May 8, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan wonders if Michael Penix Jr. might divide the Atlanta’s locker room if he is as good as advertised and puts pressure on the coaching staff to start him over Kirk Cousins. And legendary broadcaster Mike Breen drops by to talk about calling NBA Playoff games and what he’ll do with a night off tonight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Both are up one game to none. Bruins Panthers tonight
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coming up our two. Mike Breen, voice of the Knicks,
voice of the NBA for the Mothership, will stop by.
And Steve Javi, former NBA official By the way, I
think Steve Javi was the official for Michael Jordan's last
game ever. So we'll talk to him coming up a
(00:50):
little bit. Get his thoughts on the officiating the last
two minutes, where you know, full transparency with the NBA
and here we made all of our mistakes and you
know we're here to bow down to you and say
we're sorry, we hope to be better next time. I
want to ask him what is this supposed to accomplish?
(01:11):
And is it accomplishing what the NBA hopes it's supposed to,
and that is full transparency. Here's our mistakes, because if
you want full transparency, then how about the entire game.
So we'll talk to Steve Javvy a little bit later
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Just turned thirty three. Our good buddy in there taking
your phone calls. Also, we have a whole question Seaton
for hour two. Is that different than hour one? We
had a couple on hour one.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, let me update you there. Hour one we ended
up going with was that suspension or excuse me, was
the fine for Jamal Murray enough or should it have
included a suspension? Okay, right now, seventy three percent of
the audience say it needed a suspension.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I think it's fair. Yeah, I do. I think it
needed a suspension as well. I'm glad he's playing Friday Night.
You want the stars to play. But you know that
this is where the commissioner has to look at this
and say, I don't care who did it, somebody is
going to get suspended here and it's Jamal Murray. But
that's the frustration that Minnesota has provided Denver. I mean,
(02:17):
these are the defending champs, and you would have thought
they were, you know, a young upstart the way they
reacted to not getting calls.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes see, it is odd that it's a team that's
been there. That's I mean, right, like you said, they're
the defending champions, that they unraveled mentally, Yeah, it felt
like so quickly right in front of you, or so
extremely maybe yeah, I mean Michael Malone runs out on
the court, doesn't get teed up for that, Jamal Murray frustrated,
throwing two things on the floor.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And now you have Friday night in Minnesota. We'll get
phone calls coming up eight seven to seven three DP
show great action though last night with hockey with the
Rangers over the Hurricanes and the Avalanche over the Stars,
Rangers and Hurricane in double overtime. There was something that
I reported to you a couple of weeks ago. My
NFL source said, we were talking about Kirk Cousins, Michael
(03:09):
Pennix Junior, and my source said, here's something to keep
an eye on, and that is the off season workouts
for the Falcons with Michael Pennix junior because Kirk Cousins
won't be able to play. And then you get to
the preseason, and then is Michael Pennix getting most of
the reps here? And my source said, the following players
know before anybody else knows if you can play. Those
(03:32):
players are going to see Michael Pennix. And if Michael
Pennix is as good as advertised, now all of a sudden,
they're seeing him and they're going, he gives us a
better chance at winning than maybe Kirk Cousins does. That's
when you have a locker room that gets split. That's
where you have a coaching staff trying to put out fires.
That's where you have ownership going, did we make the
(03:53):
right call here? Now? You want to draft Michael Pennix junior?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Adam Schefter came out yesterday and talked about this and
basically echoed, you know what I said that Michael Pennix,
if he's going to get all these reps and get
into you know, preseason, maybe he's going to show you
that the timeframe has moved up on Kirk Cousins. Keep
this in mind. With Kirk Cousins, I know he's surprised, shocked,
probably disappointed that they drafted Michael Pennox junior. Kirk Cousins
(04:22):
was told the Vikings were going to draft a quarterback
as well, so he can't be surprised they were going
to get a quarterback and probably getting JJ McCarthy. That's
part of the reason why I wanted out. So he
goes to Atlanta, gets his three year deal one hundred
million dollars guaranteed. They don't tell him that they're drafting
a quarterback. Maybe they hint at it, then they draft
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a quarterback. First of all, I wouldn't have brought in
Kirk Cousins at this age, coming off of this injury.
And if you and if you're bringing him in, why
am I going to lock him up for three years
one hundred million dollars guaranteed. If I'm drafting Michael Pennox,
who's our ready twenty four, and I'm using the timeframe
of three to four years, that doesn't make any sense.
(05:07):
I wouldn't have brought in kirk Cousins. And if I did,
I would have brought him in and said, look, we're
going to draft a quarterback as well. Your first year
is guaranteed. You want to guarantee the first two years,
but I don't want any more than that. And then
if you do take Michael Pennock's Okay, I at least
understand it. And this has nothing to do with Michael
Pennix because I like him, but I don't like the situation.
(05:31):
Because Pennix is going to get there. He's going to
be your starter. He's going to get all the reps.
The players are going to go, damn. He's got a
strong arn't man. I mean this when Justin Herbert went
to the Chargers granted what was hei the fifth pick
overall those players. If you watch Hard Knocks, you can
see them in real time go damn. That's different. Now
(05:53):
they're not bringing in a Kirk Cousins in that situation,
but you brought in Kirk at his age coming off
the Achilles. He's not going to be starting in the
OTAs probably in the preseason, and Michael Penix has a chance.
I'm not saying stealing this, but he's going to get
in there and ingratiate himself with his teammates. That's where
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it gets dangerous because when Kirk struggles, you're going to
have players whispering. You know, put in Pennis. I don't
want a three or four year time frame for him.
I'm going to give you two years at most that
Michael Pennis will be the starting quarterback for the Falcons. Yeah,
poem based off that.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
But can't you see even if Michael Penicks is fantastic
and OTAs in camp, that management and ownership says it's
Kirk Cousins and we're not going to listen to the
players from a perception standpoint. Can you imagine the fans response,
Like you can almost compare it and not compare it
to Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn with the Seahawks. But
they didn't invest a zillion dollars in Matt Flynn, but
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everyone thought he would be the starter. It feels like
it's Kirk Cousin's job until they're definitely of the playoffs.
And that's a division where you're never out of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's a division to win. I'm just
going by if I apply logic, which is rare in
this business, but I'm gonna apply logic. I didn't want
Kirk Cousins at that price for those many years coming
off that injury at his age. Just start there. Now,
you're gonna draft Pennix, Okay, I'm not waiting four years
for Michael Pennix. Hey, that's I want to use his
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rookie contract. Yes, I'm going to eat some money. I'm
going to give Kirk Cousins two years. Even if Kurt
Kirk Cousins plays well in those two years, I might
look at, you know, trying to unload him. You know,
maybe towards the end of his career, does somebody want him, maybe,
you know, at a better price. But I if I'm
thinking about the future of the franchise, the future could
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be a lot sooner than three or four years. Now.
This is just based off my source, and he's the
one that told me a couple of weeks ago. Schefty
just brought this up and echoed the same thing what
I'm telling you.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Yes, Mark, the Falcons GM put himself automatically on the
hot seat when he decided to draft Panics and explain
to Arthur Blank why they were drafting Michael Pennis.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I guess Arthur Blank is on board with all of this.
But if I'm looking at the war room on draft night,
it certainly seemed like the GM was trying to explain
to the owner exactly what they were doing. Now that
doesn't mean hey, I don't get it. Oh now I
get it. Okay, I'm fine with this. I'm not drafting
a quarterback for four years down the road or three
years down the road at the number eight position. If
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you said I got him in the second round, okay,
I'll wait a little bit. But in the NFL, they
don't wait that long. And that's why I think Atlanta
I would be really surprised if Kirk Cousins is the
quarterback in his third year there. Now, let's say he's
healthy and he's going to give you good numbers. But
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you're drafting Michael Pennix because you think that he can
give you something a little more than what Kirk Cousins,
because if not, you would just keep Kirk Cousins in there.
He's not a guy who relies on his legs. He
doesn't have a particularly strong arm, he knows how to
play the position. Well, you're drafting Michael Pennix because he's
somebody a little bit different. But the fact that Chefty
(09:13):
came out and said this yesterday, I wanted to reiterate
what was said, and that is Michael Pennock's going to
get there, have the first team reps, and he's going
to have everybody's attention there. What could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yes, Paul, it is weird now that the draft is
over for a little bit. I don't like the I
didn't like the draft pick by the Falcons, but I
love the state of the Falcons. If you look at
the division, they were seven and nine and they missed
a playoff game by two games with Desmond Ritter, and
they went to Kirk Cousins with optimal conditions and some health.
