November 13, 2024 • 40 mins
Former NFL QB Kurt Warner joins Dan and discusses why Caleb Williams is failing right now and why some Bears players wanted him benched. And college football insider Andy Staples stops by to discuss the college football season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Dan and The Dan Edge Stan Patrick Show.
More on the college football rankings playoff format coming up.
Kurt Warner will join us as well. The Bears situation.
Now word got out that some of the players wanted
Caleb Williams benched college football. The top four Oregon, Ohio State,
Texas and Penn State. You have Indiana at five. Georgia
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is at twelve, but if the playoffs started today, Georgia
would not be in the playoffs. NBA Cup underway. Steph
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last night as Clay came back to Golden State. Cooper
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against Justin Herbert and the Chargers Sunday seven Eastern on
NBC and Peacock. A couple of phone calls in here
as we wait for Kurt Warner. Marcus in Mississippi. Hey Marcus,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. Second time, long time. Listen, Dan,
I'm so glad that Sceedon brought this topic up. I
wanted to weigh in on the poll question. Listen. The
fact that dentist still talk to you and ask you
questions in twenty twenty four is it's just preposterous. So
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five years ago, I just made a judgment call and
I said, I'm wherever I go into the dentist, I'm
just going we can do the banter. Hey, how's your family?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Good? Good?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But when I sit down and let's go Tom, I
act like I'm asleep.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, thank you, Marcus. I don't mind the dentist talking,
but have rhetorical questions then I don't have to answer
and you can just talk. If that, you know, is
supposed to make us more comfortable, you know, ease the
tension there being in the dentist's chair, than fine, but
certainly bothers seat.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yes, Paul, you can't sleep or even pretend to sleep,
because often they're saying turn your head a little bit,
open up a little more, move your tongue to the left.
You know they're giving you, you know, like waving in.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
At the airport.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
As Kurt Warner said, to join us there, the Hall
of Famer, MVP of Super Bowl, two time NFL MVP,
and you can hear him on Westwood One as their
analyst and NFL network analyst as well. Good to talk
to you again. Can you explain to me how benching
Caleb Williams in Chicago would be better official for both
the Bears and Caleb Williams Dan.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Good to be with you. It's been a while just
to start there. Yeah, I think we see so often
in this league, these young guys come in slated to
be the starter. We throw them in and they don't
have the tools, they don't have the information skill set
that they need to succeed at the NFL level. And
so a lot of these guys are simply what I
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call surviving. It's like, here, take the ball and run
out there and try to do whatever you can to
be successful without us giving you the tools that you
need to be able to do it. And so I
know it's always hard to go with the young guy
and then pull back from a young guy. It's why
I'm always a proponent of starting the old guy and
then you can work to the young guy when they're ready.
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But yeah, I think it could be beneficial to let
Caleb step back and to let him kind of see
how it's done, get acclimated with what the speed is
and what the complexity is and what we're asking him
to do within these pro offenses, and then when he's reinserted,
he is in a position to fully succeed, which is
both beneficial for him and obviously beneficial for the organization
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as well.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
How long did you sit before you got your opportunity
with the ramp.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, I mean I sat for a full year, so
I was on the team even.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Before that, you were on practice squads and.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, I mean, you know, I was actually all over
the world, Dan, so I wasn't on a practice squad
before that. Just ninety eight was my first year. So
I was kind of the scout team quarterback in ninety
eight and then obviously took over ninety nine when Trent
got hurt. But you know, but again, this is twofold,
is that even though I sat on the bench for
four years in college and played in arena football and
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what have you, I had the skill set in terms
of understanding how to play the position the way it
was asked to play it. In the NFL, the understanding
of how to read defense is see things, process information.
So so yeah, sitting could be beneficial without a doubt.
But to me, it's so much about do you have
the skill set where playing you'll learn and grow through playing,
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but you've got enough of a skill set to be successful.
And I was talking a little bit about Anthony richardson yesterday,
and then you liken that to guys like Peyton Manning
and Andrew Luck, who were guys that were cerebral guys
that had the tools to be successful. Now, Peyton, through
a bunch of interceptions this first year, had to go
through some growing pains, but he had the skill set
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to be able to survive and play and do some
good things through that. Andrew Luck the same way. But
I think there's a lot of young quarterbacks that are
taught differently in college football that it becomes more about
plug and play guys, athletic guys. Hey use your athleticism
more than learning the position. And you know, when you
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get to the NFL, it's hard to live in that world.
Even if you're a great athlete, it's hard to live
in the athletic world and you've got to do those
other things. And if you don't have that skill set,
this game can swallow you up very quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, maybe you can speak to this because I talk
about this a lot, that the game is so fast
in the NFL, you have to throw guys open. In college,
guys are open. I mean, if you play at a
big time program, you're going to have multiple receivers to
throw to. But explain to us the audience what it's
like when there is a small window when you have
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to have anticipation, where when when it's not there, you'd
have to eat it, like you know, you can't scramble around.
And these are things that these these college quarterbacks come in. Hey,
I can extend to play. I'm the next Patrick Mahomes.
No you're not. But that ability to fit a ball
in a tight window. Explain that.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a great point. You know. I was
interviewing Bryce Young last week and asked him what the
biggest challenge was in the NFL, and he said, the
biggest challenge is how consistently good the players are on
every play. Whereas in Alabama, you know what you might
call Alabama open versus NFL open is that you know
you're going to have all this space between a receiver
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and a defender, where if you're a little bit late
with the football or if the football is not perfect,
there's that ability to adjust and still have a completion.
