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Speaking of stats, Josh Allen is twelve and two all
time against the Dolphins. The only other quarterbacks who have
more wins against the Miami Dolphins. One is obvious Tom Brady.
The other one went to the University of Miami Marvin
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twenty four times, Jim Kelly beat them fifteen times, and
uh so Josh Allen now twelve and two.
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tongue of Ioloa. Mike Floria was going to join us.
We'll look at, you know, the bottom line, the harsh
reality of the financial ramifications or what's at stake here
and who's out there that the Miami Dolphins can bring in.
You still have to look at this and you look
at from the football aspect of this. Buffalo dominated the
Miami Dolphins even when two of was healthy. They shut
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down the wide receivers Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddell. I mean
it was a very and Josh Allen didn't do much.
He didn't need to do much. He throws for less
than one hundred and fifty. He rushes for what less
than fifty. James Cook was great with three touchdowns. Defense
played really well. That's the surprising part of this, not
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that Miami lost that game, but how they lost that game.
When Tua was in there and then he goes out.
Skyder Thompson comes in. It's a completely different quarterback style,
and you almost got that feeling that Mike McDaniel said,
you know what, let's shut this down. We don't have
any chance of winning this. We don't want somebody else
to get hurt and alone game, everybody is going to
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have an opinion, a referendum on Tua, what he should do,
what the Dolphins should do. I'm going to let this
play out a little bit here. Let's wait until he's examined.
His head coach Mike McDaniel is holding a press conference
as we speak. We'll check in with the Dolphins coming
up a little bit later on. But Buffalo wins and
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wins comfortably. Tua threw three picks, two were his fault,
the other one wasn't, and then suffered that concussion in
the third quarter. Some of the other games coming up
this weekend, Buccaneers Lions to me is sneaky great, and
I know I got the Lions winning the super Bowl.
I wouldn't be surprised Tampa won this game. The Niners
in the Vikings at the Vikings, the Bengals at the Chiefs,
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Bears Texans. Now, I think it's too soon for the
Bears to be in prime time. Now, you know this
is Sunday night. You want to have Caleb Williams. I'm
just talking about from a performance level, getting ready to
be judged a standalone game. And you know the Texans.
The Texans and Falcons each played sixteen early afternoon games
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last season, tied for most in the NFL. The Bears
played nine early afternoon games, that was tied for sixteenth.
That difference of playing at one o'clock as opposed to
a Sunday night game, younger players, teams aren't used to
being in primetime standalone game. Caleb Williams didn't look good
that first game. The Bears defense won that a couple
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of big plays there. And now you're going against a
Texans team that people have Super Bowl hopes for or
aspirations that they could be a super Bowl quality team.
I'm always curious about that. When you have when do
you normally play like the Cowboys know they're going to
be in primetime. When the Patriots played with Tom Brady,
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they knew they were going to be in primetime. You
geared for that. Now we're creatures that have it, so
these players, you get used to that early game schedule.
Now all of a sudden you got to wait and
then you're playing in primetime and it's a standalone game.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yes, Marvin, that happened when the Jets got Aaron Rodgers.
I'm sure the Jets players, like I guess, we've been
playing in primetime about five or six times this year.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, I just told you the fewest primetime games the
Texans and the Falcons last year. That obviously is changing
with the Texans and the Bears. You know, the Bears
are still a national draw, and you know if they
play the Packers Lions, you know they can be in
primetime or at late afternoon game. Who had the most
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primetime games last year, PAULI.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
I have that for this year this season. I had
the most and the least primetime games scheduled for this season.
There's some flexing that can happen, but on paper now
there's three teams that have six national TV games. I
guarantee you'll name two of them.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm going to guess the Cowboys. Yes, okay, I'm going
to guess the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
No, the Chiefs have five, oh swift backlash for forty nine.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Ers have six? Okay, yes, see for some reason, I
want to say the Jets. The Jets is correct.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Okay, the teams that have five?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, woo whoo sta Okay, all right, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
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who has the fewest primetime games? I'm gonna say Carolina.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
You'd be correct, Okay, Panthers have none primetime games?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
None games? Yes, Marvin, the Patriots have none.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
There are four teams that have one primetime game.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
So Carolina is the only non prime timer. Yep, okay,
I believe they're underdogs in every.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Game this year. Also correct. Yes, I want to say
the Jaguars are probably low on that list.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Oh yeah, Jaguars only have two national television the Titans correct,
Todd Arizona correct.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay? Is there one more? Two more teams? Nobody cares abuk.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
No no offense one Midwest, one East Coast.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Okay, the Giants.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
No, the Patriots are the East coast team. Only one
primetime game. Oh I thought somebody said Patriots Patriots for
zero Patriots the zero guests. Oh oh okay, the Indianapolis
Colts have one prime time.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, there's room for improvement there.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
They can always flex into a game.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
But the good news is nobody can see a stake.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
No, but pole question for hour two is gonna be one.
