September 20, 2023 • 45 mins
Dan and the Danettes address the report about a Toronto Blue Jays starting pitcher who apparently gets 12+ hours of sleep a night. And Dan checks in with MLB insider Jeff Passan for the latest details on Los Angeles Angels superstar Shohei Ohtani's recent surgery.
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Come on in stay a while. How much leverage does
show Heyo Tani have after undergoing a procedure. It reinforces
the healthy ligament in place. And the doctor is the
team doctor for the Dodgers, which I found interesting. He
(00:45):
just did Aaron Rodgers achilles and the doctor just did
show Heyo Tani that it wasn't Tommy John surgery. It
wasn't reconstructed that this is a sort of a Now,
this is the same doctor who did Tommy John surgery
on show Hey Otani back in twenty eighteen. But I'm
(01:06):
wondering if we get to the point where this is
called reinforcing the healthy ligament in place, could you see
a preemptive strike by pitchers who then go in at
a younger age and say, can we reinforce the ligament
before I blow out the ligament? So you do something
that's preventative the UCL and it wasn't reconstructed via Tommy
(01:33):
John surgery. It was reinforced. And you're also seeing something
that's different or unique with Aaron Rodgers with his achilles
and trying to get him back. Cam Akers the running
back with the Rams. He got back in action after
six months, and Aaron Rodgers is talking about trying to
come back if the Jets make the playoffs eight seven
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seven three DP show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com,
twitter handle at DP show pull. Question for two is
going to be one seed O Connor.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, this is kind of an interesting story that PAULI
brought to our attention. But how many hours of sleep
do you get a night?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay? Now, there's a Toronto Blue Jays pitcher who I
think normally gets eleven, twelve or thirteen hours of sleep.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yes, he's a Blue Jay starter. His name's you say, Kakuchi.
He's pretty good. He's ten and six, having a good season,
and he had some cramps and had to lead the
game the other day. And I guess the word got
to the reporter Katelyin McGrath of The Athletic that he
said it might be caused because he only got only
got eleven hours of sleep the night before and they
found up how many do you usually get? He said,
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usually I get thirteen to fourteen hours sleep. Kakuchi went
on to say, yes, he goes to bed usually at
eleven pm and at the night game. He wakes up
the next day at one pm, So it's straight through
thirteen to fourteen hours sleep on a normal night, not
just pitching nights. Wow, Okay, shocking right. Yeah, he's reads
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of a young man. He's like twenty nine years old.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Like cats don't even get this kind of sleep or dogs.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I looked up sleep Journal, Medicine, sleep Journal, and they
say thirteen hours sleep to fourteen fifteen is what someone
who's under two years old gets and they're supposed to
get and then it gets fewer hours as you get old.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, but can you have too much sleep? I don't
know if the American Medical Association would say if you
get this amount of sleep, it's actually a negative, yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It seems to me you'd be like groggy a lot
if you're sleeping that much and you get up, it
takes some time to come to and everything like that.
To spend over half your life. If he averages twelve
or more hours like sleeping instead of functioning and being
alive with the world, that just seems bizarre.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
According to a couple different sites, the Sleep Foundation, WebMD,
oversleeping can be bad for your health. It could be
a sign of depression, immune system issues. It could lead
to diseases for like because you're not processing sugar the
right way, diabetes, mental health, heart issues because your heart
is not up and ready to go, so it could
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lower your heart function. But this guy is a professional
athlete who's pitching.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, you go to bed at eleven, you wake up
at one am. I in college. Again, how much sleep
do you get at nighttime?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I would say somewhere in the as far as good sleep,
four to five.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Hours probably sleep APP sleep APP.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I try to go to bed around eleven, but it
takes a while to fall asleep. But if I end
up the actual sleep time, I can't imagine it's more
than forty five hours.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
All right, seaton U, I'm like a five six hour night,
but I usually I also usually try to take a
nap somewhere during the day, so I try to make
up for it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But then I've been told that there's a certain amount
of time that's great for a nap, and then after
that you get kind of then it becomes a negative.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's like it's like under thirty minutes or over ninety
something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, Marvin, what about you? I'm also a sixer sixer?
What about you, Paulie?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I get seven hours of sleep at night, almost right
on the nose, and I usually get about a twenty
five minute afternoon nap. I'm on a site now that
tells how much napping you should do. They said fifteen
minutes is great for a refresher. It's almost like having
a quick cup of coffee. Anything more than forty five minutes,
you're tricking your body into thinking it's going to sleep
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for the night, and it starts to shut down and
it makes it harder to get up and rejuvenate after
a forty five.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Minute Yeah, I have mine down to around thirty eight minutes,
you know, nap in the afternoon around thirty eight thirty
seven minutes for some reaon I don't set an alarm.
I just wake up, and you know, it takes me
a while. I'm groggy, and then I probably get eight
hours at night try to Yeah, see.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
I don't sleep. Schedule is extremely unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
But there are times where I'll get the like shake
at about like six o'clock, like, do you just want
to sleep for the rest of the night or are
you getting up for dinner? Oh like six o'clock PM.
I'll lay down at like two or something. They'll be like,
I'm just gonna do like fifteen minutes and then they'll
be like, so, are you gonna get up for dinner?
(06:23):
Or that hasn't happened in a while, but it's definitely
happened more than once.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
All Right, what's pole question for hour two going to be?
Speaker 6 (06:29):
See, we're going with how much sleep do you can get? Under?
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Eight?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Or eight plus?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
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here start out first hour Mike or second hour Mike
in Lake Tahoe. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Very good morning?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Then how you doing good sir?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
All right?
Speaker 8 (07:30):
I wanted to say I owe seating a pipe of
the face. I will be submitting that this weekend via
the Padres not winning the division, and I kind of
think he had something to do with that. No hitter
getting broke up in the ninth end and I'm just saying,
seating them Padres fans still watching him then.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No seating somehow. I don't know what you did to
San Diego or why you did it to San Diego,
but you did something. You know what.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's a classic problem with being on this show. I
go for the joke almost every time consequences be day end.
So yeah, I kind of I do. I have some
love for San Diego, though, but I like making people
laugh more.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Saturday night, the Ohio State Buckeyes headed to South Bend
taking on the Fighting Irish and Notre Dame. That'll be
in primetime and that'll be on NBC. I don't know
what the line is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
On this because my guess the line.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Okay, guess the line.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Number six Ohio State at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
What's Notre Dame's ranking number nine? Number nine?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Both undefeated?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Oh boy, this feels like this would be Ohio State
favored slightly.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You're onto something, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm going to say Ohio State favored by two.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm giving that to you. There are a favored by three.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
By the way, USC is favored by thirty four and
a half at Arizona State.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, so they need some challenging. Well, they could be
looking ahead to the Colorado matchup there, and then you
have what is the Colorado Oregon line? Is that I
still have four?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I still have it. I still have it at twenty
two oh twenty. Check some other places.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, I'm sure people will bet that up. They're betting.
They're betting Colorado to win outright.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
This is a lane big weekend for Lane Kiffin at Bama.
A wounded animal.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Possibly Chuck in North Carolina. Good morning, Chuck. What's on
your mind today?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Good morning DP, Good morning Dan Nuts.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
You know, just with the hype train of Colorado and
before we get to the next two big games Oregon
and USC next weekend, I'm wondering your thoughts on I
was looking at rankings for the top one hundred and
thirty three programs before the season. Colorado was ranked, according
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to this one site, eighty first, eighty first in the country.
They win one game against TCU, which was the ranked
number nineteen at the time, getting to the top twenty.
If they go there are seven teams from the PAC
twelve in the top twenty five right now, including Colorado.