They've drastically upgraded their quarterback. I mean, Cousins may not
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have to do a lot of heavy lifting to get
them to ten wins and get them into a playoffs. Yeah,
and you may be in a position where you could
sit Michael PENNOCKX for a year or two.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They're talking three or four. Yeah, you don't drive somebody
in the top ten where you go, you know, he's
a project. Three or four years. Doesn't happen?
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Yeah, it seems like two of the master doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Doesn't happen. By the way, Joe Burrow, he's coming back
from his wrist injury and got a new hairdo.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Well, it's very swoopy. Well, maybe just had a bad
hair dab. It's a very late early nineties.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Here's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
This has definitely been one of the most challenging parts
of my life for the last several months. But we're
getting through it and continuing to improve mentally and physically
every day. So it's definitely a challenge and a process.
I'm going to be smart about it. You know, if
I need a break, I need a break the wrist.
Maybe he's going to hurt sometimes, and I'm going to
be honest and with myself about how my body's feeling.
(10:49):
Maybe a little more cautious than I have been in
years past.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Okay, Yeah, needs to be wrist injury. That's certainly tricky.
But PAULI was more bothered by the hair a little bit,
a little bit more of a he just get it
shaped up.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Yeah, but it's it's off season.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, but he's still Joe Burrow. I mean he can
still walk in with swag. By the way, did you
see Shay Gilgis Alexander with what he was wearing last night?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Wor the's original color?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Was that was that scotch, like a butterscotch butterscotch I
get and you can only wear that one time? Right,
that's that's like borrowed though, right. You don't think that's
his I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I feel like I feel like a stylist or a
designer or somebody is like, hey, wear this for us
tonight and then just give it back to us. Okay,
I think it's I think it's either rented or borrowed
or I don't think he owns that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
But that's butterscotch leather.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Yeah, and it's not just the suit.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
It's butterscotch leather shirt, tie, jacket, shoulder bag pants.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But it's not like you can go, hey, I'm gonna
bring that out next series. You can't do that. It's
too much of a statement there. Yes time, and he's
got a buttery smooth game.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
So why not?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Thank you? Thank you, Tom? Do you just get here?
I just got a couple of minutes ago, all right,
stuck in traffic. You guest three guest Wednesday, Fritzy, Yeah, kid.
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Who's coming on tomorrow?
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Marvin in Texas, Marvin, good morning, what's on your mind today? Morning? DP?
How you doing great?
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Bud say, first of a long time? Five eleven one
two so be the NBA thinks with the a two
minute report that they deemed it, that's the most critical
part of the game. And in that two minutes they
had five miss calls. Yeah, I'm not good at maths,
but that's something they're missing. Thirty calls a quarter, one
hundred and twenty a game. So instead of this pointless
(13:46):
two minute report, why can't we get like a Freedom
of Information Act?
Speaker 11 (13:51):
We could get to where we could.
Speaker 10 (13:53):
Get a dialogue between the replay center and the rest.
So really, you know, put the rest if they really
want that Nick's first stelf to serious.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All right, well you good luck with that, Thank you, Marvin. Yeah,
if they missed I think they had. They missed four
of the five calls. The one they got right was
the screen that knocked down the Vincenzo, so they said
they got that one right, but they missed four other ones.
This in the last two minutes. Uh, Kevin in California, Hi, keV,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (14:22):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
Hey.
Speaker 11 (14:24):
Is there a rule I know in college, you know,
coaches to spend players for half a games. You know,
sometimes if they break a team rule in pro sports,
can teams get to or PLAYE get to spend it
for a half a game.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Teams can suspend a player. I'm trying to think the
last time that happened. Somebody just brought this up to me,
that a team suspended a player. It wasn't the league
that did. I don't know. Maybe I can find that,
but I'm trying to go through the rolodex here. Pool
man Z in Florida, Hey pool Man.
Speaker 12 (14:57):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 13 (14:58):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Good sir?
Speaker 12 (15:00):
Just a quick question, poll question. If you were in Minnesota,
would you want Jamal Murray or anyone to be suspended
so that the Denver Nuggets can use that as an
excuse that that's why they lost the series.
Speaker 14 (15:13):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I don't care what the excuse is. If I advance,
I don't care. Have all the excuses you want. You
had Game one and two at home and you got
blown out. You got no excuses. And if that's your excuse,
well Murray didn't get to play in game three, Well
you got to play in game one and two. You
have no excuses there. Let's see Ta in South Dakota. Hey, Ta,
(15:37):
what's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (15:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Good greetings, Dan, How are you good?
Speaker 14 (15:40):
Sir?
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Good? Oh?
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Speaker 2 (17:02):
Your death certificate. Right, Well, we'll refund you. Mike Breen
set to join us coming up Voice of the NIGS,
Voice of the Mothership with the NBA playoffs, and we'll
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the popular Mike Breen ESPN play by play commentator also
(18:21):
for ABC. Does the Knicks play by play. You'll be
on the call tonight Game three, that'll be uh Nicks
in the piecers. Oh no, you're gonna be on the
call for Friday night. You get to watch again. You
don't have to work tonight. Is that what's going on
here in the Breen household?
Speaker 17 (18:37):
You just had me extremely nervous that I was tonight.
What I forget?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
What is it like though, to watch the Knicks when
you're normally calling the Knicks, but you're just a fan
watching them?
Speaker 17 (18:51):
Well, for me, Dan, I get to watch the games
with my kids, which never happens, and tonight is would
be my wife's birthday, so she wants to go to
the game. So I think in all the years I've
done this, I don't think I've ever sat next to
my wife watching an NBA game. So it's a first
(19:11):
and it's kind of a treat watching with it because
I never get to do it.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
So it's going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
When you're calling a game and the Knicks aren't involved
in it, it's probably easy to be right down the middle.
How is it? What do you fight when you're calling
the Knicks games and it's you know, on National TV?
Speaker 17 (19:28):
Yeah, I've done it so much over the years that
it just becomes another game in terms of having to work.
I think when I first started doing it back in
the nineties, and it was some of those great Knicks
Pacer games, you know, you had to focus, like, hey,
make sure you you're as fired up for a great
Pacers play as you are for a great Knicks play.
(19:50):
But I actually found it it wasn't hard to do.
You just kind of get You're caught up in your job.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
You have so many.
Speaker 17 (19:55):
Responsibilities and things to do, so it hasn't been a.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Problem for I look back on the reaction, whether it
was in print or on TV shows or radio shows,
when the Knicks got Jalen Brunson, and it felt like
it was a universal underwhelming reaction from the audience. Here,
what was your reaction when you realize that was the
next big off season acquisition.
Speaker 17 (20:21):
Loved them when he was in Dallas, thought it was
a terrific pickup, had no idea that he would reach
this level. I don't think his dad thought he would
reach this level. It's been one of the greatest sensions
that I've ever seen in terms of, you know, good
solid player can help a team win to being one
of the best players in the NBA. It's a remarkable story,
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especially when you think of all that goes back to
the history of it. I mean, Leon Rose was Rick
Brunson's agent. Rick was his first client. He's known Jalen
since he was a kid. He's his godfather. And here
the three of them are all in the midst of
one of the best runs that Nick team has had
in many, many years.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
How do you explain Brunson's greatness?
Speaker 17 (21:08):
Well, Number one, it's I know what everybody says it
it's the most incredible work ethic he could ever see.
All these movements he has with the footwork, and he's
his footwork.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
Is as good as anybody.
Speaker 17 (21:19):
He practices them all the time. He's in the gym
all the time. He does everything from working on his
game to getting proper rest to eating the right way.
He's just he's so driven to be the best player
he can be. Now, you know, I said when he
came in, and I've said this about some others as well,
I don't know what his potential is, but the one
(21:42):
guarantee that I have is that he will reach that potential.
That's the kind of work ethic he has.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What about the supporting cast That's always been my big
question mark of who is the consistent second or third
option for this team.
Speaker 17 (21:57):
Well, they've taken turns, DiVincenzo has kind of taking the
lead on a lot of games, and you know, like
you look at what they've done so far in the
playoffs and what Bruns's numbers are just.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
It's off the charts and historic.
Speaker 17 (22:12):
But the three biggest shots of their playoff run two
Vy Devincenzo Game two in the first series, Game one
the other night, and Josh Hart the three pointer in
Game six against Philadelphia. It's also you know, shows you
how Brunts and his team first, that he's willing to
give up at the ball at the biggest moment and
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that these guys aren't afraid.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
To take it.
Speaker 17 (22:34):
But with this team dan it, you know, we tend
to forget because we so focus on the stars, and
the stars are amazing and isolation basketball and the ability
to get your own shot. It's still and always will
be five guys or five girls playing together and being
able to outwork talent because of you know, the sum
of their parts. And I think this team is an
(22:56):
unbelievable example of that. We've seen over the years teams
that have a lot of talent, littered with talent, they
don't win anything. It's still about connection on the court
with five players, and they work so well together. And
for me that's been the most fun watching them is
because they really are a connective team.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Explain to me the value of the last two minutes
where the NBA gives you full transparency. What is it
supposed to accomplish and is.
