress, and you get
a long off season you'd be crazy to go back,
and you know I'm going to go back to Cleveland.
I'll make it right. He was an assistant coach with Belichick.
But I like that Sabin gave Greg McElroy a little
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grief there, because maybe it was McElroy who then told
Lane Kiffin, who was an assistant coach at Alabama, and
then all of a sudden it started to get out
more nationally. But so pole question, do we have it
for hour two Seaton?
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Yeah, we got one right now that we're working on.
More interesting choice Dylan's shoes or Paul's shirt. Little bit
of a style off happening today. Dylan, the graphics guy
in the back is wearing what I've been describing as
Nickelodeon yeezis. I'm not really sure exactly what those are
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all about, but they're very typically Dylan, Okay, much like
Paul's shirt is typically Paul's. They're both perfect examples of
their personal fashion.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, my style could be summarized maybe like
a yacht rock type thing, and Dylan's would be like
he looks like he could be related to John Daily
with wihi's outfits. Okay, I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
One other topic here and this won't get headlines, but
it does with us. John Wall's career is over. And
this is one of those where you go he was.
He was kind of a internet sensation. There was there
was talk about John Wall before he got to Kentucky,
and he was the number one overall pick. In fact,
when he was going to his press conference that morning,
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he was with his mother and he called into the show.
And here we are, how many years later, and his
career is over. Five time All Star, he was an
All Defense selection, He won a slam Dunk contest. He
was very very good at Kentucky, one of the fastest
players in the league. But he went from being really
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good to being told we don't want you to play,
but we're still going to pay you. The Rockets I
think paid him forty two million dollars to not play.
I can't remember an NBA career where you had somebody
who was that good. No, granted he put up numbers
with Washington, but still I might have been five consecutive
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All Star appearances, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, that's right, aged twenty three to twenty seven. Five
All Star appearances. He had seasons with twenty three and eleven. Uh,
he was you know, second in the league and assists.
One year he was second for Rookie of the Year.
He had a very nice run. It's tough to quantify
his career because you can't say bust. But it didn't
live up to the hype. Marvin and I were talking
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about it. He was early social media guy. Where the
social media and he was on it before he even
got to Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But you go from being an All Star to being
told that you're on the roster or we're going to
pay you. We have to pay you, but we don't
want you to play like he was a healthy scratch. Yes,
Marvin forty four And we've always said this too.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
We always mentioned John wall like, look, he's making forty
four million dollars to not play. That's how we talked
about John Wall post Is Washington ds that him and we.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Do career salary? Can we play the career salary game
with John Waller for years he is, he's up there.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Salary.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Salary, salary, salar, salary, salary.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
Salary, Okay, and he excused to play that career salary game.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
John Wall.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
John Wall was in the league for eleven years. He
played for nine years, not including his Kentucky salary. Oh wow,
they're proud of that down there.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
They don't care what five billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Okay, closest to the whole, John Wall as a rookie
made five point one million in twenty twenty one twenty two,
the Rockets paid him forty four million to not play
basketball whilst healthy total salary with John Wall, Marvin, you start, I'm.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Gonna say two seventy five.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Seating.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I'm going to seventy six. God, I got a box, Marvin. Now,
two seventy five is right right there. I had to
seventy five and one dollar, But I'll go to seventy six.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
All right, Todd two forty four point seven, I'm gonna
go to seventy seven. Oh that's you know what?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
You know?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
What are you throwing a flag?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Let me hold on, let me pull it out of
my pant leg here?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Okay? Well through the BS flags?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Why you want to go last? Two hundred and eighty
six million dollars for John Wall time.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
That's not bad.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's not bad. Good living those contracts. That's why when
I hear about the other sports with contracts in the
NBA everybody's making you know, thirty forty million dollars a year,
it feels like.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And they all get paid. They're all guaranteed, yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Of his two hundred and eighty six million dollars that
John Wall earned, he made two hundred million out of
it after he stopped being an All Star?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Who is his agent? Darrell Reeves like he's on a
boat somewhere. Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Mission accomplished right there, That is mission accomplished. I'm an
All Star now on a Supermax or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yep, sign me up, sign me up, hey, sell me Okay?
All right, So Mark prior to the Dodger pitching coach
will join us next hour. Ross Tucker will stop by
as well. But up next we'll talk some football with
Greg Olsen from Fox. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.
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the Rockets paid John Wall? Was it close to two
hundred million dollars to play forty games?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
John Wall was paid one hundred and twenty six million
dollars so over the course of four seasons to play
forty basketball games. Dang, it's actually worse than the Ben
Simmons deal. Ben Simmons with the Brooklyn his the Ben
Simmons era with Brooklyn sixty nine games played, one hundred
and twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Dang, dang, those guys get paid in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
They do, and they get paid, Yeah, to not play,
that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yes, Marvin Trey Hendrickson is looking for Isaiah Hartenstein numbers. Yeah,
for a guy to set screens and grab eight rebounds
a game, same amount of money.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yep, Yeah, just different players, Association, TV deals, all those.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Here's a different question. Would you rather make forty million
dollars a season to not play or thirty five million
dollars a season and you get to play?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Would I rather be John wallen Houston or TJ. Watt
in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Why just sitting watching basketball? The others actively participating.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But five million less, I'd still rather be TJ. Watt.
You know, I gotta play. Hey, you want to play?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I mean, you're still making great money. I don't think
John Wall was like, I mean, maybe John wall might
have been like, I don't know, I don't really feel
like playing.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
He's gonna sit back. I can cash all these checks.
But I don't think so. I think he wanted to.
He didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
He didn't even have to say that. They told him, Hey,
why did you just sit back and relax?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
John?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
We owe you this money. Like, how bad do you
have to be at that point in your career where
they don't want you to even be on the roster.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yeah, point the season before is the sitout season? No
injury listed was twenty one, twenty two. In twenty and
twenty one, John Wall averaged twenty one points and seven
assists a game as their starting point guard.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
He was good, still good. But what happened.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
They went a different direction with like younger players, and
I think he was the odd man out and decided
just to hit him a healthy scratch.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But nobody wanted a guy who could put up twenty
and ten.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Now because it was he was thirty one years old
making forty four million dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, they're all making that kind of crazy money, aren't they.
What's Isaiah Hartenstein of ok C making?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Is he making? Does he make more than TJ? Watt?
Speaker 11 (19:22):
Does?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He probably does that old question? Yeah, Isaiah Hartenstein.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I got Isaiah Hartenstein. He just signed a new deal, right,
I think, Yeah, he's gonna make twenty eight five next year.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Oh okay, so he's kind of he's making more than
Trey Hendrickson is. Now, these contracts are crazy crazy in basketball.
Greg Olsen, he's a Fox analyst, three time pro bowler,
joining us on the program. What was your best salary
in the NFL?
Speaker 12 (19:57):
I say, towards the end of my career, I probably
was making seven million, and now the best tight ends
in the league are making sixteen.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Did you ever participate in negotiations, be in the room
when they're discussing your contract.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
No.
