November 28, 2024 • 38 mins
C&R are filling-in for the DP Show! They have a discussion about "Aaron Rodgers fatigue." The fellas laugh about burn-out garages & talk NFL teams who are on a slippery slope. Plus, the show gets into a heated debate about the Dodgers "buying" championships!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Steve Cavino, just a kid from Union, New Jersey
out here in the mean streets of LA.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
You live in Trimanox. There's nothing way about it.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Rich Davis, Danny g Our, super producer. He's on the
phones at eighty seven seven ninety nine on Fox here.
Thank you, guys, Fox Sports Radio Nation, for hanging out
with us on this special day.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You could be watching the parade, but you're here with us. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
What's worse it a parade, A rainy parade that's got
to be miserable, because I get it. There's a fun
and a tradition in people in New York City going
to the Macy's Day Parade. So I'm not trying to
be a humbug, but it's raining out. Like, come on, kids,
let's go. We're going to a rainy parade. Along, there's
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the Bluey Float, there's Mini Merrows, come on, stay home. Yeah,
Blax Rockets gotta be dancing in the rain. But hey,
enjoy your football, enjoy your Thanksgiving. Now, to wrap up
that last conversation, we're talking about what teams that are struggling,
struggling Joe Namath style.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I want to kiss you.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Did you see what struggling Jimmy Johnson said on DAK Prescott,
speaking of the Cowboys, said I would have never given
Prescott a new contract. I'd let him play it out.
He's the highest paid player in the league. He's not
the best player in the league. So he's saying straight up,
I would have never given Prescott a new contract. Now,
there are teams that are struggling that I said, if
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they ran it back next year, maybe luck went a
different way. Injuries didn't play a factor. I believe in
teams like the Cincinnati Bengals and the forty nine ers
in that they have a core that, when healthy, could
still very much compete. I don't think. I don't think
those win. They're healthy things. It's like Perfett said, that's
part of the game. No, I do know about the healthy.
(01:54):
But what I'm saying is I think the Bengals and
Niners are teams that I don't think you need to
blow up those organizations. However, I don't think the Cowboys
could run back this same squad, give me their next
four games again and expect differ results there for Cowens
seven in the NFCS got the Eagles, you got the Commanders.
(02:14):
They can't even beat the Giants at this point, so
or we'll find out today anyway. But like I said
about locking ahead, sometimes he's just one game at a time.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You know, Ricky who worked here, that does all the
great production.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But when one game is tough, tougher than the next, yeah,
you gotta be realistic. He's one of those guys, Ricky, Yeah,
does not believe.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And he's a fan. He's a fan.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He's like these these buffoons, because there are quote buffoons
that say, you know, maybe the Cowboys run the table
and seven.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
That's like you we you're forty nine or a little
more realistic.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think, all right, cowboys, let's say they beat the
Giants today, and by the way, get one more sip
of that coffee drink. I don't mind this. Some people
think that's rude. I think you're getting your money's worth
six drink. Get that last sip. Yeah, you're only doing
a national radio show, all right. So they beat the
Giants today, they're five and seven. Let's just say, right then,
you got to play the Bengals. I don't think you
beat the Bengals then you play the Panthers, all right,
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you win that one. But then again Bryce Young starting
to show signs of oh he's the guy. Maybe you
play the Bucks. They're fighting the Falcons. Buck stops there.
Then they play the Eagles and Commanders.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Get out of here. You're not winning. You're not winning.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
But I wanted to bring up one more team because
we talk about these teams every year. What do they say, Cavino?
The playoffs consist of six new teams every year. You
say to yourself, well, I don't see how it's going
to change from last year. We're already seeing Dolphins, Niners, Cowboys,
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teams that were in the mix last year already like
you know, not this year. So every year, without fail,
the parody of the league provides six ish playoff teams.
But I think the Bengals and Niners could run it
back next year with different results. I don't think the
Cowboys could. Here's the question, because Aaron Rodgers came out
this week and said, oh, you know, I do want
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to play another year, likely in the NFL. And I'd
prefer the Jets. Could the Jets with new coaching, with
maybe drafting some offensive line help with the weapons they
have Haul, DeVante Adams and Sus Gardner looking a little
lost on defensive times. But are the Jets a team
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that could run it back next year? And just think
with some alterations and new coaching, they could go from
misery to the Super Bowl pretender people thought they were
this year.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Even if you get Rex Ryan, get some chompers on
the sideline, get someone out there who's dynamic, agreat with
match up to culture, You're not gonna switch up the
culture enough to change the culture that Aaron Rodgers has created.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'll give dem Byer credit down. I was just gonna
say that.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, Den Bayer, who's the news guy on our Monday
through Friday show, said that if you're talking about changing
the culture for the Jets, it starts with part of
that culture is getting rid of Aaron Rodgers. Danny g Prefett,
Are there thoughts in your head?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Then?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And I gave the theo Epstein analogy. I was like,
that's the theo Epstein theory. If you saw the recent
documentary on Netflix, The Comeback about the two thousand and three,
two thousand and four Red Sox, theo Epstein in order
to change the culture and the winning attitude of the
Red Sox. He had to get rid of the best player,
No more Garcia para no Ma, you mean.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
The guy that is boss. How you get rid of
our only great player?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Like well, in order to change this culture, in order
to win, we have to get rid of this guy,
no Ma. And that's a bold move. And that's what
the Jets would have to do to change that culture. Now,
got to get rid of Rodgers. Pet is Aaron Rodgers
the problem? Or can they say no, no, no, we
can fix this team around Aaron Rodgers. I don't even
think Aaron Rodgers is their best player. Like we need
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to stop acting like it was three years ago when
he you know whatever, Like this is a guy who
went on a significant injury last year and this year
he has not played well at all. Like watching the
game is not playing well.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's like Michael Jordan on the Wizards, where we're like.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Oh hey, this this I mean, I think the problem
is we fall in love with these guys and you
keep thinking back to their path. It's just like the
Tyson fight. You keep the last image you have is
usually a positive one, and it's hard for our brains
to process when someone is bad. Aaron Rodgers is badue
everybody sees their problem. He's losing them games, he's inaccurate,
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he throws interceptions, He's part of the reason. And then
he goes on with Pat McAfee or wherever he wants.
He complains about distractions in the locker room. My brother
in Christ, the calls coming from inside the house. You
are the distraction. I think the Jets should be looking
at Jets send this guy. He's owed a ton of money,
he's not playing well. Like I don't know what else
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needs to be up on the table other than his
name is Aaron Rodgers. And we all just like sniffing
Aaron Rodgers farts. We need to stop being addicted to
Aaron Rodgers farts. As they said in Billy Madison, A
simple no.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
What had done with Danny g Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I heard Garrett Wilson being interviewed just last night actually
and their two nights ago, and he made a great point.
He said, look, we are not going to play as
if there's nothing to gain, because we have families, we
have jobs on the line, with coaches and my teammates.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
He said, we need to keep Aaron here.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
And he didn't say it in these exact words, but
it made me feel like they need to go on
the type of run that you were talking about last
hour that you wish your forty nine ers would go on. Rich,
That's the only way even the biggest Jets fan would
think that Rogers has not overstayed as welcome.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
All right. You know me, I like to schedule watch.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I like to look ahead, so I think hit it
on the head too, though, Like we have again a
delusion and we're sniffing fart's like he said with the
Mike Tyson fight, right, how many people are saying it
was a fix.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
He could have beat him if he wanted to. It
was a fix.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Every person saying it was a fix is some crazy
Tyson fan who lives in a delusion of he's still
great now. How about he's fifty eight and he got
beat by a younger, stronger fighter and he couldn't pull
the trigger and that's just how fighting goes sometimes. Same
with Aaron Rodgers, Yo, he's not the same dude. You're
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still talking about him like it's five years ago. It's
not he battled injury. He's still coming back from that.
Like you to think that he's still the same guy.
He's built around him is just delusion?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Is he done?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Even Brett farre said he still got some gas and
he's still a good player.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But is he the same Aaron Rodgers and ill No.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think to your points, Steve, I think, especially in
foot we do see guys were able to go out
on top. We talk about Tom Brady, although we ignore
the last year, but like he was still good in
that finally still good, You're still good and he won
a super Bowl in Tampa. We think about Peyton Manning
final year wasn't good, but he got carried up to
a super Bowl, saying with John Lway, like, there's it's
in this idea that quarterbacks will always be great, and
(09:19):
I don't. And usually the reality is after you're thirty five,
you're facing a steep decline. Sometimes you're fighting it all
the time. I'll name drops a hold on you're going
to pick this up on here? Oh oh, Emmitt Smith.