So just as inside maybe the best conference in football
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while they're disbanding on that aside, If Colorado goes, let's
say there's six top twenty teams remaining on their schedule
for the next nine games. If they go five, and
if they go five and two against the seven top
twenty five teams that they're going to play this season,
and I know that can change you when it's all
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said and done. The SEC there's only six teams in
the top twenty five, So right now, no other conference
can play more than Colorado having the potential to play
seven top twenty five teams. If Dion goes let's say,
five and two against those seven top twenty five programs,
including TCU. They're not ranked now, but they were at
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the time.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, okay, I get what you're saying. Land the plane
longer than the Colorado State and the plane. Will they
be in the playoffs? Should they be in the playoffs? Well,
if you had twelve teams, but we got a long
way to go. I just I want to caution everybody
Colorado is ahead of schedule. I don't know if they're
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a good team. I don't think they're a great team.
I think they have a great story. But how about
in two weeks we kind of reset on this because
everybody is rooting for this, all involved, everybody wants to
talk to Dion. This is great. Yes, it's the story
of college football. But where are we going to be
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in three weeks? Where will we be in a month
with this story? And maybe maybe they beat Oregon or
they beat USC, or they do both, or they get
blown out by both, and then what happens after that?
What's the follow up? Is college game Day going to
go to Boulder anymore? Is Fox's big noon kickoff going
to go to Boulder anymore? No, they'll probably start to
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go to places where you have the teams that are
going to be there at the end. But look, I
enjoy this. I just want to caution everybody because it
feels like we're willing this to happen. It's wishful reporting,
wishful fandom with this. I just I want to sprinkle
in a little bit of reality. That's all, Yes, Todd
for those.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Who believe in Colorado. If, for lack of a better word,
what could happen this weekend against Oregon where someone would
not believe, like to get totally blown out? Like what
would be a magic number where someone who's all in
on Colorado is now not anymore losing by thirty forty.
I just wonder what that would be that outcome that
would make someone get off the Buffalo's train.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Well, what do you think I think if they.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Get blown out? I think a lot of people would
be like, oh, now that they played a really tough
team except FORDCU obviously you know, went to the national team.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yes, Paul, they're going to get a hall pass this
weekend if it's not a great game because the Travis
Hunter being out and it was a cheap shot, you know,
so they get a bit of a hall pass that
their best all round player is out and Oregon, you
know at Oregon everything there. So how much they spent
on the last game. Well, I'm really fascinated by if
and when Colorado gets to six wins the Bowl battle
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to get them. Oh yeah, because I don't know if
how the automated bulls work. It's not that slotted. But
if you're the Bahama Bull or the Cheese At Bowl
or the Pop Tart Bowl, you break the bank and say, look,
we want Colorado over all, you know, over anything like
would you want Ole miss at ten wins or Colorado
at seven?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah? But is there a negotiation that goes on with
these bowl games that it could be?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I would think it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I thought that you're slotted in who you pick.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Sometimes, Yes, a lot of a lot of the bulls
have slots. If you're the third ranked team in the
Pac twelve, you go blank.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Or you get to pick the teams that you want.
To a point, like, I think it's like, okay, here
the final four National Title game, those sites, those Bull games,
and then after that, what is that next bowl? Is
that the Citrus Bowl, Fiesta Bowl? They get to pick
the matchup that they want.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Some yeah, mostly they do. Sometimes they have like tradition
of taking the second best team in the PAC twelve.
But Colorado's gonna be scalding hot for the Bull season.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And I remember when this topic came up a couple
of weeks ago, and we were talking about could the
PAC twelve maintain the name the PAC twelve therefore still
have that automatic berth into a playoff and if you
could sue for that, But you only have a couple
of teams that are going to be left under that
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umbrella with the PAC twelve. But if you merge with
the Mountain West, don't you don't want to be the
Mountain West. You want to be the PAC twelve. And
I think that's going to be interesting with Washington State
and Oregon State. Can you keep the name and the
likeness and the automatic berth just you want the Mountain
West to join the PAC twelve, not the other way
(14:49):
around uh, Nick and Indiana. Hi, Nick, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Hey, good morning Dad.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You got good.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Our first time six four, a shrinking two sixty and
solidly in the seven to eight hours of sleep club.
Also consider myself very fortunate that I started listening to
the show despite not being bedridden.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I want to talk today about Crappensburg State hype songs.
I've been thinking about this a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
By the way, we sold three hundred and fifty shirts
yesterday Crappensburg State, our fictitious university that we made up.
And what was the dukes?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The Dukes of crap I believe they're going to be
the Crappensburg State Dukes.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Okay, I believe that's it, lovely man.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, what do you have to add to that? Nick?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, I got a for you to get everybody hyped up,
depending on the age. So I'll start off at drop
it like a hot performed by poop Dog of course, Okay,
let it go to get the youths involved frozen, and
then making a mess by skid Row.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh wow, that's a deep cut. Okay, you're a full bloop.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Thank you, Nick.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
What's a good three hundred and fifty people ordered Crappensburg
State t shirts yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
People are pumped about it, and rightfully so yeah, rightfully yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I think you know what, I think we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think we're going to make those you know, like
those windows stickers that you put on for like parents and.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
They have their kids college. I think we're gonna make
Crappensburg State.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Why not? Yeah, my son goes to crap and.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Mind my child made the Dean's list at Crag State.
I think we're gonna do like a line of bumper
stickers and those windows stickers.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
My son made the Dean's list at Crappensburg State. Exactly,
no bleep. Yeah, It's like that movie, was it? Is it?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Jonahill where they go to a fake college. Is it accepted?
They South Harmon Institute of Technology. They just make up
a fake school.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Good flick Crappensburg State available at Danpatrick dot com. Take
a break, We'll talk to Jeff Passon of The Mothership
about the procedure show Heyo Tani underwent and how much
leverage does he have now here in the off season.
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Jeff passon the Mothership ESPN senior baseball insider joints Us
on the program, explain to me the procedure not surgery.
That show heo Tony had.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
It was a.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Surgery and they tried to talk around it, essentially to
not use the words Tommy John.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
What it was.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
Reading between the lines here was a revision, reconstruction with
an internal brace. What that means is Tommy John surgery
has evolved through the years, right it used to be.
Then the original procedure, Doctor Frank Joe went into Tommy
John's elbow and drilled holes and essentially looped a new
(19:47):
ucl through those holes using a tendon that was taken
from his wrist. From what Neil Latrosh, the doctor who
did the surgery said in the statement, he talked about
it being a repair and a reinforcement, which suggests that
they didn't go in with the brand new tendon and
loop it through that they reinforced the old one that
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was there and added an internal brace, which is something
that doctor Keith meister A noted Tommy John expert has
been doing the last few years and that Neil Latrosha
has picked up on as well, and that has found
a ton of success in keeping guys healthy. Essentially, though, yes,
this was Tommy John surgery and Shojo. Tommy's not going
(20:31):
to pitch next year, and the chances of him coming
back and pitching in the future, frankly are pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Okay, what's to do for his leverage here in the
off season?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Not a whole lot because he's still hurt, right, Like,
that's the problem with this. I was so genuinely wanting
to see him go into this winter healthy just to
see how high his contract was going to go. I
think if he was fully healthy going in, it was
going to be six hundred and fifty million dollars. So
(21:03):
I think that this ucl tear, that this procedure is
going to cost him one hundred and fifty million probably,
But I really don't foresee many scenarios where it gets
too far under five hundred, Like maybe maybe teams are hesitant.
But let's look at it this way, Dan, you have
a baseline in place already with Aaron Judge, to whom
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Sho Hao Tani is a very comparable bat right, you
have nine years and three hundred and sixty million dollars.