Speaker 12 (20:13):
No, My agent, Drew Rosenhaus. I had him since I
came out of Miami. He handled all negotiations. I mean,
I was up to speed. He would call me and
debrief me in pretty good detail along the you know
along what was said and what the conversations in the
back and forth. But now I never participated directly. I
tried to stay out of that and just let him handle,
kind of being the go between between myself and the organization.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Why is Jerry Jones allowed to negotiate with Michael Parsons
individually when I think the CBA says, your agent has
to be in there to, you know, negotiate.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
That's a great question, and I thought all along that
was a very interesting part of the conversation. I know
you guys now are bringing it up and discussing it.
I don't I don't know the exact reasons. I don't
know the exact legalities of what's in the CBA by writing.
But my understanding was always players can represent themselves. There's
multiple players throughout the league for a long time that
have negotiated their own contracts because they don't have a
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registered contract agent on file with the NFLPA or you
know all that. So in that regard, you would work
directly with the general manager of the front office to
negotiate on your own behalf.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
But my understanding was if.
Speaker 12 (21:25):
You had representation and that was filed with the with
the PA and all that, that they should be the
go between. So I'm not sure the exact specifics, but
I think it's a great question.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
I just think it adds to what we're seeing now.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
It leads to this, This is why players have agents.
And I know three percent is kicked around and that's
being now negotiated to a lower number for a lot
of young players, and I get it, but this is
why you pay the money to keep the personal animosity
out of the way between you. These contracts get tough.
Whether you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Micah Parson
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or a guy further down the roster, the team is
gonna use every bit of leverage they had. They're gonna
tell your agent or in this case, yourself, reasons why
you shouldn't make what you want, and then you're gonna
try to counter that, and it's gonna get testy. It's
inevitable nature of negotiations, and that's why having that buffer
in between keeps things from getting personal like we're seeing
here in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
More concerning, let's take Michael Parsons out of the equation,
because I do think that deal will get done. The
Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals or Terry McLaurin which one
is more damaging to that team's potential success this season? Man,
that's a great question.
Speaker 12 (22:37):
I would say Hendrickson up in Cincinnati, just because we
know how much conversation it has surrounded the Bengals defense.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
They fired the DC, they hire.
Speaker 12 (22:45):
Al Golden, you know, the longtime college DC from Penn
State who was most recently in Penn State, I mean
a Notre dame. I guess my question is, can that
defense be they weren't very good to begin with last year,
and Joe Burrow had an unbelievable season, and they still
fell short of expectations. With the whole emphasis in the
offseason for them getting back into the likes of the
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Bills and the Ravens and the Chiefs to get themselves
back in the AFC to that echelon with Joe Burrow.
They can't do it without the defense getting better. And
now you take away the sack leader, you take away
your best defensive player. Can you assume that you're going
to be back in Super Bowl contention to compliment one
of the best offenses in football? So I would say
for them, this is a significant storyline. And if they
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can't figure it out what was already a weakness, now
you take away your best player, you have to assume
it's even worse.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Help me understand why Anthony Richardson would be the bust
and not the Colts general manager Chris Ballard because Anthony
Richardson didn't take himself at four overall the Colts did.
They took a project that high who wasn't he had
glimpses in college. But you starting week one, like I'm
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just trying to under and the kid is twenty three
years of age, and it feels like the NFL will
move on from him.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
Yeah, And I'll again, this is not an indictment of
Anthony Richardson. I don't know the kid that well.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
I don't know the ins and outs behind the scenes there.
Speaker 12 (24:15):
But I will say this in credit to Chris Ballard,
I think the best guys in the NFL, whether it's coaches,
front office, personnel, general managers, when you know you've made
a mistake. I think the teams that continue to double down,
double down and prolong this experiment end up finding themselves
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out of work. I think the best organizations understand, you
know what, this was a miss and now this is
a big one. Right, you take a top five quarterback,
it's set your franchise back multiple years. But if you
continue to push it down the road and say it's
gonna change, it's gonna change. And I can't admit failure,
I can't admit that I was wrong. Typically that blows
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up the entire organization. And there's enough another general manager there,
so I do give him a little bit credit.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
It's behind the scenes.
Speaker 12 (25:04):
Him and Shane stike In are saying, you know what
we missed, he's not the guy Daniel Jones gives us
a better chance to win. I almost think that's the
more difficult decision and one that they if it was
even close, Anthony Richardson, just because of his draft pedigree,
would be the Week one starter. So I think we
see this all the time in free agency. The Eagles
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just won the Super Bowl and huffed their big free agents.
Signing from the Jets, they paid a bazillion dollars he
didn't play down the stretch and guess what this year
they shipped him off for pennies on the dollar to
another organization. And Howie Roseman said, you know what, I
missed on that one. But we're gonna move on. So
it's different when it's the quarterback. But the good organizations
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admit defeat, They admit when they were wrong, and you
got to move on.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I think that's really a great point and I had
not thought of that, and maybe that's what the Colts
are doing that Yes, we saw two years and he's
not our guy. Now maybe you can trade it to somebody,
and maybe he could. We're you know, we're seeing this
cycle now far more than we used to two years,
maybe three years didn't work out. Now you go, you're
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going to be a backup, and it's like almost the
Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Gino Smith. You know, well, we'll
bring you back around. Maybe it's a better coaching staff,
maybe it's a better team, and maybe Anthony Richardson still
has a future. We're talking to Greg Olsen, Fox NFL
analyst and you can tune in to Youth Inc. And
(26:30):
Greg has a weekly podcast. He had Tom Brady on,
Malcolm Gladwell on, and you're talking about sports and parenting
and the next generation of athletes. How'd you come up
with this idea?
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Yeah, so it's actually been a really a really fun
project for us. You know, I'm a dad of three.
I'm the son of a high school football coach from
New Jersey, legendary coach out of the Northeast, coached over
forty years, coach me and my brother.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
So I grew up in this world.
Speaker 12 (26:56):
Like when I was a young kid, the highlight of
our life was playing varsity foot one day for my dad.
Fortunately I was able to go on and make a
career out of it. But now as a father raising
three young kids in a very different youth sports culture
than any of us, remember, and any of us really
grew up in and there was a lot of things
that we were doing wrong, a lot of things that
I didn't have a great idea of what the right
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path forward was for my sons and my daughter. And
we said, you know what, there's a lot of really
interesting people out there that have great perspectives and great
lessons to be shared, and let's go find those people.
So we've had a lot of really cool conversations our
latest season that we just dropped.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
You know, you mentioned Tom Brady. We had Malcolm Gladwell
this year.
Speaker 12 (27:37):
This week and next week we'll have Ryan Day coming
off the National champions getting ready for that big Texas game,
and CJ. Stroud and just some really fun and really
insightful people that have really good experiences that can be
great for parents, coaches, young athletes, people dealing with different adversities.
We think it can really help a lot of people.
And along the way, as the host, quote unquote, I'm
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learning more than anyone and trying to implement a lot
of these values and lessons into my own youth coaching
and also into just my parenting.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's a Youth Inc. I n C and it's a
weekly podcast. I was curious about this when we were
going to have you on of how much of your
job now as a broadcaster for Fox is your football
knowledge and how much of it is the ability to
understand TV.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
Well.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
I think it's a great question because I joke with
my with my producer and director all the time. Like
the football part, I always felt pretty good about. You know,
the football part, I felt like I always understood and
I saw and I really enjoy talking the game and
formulating different storylines to present to the viewer and letting
them kind of unravel in real time during the broadcast.
