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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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around the country. Poll question Seaton, what are we gonna
go with final hour of the program.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, we're putting up there. Opening your season with a
cupcake is smart? Soft? It seems like most sports do it.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yes, I would open up with a substandard opponent.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It kind of feels like that opening game has taken
the place of what used to be scrimmages. Yeah, set
up a couple of couple of friendlies here and there,
and you do that and figure out work out the
kinks a bit, and then you start playing. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I don't have any problem. It's a long season.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I you know, jumping out of the gate and all
of a sudden you're matching up with Duke I mean,
would I like to see that? And you do have
some matchups coming up next week? I think you know
these are made for TV matchups there, but yeah, I
have no problem if you're going to start out with
Sacred Heart, if you're Connecticut or if you're Arkansas Lipskin, Yes, Pauline.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
It gets a lot tougher for U. Kon Mark backed
me up. They host New Hampshire, they host Lemoyne, and
they host Texas A and M Commerce.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Oh Commerce, Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Okay Texas A and MC.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yes, Texas A and M desh C. Corrected, put some
respect on their name.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hello, Texas A and M desh C.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, Chris Collins were a NBC Football Night in America
color analyst and Lions in the Texans A first placed
match up here. Mike Trico will be there also, Melissa
Stark will be there as well. That'll be Sunday at
eight o'clock. Do you remember when you were in college
at Florida did you guys open up with like a
cupcake each year?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Dude, I don't remember college at all. Man, I don't
remember did we open with a cupcake? The first time
I ever played? No, it was SMU was the first
one we actually won California was one game and the
other one I don't know.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
I've tried to forget. My junior year, we didn't win
a game, so I just try to take that one
off the map.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Did you go to class like every other student?
Speaker 8 (02:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Yeah, well I was. I got an accounting degree, so
it's like you kind of.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Had to go.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But the way college athletics are now, if you were
going to pick any school, I'd say, you're going to Georgia, Florida.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Would you are you required to go to class?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Because Jamar Chase had this answer, and it was like, oh,
studying for a final, like you know, I said, feel
like that going to class?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And he goes, I didn't study in college?
Speaker 7 (03:04):
Yeah, you know, No wonder LSU whipped our ass all
the time.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
You know, I think that you can do as little
or as much as you want in school and and
probably get away with it to some extent. Most schools
have places where you can run and hide and if
you're really not interested. But it just seemed like an
incredible waste of time to be there and not actually try.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
All right, let me let me talk about some football questions. Now,
if the Bengals lose tonight, finish, finish that sentence.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
Not over.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
I don't think it's over because of the seven playoff
teams that are in the mix. Now, it's a team
fully capable of going on a run, and because of
their offense. I think it always comes down in this
lead to you know, you have to be able to
consistently get up over twenty four points to have a
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chance to win consistently, and they're going to do that.
I think Joe's been hot, He's been playing well. This
hasn't been the Ravens best year on defense, so maybe
they can score some points. But you know, not having
T Higgins or having Higgins in and out of the
lineup this year has just it's hurt this team, you know.
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I mean, they've they've got the SICKI has come in
there and played well this Chase Brown has been a
great surprise at the running back position for the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But Baltimore's good.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
You know, I mean, they just they just have a
way of doing more things than most teams can stop.
And Derrick Henry has been fabulous and probably deserves to
be in the MVP. Conversation and the whole thing. But
it's the it's the style that has made that right.
If Derrick Henry had gone to Dallas, I don't think
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he's having this kind of year, you know, But you
match him up with Lamar, and all of a sudden,
this looks like one of those teams that on any
given day can beat anybody as great as Detroit's playing,
as great as Kansas City's planned on any given day,
you do not want to see the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But this feels like the game going into the game
is about the Bengals. If the Ravens lose, it feels
like it'll be about the Ravens for some reason that
every time we build him up, you know, like this
is the team that nobody wants to face. They could
be the best team in football or AFC, and we
you know, we've seen this before with them, So it
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feels like a loss is about the Ravens.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Well, it would be two in a row, right if
they came off and got beat by the Browns and
the Bengals, and back to back weeks and the Bengals
at home, that would certainly be a bit of an indictment.