That is a recent comparable. You also have the fact
that shoe Hayo Tani is the biggest star in the
sport and international superstar that your franchise value just by
having him around is going to jump. You're going to
sell tickets, you're going to sell merchandise, you're going to
(21:48):
sell concessions, you're going to sell everything. And then, oh,
by the way, you've got the pitching element too. And
while you may not necessarily want to go out and
guarantee that type of money. Jameson is a two time
Tommy John guy who went out and got sixty eight
million dollars from the Cubs this past offseason, and Show
Heyo Tani is a lot better than Jameson Tai On
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has ever been before. So I think the argument in
his favor to go and get that five hundred million
really is valid. It's just a question of which organization
and specifically which owner is going to be willing to
take that lead, because all the other ones then are
going to want to say, you know what, yeah, we'll
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look at you being a pitcher, but you're going to
have to earn that this is going to be incentive based,
and frankly, I don't think he's going to want it
to be, and I don't think he should have it
need to be.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Should I read into the fact that it was the
Dodgers surgeon who did the surgery on Show Heyo Tony No.
Speaker 9 (22:48):
Neil Latrosh is just excellent at his job.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
He's the guy.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Him and Meister are the guys you go to, and
you know, Jeff Dugas and Birmingham like the David Altchek
like there are certain but when you are on the
West coast and you live in La you go to
neil E La trash, simple as that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
When do negotiations start for show Hao Tony.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
The day after the World Series ends? And you know what,
I'm sure there's back channeling going on right now that
that probably is against rules and regulations. But even with
this surgery, Dan, He's still going to be the you know,
the the hottest free agent that we've seen since Alex
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Rodriguez the first time when he signed with Texas. Like,
I can't think of another player who's gone out there
and reach free agency. I mean Bryce Harper, but that
that free agency sort of collapsed on itself, and that
that to me, is going to be the defining question here.
Are teams going to use the UCL issue as an
(23:57):
excuse to avoid going after a transcendent player or are
they not going to get in their own way and
say this is a once in a lifetime literally Dan,
a once in a lifetime guy, and we have the
opportunity to get him purely for money. We don't have
to give up players, we don't have to give up prospects.
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All this is going to take is money, and I
think the smart owners out there will approach it that way,
and we're going to see a pretty interesting free agency
on account of that.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
All right, give me the teams one through three that
you think are going to be tough to be they're
going to be in for the sweep stakes. Here, Can I.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Go more than that? Because I don't. I haven't like
I don't think there's an established favorite at this point.
I think coming into this season, the expectation was Dodgers
or bus I don't think that's the case anymore. Like
around the industry, the Dodgers certainly have interests in Otani
and they're certainly going to be there, and if they
ended up with him in their uniform next year wouldn't
(25:00):
surprise me. But the Dodgers are going to be there.
I think the Boston Red Sox are going to be there.
I think the Chicago Cubs are going to be there.
I think the Texas Rangers are going to be there.
At San Francisco Giants, you know, a team like Seattle
is really interesting to me. What is Seattle's appetite going
to be to go for the years rather than that
(25:21):
short term, high dollar contract. And I don't know if
it's going to play out this way necessarily him. But
it would not surprise me at all if a couple
teams early on jump in with offers for like four
years at two hundred and forty million dollars, you know,
just saying, hey, we're not going to go long term
(25:42):
with you, but we will give you, you know, fifty
percent more than any player has ever made. We will
make you a sixty million dollar a year player. And
at that point is Otani going to be intrigued by
that or is that simply going to embold in him
to take that sixty million dollar a year number and
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try and get it for eight or nine or ten
years as opposed to the four or five that some
teams might want to might want to offer.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The Angels' odds did they move it all increase, decrease
with the injury that he had.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
I guess maybe increased slightly, because there's a chance that
the market just collapses, right, There's a chance that teams
look at this and say, you know, we thought he
was a sixty million dollar year player, but now there's
just too much uncertainty, and the Angels could swoop in.
(26:44):
But I gotta be honest, I'm not sure that the
Angels are willing to go out there and spend the
money to resign him. I don't know. I don't know
how heavy the interest is going to be there.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Could they have traded him almost two months ago? I
know that we said that they should have.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Yes, of course they should have. I mean it was
I wrote this in my column on ESPN dot com yesterday.
It was giving out awards, and the biggest blunder goes
to the Los Angeles Angels for not doing what was
patently obvious to everybody not named Artie Moreno. And when
you have an impetuous owner who makes decisions flying by
(27:25):
the seat of his pants, and suddenly, like five days
before the trade deadline, when you have good offers lined
up for a guy who in all likelihood is going
to leave, but if you hold on to him, all
you're going to get out of it is like the
seventieth pick in the draft is compensation, and you say,
(27:47):
you know what, we're fighting for a wild card spot
and that sounds like a damn good idea. I mean,
it's malpracticed, Dan it is.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And then I mean.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Of course they're going to double down on it by
going out and getting Lucas Gilio and Ronaldo Lopez that day,
and then a month later they give those guys away
for free. I mean, it's just organizational incompetence that I
frankly don't blame the baseball operations people for because they're
just doing what their owner asks. It's just extremely poor ownership,
(28:23):
simple as that.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Always great to talk to you, Jeff, Thank you for
joining us.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Pleasure is always mind dad.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Thanks buddy, Jeff Passon Mothership ESPN senior Baseball insider. Get
a couple of phone calls here. You know, we brought
it up quite a few times ad nauseum and because
I could see this unfolding you he was not going
to stay. Now we didn't know he was going to
get hurt. But even then you could have traded him. Now,
(28:49):
maybe the agent says, go ahead and trade him. He's
not signing with whoever you're going to trade him to,
So what's your return going to be? And that might
come out eventually that maybe they did explore a trade
and the owner or you know, the owner tried to
because all I would want to know is what's the
number and do you want to stay? And if you
(29:12):
can't give me an answer to both or at least
one of those. Then I'm gonna trade you. I have
to do that as a businessman, and this is a
business decision. And we talked about that quite a few times,
that the Angels were going to walk away with nothing
out of this. A couple of phone calls in here,
(29:32):
Uh Keith in New Orleans. Hi Keith, good morning. What's
on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Hey? Dan? And Dan?
Speaker 10 (29:38):
I appreciate you taking my call?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Are you Ben? Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Spectacular? That's good?
Speaker 10 (29:43):
First time call A long time listener.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (29:46):
Five eleven in the morning, five ten of a day
goes on two forty Okay, I got two things Dion
did Dion open up Pandora's box. And what I mean
by that is if another coach, new coach, come into
another college with less fanfare, less hoopla and do the
same thing Dion did, will that be accepted? What I
(30:07):
mean by that is coming in getting rid of forty
five fifty players bringing in other players. Did he open
up something that's going to be uncontrollable or would it
be a double standard?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well, the portal did that. And what Dion was saying is, look,
the coaching staff and the players are responsible for one win.
Last season. Well, why do I want to have that
coaching staff or anybody on that staff or those players
if they only won one game. I'm going to bring
in my players, my coaches and do it my way. Well,
(30:39):
you know, nil and the transfer portal allowed him to
do it, because you know in the older days that
you wouldn't transfer, but you had to sit out a year.
Then then you can't do that reclamation project, no mass transfers.
Dion was able to do it. Will other coaches do this,
maybe not to this degree, but yeah, of course, I
(31:02):
mean coaches do this. They're just no, there's not any
attention attached to it the way it was with Dion,
and Dion putting it on social media that he's telling
these kids to their faces in a large conference room, basically,
pack your bags. I don't need you anymore.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Right, That's what he did, just the way he did it.
The other question is Lane Kiffen is the auditioned for
the job replacing when Nick Saban retires. As wee cand.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Maybe maybe you know, if you're Alabama boosters, you know
you want to see keep an eye on Lane kiffinn
offensive genius there. And you know Dabbos Sweeney. Maybe a
little bit of the luster is lost there with what's
happened at Clemson. But yeah, I think you could look
(31:50):
at Lane Kiffen. Would that be somebody that you want
to hit your wagon to. I think we're coming up
on the anniversary of him being fired by USC, been
ten years, Does that sound right, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Tarmac Day, Yes, checking, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
How humbling is that? You get you you land, and
you come back from a loss, you land, and then
all of a sudden it's like, yeah, uh Lane, you're
gonna have to get your own ride home. You get
kicked to the curb at the tarmac, like you don't
even get They didn't have uber back then.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Like what do you do?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You got to call your wife and go, uh hunt,
can you come and pick me up?