Speaker 17 (23:24):
It I don't think it has any value anymore. When
it first came out, I thought, Okay, this will be interesting.
You get to see and they check and they want transparency,
and you like that. It's a good thing to have.
But I think it's outlived it's worth because all it
does is get people upset. If you and I sat
down and we watched say, the eighty five Finals with
(23:47):
the Lakers and the Celtics, I guarantee you every single
one of those games, in the last two minutes, they'll
be three or four missed calls or incorrect note calls
or whatever the way they phrase it. It's happened all
the time now because we have replayed now because as
we know, with television, there's so many more cameras focusing
on every little thing. Now that we have social media,
(24:08):
it's a huge thing, and it is and it's important
and they have to get these calls right at the.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
End of games.
Speaker 17 (24:12):
But this has been going on for decades in the NBA.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
It is part of it.
Speaker 17 (24:17):
The officials, like coaches and players, are human and they
make mistakes as well.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'm talking to Mike Breen. He won't be on the
call tonight, he gets the night off again, but he'll
be on the call on Friday night. It'll be the
Knicks and the Pacers. So Reggie Miller's in the building tonight.
How do you think he'll How would the fans react
to Rich I think they'll.
Speaker 17 (24:38):
Ras them as much as they can, but I think
for most of them, certainly can't speak for all.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
For most of them, they'll do it out of.
Speaker 17 (24:45):
Fun and respect, because as much as he destroyed their
lives on numerous occasions, I think they respect what a
great competitor he was and you know, bring back memories
of back in the nineties, which still overall or.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Great memories for Nick fans. But he's going to hear it.
Speaker 17 (25:03):
I'm sure Regie will play it up as well.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'm wondering, as much as we criticized James Dolan, is
anybody giving James Dolan credit that they're they're playing well.
This a good team, a cohesive team that you know,
we had no problem criticizing him before the way he
ran the team. I'm wondering if anybody has given him
credit for where this team is now.
Speaker 17 (25:25):
Yeah, I've seen some credit for him. And part of
it with this group is, you know, he hired a
guy in Leon Rose who never had this position before.
And what he's done in terms of patience, which is
hard to do in New York as we know, I
think has been extraordinary. He's not tried to hit the
(25:46):
Grand slamd home run. He's tried to build a team
to show what we're what we're seeing a team that
plays well together. So he banked on Jamon Brunson being
the guy. Now he's putting the players around him that
will enhance Jamn brunts and who can enhance them as well.
Tom Thibodeau was not the most popular choice, as much
as he is one of the elite coaches in the game,
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but people wanted a fresh face he was going to
get last season in December. I'm convinced that he may
have been fired if they didn't win a game in
December against Cleveland. But Leon Roch showed patients there because
it does take time. It takes time for players to connect,
to take time for players and coaches, and in today's
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sports world, dand the front office and the coaching staff.
What a difference when they're on the same page. And
I think that the patients from ownership to the front
office to the coaching staff is a big reason why
they're succeeding.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
When do you get the sheet of the celebrities who
will be at the game?
Speaker 17 (26:46):
Oh, I need to have it the night before. I
usually get a little bit before the game. It's to
be it's going to be a long list, and there's
always at least two or three.
Speaker 9 (26:59):
I have no idea who.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
They are, Okay, but do you ask? Do you ask
your kids? Like you know, who is bad Bunny?
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (27:08):
Yeah, Bad Bunny was one that I that I had
to and i'mbarrassed to say that, but that's it, and
my kids are the best resource for it. There's always
somebody in the truck who knows exactly who they are
and tells me exactly how to how to say who
they are.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Great to talk to you. Once again, Mike is not
working tonight. He is going to be working on Friday night.
Speaker 17 (27:29):
I love the color of your sweatshirt, by the.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Way, thank you, thank you. It's uh. Is there any
team that comes Maybe the old Atlanta Hawks with Pete Maravitch,
didn't they have a little bit of lime green in it?
Or Seahawks Seahawks color rush.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
There you go. Okay, I like that, not the Hawks,
but that's nice.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Once again, Mike Green not working tonight because it's his
wife's birthday and he gets to sit next to her
and cheer yay go, nixt go, Thank you Mike. That's
Mike Breen. He'll be on the call Friday night and
it'll be Pacers in the Knicks, and then Sunday afternoon
that'll be on ABC. So he'll be busy coming up
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over the weekend. Brine's been doing it a long long time,
and I remember when he started with the NBA Finals
and not a lot of people knew him because he
was in New York. He also did the news on
Don Imus's show in the morning. I think had fun
with that, but also doing the Knicks in great sense
of humor. A couple of phone calls in here. By
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the way, we'll have a story where Austin Rivers was
on Pat McAfee yesterday and he was talking about how
there's at least thirty NBA players who could play in
the NFL, but nobody in the NFL who could play
in the NBA. Will have our opinions on that coming up.
Let me see. By the way, we've also come up
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with a new T shirt idea. Maybe it was a
member of the audience. So there's the Dead Dad's Club,
but then there's also the Divorce Dad Club as well.
Looking for another DDC because there's also the Dead Dog Club,
which is now we have the Divorced Dad's Club DDC.
We might need to trademark that.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, just the letters and then under all of these
different uses.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Pierre in California, Hi Pierre, what's on your mind?
Speaker 14 (29:21):
Hey DP, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
Appreciate it first time.
Speaker 17 (29:26):
Long time five to seven, six or four.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
On the hoops court?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, get up?
Speaker 9 (29:32):
What's up?
Speaker 14 (29:33):
So I was thinking about this whole DDC as an
official member of the DDC. I was thinking about Marvin
and how maybe we could do.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
At new T shirt idea, the dad to Me Dad's club.
It's a little wordy, but the dead dad to Me club.
C e yeah to me club. Yeah yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know how many of those T shirts we
would say, but.
Speaker 18 (30:04):
It would just be blank. Oh wasn't there? Ye have
Itt Bridget was there? Oh she was, yeah, Yeah, it's
all you need. Your mom did a great job. Yes,
me too, Yes, she did a great job. Let me
see Bill in Texas. Hi, Bill, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
Hey? Danny? Uh quick? NBA? And then a Fritzy comment.
Speaker 19 (30:31):
Okay, the collabor of the NBA to think that the
last two minutes should be reviewed by the referees when
guys and gals are losing points at the end of
the first quarter, second third, and third quarter for over
unders and points.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
Spreads and everything else. It's just silly. If you're gonna
go into bed with Vegas, you got to the games
as up and up as you can.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I agree, Yeah, I agree? Yeah, what else? Bill?
Speaker 11 (30:56):
And my thought on Fritzy is that I would I
would equate him to Reggie Jackson of the Dan Patcha show.
There's times he's striking out and cork screwing himself into
the ground, and other times he's hitting three home runs
on three pitches and raising the show to new heights.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, all right, so Todd is mister October you might
be like Adam Dunn, Yeah, you're gonna hit a home run?
Or are you gonna strike out?
Speaker 7 (31:24):
That's a lot of strikeouts. I believe that.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, but I think he hit four hundred fifty home runs.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
I could live with that.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You're not Reggie Jackson. You're not, I mean Reggie Jackson,
the NBA player, but not Miss Struck was born in October. Yeah, yeah,
ten ten, ten, same birthdays, Ben bet Farv Yeah and
ten sixty nine. Thank you.
Speaker 17 (31:43):
Ten.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Uh. Let's see Tommy in Wisconsin. Hi Tommy, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 14 (31:49):
Hey Dan, thanks for the voicemail. Getting back to you
on the whole NBA officiating reviewing it. By the way, Fritz,
that's a bulk. But when it comes to the NBA
refrishat you know, refreshing looking at things. Is that something
that you guys should do on your show? You do
the what we've learned. How about the whole transparency at
the end of the show, where you kind of standing.
(32:11):
You know, you make mistakes, not that there's one, damn
it that makes I don't know a lot of mistakes.
But is that transparency something you guys are.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Gonna have, No, Tommy, we do it in real time.
I mean, it's not like the official walks over to
the broadcaster and says, uh, by the way, we made
a mistake there. They don't do that. We do that.
If we make a mistake, we tell you we made
a mistake. It's in real time. And usually if Todd
has a bad joke, then we say in real time
and that's a bad joke time. Todd doesn't admit it.
(32:39):
I will never admit yes, but we do.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Luckily, he's got the four of us to constantly remind
him of every slightest misstep.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, it's very helpful.