For them, but games or divisional games, and give everybody
notice that you spend all off season getting ready for
three teams, and whatever comes along on your schedule after that,
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you just prepare in a week's time. But those three teams,
those six games generally decide how you're going to do.
And the Bengals, you know, there have been just magical
moments between these two teams going back. Exciting game, really
important game for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
It's probably a bigger indictment of the Ravens if they
get beat at home.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
If the Chiefs would lose Mahomes, what odds would you
give them of still being able to three peat with
Carson Wentz in there.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
I'd like to see Carson in that offense. We've been
out there, We've done them once or twice. I feel
like I live in Kansas City, but I think to
completely dismiss Andy Reid and what he can do with
that offense would be a mistake. Kareem Hunt's been pretty
dang good. They've added to a wide receiver position now
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that is definitely helping the cause. But they wouldn't be
my favorite to win the Super Bowl anymore. But I
to completely say they couldn't win three games in a
row and make it to the Super Bowl. I don't
think I would go that far yet without seeing him
in there.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Chris collins Worth will be on the call with Mike
Tarico Sunday Night Football. It's the Lions and the Texans.
Make a case against Jared Goff for an MVP.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
The team around him, you know, I think would have
to be the answer to that question. His numbers are spectacular.
They're very much a They're a play action team. They're
a team that is built around that offensive line and
run the football. This team runs the ball more in
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second and long and third and long situations than any
team maybe I've ever seen in my life, and they'll
go for it on fourth down. But you consistently see
breakout runs from Montgomery and Gibbs. You consistently see Jared
Goff going to not just a second receiver, a third receiver,
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a fourth receiver, and occasionally a fifth receiver. They will
get five receivers out put tremendous pressure on the offensive
line to have to hold up in one on one
blocks basically across the board. They do it consistently They
will give up some sacks periodically, but I think it's
more a product of what they want to do getting
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people out and Jared Goff, as he's discussed with us
this year, he's not going to lose the game for him.
I mean, that's really his goal. He is very systematic
in what he's trying to do. He is not going
to give him the cheap turnovers, He's not going to
give him the cheap fumble sack, all of that and
rely on the team.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
Now.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
A big chunk of this, whether or not they're going
to be able to win a Super Bowl is going
to come down to They have to get better at
the pass rush. Their pass rush on the edge right
now is just not good enough. And they of course
signed Zadarius Smith, who is an older player but a
dynamic guy in the locker room. I don't know if
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you've ever had him on the show or not, but
you would love having a conversation with this guy. Just
full of energy and just fits the Lions to a t.
But probably the thing that happened to them is Alee
McNeil has really turned into a star player. I don't
know how many people know him. Number fifty four the
defensive tackle. They pair him up with DJ Reader inside there,
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and the secondary has gotten a lot better since they
moved Brian Branch back to safety. He and Kirby Joseph
have been unbelievable. Joseph with six picks, Branch with four picks.
This is a defense that has finally gotten to that
man coverage kind of team that they want to be
able to do. And they're tough, but they're pass rush
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at least as it's been the last couple of weeks
without Hutchinson is not good enough to win at all.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, And I've been talking about Golf being an MVP
candidate because he's had a six game stretch that's unheard of,
you know, completing eighty three percent of his passes, you know,
more touchdown you know what once he got feign completions
less than the touchdowns he's thrown. I mean, these are
historical numbers, and they're the team to beat in the NFC.
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So I do think he should be in on that
short list.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Oh, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
You told me to make a.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Case against us.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, I was curious what the case would be against him,
because I think we can all agree what he's done.
I don't think he's going to get the credit, and
I think it's because it goes back to the rams
that he was discarded. Like here, take some draft picks,
go to Detroit, we want Matthew Stafford and they won.
