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March 28, 2024 41 mins

Former LSU QB Jayden Daniels had his Pro Day yesterday and Dan Patrick wonders exactly what NFL teams are looking for during these types of events. And Duke hoops legend Christian Laettner drops by to talk about how he’s in the Hall of Fame without ever being elected.

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Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle the DP Show Basketball Tonight Clemson, Arizona,
San Diego State, Yukon, Bama, North Carolina, Illinois and Iowa
State thirteen games Major League Baseball weather permitting. LSU's Jaden
Daniels had his pro day yesterday. Now, there's a couple

(01:22):
of schools of thought with j Jaden Daniels. When he
played at Arizona State under Herm Edwards, he was very thin, exciting, dynamic,
made the highlights, but thin goes to LSU. Seemed to
be a little bit bigger. He's six three, about two ten,
and there's a feel that he's sort of Lamar Jackson

(01:45):
like as far as his build. But I don't see
that because Lamar looks pretty solid and Jaden Daniels still
looks a little thin. Now, this is part of the
knock on him seventeen games schedule, just like Bryce Young. Now,
he's taller than Bryce Young, but canny withstand the riggers
of a seventeen game schedule. I don't know of any

(02:06):
quarterback who can really withstand the riggers of a seventeen
game schedule. It's the style you play is the reason
you can or can't withstand the riggers of an NFL season.
Russell Wilson's done an unbelievable job at his size of
avoiding big hits, whereas I like in Jaden Daniels to

(02:26):
RG three, I think RG three was six ' to
two but slight, and he took on some hits there
and cut short his career. I mean there's other reasons
that factored in, but he had a meteoric rise when
he got in. We had not seen somebody like him,
probably since Michael Vick. But I look at Jaden Daniels,

(02:48):
is he a RG three type? You know, very athletic
and very accurate as a passer and as pro day
Sometimes when you take somebody for granted, like Caleb Williams
has been great, and there were ESPN analysts who came
away and said, Okay, yeah, nothing special. Well, if you're

(03:08):
looking at a beautiful woman and you know she's a
beautiful woman, and then you meet her and you go, yeah, yeah,
I mean she's beautiful. But then if you have somebody
and you go, hey, she is really sneaky good looking,
then you meet him and going you are right, no surprises.
Well maybe with Jaden Daniels you're a little bit more surprised.
Whereas Caleb Williams, you weren't at the pro day and

(03:30):
it felt like some of the analysts were coming back
from that pro day going wow, Now it's not just
how he plays, it's how he answers questions, his personality,
what his teammates say about him. And I think that's
where Jaden Daniels made some impact and imprint on some
of these analysts by how he handled himself. Now you

(03:51):
had people knocking Caleb Williams because he has a pink
cell phone, like, get a grip with reality here. Oh
my gosh, I'd never d a guy who has a
pink cell phone. Okay, good, I'll take him. I don't care.
I mean, Joe Burrow shows up in crazy outfits. Are
you gonna go Nope, I'm not taking him. He has

(04:13):
crazy outfits there. You know, we talk ourselves in and
out of logic. Sometimes you're going, does that make sense?
Jaden Daniels, Kenny withstand the punishment, the rigors of a
seventeen game schedule. If he's smart, then he can can
Caleb Williams. Yes, if he's smart. If you extend a play,

(04:35):
that's one thing. If you're trying to run, because that's
the play that's designed, that's different. Now Josh Allen takes
on Contactchue a tongue of ilo is not taking on contact.
I would expect Jaden Daniels to not take on contact.
Most quarterbacks shouldn't take on contact. Cam Newton could take

(04:55):
on contact, but you know what happened after a while
taking on that contact out of football in his early thirties.
You gotta be smart. It's all be smart. Jayden Daniels
made an impression Malik Neighbors, his wide receiver. He stood out.
You know it's weird. And I liken this too. When

(05:18):
a scout went to watch somebody else playing in a
basketball game and found Jahn Morant, they weren't going to
scout John Morant. They found Ja Morant. Like that guy's
really good over there. Now, Jaden Daniels is going to
be probably the second quarterback taken. But Neighbors, when you
watch him, you're like, I found myself watching him more