Speaker 15 (32:47):
It's good for the therapy.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But you would think that with all of this, you know,
all of these people helping you, that you would be
even better, stronger.
Speaker 15 (32:55):
You would think of Nikki Ei the tougher, or you
sink down to a lower level and just need that
much more.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Money, or you wouldn't make the same mistakes over and
over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's the real question is that people here helping him
helping is an interesting Are we helping him to get
better or helping him into his own demise?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
M can't really tell. Sometimes very fair quick time to
take a break back after.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
This, be sure to catch the live edition of The
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Speaker 2 (33:25):
Mike breen followed up with Fritzie and said, sorry for
being boring on his appearance. Hey one, I was hoping
for something where he'd go bang bang. I should have
done that, maybe gotten a bang out of Breenie.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Austin Rivers, former NBA player, He was on Pat McAfee
yesterday and took issue with McAfee for calling basketball a
soft sport, and they discussed Pat Riley labeling Tyler Hero
fragile for being constantly hurt. Do we have the sound
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of Austin Rivers here at least a portion where the
best athletes in the world are that's us.
Speaker 14 (34:07):
I could take thirty players right down in the NBA
and throw them in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You cannot take thirty NFL players to put him in
the NBA. Whoa five on the court.
Speaker 16 (34:16):
Let's just you get a break every play.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I gotta just catch the ball and run from the
north or south. It ain't like our sports better.
Speaker 20 (34:24):
Our sport's better because we would just create a position
for one of you five to forty run in six
foot ten guys and just put them you know, can't
get hit much fragile.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
All right, Okay, do we think he's being serious here?
Like it? It felt like maybe he was having a
little bit of fun, and then he got a little
more serious about this. You know, Pat Rowley was talking
about now he had glowing things to say about Tyler Hero,
but he also said, you know, he gets banged up,
he's fragile. Well, Tyler Hero has a hard time playing
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more than sixty games. And I think that's what he used,
the word fragile, which I was surprised at.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yes, it is funny to hear Pat mcafeebe like, you
guys are soft because you just get hit as a
punter as a punter.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
But he was on the field, so all right, you'll
give him that. All right, So he can take thirty
players right now in the NBA and throw them into
the NFL. You can't take thirty NFL players and put
them into the NBA. Paulie, I'll start with you.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
I think he's mostly wrong. Austin Rivers.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
I think there's a bunch of NFL players who could
work into the NBA, and I think vice versa. I
think there's some NBA players if they got their stuff together.
But I think NFL is underrated for how much technique
there is position by position.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
I don't know if it's the same in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
One thing I know is NFL players could play eighty
games in the NBA, no problem with the physicality because
it's a collision sport at a context sport. NBA players
could not last a month. I don't think there's any
NBA players that could last a month in the NFL.
Would not make it to be a week four odd.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
What about you? Where do you stand on Austin Rivers?
I could get thirty players in the NBA and they
could play in the NFL. I can roll with that.
Speaker 15 (36:07):
And I also think it's more stamina for you can
go from NFL to NBA. Just there's much more stamina
running back and forth with the NBA that you can
have NFL guys play in the NBA and not vice versas.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
What about you, Seaton. I don't think the number thirty
is right.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
But I think if the real conversation is about like
technical ability and things like that, I think he's absolutely right.
I don't there are lots of that the NFL. To
play football, what you really need are two things toughness
and athleticism. Other than that you need you actually need
very little technical ability to put the ball and somebody
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puts it in your hands and then you run with it.
You had your technical ability is how do you cradle
it in your arm? That's what you have to work on.
It's it's not even close to what a NBA player
has to do.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Marvin, I was seeing completely.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I don't think there's five NFL players that could play
like play in the NBA, play in the NBA. I
don't think there's five NFL players.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Okay, well, we've seen players who have played in college.
You know, Tony Gonzales and Tonio Gates. Randy Moss could
have played in the NBA. He could have been a
bench player. I think he was that talented. But as
far as nowadays, yes.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Mark, Antonio Gates and Tony Gozalez were from football. It
started playing basketball or they were from basketball started playing football. Yeah,
so that just Jimmy Graham, Yeah that proves Austin's point. Yeah,
like I played basketball, Okay, I'll just play football.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
They Yeah, well, I think we get caught up in Uh.
You know, you have to have this great technical talent
to play in the NFL. I think you have to
have more technical talent to play in the NBA because
you got to play both ends. You know, the offensive
lineman doesn't all of a sudden go okay, now you
got to play defense. You've got to play both ends
of the floor. The ability to have great footwork, be
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able to shoot, handle all of those things. I'm an
offensive lineman, Okay, I gotta have good footwork and I block,
but I'm not going to be tackling anybody.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
The quarterback, uh, whatever the position. Could Patrick Mahomes play
like he's great at playing quarterback? Could that translate into
playing in the NBA? Alan Iverson? Alan Iverson could have
played in the NFL in my opinion, And you know,
Michael Vick even said that's how talented that he was.
So are there thirty players? Maybe not that amount. I
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think football players get caught up in basketball players are
soft and you know therefore that you don't have the
toughness to play in the NFL. I think that's where
the big separation is. Also, training camp will separate the
men from the boys when it comes to basketball players
playing football.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yes, yes, right, I think that football players and football
fans really get blinded by toughness rather than like, you
have to have a certain amount of toughness to lessen
the sport.
Speaker 14 (38:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
You also have to have a certain amount of stamina
to last NBA season that football players probably couldn't either. Yeah,
they play seven seconds at a time.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
I disagree on the on the technique thing because basketball players, yes,
you need shooting skill and definitely knowing the game, but
basketball is free flowing and it's a constant movement. Because
of the short burst of the NFL, you have to
have spotless technique as hand placement and foot placement. As
an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, like defensive backs
have to have moments of turning and vision that I do.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Do you think it takes more skill to play football
than does basketball?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I do, because it's positioned by position, and each position
I think half most of their practices about technique, like
especially defensive linemen, like bowl rush versus chopping at people
or a swim move. I think you have to have,
you know, numerous moves at each position, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You only have to master your position. You have your
own little world. Basketball is up and down the floor. Yeah,
you have to be all of a sudden on Garden Lebron.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Yeah, you have to be more versatile in basketball.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I agree with that, but I think tech technique is
just as important and more important to my opinion in football.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, set Yeah, I think I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But if you look at the technique we're talking about,
it's like hand placement and turning, Like you have to
be able to turn appropriately, Okay, I mean everybody twists
and turns and hand placement is appropriate in every sport.
This is just much more specialized, localized, and it's a
smaller portion of There's only so many ways that a
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edge rusher can get a round alignment. It's going to
be a swim move, it's going to be a spin,
it's going to be a bull rush, and then you
prepare for those three things.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, I think being a basketball player, I mean those
are incredible athletes to do what they do. You know,
a big guy in the NFL, he's six four three hundred.
A big guy in the NBA, he's seven to four
seven and eighty pounds. Like, that's a big guy in
the NBA. In the NFL, Man, that dude's big. How
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big is he? He's six to two to three hundred? Okay,
he's wide, yes, man.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Like Miles Garrett and Steph Curry are the same height. Like,
what's miles?
Speaker 5 (41:06):
But if we did, like if we did some type
of combine with Miles Garrett and Anthony Edwards speed, jumping, ability, strength,
I think Miles Garret would smoke any NBA player like
athleticism of different.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Uh yeah, But if we take the totality of the leagues,
then I think it would be different. Maybe maybe we're
only taking one versus one. Final hour on the way,
more phone calls coming up.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two on.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
This Wednesday, Dan and the Dant's Dan Patrick Show. Come
on in stay awhile, Fritzie Seaton, Marv Pauli, yours truly.
Pacers next game two tonight. PACER's getting four and a half.
The over under for Jalen Brunson is thirty seven and
a half. Wow. Celtics trolled the Cavs thunder over the MAVs.
Both are up one game to none. Bruins Panthers tonight
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and the Oilers and the Canucks. We'll get phone calls
coming up our two. Mike Breen, voice of the Knicks,
voice of the NBA for the Mothership, will stop by.
And Steve Javi, former NBA official By the way, I
think Steve Javi was the official for Michael Jordan's last
game ever. So we'll talk to him coming up a
(00:50):
little bit. Get his thoughts on the officiating the last
two minutes, where you know, full transparency with the NBA
and here we made all of our mistakes and you
know we're here to bow down to you and say
we're sorry, we hope to be better next time. I
want to ask him what is this supposed to accomplish?
(01:11):
And is it accomplishing what the NBA hopes it's supposed to,
and that is full transparency. Here's our mistakes, because if
you want full transparency, then how about the entire game.
So we'll talk to Steve Javvy a little bit later
on as well. Age seven seven to three DP show.