Emmitt Smith once told me, he said, Rich, I go,
what's up?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Emmett?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
What's your name?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Again? He was on our show No Joke, promoting a
medicine for gout, but nonetheless we had him on the show.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You gotta let him promote. With their promoter, EMMITTT.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Smith said, as you become an aging veteran, every year
when you show up at training camp, you could feel
yourself losing step by step. And he goes, there's one
year where when you used to be able to turn
that corner, and when you go to turn that corner
and there's a young defensive guy like waiting for you, Like,
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oh man, I lost that step. You're everyone loses that step.
And your analogy was great with the Mike Tyson like
Mike Tython. We were picturing Mike Tyson knocking out people
in the eighties and nineties. We didn't want to think
he was fifty eight year old Mike Tyson against Jake Paul.
That's why we were all dumb and delusional. I agree
report and I at barstool when he said, anyone that
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thought Mike Tyson.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
W Win was an idiot and I was an idiot.
I was a chance.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But I just like Gronders had a chance. They've given
him every chance possible to make it happen. Looking at
the Jets schedule, they're three and eight. I think they'd
be they'd be lucky. If they were seven and ten, two.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Games against the Dolphins, a game against Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, if they split the Dolphins in that, that's generous.
I think they could beat the Seahawks this week get home.
And again, I'm not just not playing into my forty
nine ers have a chance theory. It's just I'm not
impressed by the Seahawks. And I think if the Jets
do win a game, I wouldn't be shocked if it's
in New York against Seattle having to travel, and I'm
okay with that one. So we'll see. But who could
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run it back with different results? Maybe the Bengals and Niners.
Who can't Cowboys and Jets.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I agree with that? Actually yeah I do. Won't we agree?
It's fact.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So any thoughts hit us at Covino and Rich at
Fox Sports Radio, at Danny g Radio, Danny Gradio and
appreciate it or call us eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. Now, we're gonna get into some MLB in
a few minutes. Talk a little free agency. Juan Soto,
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gotta tuck your Doyers too, Blake Snell the Dodgers. We'll
get to that. But on a Thanksgiving Thursday, as we
get ready for everyone to really like people are gonna
be diving head first like Pete Rose with his helmet,
flopping off into the holiday season after today, Christmas Everything,
Christmas everywhere. It all starts at the end of the parade.
(12:08):
Christmas all around us. Santa comes right. Santa is always
the last guy at the parade, and there he is
Santa Claus with Missus and the non sports related question
when you're thinking about the holiday season. He has a
million Christmas movie songs everything in fact, his Halloween specials
(12:30):
and songs and music Thanksgiving m hm. Is it safe
to say, oh, hey, what the Thanksgiving song? Is it
safe to say we have the Adam Sandler Turkey song?
And we got planes, trains and automobiles John Candy and
Steve Martin, And are those the only no Thanksgiving movie
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and songs? Not the only, but the premiere and primary you.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Once pillows, those are pillows.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Those are pillows.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And then the scene at the rental card place, planes,
trains and automobiles, John Candy, Steve marta classic of course
the Turkey song Adam Sandler. I'm convinced we have one song,
one movie. Change my mind, because what else? What are
you gonna give me some old old timey time things,
or if you not, just watch Wizard of Oz yesterday
(13:33):
to hype yourself up for Wicked this weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, I think I want to take my daughter to
see Wicked.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I hate to break the news to you, but I'm
not saying it's a Thanksgiving movie about Thanksgiving. But it
aired on Thanksgiving or the day before Thanksgiving for our
whole childhood, so I associate that with Thanksgiving. March of
the Wooden Soldiers always aired right after the Parade Babes
and Toyland. It's a classic, by the way, I know
you've never seen it, turning in black and white.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
You talk about Grandpappy movies. Norbit.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We quoted Norbit before Turkey ass Eat up Sucker, he
ate the Turkey.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You mean the Eddie Murphy classic Norbit. Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's not like a movie about Thanksgiving. I agree completely.
There's not a lot of movies about Thanksgiving. There's not
a lot of songs about Thanksgiving. But I don't think
they're the only ones. To answer your questions, can I
tell you about the most boring ass special of all time?
When we were kids, how we sat through this is
beyond me. Last night, I'm laying about with the kids,
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like mom, Dad, we lay with you tonight, And I'm like, hey,
what the heck, it's a day off of school. Sure,
Dad's gonna wake up early for Dan Patrick. What do
you want to watch? We threw on the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving.
There you go, there's another one, trash, So thanks for
giving me more, Ammo. To answer your question, is it
the only one? No? And I like the Charlie Brown
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Thanksgiving any writed Franklin to the party, that was awesome,
Unity family. I like Charlie Brown. I grew up with that,
So I'm that's another one Charlie Brown. So it's not
the only. But yeah, playing trains automobiles. Speaking of Charlie Brown,
I rather him kicking than Jake Moody for the forty
nine ers.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So hey, we'll get to some baseball next. But if
I'm missing something, I feel like we are. We're lacking.
Like there's a window for some young comedian or someone
to make a Thanksgiving classic Thanksgiving movie, Like there's no
Like I think there's a window where, you know, we
say it's hard to break through the new Christmas song
because there's so many classics. I think you could make
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a Thanksgiving related comedy and it could be like the
new standard of the Don't worry. The Kelsey's are working
on it. I knew Thanksgiving album and movie coming soon.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Geez, you know what, I wouldn't doubt that we got more.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Cavino and Rich we are live in the Tirack dot
Com studio, Mercedes Ben Studios for the great Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
We got more next. Look, I'm an eighties kid, right.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You see all these eighties kids playing Kiss and dressed
up like Kiss, wearing Kiss t shirts, you know, blasting
led Zeppelin, and I just remember hearing that like on
my streets, like thinking, man, rock is cool, and that
also makes me think a school of rock. Jack Black. Hey,
that's a fun family movie, maybe to watch late VI.
But I felt the opposite of what you felt. I
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would see those guys would be like I don't want
to be that.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
No, I was like a burnout guy listening to like
eighties rock.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I'm like, nah, to.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Get a feathered haircut, a rabbit's foot denim jacket and
a camaro and a camaro.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'll tell you what, I'm a little younger than you,
but I felt like the first time I was like,
well that's cool, is when I think we all fell
victim of like I have, Like you have a mushroom haircut,
some flannel shirts, and you're.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Like, I think I'm looking nineties rock kids.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well yeah, no, I obviously morphed into the nineties Grande era.
But you know, if you're an eighties kid, you heard
some late seventies rock for sure. Kids were blasting that
back then. Anyway, thanks for hanging out with us, Covin
and Rich everything at Covino and Rich Danny g super
producing eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. He's always
putting our podcast up too. If you guys want to
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check it out, just search Covino and Rich, CoV I
and O covid usually comes up first, but ignore that.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, we're trying to forget about that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So Covino and Rich feed is here and in about
twenty minutes, twenty plus minutes, Old.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
School win fifty hits.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We throw it back every Thursday, speaking of burnouts, an
old school led Zeppelin we reminisce and this has to
do with your drunken deal El Bonacco. You're a drunken
family member who did something wild, maybe at the holiday table,
right those moments that you tried to forget, But now
we're gonna laugh about him here on the show. Start
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thinking about him. Plus we got to talk some Dodgers,
but rich to wrap up the teams in the NFL
that still have a shot. I think your forty nine
ers still have a shot if they make the right moves,
or maybe not make any moves at all. Health might
be what turns it around. And off the air we
were talking about, I think the Eagles are the best
example of it's possible if you do it right. They
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went from the Super Bowl to sucking it up, and
now they're right back in the mix because they got
Saquon Barkley and a few coaching changes here and there,
but you know, they're right back in it. So if
you handle it right, you could be right back there
where you were.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
But if you miss step, it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
When you start slipping, like like the Cowboys, like the
forty nine ers, like the Bengals, it's such a touchy,
tricky moment.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's like saving a relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's like a relationship I was gonna make the analogy
of a like your diet and the gym. If you're
at the forty nine Ers or Bengals, another slippery slope.
And you know, if you're the forty nine Ers or
Bengals and you're like, yeah, man, injuries and some you know,
rough calls here and there, you can let yourself we
are turn it around. We could find our way back.
It's like not going to the gym for two weeks
because you get a little injury. This could be the
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beginning of you becoming a slob and a fatsob. Or
you could be like I had a couple of rough weeks,
a rough season, then you find your way back. I
think the Cowboys and Jets essentially need a new personal trainer.