In the NFL, if you're a little bit late, if
you're a little bit behind, that's an incompletion, that could
be an interception, that could be the difference between winning
and losing a football game. So you're so righty, and
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some of it is the key of reading body language. Right,
So a guy's not even open yet, But if I
can read the body language of the defender, knowing, oh,
his hips are turned this way, I can let that
ball go because he can't make up for that. If
I've got to wait and see my guy open. Now
that guy has the ability to correct and make up
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for that ground that he didn't have before. So the
ability to anticipate, see the big picture, know exactly what
I'm looking at, and then the other part Dan that
I think is lost on a lot of these young
guys is the physical technique to be ready to throw
and able to throw quickly. A lot of these guys
are back there bouncing or their feet aren't set, and
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all of a sudden the place has throw it and
now they've got to drop, get set and throw it
and it's like sorry, too late. So being able to
clean up your technique is such a big part of
this as well, so when you see it, the ball
can actually come out right away. And again you're playing
ahead of the game or you're playing the game faster,
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which allows you the benefit of being more successful in
a lot of situations.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Okay, but how do you explain Jade and Daniels? How
do you explain CJ. Stround? I mean, even Drake may
has played pretty well.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Agreed. I think the first thing I'll say, I'll go
right back the technique. You look at CJ. Stroud, you
look at Jade and Daniels. Those guys have strong technique,
so they're ready to play quarterback, They're ready to throw
the football.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But what are they doing that Caleb Williams is not
doing well?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I mean, again, this would be a long conversation Dan,
just in terms of the ability to beat. So they're
loaded into their legs, their set, their balance, and their
base is always there. So they're playing heavy into the
ground as oposed to playing high, playing on their toes,
playing in a position where they have to drop and move.
The more movement we make between set or time that
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we make the decision and set to throw, the more
chance we have to miss. The less movement we have,
the more efficient we're going to be. So those are
two guys that have come into the league very technically sound,
so they don't have a lot of that wasted movement.
They're always ready to play and throw, which gives them
the advantage. And then there's the other side that some
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of these guys have learned how to play the game
the right way earlier on. And so I've always made
this contention it's really hard to learn how to play quarterback.
And I say that simply more in the pocket quarterback, reading, timing, anticipation,
what our eyes need to be on a particular concept.
It's way harder to learn that when you're playing against
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the best players in the world and you're playing on
a Sunday afternoon. Then learning it when you're young and
being able to hone those skills. And so some of
these guys have been taught that have played in systems
that have required that more than other guys, and we're
expecting those other guys to be able to play at
the same level as quickly, and it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Kurt Warner, the Hall of Famer joining us. He was
on the call with Rich Eisen with the NFL Network
broadcast of the Giants and the Panthers game this past
Sunday in Munich. What's wrong with Daniel Jones?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well, I mean, you know, I really actually think Daniel Jones,
in terms of decision making, in terms of where he's
gone with the football, has played pretty decent this year.
But I think there are a number of things, and
I think it starts with the processing part of it
is he doesn't seem to quite process things fast enough
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so his eyes are in the right spot, but he's
just late in making those decisions. And it goes back
to what we were talking about. If you're a little bit late,
you're late in the NFL. You can't make up for
some of those things the other times is and it's
hard to know when you just watch film. There's other
times when it seems as if he's looking at it
and he doesn't throw it, like somebody's open in the
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direction that he's looking at and he's not throwing it.
And so you always have to ask yourself why is that.
Is he simply looking in the right direction but doesn't
really know what he's seeing or is it just late
in him seeing and and so by the time he finally,
you know, calculates and makes that decision, he feels like
he's too late to throw the football. But something in
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that regard has to speed up, because I don't think
when I watch him, I don't look at him and go, man,
he doesn't know where he's going, or his eyes are
in the wrong spot. It's just he is not pulling
the trigger and hitting those opportunities that are in front
of him. And then, as we saw in that game,
if you watch the game, and then there's a number
of throws that he just flat out and misses. And
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you've got to be able to make those layup throws
consistently in the NFL to be that top notch guy.
So when you talk about processing seems to be a
little delayed and he's missing too many layups. It's just
not a conducive formula to win at this level, especially
when you're playing with a team that doesn't have any
real dominant areas around you. Quarterback is going to be
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asked to do more and have to make more consistent
plays in that regard.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
What's the first thing to go on a quarterback?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
The first thing to go? I mean, you know, I
think it's the physical part of things, you know that,
I think the mental healing.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I asked this about Aaron Rodgers, like I'm watching the
end of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, I think we are for sure.
And I think with Aaron and I think it's just
the comfort of playing the position because I watched the
ball come out of his hands, and I say he
can still throw it well enough and as well as
anybody in terms of throwing it, you know, But I
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think it's the comfort of, you know, him being out
a year, him being a little bit older, the expectations
where he just doesn't look comfortable playing the position anymore.
He's moving too fast. His mind seems to be moving
fast because his feet are moving fast. He's he's out
of that comfort zone. Whereas when you watched him, you know,
in so many years, it was like he was poised.