The TV part is the part I think all of
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us have to learn, right. You have to learn how
to go in and out of commercial breaks. You have
to learn how to talk to the truck. You know.
I always joke I still to this point day when
I want it behind the d you know the fancy
TV people call it. You know, I want the pit,
you know, I want pit framing. I'm like, I just
want behind the defense whatever that is called.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
Give me that.
Speaker 12 (29:09):
So I'm still learning some of the nuance, the terminology
where all the cameras are and I've gotten a lot
better now going into my fifth year. But it's it's
very interesting. The football part. I feel like that's that's
the easy part, making that fit into a three hour
live broadcast, talk in segments, talking soundbites, not talking over
your play by play, commercial breaks, ad reads. Fortunately, I've
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had great partners. I got Joe Davis now, who's incredible,
Kevin Burkhart before that, they handle all the TV and
I tell him I'll just do the football part.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
So it's I've been lucky in that regard.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, you're on a play clock too, though, when you
think about it, that you might have twelve seconds to
describe something and then you've got to turn it over
to your play by play guy so he can do
his job. And this is where Jim Nantz is unbelievable,
because Tony Rome, Oh, Tony will kind of color outside
the lines sometime and all of a sudden, you know,
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Jim's got to grab it at the last second and
you know, go third and eight, you know. So I
understand the timing part of it, but so many guys
that came through ESPN, these are legendary coaches and players,
and I said, you got to understand TV, and even
Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungee on Football Night in America.
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I said, you guys are rookies. You know nothing about TV.
Listen to me and you'll do fine. You know football,
but that's only part of the equation. They'd look at you,
go you just talk. I go no if I if
somebody in your ear goes, hey, you got twenty seconds. Well,
you don't know what twenty seconds is in real time
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playing a game, you do twenty seconds in TV. You're like, uh,
I don't know how long? How long am I going?
You went forty two seconds? You're like, I did it?
Speaker 7 (30:54):
No, And you're spot on.
Speaker 12 (30:55):
And the voice in your ear is an adjustment early
on in my career, the natural instinct of anybody is
when someone says something to you while you're talking, you
stop and you want to listen. Well, obviously you sound
silly on live television if you do that. To your
point about play by play guys, there's no such thing
as a good color analyst without a good play by
play guy.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
They are the heroes of all of this.
Speaker 12 (31:18):
They are the professionals, quote unquote, like they keep this
train on the tracks running and give you the space
and the breath, and the leads to then talk about
the things that they really know you're interested in or
you feel good about, and you want to take the broadcast.
So it is more of a dance. It is a rhythm.
It's ever changing. Every game has a different cadence. There's
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games that have a million penalties and a million commercial
breaks and a million injuries. Those get super choppy, and
then there's the dream games, which every play is a long,
fluid drive. There's multiple first downs in every possession. You
can really let some of these storylines unravel. You don't
feel like you have to force it in because it's
a three and out punt commercial. So again, it's it's
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a that the part of the the part of the
experience that I've enjoyed the most is the unpredictability of it,
where you don't you have a basic idea of the matchup,
You have a basic idea of the flow of the game,
but then once it's kicked off, no different than a player,
nobody can sit there and say I know exactly how
this game is going to go, and I'm going to
talk about X, Y and Z in that order. Chances
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are that's going to be thrown upside down, and then
you have to adjust on the fly and make it
sound fun and interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I had a couple of rapid fire questions before we
let you go. Who feels more hall of fate? Who
feels more hall of faming? Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Wow, that's a great question.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
Kind of interesting career arcs, right like Russell started out
so hot and now down the stretch trying to find
his way. Stafford obviously started in a perennially terrible or team,
got them a little bit better and then has had
his success later. Oh man, I think creatures of the
moment Stafford. It feels like because just because the last
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memories we have of his his teams have been more
relevant as of recent Russ. For as amazing as Russ
has been a lot of you know, his success came.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 12 (33:17):
But I think if you put a gun to my head,
just recency bias, would be Stafford. But I would probably
make the argument that they both are deserving.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
If I take the names off the resumes, it's a
no brainer. It's Russell Wilson.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Interesting because that's what I like. Yeah, the Pro Bowls.
Speaker 12 (33:35):
I think it's reccency bias, which was kind of my
initial instinct with Stafford. In my mind, there's no question
that Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer. I think
everyone's going to try to use the last couple of
years of kind of bouncing finding a home, but they
forget just how dominant he was. I know Seattle was incredible.
I know the defense, but that that shouldn't be taken away.
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In my mind, Russell's a Hall of the way you
pose the question you posed was such a good one.
I think the recency success of the Rams, the Super Bowl,
and Stafford post Detroit, I could see that being the argument.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Is Cam Newton all Hall of Famer?
Speaker 12 (34:17):
Yeah? In my mind he is, and I think you
have to look past I don't know where. I have
no idea where he stands in total yards passing and
total touchdowns. I don't know statistically, which I know is
a big part of that process. When you talk about
changing the way the game is played, quarterbacks running the
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ball on short yardage, quarterbacks playing you know, down near
the goal line. The ability to still be a four
thousand yard passer from the pocket when he came into
the league. There was very few, if any guy's playing
the quarterback position the way he played it. And now
there's almost no pocket passers left, or there's you know, Burrow,
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there's a couple. But the game is on the move,
the game is played athletically, both in and out of
the pocket, and Cam was at the front end of
a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Great stuff. Great to talk to you. Hope you have
a great season coming up. We'll check in with you
and the podcast, it's a weekly podcast. It's entitled Youth Inc.
With Greg Olsen. Next guest will be Ryan Day.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
C J.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Stroud is also on the guest list, and he's already
had a podcast tape with Tom Brady and the author
Malcolm Gladwell. Thanks again, Greg, great spe Thanks Dan. We'll
take a break when we come back. The most interesting
NFL team.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
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Speaker 3 (35:50):
Chris and Syracuse. Hi Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (35:53):
Hey? Thanks Dan?
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Hey.
Speaker 13 (35:54):
In the first hour, you were mentioning about when the
Reds and Dodgers are in the same division in the
NL West. And remember in the seventies, Dan and they
were both so good that there were years when one
of them would win a ninety nine one hundred games
and they wouldn't even make the playoffs. And yesterday you
were mentioning about Jerry Jones dropping the Micah contract, getting
it done at the most opportune time for publicity. I'm
(36:16):
wonderful to do the same thing that he did with
Dak on the eve or the day of the season opener.
He'll drop the news, which this year at Philadelphia Dallas
on NBC at night. He'll probably drop it in the afternoon,
and lastly, off a play of the day Yankee sitting
nine home runs. Last time they did that was sometime
in April, and that game was the catalyst to all
this torpedo bat talk for three four days and then
(36:39):
it was gone. Now we're pushing late August, we haven't
heard about it.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I know, I know it was changing the sport. It's
ruining baseball. Torpedo bats and then all of a sudden
they disappeared. Jerry is not going to wait until that
day of when the Cowboys play the Eagles, because you
need Michael Parsons in Dak Prescott was in camp. They
were just going to get a new deal done, and
(37:05):
Jerry said, we'll get a new deal done. This is
different Michael Parsons. He's not practicing, and you can't just say, hey,
your deal is done. Now suit up and go play
against the Eagles tonight.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Most interesting team in the NFL, whatever your criteria is,
doesn't have to be the most exciting, doesn't have to
be the best. It could be a bad team. Most
interesting team in the NFL, Todd.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I find the whole division very interesting. I'm going with
Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm extremely interested to
see what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Okay, all right, once again, it's your criteria, your your
blueprint for interesting.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Seaton. Most interesting team in the NFL is Well.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I was gonna say the Pittsburgh Steelers as well, but
I'll change that up to it's kind of a toss
up between two teams. I'll go with the Las Vegas Raiders.