But I think the Niners, as I have officially let
themselves go. I'll say Bengals forty nine ers could pull
an Eagles and be back next year if it's handled properly.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You know what, Nick Sirianni sort of dodged a bullet.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
If you remember that Eagles team, God, there were one
Jalen Hurts fumble away from winning a Super Bowl, right yeah,
but then maybe the next year, I mean he had
some injury. But the next year, maybe it's a little overconfident,
like you're forty nine ers this year. But if you
remember Sirianni Jalen Hurts Super Bowl a fumble away.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
From beating Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
The next year, they started hot and then the wheels
fell off and you thought, wow, that was a quick
little run.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Mm hm. And another we thought there.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Were people that thought this year, mah Eagles. Man, they
don't got the juice. They got the juice. It's the
cowboy because every year for the last five plus years
that NFC East has been, hey, bro, who do you
got Cowboys or Eagles? Because the Giants have been sort
of dog water. Then Washington surprise people, and in fact,
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I'm not sold on Washington yet. In fact, while they
were my long shot to make the playoffs this year,
because I do like Jayden Daniels, they're they're looking like
they're they're showing signs of vulnerability. Like I think they'll
still make the playoffs, but I think it's the Eagle,
Like Eagles run away with this division now, I.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Really do think that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
All right, So your phone calls to wrap it up
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox at Covino and
Rich and now I think we talk about the Doyers,
the Dodgers a lot of people, even our own Rob Parker,
I believe, was saying yesterday they're.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The new evil Empire, and I do belie leave that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think what we're seeing here is the Dodgers buying championships.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I do feel that way. Do you hear this coming
from a Yankees fan? Yeah? I do feel that way.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Look, let's think about what happened this past week. They
signed Snell one hundred and eighty one hundred eighty two million,
five years. He's thirty one years old, it'll be thirty
six by the end of that contract.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You add him to an already potent.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Lineup, potent team, championship team, pitching staff. They're gonna get
that other Japanese dude they're trying to get. They're still
in the mix for Soto, like give me, I don't
forget Otani will pitch.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
So we also talked about yeah, yeah, well here's the difference,
you said, coming from a Yankees fan. But I'm gonna
tell you what I think the difference is. And this
is no hate. I'm not a Dodgers hater.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Not at all. I live here in LA I want
to read a tweet that goes along with this whole.
Say Ben Verlander.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Ben Verlander, who the brother of Justin Verlander, who's a
great broadcaster at MLB. At work, Ben Verlander. My favorite
thing about him is he had one preseason one spring
training at bat against his brother back in the day
and hit a home run.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's a cool moment.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But Ben Verlander put on social media, are people really
that bothered by the Snell signing? Baseball is by far
the sport with the most parody in the US. Haven't
had a repeat winner since two thousand.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Your Yankees couldino.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Seems people are upset before they have a reason to be.
Don't be mad at the Dodgers. Be mad at your
team for being cheap. And I agree with that too.
So I'm not mad at the Dodgers, Danny g I'm
really not. I'm not at all. I'm a Yankees fan.
I'm not mad at Riches mad. But how can you say.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
I'm confused?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I was a question any team for spending money. But
I will say this, here's the difference between the Yankees
when they were the Evil Empire and the Dodgers, who
are now the evil Empire the Yankees when they went
on that run, which was magical, by the way, and
it gave me tons of false confidence.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
That I carry till this day. Just by being a fan. Yeah,
just by being a fan, I felt like a winner.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Brought me to Fox Sports Radio all these years later,
gave me something to cheer for. It did change my
life and outlook in a lot of ways. The Yankees
built around their homegrown talent, which led them to championships,
and it was always that that false narrative of the
Yankees buy championships. Really did they buy Derek Jeter? Did
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they buy Andy Pettitt, Did they buy Mo Rivera? Did
they buy Jory Pisada? Did they buy Alfonso Soriano? Did
they buy all these These are homegrown people that were
talking about Robbie. They know they had the money to
keep them. No, they built around them. Though they built
around them. The Dodgers are just getting whoever they want
because they can.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's the difference. Am I mad at it?
Speaker 7 (23:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But there is a different So when you say they're
the new evil Empire, they are really what people were
accusing the Yankees of being the Yankees were flooded with
homegrown talent, flooded with it. The Dodgers got a few people.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Let me ask you, Covino, then why are the Dodgers
always ranked in the top three as far as farm
systems go.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
They're great and maybe they have a lot of great talent.
One of their stars here, will Smith, Danny, Let's be real,
he's a star. He's one of their stars.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Star.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
He had a few moments in the cornerstone of the team.
Andy has lux Miller the stars. What did the What
did the Dodgers do at the trade deadline? They got
Flirty and Edmund by using assets they had from the farm.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Okay, that's there, and that changed their posts.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You don't see the difference of building around the homegrown
core four and other Yankee homegrown talent. There there's no
rule that says you have to make saying there's a
new rule. I'm saying, don't I don't understand that. This
is the difference between the old evil Empire and they're
the new evil Empire. The Dodgers really are. The thing is,
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they're not that hateable, which is why I'm saying we
gotta start hating on them.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We gotta start hating on the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Okay, so the bottom barrel MLB team, do they have
all homegrown talent?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
No, they gotta spend money.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
There has to be there has to be obviously a
salary floor, meaning you can't just buy a team and
use that as an investment. You have to buy a
team and be willing to compete, be willing to spend money.
So the teams that aren't spending money, I agree with
Ben Verlander all the way, right, But I also agree
that the Dodgers are really overboard with Like, come on,
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it's not even fair at this point. I'm not hating
on them. I'm just saying we gotta find reasons to
hate them.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I feel like they're smart with contracts. People make the
jokes about all the deferred money, but that's smart business.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
All right. There's two questions at hand here. I love
when you guys go at it. This is fine.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You're your feedback. By the way, at eight seven to
seven nine nine on Fox. There's two layers here. Layer one,
do you see a difference between the nineteen nineties Yankees
evil Empires? If you're saying they're the new evil Empire,
compare them to the old one.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well, let me finish the damn statement.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
The nineties Yankees versus the twenty twenties Dodgers. And I
hate to have Covinos back on this as a Mets fan,
but the Yankees were just able to keep their homegrown stars.
So when Jeter Soriano, Pisada, Mo Rivera, when those contracts
were up, those players opted to stay with the Yankees.
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You look at the Dodgers lineup that just won the
World Series. Freddie Freeman not homegrown, Mookie Betts not homegrown,
Sho hal Tani not homegrown, Yamamoto not homegrown. Now Blake's
now not homegrown.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
The star.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You could say Will Smith in lucks and that's cute
and all, but that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Don't give me your seven eight nine in line up
and say your team's homegrown.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You're gonna have a few.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But I don't blame it because I'm a Mets fan.
I Wantjan Soto, but just let's call a spade a spade.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
That's that's all I'm saying. I'm not mad at it.
That's just how bogd is.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
If I were, if I were major League Baseball, if
I was a star player, I'd want to go play
for the Dodgers in sunny California.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I think I think I have to like throw in something.
As far as the hate, I don't personally hate the Dodgers,
by I know plenty of people who do. Because you
bring up the deferred thing. The problem is with shohe
Atani that's like where where else?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
What other? Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You know, the organization can really get away with that
with his idea of deferred and that is where the
inherent power of something like a New York or in
LA comes in versus a lot of other places in
the rest of the country. At the end of the day,
I I mean, I don't whatever. I I'm mostly on
Ben Verlanders's side. You suck because you don't spend money.
We'll spend money. You bought this team not as a
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not a some vanity thing, but actually it's like, you know,
there's plenty of fans who see how much money the
Dodgers are thrown around, and that is a problem no
matter what.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They We talked about this on our afternoon show a
couple of days ago. They should be vetting potential owners
in all sports because we realize that sports, much like
real estate, there's certain things in life you can invest
in and you're gonna get great returns. Why do you
think celebrities and all these big time big rollers want
to invest in sports teams because it's clear the investment
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is a no lose If you want to buy a
franchise and you're a billionaire, they need to be convincing
that I want to compete. This is not just a
paper investment for me. I want to win. I'm not
just saying because I'm a Mets fan, but Steve Cohen
is the ideal owner fan. Billionaire wants to win. Mark
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Cuban wants to billionaire wants to win.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You have to understand these are the very expensive to
They're not your trust fund there now, They're not in
investments so you can make a profit off of the
gate they are here for they are they're lost leaders.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That's what I'm saying. There's there's thirty or thirty two
spots in all sports. Now, can I make a point
to if you're one of.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Those thirty people or groups, you better be in it
to win it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
This is not sour grapes at all. The Dodgers beat
the Yankees in the World Series, Okay, I'm a Yankees fan,
fair fine, but this is really starting to feel with
the Blake Snell thing, with the potential other acu UH acquisitions.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It is every big name that comes out of the
market they get.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
It's starting to feel like, now the Dodgers are buying
a championship.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Had no starting pitchers in the in the World Series,
you know, they use a bullpen.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
This is really what again the Yankees were being accused of.