If you call up, please wish Tyler a happy birthday.
(01:31):
Just turned thirty three. Our good buddy in there taking
your phone calls. Also, we have a whole question Seaton
for hour two. Is that different than hour one? We
had a couple on hour one.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, let me update you there. Hour one we ended
up going with was that suspension or excuse me, was
the fine for Jamal Murray enough or should it have
included a suspension? Okay, right now, seventy three percent of
the audience say it needed a suspension.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I think it's fair. Yeah, I do. I think it
needed a suspension as well. I'm glad he's playing Friday Night.
You want the stars to play. But you know that
this is where the commissioner has to look at this
and say, I don't care who did it, somebody is
going to get suspended here and it's Jamal Murray. But
that's the frustration that Minnesota has provided Denver. I mean,
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these are the defending champs, and you would have thought
they were, you know, a young upstart the way they
reacted to not getting calls.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes see, it is odd that it's a team that's
been there. That's I mean, right, like you said, they're
the defending champions, that they unraveled mentally, Yeah, it felt
like so quickly right in front of you, or so
extremely maybe yeah, I mean Michael Malone runs out on
the court, doesn't get teed up for that, Jamal Murray frustrated,
throwing two things on the floor.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And now you have Friday night in Minnesota. We'll get
phone calls coming up eight seven to seven three DP
show great action though last night with hockey with the
Rangers over the Hurricanes and the Avalanche over the Stars,
Rangers and Hurricane in double overtime. There was something that
I reported to you a couple of weeks ago. My
NFL source said, we were talking about Kirk Cousins, Michael
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Pennix Junior, and my source said, here's something to keep
an eye on, and that is the off season workouts
for the Falcons with Michael Pennix junior because Kirk Cousins
won't be able to play. And then you get to
the preseason, and then is Michael Pennix getting most of
the reps here? And my source said, the following players
know before anybody else knows if you can play. Those
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players are going to see Michael Pennix. And if Michael
Pennix is as good as advertised, now all of a sudden,
they're seeing him and they're going, he gives us a
better chance at winning than maybe Kirk Cousins does. That's
when you have a locker room that gets split. That's
where you have a coaching staff trying to put out fires.
That's where you have ownership going, did we make the
(03:53):
right call here? Now? You want to draft Michael Pennix junior?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Adam Schefter came out yesterday and talked about this and
basically echoed, you know what I said that Michael Pennix,
if he's going to get all these reps and get
into you know, preseason, maybe he's going to show you
that the timeframe has moved up on Kirk Cousins. Keep
this in mind. With Kirk Cousins, I know he's surprised, shocked,
probably disappointed that they drafted Michael Pennox junior. Kirk Cousins
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was told the Vikings were going to draft a quarterback
as well, so he can't be surprised they were going
to get a quarterback and probably getting JJ McCarthy. That's
part of the reason why I wanted out. So he
goes to Atlanta, gets his three year deal one hundred
million dollars guaranteed. They don't tell him that they're drafting
a quarterback. Maybe they hint at it, then they draft
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a quarterback. First of all, I wouldn't have brought in
Kirk Cousins at this age, coming off of this injury.
And if you and if you're bringing him in, why
am I going to lock him up for three years
one hundred million dollars guaranteed. If I'm drafting Michael Pennox,
who's our ready twenty four, and I'm using the timeframe
of three to four years, that doesn't make any sense.
(05:07):
I wouldn't have brought in kirk Cousins. And if I did,
I would have brought him in and said, look, we're
going to draft a quarterback as well. Your first year
is guaranteed. You want to guarantee the first two years,
but I don't want any more than that. And then
if you do take Michael Pennock's Okay, I at least
understand it. And this has nothing to do with Michael
Pennix because I like him, but I don't like the situation.
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Because Pennix is going to get there. He's going to
be your starter. He's going to get all the reps.
The players are going to go, damn. He's got a
strong arn't man. I mean this when Justin Herbert went
to the Chargers granted what was hei the fifth pick
overall those players. If you watch Hard Knocks, you can
see them in real time go damn. That's different. Now
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they're not bringing in a Kirk Cousins in that situation,
but you brought in Kirk at his age coming off
the Achilles. He's not going to be starting in the
OTAs probably in the preseason, and Michael Penix has a chance.
I'm not saying stealing this, but he's going to get
in there and ingratiate himself with his teammates. That's where
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it gets dangerous because when Kirk struggles, you're going to
have players whispering. You know, put in Pennis. I don't
want a three or four year time frame for him.
I'm going to give you two years at most that
Michael Pennis will be the starting quarterback for the Falcons. Yeah,
poem based off that.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
But can't you see even if Michael Penicks is fantastic
and OTAs in camp, that management and ownership says it's
Kirk Cousins and we're not going to listen to the
players from a perception standpoint. Can you imagine the fans response,
Like you can almost compare it and not compare it
to Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn with the Seahawks. But
they didn't invest a zillion dollars in Matt Flynn, but
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everyone thought he would be the starter. It feels like
it's Kirk Cousin's job until they're definitely of the playoffs.
And that's a division where you're never out of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's a division to win. I'm just
going by if I apply logic, which is rare in
this business, but I'm gonna apply logic. I didn't want
Kirk Cousins at that price for those many years coming
off that injury at his age. Just start there. Now,
you're gonna draft Pennix, Okay, I'm not waiting four years
for Michael Pennix. Hey, that's I want to use his
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rookie contract. Yes, I'm going to eat some money. I'm
going to give Kirk Cousins two years. Even if Kurt
Kirk Cousins plays well in those two years, I might
look at, you know, trying to unload him. You know,
maybe towards the end of his career, does somebody want him, maybe,
you know, at a better price. But I if I'm
thinking about the future of the franchise, the future could
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be a lot sooner than three or four years. Now.
This is just based off my source, and he's the
one that told me a couple of weeks ago. Schefty
just brought this up and echoed the same thing what
I'm telling you.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Yes, Mark, the Falcons GM put himself automatically on the
hot seat when he decided to draft Panics and explain
to Arthur Blank why they were drafting Michael Pennis.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I guess Arthur Blank is on board with all of this.
But if I'm looking at the war room on draft night,
it certainly seemed like the GM was trying to explain
to the owner exactly what they were doing. Now that
doesn't mean hey, I don't get it. Oh now I
get it. Okay, I'm fine with this. I'm not drafting
a quarterback for four years down the road or three
years down the road at the number eight position. If
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you said I got him in the second round, okay,
I'll wait a little bit. But in the NFL, they
don't wait that long. And that's why I think Atlanta
I would be really surprised if Kirk Cousins is the
quarterback in his third year there. Now, let's say he's
healthy and he's going to give you good numbers. But
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you're drafting Michael Pennix because you think that he can
give you something a little more than what Kirk Cousins,
because if not, you would just keep Kirk Cousins in there.
He's not a guy who relies on his legs. He
doesn't have a particularly strong arm, he knows how to
play the position. Well, you're drafting Michael Pennix because he's
somebody a little bit different. But the fact that Chefty
(09:13):
came out and said this yesterday, I wanted to reiterate
what was said, and that is Michael Pennock's going to
get there, have the first team reps, and he's going
to have everybody's attention there. What could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yes, Paul, it is weird now that the draft is
over for a little bit. I don't like the I
didn't like the draft pick by the Falcons, but I
love the state of the Falcons. If you look at
the division, they were seven and nine and they missed
a playoff game by two games with Desmond Ritter, and
they went to Kirk Cousins with optimal conditions and some health.
They've drastically upgraded their quarterback. I mean, Cousins may not
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have to do a lot of heavy lifting to get
them to ten wins and get them into a playoffs. Yeah,
and you may be in a position where you could
sit Michael PENNOCKX for a year or two.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They're talking three or four. Yeah, you don't drive somebody
in the top ten where you go, you know, he's
a project. Three or four years. Doesn't happen?
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Yeah, it seems like two of the master doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Doesn't happen. By the way, Joe Burrow, he's coming back
from his wrist injury and got a new hairdo.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Well, it's very swoopy. Well, maybe just had a bad
hair dab. It's a very late early nineties.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Here's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
This has definitely been one of the most challenging parts
of my life for the last several months. But we're
getting through it and continuing to improve mentally and physically
every day. So it's definitely a challenge and a process.
I'm going to be smart about it. You know, if
I need a break, I need a break the wrist.
Maybe he's going to hurt sometimes, and I'm going to
be honest and with myself about how my body's feeling.
(10:49):
Maybe a little more cautious than I have been in
years past.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Okay, Yeah, needs to be wrist injury. That's certainly tricky.
