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November 1, 2024 40 mins

Dan cannot fathom why we are still seeing players dropping the football right on (or before) they actually get into the end zone. And Hall of Fame hooper Charles Barkley joins the show and weighs in on load management, Bronny James and everything roundball.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two. It's a meet Friday, and we're fully assembled.
Paulie is back after a couple of days, a little
scared with his eye got a patch on today, but
he's back because he knows every day is the super Bowl,
yesterday before and the day before. As you missed the
super Bowl. Patch Adams is back with us, and Fritzi

(00:25):
will be with us for one more hour and then
he'll be off. In the final hour. He did secure
Charles Barkley for today, and thank you for doing that.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's my John. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
In case you're wondering, it's a meat Friday, and in
honor of Paulie, we have rib eyes. We have black
eyed peas and sweet potato fries that have nothing to
do with eyes. But that's the theme today. Who is
it better than we do? No buddy, So Charles Barkley
will join us. Coming up a little bit. New Foliage

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which is where you can see this program. We say
good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. The
Dodgers got their parade today. I'm not sure the parade route.
Is the parade route the same for every Los Angeles
based team.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, I just got this in from ABC seven out
in LA.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
They said, no, it to me.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Nice of them to get up early. So the parade
route usually for LA teams goes through the downtown. It's
a The pride route is one point two miles long.
It starts at eleven o'clock local time and it ends
at Dodger Stadium. It starts at Gloria Molina Grand Park
in front of City Hall and then it ends on

(02:00):
South Grand Avenue. From there it wiggles through to Flower Street,
which is very popular, and then ends. They're eventually going
to a Dodger Stadium for like a big celebration at
a ticketed event.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Okay, I like that. Yeah, congratulations get their big victory.
Prey that they didn't get a couple of years ago,
Jets over the Texans. Jets now three and six. You
watch the game and you probably feel a little better
about the Jets than you do the Texans.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
C J.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Stroud was wonderful last year, Rookie of the Year. Texans
go to the playoffs, they get Joe Mixon, they get
Stefan Diggs, and you're thinking, all right, next step time here.
That has not been the case. Stroud has averaged just
one hundred and seventy nine yards in less than a
touchdown per game through the air. And you've got some

(02:47):
injuries here, so Diggs is out for the rest of
the season. That offensive line is terrible. Through nine weeks.
The Houston offensive line is surrendered the second most sacks
in the NFL this season. So Stroud is probably not
going to be taking that next step, at least not
anytime soon, because that offensive line is not going to

(03:09):
allow him. But the Jets did play extremely well up
fromp They put pressure on him, they sacked him, they
hit him. Here's CJ. Stroud after the loss.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
You know, to come out here on the primesive game
and you know, get embarrassed like that is never fun.
And you know, I believe you know, we have to
be better in a lot of areas, you know, and
that starts with me. You know, I think there's players
I gotta make, girls, I gotta make you know, times
I got to send the pocket and just trust my guys.
So I really point to figure out being realize, you know,
I got to be better as a football player, and
you know, if we want to win, this is not

(03:40):
the rest before we got to learn how to dominate.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You do want to say you need help if the
offensive line gave me a little time, But I don't
want to criticize anybody here. This is where you got
to say all the right things. Nico Collins is not back.
I mean, you know they're they're waiting to get fully
assembled here. But that offensive line it it's you're going
to have to call plays in accordance to the lack

(04:05):
of protection that he's getting. So you have to change
your philosophy here. Now it's got to be quick passes,
rely on the run a little bit more. I'm surprised
they didn't just stay with the run and go right
at the Jets defense because the Jets defense hasn't been
good against the run. But they got after CJ. Stroud.
They got a much needed win and here's Aaron Rodgers

(04:26):
after the victory.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
Kind of season on the line there in second half.
Obviously we wouldn't have been mathematically eliminated, but mentally to
go to two and seven would have been real tough.
Hopefully le's get this confidence so that we can be anybody.
Just we feel like we could.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
And Garrett Wilson was the star last night. Nine catches
ninety yards in the win and had the one handed grab,
So he has two hundred and thirty eight receptions, most
by any Jet is first three seasons. And they've had
some really good receivers also as receiving yards right behind
it Soon and Keishawn Johnson. But Garrett Wilson, that was