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
What's wrong?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Uh well I'm not the coach anymore at USC? Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, next week will be the ten year anniversary. They
call it the FBO firing because he was in the
little offices there the private jets. Oh god, big loss
to Arizona State cost him his job, yeah, and others.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, and USC plays Arizona State.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, so Lane Kiffin. According to the La Times, He
was called off the team bus at three am as
they were preparing to head back to campus on the
group of buses and his small room inside the terminal.
Pat hay the ad was sitting there and told him
he was done. I don't know how he got home.
I think we asked him how he got home from
the airport. I think someone at some Stafford game a ride.
(33:14):
Oh my god checking.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You imagine you're on the bus getting ready to go,
coach head count and all of a sudden, Pat Hayden
shows up and says, uh, lane can yeah, yeah, yeh man,
that's tough loss. Yeah, I really was. You know, we're
gonna get him going. We're gonna get yeah about that.
You're not going to be on the bus ride. I
(33:37):
have to I'm going to fire you. Has a coach
been fired in a more unceremonious fashion than that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Wasn't there one that was on TV?
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I don't know if it was HERM Edwards? Was Herr
Edwards at Arizona State told in the end zone, I
think walking off the field, I'm the athletic director. I
thought that cameras eight on the game. Yeah, it's called
network and they showed her Edwards.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Okay, would you rather get fired like that walking off
the field with the athletic director or you have to
get off the team bus in front of your team
and you're brought in and fired. Yes, yes, I'll take
it on the field.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
It gives me a little ecture time to figure out
how I'm getting home in an uber situation. And I
got to buy an airline ticket.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
And grab my gear, all the all the free swag
before to leave the locker room.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, there's just something about like, you know, what is
so bad, like just please leave now. We can't even wait.
That's just brutal. On the field, that is just brutal.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah, on the field, on the tarmac, on the.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
How about a nice uh you know, Saturday afternoon loss.
How about a nice Monday morning firing. That's that's the
timeline for me.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
More.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Phone call, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, it was HERM Edwards. The ad was talking to
him as he was leaving.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
There, and you could see he's told something where Herm's
surprised and if you have it on camera, it's like
HERM come over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
how HERM is he's always fired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're
going to fire you.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Okay, all right, now let me get off the field here,
all right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming
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Speaker 1 (37:06):
Quite a weekend for college football. I know a lot
of people have focused on Colorado against Oregon, but I
can't remember a weekend where you had this many matchups
with the ranked team. So number three, Florida State at
number twenty three, Clemson number nineteen, Colorado at number eleven,
(37:27):
Oregon number twenty five, Ucla at number ten, Utah number sixteen,
Mississippi at number twelve, Alabama number fifteen, Oregon State at
number twenty four, Washington State number four, Ohio State at
number nine, Notre Dame number twenty two, Iowa at number seven,
Penn State. All of that coming up this weekend. That's
(37:51):
good stuff here. And Colorado in Oregon is a three
eastern start, just to let you know, plan accordingly. Yeah,
because that one is one of those where I thought
it would be in the evening totally. Yeah, three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You know, Washington, the Huskies are getting no national love. Yeah,
they got they got you know, they got a lot
of ranked teams later in the season. They could they
want to, you know, crash a party.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Well, not everybody's gonna stay ranked, obviously, because you're gonna
have losses in the Pac twelve. But uh, you know
you got Colorado and Oregon. Uh, you're gonna have Ucla, Utah,
Oregon State, Washington State, they're going to you know, somebody's
gonna get knocked off there. Then you're gonna have teams
drop out of the top twenty five. Yes, Paul, this is.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Why Notre Dame should stay independent that they can play
in Ohio State in September, you know, because if they're
in the Big ten, I know they'll play Ohio State anyway.
But then they're gonna, you know, do the old thing
where they schedule some cupcakes.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah. I like that Ohio State and Notre Dame. You
can see that in primetime coming up on Saturday night.
I saw where, uh, Tiger Woods justin Timberlake are opening
up a sports bar in New York and it's an
entire city block. But I don't know is it a
bar restaurant? I know it's got golf simulators in there, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
It's got multiple rooms. Can you guys guess what the
name is?
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Gonna be?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Tiger Woods and justin Timberlake t squared, Oh okay, twenty
two thousand square feet, four different golf simulators, lots and
lots of TVs, and they're breaking it up into like
there's a bowling area. There's a lounge which has TVs,
but there's more bar and nice place. There's a pure
sports area that just surrounded with TVs.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
That's a lot of room there. Remember when ESPN had
ESPN the Zone, ESPN Zone Times Square, that was a
big building and it doesn't exist anymore. The building does,
but ESPN Zone does not.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yes, I always thought the danger of having a big
corporate sports bar is closing time, because what if you
were watching that Colorado Colorado State game at that sports
bar and you're sitting there and it's one o'clock closing time,
but you can stay up until two. Manager just doesn't
want it till two, and they say, okay, guys, last call.
I remember going to the ESPN Zone in New York
(40:10):
City and we'd try to stay late for a game
or something like we're closing at the Tuesday it's twelve
and you're like, oh, all right, I guess we're leaving.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Uh could you could you say last call at one?
But we're going to stay open until the game ends.
That maybe if I was the manager, that's what I
would do.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I'm looking at the decor. There's lots of like tiger Woods,
golf bags so forth.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, the idea that it's an entire city block is insane.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Yeah, city city blocks are are are massive.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
They have a bar that.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Big, I know is incredible.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Just if you said Tiger and Justin Timberlake were going
to be there, I still wouldn't want to go. If
I knew they're going to be there, Well, okay, I
might be able to see them and then that's it.
But you're you're asking that's a lot of people. I'm
guessing this has to be close to Times Square. You
want to get the tourists that come in because I
(41:12):
don't know if locals. Locals love to have their own
little bar. I don't know if you want to go
to this. This is this is an event, Yes, Poem.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I have it located at forty second Street in Bryant Park,
which is about four blocks west of Grand Center.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Nice area.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yes, yes, mar this is quite the rollout for the
insinct Super Bowl announcement.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh you think that's attached to this? Look Justin got
with in Sync at the VMA. Something's going on with
in Sync, right, Something's going on. They're trying to be
koy and it feels like they're ready to announce something.
By the way, Colorado USC next week. What time do
you think it starts? I think this is this has
(41:54):
already been announced at Colorado. What time?
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Seven thirty pm Eastern Marvin.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
I'm with PAULI seven thirty Todd nine.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Eastern, nine eastern Seaton.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Can they change the time of the game or is
this set right now? Like it has to be at
the time?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I think because depending on what happens with Colorado Oregon,
I think that the USC time is hinging on.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
That m.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I have nine a m. Pacific time.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
You're going with a noon kickoff on noon noon.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
USC Colorado big noon kickoff. I'm guessing nine am advantage Colorado.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Damn, it's nine eight am.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
There you go. What's that song from Oh Your Girl?
Oh and I've got my sweatshirt on my sweatsher done halftime? Yet?
Speaker 6 (43:02):
Didn't you turn it down?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Because they wanted like a percentage of her, like the
NFL wanted a percentage of her royalties of like records
sold after her performance or something.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Well, No, there was a pepsi coke.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Yeah, it's possible. I just made that up too.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
No, I think they tried to do that maybe with Springsteen.