But PAULI was more bothered by the hair a little bit,
a little bit more of a he just get it
shaped up.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Yeah, but it's it's off season.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, but he's still Joe Burrow. I mean he can
still walk in with swag. By the way, did you
see Shay Gilgis Alexander with what he was wearing last night?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Wor the's original color?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Was that was that scotch, like a butterscotch butterscotch I
get and you can only wear that one time? Right,
that's that's like borrowed though, right. You don't think that's
his I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I feel like I feel like a stylist or a
designer or somebody is like, hey, wear this for us
tonight and then just give it back to us. Okay,
I think it's I think it's either rented or borrowed
or I don't think he owns that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
But that's butterscotch leather.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Yeah, and it's not just the suit.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
It's butterscotch leather shirt, tie, jacket, shoulder bag pants.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But it's not like you can go, hey, I'm gonna
bring that out next series. You can't do that. It's
too much of a statement there. Yes time, and he's
got a buttery smooth game.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
So why not?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Thank you? Thank you, Tom? Do you just get here?
I just got a couple of minutes ago, all right,
stuck in traffic. You guest three guest Wednesday, Fritzy, Yeah, kid.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Who's coming on tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Merchandise Crappensburg State golf t shirts or golf shirts. I
should say located in the DP show Pro Shop, the
pro Shop it's golf, Yeah, pro shop golf. Uh and
uh Dead Dad's Club shot glasses.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
The first time you drink out of them.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's tough. You're gonna be toasting to dad. But then
after that you'll be like, hey, hey, come on, let's
get the dead Dad's club shotguns.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Think about how many more times you'll toast dad now
that you have the DDC shot glass.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
And buy a set of two, one for you, one
for your dead dad who's not actually there to drink.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, you know, your dad's toast. So you come on.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
We can say that.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I can say that, I can say that.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
You can't say that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You're not allowed to say it. Marv's dad is just
dad to him.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I was gonna go completely away from that and just
compliment you guys on the Ken Griffy Junior shirt.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Ooh it's a great have you sure?
Speaker 6 (13:11):
Beautiful?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
The color? Yeah, it says the kid on it. So
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Marvin in Texas, Marvin, good morning, what's on your mind today? Morning? DP?
How you doing great?
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Bud say, first of a long time? Five eleven one
two so be the NBA thinks with the a two
minute report that they deemed it, that's the most critical
part of the game. And in that two minutes they
had five miss calls. Yeah, I'm not good at maths,
but that's something they're missing. Thirty calls a quarter, one
hundred and twenty a game. So instead of this pointless
(13:46):
two minute report, why can't we get like a Freedom
of Information Act?
Speaker 11 (13:51):
We could get to where we could.
Speaker 10 (13:53):
Get a dialogue between the replay center and the rest.
So really, you know, put the rest if they really
want that Nick's first stelf to serious.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All right, well you good luck with that, Thank you, Marvin. Yeah,
if they missed I think they had. They missed four
of the five calls. The one they got right was
the screen that knocked down the Vincenzo, so they said
they got that one right, but they missed four other ones.
This in the last two minutes. Uh, Kevin in California, Hi, keV,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (14:22):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
Hey.
Speaker 11 (14:24):
Is there a rule I know in college, you know,
coaches to spend players for half a games. You know,
sometimes if they break a team rule in pro sports,
can teams get to or PLAYE get to spend it
for a half a game.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Teams can suspend a player. I'm trying to think the
last time that happened. Somebody just brought this up to me,
that a team suspended a player. It wasn't the league
that did. I don't know. Maybe I can find that,
but I'm trying to go through the rolodex here. Pool
man Z in Florida, Hey pool Man.
Speaker 12 (14:57):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 13 (14:58):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Good sir?
Speaker 12 (15:00):
Just a quick question, poll question. If you were in Minnesota,
would you want Jamal Murray or anyone to be suspended
so that the Denver Nuggets can use that as an
excuse that that's why they lost the series.
Speaker 14 (15:13):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I don't care what the excuse is. If I advance,
I don't care. Have all the excuses you want. You
had Game one and two at home and you got
blown out. You got no excuses. And if that's your excuse,
well Murray didn't get to play in game three, Well
you got to play in game one and two. You
have no excuses there. Let's see Ta in South Dakota. Hey, Ta,
(15:37):
what's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (15:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Good greetings, Dan, How are you good?
Speaker 14 (15:40):
Sir?
Speaker 9 (15:40):
Good? Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Okay, I love the show. Love this sense of humor
when the Dead Clad the DDC TES first came out.
I got when I showed the teas to my kids.
I had three sons and one daughter still have. They
asked what I stood for.
Speaker 13 (15:57):
I told them they was a little shock, laughter and
then groans, and then I told him I was looking
forward to the time and uh the honor when they
could too become members of the Dead.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Okay, pre order, Now do we pre ordered your dad
Dad's Club?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Would you like to pre order some T shirt on
we just hung up on him.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Or or.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Or he's in the club. We're in the club, all right. Well,
t a if your kids would like to order Dead
Dad's Club t shirts and we'll be happy to act.
Or shot glasses as well.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Maybe a pre ordered discount, like if you know it's coming.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So we got shot glasses and uh they're available toast dad. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
See like if you join, if you pre order and
then join the club before you get your order, it's free.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
During shipping.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, Like if it's in transit, you just send us
a certificate and.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Your death certificate. Right, Well, we'll refund you. Mike Breen
set to join us coming up Voice of the NIGS,
Voice of the Mothership with the NBA playoffs, and we'll
take a break.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
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Speaker 16 (17:29):
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We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell
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Speaker 7 (17:49):
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Speaker 2 (17:59):
Former NBA player Austin Rivers said on the Pat McAfee
Show that there's thirty NBA players who could play in
the NFL. We'll have that topic coming up here in
a little bit eight seven seven three DP show email address,
Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. He is
the popular Mike Breen ESPN play by play commentator also
(18:21):
for ABC. Does the Knicks play by play. You'll be
on the call tonight Game three, that'll be uh Nicks
in the piecers. Oh no, you're gonna be on the
call for Friday night. You get to watch again. You
don't have to work tonight. Is that what's going on
here in the Breen household?
Speaker 17 (18:37):
You just had me extremely nervous that I was tonight.
What I forget?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
What is it like though, to watch the Knicks when
you're normally calling the Knicks, but you're just a fan
watching them?
Speaker 17 (18:51):
Well, for me, Dan, I get to watch the games
with my kids, which never happens, and tonight is would
be my wife's birthday, so she wants to go to
the game. So I think in all the years I've
done this, I don't think I've ever sat next to
my wife watching an NBA game. So it's a first
(19:11):
and it's kind of a treat watching with it because
I never get to do it.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
So it's going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
When you're calling a game and the Knicks aren't involved
in it, it's probably easy to be right down the middle.
How is it? What do you fight when you're calling
the Knicks games and it's you know, on National TV?
Speaker 17 (19:28):
Yeah, I've done it so much over the years that
it just becomes another game in terms of having to work.
I think when I first started doing it back in
the nineties, and it was some of those great Knicks
Pacer games, you know, you had to focus, like, hey,
make sure you you're as fired up for a great
Pacers play as you are for a great Knicks play.
(19:50):
But I actually found it it wasn't hard to do.
You just kind of get You're caught up in your job.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
You have so many.
Speaker 17 (19:55):
Responsibilities and things to do, so it hasn't been a.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Problem for I look back on the reaction, whether it
was in print or on TV shows or radio shows,
when the Knicks got Jalen Brunson, and it felt like
it was a universal underwhelming reaction from the audience. Here,
what was your reaction when you realize that was the
next big off season acquisition.
Speaker 17 (20:21):
Loved them when he was in Dallas, thought it was
a terrific pickup, had no idea that he would reach
this level. I don't think his dad thought he would
reach this level. It's been one of the greatest sensions
that I've ever seen in terms of, you know, good
solid player can help a team win to being one
of the best players in the NBA. It's a remarkable story,
(20:44):
especially when you think of all that goes back to
the history of it. I mean, Leon Rose was Rick
Brunson's agent. Rick was his first client. He's known Jalen
since he was a kid. He's his godfather. And here
the three of them are all in the midst of
one of the best runs that Nick team has had
in many, many years.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
How do you explain Brunson's greatness?
Speaker 17 (21:08):
Well, Number one, it's I know what everybody says it
it's the most incredible work ethic he could ever see.
All these movements he has with the footwork, and he's
his footwork.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
Is as good as anybody.
Speaker 17 (21:19):
He practices them all the time. He's in the gym
all the time. He does everything from working on his
game to getting proper rest to eating the right way.
He's just he's so driven to be the best player
he can be. Now, you know, I said when he
came in, and I've said this about some others as well,
I don't know what his potential is, but the one
(21:42):
guarantee that I have is that he will reach that potential.