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But the guy's been to a super Bowl, could have
gone to another super Bowl, And here he is having
a borderline historical season, and I do think he should
be on that short list for MVP candidates. Is there
a new offensive trend or a defensive trend that's going
on right in front of us that we might not
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be aware of.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
I don't know if it's going on right in front
of you, but it's clearly what Minnesota is dealing with.
Brian Flores, I think is almost what you have to
do because it allows you. And I don't want to
insult the Minnesota Vikings defensive players, but you can because
you overwhelm offenses with the number of people that you
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rush or the number of people that you drop back
in coverage. You can get away with those sort of
tweener players that are part rushers but are athletic enough
to get back in coverage and also play. So a
lot of times you'll see them dropping you know, they'll
rush six and then the next play they'll drop eight,
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and they'll be able to do all these different things.
But the thing that I really like, the big change
that's come out of that defense, is that they used
to all play like cover zero when they blitz like that,
and cover zero basically means no free safety, no deep help.
You're one on one, generally playing off the ball or
bumping run, but if you lose one on one, that
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could be a seventy yard touchdown, right, And that fear
factor kept most teams out of trying to do that.
Now we're seeing a lot of that same thing. In
Minnesota basically had cut in half the number of cover
zeros that they had, So now they've got a team
that can play three deep zone behind it only two
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guys underneath, and still rush five and come after and
try and confuse your quarterback, but they don't have the
risk of giving up the seventy yard touchdown. And so
that that ability to create the constant feel of pressure.
I mean, in the game we did the other night,
Joe Flacco could feel pressure on almost every play, but
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he didn't have the option of attacking them with home
run balls. When they're basically attacking him with home run defenses.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Good to talk to you. We'll be watching Sunday Night.
Thank you, Chris II. Buddy, that's Chris collins Worth. You'll
be on the call Lions Texans. That'll be Sunday Night,
Mike Jerico, Melissa Stark. They'll kick off at eight twenty
Eastern on NBC and Peacock Zach and Cincinnati. Hi, Zach,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (13:42):
Dan? Can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yes? I can? Zack?
Speaker 9 (13:44):
Hey, how you doing five to ten?
Speaker 10 (13:46):
Two forty?
Speaker 9 (13:49):
All right? So I've been here in Seaton talking all
this crap about my bang was all week long. He's
out out out, well, I'm in and tonight they win
and then also they make the playoffs this year. Looking
for a pie to the face bet to seat and.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
See I'm in in on that pile to the face bet.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Okay, there you go, Zach, you gotta take her.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, Paul, that almost seemed bigger than a standard pie,
like he was really getting in the seatans grill as
they said he was. I would I would love to
up that bet a.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Little bit, like a hand lose a hand Somewhere between.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
A year somewhere between pie and losing a limb.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
A tattoo.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
You have to shave your eyebrows off.
Speaker 11 (14:31):
I know.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
People would get so like, I don't know aggressive when
we would have these bets. Loser asked to good, you know,
tattoo the United States on their back and be like
not slow down, slow down.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
You have to get the red Sluts logo tattooed on
your face.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Why because I called the World Series wrong?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Why you're gonna pay? I was gonna make you pay?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Would I do that?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, We're just We're just a friend show.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
We're having a pie to the face unless it's Michael
Irvin who gives me a pie to the face, and
he actually gave me the Heisman nearly broke myelk. I
was bleeding after Mike. He didn't understand the concept of
a pie to the face.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
He would have been called for targeting.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He would have put me in concussion protocol. All right,
more phone calls coming up. We have to do our
dour rankings as well, and Greg McElroy, the mothership ESPN
college football analyst, will stop by as well. Got a
lot to cover here in the next forty minutes or so.
Back after this.
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Speaker 2 (15:41):
I was watching some action last night, Ohio be Kent
State forty one to nothing. Kent State is zero to
nine and has been outscored by an average of almost
thirty one points per game. They are on pace to
be the first team to lose all of their games
by an average of at least thirty points since the
twenty fifteen Kansas Jayhawks went oh to twelve.