I didn't even know what the pole question for hour
one was.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
You know what's funny when you think about Indianapolis, it's
way further west than you really think. I was just like, wow,
is Indianapolis really a Midwest city?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, it definitely is. Yes, it's almost by Chicago. Yeah. Good, Yeah,
it's just mid West. It's mid Midwest. Uh, it's west ish.
Where does the Midwest start?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
By the way, when you leave Pennsylvania the Pennsylvania Ohio border.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Is Pittsburgh considered Midwest.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Pittsburgh it's it's its own entity. Pittsburgh is Midwest in
grit and grime, but not in a Midwest state.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think, well, if Pittsburgh isn't, then other parts of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's how big Pennsylvania is Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania is Forever.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
That's their logo that when you that is a long
ass drive across that state.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
When you go through Pennsylvania, it's just God, this is horrible.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
So are we saying that Columbus, Ohio is Midwest city? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Completely, Yeah, it is Cincinnati, Sandusky, Upper Sandusky, Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Pennsylvania is its own entity. It's neither East Coast nor
truly Midwest.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, shout out to Steubenville.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I've been to Steubenville. Yes, I am shot at Shaker Heights. Yeah,
been there, been there as well. Uh, but I'm from
the south. I'm from southwest Ohio.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Southwest, yeah, southwest Ohio state. Yeah, yes, you're a southeast
iam a Southea. I'm southern. Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Missouri is kind of a hybrid state because is it midwest?
Is it bordering a plain state? It's not the South,
but it's south Ish.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Does it feel like it's a Mountain west ish ish
like trying to attach themselves maybe to the Mountain West.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
But then Saint Louis feels very Midwestern.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That it does.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yes, Yes, the heartland of America. Where is the heartland
of America Kansas.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Kansas is the central point of all points oh, the
United States?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Like have you?
Speaker 9 (10:18):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I thought it had to do with the actual heartbeat
of America, not the heart land like.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
I'm more of like a the Midwest starts in Saint
Louis and goes over.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Wait, you're blowing off Ohio. What are you talking about?
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Yeah, it's kind of like it's more western Atlantic than
it is Midwest.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Where do you think I got my Midwest good looks
from Ohio corn fed good looks?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yesshville is not a Midwest No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think I'm ad see, and I think the central
time zone should dictate what the Midwest states are.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
Nashville is significantly further west than Columbus, significantly. That's further
west than Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Okay, but they're southwest. Nashville doesn't want to be Midwest.
They're not selling Midwest. They're selling you know, South.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I'll say Chicago just because they're there. But that's Midway.
Your monsters in the Midway. St.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Louis, Kansas City, Des Moines, Whichita.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
That's the Midwest. That's more real Midwest. Wait, what are
we doing today? What are we doing why it's a
meat Friday all of a sudden, supposed to be sliding
into the weekends. We just take it easy. Why are
we pissing everybody? Oh, you're it's so much fun my
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manhood here. Yes, Paul, it.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Does feel like the Midwest by definition is Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Wait, soho okay, Ohio, I got in there too.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I don't know why I'm fighting for the Midwest,
just like Kansas and Nebraska are not in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Saine state's plain state plans. Nebraska is way out there.
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
It seems like it's but it's it's in the middle
of the country, and it's on the western part of
the middle of the country, thus.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
The mid West West. It's too far west to be
in the Midwest. Yes, Marvin, where's John Cougar Mellencamp from?