(05:04):
one of those. Oh that's right. He used to be
really good. And you know you had DeVante Adams catching
a touchdown pass, so it feels like that's what they
should be. And I said, it's a frustrating win if
I'm a Jets fan, because where has this been? Why
haven't we seen more glimpses of this? Did the offense
change last night? Because it felt like and Rex Ryan

(05:26):
said that yesterday the offensive play calling has been terrible,
and I don't know if they're changing things. He said,
you don't get motion. You know you're you're looking for
things what makes your offense dynamic other than you got
Aaron Rodgers. Well, Aaron Rodgers needs a lot of help.
This version of Aaron Rodgers. Todd in Ohio leads us off. Hi, Todd,

(05:48):
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 7 (05:50):
Well, good morning, Dan. I'm just curious if you had
any couple of ten dollars bills on those first touchdowns
of the game where the guy lets go to the
ball before the end zone and then he makes the
catch and defense scores, but no, neither one of them.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, I don't get this where we see receivers. I
don't know if Deshaun Jackson's the first to do this,
but I do remember him that you dropped the ball
before you get to the goal line. And Seaton brought
up something earlier this morning. We were talking about this,
and he said, you know, they're traveling so fast that

(06:25):
they may think they're actually in the end zone because
the end zone what ten yards? And then you're running, running,
running running, and then it feels like am I in
the end zone? But I would do what Davante Adams
did I would just I catch the ball. It's a touchdown.
I'm holding onto the ball and I'm going over to
the bench. This is what's this guy's name, al Tai Corling.

(06:50):
This is your first career touchdown. It would have been
it's National TV.

Speaker 8 (06:56):
Aaron Rodgers threw it to you. You keep the ball,
especially your first touchdown reception, and you're dropping it, Like
what do this has happened? It happens in college a
lot too, Like I don't know what this is. It's like,
we're gonna, we're gonna make it so you actually have

(07:19):
to reverse this call. We're gonna we're gonna test you,
like I'm trying to understand.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
What is this? Like the coolness factor? Hey, do you
see what I did? Man? I dropped that right there
on the goal line. You know what's cool? When you
score the touchdown, that's really cool. You don't want America
to know your name because you didn't get into the
end zone, mister Corley. But that's what happened last night. Inexcusable.

(07:52):
Your first touchdown reception. Hold on to that ball for
dear life. Put under lock and key right after you
you get done.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
And why are you saying the whorse it gets?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Just say, hey, would you put that in my locker
and lock my locker. That's my first I'm gonna get
Aaron to sign that ball like this. This is a
big deal and you're gonna be you're styling. I'm gonna
drop the ball right here and then you go, oh
my god. Jason and Maryland, Hi, Jason.

Speaker 9 (08:25):
Hey, gentlemen, Happy Friday to you. Good to talk to you. Look,
I have it belated best of the weekend from several
weeks ago. I couldn't get in to talk about it.
But it's related to these catches, and I think Seaton
brings up a good point about are we talking about
the impactful catch or the skill catch? And Daniel Jackson
from University of Minnesota. I'm not a fan. I just
happened to catch a random game and saw this play.

(08:48):
Google the catch. I'm telling you, I think pound for
pound against Odell Garrett Wilson, either one of them, the
way he could toworted his hand. He's in the back
of the end zone with a receiver I'm sorry, with
the defender draped all over. It is absolutely impressive. I'm
almost fifty years old, I've seen a lot of catches.
I'm telling you, gentlemen, it is there. Take a look. Secondly,
I just wanted to say real quick for Marvin and Pritzy,

(09:11):
who do you think is more comfortable in the darkness?
Aaron Rodgers or James in Virginia? I love you guys.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't think James needs to go into the darkness.
And he's very comfortable in the darkness. Yeah, he can
be if you see. But you've got to make peace
with the darkness. That's all.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
I think he's talking about more James being comfortable out
of barbecue and Aaron Rodgers going into a cave.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh oh, oh, so this is this is a whole
different kind of thing, I think. So.

Speaker 10 (09:42):
Yeah, I don't think it's ayahuasca based for James.