(05:42):
than I did Jaden Daniels just because he may be
the first receiver off the board as far as the
number two pick overall. The Commanders and their new head
coach Dan Quinn had this to say.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Somebody thinks they know they're about to fill me in
because Adam and Einem we're not there. Yet so once
we get that's okay, once we do, but let's go
through the whole thing. And that's actually a really fun
part of this to make sure that you don't crush them,
you know, for us, are all these picks. We're going
to add a lot of really good players, add a

(06:17):
lot of positions, so I know, quarterback gets a lot
of the attention, and like as.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
It should, is the story here everywhere.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
But there's a lot of players and the.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Team has been set up in a good space, you know,
with a lot of picks for this year's draft. So
that'll be one of the storylines, but it won't be
the story line.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, let's go around the room. Who thinks the commanders
don't know who they're taking? At number two seaton? You
don't think that they know who they're taking? Not one? Okay,
what percentage would you give me somewhere? But in the

(06:55):
seventy five? Okay, Marvin, I'm what's seeing? Okay? There you go,
we win? Okay, Well, I don't know what the other
side there, Pauli and Fritzie, looks like you think the
commanders know who they're taking.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yes, the first two picks are set.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Four weeks from today? Is in three weeks from today,
four weeks from today, four weeks?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Which one is it? Todd?

Speaker 6 (07:19):
It would be four weeks from today.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Okay, he's a draft whore.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
I know who you're picking.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
Who's more insured, Todd or the Commanders.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
M Todd just had a little slip up in the
last hour though he misheard. He misheard where the All
Star Game was going to be.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
And the NBA All Star Game is in fact at
the Chase Center.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Next year in San Francisco. But we were talking Baseball
Star Game, which would be Arlington? Thank you all right?
I'm looking at the numbers here. Lamar measured six two
two sixteen r G three at the combine six two
two twenty one. Jayden Daniels is six three and a
half to ten a day. Start of a day. This

(08:05):
is the start of the day to you by Panadi America,
the official trading cards of this program. Pole question for
hour two is watch Seaton. Well, we got two of
them up there right now. Dan, We've got.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
I'd most want to have a solid tenure career as
a Major League baseball player, an NBA player, or an
NFL player.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Okay, we're gonna guess here. Okay, now, is money the same?
I don't know, is it. I think we have to
have money. That's kind of the same. Now, No, I
think that goes into it. Well, what position are we
talking about? Oh, my gosh, because am I a quarter

(08:50):
Am I a quarterback?

Speaker 5 (08:51):
It's your pick?

Speaker 8 (08:52):
You have you have a nice NFL career, Okay, Brad Johnson, Okay,
you can.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Be the greatest player in either one of these sports.
You're making great money. Everything is awesome. You have a
monster sneaker deal, you play in the city that you love,
and the taxes aren't too high.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
So I'm the greatest in my sport. Whatever I want
to pick.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
For ten years, you're gonna have a great ten year career,
and in that ten years you are fantastic.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Okay, let's look at average salary if we can, oh
each sport?

Speaker 8 (09:22):
Yeah, okay, average NFL salary two point eight million dollars.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
It's also not.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, but I'm gonna be great in my sport.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
No, You're gonna be good in your sport.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh, Seaton said, I can be the best in my sport.
Now you're gonna go.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
You're gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
The pole questions, say, give a nice career, a nice.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Okay, Okay, let's get examples, though.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
The average salary for an NBA player is about seven
million a year according to this.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, that's not that money. Okay, but let me get
examples here. You can be what NBA player? What NFL player?
And uh what NFL play and what baseball? Yeah, baseball player.
So let's come up with somebody where you go.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
Okay, you can be Darren Sprolls, Darren a very solid
running back, very popular player, not in danger, going to
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
The average MLB salary four point five.

Speaker 9 (10:13):
This is yes, Tobias Harris an NBA like a nice,
solid NBA player, you guys said, good NBA player.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, but he's making thirty million dollars a year.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
So I'd rather be an NBA player.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
Yes, And Jimmy turns into a punchline walking off the field,
Tobias Harris, I don't want that said about me.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
I don't want that.