Because I thought wherever he's saying about Indiana, that's the
heartland of America.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
He's a hoosier, Southern Indiana guy, southern South central.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
He was born in a small town, gonna die in
a small town, like that's the heart. And sometimes he'll
be sucking on a chili dog outside the tasty freeze.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
God bless him.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Born in Seymour, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah right, the real Midwest, Yeah, said Seaton, Come on
in here, you'll Seeymour, the real Midwest. Yeah, the real Midwest.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Man, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Shots early, shots fired early. By the way, did watch
a movie last Yesterday Afternoon? The Union with Mark Wahlberg
and Halle Berry.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
JK. Simmons is in.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
It as well, Dobbins J Simmons j K Dobbins.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
JK Simmons is a good actor. Yeah, yeah, he is,
but not a great movie.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
The Union.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I wanted to like it. I just didn't. Didn't love it.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So Mark Wahlberg, Halle Berry, Dan Delaney, Yeah she's in it.
Lorraine Brocco he uh yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I have the plot. Mike down to Earth construction Workerman
Wah from Jersey, Okay is thrust into a world of
super spies and secret agents in his high school. Sweetheart
Roxanne recruits him in a high stakes US intelligence.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, halle Berry is Roxy.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
She could recruit me to join any class.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Not a good haircut though, on her.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean, it's do you realize that I did a
conversation with David Justice many many, many many years ago
when he was married to halle Berry, and nobody knew
who halle Berry was. I go to David Justice, who
was playing for the Braves at the time. I go
into his condo and his wife is there, and she's
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obviously gorgeous, and he says he likes to stay up
late to watch Sports Center. And I said to him,
I would miss Sports Center. I would go to bed
earlier if I were. You watch the replay. But nobody
knew who halle Berry was at the time. But David
(14:50):
Justice of the Braves was, I think married to her
at the time.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
She was. She still looks great, No, she still looks great.
You're worried about her hair.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, yeah, you know, it wasn't a flattering haircut, that's all.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yes, she could wear her hair anyway should like. Well.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
The Midwest region of the United States is located between
the Appalachian Mountains. This is just sent to us on
the Twitter, which mine is very active right now. It
is the It's located between the Appalachian Mountains to the
east the Rocky Mountains to the west. The northern border
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is the Canadian border, and the southern border of the
Midwest is the Ohio River.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So that has.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio,
South Dakota. I'm not sure what else is in Wait?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Those are Midwest?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
What wait the Dakotas aren't. No, according to this, there's
Southern Canada.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You've been. I've been up there. You're up there, like
if you got that? That's not mid West? No, why not?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's northern. It's northern West. It's the Great Plains. Where's
John Steinbeck when you need him?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
The Michigan's out. No, we'll include Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Why they're a north too, but they're attached to Ohio
and you know you just wanted to rivalry.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, we do. All right, let me let me take
a break, let me get I got that called the
NFC Midwest, NFC North. Okay. I don't think Montana is
included in the Midwest, right, I don't know?
Speaker 8 (16:41):
That would be Rocky Mountains, so it would the cutoff
would be very clearly there.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Are you through? Not likely? But we ca'stop for now.
But I'm probably gonna keep going.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I gotta return to our regularly scheduled program, all right,
we'll take a break. Mike Florio will get his thoughts
on the Dolphins. Who can they replace Tua? If this
is short term long term? All the salary cap ramifications,
I mean a lot of hard questions are going to
have to be answered in this situation.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
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Speaker 2 (18:04):
Fritzy, who's big on anniversaries, just told me that on
this date in nineteen ninety nine, the Dan Patrick Show
was launched on ESPN Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
How about that. Yeah, so that's pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Maybe it's not hitting me as it showed emotionally. But
were you there when we launched in nineteen ninety nine,
PAULI wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I was not part of the show in ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, Marvin wasn't there, Seton wasn't there. So this is
an anniversary. I guess that I can celebrate and nobody
else and you should.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It's a big deal. Well, thank you, Todd, So anniversary,
thank you, congrats to you, thank you. That's what I
was waiting for. Yeah, congress me, thank you, Marvin all
the best, Thank you cool people for a quarter century.
That's says something urge.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I think. I think though, and look who's talking, Look
who's That's very true. He is Mike Florio, Pro Football
Talk Live co host NBC Football Night in America, Son
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(19:07):
Mike kind enough to join us. Let me start with
the Dolphins with tois situation. Let me ask you about
the possibility of can you bring somebody in to replicate
the offense. If two is not able to play for
a little while, you.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
Know it's not going to be easy to do Dan.