Speaker 11 (16:05):
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the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. If
there was relegation in college football, Kent State would be relegated.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Time to play dour.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Rankings before we talked to Greg McElroy of the Mothership,
So Paulie lead us off with dour ranking.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Now, this could be any sport, any team, any person,
just something that feels really bad. You can either feel
bad for them or they're just dour. The situation Okay,
I would like to go first. The Philadelphia seventy six
ers are one and six, and I know it's early,
but it feels like they're going the wrong direction quickly.
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I know their star center is injured. They've got Maxi,
who's a very very good young player, and then a
bunch of old dudes around him about three you know,
last year, the year before, and the year before that,
first or second in the division, very threatening with Doc Rivers.
They feel like they're going the wrong direction quickly.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Todd Dower rankings.
Speaker 12 (17:17):
I am dowur on my Denver Broncos defense, which I
was so excited about. In the first games of the year.
They were leading in the ranks of all the defensive categories,
or at least some of them. They let the Ravens
put up forty one on them. Now they have the
Chiefs coming up. If they don't have at least a
close game, I'm going to be concerned about the Denver
moving forward.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I think cheating Dower rankings.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I'm gonna say I'm dour on JJ Reddick, Wow, the
Lakers head coach.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay, I think JJ Reddick.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
The TV analyst would be crushing JJ Reddick the Lakers
coach right now?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
All right?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
He basically said, Lebron's the only player here that plays hard,
which is not going to help the I was brought
in just to coach Lebron.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Marvin, do we have that quote? Do we actually have
him saying that? Can we find that? Grabbing it right now? Yeah,
I'd be curious just the context of that.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But yeah, verbatim what I just said, that's essentially the
cliffs Notes version of it. Okay, Uh, he said D'Angelo
Russell doesn't play hard at all. I agree with that directly.
I agree with that, all right. And I don't know
if he has a very good team there that all right?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Four?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
JJ Reddick is I'm a little dour, Okay, nothing personal,
it's not anything. I hope that it turns around and
eat as well, of course.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
But Marvin Dower rankings.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
The Milwaukee Bucks, you know, at one and six, Damon
Giannis don't look like they're meshing, and Doc Rivers is
just he's got Darvin Hammers's assistant. So wow, take that
for what you will.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Every time I tune in and I watch the Bucks
and they show Doc on the sidelines, I just get
the feeling he'd rather be anywhere than where he is,
and you could stayed in the TV booth like you're okay,
you got an NBA title. You could have just been
a broadcaster for the next ten to fifteen years. And
then I'm gonna be on the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I can't. I can't give it up.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
You want to challenge myself.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
I don't want to just sit in the booth, sit
in the studio.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
That's that's fair. That's where I went.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Another title on the bench with the guys.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I'm a coach, I'm not a broadcaster.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
All right, all right, Doc, I get it. I understand
that we'll turn it around. We'll turn things around.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Kent State is my leader in dour rankings piling on. Yeah,
I know, and I watched and I just you know, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
That's where you lose. But you're really it's more than
just a loss.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mean, you're losing forty one to nothing, and you're
losing by an average of thirty one points per game.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, Paul, just.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Three years ago they were in the famous Idaho p tatable.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
But that's thinking, Yeah, how the mighty have fallen off?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, but it's like the white socks a couple of
years ago they were the future of baseball, it felt like,
and then you have this season. This is Ken State's
version of the Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, all right, a.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Couple of phone calls, then let me know when Greg
McElroy joins us, Fritzy, Michael, and Fort Wayne. Hey, Mike,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (20:18):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (20:18):
Good morning, Dan and Dennis. Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 11 (20:20):
Sure, your topic in the first hour about Mike Tyson
got me sinking, And I'd like to know your thoughts.
Having lived and reported through this era. If you could
go back in time and see one Michael in their prime,
who would you pick, Mike Tyson, Michael Jordan or Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, I got to see them all.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If I hadn't, Well, Jordan is the greatest of all time.
Tyson was not the greatest heavyweight. He wasn't even close
to being the greatest heavyweight. Now was it a thing like?