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He was never panicking, He never looked like he was
playing too fast. And I think that's what happens when
we when we feel like we're losing something. I don't
know what that is, whether it's control, whether it's the
physical part of things is that it's easy to start going,
oh my gosh, I can't do everything that I did before,
and the game starts moving faster for us than it
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did early in our career. And I think that's how
you you know, that's what you have to avoid. And
for me, it was the mental side of it. I
felt like mentally I was sharper than i'd ever been,
so I could see and process and think fast. So
it didn't cause me to panic because maybe some of
the other things that dwindle a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Great to catch up with you again, Thank you, Kurt,
you as always. That's like Kurt Warner, Hall of Famer
and MVP of Super Bowl, two time NFL MVP during
the regular season. Yeah, you know, it's when you talk
to quarterbacks and he brings up something that I find
are found really interesting. You've got to be ready with
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your legs to throw like you got to be in
that position instead of I'm getting ready to get in
that position and then throwing the football. If your legs
are ready, now you just get your arm ready and
then you have to have that sense of anticipation. And
Kurt loved it when you blitzed him because he knew
somebody was open. The Rams lived off that, Oh you
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want to blitz me, Oh good, fine. But I also
think playing in the Arena League helped him too, because
the speed you you know, it's scoring, it's precise windows.
Now playing in doors, smaller field, you know, those are
the things that you can You can get into a
bad habit. You can be great, but get into a
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bad habit. And Kati Williams was great in college, but
you can also have habits that don't translate into the NFL.
And I think that's what he is finding out right now.
I don't know. Let's say the Colts benched Peyton Manning.
I mean he did throw what twenty seven twenty eight interceptions.
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I don't think that that would have helped Peyton Manning.
Peyton Manning I think needed to be embarrassed to get
humbled to it. And it's not that he didn't understand
the position because his dad was an NFL quarterback. But
I think just getting in that moment of like, I'll
never ever repeat this again, this will never happen. You
have to have that sense of pride. I got humbled,
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Elway got humbled, Troy Aikman got humbled. They all get humbled.
It's what do you do after that? This is what
I want to see from Caleb Williams. You got your
ass handed to you. You got teammates who want you benched.
Now what do you do? This is where you're going
to find out who you have as a quarterback. Well,
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Staples covers college football for on three Sports. He was
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at the Georgia Ole Miss game this past weekend. He's
got duties at LSU versus Florida this weekend. First reaction
to the college football rankings was what Andy.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I was surprised they had Georgia as far down as
they did. I actually thought they probably should do that,
but was surprised they did do that. Now I'll obviously
can work itself out because they've got to see this weekend.
If they beat Tennessee, they'll be right back up there.
But I thought that was a pretty clear headed view
of what you saw in the George Ole Miss game,
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and they probably did what they should have. Now, there's
some other things I wasn't particularly fond of, Like I
don't really understand why Miami and SMU are five spots
apart when they're basically the same resume, and that's a
helmet logo thing, which as someone who feels like that
SMU Pony logo is the best helmet logo, I don't
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feel like that helmet logo should be degraded like that
by just saying, oh, Miami's a bigger brand, let's put there.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
They're the same. They should be one spot apart.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, I know, I and I cautioned my listeners. I said, look,
you're gonna go apoplectic on this. You're going to see
BYU and they're you know, in the top four seeds.
They're going to have a first round by I mean,
and they're going to host like this is going to
bother people SMU or Miami is going to have a
first round by Is this good?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
I don't know if it's good for the playoffs because
I also think if you have a mis seeded team
at number four, it makes that five seed really valuable
because that's who you play in the second You will
get the twelve seed, which may be a mis seeded
team that could be the fifth highest ranked conference champ,
which could be ranked, you know, twenty four for all
we know. I don't think it will be this year,
but you could get the easiest first round game and
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possibly the easiest second round game. And I don't think
that's how they wanted it to actually turn out. You
want the number one seed to have the easiest path
because you think they earned it. So I agree with you, Dan,
I think there's a big awareness gap.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Folks who are just coming into it now that are
going to be still surprised because I get it when
I I've been putting this bracketology thing out every week
where I have a what I think the bracket will
look like at the end of the season, and I
still get how can you have BYU there? I'm like, Okay,
what Big twelve team would you like in their place?
And the person's like, what do you mean? I was like, well,
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it's going to have to be one of those.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's what people don't realize is you got the automatic
berths here and just because you're ranked in the top
twelve doesn't mean you're in the twelve team playoff. This
is year one. What kind of tweaks do you think
we'll see with this?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
I don't think we'll see any tweaks in year two,
but I think there's a chance of tweaks for year
three because that's when the original TV contract runs out.
So the original TV contract goes through next year, they
still can make some changes, and the talk is that
they're going to go to fourteen teams for twenty twenty six,
and the reason would be it's more to keep those
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conference championship games valuable. The SEC in the Big ten
want people to watch their conference championship games. They want
them to matter. Well, if those are the only two buys,
and they wouldn't write it that way, but realistically, the
SEC champ in the Big ten champ would be your
number one and number two if they were the only
people that could get buys. It would add stakes to
those games, like your ACC championship game, your Big twelve
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championship game. They're probably gonna have pretty big stakes this year,
like it's probably winning in and the losers out, So
that's gonna make those games really valuable television properties. But
right now, this year, the two they get into the
Big Ten, and probably the two they get into the SEC,
they're getting into the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
So who cares.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, Georgia Tennessee is like a playoff game.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
It feels like it.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
And it's strange because you think if Tennessee loses their
ten and two they beat Alabama, there's still a chance
they get in. It's not necessarily an elimination game for them,
but it does feel like George's out if they lose,
just like it felt like last week George Old Miss.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
If Ole Miss were to lose, they'd be out.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
If Army Beach Notre Dame next week, not Dot Dot, it.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Will be wild because then you come down to the
American Athletic Conference Championship, which is we'll see who wins
the two lane Navy game this week, because you could
have a really wild scenario where you have an Army
Navy game on Army's campus before the actual Army Navy
game in DC the following week. So it could be crazy.