That's one of the things that gets overlooked because they
make it look so easy, the little subtle flip, the
no look this, the misdirection. There was a play last
night like is this some kind of shell game? How
did Waddle end up with the ball? I had to
spin it back and watch it again, and even then
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it's like the ball go So you need somebody who
can do that, or or you need to completely overhaul
the offense and build it up for someone who has
a different skill set. So it's not going to be
easy for them to move go forward without tour for
however long it's going to be one game, no games,
four games rest of the season, who knows. But it's
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going to take some work because we saw the drop
off last night when Skyla Thompson came in.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, they run a different offense, and this offense was
built around to get rid of the ball quickly, not
back seven yards where he can take more hits. And
then you look at the play that he gets hurt on,
like the last person in the NFL who should be
lowering his head is to it and I know he's
going for the first down. Everybody wants to be a hero.
(20:31):
You want to play, you want to be aggressive, you
don't want to be treated differently.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
But now he's down, now he's out.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Can the NFL step in at any point with all
of these concussions with a player, Well.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
I don't know how directly the league can step in
and supersed medical judgment. I could see some winks and nods,
some conversations that never happens, some knowing glances for maybe
doctor Allan Sills, the head of the NFL's medical office,
to doctors. But even then, at the end of the day,
what our doctors comfortable doing. We haven't seen many NFL
(21:06):
players who are told by doctors you cannot continue. We
will not put our name at the bottom of this
piece of paper authorizing you to play, even though you
want to play.
Speaker 12 (21:16):
I think the closest was Javid Best.
Speaker 11 (21:18):
Remember him, the running back from cal who had a
significant concussion injury history at the college level, came to
the NFL. Had a fairly innocuous head hit the ground
while he was falling down. October of twenty eleven never
played again, and we never got a clear answer there.
But that may have been a case of sorry, that's it,
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this is one too many. You're not getting cleared to
play again. That's the only way the tool would be out,
and it could set up a fight.
Speaker 12 (21:47):
Dan.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
If the NFL says you're never allowed to play again,
he can go find a doctor that says he's fine.
And at what point does the player have the ability
to supersede the NFL's judgment that he had one concussion
too many.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And once again, we're trying to be sensitive. Obviously we
want to her to be able to play, but this
is about the football aspect of this. If Tua can't
play anymore, what are the financial implications for the Dolphins
and Tua?
Speaker 11 (22:18):
And this is a critical question, Dan, and I think
at was glossed over last night by folks who were
throwing out the idea he should just retire.
Speaker 12 (22:26):
There's two different questions here.
Speaker 11 (22:28):
One is he never cleared to play again even if
he wants to play.
Speaker 12 (22:33):
Two, is he cleared to play but chooses not to play.
Speaker 11 (22:37):
If he's never cleared again, he gets over the next
three four years one hundred and sixty seven million dollars
from the Dolphins because that money is guaranteed for injury.
So if the door is slammed from a medical standpoint
by doctors on his ability to play, he gets every
penny of it.
Speaker 12 (22:54):
If he's cleared.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
But he says, you know what, I'm just I'm done.
I know I'm cleared, but I'm retiring that one sixty seven.
That's gone massive financial ramification. So on one hand, it's
not all the time to talk about money, but on
the other hand, it is because this.
Speaker 12 (23:13):
Is one of the major variables.
Speaker 11 (23:14):
You know, he chose to keep going a couple of
years ago after two or actually three concussions in the
twenty twenty two season, without that much money riding on it.
Now it's there, it's gone. If you're cleared by doctors
to play and you retire, that money is gone.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, I mean the pressure to clear him or not
to clear him, and then what Tua decides to do.
I mean, this is a difficult I mean, this is
really by wanting back out there. Yes, but even then
I wouldn't have signed him up long term, talked about
it in the moment. I just you run this risk,
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and even though they have an offense that's geared towards
him getting it out quickly. Here he does lowering his
head into Tomorrow ham I mean I thought he hit
his knee or maybe Tomorrow Hamblin's helmet, and then I realized,
you know, you're just more susceptible to concussions.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And that's.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I can't imagine what that independent doctor is going to,
you know, rule and then what happens after that.
Speaker 11 (24:19):
And let's remember this, Dan, it's independent of the team.
The doctor isn't independent of the broader NFL shield. This
isn't some doctor that you find who has no connection
whatsoever to the National Football League. So at some level,
for the same reason that there were pressures subtly or
(24:40):
otherwise put to bear on doctors when it wasn't independent,
this concern that you've articulated, what does the league want here?