There was nothing like a heavyweight title fight? I can't.
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I can never describe it appropriately. When all of a
sudden it starts and you get in the ring and
just it's just those two guys. There's just something about it.
It was awesome. Now, I did get to see Sugar
Ray Leonard fight and Marvin Hagler, I mean RAYMANC. I
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mean there's so many Alexis Argueo, Aaron pryor so many
different great boxers. There was nothing like watching the beginning
of a heavyweight title fight. So that was magical. But
I mean watching Mike. We got to the point with
Mike where you just took him for granted. I get
just like Mike put up thirty five, Mike put up forty.
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Tyson was always he was going to win. It was
just how did it look when he was going to win?
So I would say probably Mike Tyson. Greg McElroy, ESPN
College football analyst. He's calling Georgia Ole Miss Saturday, three
thirty Eastern on ABC and a co host of Mac
and Cube in the Morning in Alabama, wjo X. How's morale?
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How are you feeling?
Speaker 8 (22:17):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Buddy?
Speaker 8 (22:18):
It's been a long time. How's everything been?
Speaker 9 (22:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
It sounds like you're getting important here and you kind of,
you know, you start to kick people to the curb.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I get it.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
I just missed the good old days where we just
you know, went scorts to earth on people and took
wonderli tests. Why don't we just do that? I mean,
what's old is new? Let's let's let's do it again.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
When's the last time you used the expression d's nuts?
Speaker 8 (22:44):
I think my last conversation with coach Saban, so that
would have been in July.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
You you're probably not surprised of what he's doing on TV.
I think I think most of America probably is, because
these guys are buttoned up. It's like Belichick. You know
the number of players who say you got to be
around Belichick. He'd got a great sense of humor. I go, well,
he's never going to show it to me. I saw
glimpses of that with Saban, But what do you see
when you you know, you're watching Game Day with him?
Speaker 11 (23:17):
Well?
Speaker 8 (23:17):
I find it so funny because I was really curious,
like you, and not that I knew he'd be good.
He's got great acumen, and he's he's funny and witty,
and he's constantly jabbing, and so I thought that it
would carry over. I just didn't know how much of
himself we'd see. You know, I thought he'd maybe be
a bit guarded, a little tentative early, but the dynamic
between him and McAfee cracks me up. Man, I don't
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know what I mean. Whether McAfee's feeding him or he's
making him take his tie off, like, whatever the circumstances are.
It's it's been pretty funny. So see two guys that
are kind of opposite ends of the spectrum. Has been hilarious.
But I think he's done great. But are you surprised,
Like you've been around him enough, it's just not that surprising.
I think people thought you were going to get some
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press conference setting Saban where he's trying to im force
this type of cadence so that he can communicate with
his players, But that's not really how he is behind
closed doors.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, he'd had to go to press conferences. He gets
to go to college game day. And I think him
and McAfee are like a buddy movie where you know
they're just completely opposite.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
And I think Saban is enough of a competitor.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You want to keep up with the level of everybody
around you, you know, whether it's Reese or Desmond or
Herbie McAfee in there. You want to make sure your
level is the same, your energy is the same. And
I think the surroundings he's out in the environment there and.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
You could see it. It kind of he absorbs it.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I was going to ask you about, you know, how
the college football regular season has been impacted this year
because of the new playoff system. How would you sum
that up?
Speaker 8 (24:52):
It's a great I was really concerned about it, Dan,
Like I wouldn't have probably said that publicly, but I
was concerned that the one thing that we really had
in our bag as a college, as college football fans,
and as people to cover the sport was the doer
de nature of the sport, and that that concerned me
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that if we got rid of that, would the reaction
be as strong And a lot of what makes our
sport unique is that we have that debate about who
should be, who is you know, who could be if
given the opportunity, the playing field was leveled, this team
could do whatever. Like that debate has raged on for
one hundred plus years now. We have slowly but surely
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moved away from the debate to playoff formats that are
more digestible for fans that don't live it every day.