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But yes, if Army were to beat Notre Dame and
stay undefeated, one, Army's gonna pop up in the rankings. Two,
you have a really interesting scenario where remember it's the
five highest rank conference champs get into the playoff, not
the power for champs and somebody else. It's just the
five highest ranks. So let's say the Big twelve eats itself.
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Let's say the ACC teams lose a few more games,
like you can have a situation where one of those
conferences is sweating and getting a team into the bracket.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Oh if I said to the committee, you can have
Boise State or Army, which school is a better story
for the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Well, I think Army would be undefeated in that scenario.
I don't think there's a scenario where there's a one
lost Army that's up for it because that loss is
probably a Notre Dame. You need Army to beat Notre Dame, which, look,
if you watch the Notre Dame Navy game, it's gonna
be very hard. Notre Dame size up front is what
allowed them to crush Navy, and in the Service academies,
you just don't have that size human because they used
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to have weight limits. I'm not I don't think they
still have the same thing, but they don't typically have
a bunch of three hundred pound guys, and that's that's
the difficulty. But if Army could beat Notre Dame, an
Army goes undefeated, I mean, that's that's gotta be the
best store, you know. But I actually think a twelve
and one Boise State where the one loss is a
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very narrow one, you know, tight game at Oregon, which
is probably gonna be your number one seed. That's what
I'm saying about. If you're the big twelve the ACC,
you don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Can Indiana lose to Ohio State and still make the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yes, I think at eleven to one, Indiana still gets
in as long as they don't lose sixty five to nothing.
But I do think they're gonna get parse pretty close
with some of this glut of potential ten and two
sec teams because they're gonna have the SEC teams are
gonna have better wins in that scenario. But the thing
about Indiana is the way they've beaten people all season,
even though their strength of schedule is not great, it's
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been very impressive. I think the committee is gonna take
that into account, and as long as they're pretty competitive
against Ohiasian, I actually think that's gonna be a very
competitive game.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
I think they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
How does Colorado get in?
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Colorado just keeps winning. If they keep winning, they're gonna
get in. Unless I had that disaster potential for the
Big Twelve with the Boise State and Army, but I
don't think that's gonna happen. So, like, if you're Colorado,
you are playing better than anybody in the Big Twelve
right now. You've just got to win your next three
games and then win the Big Twelve championship game. And
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I don't think that's a far fetched possibility at all.
They're gonna be favored in their next three regular season games.
Like I said, they are playing better than anybody in
the Big Twelve at the moment, and then it's probably
them in by you one shot deal in Jerry World,
hopefully the sun won't shine anybody's eyes and the winner goes.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Can you be the best player in college football and
not win the Heisman if you're Travis Oh.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
It's happened, so Dan. My first year as a Heisman voter.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Was two thousand and nine. My number one was in
Dominican Sue. There was nobody better in college football than
in Dominican Sue. That year, mark Ingram won the Heisman.
Mark Ingram was a great player. He probably wasn't even
the best player on Alabama that year. Rolando McClane probably was.
So yes, that can definitely happen. You're gonna ask you're
asking a Travis Hunter question, I actually think, and this
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is a pleasant surprise to me because at the beginning
of the season, I said, if Travis Hunter does what
he did last season, but at a higher level, and
it's playing every play on both sides of the ball,
we absolutely seriously have to consider him for the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
I would say he's the front runner now.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
And I think most voters are looking at this and saying,
this is very special. This is something we most of
us have not seen this in our lifetimes. Because the
two platoon system came in in nineteen sixty five. But
I don't even think the older folks saw this. There
wasn't this somebody this dominant on both sides of the ball,
even in the fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Well, remember when they would say to Charles Woodson, hey,
you got to play a little offense here or little
like like we were trying to make this story more compelling.
And you know, Charles Woodson's one of the greatest college
players of all time. But it felt like we were,
you know, universities were saying, hey, if you want to
win the Heisman, you know, how about you return some kicks,
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like trying to get more attention to somebody.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Right, the closest we've seen to what Travis Hunter's doing
is Chris Gamble when Ohio State won the national title
in two thousand and two, and he was really good
on both sides of the ball, but that roster was
so loaded with NFL talent he didn't have to play
the amount of plays that Travis Hunter does. Like, we
just haven't seen it, and we're never going to see
this again. So cherish these moments here these next few weeks,
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because you're never going to see somebody do this again.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
How did Michigan go from national champs to average?
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Jim Harbaugh delayed his decision.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Well, I mean his decision was on the NFL's timeline,
which is not on the transfer portals timeline. So the
time you would have spent figuring out who your quarterback
was going to be getting a quarterback out of the
transfer portal if you didn't like what you had on
your roster, which they didn't, all of that was wasted
because they were waiting on Jim Harborough to decide if
he was going to stay or leave, and so that
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was the issue. So I don't bang on Sharon more
for the roster this year because he had really no
chance to address it.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
What he does in this offseason will tell us a
lot more.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, they're going to pony up, I mean LSU ponied
up for Jayden Daniels. They're going to pony up for
this Underwood kid, and they are.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
And they're also probably going to pony up for somebody
out of the portal. So Dave Portnoy, the Barstool Sports founder,
he's a proud Michigan grad and he's like, look, I'll
do seven figures to get somebody out there. So so
Bryce Utter was the number one quarterback recruiting class at
twenty twenty five. The plan I think for Michigan is
go get a big rental, one year old guy quarterback.