You know, these artists benefit being at halftime show.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
All of a sudden, Taylor Swift is dating Travis Kelcey
and she's dipping her uh toes into the NFL and
perhaps she's the halftime show this year with Justin Timberlake
because they just did that whole MTV Video Music Awards thing.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
And then Jason is playing in the super Bowl, and
I thought she said she's.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Never ever ever during halftime. That's what I thought from
the getting Back Together song. She has a song called
never Ever getting back Together.
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Come on in stay a while. How much leverage does
show Heyo Tani have after undergoing a procedure. It reinforces
the healthy ligament in place. And the doctor is the
team doctor for the Dodgers, which I found interesting. He
(00:45):
just did Aaron Rodgers achilles and the doctor just did
show Heyo Tani that it wasn't Tommy John surgery. It
wasn't reconstructed that this is a sort of a Now,
this is the same doctor who did Tommy John surgery
on show Hey Otani back in twenty eighteen. But I'm
(01:06):
wondering if we get to the point where this is
called reinforcing the healthy ligament in place, could you see
a preemptive strike by pitchers who then go in at
a younger age and say, can we reinforce the ligament
before I blow out the ligament? So you do something
that's preventative the UCL and it wasn't reconstructed via Tommy
(01:33):
John surgery. It was reinforced. And you're also seeing something
that's different or unique with Aaron Rodgers with his achilles
and trying to get him back. Cam Akers the running
back with the Rams. He got back in action after
six months, and Aaron Rodgers is talking about trying to
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twitter handle at DP show pull. Question for two is
going to be one seed O Connor.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, this is kind of an interesting story that PAULI
brought to our attention. But how many hours of sleep
do you get a night?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay? Now, there's a Toronto Blue Jays pitcher who I
think normally gets eleven, twelve or thirteen hours of sleep.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yes, he's a Blue Jay starter. His name's you say, Kakuchi.
He's pretty good. He's ten and six, having a good season,
and he had some cramps and had to lead the
game the other day. And I guess the word got
to the reporter Katelyin McGrath of The Athletic that he
said it might be caused because he only got only
got eleven hours of sleep the night before and they
found up how many do you usually get? He said,
(02:39):
usually I get thirteen to fourteen hours sleep. Kakuchi went
on to say, yes, he goes to bed usually at
eleven pm and at the night game. He wakes up
the next day at one pm, So it's straight through
thirteen to fourteen hours sleep on a normal night, not
just pitching nights. Wow, Okay, shocking right. Yeah, he's reads
(03:04):
of a young man. He's like twenty nine years old.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Like cats don't even get this kind of sleep or dogs.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I looked up sleep Journal, Medicine, sleep Journal, and they
say thirteen hours sleep to fourteen fifteen is what someone
who's under two years old gets and they're supposed to
get and then it gets fewer hours as you get old.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, but can you have too much sleep? I don't
know if the American Medical Association would say if you
get this amount of sleep, it's actually a negative, yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It seems to me you'd be like groggy a lot
if you're sleeping that much and you get up, it
takes some time to come to and everything like that.
To spend over half your life. If he averages twelve
or more hours like sleeping instead of functioning and being
alive with the world, that just seems bizarre.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
According to a couple different sites, the Sleep Foundation, WebMD,
oversleeping can be bad for your health. It could be
a sign of depression, immune system issues. It could lead
to diseases for like because you're not processing sugar the
right way, diabetes, mental health, heart issues because your heart
is not up and ready to go, so it could
(04:11):
lower your heart function. But this guy is a professional
athlete who's pitching.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, you go to bed at eleven, you wake up
at one am. I in college. Again, how much sleep
do you get at nighttime?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I would say somewhere in the as far as good sleep,
four to five.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Hours probably sleep APP sleep APP.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I try to go to bed around eleven, but it
takes a while to fall asleep. But if I end
up the actual sleep time, I can't imagine it's more
than forty five hours.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
All right, seaton U, I'm like a five six hour night,
but I usually I also usually try to take a
nap somewhere during the day, so I try to make
up for it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But then I've been told that there's a certain amount
of time that's great for a nap, and then after
that you get kind of then it becomes a negative.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's like it's like under thirty minutes or over ninety
something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, Marvin, what about you? I'm also a sixer sixer?
What about you, Paulie?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I get seven hours of sleep at night, almost right
on the nose, and I usually get about a twenty
five minute afternoon nap. I'm on a site now that
tells how much napping you should do. They said fifteen
minutes is great for a refresher. It's almost like having
a quick cup of coffee. Anything more than forty five minutes,
you're tricking your body into thinking it's going to sleep
(05:31):
for the night, and it starts to shut down and
it makes it harder to get up and rejuvenate after
a forty five.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Minute Yeah, I have mine down to around thirty eight minutes,
you know, nap in the afternoon around thirty eight thirty
seven minutes for some reaon I don't set an alarm.
I just wake up, and you know, it takes me
a while. I'm groggy, and then I probably get eight
hours at night try to Yeah, see.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
I don't sleep. Schedule is extremely unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
But there are times where I'll get the like shake
at about like six o'clock, like, do you just want
to sleep for the rest of the night or are
you getting up for dinner? Oh like six o'clock PM.
I'll lay down at like two or something. They'll be like,
I'm just gonna do like fifteen minutes and then they'll
be like, so, are you gonna get up for dinner?
(06:23):
Or that hasn't happened in a while, but it's definitely
happened more than once.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
All Right, what's pole question for hour two going to be?
Speaker 6 (06:29):
See, we're going with how much sleep do you can get? Under?
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Eight?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Or eight plus?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
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here start out first hour Mike or second hour Mike
in Lake Tahoe. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Very good morning?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Then how you doing good sir?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
All right?
Speaker 8 (07:30):
I wanted to say I owe seating a pipe of
the face. I will be submitting that this weekend via
the Padres not winning the division, and I kind of
think he had something to do with that. No hitter
getting broke up in the ninth end and I'm just saying,
seating them Padres fans still watching him then.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No seating somehow. I don't know what you did to
San Diego or why you did it to San Diego,
but you did something. You know what.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's a classic problem with being on this show. I
go for the joke almost every time consequences be day end.
So yeah, I kind of I do. I have some
love for San Diego, though, but I like making people
laugh more.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Saturday night, the Ohio State Buckeyes headed to South Bend
taking on the Fighting Irish and Notre Dame. That'll be
in primetime and that'll be on NBC. I don't know
what the line is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
On this because my guess the line.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Okay, guess the line.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Number six Ohio State at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
What's Notre Dame's ranking number nine? Number nine?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Both undefeated?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Oh boy, this feels like this would be Ohio State
favored slightly.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You're onto something, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm going to say Ohio State favored by two.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm giving that to you. There are a favored by three.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
By the way, USC is favored by thirty four and
a half at Arizona State.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, so they need some challenging. Well, they could be
looking ahead to the Colorado matchup there, and then you
have what is the Colorado Oregon line? Is that I
still have four?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I still have it. I still have it at twenty
two oh twenty. Check some other places.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, I'm sure people will bet that up. They're betting.
They're betting Colorado to win outright.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
This is a lane big weekend for Lane Kiffin at Bama.
A wounded animal.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Possibly Chuck in North Carolina. Good morning, Chuck. What's on
your mind today?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Good morning DP, Good morning Dan Nuts.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
You know, just with the hype train of Colorado and
before we get to the next two big games Oregon
and USC next weekend, I'm wondering your thoughts on I
was looking at rankings for the top one hundred and
thirty three programs before the season. Colorado was ranked, according
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to this one site, eighty first, eighty first in the country.
They win one game against TCU, which was the ranked
number nineteen at the time, getting to the top twenty.
If they go there are seven teams from the PAC
twelve in the top twenty five right now, including Colorado.