And will there be a way to send that message
We don't.
Speaker 12 (24:52):
Want him to be cleared, or we do want him
to clear it. Who knows.
Speaker 11 (24:55):
But this isn't being cynical, it's being realistic. That person's
on the NFL's payroll. And that's why they have independent
doctors in the first place, because they know the doctors
on the team's payroll will be influenced by what the
team wants. The doctors on the league's payroll will be
influenced by what that doctor believes the league wants.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
He's Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live, co host NBC
Football Night in America. Deshaun Watson's status Now, how would
you describe sort of where he is?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Cleveland Browns are, Well.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
There's one key question. We don't know the answer too,
and I think the fact that I can't get.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
The answer gives me the answer. And it's very simple.
Speaker 11 (25:35):
Did Deshaun Watson disclose to the Browns in signing his
twenty twenty two contract? This claim that was made this week,
because there's a language in there under paragraph forty two
that exempts anything that was communicated to the Browns in
writing by way of claims.
Speaker 12 (25:55):
If this is a new claim that.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
Wasn't disclosed, and if he's suspended, the Browns can avoid
his remaining guarantees and release him. And it's ninety two
million dollars total for twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six.
This is their get out of jail free card. And
I said Monday, before we even knew the lawsuit was coming.
You got to wonder if the Browns just wish something
would fall from the sky and he'd get suspended and
(26:17):
they could tear up those guarantees. And I hope plenty
of Browns fans are hoping that's what happens. And this
is where we have this weird, awkward convergence of real
life issues allegations of sexual assault and football issues.
Speaker 12 (26:30):
Where man, we're really stuck with a bad contract. Is
there a way out of it?
Speaker 11 (26:34):
There's a way these dominoes fall down that will allow
the Browns probably after this season, the way it would
work out from a timeline standpoint, if it all falls
their way, if this is what they want, they can
avoid the ninety two million dollars and move on.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Okay, but you're a lawyer here the timing of this
a Monday after a bad performance, it becomes public, like,
I don't know how long this has been in the
works here, and was if somebody fed information to then
reveal information to then all of a sudden to have
a ground swell and now we have a story.
Speaker 11 (27:07):
The lawsuit alleges there was an effort to settle the
case before it was filed. I think there would be
a discrepancy between the two camps as to how earnest
and effort and real an effort was made to try
to settle the case. But you know, Dan, anybody that
understands the potential contractual ramifications realizes, hey, there's a lot
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of extra settlement value if this is something that would
ignite a chain of events that would cost Deshaun Watson
ninety two million dollars on top of whatever this lawsuit
could cost by way of a verdict in court. So
there's a lot of leverage here. And even though the
case has been filed, the plaintiff has a lot of
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leverage because and again this all feels unseemly, but this
is how the legal system works. If Deshaun Watson goes
to this individual now through their lawyers and offers a
significant amount of money, and part of that agreement would
include the person saying I'm not going to cooperate with
the NFL. The NFL has no power to compel cooperation.
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That possibility of the ninety two million dollars going away
get short circuited before it ever gets started. So you
got to ask yourself, and this is a business transaction,
set us set aside the facts, set aside the history.
From a business standpoint, if you can slam the door
on losing ninety two million dollars, how much are you
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willing to pay to slam that door as a straight
simple business proposition. So I don't know the number, but
there's a number out there that makes it worth it
to Deshaun Watson and his lawyers to save the ninety
two million.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Before I let you go.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I don't know if it's a large enough sample size
for you, but we did see the running back come
front and center in Week one. Even last night, both
teams had good running attacks. Passing touchdowns are down. Are
you ready to make that declaration that maybe the style
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of football is changing right in front of us.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
Not yet, because we're still in this world where teams
don't have as much time as they used to in
the offseason, they don't have as much time as they
used to in the preseason, and the early weeks of
the regular season are kind of an extension of the preseason.
One of the points Sims makes, and I think this
is valid, watch the teams that use their starters on
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offense in the preseason, and watch the teams that don't,
and the teams that do tend to be more prepared.
Look at the Chiefs, there wasn't any issue about whether
or not they'd get the ball up and down the
field last Thursday night, So that correlation. Are you getting
your guys ready, are you taking full advantage of the
preseason reps?