That's the kind of work ethic he has.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
What about the supporting cast That's always been my big
question mark of who is the consistent second or third
option for this team.
Speaker 17 (21:57):
Well, they've taken turns, DiVincenzo has kind of taking the
lead on a lot of games, and you know, like
you look at what they've done so far in the
playoffs and what Bruns's numbers are just.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
It's off the charts and historic.
Speaker 17 (22:12):
But the three biggest shots of their playoff run two
Vy Devincenzo Game two in the first series, Game one
the other night, and Josh Hart the three pointer in
Game six against Philadelphia. It's also you know, shows you
how Brunts and his team first, that he's willing to
give up at the ball at the biggest moment and
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that these guys aren't afraid.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
To take it.
Speaker 17 (22:34):
But with this team dan it, you know, we tend
to forget because we so focus on the stars, and
the stars are amazing and isolation basketball and the ability
to get your own shot. It's still and always will
be five guys or five girls playing together and being
able to outwork talent because of you know, the sum
of their parts. And I think this team is an
(22:56):
unbelievable example of that. We've seen over the years teams
that have a lot of talent, littered with talent, they
don't win anything. It's still about connection on the court
with five players, and they work so well together. And
for me that's been the most fun watching them is
because they really are a connective team.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Explain to me the value of the last two minutes
where the NBA gives you full transparency. What is it
supposed to accomplish and is.
Speaker 17 (23:24):
It I don't think it has any value anymore. When
it first came out, I thought, Okay, this will be interesting.
You get to see and they check and they want transparency,
and you like that. It's a good thing to have.
But I think it's outlived it's worth because all it
does is get people upset. If you and I sat
down and we watched say, the eighty five Finals with
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the Lakers and the Celtics, I guarantee you every single
one of those games, in the last two minutes, they'll
be three or four missed calls or incorrect note calls
or whatever the way they phrase it. It's happened all
the time now because we have replayed now because as
we know, with television, there's so many more cameras focusing
on every little thing. Now that we have social media,
(24:08):
it's a huge thing, and it is and it's important
and they have to get these calls right at the.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
End of games.
Speaker 17 (24:12):
But this has been going on for decades in the NBA.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
It is part of it.
Speaker 17 (24:17):
The officials, like coaches and players, are human and they
make mistakes as well.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'm talking to Mike Breen. He won't be on the
call tonight, he gets the night off again, but he'll
be on the call on Friday night. It'll be the
Knicks and the Pacers. So Reggie Miller's in the building tonight.
How do you think he'll How would the fans react
to Rich I think they'll.
Speaker 17 (24:38):
Ras them as much as they can, but I think
for most of them, certainly can't speak for all.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
For most of them, they'll do it out of.
Speaker 17 (24:45):
Fun and respect, because as much as he destroyed their
lives on numerous occasions, I think they respect what a
great competitor he was and you know, bring back memories
of back in the nineties, which still overall or.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Great memories for Nick fans. But he's going to hear it.
Speaker 17 (25:03):
I'm sure Regie will play it up as well.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'm wondering, as much as we criticized James Dolan, is
anybody giving James Dolan credit that they're they're playing well.
This a good team, a cohesive team that you know,
we had no problem criticizing him before the way he
ran the team. I'm wondering if anybody has given him
credit for where this team is now.
Speaker 17 (25:25):
Yeah, I've seen some credit for him. And part of
it with this group is, you know, he hired a
guy in Leon Rose who never had this position before.
And what he's done in terms of patience, which is
hard to do in New York as we know, I
think has been extraordinary. He's not tried to hit the
(25:46):
Grand slamd home run. He's tried to build a team
to show what we're what we're seeing a team that
plays well together. So he banked on Jamon Brunson being
the guy. Now he's putting the players around him that
will enhance Jamn brunts and who can enhance them as well.
Tom Thibodeau was not the most popular choice, as much
as he is one of the elite coaches in the game,
(26:08):
but people wanted a fresh face he was going to
get last season in December. I'm convinced that he may
have been fired if they didn't win a game in
December against Cleveland. But Leon Roch showed patients there because
it does take time. It takes time for players to connect,
to take time for players and coaches, and in today's
(26:29):
sports world, dand the front office and the coaching staff.
What a difference when they're on the same page. And
I think that the patients from ownership to the front
office to the coaching staff is a big reason why
they're succeeding.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
When do you get the sheet of the celebrities who
will be at the game?
Speaker 17 (26:46):
Oh, I need to have it the night before. I
usually get a little bit before the game. It's to
be it's going to be a long list, and there's
always at least two or three.
Speaker 9 (26:59):
I have no idea who.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
They are, Okay, but do you ask? Do you ask
your kids? Like you know, who is bad Bunny?
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (27:08):
Yeah, Bad Bunny was one that I that I had
to and i'mbarrassed to say that, but that's it, and
my kids are the best resource for it. There's always
somebody in the truck who knows exactly who they are
and tells me exactly how to how to say who
they are.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Great to talk to you. Once again, Mike is not
working tonight. He is going to be working on Friday night.
Speaker 17 (27:29):
I love the color of your sweatshirt, by the.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Way, thank you, thank you. It's uh. Is there any
team that comes Maybe the old Atlanta Hawks with Pete Maravitch,
didn't they have a little bit of lime green in it?
Or Seahawks Seahawks color rush.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
There you go. Okay, I like that, not the Hawks,
but that's nice.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Once again, Mike Green not working tonight because it's his
wife's birthday and he gets to sit next to her
and cheer yay go, nixt go, Thank you Mike. That's
Mike Breen. He'll be on the call Friday night and
it'll be Pacers in the Knicks, and then Sunday afternoon
that'll be on ABC. So he'll be busy coming up
(28:10):
over the weekend. Brine's been doing it a long long time,
and I remember when he started with the NBA Finals
and not a lot of people knew him because he
was in New York. He also did the news on
Don Imus's show in the morning. I think had fun
with that, but also doing the Knicks in great sense
of humor. A couple of phone calls in here. By
(28:33):
the way, we'll have a story where Austin Rivers was
on Pat McAfee yesterday and he was talking about how
there's at least thirty NBA players who could play in
the NFL, but nobody in the NFL who could play
in the NBA. Will have our opinions on that coming up.
Let me see. By the way, we've also come up
(28:53):
with a new T shirt idea. Maybe it was a
member of the audience. So there's the Dead Dad's Club,
but then there's also the Divorce Dad Club as well.
Looking for another DDC because there's also the Dead Dog Club,
which is now we have the Divorced Dad's Club DDC.
We might need to trademark that.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, just the letters and then under all of these
different uses.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Pierre in California, Hi Pierre, what's on your mind?
Speaker 14 (29:21):
Hey DP, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
Appreciate it first time.
Speaker 17 (29:26):
Long time five to seven, six or four.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
On the hoops court?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, get up?
Speaker 9 (29:32):
What's up?
Speaker 14 (29:33):
So I was thinking about this whole DDC as an
official member of the DDC. I was thinking about Marvin
and how maybe we could do.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
At new T shirt idea, the dad to Me Dad's club.
It's a little wordy, but the dead dad to Me club.
C e yeah to me club. Yeah yeah, I don't know.
(30:02):
I don't know how many of those T shirts we
would say, but.
Speaker 18 (30:04):
It would just be blank. Oh wasn't there? Ye have
Itt Bridget was there? Oh she was, yeah, Yeah, it's
all you need. Your mom did a great job. Yes,
me too, Yes, she did a great job. Let me
see Bill in Texas. Hi, Bill, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
Hey? Danny? Uh quick? NBA? And then a Fritzy comment.
Speaker 19 (30:31):
Okay, the collabor of the NBA to think that the
last two minutes should be reviewed by the referees when
guys and gals are losing points at the end of
the first quarter, second third, and third quarter for over
unders and points.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
Spreads and everything else. It's just silly. If you're gonna
go into bed with Vegas, you got to the games
as up and up as you can.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I agree, Yeah, I agree? Yeah, what else? Bill?
Speaker 11 (30:56):
And my thought on Fritzy is that I would I
would equate him to Reggie Jackson of the Dan Patcha show.
There's times he's striking out and cork screwing himself into
the ground, and other times he's hitting three home runs
on three pitches and raising the show to new heights.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, all right, so Todd is mister October you might
be like Adam Dunn, Yeah, you're gonna hit a home run?
Or are you gonna strike out?
Speaker 7 (31:24):
That's a lot of strikeouts. I believe that.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, but I think he hit four hundred fifty home runs.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
I could live with that.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You're not Reggie Jackson. You're not, I mean Reggie Jackson,
the NBA player, but not Miss Struck was born in October. Yeah, yeah,
ten ten, ten, same birthdays, Ben bet Farv Yeah and
ten sixty nine. Thank you.