So just as inside maybe the best conference in football
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while they're disbanding on that aside, If Colorado goes, let's
say there's six top twenty teams remaining on their schedule
for the next nine games. If they go five, and
if they go five and two against the seven top
twenty five teams that they're going to play this season,
and I know that can change you when it's all
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said and done. The SEC there's only six teams in
the top twenty five, So right now, no other conference
can play more than Colorado having the potential to play
seven top twenty five teams. If Dion goes let's say,
five and two against those seven top twenty five programs,
including TCU. They're not ranked now, but they were at
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the time.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, okay, I get what you're saying. Land the plane
longer than the Colorado State and the plane. Will they
be in the playoffs? Should they be in the playoffs? Well,
if you had twelve teams, but we got a long
way to go. I just I want to caution everybody
Colorado is ahead of schedule. I don't know if they're
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a good team. I don't think they're a great team.
I think they have a great story. But how about
in two weeks we kind of reset on this because
everybody is rooting for this, all involved, everybody wants to
talk to Dion. This is great. Yes, it's the story
of college football. But where are we going to be
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in three weeks? Where will we be in a month
with this story? And maybe maybe they beat Oregon or
they beat USC, or they do both, or they get
blown out by both, and then what happens after that?
What's the follow up? Is college game Day going to
go to Boulder anymore? Is Fox's big noon kickoff going
to go to Boulder anymore? No, they'll probably start to
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go to places where you have the teams that are
going to be there at the end. But look, I
enjoy this. I just want to caution everybody because it
feels like we're willing this to happen. It's wishful reporting,
wishful fandom with this. I just I want to sprinkle
in a little bit of reality. That's all, Yes, Todd
for those.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Who believe in Colorado. If, for lack of a better word,
what could happen this weekend against Oregon where someone would
not believe, like to get totally blown out? Like what
would be a magic number where someone who's all in
on Colorado is now not anymore losing by thirty forty.
I just wonder what that would be that outcome that
would make someone get off the Buffalo's train.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Well, what do you think I think if they.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Get blown out? I think a lot of people would
be like, oh, now that they played a really tough
team except FORDCU obviously you know, went to the national team.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yes, Paul, they're going to get a hall pass this
weekend if it's not a great game because the Travis
Hunter being out and it was a cheap shot, you know,
so they get a bit of a hall pass that
their best all round player is out and Oregon, you
know at Oregon everything there. So how much they spent
on the last game. Well, I'm really fascinated by if
and when Colorado gets to six wins the Bowl battle
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to get them. Oh yeah, because I don't know if
how the automated bulls work. It's not that slotted. But
if you're the Bahama Bull or the Cheese At Bowl
or the Pop Tart Bowl, you break the bank and say, look,
we want Colorado over all, you know, over anything like
would you want Ole miss at ten wins or Colorado
at seven?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah? But is there a negotiation that goes on with
these bowl games that it could be?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I would think it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I thought that you're slotted in who you pick.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Sometimes, Yes, a lot of a lot of the bulls
have slots. If you're the third ranked team in the
Pac twelve, you go blank.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Or you get to pick the teams that you want.
To a point, like, I think it's like, okay, here
the final four National Title game, those sites, those Bull games,
and then after that, what is that next bowl? Is
that the Citrus Bowl, Fiesta Bowl? They get to pick
the matchup that they want.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Some yeah, mostly they do. Sometimes they have like tradition
of taking the second best team in the PAC twelve.
But Colorado's gonna be scalding hot for the Bull season.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And I remember when this topic came up a couple
of weeks ago, and we were talking about could the
PAC twelve maintain the name the PAC twelve therefore still
have that automatic berth into a playoff and if you
could sue for that, But you only have a couple
of teams that are going to be left under that
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umbrella with the PAC twelve. But if you merge with
the Mountain West, don't you don't want to be the
Mountain West. You want to be the PAC twelve. And
I think that's going to be interesting with Washington State
and Oregon State. Can you keep the name and the
likeness and the automatic berth just you want the Mountain
West to join the PAC twelve, not the other way
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around uh, Nick and Indiana. Hi, Nick, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Hey, good morning Dad.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You got good.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Our first time six four, a shrinking two sixty and
solidly in the seven to eight hours of sleep club.
Also consider myself very fortunate that I started listening to
the show despite not being bedridden.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I want to talk today about Crappensburg State hype songs.
I've been thinking about this a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
By the way, we sold three hundred and fifty shirts
yesterday Crappensburg State, our fictitious university that we made up.
And what was the dukes?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
The Dukes of crap I believe they're going to be
the Crappensburg State Dukes.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Okay, I believe that's it, lovely man.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, what do you have to add to that? Nick?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yeah, I got a for you to get everybody hyped up,
depending on the age. So I'll start off at drop
it like a hot performed by poop Dog of course, Okay,
let it go to get the youths involved frozen, and
then making a mess by skid Row.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh wow, that's a deep cut. Okay, you're a full bloop.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Thank you, Nick.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
What's a good three hundred and fifty people ordered Crappensburg
State t shirts yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
People are pumped about it, and rightfully so yeah, rightfully yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I think you know what, I think we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think we're going to make those you know, like
those windows stickers that you put on for like parents and.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
They have their kids college. I think we're gonna make
Crappensburg State.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Why not? Yeah, my son goes to crap and.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Mind my child made the Dean's list at Crag State.
I think we're gonna do like a line of bumper
stickers and those windows stickers.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
My son made the Dean's list at Crappensburg State. Exactly,
no bleep. Yeah, It's like that movie, was it? Is it?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Jonahill where they go to a fake college. Is it accepted?
They South Harmon Institute of Technology. They just make up
a fake school.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Good flick Crappensburg State available at Danpatrick dot com. Take
a break, We'll talk to Jeff Passon of The Mothership
about the procedure show Heyo Tani underwent and how much
leverage does he have now here in the off season.
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Jeff passon the Mothership ESPN senior baseball insider joints Us
on the program, explain to me the procedure not surgery.
That show heo Tony had.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
It was a.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Surgery and they tried to talk around it, essentially to
not use the words Tommy John.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
What it was.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
Reading between the lines here was a revision, reconstruction with
an internal brace. What that means is Tommy John surgery
has evolved through the years, right it used to be.
Then the original procedure, Doctor Frank Joe went into Tommy
John's elbow and drilled holes and essentially looped a new
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ucl through those holes using a tendon that was taken
from his wrist. From what Neil Latrosh, the doctor who
did the surgery said in the statement, he talked about
it being a repair and a reinforcement, which suggests that
they didn't go in with the brand new tendon and
loop it through that they reinforced the old one that
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was there and added an internal brace, which is something
that doctor Keith meister A noted Tommy John expert has
been doing the last few years and that Neil Latrosha
has picked up on as well, and that has found
a ton of success in keeping guys healthy. Essentially, though, yes,
this was Tommy John surgery and Shojo. Tommy's not going
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to pitch next year, and the chances of him coming
back and pitching in the future, frankly are pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Okay, what's to do for his leverage here in the
off season?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Not a whole lot because he's still hurt, right, Like,
that's the problem with this. I was so genuinely wanting
to see him go into this winter healthy just to
see how high his contract was going to go. I
think if he was fully healthy going in, it was
going to be six hundred and fifty million dollars. So
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I think that this ucl tear, that this procedure is
going to cost him one hundred and fifty million probably,
But I really don't foresee many scenarios where it gets
too far under five hundred, Like maybe maybe teams are hesitant.
But let's look at it this way, Dan, you have
a baseline in place already with Aaron Judge, to whom
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Sho Hao Tani is a very comparable bat right, you
have nine years and three hundred and sixty million dollars.