The Yankees had Bernie Williams, they had all these you know,
homegrown people. The Dodgers do not have that. So to
compare them to even come up with a new name
because the Yankees were the evil Empire, this is something
else I thought.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I thought it was sour grapes when people talked like
this about the Yankees, and it still feels that way.
There's a different years later. There's not a difference. There's
a huge difference.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
No, there's not.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
There is just a tosialized hating of Yankees. There's a
play called those Damn Yankees.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
But the Dodgers are famously known for their farm system.
To say that they don't grow their own talent, well,
then they're going to.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Get other players because they're not playing. And then but
they're not playing all right, so everybody can grow all
right again.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Trade them for Ernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Robinson Cano, Marianna Rivera,
Andy Pettitt. These are all Clayshaw the Dodgers to Hitch,
he didn't even play.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I'm not talking necessarily one series.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Everyone who was part of the championship team this year
was purchased. And that's all they're doing again. Yeah, will
Smith had a few moments, no doubt, but there is
a major differen ference. I'm not mad at it, but
let's be honest about it. Let's be honest about it.
And if you want to compete against the Dodgers, who
are buying whoever they want, you gotta be a Mets fan.
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You gotta be a Giants fan, a Red Sox fan,
a Yankees fan. Otherwise you're not competing, which is why
these smaller market teams have to spend money. They have
to spend money to compete. When you see a young
star on a team and Danny and Kavino, I see
both your points. Meaning if you have a good farm
system and you use those pieces to get another player,
that's part of what makes a great front office in
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a franchise. But let's say the Padres take it away
from our teams. Do you look at Fernando tattists Junior
and Machado differently meaning Tattists Junior was a guy that
came up through the Padres versus Machado was a guy
they just threw money out. Or do you say no,
that equal footing. Do you look at the Mets and say, hey,
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Pete Alonso came up through the Mets organization versus if
they go after Soto or when they got Lindo.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I think the Padres are a great example of you
can buy if you want to say that players, and
it still may not work out. There's a lot of
other factors that go and when the Dodgers would fall
on their face in the past in the postseason, nobody
was complaining about their spending.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Now suddenly it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Because it doesn't it feel that way a little bit,
it's not starting.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
To There's a lot of other factors now. I think
perception is absolutely something. Once again Blake Snell comes up,
everyone wonders wheal last it was gonna land immediately with
the Dodgers show Atani immediately with the Dodgers. It's just
that can't rack up too many guys when you just
keep vacuuming up over and over and over, because then
at some point you're going to get that label, no
matter if it's right or not, that you're buying a championship.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I think what put me over the top, Danny, and
we'll take your feedback next at eight seven, seven, nine
to nine on Fox will put me over the top
Because for a.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
While I was like, hey, listen, the Dodgers are just.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Doing what other teams do, right same. But when Soto's
name also popped up with the Dodgers, I'm like, are
you kidding like, because then I'm thinking Freeman, Otani, Mookie
now Soto, like Jesus.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Mostly got this feeling with Yamamoto when that happened. It's
like you just got sho Hey Otani, you need Yamamoto too.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Come on.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
It's like you're throwing your head. You're like, come on.
And Braodo also wants to win. He was the last
one there on the railing watching the Dodgers celebrate.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
He does he does you know what we got phone call,
We got people on hold. We're gonna take all your feedback.
Should teams, should owners be vetted? Should there be a
salary not cap a floor in baseball?
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And do you think the Dodgers are doing exactly what
the Yankees did in the nineties or is it different?
And we'll take your feedback. Next in for Dan, Patrick
Cavino writch Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Happy Thanksgiving, going to your phone calls now at eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. We will throw it back,
alsoing fifty hits. But we got to get to this.
Let's kick old school till next hour, because Yeah, too
many people want to talk evil empires. Yeah, the Dodgers
are the real evil empire. And I don't say that
out of hate or disdain, but I do believe we
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have to start hating on the Dodgers a little bit
because they're doing what the Yankees were accused of doing.
The Yankees had homegrown talent, Yes they had the money
to keep them. But the Dodgers are seeking these players
out and buying them. The Yankees had the core for
these are homegrown guys, and they got the Paul O'Neills.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Who would he do?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He wasn't a superstar. They got all the right parts
the Tino Martinez is. They got all these other pitchers
and weapons, but El Duque homegrown, Ramiro mendoz A homegrown.
These were important players, Pasada, Williams, Jeter homegrown. And you're
saying that Gara Fleet that's completely different than the Dodgers,
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who are like completely different rookie freeman Otani get over here.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
They used to talent to get those guys.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I respect what the Yankees did more than I'm respecting
what the Dodgers are doing.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I mean, how do you not see the difference if.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Your Yankees had beat the Dodgers, would you still feel
this way?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yes, after after the Snell signing, after they're still in
the hunt for Soto and that Japanese dude, like.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Give me a break, I don't think Souse. After the
Dodgers lost in the postseason. Before this year, a couple
in a row, couple of post seasons in a row.
Nobody said this.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
They're not Dodgers, They're just a It's like pop radio.
You know, I have no respect for pop radio. It's
just a collection of all other great songs from other genres.
That's what the Dodgers are. They have a famous farm system,
the Dodgers are kiss FM.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
The Dodgers are kissing with them.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
It's just it's like, yeah, I'm gonna take the best
from here here, here, here, here, and there and there
you go. They don't like and now you got the
best ratings. You don't like Chambo, you know, the yank
You can't believe this is coming from you.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I'm taking away. I'm taking away is a jingle ball
tickets for his daughter.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
These are they were all baby bombers, born and grown
in the pinstripes and they won with the right peace.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm saying, baby bombers. Let's got the phone calls.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Nick in La, you started off Dodgers Yankees.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Do you see a difference. What's up?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Brother? Hey guys, good morning, happy thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Back at you man?
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Uh oh, of course I'll in La. I'm a Dodgers fan,
born and bred. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Andrew Freeman is.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
The best scout in the league, number one best sponsors.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Them in the league.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
They use Mookie Best came over and trade for Rudugo
who's now on the Yankees, who's struck.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Out by the way, and that last out from Walker Bueler,
who's also homegrown from the Dodgers.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
So no Dodgers. Yeah, are they buying talent? Yeah, but
best sponsors them in the league and they know what
they're doing.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
The part of the challenge find some people who aren't
Dodgers fans about this.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And by the way, they would keep these pleasures if
they were that great. They're auditioning them out to get
these other players. They're Giron and Casey.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What's up, bro?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (36:57):
What's up there? You taking the call?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Happy?
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (37:02):
Yeah, I think those should be a.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Salley floor, uh in baseball to give more.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Teams a chance, like especially.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Some small market teams like uh, Kansas City, Cincinnati. Yeah,
let's not dr let's not feel bad for these small
market billionaires. But like like like we make it sound
like how could they ever compete. We're talking about billionaire
groups or people that buy teams. Some Steve Cohen, the
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stem Runners, Dodgers, you know, Phillies. There are teams that
spend money. Don't ever feel bad for a billionaire that
is treating his team like an investment and doesn't want
to win.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Morgan and Bakersfield, what's.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Up, hery, how's it going, guys?
