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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, people fired up a little bit over
the Hall of Fame. Not who got in, but one
voter didn't vote for each year row, so he didn't
get the perfect ballot.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Mike.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Only Mariano Rivera did.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
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seven three DP show operator Tyler's sitting by. You take
your phone calls good morning, those watching on Peacock or
if you're listening on our radio affiliates around the country.
Each euro Billy Wagner CC Sabathia going into the Hall
of Fame, the Bears will introduce their new head coach,
Ben Johnson. I'm anxious to just see how he is
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answering questions. I don't think I've ever seen him interviewed,
and with assistant coaches or coordinators, they don't get interviewed,
and that's probably a great thing. You go to work,
and you get to go to work. You don't have
to deal with all the other ancillary stuff. But now
Ben Johnson, does the vikings extend to their head coach
Kevin O'Connell. There was talk that maybe he could be traded.
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Kevin O'Connell joins one other coach as the only coaches
since nineteen fifty to have two thirteen win seasons in
a span of three years with two different starting quarterbacks.
The other coach is in a shadow of a great,
great coach. The two quarterbacks are Hall of Famers Marvin
(01:33):
George Seffert Bloop bloop bloop. George Seaford had Joe Montana
and Steve Young. Kevin O'Connell had Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold.
Similar issue four Hall of Famers. Yeah, I saw a
report yesterday and I tried to follow up on this,
but I didn't hear back from a source.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Sam Darnold and the Raiders question Mark.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We talked about that maybe you're going to bring in
a bridge quarterback here, and you know, I don't know
what he's going to costume. Maybe you get a respectable
number there for Sam Darnold and he's your quarterback with
the Raiders. Raiders did lose out on Ben Johnson, and
now what's planned being that'll be interesting because Brady loses
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out on Brabele loses out on Ben Johnson, and I say,
you know he lost out on them reportedly. I know
that he spent an hour with a zoom call with
Ben Johnson, and I think that surprised a lot of
people that Ben Johnson was going to go to the Bears.
He was going to go to the Bears so stay
in the division against his former team Detroit. But I
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think he looked at which team is ready to win
or closer to win, and certainly it's the Bears. So
whole question Seaton for the second hour of the program.
By the way, Cowboys, Jags, Jets, Raiders, Saints still open
for business.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, right now, for the first hour we had up there,
Hall of Fame voting should be public or private? Right now?
About staying firm at ninety percent? Want at public. I'm
curious why people want it private. Why you wouldn't want
to know?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
CC Sabbathia will join us in about fifteen minutes or so.
Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer for the Browns, will join
us a little bit later on as well. All right,
So poll question for hour two.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Sorry, did you want to do the one that I
threw out there earlier about coaching legacy or did you
say that was our three. Man, I hate waiting till
our three because it's a great question. I'm going to
throw it up there anyway, and why not? Okay, your
options are Dan Quinn, he would obviously take a big
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jump off.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, that would be a bit.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
That would be a big, big jump after what happened
against the Patriots in Atlanta. I'm going to put Andy
Reid on there because even though he's got some rings,
he could be if he was to get this one.
He's looking at greatest of all time conversation. He's certainly
getting a lot closer, right.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I think Steve Spagnolo goes on there, Spags, Spags. He
could end up becoming a Hall of Famer strictly by
being a coordinator. And I don't I don't know if
there's any coordinators that are in the Hall of Fame
that did it because of their career as a coordinator.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The Steelers have a coordinator who went in, but he's
a former player, yeah, Marv dick Lebou.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Yeah, I don't know if he went in as a
player or a coach. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, No, I think the combination, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
If he went in because he was a defensive back
in the NFL and then a long, long time coordinator.
I don't I don't know how many coordinators have gone
into the Hall of Fame, but I would think Spags
is going to have to go in because he dials
things up. No other defensive coordinator dials things up like
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Spags does.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yes, Todd not.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Then it's Todd Munkin.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Isn't believe about Todd Munkin.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
If you haven't heard any.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Munking the most mentioned coordinators, Todd Munkin is up there
with Spags. If Kirk Kurbstreet's doing the game, chances are
Todd Munkin might get mentioned as much as the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes, Seaton.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I don't know that there's any other coaches that go
on this list. Is Sean McDermott. I know he could
get a ring.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I don't feel like it jumps him up into like
another level though necessarily or at least that's not the
way things seem to be talked about now. And Nick
Sirianni too, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
That he has a.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Luch bumping I think he could use one. Oh no, okay,
everybody could use one. Everybody could use one. I just
don't know how much more it really does for him necessarily.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think I think there's a coronation there, like Sean McDermott.