That is a recent comparable. You also have the fact
that shoe Hayo Tani is the biggest star in the
sport and international superstar that your franchise value just by
having him around is going to jump. You're going to
sell tickets, you're going to sell merchandise, you're going to
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sell concessions, you're going to sell everything. And then, oh,
by the way, you've got the pitching element too. And
while you may not necessarily want to go out and
guarantee that type of money. Jameson is a two time
Tommy John guy who went out and got sixty eight
million dollars from the Cubs this past offseason, and Show
Heyo Tani is a lot better than Jameson Tai On
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has ever been before. So I think the argument in
his favor to go and get that five hundred million
really is valid. It's just a question of which organization
and specifically which owner is going to be willing to
take that lead, because all the other ones then are
going to want to say, you know what, yeah, we'll
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look at you being a pitcher, but you're going to
have to earn that this is going to be incentive based,
and frankly, I don't think he's going to want it
to be, and I don't think he should have it
need to be.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Should I read into the fact that it was the
Dodgers surgeon who did the surgery on Show Heyo Tony No.
Speaker 9 (22:48):
Neil Latrosh is just excellent at his job.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
He's the guy.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Him and Meister are the guys you go to, and
you know, Jeff Dugas and Birmingham like the David Altchek
like there are certain but when you are on the
West coast and you live in La you go to
neil E La trash, simple as that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
When do negotiations start for show Hao Tony.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
The day after the World Series ends? And you know what,
I'm sure there's back channeling going on right now that
that probably is against rules and regulations. But even with
this surgery, Dan, He's still going to be the you know,
the the hottest free agent that we've seen since Alex
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Rodriguez the first time when he signed with Texas. Like,
I can't think of another player who's gone out there
and reach free agency. I mean Bryce Harper, but that
that free agency sort of collapsed on itself, and that
that to me, is going to be the defining question here.
Are teams going to use the UCL issue as an
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excuse to avoid going after a transcendent player or are
they not going to get in their own way and
say this is a once in a lifetime literally Dan,
a once in a lifetime guy, and we have the
opportunity to get him purely for money. We don't have
to give up players, we don't have to give up prospects.
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All this is going to take is money, and I
think the smart owners out there will approach it that way,
and we're going to see a pretty interesting free agency
on account of that.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
All right, give me the teams one through three that
you think are going to be tough to be they're
going to be in for the sweep stakes. Here, Can I.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Go more than that? Because I don't. I haven't like
I don't think there's an established favorite at this point.
I think coming into this season, the expectation was Dodgers
or bus I don't think that's the case anymore. Like
around the industry, the Dodgers certainly have interests in Otani
and they're certainly going to be there, and if they
ended up with him in their uniform next year wouldn't
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surprise me. But the Dodgers are going to be there.
I think the Boston Red Sox are going to be there.
I think the Chicago Cubs are going to be there.
I think the Texas Rangers are going to be there.
At San Francisco Giants, you know, a team like Seattle
is really interesting to me. What is Seattle's appetite going
to be to go for the years rather than that
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short term, high dollar contract. And I don't know if
it's going to play out this way necessarily him. But
it would not surprise me at all if a couple
teams early on jump in with offers for like four
years at two hundred and forty million dollars, you know,
just saying, hey, we're not going to go long term
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with you, but we will give you, you know, fifty
percent more than any player has ever made. We will
make you a sixty million dollar a year player. And
at that point is Otani going to be intrigued by
that or is that simply going to embold in him
to take that sixty million dollar a year number and
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try and get it for eight or nine or ten
years as opposed to the four or five that some
teams might want to might want to offer.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The Angels' odds did they move it all increase, decrease
with the injury that he had.
Speaker 9 (26:22):
I guess maybe increased slightly, because there's a chance that
the market just collapses, right, There's a chance that teams
look at this and say, you know, we thought he
was a sixty million dollar year player, but now there's
just too much uncertainty, and the Angels could swoop in.
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But I gotta be honest, I'm not sure that the
Angels are willing to go out there and spend the
money to resign him. I don't know. I don't know
how heavy the interest is going to be there.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Could they have traded him almost two months ago? I
know that we said that they should have.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Yes, of course they should have. I mean it was
I wrote this in my column on ESPN dot com yesterday.
It was giving out awards, and the biggest blunder goes
to the Los Angeles Angels for not doing what was
patently obvious to everybody not named Artie Moreno. And when
you have an impetuous owner who makes decisions flying by
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the seat of his pants, and suddenly, like five days
before the trade deadline, when you have good offers lined
up for a guy who in all likelihood is going
to leave, but if you hold on to him, all
you're going to get out of it is like the
seventieth pick in the draft is compensation, and you say,
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you know what, we're fighting for a wild card spot
and that sounds like a damn good idea. I mean,
it's malpracticed, Dan it is.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And then I mean.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Of course they're going to double down on it by
going out and getting Lucas Gilio and Ronaldo Lopez that day,
and then a month later they give those guys away
for free. I mean, it's just organizational incompetence that I
frankly don't blame the baseball operations people for because they're
just doing what their owner asks. It's just extremely poor ownership,
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simple as that.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Always great to talk to you, Jeff, Thank you for
joining us.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Pleasure is always mind dad.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Thanks buddy, Jeff Passon Mothership ESPN senior Baseball insider. Get
a couple of phone calls here. You know, we brought
it up quite a few times ad nauseum and because
I could see this unfolding you he was not going
to stay. Now we didn't know he was going to
get hurt. But even then you could have traded him. Now,
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maybe the agent says, go ahead and trade him. He's
not signing with whoever you're going to trade him to,
So what's your return going to be? And that might
come out eventually that maybe they did explore a trade
and the owner or you know, the owner tried to
because all I would want to know is what's the
number and do you want to stay? And if you
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can't give me an answer to both or at least
one of those. Then I'm gonna trade you. I have
to do that as a businessman, and this is a
business decision. And we talked about that quite a few times,
that the Angels were going to walk away with nothing
out of this. A couple of phone calls in here,
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Uh Keith in New Orleans. Hi Keith, good morning. What's
on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Hey? Dan? And Dan?
Speaker 10 (29:38):
I appreciate you taking my call?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Are you Ben? Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Spectacular? That's good?
Speaker 10 (29:43):
First time call A long time listener.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (29:46):
Five eleven in the morning, five ten of a day
goes on two forty Okay, I got two things Dion
did Dion open up Pandora's box. And what I mean
by that is if another coach, new coach, come into
another college with less fanfare, less hoopla and do the
same thing Dion did, will that be accepted? What I
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mean by that is coming in getting rid of forty
five fifty players bringing in other players. Did he open
up something that's going to be uncontrollable or would it
be a double standard?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well, the portal did that. And what Dion was saying is, look,
the coaching staff and the players are responsible for one win.
Last season. Well, why do I want to have that
coaching staff or anybody on that staff or those players
if they only won one game. I'm going to bring
in my players, my coaches and do it my way. Well,
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you know, nil and the transfer portal allowed him to
do it, because you know in the older days that
you wouldn't transfer, but you had to sit out a year.
Then then you can't do that reclamation project, no mass transfers.
Dion was able to do it. Will other coaches do this,
maybe not to this degree, but yeah, of course, I
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mean coaches do this. They're just no, there's not any
attention attached to it the way it was with Dion,
and Dion putting it on social media that he's telling
these kids to their faces in a large conference room, basically,
pack your bags. I don't need you anymore.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Right, That's what he did, just the way he did it.
The other question is Lane Kiffen is the auditioned for
the job replacing when Nick Saban retires. As wee cand.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Maybe maybe you know, if you're Alabama boosters, you know
you want to see keep an eye on Lane kiffinn
offensive genius there. And you know Dabbos Sweeney. Maybe a
little bit of the luster is lost there with what's
happened at Clemson. But yeah, I think you could look
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at Lane Kiffen. Would that be somebody that you want
to hit your wagon to. I think we're coming up
on the anniversary of him being fired by USC, been
ten years, Does that sound right, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Tarmac Day, Yes, checking, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
How humbling is that? You get you you land, and
you come back from a loss, you land, and then
all of a sudden it's like, yeah, uh Lane, you're
gonna have to get your own ride home. You get
kicked to the curb at the tarmac, like you don't
even get They didn't have uber back then.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Like what do you do?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You got to call your wife and go, uh hunt,
can you come and pick me up?