Speaker 11 (09:45):
Oh oh wow. I didn't go that deep on and
so for the caller. Don't refer to us as their darkness?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Also correct? Correct all of us? Oh, all five of us?
We're with you? Yeah, yeah, patronize us. Yeah, it's a Friday,
Lynn and News. We're going to leave an hour early. Yes, Todd,

(10:12):
we're all going with you. We're just going to march out. Yeah,
leave dead air for him. Now we'll go You know what,
the backroom guys can take over. They should Lynn in
New Mexico.

Speaker 12 (10:21):
Hi Lynn, Hey, damn big fan. I've seen a Novembers
go by, and during one of those years, I saw
Michael Irving fall out run make a touchdown with one
reached up and wrapped that big paw he is around
the football and made a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Okay, We've had a lot of one headed grabs, a
lot of great grabs. You could make a case and
this is the pole question, you know, the greatest grab
of all time. If I'm factoring in when it happened,
then it comes down to David Tyree and it comes
down to Franco Harris because David tyrese led to a

(11:03):
Super Bowl win and Franco got to the Steelers past
the Raiders that year. I mean, Eli Manning is going
to the Hall of Fame partially due to David Tyree's catch,
because if he only has one Super Bowl given his numbers,
he's not going to be a Hall of Famer. They

(11:24):
get the touchdown and then all of a sudden they
you know, he has the lob pass to Plexico Urus
and then they win the Super Bowl. That's how big
that catch was and how difficult that catch was, and
it was against his helmet, And as Fritzie said, well
but he's using his helmet that actually helped him. And
I said to Fritzie, tell me all of the great
grabs in history where somebody used their helmet for a catch. Yeah,

(11:48):
not probably probably not going to find it. Yes, Paul, I've.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Always felt a little bad for a plexico because his
catch was pretty benign. He was on like a five
to ten guy.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Migellis Hobbs.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, it was an easy throw and easy catch for him.
But because of Tyree's catch moments before the game winner
gets put in the back burner.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, there's a few of those. We had one in
the Seattle game that if if the Seahawks scored the touchdown,
the go ahead touchdown, and who is it curse if
he like that catch was wild and then that led
to them being down by the goal line. Julio Jones

(12:25):
is catching the Super Bowl. That might be the most
forgotten catch because it has you down I think at
the twenty one or twenty two yard line. All you
have to do is take three knees, kick a field
goal and you're up by eleven and we forget about
Julio jones Is and it's an unbelievable grap and it's

(12:48):
an oh by the way, yeah, Marph.

Speaker 11 (12:50):
Larry Fitzgerald too, that great run where you see him
looking up at the jumbo tron right before.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, but I'm talking about the catch. Okay, that was
just a great play by Larry. But Julio jones Is
grab in traffic getting both feet down was going to
set up, you know, a field goal that would make
the comeback impossible for the Patriots, so that I would
factor that one in. David in Ohio, Hi, David, what's
on your mind today?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (13:18):
Hey Dan, Happy meat Friday. I got a new idea
for some good content for your show. Could have you
and Kane Irving. Do you like a sort of Manning
cast where you guys like smoke cigars and you know,
drink down in your basement and you can call us
the Banning Cast.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Okay, I don't know if I want to be around
Shan Irving that much. It's nice when I see him.
He's part of the Gambling podcast, but he does call
us best friends now, and I said, you know, we're friends,
but yeah, Shane Irving having cigars, drinking tequila or some

(14:02):
keepers sort what could go wrong? Everything, Luke and Charlotte.
Then we'll take a break. Charles Barkley will join us.
Coming up, Hey Louke.

Speaker 9 (14:13):
Hey guys, Happy meat Friday. I was just going to
weigh in on.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
The catch, I mean, pound for pounds.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
Odell is wait, hold on, sorry, Paul wants to talk
to you one second.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Thank you. Little Tanya Harding callback there? How long ago
was that? Is that earlier?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Five? Dang?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Four oh five? Like nineteen years ago? I think we
had Tanya Harding on.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go spring o five.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, yeah, I don't keep track of it. I couldn't.
I couldn't. I try to forget how detailed files.

Speaker 14 (14:53):
I know?