We go, Hey, he's pretty good. But then it feels
like every other year you're like, man, should they stay
with Sean McDermott if he'd win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't know, it just kind of validates. It's just
like you won a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Like Mike McCarthy, Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, you won a
super Bowl, Sean McVay, you want a super Bowl. You're
just you're in the club and you might only get
to be on the ground level. Maybe you don't get
to go up to the penthouse, but you're still in.
And I would say Sean McDermott went Sirianni. Absolutely. I
think that would be like, all right, this guy is real,
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like he's he is our future, because it feels like
that's been kind of up and down where it's like,
I don't know, do you keep him, Hey, get rid
of the coordinators? Are right, they're going to keep the coach.
Then he brings in really good coordinators. Now all of
a sudden, Nick Sirianni's up back and he's a good coach.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, seton.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
But it feels like there are some people who, no
matter how well they play or how well things go,
there's always the question mark, like we'll just stay in Philadelphia.
Nobody's sure if Jalen Hurts is still the guy. He's
still performing at a pretty high level, a super Bowl
caliber level, but people are still not sure if he's
the guy. There doesn't really matter what he does that
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there's gonna it feels like there's gonna be question marks. Okay,
who could use the super Bowl more? Jalen Hurts or
Nick Siriani. Boh, there you go to get it bang?
Speaker 8 (07:12):
Yes, Marvin, And with Sirianni, that doesn't mean anything for
job security if he wins the super Bowl, because look
at Doug Peterson, he won a super Bowl, he was
out in two years. There really doesn't mean anything. It's like, oh,
it's super Bowl winning coach, but he could be out
in two years.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, but you could be on scholarship for a little
while longer. Doug Peterson got a job in Jacksonville because
he won a super Bowl in Philadelphia.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
But the team that you won a super Bowl with
got rid of you? Who seasons after? I thought, you
win a Super Bowl A, you give me at least
three seasons of ineptitude?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah, anptitude, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
I was looking at Andy Reid. He's got three if
he won another. Clearly I did the math. He'd be
up to four before ty with Chuck Noll. But would
that make him more likely to retire or more likely
to stave off retirement because you're two behind Bill Belichick?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, I wouldn't worry about Belichick. I'd worry about Patrick Mahomes.
As long as Mahomes is Mahomes. Why would I leave
right right?
Speaker 9 (08:11):
Some people? I saw a report that like, not a report.
If Andy Reid wins a third, what a great time
to get out just a story.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, but they're talking about Jason Kelcey. I could see
Kelsey retiring. Travis Kelcey, I could see him retire, but
not Andy Reid, Like.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
What else are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I don't think they're asking you do commercials when you're retired,
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Look at what you've done.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I would stay. I got Mahomes, that's all I need.
And I got Chris Jones.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Andy sixty six, he's still got six more years.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't walk away from that, No way.
Speaker 9 (09:02):
Yes, but it's such a cool move you walk away, well,
I know, you leave a lot.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It's cool until you walk away.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, Like I'm going a and I'm going to retire
in three years, and then that first day after retirement,
I'm gonna go, oh no, what did I just do.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
So it's cool until it's not cool.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
If the Chiefs win the Super Bowl this year and
Andy Reid retires, do you want that job?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yes, because I still have Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I don't know. I'm a year older that Patrick Mahomes.
You don't have Travis Kelcey. You don't have any of
the other things that made him good, and you now
have to be the guy that, Okay, match those three
in a row or it's a failure.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I don't have Taylor Swift. If I don't have
Travis Goil, I would have Caitlyn Clark. Though I would
have Caitlin Clark show.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Up all of a sudden, she figured out that's chefs
fanad Ink.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh my god, Chris Russo on yesterday, not realizing that
Caitlin Clark is a lifelong Kansas City chief fan.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
You mean, for some reason, she wasn't able to automate,
like instantly pull up a picture from when she was
six years old in a Chief's uniform.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Just had that one on stand by, Yes, yes, yes, PAULI,
because that story got a lot of clicks.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
The Russo Caitlyn Clark on our show thing yesterday got
picked up by sports media all over the world, like
the Daily Mail in London. Of course that story. Of
course even London were dying for that story.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yes, of course.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Now, Ross Tucker ran into Caitlyn Clark at the Chiefs
game last week and he said, Hey, I'm Ross Tucker.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Blah blah blah. She knew that he was on our
show and said, tell the guys that I.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Said, eloous, Yes it is, thank you, thank you to
very excited.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah. AnyWho.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
A couple of phone calls in here Aiden in Utah, Hi, Aiden,
what's going on today?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Add?