Speaker 10 (32:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
What's wrong?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Uh well I'm not the coach anymore at USC? Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah, next week will be the ten year anniversary. They
call it the FBO firing because he was in the
little offices there the private jets. Oh god, big loss
to Arizona State cost him his job, yeah, and others.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, and USC plays Arizona State.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, so Lane Kiffin. According to the La Times, He
was called off the team bus at three am as
they were preparing to head back to campus on the
group of buses and his small room inside the terminal.
Pat hay the ad was sitting there and told him
he was done. I don't know how he got home.
I think we asked him how he got home from
the airport. I think someone at some Stafford game a ride.
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Oh my god checking.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You imagine you're on the bus getting ready to go,
coach head count and all of a sudden, Pat Hayden
shows up and says, uh, lane can yeah, yeah, yeh man,
that's tough loss. Yeah, I really was. You know, we're
gonna get him going. We're gonna get yeah about that.
You're not going to be on the bus ride. I
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have to I'm going to fire you. Has a coach
been fired in a more unceremonious fashion than that? Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Wasn't there one that was on TV?
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I don't know if it was HERM Edwards? Was Herr
Edwards at Arizona State told in the end zone, I
think walking off the field, I'm the athletic director. I
thought that cameras eight on the game. Yeah, it's called
network and they showed her Edwards.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Okay, would you rather get fired like that walking off
the field with the athletic director or you have to
get off the team bus in front of your team
and you're brought in and fired. Yes, yes, I'll take
it on the field.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
It gives me a little ecture time to figure out
how I'm getting home in an uber situation. And I
got to buy an airline ticket.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
And grab my gear, all the all the free swag
before to leave the locker room.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, there's just something about like, you know, what is
so bad, like just please leave now. We can't even wait.
That's just brutal. On the field, that is just brutal.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah, on the field, on the tarmac, on the.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
How about a nice uh you know, Saturday afternoon loss.
How about a nice Monday morning firing. That's that's the
timeline for me.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
All right, we'll take a break.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
More.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Phone call, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, it was HERM Edwards. The ad was talking to
him as he was leaving.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
There, and you could see he's told something where Herm's
surprised and if you have it on camera, it's like
HERM come over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
how HERM is he's always fired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're
going to fire you.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Okay, all right, now let me get off the field here,
all right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming
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Speaker 1 (37:06):
Quite a weekend for college football. I know a lot
of people have focused on Colorado against Oregon, but I
can't remember a weekend where you had this many matchups
with the ranked team. So number three, Florida State at
number twenty three, Clemson number nineteen, Colorado at number eleven,
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Oregon number twenty five, Ucla at number ten, Utah number sixteen,
Mississippi at number twelve, Alabama number fifteen, Oregon State at
number twenty four, Washington State number four, Ohio State at
number nine, Notre Dame number twenty two, Iowa at number seven,
Penn State. All of that coming up this weekend. That's
(37:51):
good stuff here. And Colorado in Oregon is a three
eastern start, just to let you know, plan accordingly. Yeah,
because that one is one of those where I thought
it would be in the evening totally. Yeah, three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
You know, Washington, the Huskies are getting no national love. Yeah,
they got they got you know, they got a lot
of ranked teams later in the season. They could they
want to, you know, crash a party.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Well, not everybody's gonna stay ranked, obviously, because you're gonna
have losses in the Pac twelve. But uh, you know
you got Colorado and Oregon. Uh, you're gonna have Ucla, Utah,
Oregon State, Washington State, they're going to you know, somebody's
gonna get knocked off there. Then you're gonna have teams
drop out of the top twenty five. Yes, Paul, this is.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Why Notre Dame should stay independent that they can play
in Ohio State in September, you know, because if they're
in the Big ten, I know they'll play Ohio State anyway.
But then they're gonna, you know, do the old thing
where they schedule some cupcakes.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah. I like that Ohio State and Notre Dame. You
can see that in primetime coming up on Saturday night.
I saw where, uh, Tiger Woods justin Timberlake are opening
up a sports bar in New York and it's an
entire city block. But I don't know is it a
bar restaurant? I know it's got golf simulators in there, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
It's got multiple rooms. Can you guys guess what the
name is?
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Gonna be?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Tiger Woods and justin Timberlake t squared, Oh okay, twenty
two thousand square feet, four different golf simulators, lots and
lots of TVs, and they're breaking it up into like
there's a bowling area. There's a lounge which has TVs,
but there's more bar and nice place. There's a pure
sports area that just surrounded with TVs.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
That's a lot of room there. Remember when ESPN had
ESPN the Zone, ESPN Zone Times Square, that was a
big building and it doesn't exist anymore. The building does,
but ESPN Zone does not.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yes, I always thought the danger of having a big
corporate sports bar is closing time, because what if you
were watching that Colorado Colorado State game at that sports
bar and you're sitting there and it's one o'clock closing time,
but you can stay up until two. Manager just doesn't
want it till two, and they say, okay, guys, last call.
I remember going to the ESPN Zone in New York
(40:10):
City and we'd try to stay late for a game
or something like we're closing at the Tuesday it's twelve
and you're like, oh, all right, I guess we're leaving.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Uh could you could you say last call at one?
But we're going to stay open until the game ends.
That maybe if I was the manager, that's what I
would do.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I'm looking at the decor. There's lots of like tiger Woods,
golf bags so forth.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, the idea that it's an entire city block is insane.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
Yeah, city city blocks are are are massive.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
They have a bar that.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Big, I know is incredible.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Just if you said Tiger and Justin Timberlake were going
to be there, I still wouldn't want to go. If
I knew they're going to be there, Well, okay, I
might be able to see them and then that's it.
But you're you're asking that's a lot of people. I'm
guessing this has to be close to Times Square. You
want to get the tourists that come in because I
(41:12):
don't know if locals. Locals love to have their own
little bar. I don't know if you want to go
to this. This is this is an event, Yes, Poem.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I have it located at forty second Street in Bryant Park,
which is about four blocks west of Grand Center.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Nice area.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yes, yes, mar this is quite the rollout for the
insinct Super Bowl announcement.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh you think that's attached to this? Look Justin got
with in Sync at the VMA. Something's going on with
in Sync, right, Something's going on. They're trying to be
koy and it feels like they're ready to announce something.
By the way, Colorado USC next week. What time do
you think it starts? I think this is this has
(41:54):
already been announced at Colorado. What time?
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Seven thirty pm Eastern Marvin.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
I'm with PAULI seven thirty Todd nine.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Eastern, nine eastern Seaton.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Can they change the time of the game or is
this set right now? Like it has to be at
the time?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I think because depending on what happens with Colorado Oregon,
I think that the USC time is hinging on.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
That m.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I have nine a m. Pacific time.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
You're going with a noon kickoff on noon noon.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
USC Colorado big noon kickoff. I'm guessing nine am advantage Colorado.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Damn, it's nine eight am.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
There you go. What's that song from Oh Your Girl?
Oh and I've got my sweatshirt on my sweatsher done halftime? Yet?
Speaker 6 (43:02):
Didn't you turn it down?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Because they wanted like a percentage of her, like the
NFL wanted a percentage of her royalties of like records
sold after her performance or something.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Well, No, there was a pepsi coke.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Yeah, it's possible. I just made that up too.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
No, I think they tried to do that maybe with Springsteen.
You know, these artists benefit being at halftime show.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
All of a sudden, Taylor Swift is dating Travis Kelcey
and she's dipping her uh toes into the NFL and
perhaps she's the halftime show this year with Justin Timberlake
because they just did that whole MTV Video Music Awards thing.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
And then Jason is playing in the super Bowl, and
I thought she said she's.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Never ever ever during halftime. That's what I thought from
the getting Back Together song. She has a song called
never Ever getting back Together.
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