Speaker 7 (37:44):
I have the Thanksgiving anytime.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Man, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
So my thoughts of this world. I I just think
that when it comes to the Yankees, you can't really compare,
especially the late nineties Yankees the early two thousands because
the current Dods. Because the thing is, for every Bernie Williams,
there was what I thing to remember and Alex Rodriguez,
there was a Giombi, there was a Matt Sui.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Oh yeah, you're right. Were the Bernie Williams of the
Dodgers that matter.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Give me Smith, you think you're gonna pare him any
of the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Don't watch the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I watched enough to know that Dan Dandy, you're gonna
compare like lucks to like.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Will Smith is one of the most important pieces on
the Dodgers team.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Man, famous Will Smith.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
That's why it was a big struggle when.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
He was struggling. All right, that's true.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
All right, listen your feedback more MLB will talk some baseball,
of course, lots of NFL right here on Convine on
Richard for Dan Patrick, and we're gonna go old school
happy Thanksgiving from Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
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Thank you, guys, Fox Sports Radio Nation, for hanging out
with us on this special day.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You could be watching the parade, but you're here with us. Nothing.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
What's worse it a parade, A rainy parade that's got
to be miserable, because I get it. There's a fun
and a tradition in people in New York City going
to the Macy's Day Parade. So I'm not trying to
be a humbug, but it's raining out. Like, come on, kids,
let's go. We're going to a rainy parade. Along, there's
(00:49):
the Bluey Float, there's Mini Merrows, come on, stay home. Yeah,
Blax Rockets gotta be dancing in the rain. But hey,
enjoy your football, enjoy your Thanksgiving. Now, to wrap up
that last conversation, we're talking about what teams that are struggling,
struggling Joe Namath style.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I want to kiss you.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Did you see what struggling Jimmy Johnson said on DAK Prescott,
speaking of the Cowboys, said I would have never given
Prescott a new contract. I'd let him play it out.
He's the highest paid player in the league. He's not
the best player in the league. So he's saying straight up,
I would have never given Prescott a new contract. Now,
there are teams that are struggling that I said, if
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they ran it back next year, maybe luck went a
different way. Injuries didn't play a factor. I believe in
teams like the Cincinnati Bengals and the forty nine ers
in that they have a core that, when healthy, could
still very much compete. I don't think. I don't think
those win. They're healthy things. It's like Perfett said, that's
part of the game. No, I do know about the healthy.
(01:54):
But what I'm saying is I think the Bengals and
Niners are teams that I don't think you need to
blow up those organizations. However, I don't think the Cowboys
could run back this same squad, give me their next
four games again and expect differ results there for Cowens
seven in the NFCS got the Eagles, you got the Commanders.
(02:14):
They can't even beat the Giants at this point, so
or we'll find out today anyway. But like I said
about locking ahead, sometimes he's just one game at a time.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You know, Ricky who worked here, that does all the
great production.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But when one game is tough, tougher than the next, yeah,
you gotta be realistic. He's one of those guys, Ricky, Yeah,
does not believe.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And he's a fan. He's a fan.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He's like these these buffoons, because there are quote buffoons
that say, you know, maybe the Cowboys run the table
and seven.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
That's like you we you're forty nine or a little
more realistic.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think, all right, cowboys, let's say they beat the
Giants today, and by the way, get one more sip
of that coffee drink. I don't mind this. Some people
think that's rude. I think you're getting your money's worth
six drink. Get that last sip. Yeah, you're only doing
a national radio show, all right. So they beat the
Giants today, they're five and seven. Let's just say, right then,
you got to play the Bengals. I don't think you
beat the Bengals then you play the Panthers, all right,
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you win that one. But then again Bryce Young starting
to show signs of oh he's the guy. Maybe you
play the Bucks. They're fighting the Falcons. Buck stops there.
Then they play the Eagles and Commanders.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Get out of here. You're not winning. You're not winning.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
But I wanted to bring up one more team because
we talk about these teams every year. What do they say, Cavino?
The playoffs consist of six new teams every year. You
say to yourself, well, I don't see how it's going
to change from last year. We're already seeing Dolphins, Niners, Cowboys,
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teams that were in the mix last year already like
you know, not this year. So every year, without fail,
the parody of the league provides six ish playoff teams.
But I think the Bengals and Niners could run it
back next year with different results. I don't think the
Cowboys could. Here's the question, because Aaron Rodgers came out
this week and said, oh, you know, I do want
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to play another year, likely in the NFL. And I'd
prefer the Jets. Could the Jets with new coaching, with
maybe drafting some offensive line help with the weapons they
have Haul, DeVante Adams and Sus Gardner looking a little
lost on defensive times. But are the Jets a team
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that could run it back next year? And just think
with some alterations and new coaching, they could go from
misery to the Super Bowl pretender people thought they were
this year.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Even if you get Rex Ryan, get some chompers on
the sideline, get someone out there who's dynamic, agreat with
match up to culture, You're not gonna switch up the
culture enough to change the culture that Aaron Rodgers has created.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'll give dem Byer credit down. I was just gonna
say that.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, Den Bayer, who's the news guy on our Monday
through Friday show, said that if you're talking about changing
the culture for the Jets, it starts with part of
that culture is getting rid of Aaron Rodgers. Danny g Prefett,
Are there thoughts in your head?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Then?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And I gave the theo Epstein analogy. I was like,
that's the theo Epstein theory. If you saw the recent
documentary on Netflix, The Comeback about the two thousand and three,
two thousand and four Red Sox, theo Epstein in order
to change the culture and the winning attitude of the
Red Sox. He had to get rid of the best player,
No more Garcia para no Ma, you mean.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
The guy that is boss. How you get rid of
our only great player?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Like well, in order to change this culture, in order
to win, we have to get rid of this guy,
no Ma. And that's a bold move. And that's what
the Jets would have to do to change that culture. Now,
got to get rid of Rodgers. Pet is Aaron Rodgers
the problem? Or can they say no, no, no, we
can fix this team around Aaron Rodgers. I don't even
think Aaron Rodgers is their best player. Like we need
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to stop acting like it was three years ago when
he you know whatever, Like this is a guy who
went on a significant injury last year and this year
he has not played well at all. Like watching the
game is not playing well.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It's like Michael Jordan on the Wizards, where we're like.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Oh hey, this this I mean, I think the problem
is we fall in love with these guys and you
keep thinking back to their path. It's just like the
Tyson fight. You keep the last image you have is
usually a positive one, and it's hard for our brains
to process when someone is bad. Aaron Rodgers is badue
everybody sees their problem. He's losing them games, he's inaccurate,
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he throws interceptions, He's part of the reason. And then
he goes on with Pat McAfee or wherever he wants.
He complains about distractions in the locker room. My brother
in Christ, the calls coming from inside the house. You
are the distraction. I think the Jets should be looking
at Jets send this guy. He's owed a ton of money,
he's not playing well. Like I don't know what else
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needs to be up on the table other than his
name is Aaron Rodgers. And we all just like sniffing
Aaron Rodgers farts. We need to stop being addicted to
Aaron Rodgers farts. As they said in Billy Madison, A
simple no.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
What had done with Danny g Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I heard Garrett Wilson being interviewed just last night actually
and their two nights ago, and he made a great point.
He said, look, we are not going to play as
if there's nothing to gain, because we have families, we
have jobs on the line, with coaches and my teammates.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
He said, we need to keep Aaron here.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
And he didn't say it in these exact words, but
it made me feel like they need to go on
the type of run that you were talking about last
hour that you wish your forty nine ers would go on. Rich,
That's the only way even the biggest Jets fan would
think that Rogers has not overstayed as welcome.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
All right. You know me, I like to schedule watch.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I like to look ahead, so I think hit it
on the head too, though, Like we have again a
delusion and we're sniffing fart's like he said with the
Mike Tyson fight, right, how many people are saying it
was a fix.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
He could have beat him if he wanted to. It
was a fix.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Every person saying it was a fix is some crazy
Tyson fan who lives in a delusion of he's still
great now. How about he's fifty eight and he got
beat by a younger, stronger fighter and he couldn't pull
the trigger and that's just how fighting goes sometimes. Same
with Aaron Rodgers, Yo, he's not the same dude. You're
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still talking about him like it's five years ago. It's
not he battled injury. He's still coming back from that.
Like you to think that he's still the same guy.
He's built around him is just delusion?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Is he done?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Even Brett farre said he still got some gas and
he's still a good player.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But is he the same Aaron Rodgers and ill No.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think to your points, Steve, I think, especially in
foot we do see guys were able to go out
on top. We talk about Tom Brady, although we ignore
the last year, but like he was still good in
that finally still good, You're still good and he won
a super Bowl in Tampa. We think about Peyton Manning
final year wasn't good, but he got carried up to
a super Bowl, saying with John Lway, like, there's it's
in this idea that quarterbacks will always be great, and
(09:19):
I don't. And usually the reality is after you're thirty five,
you're facing a steep decline. Sometimes you're fighting it all
the time. I'll name drops a hold on you're going
to pick this up on here? Oh oh, Emmitt Smith.