Speaker 10 (11:08):
I wanted to give my take on the cheese. Right,
I'm not sick of them winning. I'm annoyed of it.
I'm a Broncos fan. Is annoying watching them win? Well,
like what annoys me?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
More is.
Speaker 10 (11:19):
And I'm sure you don't see this because you're not
on social media, but after every single win, it's it
was the Chiefs and Rets versus this team, or the
refs have three rings, or you know, it's all the
credit goes to the referees and none of it goes
to Pout Mahomes and how Raton or yes, they get help,
but that's not the reason they win every single game.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I don't know if they get help as much as
we see every time they get help. We're watching their
games because they always are. They're a marquee draw and
therefore you're not watching every other game of every other
team where you go, Oh, I can't believe Matthew Stafford
got that call what could have been a game against Seattle,
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and it's not shown nationally. The Chiefs games are on nationally.
It's a big deal and therefore we see this happen. Now.
Do I think Patrick Mahomes flaunts the rules of protecting
a quarterback? I do, but it's gamesmanship. If you can
get away with it, you do until you can't. It's
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like James I remember Tim Hardaway would push off with
his right arm and create separation. Well, they let him
do it until they said, hey, you can't push off
James Harden trying to take advantage of the rules.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
It happens.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
When we first saw Ginobili take the euro step, We're like,
that's traveling, that's traveling. But he was able to get
away with something. Now everybody comps, you know, the euro
step there and mahomes Is. He knows he's going to
get favorable treatment. He knows that until they change that,
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he'll continue to flaunt that. I do I knock him
for that? Or do I knock the NFL and the officials.
Do I knock Taylor Swift or the networks for showing
Taylor's swift? So I think our anger is directed in
the wrong, you know, in the wrong direction. It's Taylor
Swift shows up. She doesn't say I'm going to show up.
(13:20):
I need at least five on camera appearances and let
me know so I can comb my hair. She can't
sit in section three hundred with Jimmy Lipper and Tommy Kalamari.
You can't tell me Klamari, Jimmy Skunjeal and Tommy Klamari
sitting next to her.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
She can't do that. Yes, Todd, I think we.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Should be angry at all the other teams in the NFL,
namely the American Football Conference for allowing the chief seven
straight years. In this era where players are bouncing back
and forth and it's hard to keep guys together. How
could a team seven straight years get to the AFC
title game and no other team can figure out a
way to stop that. That's what we should be angry.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Thank you to back to you.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, if you start to beat the Chiefs, they won't
be on as often. Just letting everybody know. If you
beat them, then they're not playing for championships, so they're
not advancing in the playoffs. That'd be a good way
to keep Taylor Swift off your TV set, or Caitlin
Clark or Andy Reid or Mahomes and Kelsey. It's a dynasty.
(14:24):
We get tired of dynasties after a while. And they're
not that formidable offense the way they were when they
were really dynamic, they were exciting. They're boring. Now they're
boringly great. You don't get style points. This isn't college football.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
You just win.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And it's just like the Patriots, they had style points.
We got Randy moss Worth scoring and then all of
a sudden they got shut down on the Super Bowl,
and then they had years where they were boring, boringly great,
and they would win Super Bowls Kansas City. It's a dynasty.
They all come to an end. But appreciate it. I'm
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not going to say enjoy it, but appreciate it because
these things don't happen. There's only one Chicago Bulls in
Michael Jordan, where we were fascinated with them. I don't
think we ever. They were never out of favor. They
were always interesting, they were always fascinating. Now, if Patrick
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Mahomes decides to play baseball like Michael did, all right,
then if he says, I'm going to take a couple
of years off, I'm going to let Josh Allen or
Joe Burrow win a Super Bowl here and then I'll
come back, I'm back.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
It is crazy for you to say that out loud,
because Michael Jordan did that at the peak of his powers.
If that happened today, if you said, hey, here's something
that could happen. Patrick Mahomes, the best player in the sport,
is going to give it up to play baseball. And
he has a baseball background, Yeah, it would.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Be unless maybe he was under suspicion of gambling or something,
you know, like Michael maybe.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
That you know, people have said that I'm distancing myself there.