Speaker 7 (10:30):
I don't I don't want Jimmy Butler to be like
Tobias Harris. Really, Kelly olinok nah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Good Kelly Olinic. Okay, would you rather be Yeah, Jimmy
g Kelly Olinic or m Yeah, it's Tom trying to

(10:57):
find out.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
That's why if you just keep it a year veteran
baseball player, basketball player, football player, that solid ten year career.
All right, you're you're not a Hall of Famer. I
guess you're getting rich in all of them. I'd rather
be a ten year vet in the NBA. Yeah, because
I'm playing indoors. I don't have to play all eighty
two games because nobody does and nobody cares if I don't. Man,

(11:23):
you're gonna make pretty good money traveling around. There's only
you know, thirteen or fourteen people, fifteen people on the.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Charter there stretch out a little bit. And if I'm
single doing damage in each city is only cod could do?
La work, Yeah, la work. Yeah. I would say I'd
be a ten year veteran NBA. Anybody have a different sport,
like a Kirk Heinrich type.

Speaker 8 (11:48):
You know, you have a nice career, You bounce, go places,
you get some starts.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Sure, Kirk Heinrich played a lot started. You've got a
good career. Yes, Tom, I know it's a.

Speaker 10 (11:57):
Long season, but the fresh air baseball is to me
this an appeal to that can make a lot of money,
less damage for the most part, on your knees, unless
you're a catcher as opposed to the other sports.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
I would want to be above average baseball play.

Speaker 10 (12:09):
If you're mess up three and a half out of
fourth time, if you're successful, you know, like two and
a half, two, three quarter times out of four, you're
a pretty good ballplayer. You know, you're a major All
starf one out of every three times you're doing something.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
What happens on the three quarters time that that's tough.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
It's tough to calculate that. But the analytics people could
help you with that.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
Yes, yes, if you were successful three out of four
times that you played, you would be by far the
greatest baseball player of all TA seven fifty. If you
you're a great player. If you're good three out of
ten times, yeah, you're a you're a Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I think you're numbers. Yeah, that was two and a
half out of four times. You were passionate though when
you said I.

Speaker 10 (12:44):
Was I prefer baseball, You guys will have to deal
with the fact that I pick, Yeah, do you mess
up set three out of four? But that would be
godding seven to fifty and then you would be super
human like some kind.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Of road said two and three quarters successful.

Speaker 10 (12:59):
Because one out of every three and very few people
are batting three thirty three that that's not above average.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Pa, we got we got a time. And the NBA
also we have the All Star Game.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Yeah, the NFL Draft is four weeks from two.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
And if you're Bonex, where you think bo Nix is
next will be picked.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
By Bo Knicks.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
All Kay Knicks, Broncos Bonix would pick Bo Nicks.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
I bet he's got to go all in on yourself.
We talk about that all.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
The car right, nobody's better than me? All right.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
We also have another poll question up there, Todd. This
might be right up your alley, but would you rather
play second base, shortstop, or right field?

Speaker 10 (13:30):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (13:31):
If I was very good at all those positions, I
want to be short Is.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
This the Mookie Bets question?

Speaker 7 (13:36):
That's the Mookie Bets pol question. And those are the
three positions that I believe that he's played.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
You got to play shortstop? Yeah, right now?

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Shortstop has thirty seven point nine percent of the vote. Yeah,
nobody wants to play second base, which I'm personally offended.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Second base is a great position. Yeah, I played short stop. Uh,
you know, you're right there. All the action.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
Best player on the team goes to shortened pitch. Pitch
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Paul.

Speaker 8 (14:00):
Right field, you're grass, you can see the fans right
by you, and chitchall a little bit.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't know, I don't want to part of that, really. No.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
Right fielders make a great salary when you're older, but
when you're younger, it's where you put the worst player
on the team.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
It used to hello, Hello. It's either a catcher when
you're younger, or right field, and then you'll send the
kid out there. I love watching little league, not even
little league like t ball, just to see what they
do and the fact that they're just out there and
they have no interest in the game itself. And then

(14:32):
a'll ball be hit and you're like skippy, and then
he'll be like okay, yes, God.

Speaker 10 (14:37):
And in the early days of the litter league, everyone
has to play at least a half a game or
a couple of innings. When you know there's some kids
that just do not belong out there, and I know
the parents are there and everything, but you're trying to
win some games and put a good roster together, and
then you got to let them play all the different positions,
so all the kids get a chance to try all
the different spots.