Speaker 3 (14:54):
You do?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
You and Todd?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I know I'm doing an interview. Oh my gosh. Now
it's one of the great ones and one of the
worst ones. Take a break. Charles Barkley joins us next.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
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Speaker 2 (15:20):
Oh look who's back with us. He's the lame duck.
He would be like the Mike McCarthy of NBA Analyst
here in the final year, Charles Barkley joining us on
the program. You feel like a lame duck?

Speaker 14 (15:35):
Yes, hey, Dan, Yeah, if I'm Kenny Smith, do I
get a Mercedes?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
No, you don't. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, we feel like
the lame duck.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I mean wait, wait, what kind of cars do you have?
Do you have anything that would be like an exotic?

Speaker 14 (15:54):
No, dude, I got money for a reason. I'm not stupid. Dude,
you can't. You can't have money if you waste money
else stupid stuff. I got a I got a Kia.
My main car is a Kia, and I gotta afford expedition.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Uh so that's it.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, doesn't Shaq have a bunch of fancy cars?

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I got like five hundred million dollars?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, if you would stop gambling, you might have that
money that Shack has.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
There's no chance of that happened, dude. I like to gamble.
What's wrong with it?

Speaker 14 (16:33):
You know what? You know what's really about? You know
the gambling thing. You know, my mom was a maid
and my grandmother worked in a butcher factory and we
grew up on welfare in the projects. Nobody cared about
my money. Nobody ever said, hey, let's go take care
of that Barkley family.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Let's put some Let's do a gofund me for them.

Speaker 14 (16:56):
Now that I got money and I like to gamble,
everybody's like, man, he gambles too much. Let me just
say to this so people don't get the wrong idea. Dan,
if you don't kiss my ass, I'm on gamble. I
like to do it. I'm I'm in forum right now, Dad,
because my whole weekend is all about gambling on Saturday

(17:18):
and Sunday, the whole weekend.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Brother, Okay, I'm happy that you're happy gambling. I would
like for you to win a little more.

Speaker 9 (17:27):
So.

Speaker 14 (17:28):
Yeah, I would like the team to play better. That's
what the damn problem is. It's not my bad selection,
it's them. You know, it's them. It is them.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay, I'm gonna start with a serious topic here. What
is worse for the NBA A bigger problem load management
or too many three pointers?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Dan?

Speaker 14 (17:51):
That's a great question, because I think they're both problems.
It's just now as a three point shooting contest. But
what's gonna be the biggest problem was going forward when
we have guys making eighty to ninety one hundred million
dollars not playing back to back games.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
That's to me.

Speaker 14 (18:09):
I mean, listen, Uh, the three point thing bothers me
because of course, if they're going in, you're gonna win,
but you gotta have a plan. B.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
But when that new TV deal kicks in next year
and you.

Speaker 14 (18:22):
Got a guy making eighty five million dollars and he says, hey,
you know what, I'm not gonna play back to back games,
it's ridiculous that they fans are gonna pay as much
as the cost to go to games now and now
you're gonna have to go out and do start doing
streaming going forward, we can't have a guy making ninety

(18:42):
five million dollars saying I can't play basketball four days
a week. Hey, that's an fairness. Most teams play three
games a week. But let's say hypothetically you play four games.
You can't ask fans to pay that money for a
guy making ninety five million dollars won't play back to
back game. That I mean, if anybody think that's a
good idea, they're crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Okay, but how do you fix load management?

Speaker 14 (19:07):
You play basketball, man, We're the luckiest dudes in the world. See,
this is thing that bothers me about the entire seventy
six or thing like number one they got you should
you don't tell people and not gonna play back to
back game. That's just what the stupidity started. But also
then if you're tired or a little sower, which every
basketball player is during the season, Hey you know what, coach,

(19:30):
I'm gonna play twenty five minutes tonight. I'm not gonna
play forty two. That to me is my biggest problem
with load management. Just play twenty five to twenty seven minutes.
Like when you're a star, you're gonna play basically between
thirty five and forty five minutes most nights. But if
you go, if you gonna play back to back or

(19:51):
you want a load managers, just tell the coach. Hey, coach,
I'm gonna give you twenty five tonight. Maybe we can
push the twenty seven third. But because you know, Adam said,
but who's amazing he killed most of the back to
backs anyway. Yeah, so, uh, but I think the low
management you can't ask people out here, go out here

(20:13):
and get their hard earned money on like real jobs.
They say, I'm coming to see this great player play
and he's, like I said, he's making eighty to one
hundred million dollars. Well he sit it out that he
was tired. It's not sustainable.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
What if you just got paid for the number of
games you played?