But I was concerned, and I don't know if we
know just yet what the long term impact will be,
because if we start seeing Ohio State Oregon three times
a year, Will that matchup that they play in October
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mean as much that I'm genuinely curious about. So I
don't know if we'll know the impact yet, But I
still get the same reaction from fans every Monday if
their team lost, even though they know, hey, we lost
in the end of the day, like we're still in
the playoff mix. But Texas was freaking out when they
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lost the way they lost to Georgia, and Georgia was
freaking out with the way they lost to Bama. And
I'm sure Ohio State fans were freaking out with how
things finished the end of at Oregon. And I'm sure
Penn State feels like their life is over after last week.
So the reaction is still as strong as ever, even
though you're afforded opportunities to screw up and still have
a chance.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Feels like when people see the brackets and they see
Byu in the quarterfinals, that's when you're going to have
some people upset. They're like, wait, wait, wait a minute,
wait a minute, you got these first round matchups and
then Byu is right there, yeah, and they're going.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
To say, here's the other thing that's funny is and
I think this will be funny because people are going
to look at it and say, hang on a second.
So in this conference that we just had to navigate,
we had to beat Texas, Georgia at ole, Miss Florida
at home a neutral site against Arkansas, and our reward
is the same as the team that did not play
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a single team in the top twenty five, and they
have beaten a bunch of teams that have lost that are,
you know, eight and four, seven to five. It's just
I think that's where people are gonna be like, hey,
on a second, why is the reward for winning the
Big ten the same as we're winning for the Big twelve?
And I think that's where we could find some some
chaos in the future.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, that's what I wonder the tweaks that are going
to be made because we're never satisfied.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
We're going to tweak it.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
We're eventually going to probably have twenty four teams, not twelve.
We're eventually going to go to a pro system. I mean,
this is all headed towards you know, it feels like
a conclusion that we've been waiting for. Do you feel
that way that this is this is where the sports headed,
whether you want you or not. Yeah, it feels like
that's where we're going.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
I think we're heading to further expansion to what number
we get to. I think sixteen is most likely, because
people are going to look at it and say, all right, well,
I want a home game in the playoffs, and now
I like having a bye week, that's great, but our
fans want a home game in the playoffs. And while
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the conference championship games have been really valuable for a
really long time, to the commissioners and the decision makers
eventually determine, all right, is the conference championship game as
impactful as it once was under the previous format, or
are we better suited maybe getting rid of the conference
championship game in favor of more home playoff game environments.
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And that's what I think will be the conversation that's
had down the road. I think we will in the
near term expand as fourteen so that the Big ten
and the SEC are given that first round by and
everybody else has to play a first round game because
right now, for the Big twelve champ to get the
same thing as the SEC champions is ridiculous. So I
think at some point that's where we'll get to, but
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I'm not sure they'll be done at fourteen. I would
imagine sixteen is the most likely. Twenty four feels bloated.
I don't think we'll get there, but I could certainly
see sixteen at some point in the future.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Have they capped what is it twenty one million dollars
you can spend on your roster?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Is that? Is that the number?
Speaker 8 (29:21):
It's dependent on the settlement, which they're estimating somewhere between
twenty and twenty three. Okay, so I don't know if
they know exactly where that's headed, but it'll be somewhere
in that vicinity.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yes, and SMU is spending that kind of I know
Ohio State did, but here comes SMU, and now it's
above board.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
They could do it legally.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
They don't have to give out trans ams or houses
or anything.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
As someone that's from the Dallas Fort Worth area, I
think SMU could easily eclipse twenty one million dollars. I
think the term was said by people in that closed
door meeting that said, hey, yeah, we won't take a
single dollar of television revenue for the main years. You
just let us in and what their reaction was. It's
only a couple hundred million. It's not that that was
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that was the reaction. Yeah, a couple hundred million, No problems,
six to seven of us, right, Okay, I'm going to
give you this.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
You can have SMU's future, yeah, or USC's.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Oh it's a good question. Can I I think SMU
has the better path, but I'd rather be in the
big ten.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
I just don't know what's going to happen with the ACC.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
But it's closed, which is really what the answer is
here that that's then.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
But it's like you said, and I think that you
are going to be at a unique advantage. This is
just like next level Dan, So excuse me for pontificating.