Speaker 8 (14:53):
Yeah, Mookie Betts in his eleven year career has played outfield,
right field, centerfield, second base, shortstop in DH and he's
played one hundred and second base to twenty three at centerfield,
and nine and seventy eight and right field, and a
bonus of eighteen games at shortstep.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
That's impressive.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Yeah, seat you are seeing the thing like where like
the coach's kid is pitching, the best player is shortstop,
Like the smallest kid plays second. They put each little
league position, the fastest kid is centerfield, the toughest kid
is catcher. It's kind of the way it all went.
Do you think we're profiled a little bit? The tallest kid,
you know where he plays first base?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Exactly. Yeah. If you're left handed, then you're usually playing
first base. Definitely, Yeah, definitely. I remember playing against a
guy who was a left handed catcher. That's weird, and
I had never seen he got drafted by the Reds,
that's weird. His name is Marlin Styles. I think he
got drafted by the Reds. He was a left handed catcher,

(15:55):
and every time he'd catch it and he'd throw the
ball back at whiz right by your head. When you're
at the plate. You kept thinking, if I just lean
in here, he's gonna bang me right in the nogin here.
All right. We didn't settle anything, I don't think there
but nothing. We did waste some time. Playball, huh, playball
time like baseball? All right? Christian Leytner is going to

(16:17):
join us twenty ten, enshrined in the Hall of Fame
as a member of the Dream Team. The only player
from the Dream Team who hasn't been inducted into the
Hall of Fame individually. What is wrong with this picture?
Take a break back After this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2 (17:20):
Thirteen baseball games scheduled basketball tonight, Clemson, Arizona, San Diego State, Connecticut, Alabama,
North Carolina, Illinois, Iowa State. Bama's been in the Sweet
sixteen three of the last four years. You're looking at it.
I said, oh, here's the playoffs. You go, Oh, that's football.
Clemson's in there, Alabama's in there. Well, Yukon in there,

(17:43):
so it wouldn't be you know, football, but Illinois, Iowa State,
Arizona also in the Sweet sixteen. Games coming up tonight.
I'll reiterate this. I've said this twice and let it
sink in and twenty ten. Christian Laitner and shrined in
the Naysmith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, a member of
the nineteen ninety two Dream Team. But Christian is the

(18:05):
only player of that team who hasn't been inducted into
the Hall of Fame individually, and Christian Latner joined us
on the program. Why is that.

Speaker 12 (18:14):
Dan?

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Is that you?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yes, it is Christian.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
It's me.

Speaker 12 (18:18):
I know we're looking different, you know, these days. But
good to see you.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Good to see you. Why aren't you in the Hall
of Fame for your playing career?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Who knows. I don't really think about it that much.

Speaker 12 (18:30):
I'm in plenty of hall of fames and the one
I'm may be most proud of is the Polish Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
So I'm fine, what did you get for the Polish
Hall of Fame? And is Shryzhevsky in the Polish Hall
of Fame?

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I mean, I'm pretty sure he is. He'd better be.
I think he is.

Speaker 12 (18:48):
I got a nice trip up to I think it
was in Detroit, and we had a nice banquet and
maybe a trophy or some type of metal and it
was a great time. My family was able to join
me because they're proud Pollocks.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, but I'm serious, why you're not in the basketball
Hall of Fame Because people will have to understand it's
what you did in college and or the pros, and
you were one of the five or ten greatest college
players of all time. Your resume shows that, and you
had a sustained pro career, so I'm I'm curious. I
know you might not care, but just from somebody covering

(19:26):
the sport, you should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 12 (19:30):
Well thanks, Dan, I appreciate you saying that. And every
time you mention it, some of my friends text me
and say, Dan Patrick's you know.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Doing it again? And I don't. I don't commit any
thought to it.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Okay, don't.

Speaker 12 (19:44):
I don't think about it. I don't worry about it.
It might happen someday and life goes on.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Were you there when the Dream Team went in whenevery,
you know, the twenty ten enshrinement?

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yes, I was there.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
What was that like? How much smacked talk was going on?