(27:11):
That's your starter, and then Bryce, if you can take
it from LSU, which they're fighting tooth and nail for that,
you'd be the developed guy.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I say, you get Joe Flacco, you put him in
for a year and then.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
And you let Anthony richardson development.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah that'll work. Yes, great to talk to you, so always,
thank you, Andy Banks. Dan love talking to Andy. Andy
Staples covers college football for on three Sports. Time to
play in or out? Paulie, would you explain the rules?
How do you play in or out?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
It's complex, Dan, so stay with me. Okay, I will
say something. Then you say whether you're in or out
on this concept?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, like a team. Hold on, let me see any questions. Oh,
Seatan has a question.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
Now, yesterday we play out out or back in? Is
this this is different?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Completely different?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
It's like how the toilet goes the other way in Australia.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Australia, just like that.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Yeah, okay, So the only variations are is how you deliver.
I'm in or I'm out here first one Caleb William's
future in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Todd in Seaton, I'm in, Marvin, In I'm in. It's certainly.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
More NFL games in Europe and South America going.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Forward, Todd, I know there will be, but I'm out
on that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Sure, I'm in, Marvin. What bothers you about playing games
in other countries?
Speaker 10 (28:49):
And it's just very greedy and forced, and I rather
have more games.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Wait, you just called the NFL greedy.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (28:56):
I rather have as many games as possible here, especially
if people want to go see their team and they
can't afford it as it is here.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
They surely can't afford flying to the countries to go too.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
But if the games are overseas, doesn't that save the
local fans money because they can't go to them.
Speaker 11 (29:10):
I guess I'd like to see them have more opportunities
to go to games with whatever budget they have, and
more games in our country.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
As long as they don't export the Super Bowl and
you get everybody gets eight home games. I'm okay, I'm in,
I'm fine, all.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Right, in or out. The all New Russell Wilson Bandwagon
we're three games in. Okay, it's a there. There's a
lot of room on it.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Put it that way.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Tire Rack supplied the tires for the bandwagon for Russell Wilson. Yeah,
just let you know. And they have so no speakers
on there as well, and they serve Miller Lite as well,
like a NASCAR drive.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So, Todd, are you in or.
Speaker 10 (29:52):
I am biased because I still have Denver wounds to lick.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
So I'm gonna go out out Seaton. I'm I like
this story. Let's go rus Marvin.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
If there's meat off the trigger, I mean.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Well, once we get to where we need to go,
that's when the trigger's set up. I'm in on Russell Wilson.
You here the third we're early.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
How about this?
Speaker 10 (30:12):
Out of nowhere?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Kyler Murray the Cardinals is an MVP candidate.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right now, fifth best odds according to DraftKings. Todd out
on that, Seaton.
Speaker 12 (30:24):
Out out, WHOA, I'm sorry, this is the wrong game.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I guess I'm just a little just out a little
while season.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Sorry, Marvin out. I'm in all right, I'm in it
with my good friend Kyler Murray. So, Kyler, are you
going to play football or are you going to play baseball?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
But heady.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Two more, Dan, thanks for the collaboration on that little
Beavis and butt.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Head in or out the NBA holding its in season
tournament in November.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Todd out, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
I don't like these contrived trophy awards. How do we
get people more interested before Christmas? Let's make this some tournament.
I just I don't like the courts, and I don't
like the whole gimmick.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
I don't. Damn year old is answering the question all right,
like I'm I supposed to.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
See in a round? I'm in, all right, Marvin, I'm in. Yeah,
I'm in. I don't care, And.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
So what it's not bothersome? Yeah, speak for yourself.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Todd is bothered by it.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yes, my apologies.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Those courts are ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
One more, I'm okay with I swear, I'm okay with
the courts watching Golden State. Man, this bothers you. You
came in today, of all the things to talk about.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Just hideous.
Speaker 10 (31:46):
It looks like someone like spray painted something. I don't
know what. I guess. The younger kids like, it's not
for you, louder the better or whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Todd you wear Zubaz pants.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
I do, but that's usually the privacy amount home all
that I've worn him.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, no, no, you've worn him here.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
I have him to work, all right?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
One more in or okay, this is for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
We will want to get it now. In or out
on Mike Tyson kicking Jake Paul's.
Speaker 10 (32:05):
Ass, Todd, I'm very in on that.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Actually, Seaton in in Marvin all the way in. Yeah,
in in In.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I think America called and staid they're in.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
How many times do you think that people rooted for
Mike Tyson in a fight? Now, you might have for
the spectacle, but like he's an underdog.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Yeah, I mean I think back in the day he
rooted for him, like every fight, did you I think so?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Maybe I was.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
I was on a certain ease, but I was like,
I wanted to see him as fast as possible.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I wanted to see him whin.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
M Mike's like the dad at the skate park yelling
at the kids, and everyone's rooting for the dad, and
said the kids at the skate park.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Hmm, all right, let me take a break. Class call
for phone calls, what we learn? What's in store tomorrow?
I believe Shaq is going to join us tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern,
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Wapp yep todd says, it's official. Shaquille O'Neill, Damn Patrick,
shut the hell up, We'll join us on the program tomorrow.
Good buddy, Ross Tucker. Get us ready for the Thursday
night game. Commander's Eagle. Nice, that's spicy. A couple of
phone calls in here. Let me see Chase in Oregon. Hi, Chase,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (33:20):
Good Marrion dany a soft one seventy And I've got
three of your top callers here with me, and we
wanted to give you a best of the weekend and
I wanted to see if you could guess who they are.