I think they're actually a really interesting team this year.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
All Right, Marvin, the Atlanta Falcons, Michael Pennix, all those weapons, Bijon,
Drake London, Kyle Pitts. I'm interested to see what they do.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Was it a local Atlanta or Savannah TV station that
had Michael Pennix and they had the font underneath and
they didn't spell Penix. They put an S in there
correct and yeah, so you could. How does that happen?
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How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Paulie?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
The most interesting team in the NFL is I love
all three picks.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I love the Falcons pick Penix always raises up every
team he's on. I'm going with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
ten and seven. They outscored their opponents by one hundred
and seventeen points last year. Baker Mayfield threw for forty
one touchdowns sixteen picks, forty one touchdowns. It feels like
they're that close if one of the heavyweights in the
NFC can slip up.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, Seaton. Did no one see the Commanders?
Speaker 6 (39:10):
No one did, because they're they're definitely they would be
my other team. That is absolutely the most interesting.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Are we doing round two? Most interesting? Okay?
Speaker 11 (39:23):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Todd bo Nicks in the Denver broncos Hip. Sorry, are
they gonna live up to everyone's on the Bronco.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Bandwag let's see what they're yes, Marvin the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
That's my pick as well, because even if Trey Hendrickson
comes back in plays, how much of an impact you're
gonna be leading with your offense. Joe Burrows put on
a pedestal and he's gonna have to be even better,
uh than what he's been. And he was great last
part of the season. You know they ever talked about
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him MVP conversation for Joe.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
All right, Paulieu, With my final pick of the draft,
I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings fourteen and three last
year and they replaced their quarterback with a guy who
hasn't taken a pro stap yet. That is a good
but dicey situation.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Let's see Dane in Texas. Hey Dane, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (40:24):
Good morning, Dan. How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (40:26):
Good? Sir?
Speaker 11 (40:28):
I'd just like to thank you for suggesting. I guess
you had one of the ways brothers or both of
them talking without America's team. Oh cow, it was amazing, Dan,
You know, I get the best way to sum it up.
It was like Quentin Tarantino meets Tennessee Williams. You know,
the truth is stranger than fiction. It was brilliant, all right.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Well, thank you, Dan. Yeah, I saw the first episode.
Now I'm not learning a lot, But you know, maybe
it's not fair for me to say that in my
position because I've heard a lot of this, most of
this stuff. In fact, we've had some of the Cowboys
on telling some of these stories. But it if you're
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a cowboy fan, you'll love it. All right, Well, take
a break. Final hour coming up, Dodger pitching coach, Mark
Pryor and Ross Tucker our good buddy as well. Hope
you'll stay with us. Seton, Paulie, mar Fritzie and yours.
Truly we're back after this
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, we'll talk some football with Greg Olsen,
the Fox analyst. He'll join us coming up a little bit. Also,
former All Star pitcher now the Dodgers pitching coach, Mark
Pryor will stop by, as will Ross Tucker of Westwood
One and CBS. Glad to have you on board. Gang's
all here, morale is high, Fritzi's here, the Minister of
(00:25):
humor seat, and Marv Paulie yours truly. And of course
Paulie's shirt. If you're watching on Peacock, you might have
an opinion. I likened it to Erkele when he wore
those suspenders. It looks like Paully has suspenders on. And
we asked this great audience to maybe give us a
comment on Pauli's shirt. One response, It reminds me of
(00:46):
the tennis sweaters from the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's another one. I have the same shirt. I love it.
I get a ton of compliments from the ladies. And
also this one, Paul's shirt looks like something Tony Hano
would have worn.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Oh less of a compliment. Oh yeah, I don't know
that one's a compliment. The tennis sweater thing, I.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Like, okay, and I think, uh, basically it's gone over
well in the room. I'm probably with Seton Seaton said
it's very polly like. Todd liked it, which should bother
Paulie and Marvin. You you're all in on this.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
But I'm really hoping he has something to do after this.
Oh yeah, like maybe definitely a family photo sears or
something like that.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
That's definitely Paul's got a meeting outfit for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, do you have something going on after the show? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
And I addressed accordingly.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Okay, yes, Tom, I think it's the West Hartford Open.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I think they're in town.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
They got they got the doubles.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Matches like that one tennis man. No, No, I'm not
piling on just I wasn't quite sure what.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
That was a point that was trying to make.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I even miss the mark obviously, but I've started about
some kind of golfing that I guess I'm assuming that's
what you call.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I wasn't quite sure if it was tennis or golf.
But all right, welcome to the program. Already in progress.
We'll have a new poll question for hour or two
your phone calls eight seven to seven three. DP Show
email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com twitter handle at DP show
spent a little bit of time talking about the Colt
situation at quarterback. Anthony Richardson is once again on the sidelines.
(02:30):
Daniel Jones come on down, and Richardson is still one
of the league's bigger questioned marks. He's in two years,
played less than a full season worth of games. But
he's younger than Caleb Williams. He's younger than Shador Sanders,
younger than Bo Nicks and Michael Pennix Junior the third.
So Jones comes in and he's had peaks and valleys
(02:53):
and got out of New York and he gets his
second chance like Baker Mayfield's had and Geno Smith Sam
Darnold Richardson. It might be the beginning of fading into
the Josh Rosen category, a talent we never fully saw
or realized. And the offense belongs to Daniel Jones. And
(03:13):
just like Anthony Richardson's career, the story where it goes
from here is really anybody's guests. But a lot of
these decisions are made on the stability or lack of
stability with the coaching staff, just like the Giants with
Russell Wilson, and just like the Colts with what's going
on with Jackson Dart or I should say, with Anthony
(03:34):
Richardson and Daniel Jones. You got Jackson dart who was
drafted in the first round by the Giants. Can you
go with him? Knowing if you start out one in
eight and they could easily start out one and eight,
those coaches, the coach and GM might not last, all right.
Poll question Seaton for hour two is going to be what.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, let me update you here.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
We got one from Marvin pick one to make the
Pro Bowl this season, danielil Jones, Justin Fields, Joe Flacco,
Russell Wilson, dang man, this is a crazy one. There's
a three way tie for second right now. Justin Field's
running away with it. Wow, to make the Pro Bowl
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this year, that's a wild one.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah. I picked Daniel Jones. Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
The Colts were eight and nine last year, and they
have a division that's not hard to steal a playoff
spot from.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So you're saying maybe nine and eight Jones.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
The Daniel Jones ramp up is not that as hard
as if he was in other divisions.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, I feel better about their playoff chance. Yes, with
Daniel Jones. But once again, where are you going with
your franchise unless you admit now we made a mistake.