Speaker 4 (20:02):
It was awesome. It was great to see all the
guys again.

Speaker 12 (20:05):
I retired from the NBA in five so I went
four or five years without seeing any of my old
buddies or guys that I used to play against. So
it was great to be there and to see everybody
and to be part of that group.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
But you know, having so much confidence when you played
at Duke and in the NBA, and then all of
a sudden you're around the Dream Team guys, can you
be Christian Latner around those guys or did you have to,
you know, kind of suppress your ego a little bit.

Speaker 12 (20:37):
They allowed me to be Christian Latner, but at the
same time they wanted me to know and.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
To be and to act like a rookie. And that's
what I did.

Speaker 12 (20:47):
And that's why in the past I've said it would
have been harder for Shack or limes all Morning.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
To be on that team because.

Speaker 12 (20:57):
Maybe you gotta throw the ball to Shack a little more,
and maybe Shaq doesn't accept his role as willingly as
I did.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
I was a very good rookie. I knew my role.

Speaker 12 (21:11):
I loved the fact that when the media walked in,
no one came to me and wanted to.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Talk to me.

Speaker 12 (21:19):
And after practice I would just go pick up the
balls and put him in the racks and pick up
everyone's dirty towel and get ready for the next practice.
So it was a great environment. I loved every second
of it.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
As you know, Dan, we had a lot of success
my junior and senior year at Duke.

Speaker 12 (21:40):
But if you had asked me what was my favorite
year at Duke, I would say my freshman year, and
I loved every second of playing in the NBA. But
if you had asked me my favorite year, I would
say my rookie year, even though we lost a lot
of games. My rookie year with the Timberwolves. Like a
lot of people I might, I prefer things that are

(22:03):
brand new, things that are over my head, things where
I'm just flying by the seat of my pants and
I don't really know what I'm doing and I really
can't control anything.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
So my favorite year at Duke was.

Speaker 12 (22:15):
My freshman year when there weren't that many expectations put
on my shoulders. Or I loved every second of the
Dream Team because I didn't have to score twenty points
for us to win.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
So having no expectations is a time that I love.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
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(22:55):
it felt like that was the coming out party where
Larry and Magic got already passed the baton to Mike
and he was the best player in the game and
dominating probably those pickup games. What was your first impression
when you see Jordan or you're trying to guard him.

Speaker 12 (23:13):
My first impression of Jordan and my lasting impression of
Jordan is how much effort he put forth on the
defensive end. People don't talk about that enough. You know,
you get on Facebook and it shows his dunks and
his offensive plays. But you got to remember, I think
he was first team All Defensive team, what eight, ten,

(23:37):
twelve years.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I mean, people don't stress that enough.

Speaker 12 (23:43):
I coach basketball nowadays, Dan with middle school and high
school players, and I don't have time on the court
to teach the kids defense enough. You're only practicing with
them once or twice a week, and you gotta work
on offensive stuff. And if you don't let them shoot
three pointers, they cry, and if you don't let them

(24:05):
do the stupid Euro step, you know, they complain and
all this stuff. Well, how about some defensive drills and
some defensive work. And Michael Jordan was the greatest defender also,
and look at the effort Kobe Bryant put forth on
the defensive end, and that's where the differences are made,

(24:27):
the small little things in the game that make a
huge difference.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Playing defense hard, playing defense the right way.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
But are you coaching? Are you channeling Mike Skruyshewski when
you're coaching these middle school kids?

Speaker 12 (24:42):
I am, And usually it's when I get a little
too intense and a little too passionate and maybe raise
my tone of voice a little bit too much, because
that's what made us good at Duke or great at
Duke was the intensity and the passion that coach k
had every second.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
And that's what I loved about him so much. When
I find myself being patient and I find myself not
losing my patience and losing my temper a little bit,
then I'm more like my father. My father coached grammar
school kids, such a patient man. I love the way

(25:24):
my dad coached. But it also feels good.

Speaker 12 (25:28):
To get intense and to get passionate about the game
out there, and maybe raise your tone of voice a
little bit and tell these kids, we gotta play harder,
we got to play better, We got to play some
freaking defense.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
You hit a fifteen foot turnaround jumper on this day
giving a Duke. The overtime went over Kentucky ten for
ten from the floor, ten for ten from the line,
thirty one points. Anything else from that game that we
may not know, because we certainly have dissected that over
the years, over the decades.