I'm curious if your thoughts on this. I think there's
a certain built in accountability in small towns where the
players are extremely recognizable. So if you're in say Clemson,
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South Carolina, it's really hard for you to if you're
making a million bucks of years the starting quarterback, it's
hard for you to go out in public and live
like a rock star because everybody's gonna know, oh, hey
there's Kaid Klubnik. He's out at the bars on the
Thursday night, but at Miami or at La or in Dallas,
like you can kind of you can fly under the
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radar a little bit, and now you can keep up
with the Jones as if you're making a million bucks
a year. So I do have a theory that small
town teams will be more successful in the long term,
but that's only because of the accountability that's kind of
built in in the community like that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I was in a steakhouse in an sec city and
there was a very expensive car out front and it
was running and I said to the owner, I said,
whose car is that? And then he told me who
it was, and it was a play for the football team,
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personalized license plate like it you couldn't have if you
were trying you wanted everybody to see. He did a
great job in letting everybody see that's my car. And
I'm like, yowly, that's an expensive car out there, and
he just left it running while he was inside getting
something to eat. I was like, all right, you didn't
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get that at Alabama though, right, No.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
No one that would require an expensive steakhouse in Tuscaloosa,
and at the time we did not have that. We
had a couple of nice restaurants, but no I had
I'm talking about the car. You know, you weren't offered anything. No,
I had a a ten year old Ford f one
fifty when I was in college and my dad and
I had a bet my last year that if we
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won the SEC we would trade and he had.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
A Range River.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
So I got to drive a Range River my last
year because.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I want my dad.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
But no, people probably.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
One hundred. That was the best part. It was right
of a check now not the case. It was dad's car.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Okay, all right, I'll take your word for it. Uh,
glad you're doing well. Great to talk to you again.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Great to see a DP. Hope you're well man.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's Greg McIlroy. He won a national championship back in
twenty ten.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Is the event, Scott? I mean ABC? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Give him commitment, you know, give him, you know, credit
credit for the commitment.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
No, No, what's my dad's car?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I didn't what you think mine?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And uh he's got Ole Miss in Georgia coming up
at thirty eastern on ABC.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
We're gonna, you know, see, it's cute that fifteen years
later he's sticking with the dance car story. Give him commitment.
You know, I give them to you know, credit, credit
for the commitment. Yeah, yeah, no, No, what's my dad's car?
I didn't what you think it's mine?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Is my dad's car?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Sometimes you forget the lies that you tell. You're like, no, no, wait,
what did I say?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
It?
Speaker 8 (34:17):
All?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Got a range row?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah, I got a range row from my dad. Yeah. Yeah,
that's right. Now I remember the store.
Speaker 11 (34:25):
All right.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We'll take a break. Last call for phone calls. What
we learn once in store tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
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Speaker 2 (34:40):
Last call for phone calls, What we learn once in
store tomorrow. Also, you write the headline today for tomorrow
with the Thursday night game, Sports history, final results of
the poll question.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
That's a quick show. How did we get to Thursday already?
I don't know if you guys feel the same way
these weeks.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Just why the more fun the faster the show period
period in the history of the show. The funner it is,
if that's a word, the.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Faster it is, it might be funnerist.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Yes, we are the funnerst So people would say in
that is.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
That a word time the funner?
Speaker 12 (35:18):
I don't think so. Okay, funny year, but not funner
funner more fun.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Yeah, all right, thank you. This day in sports history, Paul,
what do you What are you sitting on? I got
a couple.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I'm squatting on. New Jersey nineteen seventy three became the
first US state to permit girls to play Little League baseball.
Nineteen eighty three, Blank Kicker for the New York Giants
kicked his second fifty six yard field goal in the game.
Very fun name to say. Kicker out of Michigan. Ah,
you got it, Ali Ali Haich, I saw you going there.