Speaker 14 (20:34):
Dude, them dudess to be playing eighty five games. Hey, dude, Dan,
we're not. We don't have like a real job. We're
playing basketball.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
But do I have to incentivize these guys making this
much money that if you play this many games you
get like there's a bonus and you have to do
something here? I mean, I think we got a real
problem with too many threes. The game is not great.
And I just think, you know, when you've got guys
who they think nothing of sitting down, of sitting out.

Speaker 14 (21:11):
Yeah, and you know when you say that or I
say that, they go, we're the old get all my
long guys. And I don't care if they say that,
because man, we're playing basketball. We're not a nurse. I'm
pretty sure nurses don't want to go in sometime. Guys
who work in the steel mills, who work in construction.
I'm pretty sure they don't want to go in. But

(21:34):
you know, man, I've always told people the most important
things should be the game. And it's really getting to
the point where it's embarrassing that we actually have having
this conversation because if you go back and look at basketball,
the greatest players ever number one, they had to go
to college for three and four years, but they played

(21:55):
the whole games. They played in crappy shoes. They commercial,
you know, injuries. Now that you're back in six months
or a year and it's your career, we got the
best medical stuff. We got guys sleeping in hyper barrack chambers.
We got guys doing cold water plunges. This is from

(22:18):
a physical standpoint, this is probably the greatest time to
play sports. Can you imagine as a football player, And
I'm gonna be serious for a second here, This is
probably the greatest time to ever play football because number won,
the money you make. But also if you get a
sniff of a concussion, you gonna you're not gonna play.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
You know, you know, you go back and look at
our day.

Speaker 14 (22:43):
You got there putting that smelling stuff under your nose, Like,
get back out there.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Get back out there. Now. If you've got a concussion,
you're probably not gonna play.

Speaker 14 (22:52):
And that's great, But like it's this is the best
time ever to play sports. Number one financially from a
standpoint and a.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Medical standpoint, this is the greatest time ever.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well, the NBA is nowhere as physical as it was
back when you played, so you can factor that in
of you don't have back to back games, it's not
as physical. These guys should be in better shape. There's
the money that's attached to this, Like there's no real
Lebron shouldn't be the guy who says I want to
play every game this season. But he is saying that

(23:27):
he wants to play.

Speaker 14 (23:28):
But Lebron' he's amazing. But then you just laid it
out right there. You said these guys should want to
play basketball for the financial and all this stuff. That's
that's the part that hurts me as as an older player.
I'm like, man, the most money I ever made, and
I'm blessed. I'm blessed for five million dollars. Let me

(23:51):
tell you something. For seventy five eighty million dollars a year,
I get to the game early. I'm like, hey, like Hey,
I will, but you know, you know I was. We
were talking about Zion last year getting in shape. I said, yo, man,
for seventy eighty million dollars. You know what they'd be saying.
I'm worried about that. Charles Barkley, he's out here anemic.

(24:12):
You know he got eating at this order. He's too skinny.
I mean because, and I mean necessarily. I got in
shape for two million dollars. My first contract was four years,
two million dollars. I lost fifty pounds because I was
fat in college. Then I would be totally anorexic. For
seventy five eighty million dollars. I know that's a serious subject.

(24:35):
But for the kind of money these guys are making today,
God bless him, God bless him. I'm not a hater, dude,
But to go play basketball home for the money we're
making today, then you own worst case scenario. Think about
this worst case scenario. You would never play more than
four games in a week. Think about that. You we

(25:00):
don't fly commercial anymore. Like I say, you got the
best shoes, you got the best medical stuff. It's an embarrassment.
Do we have to beg these players? It's embarrassing as
an older player, do we have to beg these guys
to play basketball?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I mean necescerely.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Charles Barklay turn your sports inside the NBA analyst. Do
you have a statue?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yes, I got one at Auburn.