Todd will be like, we'll never get Jordan on now.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Every time we.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Make some got a negative coming out of my house
is gonna affect me and doing with the ploper.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
What are the current odds though, of us getting Michael
Jordan on the show before I retire.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
We're at percent. Yeah, it was twenty five percent two years.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Ago, so it's sort of like a potential Hall of Famer. Correct,
Like I'm getting thirty percent of the vote right now.
Pauli's corresponded, let me take a break. We will get
to a Hall of Famer. CC Sabbathia more phone calls
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Speaker 2 (17:49):
I'm looking at a picture of the New Orleans Superdome.
There's a bunch of snow there today. That's where the
Super Bowl is gonna beat now granted, not playing outdoors,
but uh, there's snow in New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I got all these friends.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I got a friend in Savannah, friend in Atlanta, friend
in Houston. They're like, we don't even have a snowplow.
This is the city. Doesn't have a snowplow. I got snow.
It's called a shovel. Go get one. Toughing up a
little bit there. He is a former All conference tight
end in high school, former Milwaukee Brewer great, and now
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a Hall of Famer. C. C. Sabbathia, Congratulations, thank you,
thank you. What kind of tight end were you?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
You know what? What who did you pattern your game after?
In high school?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I was not a blocking tight end.
Speaker 12 (18:42):
I was more of a I need I need at
least three balls throwing my way a half before I can,
you know, start blocking. My model was no rock, no block,
no rock, no block.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Did you think about playing in college?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I did.
Speaker 12 (18:59):
I really wanted to. I really wanted to play football.
That was that was my first love. I really enjoyed
playing football. But I but I know, like my body type.
Since I would have got to college, they would have
turned me into office at tackle right away. So I
mean hopefully it filled. Hopefully it would have paid off.
But yeah, I mean I would have loved to been
been able to have a chance to go to college
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to play football.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
How many pairs of pants do you have for your
playing days? I love, I'd love to get a pair
of those those pants.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Man, You know what, I honestly I probably have a
couple of pairs. They put it, they put They put
a few on my locker when I go back for
spring training now, just for just for fun, I can
get both legs and one and one and one leg now.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But what made you go to those large, you know,
baggy pants.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
You know what?
Speaker 12 (19:46):
It was just me wanting to like represent myself. You know,
it was the hat being tilted sideways. When I first
came up, the pants had to be super tight like that.
You know, everybody were the uniform super small and super tight,
and they had the lastic at the bottom. And once
I got a little older and a little established in
the league, I was like, I want to kind of
represent how I want to look on the field. And
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it was the back with the big jerseys and everybody
was wearing the throwback, so I adopted the big pants.
I tilted my hat to the side or where the
big My jersey was always my sleeves are always a
lot longer than everybody else's, and it was just kind
of my style. And it's a funny story about that.
One time Russell Bringion when I was in Cleveland, wore
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my pants in Kansas City and George Brett came down
and like lit him up totally.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
We looked like a clown, all this stuff he was.
Speaker 12 (20:37):
Represent to making the big game look bad and all
these different things.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
It was.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It was hilarious. But yeah, I have a few pairs
I can send you something.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
What about the hat though, when you wore the hat
to the side, what kind of reaction did you get.
Speaker 12 (20:50):
Early in my career, not a good reaction obviously, as
you know how the big leagues are with the unwritten rules,
and you know, just being a young guy I was.
I was twenty years old in that clubhouse when I
first came up, So I was the youngest guy. The
next oldest guy on that team was, you know, twenty six,
twenty seven, so it was even hard to you know,
for guys to relate to me. So yeah, I mean
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it was just my thing. It was, you know, me
wearing my hat way to the side and going to
grab the ball with my hand from the third basement
after every out. Was just kind of what two of
those things that I wanted to be mine and I
was able to carry that for you know, through my
career for nineteen years.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Okay, but just chilting your hat to the sign.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Was that something that your boys did, like guys you
hung around with, Well, no, you know what.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
So when I when I was in high school, my
high school coach, he would get on me about the
way I wore my hat because scouts would show up
at the field so early, so they would watch. I
would always have my hat on backwards or you know,
propped up on my head and you know, just walking
to the park. So he would always get on me about,
you know, the way I looked, the way I you know,
represented myself walking, you know, with scouts walking around. So
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after I got drafted and you know, I felt like
I was established, I was like, I'm were on my
had however I want to however I want to wear it.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Looks like Ken Griffy Junior when he had his hat backwards.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
All the baseball purists like, you're disrespecting the game.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
Yeah, no, I mean, it's just a thing that you know,
and you know, other guys started adopting. You know, Fernando
Rodney came up. He was wearing his hat to the side.