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And bonus coverage.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
But who was the Northern Iowa?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Ali Ali? Why is that?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I know?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Opening round of March Madness?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
He took down Kansas.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Nineteen ninety nine, Tiger Woods became the first golfer since
Ben Hogan in fifty three to win four straight tournaments.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Over Rated.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
It's fun to say overrated by someone who's.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Out This day in nineteen ninety one, I'm sitting on
the Sports Center set and I'm ready to throw it
out to a press conference as Magic Johnson announces he
has HIV, retiring from the Lakers. Still one of those
surreal moments understanding what HIV was. Magic is retiring. And
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when we got word of that, I just it was
in the afternoon. I think it was early afternoon. Put
on a suit and tie, and all of a sudden,
Sports Center Rundown changed dramatically that day.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
All right, you write the headline, Todd, I have two.
Speaker 12 (36:58):
If you'll humor me, I hope I make a.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Really quick Okay, well, if you humor me, that would
be beneficial as well.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
My first one was in purple tuity Raven's route keeps
scoring on Cincy.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I'm fine with that. In purple too, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 12 (37:12):
And my other one was a little musical thing. Anyhu,
the sun will come out. Joe Borrow, So you gotta
hang on, dude, Joe Borrow, Joe Borrow, Joe Borrow. I
want you, Joe Borrow. You're not gonna win two day.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I respect the effort. Next I do, Joe Burrow, uh Seaton,
you want to try to top that.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Todd is feeling a little heat from East Caroline from earlier,
and so he had to come up and write a song.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh is that what it was?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Because we gave East Caroline.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
That last one was off the top. It was off
the top of the dome. Okay, and write it and then.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You were a freestyling Thetan. Yeah, okay, right. Tomorrow's headline today.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Joe Sorrow, Wow, Joe Sorrow, Burrow Sorrow Bengals season in
said state?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Did Todd help you? Rhyme that one?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I came up with that one off four head four
hours ago.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Marvin, how about you give Zay his flowers.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Ravens beat the Bengals, all right, Pauli purple rain, Ravens
go crazy on Bengals. Let's go crazy forgetting deeper cut.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
R E I and I mean g and r e
y rain like rain? Where is it rain?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Like Prince Shelby Shelby in Minnesota. Yeah, like Prince Shelby
in Minnesota. Hi Shelby, thanks for holding.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
Hey morning, DP Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, Hey,
just wanted to you were having a debate yesterday between
Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. I just wanted to see
where you stood with Drew Brees on that list. You know,
he beat Manning in a Super Bowl when he lands one,
he's second behind Brady and yards touchdowns five all pros,
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but he doesn't have an MVP. So well, I'm just
gonna see where you put Drew Brees in that. And
then last thing, wasn't sure if you all announced the
date for the yule log being released.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
We have not for Crappensburg State. I think we're working
on that. We're trying to see if we can get
a partner for a yule log for Crappensburg State for
your holiday fires.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I would still you know, Peyton, Aaron, and then Drew Brees.
I guess probably if you're asking me to give you
the list in that order.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Seating fund of results of the poll.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Question is opening your season with a cupcake? Smart? Or saw?
It's very directed at It is a more complicated answer
really than just those two, but right now sixty three
percent of the audience say it's smart.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I think it's smart too.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
I like, I feel like sports in general, but I
like teams leaning into like in state things, yes, or
you know, like sort of regional rivalries. I love if
you're just bringing in a random team from like Tennessee
and you're in uh not Tennessee like, I don't know
if this really makes a lot of sense, But a
bigger school playing a smaller school in state and creating
that dynamic.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I love that, Todd.
Speaker 12 (40:19):
Would you learn today Greg McElroy drove a range Rover
his senior year Alabama because he won a bet with
his dad to trade cards with his He.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Has no connor.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Would you learn Greg McElroy sticks with a bit.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, Marvin Jamar Chase did not study Paul.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Looking at his wall of shoes, it's clear that Vincent
Goodwill is clearly single.
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