Speaker 14 (25:27):
I got one at the Philadelphia seventy six ers facility.
They put miniatures up, but yeah, I got one with
at Auburn.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
It's pretty. It's really an honor. You know what's really funny.

Speaker 14 (25:43):
When I met with those people the first time, it
was a really awful looking statue. Before they fit to
fit got the finished product. I said, man, what are
you doing? And he says, well, I got like four
or five pictures of you and I'm trying to merge
them together. I say, yo, man, stop it, pick one
and we're good. There's an honor for the statue. But yeah, man,

(26:05):
that Dwayne Wade.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
That's awful. Man.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I felt bad for Dwayne because he had to act
like he liked it.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
He did have to act like he liked it.

Speaker 14 (26:15):
But I think I saw some shilly were talking about
the looks on his kid's face looking at him.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
But they were like, but but were you between a
rock and a hard place? But he can't do anything.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't know where you guys stand. I didn't see
you guys talking about the Bronny lebron stuff. Like people
got sideways on the coverage of this and it's the
worst thing for the NBA and uh, you know, nepotism
and whatever it is. And I'll give you my take,
and whether you agree with it or not, we can discuss.

(26:53):
But I said, if it keeps Lebron engaged, if he
wants to continue to play, he wants to play at
a high level. He wants to play with his son,
who's going to be the twelfth man at best on
the bench, or probably go to the G League. You
go to Cleveland, you get to go back to his hometown.
You bring your son with you, great memories there, he
gets a hoop. Now he goes down to the G League.

(27:15):
He's the fifty fifth pick in the draft. Nobody ever
talks about the fifty fifth pick in the draft. So
with that being said, where do you stand with Bronnie
and lebron?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, you know, you got a lot of great points.

Speaker 14 (27:29):
I think the main thing is him getting to play
with his son is a cool thing for one thing,
But I think he needs to go to the G
League so he can get better as a basketball player.
He's not gonna get better sitting on the bench. It's
a great story to start the season having Griffith Jr.
And Senior there going back to Cleveland getting his first

(27:49):
NBA basket, But you know, he's not gonna get better
as a player sitting on the bench. He needs to
play basketball because you think about a damn you get
you got the factor in I'm one. I'm glad he's healthy,
but he hasn't played any basketball really in a year
or more. I mean, he hasn't played any basketball. He was,

(28:10):
you know, because of the hard thing. And I like,
I say, I'm so glad he's healthy, but like he
needs to play basketball because he's got to figure out
because he doesn't have a position.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
He's a tweener. But he's gonna have to learn.

Speaker 14 (28:24):
Like I said, the only way you get better at
playing any sport is playing that sport.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I mean, so I.

Speaker 14 (28:31):
Think it's a great story, it's great full Lebron, but
he needs to go to the G League and get
learn how to play get better as the basketball player.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
One of my pet peeves is the defensive player of
the Year award because to me, Victor winben Yama affected
more shots than anybody did last year. He can guard
the perimeter, he can guard inside at the same time.
And I know I'm not big on Rudy Gobert, but
the award bothers me because I don't know, like it

(29:03):
feels like Michael Jordan could have been Defensive Player of
the Year every year if he wanted to be, like,
he would lock somebody down, right.

Speaker 14 (29:11):
Yeah, well, let's since you're talking about pet Peas, I
got one. Okay, okay, these idiots on ESPN every year, why.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Do you keep watching? I keep telling you if.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
You don't want, I got to see what happened.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Byles isn't around anymore, so you don't have to worry
about him.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah. I kind of feel bad for the guy. Uh
I didn't like the guy, but I feel bad. I
feel bad because uh I do. I don't want bad
things to happen other people.

Speaker 14 (29:43):
But you know, it's funny you said it, because I'm
watching all these idiots and Foods and Jackass on ESPN
and it bothers me every year because they used this
analogy because it gets back to the NBA. They're like, well,
Lebron was the best player, Yes he was, but Deack
Rose was out of that year. Well, Carl Malone won MVV.

(30:03):
He was better than Michael Jordan that year. They have
these arguments every year about the MVP, and now they
got a really cool one coming up in the NFL,
which has always been my argument. Pat Mahomes is the
best quarterback in the world. But if you don't think
Jered Golf, Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry or.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
The MVP, Josh Allen.