Don Treelle Willis came up. We're from that same you
know area. We've been knowing each other forever. He was
wearing his hat to the side. So it became a thing.
And and uh, you know, I'm glad I stuck with it.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Honestly.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You' cce Sabbathia freshly minted Hall of Famer. Where were
you when you got the call?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I was here. I was home.
Speaker 12 (22:36):
You know, we we had a bunch of people over
and Baseball Hall of Fame is you know, it's it's
a tricky thing. You don't know if you're gonna get
that call or that. So we had a big party
last night. And it could have been, you know, a
big party where it could have been you know, made
forget TV, or you know, it made for you know,
a good celebration last night. But you know, I wanted
everybody around whether I got the call or not last night.
(22:59):
It's just special being on the ballot. I know how
hard it is to get into the Baseball Hall of Fame,
being you know, just a sports fan in general and
understanding sports.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
So it was a special moment for us.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Did you cry?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I haven't yet, but you know.
Speaker 12 (23:13):
Like I see different things that I get on the
verge of crying and then somebody texting me or somebody
calls it.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I've been so busy, you.
Speaker 12 (23:20):
Know, with with you know, planning and you know, we're
driving up the Cooperstown in an hour and all these
different things. I think I haven't had a chance to
really sit down and process it yet.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Which it mean though, to go in first ballance it means.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I mean, it means a lot.
Speaker 12 (23:35):
I mean, and like we like I just said, you know,
understanding you know, Baseball Hall and understanding just a Hall
of Fame in general. I don't think ten years ago,
I don't think I'll go in as a first ballot
Hall of Famer. You know, I think, you know, the
way the writers have looked at the game and you know,
the way the game has changed has allowed me to
be a first ballot Hall of Famer, which is awesome
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to me. And and uh, you know now I look
at you know, myself, and somebody like you know, justin Verlander,
Max scherz Er, you know, Greenky. You know, we're kind
of starters. You know, we're dying breed, you know. So
you know, I feel like, you know, all those guys
I just named the going first ballot.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Too, and Kershaw as well, but.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You're Kershaw too. I'm sorry, Yeah, but you're talking about that.
You had thirty eight career complete games. Guys won't come
close to that, and then pitching and have three thousand
strikeouts and two hundred and felt like it's almost like
the running back where we got to the point where
we devalued the running back. Now the running back came back,
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but the analytics has changed everything, and I don't know
how analytics may have helped you be a first ballot
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 12 (24:42):
Yeah, I think, I mean, I think there'll be a
lot more guys with you know, one hundred and fifty
wins and three thousand strikeouts. You know, if you think,
I think there'll be a lot more guys because if
you look at it, the guys guys strack out two
hundred and fifty and fifty guys a year now or
you know, getting close to three hundred strikeout to the
year just because you know, hitters don't care about striking out,
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so I think we'll get guys with three thousand strikeouts.
I think it'll be harder to get guys to two
hundred wins. And as far as analytics for me, I
mean yeah, I mean I think they helped in you know,
I think they helped me get into the Hall of
Fame obviously, like I said, because of you know, the
dying Breeders starters. But while I was playing, you know,
it was hard to you know, transition to you know,
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this this world of analytics and you know, trying to
understand that they want you to just throw your best
pitch over and over and over again, where you know,
I understand you need to set up you know, hitters
to be able to you know, trick them with your
best pitch. So you know, it was it was tough
at the end of my career, you know, trying to
pitch with analytics, but you know, being outsided out of
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the game and understanding analytics, I understand, you know, there's
a need for it in the game.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
How did you do against each yi roll?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Well, I mean, you know what, I honestly don't know.
Speaker 12 (25:55):
I bet you each year old has a good career,
batting bad batting against me. Somebody told me last night
that he was my thousand strikeout though, so that's pretty cool.
But I got a cool story. I mean, two thousand
and six, I was struggling trying to figure out I
needed a putout pitch. So we're trying to figure out.
I was trying to, you know, how to learn how
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to throw a cutter. Carl Willis and I went down
to the bullpen in Oakland and he showed me a
grip of how he threw his cutter. And I came
out of that bullpen with like an eighty two eighty
three mile an hour slider that I started throwing, and
I was like, oh, this thing is nasty. I can't
wait till my next start. We go from Oakland and Seattle.