Speaker 17 (31:43):
Ten.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Uh. Let's see Tommy in Wisconsin. Hi Tommy, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 14 (31:49):
Hey Dan, thanks for the voicemail. Getting back to you
on the whole NBA officiating reviewing it. By the way, Fritz,
that's a bulk. But when it comes to the NBA
refrishat you know, refreshing looking at things. Is that something
that you guys should do on your show? You do
the what we've learned. How about the whole transparency at
the end of the show, where you kind of standing.
(32:11):
You know, you make mistakes, not that there's one, damn
it that makes I don't know a lot of mistakes.
But is that transparency something you guys are.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Gonna have, No, Tommy, we do it in real time.
I mean, it's not like the official walks over to
the broadcaster and says, uh, by the way, we made
a mistake there. They don't do that. We do that.
If we make a mistake, we tell you we made
a mistake. It's in real time. And usually if Todd
has a bad joke, then we say in real time
and that's a bad joke time. Todd doesn't admit it.
(32:39):
I will never admit yes, but we do.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Luckily, he's got the four of us to constantly remind
him of every slightest misstep.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, it's very helpful.
Speaker 15 (32:47):
It's good for the therapy.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But you would think that with all of this, you know,
all of these people helping you, that you would be
even better, stronger.
Speaker 15 (32:55):
You would think of Nikki Ei the tougher, or you
sink down to a lower level and just need that
much more.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Money, or you wouldn't make the same mistakes over and
over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's the real question is that people here helping him
helping is an interesting Are we helping him to get
better or helping him into his own demise?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
M can't really tell. Sometimes very fair quick time to
take a break back after.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
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Speaker 2 (33:25):
Mike breen followed up with Fritzie and said, sorry for
being boring on his appearance. Hey one, I was hoping
for something where he'd go bang bang. I should have
done that, maybe gotten a bang out of Breenie.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Austin Rivers, former NBA player, He was on Pat McAfee
yesterday and took issue with McAfee for calling basketball a
soft sport, and they discussed Pat Riley labeling Tyler Hero
fragile for being constantly hurt. Do we have the sound
(34:01):
of Austin Rivers here at least a portion where the
best athletes in the world are that's us.
Speaker 14 (34:07):
I could take thirty players right down in the NBA
and throw them in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You cannot take thirty NFL players to put him in
the NBA. Whoa five on the court.
Speaker 16 (34:16):
Let's just you get a break every play.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I gotta just catch the ball and run from the
north or south. It ain't like our sports better.
Speaker 20 (34:24):
Our sport's better because we would just create a position
for one of you five to forty run in six
foot ten guys and just put them you know, can't
get hit much fragile.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
All right, Okay, do we think he's being serious here?
Like it? It felt like maybe he was having a
little bit of fun, and then he got a little
more serious about this. You know, Pat Rowley was talking
about now he had glowing things to say about Tyler Hero,
but he also said, you know, he gets banged up,
he's fragile. Well, Tyler Hero has a hard time playing
(34:58):
more than sixty games. And I think that's what he used,
the word fragile, which I was surprised at.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yes, it is funny to hear Pat mcafeebe like, you
guys are soft because you just get hit as a
punter as a punter.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
But he was on the field, so all right, you'll
give him that. All right, So he can take thirty
players right now in the NBA and throw them into
the NFL. You can't take thirty NFL players and put
them into the NBA. Paulie, I'll start with you.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
I think he's mostly wrong. Austin Rivers.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
I think there's a bunch of NFL players who could
work into the NBA, and I think vice versa. I
think there's some NBA players if they got their stuff together.
But I think NFL is underrated for how much technique
there is position by position.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
I don't know if it's the same in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
One thing I know is NFL players could play eighty
games in the NBA, no problem with the physicality because
it's a collision sport at a context sport. NBA players
could not last a month. I don't think there's any
NBA players that could last a month in the NFL.
Would not make it to be a week four odd.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
What about you? Where do you stand on Austin Rivers?
I could get thirty players in the NBA and they
could play in the NFL. I can roll with that.
Speaker 15 (36:07):
And I also think it's more stamina for you can
go from NFL to NBA. Just there's much more stamina
running back and forth with the NBA that you can
have NFL guys play in the NBA and not vice versas.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
What about you, Seaton. I don't think the number thirty
is right.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
But I think if the real conversation is about like
technical ability and things like that, I think he's absolutely right.
I don't there are lots of that the NFL. To
play football, what you really need are two things toughness
and athleticism. Other than that you need you actually need
very little technical ability to put the ball and somebody
(36:42):
puts it in your hands and then you run with it.
You had your technical ability is how do you cradle
it in your arm? That's what you have to work on.
It's it's not even close to what a NBA player
has to do.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Marvin, I was seeing completely.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I don't think there's five NFL players that could play
like play in the NBA, play in the NBA. I
don't think there's five NFL players.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Okay, well, we've seen players who have played in college.
You know, Tony Gonzales and Tonio Gates. Randy Moss could
have played in the NBA. He could have been a
bench player. I think he was that talented. But as
far as nowadays, yes.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Mark, Antonio Gates and Tony Gozalez were from football. It
started playing basketball or they were from basketball started playing football. Yeah,
so that just Jimmy Graham, Yeah that proves Austin's point. Yeah,
like I played basketball, Okay, I'll just play football.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
They Yeah, well, I think we get caught up in Uh.
You know, you have to have this great technical talent
to play in the NFL. I think you have to
have more technical talent to play in the NBA because
you got to play both ends. You know, the offensive
lineman doesn't all of a sudden go okay, now you
got to play defense. You've got to play both ends
of the floor. The ability to have great footwork, be
(37:57):
able to shoot, handle all of those things. I'm an
offensive lineman, Okay, I gotta have good footwork and I block,
but I'm not going to be tackling anybody.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Now.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
The quarterback, uh, whatever the position. Could Patrick Mahomes play
like he's great at playing quarterback? Could that translate into
playing in the NBA? Alan Iverson? Alan Iverson could have
played in the NFL in my opinion, And you know,
Michael Vick even said that's how talented that he was.
So are there thirty players? Maybe not that amount. I
(38:30):
think football players get caught up in basketball players are
soft and you know therefore that you don't have the
toughness to play in the NFL. I think that's where
the big separation is. Also, training camp will separate the
men from the boys when it comes to basketball players
playing football.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yes, yes, right, I think that football players and football
fans really get blinded by toughness rather than like, you
have to have a certain amount of toughness to lessen
the sport.
Speaker 14 (38:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
You also have to have a certain amount of stamina
to last NBA season that football players probably couldn't either. Yeah,
they play seven seconds at a time.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
I disagree on the on the technique thing because basketball players, yes,
you need shooting skill and definitely knowing the game, but
basketball is free flowing and it's a constant movement. Because
of the short burst of the NFL, you have to
have spotless technique as hand placement and foot placement. As
an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, like defensive backs
have to have moments of turning and vision that I do.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Do you think it takes more skill to play football
than does basketball?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I do, because it's positioned by position, and each position
I think half most of their practices about technique, like
especially defensive linemen, like bowl rush versus chopping at people
or a swim move. I think you have to have,
you know, numerous moves at each position, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You only have to master your position. You have your
own little world. Basketball is up and down the floor. Yeah,
you have to be all of a sudden on Garden Lebron.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Yeah, you have to be more versatile in basketball.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I agree with that, but I think tech technique is
just as important and more important to my opinion in football.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, set Yeah, I think I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But if you look at the technique we're talking about,
it's like hand placement and turning, Like you have to
be able to turn appropriately, Okay, I mean everybody twists
and turns and hand placement is appropriate in every sport.
This is just much more specialized, localized, and it's a
smaller portion of There's only so many ways that a
(40:28):
edge rusher can get a round alignment. It's going to
be a swim move, it's going to be a spin,
it's going to be a bull rush, and then you
prepare for those three things.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, I think being a basketball player, I mean those
are incredible athletes to do what they do. You know,
a big guy in the NFL, he's six four three hundred.
A big guy in the NBA, he's seven to four
seven and eighty pounds. Like, that's a big guy in
the NBA. In the NFL, Man, that dude's big. How
(40:56):
big is he? He's six to two to three hundred? Okay,
he's wide, yes, man.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Like Miles Garrett and Steph Curry are the same height. Like,
what's miles?
Speaker 5 (41:06):
But if we did, like if we did some type
of combine with Miles Garrett and Anthony Edwards speed, jumping, ability, strength,
I think Miles Garret would smoke any NBA player like
athleticism of different.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Uh yeah, But if we take the totality of the leagues,
then I think it would be different. Maybe maybe we're
only taking one versus one. Final hour on the way,
more phone calls coming up.
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