Speaker 14 (30:30):
Josh Allen. If you don't think one of those, I
love Josh Allen. He's probably one of my favorite players.
If you don't think one of those four players at
the MVP, you don't know anything about sports. I get
so annoyed when these guys like, well, Lebron should have
won it, Like, no, don't. It goes to the guy

(30:51):
having the best season. It's not the guy who's the
best player. We all know Patrick is the man, but
Josh Lamar, Derrick Henry, j Golf, those four guys. And
let me tell you something, I'm glad I don't have
a vote because you talk about putting names in a
hat and just pulling one because any one of those

(31:12):
four guys.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Like I say, but it.

Speaker 14 (31:14):
Annoys me when these foods on each other networks talk about, well,
this guy, he's the best player. It's not who's the
best player, it's the guy who's having the best season.
And those four guys are having a better season than Patrick.
And he's the best quarterback. He might go down as
the best.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Ever, but for this year, those five four guys.

Speaker 14 (31:36):
And let me tell you something, I don't know who
I would pick between Derrick Henry and Lamar either that's
a tough one. But Jared golf Man, it's something I
don't understand why that guy gets no respect. He gets
zero respect. He led a team to the super Bowl.
They're like, you're not good enough. And that team brings
in Stafford and they win the Super Bowl and they

(31:56):
just crap on him even more. He just keeps it
head down in Detroit. Get him to the NFC Championship game.
They should have won that game. Now he's got him
with the probably the best team. I hate that agents
at Hutcheson kid. That hutch was one of my favorite player.
Shout out to Aiden Hutchinson man. That kid man, his motor.
It was ridiculous. I hate he broke his leg, but man,

(32:19):
Jared Golf, nobody ever get that kid any credit.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm proud of him for handling it.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Do you think that you had a better year than
Jordan when you won the MVP?

Speaker 14 (32:28):
Yes, hell, yes, we had the best record. We had
the best record in the NBA that year. Yes, uh uh.
And was he a better player than me? Yes he was,
But that year the Phoenix Suns had the best record
in the NBA. Uh And in the no. And so
like I say, listen Derrick Rose. Shout out to Derrick Rose,

(32:50):
great career man, great dude. But the year he won MVP,
the Chicago Bulls what they I mean, they had the
home court against the Cavaliers, and people forget, but it's
the guy having the best season is not the best player.
And them clowns and foods on other network. When I
said foods and clowns, I mean is being in Fox.
They're like, well, to go to the best player. I'm like, well, okay,

(33:13):
that's that's your opinion. That don't make you right.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I can tell you this now. I didn't vote for
you for MVP that year.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Did you vote me second?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I can live with that.

Speaker 14 (33:28):
See that, you know I should have won the MVP
in eighty eight Magic Johnson, we had the closest vote
in the history of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
So I had a great year in Philly.

Speaker 14 (33:39):
I think that's one of the years I was like
twenty eight points and I led to the NBA rebounding
and I knew I had a great year, and I
knew it was gonna come down to the wire. But
what really bothered me, and that's why we should have
some of these foods accountable, because I got I think
I beat him in first place votes and then I

(33:59):
didn't get it any other votes, and I was like, well,
wait a minute, how can I get I mean, you
got to put me first or sucker worst case scenario third,
And at the time, it was the closest vote in
NBA history, And I was so mad.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I says, hey, I don't mind losing the word.

Speaker 14 (34:20):
But y'all just like like I say, I'm a least
suckered worst case scenario third.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
And I was really pissed.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Sounds like you still really pissed, Dan.

Speaker 14 (34:32):
Our job on television is to be fair and honest.
One reason I had fans might disagree with me, but
no fan has ever said to me, Hey, you know what,
you took personal shots at a guy, or you have
a person of indebted against a guyan. No player, every

(34:52):
player who calls me when I criticized him, I said, Yo,
let me explain why I said that, because players and
agents call me all the time. And I'll be honest
with him, dude, But you know what I hate about
the players and the agents, Dan, They never called me
when I said something good about that player.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
It pisses me off. It really pisses me off.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
It's great to talk to you. I'm glad you're in
mid season form, and hey.

Speaker 14 (35:15):
Can I put you Hey, when I'm looking for another job,
can I put you on my LinkedIn?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I thing, yes, as a rest of reference?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yes, okay, yes, I'll help you.