Next time I get into a game, I take it
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out there, and the first time I throw it in
the game, each row hit it off the window.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
In my mind, I'm like, oh no, it's just easy.
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Like it's good because I'm getting out putt and I'm
getting strikes with and I'm like, no, it's good.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
He comes up the next time he hits it out again.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Who is the guy though that you could never figure out.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (26:58):
Man, it was a bunch. But I think Evan Longoria
was a guy that I'll be staying on the mout
be like, Man, I'm just I can't.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I got nothing for you but him.
Speaker 12 (27:08):
Manny Ramirez, you know, uh, Miguel Cabrera, you know, just
those quiet, right handed hitters that uh you know see
the strikes on.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Well, who's going to help you with your speech?
Speaker 12 (27:21):
I think everybody's gonna help me with my speech, you know,
I mean anybody that knows me. You know, I hate
standing up in front of people and you know, kind
of public speaking. So I'm gonna pull inspiration from everybody.
But I want to I want to make sure I
get it right. I want to make sure, you know,
I get I named the right people and and uh
you know, get people their just due because it wasn't
just me, you know the reason why. You know, I'm
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going to Cooper shown as a Yankee, hopefully as a Yankee, Yes,
as a Yankee.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Should the ballot be made public, the writers one one
person didn't vote for each your roll?
Speaker 12 (27:57):
Uh you know what, I don't think, So, I mean
I don't I don't like you know, worrying about who
didn't vote for who. I mean, it's you know, he's
in the Hall of Fame now, so what difference does
it make? You know, we spend so much time, you know,
worried about the negative and you know why he didn't
vote for eachiro. But let's talk about the three hundred
and ninety five votes he did get and you know,
him going to Cooperstown because he's well deserving of it.
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So you know, it's you know, it's just a you know,
something that you know in baseball we all all worry about.
In the other sports, it doesn't matter, right, it doesn't
matter what present of the vote you get. Once you
go in, you're in. So you know, it kind of
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Best player you played with in your career was who
ay Rod?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Wow? That was quick?
Speaker 12 (28:40):
Oh yeah, why give Robbie Alamar a close second?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Really?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
So what was it about a Rod that you take
him over everybody else?
Speaker 12 (28:51):
I mean, obviously just the talent that you know, I mean,
you know, six ' three, you know, third basement shortstop
at the time. You know, when I when I was
coming up the third basement of the time I played
with him, but his baseball IQ.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
His IQ was off the charge, the way he watches
the game, the way you said.
Speaker 12 (29:06):
You're sitting next to him on the bench, and you know,
he'd be like, Oh, we need to hit and run here,
Oh we need to double steal, or oh this team
is going to do this. He watches the game at
a different level than we all watched the game. And
you know, having a chance to play with him and
have him at third base, there'd be times when you know,
a guy be coming up and he'd be like, hey,
you know, throw a change up right here, this guy
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swinging first pitch, or you know this guy you know
he may be taking right here. So he would be,
you know, just watching the game and the IQ and
obviously putting the talent with that. You know, he was
the best player that I that I've ever got a
chance to be up close to.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Did you ever get to socialize with Jeter?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Oh? Yeah, I'm really close with Jeter. He was actually
just calling me right now.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I mean, yeah, he's upset that you said a Rod
over Jeter. But did you go out in New York? Like,
what what was it like when Jeter was out?
Speaker 11 (30:00):
Uh?
Speaker 12 (30:00):
I mean it was It's always a lot of fun
to go out with Jet and hang out with because
he takes all the attention, so like I can just
kind of like hang out and slide in and nobody's
gonna ask autographs or pictures or anything. And he just
kind of ride his coattail. So uh yeah, I mean
he was he was always really cool. I mean as
soon as I got here to New York, uh that
first bring training, me and him, Posada, you know all
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the guys, we got really close, and I think that
was the reason why we were able to win right away.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But you didn't sit there and go, who's uh Jeter dating? Now,
like who's who's that? Who's like his lineup card at
Yankee Stadium?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Oh no, that had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
But as an innocent bystander, you have to be like,
h it looks like, oh that is that's a favorite
famous act. Jeter is definitely gonna be calling you now hey,
uh congratulations, Uh and uh, don't be afraid. Don't be
afraid to a mote you know, you cry.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
We're right there with you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I appreciate it. Thank you, DP all right.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
At c C Sabbathia.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Now, if he cries, I'm going to say that he's
crying for me, just because that's what you do, because
I cry all the time. Hall of Famer CC Sabbathia
two hundred and fifty went. When he was with Milwaukee,
I think he was there for seventeen games three months.