I saw where Dan Orlovski he posted this on potential
landing spots teams that should offer the Colts a mid
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round pick for Anthony Richardson. This is according to Dan
Rolovsky of The mother Ship Eagles. Eagles have Tanner McKee.
Now he's a six und pick out of Stanford, and
he's actually performed pretty well in the preseason. You got
the Rams. The Rams, you have Jimmy Garoppolo, and you
have Stetson Bennett Junior fourth, and then you have the Vikings.
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Sam Howell is the backup to JJ McCarthy. Richardson's only
twenty three. He has eleven touchdown passes thirteen interceptions in
fifteen career games. But according to Orlovsky, maybe a mid
round draft pick could get you Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
How about a team like the Ravens. They have a
run and pass quarterback already who's great, but you put
him behind Lamar Jackson. Learn from Lamar Jackson and use
him in maybe a wildcat situation or something else. They
have Cooper Rush and someone named Devin Leary. They're not
exactly set at the backup position, and you can make
the my development project.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know if I want Anthony Richardson trying to
emulate Lamar Jackson, because Lamar Jackson, you know, he is
a very underrated passer and maybe people are finally realizing
it might not look like Tom Brady, but he is
a very good passer. He's a good passer, Anthony Richardson,
he is not a good passer.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Footwork's terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
But these things, I feel like you can teach these things,
but it's the willingness to learn, and then can you
actually command an offense? You know, there with John Harball
and Lamar Jackson, okay, maybe you would get a couple
of reps in a blowout game, but he needs I
feel like we got to play him to find out
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if he can play. And maybe that's what the Colts
have already found out. You know, maybe you put him
in a developmental league and find out if he can play.
But on this stage, he hasn't been able to play.
The other quarterbacking situation got a little headline. Kines was
Arch Manning, not to be confused with Archie Manning, his
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grandfather and grandfather who Arch is named after, was talking
about how it's almost a foregone conclusion that arch will
go back to Texas after this season, and then arch said, well,
you know, I haven't really played, and do we have
a little bit of that? Is there any any comment?
(07:26):
I think it was pretty quick of Archie saying, oh,
you know, kind of misspoke. They walked it back a
little bit, but arch was saying, you know, I haven't
even played yet, and you know nothing's decided.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, the arch audio is all garbled. But
Arch Manning said, I don't know where he got that from,
referring to his grandfather. He texted me to apologize about
all that. I'm really just taking it day by day
right now.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, Well, I do think he'll play two years at Texas.
I think it'll be this year next year. Did you
see where Nick Saban I think he was on with
Greg McElroy's former quarterback, and McElroy's the first one I
think who came out and said hey I'm here, and
Sabin coming back, and then Lane Kiffin said something. Colin
(08:13):
Cowherd had it that Saban was going to go to
the Browns and they were going to draft Arch Manning,
which sounds great in theory but not in reality because
you'd have to have the number one pick. And what
happens if Saban you know, hey, I'll take the job,
but Arch is going to.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Go back to Texas.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And I think that Sabin kind of said to McElroy,
made fun of the fact that he had him, you know,
going to coach in the NFL again, and as only
Saban can tied you. But yeah, I thought that that
was interesting. And look, well Colin said it was the
worst kept secret in the South. But you know when
(08:54):
it came out, I'm like, I had not heard that,
And there's probably a reason because it doesn't make sense that, Yeah,
if the Browns get Arch Manning and Nick Saban wants
to come out of retirement at age seventy four, but
there's a lot of things that have to happen for
him to go. Don't give up the TV gig. You've
(09:14):
proven you're one of the great coaches of all time.
You're making great money, there's no stress, and you get
a long off season you'd be crazy to go back,
and you know I'm going to go back to Cleveland.
I'll make it right. He was an assistant coach with Belichick.
But I like that Sabin gave Greg McElroy a little
(09:35):
grief there, because maybe it was McElroy who then told
Lane Kiffin, who was an assistant coach at Alabama, and
then all of a sudden it started to get out
more nationally. But so pole question, do we have it
for hour two Seaton?
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Yeah, we got one right now that we're working on.
More interesting choice Dylan's shoes or Paul's shirt. Little bit
of a style off happening today. Dylan, the graphics guy
in the back is wearing what I've been describing as
Nickelodeon yeezis. I'm not really sure exactly what those are
(10:12):
all about, but they're very typically Dylan, Okay, much like
Paul's shirt is typically Paul's. They're both perfect examples of
their personal fashion.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, my style could be summarized maybe like
a yacht rock type thing, and Dylan's would be like
he looks like he could be related to John Daily
with wihi's outfits. Okay, I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
One other topic here and this won't get headlines, but
it does with us. John Wall's career is over. And
this is one of those where you go he was.
He was kind of a internet sensation. There was there
was talk about John Wall before he got to Kentucky,
and he was the number one overall pick. In fact,
when he was going to his press conference that morning,
(10:59):
he was with his mother and he called into the show.
And here we are, how many years later, and his
career is over. Five time All Star, he was an
All Defense selection, He won a slam Dunk contest. He
was very very good at Kentucky, one of the fastest
players in the league. But he went from being really
(11:21):
good to being told we don't want you to play,
but we're still going to pay you. The Rockets I
think paid him forty two million dollars to not play.
I can't remember an NBA career where you had somebody
who was that good. No, granted he put up numbers
with Washington, but still I might have been five consecutive
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All Star appearances, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, that's right, aged twenty three to twenty seven. Five
All Star appearances. He had seasons with twenty three and eleven. Uh,
he was you know, second in the league and assists.
One year he was second for Rookie of the Year.
He had a very nice run. It's tough to quantify
his career because you can't say bust. But it didn't
live up to the hype. Marvin and I were talking
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about it. He was early social media guy. Where the
social media and he was on it before he even
got to Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But you go from being an All Star to being
told that you're on the roster or we're going to
pay you. We have to pay you, but we don't
want you to play like he was a healthy scratch. Yes,
Marvin forty four And we've always said this too.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
We always mentioned John wall like, look, he's making forty
four million dollars to not play. That's how we talked
about John Wall post Is Washington ds that him and we.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Do career salary? Can we play the career salary game
with John Waller for years he is, he's up there.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Salary.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Salary, salary, salar, salary, salary.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
Salary, Okay, and he excused to play that career salary game.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
John Wall.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
John Wall was in the league for eleven years. He
played for nine years, not including his Kentucky salary. Oh wow,
they're proud of that down there.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
They don't care what five billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Okay, closest to the whole, John Wall as a rookie
made five point one million in twenty twenty one twenty two,
the Rockets paid him forty four million to not play
basketball whilst healthy total salary with John Wall, Marvin, you start, I'm.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Gonna say two seventy five.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Seating.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I'm going to seventy six. God, I got a box, Marvin. Now,
two seventy five is right right there. I had to
seventy five and one dollar, But I'll go to seventy six.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
All right, Todd two forty four point seven, I'm gonna
go to seventy seven. Oh that's you know what?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
You know?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
What are you throwing a flag?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Let me hold on, let me pull it out of
my pant leg here?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Okay? Well through the BS flags?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Why you want to go last? Two hundred and eighty
six million dollars for John Wall time.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
That's not bad.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's not bad. Good living those contracts. That's why when
I hear about the other sports with contracts in the
NBA everybody's making you know, thirty forty million dollars a year,
it feels like.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And they all get paid. They're all guaranteed, yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Of his two hundred and eighty six million dollars that
John Wall earned, he made two hundred million out of
it after he stopped being an All Star?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Who is his agent? Darrell Reeves like he's on a
boat somewhere. Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Mission accomplished right there, That is mission accomplished. I'm an
All Star now on a Supermax or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yep, sign me up, sign me up, hey, sell me Okay?