Speaker 14 (35:26):
I'm trying to get my famous friends to all in
case after using as a LinkedIn reference.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
So you haven't heard from them, so that's why you're
asking me. All right, I'm going to be there for you.
I'll help you with your resume. He's the great Charles Barkley.
Thank you, Charles. We'll be back after this.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show. Weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (35:52):
We've been piling on Paul most of the morning, Todd,
that is true. Yeah, taking it like a champ.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Here.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
We got smoked rib eyes, black eyed peas, making a
little fun with some music here.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
We should have seen this coming.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Oh we blindsided.

Speaker 14 (36:13):
You.

Speaker 10 (36:14):
See what they're doing, Tyler. We're laying at extra thick
so that then we could just see he could take
it and you can't.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
It's really all about you. This is really all about I'll.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Tell you I would not have handled it half as
well as a half because I'm half.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
My face face. So Todd has nine more minutes before
he has to leave, well.

Speaker 12 (36:33):
Like four and a half minutes based on when we.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Rid well, I didn't know if you were going to
leave right at the top of the hour. Sliding into
the weekend brought to you by King Jawaiian. They want
you to get together with family and friends, enjoy the weekend,
making every Sunday a slider Sunday. Ohio State, Penn State.
Does Penn State win this? They're favored by three. This

(37:00):
is this is James Franklin. You gotta win this. Think
you you have a history of not winning the big game.
Here you go, biggest game of the week, Oregon at Michigan.
More hot seedar game, Ryan Day against James Franklin. Is
that is that? Is that a hot seat battle? What

(37:20):
is Ryan Day lost like nine games in his entire
career at Ohio State. He's got some preposterous one loss record.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, PAULI, Yeah, but Ryan Day picks the wrong ones
to lose. You know what I'm saying. They feel like
worst losses Penn State. If they win, they may get
a bye in the playoffs, and they'll still get in
the plass with Ohio State with the money they spent.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
But Oregon's number one in the Big ten and they're
at Michigan this one. I don't know if Michigan can score.
Dylan Gabriel's look great. I mean, this is this is
where Michigan's got to act like some kind of semblance
of last year's team. I don't you know, sneaky great team.

(38:02):
Game is a pit eighteenth SMU twenty third. How about
the race for the ACC title? More than just Miami
and Clemson. You got pitt in SMU NFL Lions, Packers,
and does Jordan love play NBA Warriors Rockets? My Rockets
playing pretty well, so are the Warriors. That's sliding into

(38:24):
the weekend. Brought to you my slider Sunday. Get together
with family and friends and enjoy a slider Sunday. Time
to play in or out? So it's either in or
out right. We didn't have it on Wednesday because I
was out out. That's right, dand early for you.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
So just yell out when you got it, all right,
say in if you're in, and if you're out to
recapt in.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
You're out right.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
The Jets are going to be a factor the second
half of the season.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Todd in, Seaton out, Marvin out, I'm going to say, and.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Says in when he's about to be out.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Garrett Wilson's catch is the best I've ever seen physically
as opposed to mentally, well importance, just the actual.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Catch, Okay, so the the physicality of pulling that on. Okay, Todd,
are you in or out? Out? Seaton out out? Marvin
can't do that. Oh that's not this. I'm out the.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Houston Texans bandwagon. I'm off you in or out on being.

Speaker 10 (39:36):
Off, Todd, I'm in on being off, okay, seton. I
think I started the year off. I'm going to remain off.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
So you're on the bandwagon. No, you're in on wit
I mean, I'm so if you're in, you're in on
being off the band. I'm in. I'm in on being off. Okay.

Speaker 10 (40:00):
Yes, I'm still I'm still off the band bandwagon.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
So I'm in.

Speaker 11 (40:03):
You're in even as simple, I'm in in out, I'm
in on being out.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
The Yankees fifth and in collapse in Game five is
the worst collapse in baseball history, Tod.

Speaker 10 (40:24):
I'm way out on that. I've seen them collapse another time.
There was infinite mar Oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, it's out. It's silly to even consider that. I
don't know what we accomplished there, but we were in.
But now we're out of time. See you, Todd,
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