He had seventeen starts. I think he might have been
eleven and two or something, eleven and two and like
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eight eight complete games, something like that. Seven complete games.
They used him, they knew they weren't going to keep him,
and it's like, hey, you're a rental. We're gonna use
you until you go to the Yankees. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Yeah, Cleveland traded him in the middle of the season
in two thousand and eight. He joins Milwaukee seventeen starts,
eleven and two, one point six five ERA, seven complete games,
three shoutouts. He averaged eight innings to start.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, those days are long gone, long gone. All right,
we'll take a break. Phone calls coming up. Joe Thomas
Brown's Hall of Famer next hour as well. We're back
after this.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
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Speaker 2 (32:13):
CC Sabbathia was talking about he couldn't get Evan Longoria out.
Longoria hit eight home runs off Sabbathia. He hit four
to ten off of him. He had seventeen extra bases.
Those were the most by any hitter against Sabbathia. There's
just certain guys, like pictures will talk about like I
couldn't get that guy out, and it's never the guy
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you think. It's always I couldn't. I couldn't figure out
Mark Lemke of the Braves, and you're like, huh. They're
just certain guys because I always thought that a pitcher,
you're gearing up for the really good players. It's the
other ones that you're not doing as much research or
homework or that you know you can get them out.
It's when the big time guy comes up, you forget
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about the other guy.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yes, Ton, Sometimes they have a.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
Certain adding stance that's distracting. There's all kinds of little
things that sometimes make it like why would that guy
be the one that you can't get out?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah, thank you too.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, we're gonna play in or out.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
You're either in or out.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Danny Hurley last night was in well Danny Hurley mode,
and he had a little back and forth. Maybe not
a back and forth. It was just a fourth with
an official during the game against Butler that went into overtime. So,
Marvin Yukon apologist, can you tell us what Danny Hurley
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said to the official?
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I can't say what he said exactly paraphrasing. Okay, you
know what, Paula, do you have the exact quote?
Speaker 9 (33:41):
The quote is? And I saw this posted quote don't
turn your back on me. I'm the best coach in
the blanking sport. I thought there was a joke because
I saw the video clip. That's actually what he said
in the moment to the right.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
All right, here is Danny Hurley, Yukon head coach at
the press conference.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
Think TV got you saying something, don't turn your back
on me, I'm the best coaching.
Speaker 13 (34:03):
Can I say that?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (34:07):
I mean, I know we you know I'm gonna sound
like it here, So you know, he just I want
to I want some level of communication.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know, as long as you're winning, you're okay with this.
Like Bob Knight got away with a lot of things,
and then Bob Knight start stopped winning and then he
didn't get away with those things. Danny Hurley is the
sport and I like that there. You're either you like
him or you don't like him. You know, he's he
is college basketball. It used to be Bobby Hurley, uh,
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and then Danny Hurley. Now Bobby Hurley is Danny Hurley's
big brother, because Danny Hurley is college basketball right now.
Players come and go one and done's coaches stay forever
turned down. The Lakers stayed at Yukon, and you could
have a camera on him. Like if I was the
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mother Ship or Fox and I was doing a game,
I would just have Hurley cam. Seaton went to the
game last night. How did it look with your your
your vantage point there?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Well, my vantage point was nowhere near. Oh you could
see what the coach is doing. I was in the
second to last row, all the way at the very top,
often referred to as the nosebleeds, And believe it or not,
I swear the guy sitting next to us had a
nose breed. He left before he left before the half
with his kid because he couldn't get his nose to
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stop bleeding. I swear, I swear, So he got a nosebleed.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
In the nosebleed.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Was we were in the nosebleeds and he literally had
a nosebleed, no joke.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Uh. You know he part of part of Dan Hurley's
quote too. It's like, I wish that they would show
these other coaches losing their minds too. Nobody does it
the way he does it. He does it in like
almost Jim Carrey like fashion, where who's got the face
and his mouth just turned upside down and you better
look at me, you better look at me. People aren't
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doing that. It's not nearly as cartoonish as he is.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
I think that's part of why the camera is on him,
because it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Nick Cronin at UCLA, but he's not winning championships, so
we look at him differently than we do Dan Hurley.