Speaker 12 (29:54):
And how ready will your passing game be?
Speaker 11 (29:56):
Otherwise it's going to take a little while to get
the timing down and do all the things the NFL
wants to see happen.
Speaker 12 (30:02):
More points, more excitement, more ratings, more money.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
We notice that there's a Michael F. Florio who does
fantasy football, and we were kind of surprised, Like there's
Michael B. Jordan and Michael Jordan, So, I don't know,
is there a trademark on Mike Florio here? Is there
any kind of legal pen you know, something pending.
Speaker 11 (30:28):
I've had people call me and say, hey, congratulations on
your son's job at NFL Network. It's like, first of all,
if you know anything about my relationship with the league,
no one related to me by blood er marriage would
ever be employed by NFL Network. And secondly, that guy
should change his name. Just like PFT comment, there's only
one PFT. Although I've allowed PFT commenter, we have a
(30:52):
loose understanding. I will not send a season assist letter.
I have no such understanding with Michael F. Florio, who
should go by his middle name or change his last name.
That is my official position on that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
See, I thought it was somebody just calling you Michael F.
And Florio, which you've been.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
That's how I'm known at three forty five Park Avenue.
Speaker 12 (31:11):
Have you you're supposed to me?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Tell me? Have you ever had the commissioner on.
Speaker 12 (31:15):
Oh on PFT Live.
Speaker 11 (31:17):
Yeah, years ago when they have something they want to push,
like they're talking points during the lockout, the commissioner is very.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Available and we don't even get that. Mike.
Speaker 11 (31:26):
Yeah, wait till the next lockout, Wait till the next
works now then you.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Will No, No, we're not having him on.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
No. Well, I mean, look, he is a master at
saying something while saying nothing. It's great press conferences, tough question,
word salad, move on to the next question.
Speaker 12 (31:47):
And I'm not being critical. That's exactly what you need
in that job. You need somebody who will stand up.
Speaker 11 (31:52):
There on behalf of the owners, because that's one of
the reasons they pay so much money, the owners can
go hide behind the curtain. He stands up there, he
takes the arrows and he's Superman deflecting those arrows or
whatever superhero. I don't know if there's a superhero flex aeros.
Maybe it's Roder Goodell NFL Commission.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You have a better chance getting Aaron Rodgers on than
I dossion.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
About that on my show.
Speaker 12 (32:13):
He'd have to take a lot of aahuasca dam before
you come on.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Would you be willing to take aahuasca if it meant
Aaron Rodgers would come on the show?
Speaker 12 (32:23):
Yes, sign me up for that.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Fair enough. Have a great weekend. Thank you, Mike. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
That's Mike Floria, Mike efan Florio, Pro Football Talk Live
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Colorado at Colorado State is trash talk right now already.
(33:32):
I know astic in that one. Colorado State is getting
seven in this game. I think they were like twenty
one point underdogs last year and that went down to
the wire.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Well, the game's not played in an Instagram follower, so
we'll see how it goes out on the gridiron WONKWK.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Wasn't that Travis Hunter? And then Henry Blackburn? Oh yeah,
oh yeah, Henry.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
That was the questionable hit.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Then you had analyst who were saying that, you know,
there was a hit out on Travis Hunter, a bounty
out on him, and I'm like uh, and then like
these analysts say these things and then nothing comes, you know,
through to fruition with it, like you just throw it
out there, like, oh yeah, they had a bounty out
on Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
They want revenge in for Collins. That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Thank you, Tod Lsu at South Carolina. Hmm, I'm going
to take South Carolina to win out outright, Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah,
just because I hate to see Darius Rucker crime when
South Carolina loses. The Bucks at the Lions rematch of
last year's divisional und So the Lions have already This
(34:44):
will be two playoff rematches from last year. They played
the Rams and then they played the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I wouldn't be surprised if Baker Mayfield Junior the third
ends up getting the win.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Hottest quarterback in the league, yes he is, Yes, Paul Week.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
One, he was eighty percent passing three hundred yards is
passer rating one forty six led the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Bear's Texans Sunday night first meeting between Caleb Williams and
c J.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Stround.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Okay, okay, well you mean Bengals Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Seating Oh sorry, but the Bears trading the number one
overall pick that Carolina would use on Bryce Young. So
that's when Stroud falls to number two. So the quarterbacks
are loosely connected there. Then it'll be the Kansas City
Chiefs and the Cincinnati Bengals. That'll be a big one
as well.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
Joe Burrow's wrist. I know, I was watching a video
of him trying to pick up the gatory bottle, but
I guess I missed the like really bad part.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
But yeah, they were pointing that out that the wrist
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Speaker 3 (36:04):
I guess I'm a guest picker, but not really because
I'm always on the show. Yeah, here he comes, so
there's different. Yeah, PAULI he.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Got a haircut and shave last week. He looks less
less like he has warrants out for him.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yes, yeah, the oldest looking twenty eight year old is
that's on the warrants do not go away though with
the haircut.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
All right, So you're on the gambling podcast Shay and
Irving and also Bad Larry and you imparted some wisdom yesterday.