Emmitt Smith once told me, he said, Rich, I go,
what's up?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Emmett?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
What's your name?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Again? He was on our show No Joke, promoting a
medicine for gout, but nonetheless we had him on the show.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
You gotta let him promote. With their promoter, EMMITTT.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Smith said, as you become an aging veteran, every year
when you show up at training camp, you could feel
yourself losing step by step. And he goes, there's one
year where when you used to be able to turn
that corner, and when you go to turn that corner
and there's a young defensive guy like waiting for you, Like,
(10:09):
oh man, I lost that step. You're everyone loses that step.
And your analogy was great with the Mike Tyson like
Mike Tython. We were picturing Mike Tyson knocking out people
in the eighties and nineties. We didn't want to think
he was fifty eight year old Mike Tyson against Jake Paul.
That's why we were all dumb and delusional. I agree
report and I at barstool when he said, anyone that
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thought Mike Tyson.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
W Win was an idiot and I was an idiot.
I was a chance.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But I just like Gronders had a chance. They've given
him every chance possible to make it happen. Looking at
the Jets schedule, they're three and eight. I think they'd
be they'd be lucky. If they were seven and ten, two.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Games against the Dolphins, a game against Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, if they split the Dolphins in that, that's generous.
I think they could beat the Seahawks this week get home.
And again, I'm not just not playing into my forty
nine ers have a chance theory. It's just I'm not
impressed by the Seahawks. And I think if the Jets
do win a game, I wouldn't be shocked if it's
in New York against Seattle having to travel, and I'm
okay with that one. So we'll see. But who could
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run it back with different results? Maybe the Bengals and Niners.
Who can't Cowboys and Jets.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I agree with that? Actually yeah I do. Won't we agree?
It's fact.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So any thoughts hit us at Covino and Rich at
Fox Sports Radio, at Danny g Radio, Danny Gradio and
appreciate it or call us eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. Now, we're gonna get into some MLB in
a few minutes. Talk a little free agency. Juan Soto,
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gotta tuck your Doyers too, Blake Snell the Dodgers. We'll
get to that. But on a Thanksgiving Thursday, as we
get ready for everyone to really like people are gonna
be diving head first like Pete Rose with his helmet,
flopping off into the holiday season after today, Christmas Everything,
Christmas everywhere. It all starts at the end of the parade.
(12:08):
Christmas all around us. Santa comes right. Santa is always
the last guy at the parade, and there he is
Santa Claus with Missus and the non sports related question
when you're thinking about the holiday season. He has a
million Christmas movie songs everything in fact, his Halloween specials
(12:30):
and songs and music Thanksgiving m hm. Is it safe
to say, oh, hey, what the Thanksgiving song? Is it
safe to say we have the Adam Sandler Turkey song?
And we got planes, trains and automobiles John Candy and
Steve Martin, And are those the only no Thanksgiving movie
(12:55):
and songs? Not the only, but the premiere and primary you.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Once pillows, those are pillows.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Those are pillows.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And then the scene at the rental card place, planes,
trains and automobiles, John Candy, Steve marta classic of course
the Turkey song Adam Sandler. I'm convinced we have one song,
one movie. Change my mind, because what else? What are
you gonna give me some old old timey time things,
or if you not, just watch Wizard of Oz yesterday
(13:33):
to hype yourself up for Wicked this weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, I think I want to take my daughter to
see Wicked.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I hate to break the news to you, but I'm
not saying it's a Thanksgiving movie about Thanksgiving. But it
aired on Thanksgiving or the day before Thanksgiving for our
whole childhood, so I associate that with Thanksgiving. March of
the Wooden Soldiers always aired right after the Parade Babes
and Toyland. It's a classic, by the way, I know
you've never seen it, turning in black and white.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
You talk about Grandpappy movies. Norbit.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We quoted Norbit before Turkey ass Eat up Sucker, he
ate the Turkey.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You mean the Eddie Murphy classic Norbit. Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's not like a movie about Thanksgiving. I agree completely.
There's not a lot of movies about Thanksgiving. There's not
a lot of songs about Thanksgiving. But I don't think
they're the only ones. To answer your questions, can I
tell you about the most boring ass special of all time?
When we were kids, how we sat through this is
beyond me. Last night, I'm laying about with the kids,
(14:32):
like mom, Dad, we lay with you tonight, And I'm like, hey,
what the heck, it's a day off of school. Sure,
Dad's gonna wake up early for Dan Patrick. What do
you want to watch? We threw on the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving.
There you go, there's another one, trash, So thanks for
giving me more, Ammo. To answer your question, is it
the only one? No? And I like the Charlie Brown
(14:53):
Thanksgiving any writed Franklin to the party, that was awesome,
Unity family. I like Charlie Brown. I grew up with that,
So I'm that's another one Charlie Brown. So it's not
the only. But yeah, playing trains automobiles. Speaking of Charlie Brown,
I rather him kicking than Jake Moody for the forty
nine ers.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So hey, we'll get to some baseball next. But if
I'm missing something, I feel like we are. We're lacking.
Like there's a window for some young comedian or someone
to make a Thanksgiving classic Thanksgiving movie, Like there's no
Like I think there's a window where, you know, we
say it's hard to break through the new Christmas song
because there's so many classics. I think you could make
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a Thanksgiving related comedy and it could be like the
new standard of the Don't worry. The Kelsey's are working
on it. I knew Thanksgiving album and movie coming soon.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Geez, you know what, I wouldn't doubt that we got more.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Cavino and Rich we are live in the Tirack dot
Com studio, Mercedes Ben Studios for the great Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
We got more next. Look, I'm an eighties kid, right.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You see all these eighties kids playing Kiss and dressed
up like Kiss, wearing Kiss t shirts, you know, blasting
led Zeppelin, and I just remember hearing that like on
my streets, like thinking, man, rock is cool, and that
also makes me think a school of rock. Jack Black. Hey,
that's a fun family movie, maybe to watch late VI.
But I felt the opposite of what you felt. I
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would see those guys would be like I don't want
to be that.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
No, I was like a burnout guy listening to like
eighties rock.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I'm like, nah, to.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Get a feathered haircut, a rabbit's foot denim jacket and
a camaro and a camaro.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'll tell you what, I'm a little younger than you,
but I felt like the first time I was like,
well that's cool, is when I think we all fell
victim of like I have, Like you have a mushroom haircut,
some flannel shirts, and you're.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Like, I think I'm looking nineties rock kids.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well yeah, no, I obviously morphed into the nineties Grande era.
But you know, if you're an eighties kid, you heard
some late seventies rock for sure. Kids were blasting that
back then. Anyway, thanks for hanging out with us, Covin
and Rich everything at Covino and Rich Danny g super
producing eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. He's always
putting our podcast up too. If you guys want to
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check it out, just search Covino and Rich, CoV I
and O covid usually comes up first, but ignore that.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, we're trying to forget about that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So Covino and Rich feed is here and in about
twenty minutes, twenty plus minutes, Old.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
School win fifty hits.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We throw it back every Thursday, speaking of burnouts, an
old school led Zeppelin we reminisce and this has to
do with your drunken deal El Bonacco. You're a drunken
family member who did something wild, maybe at the holiday table,
right those moments that you tried to forget, But now
we're gonna laugh about him here on the show. Start
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thinking about him. Plus we got to talk some Dodgers,
but rich to wrap up the teams in the NFL
that still have a shot. I think your forty nine
ers still have a shot if they make the right moves,
or maybe not make any moves at all. Health might
be what turns it around. And off the air we
were talking about, I think the Eagles are the best
example of it's possible if you do it right. They
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went from the Super Bowl to sucking it up, and
now they're right back in the mix because they got
Saquon Barkley and a few coaching changes here and there,
but you know, they're right back in it. So if
you handle it right, you could be right back there
where you were.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
But if you miss step, it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
When you start slipping, like like the Cowboys, like the
forty nine ers, like the Bengals, it's such a touchy,
tricky moment.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's like saving a relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's like a relationship I was gonna make the analogy
of a like your diet and the gym. If you're
at the forty nine Ers or Bengals, another slippery slope.
And you know, if you're the forty nine Ers or
Bengals and you're like, yeah, man, injuries and some you know,
rough calls here and there, you can let yourself we
are turn it around. We could find our way back.
It's like not going to the gym for two weeks
because you get a little injury. This could be the
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beginning of you becoming a slob and a fatsob. Or
you could be like I had a couple of rough weeks,
a rough season, then you find your way back. I
think the Cowboys and Jets essentially need a new personal trainer.