It's like, ah, there's a method to the madness. That
guy is a diabolical genius, yes, Marvin, But Mick.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Crona doesn't have any redeeming qualities either. When have you
ever seen him be the opposite? Like you know what,
just jovial at any point.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Plus throwing your players under the bus that doesn't go
over well, but figuratively throwing him.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Under the bus that would be bad. Yeah, not literally, literally.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Hurley is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's who he is, and people didn't recognize or realize
that's who he was until they started winning, and then
they're watching him because if he was at Wagner, I
don't know if anybody's really noticing, you know, his temper,
tantrums or sideline manners.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Yes, Marvin, the first time I saw him when I
was working at the Mother Show. We did a game
at u Are University of Rhode Island. This is exactly
who he's been. He was going crazy in a game
against George Mason. He was gone in Warwick, Rhode Island,
going crazy.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
So this is all.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
This is who he's always been. But we're noticing it
now because they're really good.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And it's not because hey, I'm on TV or this
is a big time opponent. This is who he is.
And his dad was that way too. Bobby doesn't coach
with that same kind of fire, but you know Bobby
Senior that that's the way he coached Bob Hurling, he
coached that way intense.
Speaker 12 (38:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And Danny, I mean Danny even said to us when
I said, you know, why'd you turn down the Lakers,
and you know, he basically said he kind of wanted
he has to mature. You know, I got to mature
a little bit more before I decided to do something
like that. So he knows and I you know, that's
why I like having him on because if I ask
a question, I get an answer from him. I want
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to know what your wife thinks when she sees you
do that? And does that conversation come up when you
get it home?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Mar what doesn't happen with every husband and wife? You
know who you married? I think all of all of
our wives have been at that moment where why is so?
So I can like that I know who I'm married.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
You don't think that his wife is surprised. Sometimes she
knows who she met.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
They've been together since he was at.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Sea and Hall, Yeah, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Think she's seen a couple of outbursts at Wagner and.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
You are I yeah, yeah, she's definitely not surprised by this.
Uh time to play in or out.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
You're either in or you're out.
Speaker 9 (39:00):
Paul, rapid fire, Dan, Okay, the Lions are going to
be fine, Todd, I'm in.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Stan What what does fine mean?
Speaker 9 (39:12):
A serious Super Bowl contender for the next few seasons.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
I'm out, whoa, Marvin? I mean, I'm in.
Speaker 9 (39:21):
I love snowy NFL playoff games.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Todd in satan out out in.
Speaker 9 (39:31):
It's becoming autish lately. People are not enjoying snow football
when it really really matters.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, I want to make sure that we can still
see the yardage, we can see the numbers. We you know,
we we have an idea that there's a football field
down there.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Yeah, sedon, do you want to see Usain Bolt run
on a clean track or on one of the covered
with snow?
Speaker 9 (39:52):
I actually would like to see him on snow really
just one time?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Yeah, okay, yeah, just one time. It's fine. You see
the big slates, the snowflakes falling. Look at that. Look
at seventy eight was the best one ever. And then
I don't want to see that. I don't want see
dudes shuffling around. They look like me trying to run.
I to hate that.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
What else?
Speaker 9 (40:10):
Paul, here we go, Ohio States. Ryan Day should be
a hotter. Oh sorry, Ryan Day should be a hotter.
NFL coaching candidate Todd out setan.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Out Marvin out, I'm out.
Speaker 9 (40:27):
Interesting a guy relatively young, wins a lot of football games,
and no one throws his name around for the NFL.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Was that an in?
Speaker 4 (40:36):
I know you or you?
Speaker 5 (40:39):
You haven't weighed in, but you said.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
The first thing you said was in Tristing, Tristing.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
I'm in.
Speaker 9 (40:45):
I don't understand it. Whether you like him or dislike him,
usually success equals offers.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 9 (40:52):
A couple of heavies. Tom Brady has whiffed so far
with the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
Todd out remains to be seen.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Satan.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
I'm not still one hundred percent sure that he's the
one doing it, but he has not done well, so
that means I'm in correct, right, Okay, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
I'm out.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I'm in. I think he wanted Ben Johnson.
Speaker 9 (41:13):
Last one, real fast, Dione Sanders next football job will
be in college football.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Todd in staying with Boulder Seaton in Marvin and his
next job after Colorado, Yes out, final hour in the way.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Hope you're in