Let's just give America a little sample of just how
great you are.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
A smattering of the wisdom. Yes, yes, all.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Right, these are my best bets, okay, according to me.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Now, how much would you bet on these? Because a
lot of people make picks, they don't put money on it.
You put money on it. You and Shae and Irving
and Bad Larry actually put money and lose money on
your pick.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Yes, it's real money, real money that I make here
that I lose, yes, or Dan win? Okay, you can't
win without losing, thank you. So obviously this is a
big week for me with Iowa.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
As you love Iowa in the under.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
I love them so much, and they're playing my nemesis, Troy.
Ok I have a personal vendette against yes you, stemming
back a few years. The under is thirty nine. Iowa
hit the over last week, which that's an anomaly.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
We all know that.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
So taking the under thirty nine, and I'm also taking
the cover twenty two and a half against Troy. Troy
got blown out by Memphis last week and lost outright
as favorites to Nevada week one.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
So I'm up three and a half units, fading.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Troy already this season.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Good for you.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
And I've got Oregon State plus sixteen and a half
at home against Oregon. Oregon's kind of a pedestrian and
they beat them by two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oregon State still covers.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
It's a tough place to play a little interstate rivalry, Dan,
I like it.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
You know who you sound like, you know when they
have the cigarette ad and the lady and the lady
wishes that you didn't smoke like this.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yes, you, you don't have to act like you sound like.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
It'll be like, you know, Dylan, and then your last
name initial, and then it will be like smoker for that.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Kind of phy. Yeah, I just have to put my
hand up to my throat. I don't change the inflection
at all. Okay, continue, all right? And then I got
a couple NFL picks, Dan, uh. So the Ravens open
minus nine against the Raiders now minus eight. I like
them to just beat up on the Raiders. They're kind
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of a mess. So taking the Ravens minus well, I
bet at eight and a half, but it's eight now,
so hop on that. And then the Titans plus three
and a half against the Jets now plus four. I
can't bet on the Jets morally, as Jets is a favorite.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah, I just I.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Can't do it. And the Titans have been able to
run the ball. The Jets defense look terrible against the
forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I like them in that spot.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
It's a funky line for sure, but I'm going to
not try and outsmart myself, right and then all overthink
it one last time. Okay, Yeah, don't overthink. That's the
biggest thing, at least this early in the season, because.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
That's what their last pick is.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
The Iowa and Troy exact score ioda win twenty three
to nothing that pays out sixty five to one.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
That's it for me.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
How about a round of bulls for Jill and the
graphics gun. Yeah, and full time gambler here. I mean,
I think they'll hit, but uh.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Andrew and Washington Andrew try to squeeze you in.
Speaker 9 (39:41):
Good morning, Gandan, It happy meat Friday. Thanks for taking
my call. I do have a small stat of the day,
but just about Tua and the hit. First of all,
Damar Hamlin was a defender. I mean, how does he
feel today? He's already went through this himself in coming
back and you know the person that delivers the hit,
even though Tua took it on, you know, concussions. Maybe
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it's a Washington thing to Josh, and Washington has had
five on paper. I've had five on paper myself, and
a lot of times you'll be fine and then it
takes effect later in life. You're not going to see
it in your thirties and your forties and your fifties.
It might be a quick decline in your sixties. So
just a little thought for him. My stat of the
day is this University Southern Alabama USA USA set a
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school scoring record of eighty seven points to give Major
Applewhite his first victory as a coach.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
All right, thank you, Andrew, Major apple White. Final hour
on the way. An update from the Miami Dolphins. I'll
some more of your phone calls as well. Back after
this