All right, So Mark prior to the Dodger pitching coach
will join us next hour. Ross Tucker will stop by
as well. But up next we'll talk some football with
Greg Olsen from Fox. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.
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Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter HANDLELINGDP Show. We just looked and
the Rockets paid John Wall? Was it close to two
hundred million dollars to play forty games?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
John Wall was paid one hundred and twenty six million
dollars so over the course of four seasons to play
forty basketball games. Dang, it's actually worse than the Ben
Simmons deal. Ben Simmons with the Brooklyn his the Ben
Simmons era with Brooklyn sixty nine games played, one hundred
and twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Dang, dang, those guys get paid in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
They do, and they get paid, Yeah, to not play,
that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yes, Marvin Trey Hendrickson is looking for Isaiah Hartenstein numbers. Yeah,
for a guy to set screens and grab eight rebounds
a game, same amount of money.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yep, Yeah, just different players, Association, TV deals, all those.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Here's a different question. Would you rather make forty million
dollars a season to not play or thirty five million
dollars a season and you get to play?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Would I rather be John wallen Houston or TJ. Watt
in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Why just sitting watching basketball? The others actively participating.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But five million less, I'd still rather be TJ. Watt.
You know, I gotta play. Hey, you want to play?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I mean, you're still making great money. I don't think
John Wall was like, I mean, maybe John wall might
have been like, I don't know, I don't really feel
like playing.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
He's gonna sit back. I can cash all these checks.
But I don't think so. I think he wanted to.
He didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
He didn't even have to say that. They told him, Hey,
why did you just sit back and relax?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
John?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
We owe you this money. Like, how bad do you
have to be at that point in your career where
they don't want you to even be on the roster.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yeah, point the season before is the sitout season? No
injury listed was twenty one, twenty two. In twenty and
twenty one, John Wall averaged twenty one points and seven
assists a game as their starting point guard.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
He was good, still good. But what happened.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
They went a different direction with like younger players, and
I think he was the odd man out and decided
just to hit him a healthy scratch.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But nobody wanted a guy who could put up twenty
and ten.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Now because it was he was thirty one years old
making forty four million dollars.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, they're all making that kind of crazy money, aren't they.
What's Isaiah Hartenstein of ok C making?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Is he making? Does he make more than TJ? Watt?
Speaker 11 (19:22):
Does?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
He probably does that old question? Yeah, Isaiah Hartenstein.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I got Isaiah Hartenstein. He just signed a new deal, right,
I think, Yeah, he's gonna make twenty eight five next year.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Oh okay, so he's kind of he's making more than
Trey Hendrickson is. Now, these contracts are crazy crazy in basketball.
Greg Olsen, he's a Fox analyst, three time pro bowler,
joining us on the program. What was your best salary
in the NFL?
Speaker 12 (19:57):
I say, towards the end of my career, I probably
was making seven million, and now the best tight ends
in the league are making sixteen.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Did you ever participate in negotiations, be in the room
when they're discussing your contract.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
No.
Speaker 12 (20:13):
No, My agent, Drew Rosenhaus. I had him since I
came out of Miami. He handled all negotiations. I mean,
I was up to speed. He would call me and
debrief me in pretty good detail along the you know
along what was said and what the conversations in the
back and forth. But now I never participated directly. I
tried to stay out of that and just let him handle,
kind of being the go between between myself and the organization.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Why is Jerry Jones allowed to negotiate with Michael Parsons
individually when I think the CBA says, your agent has
to be in there to, you know, negotiate.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
That's a great question, and I thought all along that
was a very interesting part of the conversation. I know
you guys now are bringing it up and discussing it.
I don't I don't know the exact reasons. I don't
know the exact legalities of what's in the CBA by writing.
But my understanding was always players can represent themselves. There's
multiple players throughout the league for a long time that
have negotiated their own contracts because they don't have a
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registered contract agent on file with the NFLPA or you
know all that. So in that regard, you would work
directly with the general manager of the front office to
negotiate on your own behalf.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
But my understanding was if.
Speaker 12 (21:25):
You had representation and that was filed with the with
the PA and all that, that they should be the
go between. So I'm not sure the exact specifics, but
I think it's a great question.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
I just think it adds to what we're seeing now.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
It leads to this, This is why players have agents.
And I know three percent is kicked around and that's
being now negotiated to a lower number for a lot
of young players, and I get it, but this is
why you pay the money to keep the personal animosity
out of the way between you. These contracts get tough.
Whether you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Micah Parson
(22:00):
or a guy further down the roster, the team is
gonna use every bit of leverage they had. They're gonna
tell your agent or in this case, yourself, reasons why
you shouldn't make what you want, and then you're gonna
try to counter that, and it's gonna get testy. It's
inevitable nature of negotiations, and that's why having that buffer
in between keeps things from getting personal like we're seeing
here in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
More concerning, let's take Michael Parsons out of the equation,
because I do think that deal will get done. The
Trey Hendrickson with the Bengals or Terry McLaurin which one
is more damaging to that team's potential success this season? Man,
that's a great question.
Speaker 12 (22:37):
I would say Hendrickson up in Cincinnati, just because we
know how much conversation it has surrounded the Bengals defense.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
They fired the DC, they hire.
Speaker 12 (22:45):
Al Golden, you know, the longtime college DC from Penn
State who was most recently in Penn State, I mean
a Notre dame. I guess my question is, can that
defense be they weren't very good to begin with last year,
and Joe Burrow had an unbelievable season, and they still
fell short of expectations. With the whole emphasis in the
offseason for them getting back into the likes of the
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Bills and the Ravens and the Chiefs to get themselves
back in the AFC to that echelon with Joe Burrow.
They can't do it without the defense getting better. And
now you take away the sack leader, you take away
your best defensive player. Can you assume that you're going
to be back in Super Bowl contention to compliment one
of the best offenses in football? So I would say
for them, this is a significant storyline. And if they
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can't figure it out what was already a weakness, now
you take away your best player, you have to assume
it's even worse.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Help me understand why Anthony Richardson would be the bust
and not the Colts general manager Chris Ballard because Anthony
Richardson didn't take himself at four overall the Colts did.
They took a project that high who wasn't he had
glimpses in college. But you starting week one, like I'm
(24:01):
just trying to under and the kid is twenty three
years of age, and it feels like the NFL will
move on from him.
Speaker 12 (24:09):
Yeah, And I'll again, this is not an indictment of
Anthony Richardson. I don't know the kid that well.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
I don't know the ins and outs behind the scenes there.