Speaker 12 (26:01):
No, I don't think you know anything's not been spoken about.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Was there any chance you weren't getting the ball on
that inbounds pass?

Speaker 4 (26:12):
There was a chance.

Speaker 12 (26:13):
I think Coach k said something like, if Christian's not open,
throw it to the sideline to Thomas Hill or Bobby Hurley.
You would have to ask Grant because he's the one
that had the ball in his hands. He was the
quarterback at that time. He's the one making the ultimate decision.
So you would have to ask Grant that question.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
And that was a harder play though than you just
getting a fifteen foot jumper.

Speaker 12 (26:40):
Well, every play on the basketball court is difficult, especially
during March Madness, especially during against Kentucky, when you're down
one point and there's two point one seconds left and
there's a lot of pressure and you don't want to lose,
and the Duke family and the fans are gonna cry,

(27:01):
and I mean everything will be over my career at
Duke would be over.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
So there's a lot of pressure. But that's why you
go to Duke.

Speaker 12 (27:11):
That's why you play in all those That's why you
play in all those big games against NC State, against Carolina.
You go down to Clemson where they're trying to kill you,
and they're throwing heat it up quarters.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
At you, you know, from the from the stands, and.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
You justin and throwing those at you at Clemson.

Speaker 12 (27:33):
I swear when I was at Clemson, I got hit
with a penny or a nickel and it seemed like.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
It was warm, Dan, I'll tell you that. But you know,
you just get you get used to it.

Speaker 12 (27:45):
You get used to that pressure, and it's such a
great feeling and it's such a great thing to still
be able to perform under all that pressure.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
And I loved every second of it.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, you embraced it, and you embraced being a villain too.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
I embrace playing for Duke.

Speaker 12 (28:02):
I embrace playing for a great program that had a
support staff and a family and a fan base.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
You had to like being hated because that means you're
really good or great. No.

Speaker 12 (28:16):
I liked representing Duke, and when you're Duke basketball and
you're winning a lot of your games, and every place
you go it might be the biggest game of their season,
and they're going to give you your best shot. And
you know it's it's hardening you. You know, it's making
you a better player. That's the thing that I loved.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
What about expanding the tournament, there's been talk of that.
Where do you stand on that?

Speaker 12 (28:44):
No, they gotta you know, everyone says the horses out
of the barn, and I'm here to tell you.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
That everything's going wrong.

Speaker 12 (28:52):
Nil, take it away, transper portal, take it away, expanding
the stupid tournament, take it away. You have to make
it feel special. You have to make people earn their
spot to get in the tournament. I know everything is
about money, and money makes.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
The world go round.

Speaker 12 (29:13):
Everything they're doing is wrong. The nil is bad. Take
it away, the transfer portal bad.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Take it away.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, but they can. It's already. It's already done, Christian.
Now we have to adapt to it. Like that's the
problem with it. Grown ups allow this to happen. Would
you have asked for nil money at Duke.

Speaker 12 (29:33):
No, even though everyone says, boy Christian, you would have
made a lot of money if nil was going when
you were there. That's what the NBA is for. That's
why there's guys in the NBA making fifty million a year.
That's what you train and work hard for and the
payoff comes at the end.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
What do people say to you when they see you
outside of where you live, like at an airport? What
do people say to you? Normally?

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Nowadays they say, can I take a picture with you?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay?

Speaker 12 (30:07):
And a lot of them say I love you, and
a lot of them say I hated you, but can
I still take youselfie with you?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
You're a coach, man, I can't imagine that. By the way,
Bobby Hurley is in the Polish Hall of Fame as well.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yes he should be.

Speaker 12 (30:27):
And Bobby's a coach and his brother Danny's a coach,
And how good is that Hurley family at coaching?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
You know, I love watching you can play.

Speaker 12 (30:38):
They're an incredible team, but they don't play pick up
playground basketball. They slow down when they need to, they
pass ahead when they need to. I love the way
U Can plays.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I do too.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's old school. I mean, it's just they're not dependent
on the three. Do you think Coach k would have
let you guys let it fly from three point range.