But I think the Niners, as I have officially let
themselves go. I'll say Bengals forty nine ers could pull
an Eagles and be back next year if it's handled properly.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You know what, Nick Sirianni sort of dodged a bullet.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
If you remember that Eagles team, God, there were one
Jalen Hurts fumble away from winning a Super Bowl, right yeah,
but then maybe the next year, I mean he had
some injury. But the next year, maybe it's a little overconfident,
like you're forty nine ers this year. But if you
remember Sirianni Jalen Hurts Super Bowl a fumble away.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
From beating Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
The next year, they started hot and then the wheels
fell off and you thought, wow, that was a quick
little run.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Mm hm. And another we thought there.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Were people that thought this year, mah Eagles. Man, they
don't got the juice. They got the juice. It's the
cowboy because every year for the last five plus years
that NFC East has been, hey, bro, who do you
got Cowboys or Eagles? Because the Giants have been sort
of dog water. Then Washington surprise people, and in fact,
(20:17):
I'm not sold on Washington yet. In fact, while they
were my long shot to make the playoffs this year,
because I do like Jayden Daniels, they're they're looking like
they're they're showing signs of vulnerability. Like I think they'll
still make the playoffs, but I think it's the Eagle,
Like Eagles run away with this division now, I.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Really do think that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
All right, So your phone calls to wrap it up
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox at Covino and
Rich and now I think we talk about the Doyers,
the Dodgers a lot of people, even our own Rob Parker,
I believe, was saying yesterday they're.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
The new evil Empire, and I do belie leave that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think what we're seeing here is the Dodgers buying championships.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I do feel that way. Do you hear this coming
from a Yankees fan? Yeah? I do feel that way.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Look, let's think about what happened this past week. They
signed Snell one hundred and eighty one hundred eighty two million,
five years. He's thirty one years old, it'll be thirty
six by the end of that contract.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You add him to an already potent.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Lineup, potent team, championship team, pitching staff. They're gonna get
that other Japanese dude they're trying to get. They're still
in the mix for Soto, like give me, I don't
forget Otani will pitch.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
So we also talked about yeah, yeah, well here's the difference,
you said, coming from a Yankees fan. But I'm gonna
tell you what I think the difference is. And this
is no hate. I'm not a Dodgers hater.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Not at all. I live here in LA I want
to read a tweet that goes along with this whole.
Say Ben Verlander.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Ben Verlander, who the brother of Justin Verlander, who's a
great broadcaster at MLB. At work, Ben Verlander. My favorite
thing about him is he had one preseason one spring
training at bat against his brother back in the day
and hit a home run.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's a cool moment.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But Ben Verlander put on social media, are people really
that bothered by the Snell signing? Baseball is by far
the sport with the most parody in the US. Haven't
had a repeat winner since two thousand.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Your Yankees couldino.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Seems people are upset before they have a reason to be.
Don't be mad at the Dodgers. Be mad at your
team for being cheap. And I agree with that too.
So I'm not mad at the Dodgers, Danny g I'm
really not. I'm not at all. I'm a Yankees fan.
I'm not mad at Riches mad. But how can you say.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
I'm confused?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I was a question any team for spending money. But
I will say this, here's the difference between the Yankees
when they were the Evil Empire and the Dodgers, who
are now the evil Empire the Yankees when they went
on that run, which was magical, by the way, and
it gave me tons of false confidence.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
That I carry till this day. Just by being a fan. Yeah,
just by being a fan, I felt like a winner.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Brought me to Fox Sports Radio all these years later,
gave me something to cheer for. It did change my
life and outlook in a lot of ways. The Yankees
built around their homegrown talent, which led them to championships,
and it was always that that false narrative of the
Yankees buy championships. Really did they buy Derek Jeter? Did
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they buy Andy Pettitt, Did they buy Mo Rivera? Did
they buy Jory Pisada? Did they buy Alfonso Soriano? Did
they buy all these These are homegrown people that were
talking about Robbie. They know they had the money to
keep them. No, they built around them. Though they built
around them. The Dodgers are just getting whoever they want
because they can.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's the difference. Am I mad at it?
Speaker 7 (23:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But there is a different So when you say they're
the new evil Empire, they are really what people were
accusing the Yankees of being the Yankees were flooded with
homegrown talent, flooded with it. The Dodgers got a few people.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Let me ask you, Covino, then why are the Dodgers
always ranked in the top three as far as farm
systems go.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
They're great and maybe they have a lot of great talent.
One of their stars here, will Smith, Danny, Let's be real,
he's a star. He's one of their stars.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Star.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
He had a few moments in the cornerstone of the team.
Andy has lux Miller the stars. What did the What
did the Dodgers do at the trade deadline? They got
Flirty and Edmund by using assets they had from the farm.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Okay, that's there, and that changed their posts.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You don't see the difference of building around the homegrown
core four and other Yankee homegrown talent. There there's no
rule that says you have to make saying there's a
new rule. I'm saying, don't I don't understand that. This
is the difference between the old evil Empire and they're
the new evil Empire. The Dodgers really are. The thing is,
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they're not that hateable, which is why I'm saying we
gotta start hating on them.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We gotta start hating on the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Okay, so the bottom barrel MLB team, do they have
all homegrown talent?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
No, they gotta spend money.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
There has to be there has to be obviously a
salary floor, meaning you can't just buy a team and
use that as an investment. You have to buy a
team and be willing to compete, be willing to spend money.
So the teams that aren't spending money, I agree with
Ben Verlander all the way, right, But I also agree
that the Dodgers are really overboard with Like, come on,
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it's not even fair at this point. I'm not hating
on them. I'm just saying we gotta find reasons to
hate them.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I feel like they're smart with contracts. People make the
jokes about all the deferred money, but that's smart business.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
All right. There's two questions at hand here. I love
when you guys go at it. This is fine.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You're your feedback. By the way, at eight seven to
seven nine nine on Fox. There's two layers here. Layer one,
do you see a difference between the nineteen nineties Yankees
evil Empires? If you're saying they're the new evil Empire,
compare them to the old one.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well, let me finish the damn statement.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
The nineties Yankees versus the twenty twenties Dodgers. And I
hate to have Covinos back on this as a Mets fan,
but the Yankees were just able to keep their homegrown stars.
So when Jeter Soriano, Pisada, Mo Rivera, when those contracts
were up, those players opted to stay with the Yankees.
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You look at the Dodgers lineup that just won the
World Series. Freddie Freeman not homegrown, Mookie Betts not homegrown,
Sho hal Tani not homegrown, Yamamoto not homegrown. Now Blake's
now not homegrown.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
The star.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You could say Will Smith in lucks and that's cute
and all, but that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Don't give me your seven eight nine in line up
and say your team's homegrown.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You're gonna have a few.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But I don't blame it because I'm a Mets fan.
I Wantjan Soto, but just let's call a spade a spade.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
That's that's all I'm saying. I'm not mad at it.
That's just how bogd is.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
If I were, if I were major League Baseball, if
I was a star player, I'd want to go play
for the Dodgers in sunny California.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I think I think I have to like throw in something.
As far as the hate, I don't personally hate the Dodgers,
by I know plenty of people who do. Because you
bring up the deferred thing. The problem is with shohe
Atani that's like where where else?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
What other? Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You know, the organization can really get away with that
with his idea of deferred and that is where the
inherent power of something like a New York or in
LA comes in versus a lot of other places in
the rest of the country. At the end of the day,
I I mean, I don't whatever. I I'm mostly on
Ben Verlanders's side. You suck because you don't spend money.
We'll spend money. You bought this team not as a
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not a some vanity thing, but actually it's like, you know,
there's plenty of fans who see how much money the
Dodgers are thrown around, and that is a problem no
matter what.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They We talked about this on our afternoon show a
couple of days ago. They should be vetting potential owners
in all sports because we realize that sports, much like
real estate, there's certain things in life you can invest
in and you're gonna get great returns. Why do you
think celebrities and all these big time big rollers want
to invest in sports teams because it's clear the investment
(28:33):
is a no lose If you want to buy a
franchise and you're a billionaire, they need to be convincing
that I want to compete. This is not just a
paper investment for me. I want to win. I'm not
just saying because I'm a Mets fan, but Steve Cohen
is the ideal owner fan. Billionaire wants to win. Mark
(28:55):
Cuban wants to billionaire wants to win.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You have to understand these are the very expensive to
They're not your trust fund there now, They're not in
investments so you can make a profit off of the
gate they are here for they are they're lost leaders.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
That's what I'm saying. There's there's thirty or thirty two
spots in all sports. Now, can I make a point
to if you're one of.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Those thirty people or groups, you better be in it
to win it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
This is not sour grapes at all. The Dodgers beat
the Yankees in the World Series, Okay, I'm a Yankees fan,
fair fine, but this is really starting to feel with
the Blake Snell thing, with the potential other acu UH acquisitions.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It is every big name that comes out of the
market they get.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
It's starting to feel like, now the Dodgers are buying
a championship.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Had no starting pitchers in the in the World Series,
you know, they use a bullpen.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
This is really what again the Yankees were being accused of.