Speaker 14 (33:33):
Okay, good morning, mister Patrick.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Gus in LA, thanks for taking my call. Brother James
in Virginia.
Speaker 14 (33:47):
Let's go fritzea Buddha.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
And San Francisco.
Speaker 14 (33:52):
So, Dan, I was watching the Chiefs and Broncos game
at my restaurant over here in the Bay Area, And Dan,
did you see poor number fifty seven for the Broncos
get absolutely manhandled and Pancakes Man just flat on his back.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I mean, Dan, that was just not good.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Thank you Chase Curtis in Illinois, Hi, Curtis.
Speaker 15 (34:16):
Mort Gp just had a couple suggestions, assuming you're flying
into Iowa for your grand road trip, had some ideas
and when Kurt Warner was on it kind of gave
me another one of touring all the colleges in Iowa.
You or you and I have Kurt Warner come with.
Maybe go to Ames to Iowa State, get your boy
Rock Purty, pick a tight end that you can take
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to Iowa with you. But as somebody that lives in
Illinois that drives over the Mississippi to Debuque every day
for the work for work, I want to throw Dubuke
in the in the ring because I know you love
you some Dubuque.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Well, thank you, Curtis. We're getting a lot of suggestions.
I just talked to Seatan this morning about trying to
do a road trip, and I promise that we're serious
about trying to do a road trip where we do
five days in Iowa in five different cities as we
visit our radio affiliates, there that we're going to try
to do that maybe in the springtime.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Yes, Marvin, are we going to somebody's house for dinner?
Like a home cooked meal?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I think it would be fun if we were able
to do something like that where we had a contest
in each city and then we got to go and
we went to your place for dinner. What do you think?
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Yeah, you went, all five of us?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
You sure?
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh, I go? You go?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Good Midwest home cooked meals?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yes? Yes, ay?
Speaker 12 (35:34):
How are you having us?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (35:43):
Howld your dog?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I am taller in person. Yeah. No, that is the
voice I use on the radio. Yes, No, this is fine.
It's fine. No, it's fine. No, everything tastes great. No, Sally, Sally,
stop it tastes great. Okay, I'll have another burger. But
we are thinking about going to Iowa. I'm serious. I
(36:09):
just I don't know why it hit me, but Seaton
has been saying we should do a road trip, and
I go, I don't want to do a road trip.
And then he's like, what if we go to Iowa?
It's awesome, man, is the best? Yeah, all right, those
there my people go to Iowa. I think the new
basketball coach the women's coach Iowa reached out said, hey,
come on.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
In, coach Shenson.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, maybe I'll get in layup lines. I don't know.
I don't know right now. We're work shopping it. I'm
looking at next spring that maybe we go to Iowa.
Who's with me?
Speaker 10 (36:45):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Good? Okay? I just want to make sure, all right, Paulie,
this day in sports history.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I got one fun one.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
This is fun.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
We're gonna play a little game on this date. In
nineteen ninety three, the Dallas Mavericks began a twenty game
streak of losses nineteen ninety three maps. Who can name
three Dallas Mavericks from the nineteen ninety three season. Derek
Carper Derek Harper's correct, and then good job, thank you
two a little more obvious. And then a bunch of randos.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Our boy Jim Jackson, Jim Jackson's crack. Our other boy,
I don't think he's our boy.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Jamal Jamal Bashburn is correct? Oh, all right, one more anyone.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Jay Kidd wasn't on there. I got Roy Tarpley.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
No, he was gone. You did one of his games
in college at Southern Illinois, but he didn't go to
Southern Illinois Big.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Man by Joan by Jones is correct, had those ears.
It still does he does still have those just checked.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Fat leaver Sean Rooks, Doug Smith out of Missouri.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
That's about it, okay to you. Let me see on
this date, eighteen seventy five, the first college football game
played using uniforms the naked before. I don't know what
they had on before that. Harvard Yale. Let's see will
he stargel? Keith Hernandez shared the National League MVP Award
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nineteen seventy nine. The first NBA player to score twenty
thousand career points nineteen sixty four, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Bob Pettit, whoa blue blue?
Speaker 10 (38:28):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Wow, that is all right. I did not know that one.
Well done, well done, So shock on the program tomorrow.
Ross Tucker will join us Seaton. Final results of the
poll question. Yeah, we got a few of them up there.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
I get easily have a conversation between Dylan and Kyler Murray.
Dentist talking to you while they work on your mouth
is relaxing or annoying? Right now, we're up to eighty
seven percent find it annoying?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Fun?
Speaker 9 (39:00):
Who you got this weekend bills? Or Chiefs fifty seven
percent have the bills. Excuse me, Yeah, a lot of
people see the Chiefs winning street coming to an end.
Speaker 12 (39:10):
Oh okay, yeah, how about that?
Speaker 8 (39:12):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (39:12):
Also, would you give the twelfth spot to college football
playoff spot to Boise State or Army right now?
Speaker 12 (39:20):
Army has sixty three percent of that Poe.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Army would be a better story. Boise State might be
a better team.
Speaker 12 (39:27):
That's why don't we have them play each other to
see who gets okay?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Playing game?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Playing game, Todd, what did you learn today?
Speaker 11 (39:34):
Your dentist has beefy fingers. It's like he's putting hot
dogs in your mouth.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
How see O'Connor dentist?
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Just stop Marvin Kurt Warner say, Daniel Jones has been decent.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Possible seventy sixteen NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Marvin are ton?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Is it?