Speaker 12 (31:04):
He would have let certain people who could shoot the
three pointer shoot the three pointer. I mean, you have
to be able to prove yourself in practice, and if
you're making them in practice, and the coaches turned to
Coach K and say, man later can shoot the three,
we should let him shoot the three. Every decision Coach
K made was you had to prove it in practice.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
So I think that's what he would have done.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
I asked Coach K who had more range, Caitlyn Clark
or JJ Reddick. Who do you think? He said, Kaitlyn Clark, No,
he said JJ Reddick. I go, no way. But he
didn't take deep threes. Caitlyn takes deep threes.

Speaker 12 (31:48):
Yeah, you know, the logo three wasn't a thing when
JJ was in school. But I've seen Dennis Scott hit
half court shots like he shot his and he would
go out in Cameron, you know, before the game and
warm ups, and our fans would be freaking cheering for tennis.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Scott, and I was like, what the heck's going on?

Speaker 12 (32:12):
But he was out there putting on a circus show
and shooting half court shots like you and I would
shoot our free throw.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
But then, was Kenny Anderson still there?

Speaker 12 (32:23):
Kenny Anderson was there a year or two later. Kenny
Anderson's one of the greatest point guards that I've ever
played against, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, it's great to talk to you. I
hope you're doing well. Don't get kicked out of any games.
Don't you know, have something go viral? You know where
you're yelling in a seventh grader?

Speaker 12 (32:40):
Okay, I've coached about one hundred games, Dan, and I've
gotten kicked out of one.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
What did you do to get kicked out? Did you
argue a call?

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I might have said that word to the rep and
they kicked me out.

Speaker 12 (32:56):
But luckily it didn't go on YouTube. It didn't go viral,
so so I got away with it.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
If it did, Coach k would call you, he.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Might, and he would say you're doing good.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Good to visit with you. Thanks for joining us, Christian Okay, thanks,
Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame. We're gonna get you in.
Christian Laighton, two time champion, Duke and uh part of
the Dream Team, by the way, joining us on behalf
of Draftking sportsbook and they have a no sweat bet
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(33:33):
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Speaker 7 (33:38):
Polish Hall of Fame is elite though it. Oh yeah,
that's great, Okay, yeah, Pauling.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
And you only have to be half Polish Mike Suesski
obviously in Christian Layner, half Polish, Bobby Hurley half Polish
Mike Jaminski first ballot.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Ooh g man.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (33:52):
And there's Kelly Tripukadan. Oh you love him, Yes, I did,
just amongst luminaries. Yeah, except for when Kelly went to
the when he went to is Afro. That wasn't a
good look there.

Speaker 7 (34:05):
Each there own.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, take a break. Phone calls coming up next. Fox
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Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot com and
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fun to catch up with Latner. We were wondering the
last great four year player, like truly great player in

(34:30):
college basketball because Tim Duncan stayed, Grand Hill stayed, Ewing stayed.
I can go back if you want to include. He's
not a great player, but he was the number one
overall pick. Kenyon Martin, I think all four years at Cincinnati.
But the last truly great player who stayed for four years, yeah, Paul.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
Tim Duncan, I'm looking back, could have gone out after
a sophomore or junior season and bet a top five pick.
He stayed and he was ninth ninety seven. That's pretty
late in the game. Yeah, as well passed the one
and done here.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Grant Hill, he stayed all four years. Anybody after that,
where you go? That guy is great. I mean, now,
it's to the point if you don't leave after your
freshman year, certainly after your sophomore year, something's wrong with you.
You know, like Zach Edie, you're going, well, he needs
to get better. Luke Garza needed to get better. And

(35:27):
then sometimes you'll stay. Steph Curry. You know, Steph stayed
so he could work on his ball handling skills and
become a point guard as opposed to his you know,
shooting guard.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
Yeah, Paul, Right before Tim Duncan, Alan Irison did two years,
Glenn Robinson did three years. It's just before Chris Weber
did two years, Shack did two years. They could have
to go back to Danny Manning in nineteen eighty eight,
he was the number one pick. I think he played
all four years Agansas.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, but that's eighty eight. I'm talking about.