Speaker 12 (24:15):
But I will say this in credit to Chris Ballard,
I think the best guys in the NFL, whether it's coaches,
front office, personnel, general managers, when you know you've made
a mistake. I think the teams that continue to double down,
double down and prolong this experiment end up finding themselves
(24:36):
out of work. I think the best organizations understand, you
know what, this was a miss and now this is
a big one. Right, you take a top five quarterback,
it's set your franchise back multiple years. But if you
continue to push it down the road and say it's
gonna change, it's gonna change. And I can't admit failure,
I can't admit that I was wrong. Typically that blows
(24:57):
up the entire organization. And there's enough another general manager there,
so I do give him a little bit credit.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
It's behind the scenes.
Speaker 12 (25:04):
Him and Shane stike In are saying, you know what
we missed, he's not the guy Daniel Jones gives us
a better chance to win. I almost think that's the
more difficult decision and one that they if it was
even close, Anthony Richardson, just because of his draft pedigree,
would be the Week one starter. So I think we
see this all the time in free agency. The Eagles
(25:24):
just won the Super Bowl and huffed their big free agents.
Signing from the Jets, they paid a bazillion dollars he
didn't play down the stretch and guess what this year
they shipped him off for pennies on the dollar to
another organization. And Howie Roseman said, you know what, I
missed on that one. But we're gonna move on. So
it's different when it's the quarterback. But the good organizations
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admit defeat, They admit when they were wrong, and you
got to move on.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I think that's really a great point and I had
not thought of that, and maybe that's what the Colts
are doing that Yes, we saw two years and he's
not our guy. Now maybe you can trade it to somebody,
and maybe he could. We're you know, we're seeing this
cycle now far more than we used to two years,
maybe three years didn't work out. Now you go, you're
(26:10):
going to be a backup, and it's like almost the
Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Gino Smith. You know, well, we'll
bring you back around. Maybe it's a better coaching staff,
maybe it's a better team, and maybe Anthony Richardson still
has a future. We're talking to Greg Olsen, Fox NFL
analyst and you can tune in to Youth Inc. And
(26:30):
Greg has a weekly podcast. He had Tom Brady on,
Malcolm Gladwell on, and you're talking about sports and parenting
and the next generation of athletes. How'd you come up
with this idea?
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Yeah, so it's actually been a really a really fun
project for us. You know, I'm a dad of three.
I'm the son of a high school football coach from
New Jersey, legendary coach out of the Northeast, coached over
forty years, coach me and my brother.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
So I grew up in this world.
Speaker 12 (26:56):
Like when I was a young kid, the highlight of
our life was playing varsity foot one day for my dad.
Fortunately I was able to go on and make a
career out of it. But now as a father raising
three young kids in a very different youth sports culture
than any of us, remember, and any of us really
grew up in and there was a lot of things
that we were doing wrong, a lot of things that
I didn't have a great idea of what the right
(27:18):
path forward was for my sons and my daughter. And
we said, you know what, there's a lot of really
interesting people out there that have great perspectives and great
lessons to be shared, and let's go find those people.
So we've had a lot of really cool conversations our
latest season that we just dropped.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
You know, you mentioned Tom Brady. We had Malcolm Gladwell
this year.
Speaker 12 (27:37):
This week and next week we'll have Ryan Day coming
off the National champions getting ready for that big Texas game,
and CJ. Stroud and just some really fun and really
insightful people that have really good experiences that can be
great for parents, coaches, young athletes, people dealing with different adversities.
We think it can really help a lot of people.
And along the way, as the host, quote unquote, I'm
(27:59):
learning more than anyone and trying to implement a lot
of these values and lessons into my own youth coaching
and also into just my parenting.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's a Youth Inc. I n C and it's a
weekly podcast. I was curious about this when we were
going to have you on of how much of your
job now as a broadcaster for Fox is your football
knowledge and how much of it is the ability to
understand TV.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
Well.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
I think it's a great question because I joke with
my with my producer and director all the time. Like
the football part, I always felt pretty good about. You know,
the football part, I felt like I always understood and
I saw and I really enjoy talking the game and
formulating different storylines to present to the viewer and letting
them kind of unravel in real time during the broadcast.
The TV part is the part I think all of
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us have to learn, right. You have to learn how
to go in and out of commercial breaks. You have
to learn how to talk to the truck. You know.
I always joke I still to this point day when
I want it behind the d you know the fancy
TV people call it. You know, I want the pit,
you know, I want pit framing. I'm like, I just
want behind the defense whatever that is called.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
Give me that.
Speaker 12 (29:09):
So I'm still learning some of the nuance, the terminology
where all the cameras are and I've gotten a lot
better now going into my fifth year. But it's it's
very interesting. The football part. I feel like that's that's
the easy part, making that fit into a three hour
live broadcast, talk in segments, talking soundbites, not talking over
your play by play, commercial breaks, ad reads. Fortunately, I've
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had great partners. I got Joe Davis now, who's incredible,
Kevin Burkhart before that, they handle all the TV and
I tell him I'll just do the football part.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
So it's I've been lucky in that regard.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, you're on a play clock too, though, when you
think about it, that you might have twelve seconds to
describe something and then you've got to turn it over
to your play by play guy so he can do
his job. And this is where Jim Nantz is unbelievable,
because Tony Rome, Oh, Tony will kind of color outside
the lines sometime and all of a sudden, you know,
(30:05):
Jim's got to grab it at the last second and
you know, go third and eight, you know. So I
understand the timing part of it, but so many guys
that came through ESPN, these are legendary coaches and players,
and I said, you got to understand TV, and even
Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungee on Football Night in America.
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I said, you guys are rookies. You know nothing about TV.
Listen to me and you'll do fine. You know football,
but that's only part of the equation. They'd look at you,
go you just talk. I go no if I if
somebody in your ear goes, hey, you got twenty seconds. Well,
you don't know what twenty seconds is in real time
(30:45):
playing a game, you do twenty seconds in TV. You're like, uh,
I don't know how long? How long am I going?
You went forty two seconds? You're like, I did it?
Speaker 7 (30:54):
No, And you're spot on.
Speaker 12 (30:55):
And the voice in your ear is an adjustment early
on in my career, the natural instinct of anybody is
when someone says something to you while you're talking, you
stop and you want to listen. Well, obviously you sound
silly on live television if you do that. To your
point about play by play guys, there's no such thing
as a good color analyst without a good play by
play guy.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
They are the heroes of all of this.
Speaker 12 (31:18):
They are the professionals, quote unquote, like they keep this
train on the tracks running and give you the space
and the breath, and the leads to then talk about
the things that they really know you're interested in or
you feel good about, and you want to take the broadcast.
So it is more of a dance. It is a rhythm.
It's ever changing. Every game has a different cadence. There's
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games that have a million penalties and a million commercial
breaks and a million injuries. Those get super choppy, and
then there's the dream games, which every play is a long,
fluid drive. There's multiple first downs in every possession. You
can really let some of these storylines unravel. You don't
feel like you have to force it in because it's
a three and out punt commercial. So again, it's it's
(32:02):
a that the part of the the part of the
experience that I've enjoyed the most is the unpredictability of it,
where you don't you have a basic idea of the matchup,
You have a basic idea of the flow of the game,
but then once it's kicked off, no different than a player,
nobody can sit there and say I know exactly how
this game is going to go, and I'm going to
talk about X, Y and Z in that order. Chances
(32:22):
are that's going to be thrown upside down, and then
you have to adjust on the fly and make it
sound fun and interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I had a couple of rapid fire questions before we
let you go. Who feels more hall of fate? Who
feels more hall of faming? Matthew Stafford or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Wow, that's a great question.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
Kind of interesting career arcs, right like Russell started out
so hot and now down the stretch trying to find
his way. Stafford obviously started in a perennially terrible or team,
got them a little bit better and then has had
his success later. Oh man, I think creatures of the
moment Stafford. It feels like because just because the last
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memories we have of his his teams have been more
relevant as of recent Russ. For as amazing as Russ
has been a lot of you know, his success came.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 12 (33:17):
But I think if you put a gun to my head,
just recency bias, would be Stafford. But I would probably
make the argument that they both are deserving.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
If I take the names off the resumes, it's a
no brainer. It's Russell Wilson.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Interesting because that's what I like. Yeah, the Pro Bowls.