The Yankees had Bernie Williams, they had all these you know,
homegrown people. The Dodgers do not have that. So to
compare them to even come up with a new name
because the Yankees were the evil Empire, this is something
else I thought.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I thought it was sour grapes when people talked like
this about the Yankees, and it still feels that way.
There's a different years later. There's not a difference. There's
a huge difference.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
No, there's not.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
There is just a tosialized hating of Yankees. There's a
play called those Damn Yankees.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
But the Dodgers are famously known for their farm system.
To say that they don't grow their own talent, well,
then they're going to.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Get other players because they're not playing. And then but
they're not playing all right, so everybody can grow all
right again.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Trade them for Ernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Robinson Cano, Marianna Rivera,
Andy Pettitt. These are all Clayshaw the Dodgers to Hitch,
he didn't even play.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I'm not talking necessarily one series.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Everyone who was part of the championship team this year
was purchased. And that's all they're doing again. Yeah, will
Smith had a few moments, no doubt, but there is
a major differen ference. I'm not mad at it, but
let's be honest about it. Let's be honest about it.
And if you want to compete against the Dodgers, who
are buying whoever they want, you gotta be a Mets fan.
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You gotta be a Giants fan, a Red Sox fan,
a Yankees fan. Otherwise you're not competing, which is why
these smaller market teams have to spend money. They have
to spend money to compete. When you see a young
star on a team and Danny and Kavino, I see
both your points. Meaning if you have a good farm
system and you use those pieces to get another player,
that's part of what makes a great front office in
(31:33):
a franchise. But let's say the Padres take it away
from our teams. Do you look at Fernando tattists Junior
and Machado differently meaning Tattists Junior was a guy that
came up through the Padres versus Machado was a guy
they just threw money out. Or do you say no,
that equal footing. Do you look at the Mets and say, hey,
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Pete Alonso came up through the Mets organization versus if
they go after Soto or when they got Lindo.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I think the Padres are a great example of you
can buy if you want to say that players, and
it still may not work out. There's a lot of
other factors that go and when the Dodgers would fall
on their face in the past in the postseason, nobody
was complaining about their spending.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Now suddenly it's a problem.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Because it doesn't it feel that way a little bit,
it's not starting.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
To There's a lot of other factors now. I think
perception is absolutely something. Once again Blake Snell comes up,
everyone wonders wheal last it was gonna land immediately with
the Dodgers show Atani immediately with the Dodgers. It's just
that can't rack up too many guys when you just
keep vacuuming up over and over and over, because then
at some point you're going to get that label, no
matter if it's right or not, that you're buying a championship.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I think what put me over the top, Danny, and
we'll take your feedback next at eight seven, seven, nine
to nine on Fox will put me over the top
Because for a.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
While I was like, hey, listen, the Dodgers are just.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Doing what other teams do, right same. But when Soto's
name also popped up with the Dodgers, I'm like, are
you kidding like, because then I'm thinking Freeman, Otani, Mookie
now Soto, like Jesus.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Mostly got this feeling with Yamamoto when that happened. It's
like you just got sho Hey Otani, you need Yamamoto too.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Come on.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
It's like you're throwing your head. You're like, come on.
And Braodo also wants to win. He was the last
one there on the railing watching the Dodgers celebrate.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
He does he does you know what we got phone call,
We got people on hold. We're gonna take all your feedback.
Should teams, should owners be vetted? Should there be a
salary not cap a floor in baseball?
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And do you think the Dodgers are doing exactly what
the Yankees did in the nineties or is it different?
And we'll take your feedback. Next in for Dan, Patrick
Cavino writch Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Happy Thanksgiving, going to your phone calls now at eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. We will throw it back,
alsoing fifty hits. But we got to get to this.
Let's kick old school till next hour, because Yeah, too
many people want to talk evil empires. Yeah, the Dodgers
are the real evil empire. And I don't say that
out of hate or disdain, but I do believe we
(34:14):
have to start hating on the Dodgers a little bit
because they're doing what the Yankees were accused of doing.
The Yankees had homegrown talent, Yes they had the money
to keep them. But the Dodgers are seeking these players
out and buying them. The Yankees had the core for
these are homegrown guys, and they got the Paul O'Neills.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Who would he do?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He wasn't a superstar. They got all the right parts
the Tino Martinez is. They got all these other pitchers
and weapons, but El Duque homegrown, Ramiro mendoz A homegrown.
These were important players, Pasada, Williams, Jeter homegrown. And you're
saying that Gara Fleet that's completely different than the Dodgers,
(34:56):
who are like completely different rookie freeman Otani get over here.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
They used to talent to get those guys.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I respect what the Yankees did more than I'm respecting
what the Dodgers are doing.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I mean, how do you not see the difference if.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Your Yankees had beat the Dodgers, would you still feel
this way?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yes, after after the Snell signing, after they're still in
the hunt for Soto and that Japanese dude, like.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Give me a break, I don't think Souse. After the
Dodgers lost in the postseason. Before this year, a couple
in a row, couple of post seasons in a row.
Nobody said this.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
They're not Dodgers, They're just a It's like pop radio.
You know, I have no respect for pop radio. It's
just a collection of all other great songs from other genres.
That's what the Dodgers are. They have a famous farm system,
the Dodgers are kiss FM.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
The Dodgers are kissing with them.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
It's just it's like, yeah, I'm gonna take the best
from here here, here, here, here, and there and there
you go. They don't like and now you got the
best ratings. You don't like Chambo, you know, the yank
You can't believe this is coming from you.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I'm taking away. I'm taking away is a jingle ball
tickets for his daughter.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
These are they were all baby bombers, born and grown
in the pinstripes and they won with the right peace.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm saying, baby bombers. Let's got the phone calls.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Nick in La, you started off Dodgers Yankees.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Do you see a difference. What's up?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Brother? Hey guys, good morning, happy thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Back at you man?
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Uh oh, of course I'll in La. I'm a Dodgers fan,
born and bred. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Andrew Freeman is.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
The best scout in the league, number one best sponsors.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Them in the league.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
They use Mookie Best came over and trade for Rudugo
who's now on the Yankees, who's struck.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Out by the way, and that last out from Walker Bueler,
who's also homegrown from the Dodgers.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
So no Dodgers. Yeah, are they buying talent? Yeah, but
best sponsors them in the league and they know what
they're doing.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
The part of the challenge find some people who aren't
Dodgers fans about this.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And by the way, they would keep these pleasures if
they were that great. They're auditioning them out to get
these other players. They're Giron and Casey.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What's up, bro?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (36:57):
What's up there? You taking the call?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Happy?
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (37:02):
Yeah, I think those should be a.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Salley floor, uh in baseball to give more.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Teams a chance, like especially.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Some small market teams like uh, Kansas City, Cincinnati. Yeah,
let's not dr let's not feel bad for these small
market billionaires. But like like like we make it sound
like how could they ever compete. We're talking about billionaire
groups or people that buy teams. Some Steve Cohen, the
(37:30):
stem Runners, Dodgers, you know, Phillies. There are teams that
spend money. Don't ever feel bad for a billionaire that
is treating his team like an investment and doesn't want
to win.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Morgan and Bakersfield, what's.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Up, hery, how's it going, guys?
Speaker 7 (37:44):
I have the Thanksgiving anytime.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Man, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
So my thoughts of this world. I I just think
that when it comes to the Yankees, you can't really compare,
especially the late nineties Yankees the early two thousands because
the current Dods. Because the thing is, for every Bernie Williams,
there was what I thing to remember and Alex Rodriguez,
there was a Giombi, there was a Matt Sui.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Oh yeah, you're right. Were the Bernie Williams of the
Dodgers that matter.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Give me Smith, you think you're gonna pare him any
of the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Don't watch the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I watched enough to know that Dan Dandy, you're gonna
compare like lucks to like.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Will Smith is one of the most important pieces on
the Dodgers team.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Man, famous Will Smith.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
That's why it was a big struggle when.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
He was struggling. All right, that's true.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
All right, listen your feedback more MLB will talk some baseball,
of course, lots of NFL right here on Convine on
Richard for Dan Patrick, and we're gonna go old school
happy Thanksgiving from Fox Sports Radio.
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