Speaker 8 (35:54):
Nothing since, not even close. Since after him, it was
Elton Brand and Kwame Brown and Yao ming Lebron James.
There's nothing even close guys who stayed a long time.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
So who is the last great player to stay four years?
Was it Tim Duncan or grand Hill who came first
or last?

Speaker 7 (36:13):
Grand Hill's older, he is, Okay, that's tough though, that's
tough to figure out.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, how many guys do stay longer than two years
if you're truly a great player. But dunk In is
Duncan the last last of that generation, even staying three years.
That's why you'll never have another Latner again. You just

(36:40):
you won't because somebody of that magnitude is not going
to stay four years.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
He stayed four years because he loved playing at Duke,
but he was a top five pick by Minnesota. There
won't be another Patrick Ewing, I mean, Tim Duncan. All
these guys that stay four years, there's really no reason
to stay all four years or three years or two years. Yes,
marm the.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
Only guys that stay all four years are fringe NBA
players like you know what, if you get drafted, you'd
be a late first round, early second round, like the
guys were talking about, Like you said, Shack and Duncan
and Ewing Ralph Sampson, those guys could have gone out
two years before they declared for the draft.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Greg and Florida joins us. Good morning, Greg, what's on
your mind? Good morning? Uh?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Dan? Who do you think will have the best career
out of these five guys? Jalen Brumson, Shape Gildris, Alexander,
Trey Young, Tyrese Haliburton or Tyrese Maxi?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh, well, feels like Shay Gildriss Alexander is a little
tick above them. We don't talk about Trey Young that
much anymore. He's still good player, good numbers. Halliburton's a
lot of fun. But you know, I watched him when

(37:58):
he was in Sacramento. But this injury and now coming
back because you want to qualify with the sixty five games,
he hasn't played that well. Maxie, I'd been trumpeting since
he got in. I thought he was going to be
an All Star two years ago. Uh who else was
in there? Maxie Haliburton Trey Young, Uh, Shay Gilgis, Uh,

(38:24):
Jalen and Bo Nicks. Thank you, Tod Jalen bruns is
pretty good. Wow, I might I might put Alexander put
Brunson underneath Shay Gilgis. I mean, Brunson's doing it in

(38:45):
New York City. He's the leader of that team. I
think he's surprised a lot of people that he had
this this much ability to be able to score and
they're they're a relevant team, they're playing well. It starts
with him. That's interesting question. George and Texas. Good morning, George.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (39:07):
Hey Dan, I just wanted to ask what the sports
landscape changing for the worst. In my opinion, if you
could relive a sports decade, either as a reportal or
just a fan, what decade would you choose?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Well, I think it depends on the sport that you're covering,
Because if you said I could watch baseball in the
twenties with the Yankees, the Black Sox scandal, Babe Ruth,
that would be pretty entertaining. I love the old AFL

(39:45):
in the sixties, plus you had the NFL like that
might be the period I'd take because the AFL a
lot of their rosters were made up of African American
players who were playing at historically black colleges and universities.
They got a chance to play in the AFL. And
I loved watching the AFL, but you you know, you
kind of mirror or you compare that with the NFL

(40:10):
in their style was pretty much run the football. Quarterback
may throw it fifteen times a game. In the AFL,
you were throwing the football when you have a quarterback
named Darryl Lamonica whose nickname was the Mad Bomber. That's
my kind of football. You had old school and you
had new school. You had the ABA and the NBA,

(40:30):
and we saw that the NBA adopted some things from
the ABA. The ABA was a lot of fun. That
was running gun, a lot of fun. That should have
been their moto, running gun a lot of fun. And
then you had the NBA, which I would love to
have watched the Celtics with Russell. I never got to
see him play in person, but to be able to
see Red Auerbach coaching, smoking a cigar, being in the

(40:54):
old Boston garden, that would have been fun. Watching them
go against you know, Wilt Chamberlain, that would have been
fun as well, so I would probably say the sixties,
you know, in all sports, if you're looking at it, baseball,
when I first fell in love with baseball back in
the late sixties, well, mid sixties. All right, we'll take

(41:15):
a break, last call for phone calls, Watson Store, final
hour on the way. Todd's here, Seaton's here, Marvin's here,
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