Speaker 10 (39:50):
Ton? It's ton?
Speaker 11 (39:51):
Boise State would bump Georgia from the College Football Playoff
if it began today.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Dan and The Dan Edge Stan Patrick Show.
More on the college football rankings playoff format coming up.
Kurt Warner will join us as well. The Bears situation.
Now word got out that some of the players wanted
Caleb Williams benched college football. The top four Oregon, Ohio State,
Texas and Penn State. You have Indiana at five. Georgia
(00:29):
is at twelve, but if the playoffs started today, Georgia
would not be in the playoffs. NBA Cup underway. Steph
Curry out dueled Clay Thompson. He went for thirty seven
last night as Clay came back to Golden State. Cooper
Flag was great for thirty nine and a half minutes.
He just wasn't good at all for the final thirty seconds.
(00:52):
As Duke loses to Kentucky. Joe Ellenbiid played last night,
didn't play well. Sixers lose as the NBA Cup is underway.
Eight seven seven three DP show email address, DP at
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It'll be Joe Burrow and the Bengals in Los Angeles
(01:12):
against Justin Herbert and the Chargers Sunday seven Eastern on
NBC and Peacock. A couple of phone calls in here
as we wait for Kurt Warner. Marcus in Mississippi. Hey Marcus,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. Second time, long time. Listen, Dan,
I'm so glad that Sceedon brought this topic up. I
wanted to weigh in on the poll question. Listen. The
fact that dentist still talk to you and ask you
questions in twenty twenty four is it's just preposterous. So
(01:48):
five years ago, I just made a judgment call and
I said, I'm wherever I go into the dentist, I'm
just going we can do the banter. Hey, how's your family?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Good? Good?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But when I sit down and let's go Tom, I
act like I'm asleep.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, thank you, Marcus. I don't mind the dentist talking,
but have rhetorical questions then I don't have to answer
and you can just talk. If that, you know, is
supposed to make us more comfortable, you know, ease the
tension there being in the dentist's chair, than fine, but
certainly bothers seat.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yes, Paul, you can't sleep or even pretend to sleep,
because often they're saying turn your head a little bit,
open up a little more, move your tongue to the left.
You know they're giving you, you know, like waving in.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
At the airport.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
As Kurt Warner said, to join us there, the Hall
of Famer, MVP of Super Bowl, two time NFL MVP,
and you can hear him on Westwood One as their
analyst and NFL network analyst as well. Good to talk
to you again. Can you explain to me how benching
Caleb Williams in Chicago would be better official for both
the Bears and Caleb Williams Dan.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Good to be with you. It's been a while just
to start there. Yeah, I think we see so often
in this league, these young guys come in slated to
be the starter. We throw them in and they don't
have the tools, they don't have the information skill set
that they need to succeed at the NFL level. And
so a lot of these guys are simply what I
(03:26):
call surviving. It's like, here, take the ball and run
out there and try to do whatever you can to
be successful without us giving you the tools that you
need to be able to do it. And so I
know it's always hard to go with the young guy
and then pull back from a young guy. It's why
I'm always a proponent of starting the old guy and
then you can work to the young guy when they're ready.
(03:47):
But yeah, I think it could be beneficial to let
Caleb step back and to let him kind of see
how it's done, get acclimated with what the speed is
and what the complexity is and what we're asking him
to do within these pro offenses, and then when he's reinserted,
he is in a position to fully succeed, which is
both beneficial for him and obviously beneficial for the organization
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as well.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
How long did you sit before you got your opportunity
with the ramp.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, I mean I sat for a full year, so
I was on the team even.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Before that, you were on practice squads and.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, I mean, you know, I was actually all over
the world, Dan, so I wasn't on a practice squad
before that. Just ninety eight was my first year. So
I was kind of the scout team quarterback in ninety
eight and then obviously took over ninety nine when Trent
got hurt. But you know, but again, this is twofold,
is that even though I sat on the bench for
four years in college and played in arena football and
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what have you, I had the skill set in terms
of understanding how to play the position the way it
was asked to play it. In the NFL, the understanding
of how to read defense is see things, process information.
So so yeah, sitting could be beneficial without a doubt.
But to me, it's so much about do you have
the skill set where playing you'll learn and grow through playing,
(05:05):
but you've got enough of a skill set to be successful.
And I was talking a little bit about Anthony richardson yesterday,
and then you liken that to guys like Peyton Manning
and Andrew Luck, who were guys that were cerebral guys
that had the tools to be successful. Now, Peyton, through
a bunch of interceptions this first year, had to go
through some growing pains, but he had the skill set
(05:26):
to be able to survive and play and do some
good things through that. Andrew Luck the same way. But
I think there's a lot of young quarterbacks that are
taught differently in college football that it becomes more about
plug and play guys, athletic guys. Hey use your athleticism
more than learning the position. And you know, when you
(05:47):
get to the NFL, it's hard to live in that world.
Even if you're a great athlete, it's hard to live
in the athletic world and you've got to do those
other things. And if you don't have that skill set,
this game can swallow you up very quickly.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, maybe you can speak to this because I talk
about this a lot, that the game is so fast
in the NFL, you have to throw guys open. In college,
guys are open. I mean, if you play at a
big time program, you're going to have multiple receivers to
throw to. But explain to us the audience what it's
like when there is a small window when you have
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to have anticipation, where when when it's not there, you'd
have to eat it, like you know, you can't scramble around.
And these are things that these these college quarterbacks come in. Hey,
I can extend to play. I'm the next Patrick Mahomes.