Speaker 12 (33:35):
I think it's reccency bias, which was kind of my
initial instinct with Stafford. In my mind, there's no question
that Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer. I think
everyone's going to try to use the last couple of
years of kind of bouncing finding a home, but they
forget just how dominant he was. I know Seattle was incredible.
I know the defense, but that that shouldn't be taken away.
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In my mind, Russell's a Hall of the way you
pose the question you posed was such a good one.
I think the recency success of the Rams, the Super Bowl,
and Stafford post Detroit, I could see that being the argument.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Is Cam Newton all Hall of Famer?
Speaker 12 (34:17):
Yeah? In my mind he is, and I think you
have to look past I don't know where. I have
no idea where he stands in total yards passing and
total touchdowns. I don't know statistically, which I know is
a big part of that process. When you talk about
changing the way the game is played, quarterbacks running the
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ball on short yardage, quarterbacks playing you know, down near
the goal line. The ability to still be a four
thousand yard passer from the pocket when he came into
the league. There was very few, if any guy's playing
the quarterback position the way he played it. And now
there's almost no pocket passers left, or there's you know, Burrow,
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there's a couple. But the game is on the move,
the game is played athletically, both in and out of
the pocket, and Cam was at the front end of
a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Great stuff. Great to talk to you. Hope you have
a great season coming up. We'll check in with you
and the podcast, it's a weekly podcast. It's entitled Youth Inc.
With Greg Olsen. Next guest will be Ryan Day.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
C J.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Stroud is also on the guest list, and he's already
had a podcast tape with Tom Brady and the author
Malcolm Gladwell. Thanks again, Greg, great spe Thanks Dan. We'll
take a break when we come back. The most interesting
NFL team.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That's next.
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Speaker 3 (35:50):
Chris and Syracuse. Hi Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (35:53):
Hey? Thanks Dan?
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Hey.
Speaker 13 (35:54):
In the first hour, you were mentioning about when the
Reds and Dodgers are in the same division in the
NL West. And remember in the seventies, Dan and they
were both so good that there were years when one
of them would win a ninety nine one hundred games
and they wouldn't even make the playoffs. And yesterday you
were mentioning about Jerry Jones dropping the Micah contract, getting
it done at the most opportune time for publicity. I'm
(36:16):
wonderful to do the same thing that he did with
Dak on the eve or the day of the season opener.
He'll drop the news, which this year at Philadelphia Dallas
on NBC at night. He'll probably drop it in the afternoon,
and lastly, off a play of the day Yankee sitting
nine home runs. Last time they did that was sometime
in April, and that game was the catalyst to all
this torpedo bat talk for three four days and then
(36:39):
it was gone. Now we're pushing late August, we haven't
heard about it.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I know, I know it was changing the sport. It's
ruining baseball. Torpedo bats and then all of a sudden
they disappeared. Jerry is not going to wait until that
day of when the Cowboys play the Eagles, because you
need Michael Parsons in Dak Prescott was in camp. They
were just going to get a new deal done, and
(37:05):
Jerry said, we'll get a new deal done. This is
different Michael Parsons. He's not practicing, and you can't just say, hey,
your deal is done. Now suit up and go play
against the Eagles tonight.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Most interesting team in the NFL, whatever your criteria is,
doesn't have to be the most exciting, doesn't have to
be the best. It could be a bad team. Most
interesting team in the NFL, Todd.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I find the whole division very interesting. I'm going with
Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm extremely interested to
see what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Okay, all right, once again, it's your criteria, your your
blueprint for interesting.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Seaton. Most interesting team in the NFL is Well.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
I was gonna say the Pittsburgh Steelers as well, but
I'll change that up to it's kind of a toss
up between two teams. I'll go with the Las Vegas Raiders.
I think they're actually a really interesting team this year.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
All Right, Marvin, the Atlanta Falcons, Michael Pennix, all those weapons, Bijon,
Drake London, Kyle Pitts. I'm interested to see what they do.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Was it a local Atlanta or Savannah TV station that
had Michael Pennix and they had the font underneath and
they didn't spell Penix. They put an S in there
correct and yeah, so you could. How does that happen?
(38:38):
How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Paulie?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
The most interesting team in the NFL is I love
all three picks.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I love the Falcons pick Penix always raises up every
team he's on. I'm going with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
ten and seven. They outscored their opponents by one hundred
and seventeen points last year. Baker Mayfield threw for forty
one touchdowns sixteen picks, forty one touchdowns. It feels like
they're that close if one of the heavyweights in the
NFC can slip up.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, Seaton. Did no one see the Commanders?
Speaker 6 (39:10):
No one did, because they're they're definitely they would be
my other team. That is absolutely the most interesting.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Are we doing round two? Most interesting? Okay?
Speaker 11 (39:23):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Todd bo Nicks in the Denver broncos Hip. Sorry, are
they gonna live up to everyone's on the Bronco.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Bandwag let's see what they're yes, Marvin the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
That's my pick as well, because even if Trey Hendrickson
comes back in plays, how much of an impact you're
gonna be leading with your offense. Joe Burrows put on
a pedestal and he's gonna have to be even better,
uh than what he's been. And he was great last
part of the season. You know they ever talked about
(39:59):
him MVP conversation for Joe.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
All right, Paulieu, With my final pick of the draft,
I'm going with the Minnesota Vikings fourteen and three last
year and they replaced their quarterback with a guy who
hasn't taken a pro stap yet. That is a good
but dicey situation.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Let's see Dane in Texas. Hey Dane, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (40:24):
Good morning, Dan. How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (40:26):
Good? Sir?
Speaker 11 (40:28):
I'd just like to thank you for suggesting. I guess
you had one of the ways brothers or both of
them talking without America's team. Oh cow, it was amazing, Dan,
You know, I get the best way to sum it up.
It was like Quentin Tarantino meets Tennessee Williams. You know,
the truth is stranger than fiction. It was brilliant, all right.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Well, thank you, Dan. Yeah, I saw the first episode.
Now I'm not learning a lot, But you know, maybe
it's not fair for me to say that in my
position because I've heard a lot of this, most of
this stuff. In fact, we've had some of the Cowboys
on telling some of these stories. But it if you're
(41:11):
a cowboy fan, you'll love it. All right, Well, take
a break. Final hour coming up, Dodger pitching coach, Mark
Pryor and Ross Tucker our good buddy as well. Hope
you'll stay with us. Seton, Paulie, mar Fritzie and yours.
Truly we're back after this
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Dan Patrick
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