No you're not. But that ability to fit a ball
in a tight window. Explain that.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a great point. You know. I was
interviewing Bryce Young last week and asked him what the
biggest challenge was in the NFL, and he said, the
biggest challenge is how consistently good the players are on
every play. Whereas in Alabama, you know what you might
call Alabama open versus NFL open is that you know
you're going to have all this space between a receiver
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and a defender, where if you're a little bit late
with the football or if the football is not perfect,
there's that ability to adjust and still have a completion.
In the NFL, if you're a little bit late, if
you're a little bit behind, that's an incompletion, that could
be an interception, that could be the difference between winning
and losing a football game. So you're so righty, and
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some of it is the key of reading body language. Right,
So a guy's not even open yet, But if I
can read the body language of the defender, knowing, oh,
his hips are turned this way, I can let that
ball go because he can't make up for that. If
I've got to wait and see my guy open. Now
that guy has the ability to correct and make up
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for that ground that he didn't have before. So the
ability to anticipate, see the big picture, know exactly what
I'm looking at, and then the other part Dan that
I think is lost on a lot of these young
guys is the physical technique to be ready to throw
and able to throw quickly. A lot of these guys
are back there bouncing or their feet aren't set, and
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all of a sudden the place has throw it and
now they've got to drop, get set and throw it
and it's like sorry, too late. So being able to
clean up your technique is such a big part of
this as well, so when you see it, the ball
can actually come out right away. And again you're playing
ahead of the game or you're playing the game faster,
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which allows you the benefit of being more successful in
a lot of situations.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Okay, but how do you explain Jade and Daniels? How
do you explain CJ. Stround? I mean, even Drake may
has played pretty well.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Agreed. I think the first thing I'll say, I'll go
right back the technique. You look at CJ. Stroud, you
look at Jade and Daniels. Those guys have strong technique,
so they're ready to play quarterback, They're ready to throw
the football.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But what are they doing that Caleb Williams is not
doing well?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I mean, again, this would be a long conversation Dan,
just in terms of the ability to beat. So they're
loaded into their legs, their set, their balance, and their
base is always there. So they're playing heavy into the
ground as oposed to playing high, playing on their toes,
playing in a position where they have to drop and move.
The more movement we make between set or time that
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we make the decision and set to throw, the more
chance we have to miss. The less movement we have,
the more efficient we're going to be. So those are
two guys that have come into the league very technically sound,
so they don't have a lot of that wasted movement.
They're always ready to play and throw, which gives them
the advantage. And then there's the other side that some
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of these guys have learned how to play the game
the right way earlier on. And so I've always made
this contention it's really hard to learn how to play quarterback.
And I say that simply more in the pocket quarterback, reading, timing, anticipation,
what our eyes need to be on a particular concept.
It's way harder to learn that when you're playing against
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the best players in the world and you're playing on
a Sunday afternoon. Then learning it when you're young and
being able to hone those skills. And so some of
these guys have been taught that have played in systems
that have required that more than other guys, and we're
expecting those other guys to be able to play at
the same level as quickly, and it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Kurt Warner, the Hall of Famer joining us. He was
on the call with Rich Eisen with the NFL Network
broadcast of the Giants and the Panthers game this past
Sunday in Munich. What's wrong with Daniel Jones?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well, I mean, you know, I really actually think Daniel Jones,
in terms of decision making, in terms of where he's
gone with the football, has played pretty decent this year.
But I think there are a number of things, and
I think it starts with the processing part of it
is he doesn't seem to quite process things fast enough
(10:53):
so his eyes are in the right spot, but he's
just late in making those decisions. And it goes back
to what we were talking about. If you're a little bit late,
you're late in the NFL. You can't make up for
some of those things the other times is and it's
hard to know when you just watch film. There's other
times when it seems as if he's looking at it
and he doesn't throw it, like somebody's open in the
(11:16):
direction that he's looking at and he's not throwing it.
And so you always have to ask yourself why is that.
Is he simply looking in the right direction but doesn't
really know what he's seeing or is it just late
in him seeing and and so by the time he finally,
you know, calculates and makes that decision, he feels like
he's too late to throw the football. But something in
(11:37):
that regard has to speed up, because I don't think
when I watch him, I don't look at him and go, man,
he doesn't know where he's going, or his eyes are
in the wrong spot. It's just he is not pulling
the trigger and hitting those opportunities that are in front
of him. And then, as we saw in that game,
if you watch the game, and then there's a number
of throws that he just flat out and misses. And
(11:58):
you've got to be able to make those layup throws
consistently in the NFL to be that top notch guy.
So when you talk about processing seems to be a
little delayed and he's missing too many layups. It's just
not a conducive formula to win at this level, especially
when you're playing with a team that doesn't have any
real dominant areas around you. Quarterback is going to be
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asked to do more and have to make more consistent
plays in that regard.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
What's the first thing to go on a quarterback?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
The first thing to go? I mean, you know, I
think it's the physical part of things, you know that,
I think the mental healing.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I asked this about Aaron Rodgers, like I'm watching the
end of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, I think we are for sure.
And I think with Aaron and I think it's just
the comfort of playing the position because I watched the
ball come out of his hands, and I say he
can still throw it well enough and as well as
anybody in terms of throwing it, you know, But I
(13:03):
think it's the comfort of, you know, him being out
a year, him being a little bit older, the expectations
where he just doesn't look comfortable playing the position anymore.
He's moving too fast. His mind seems to be moving
fast because his feet are moving fast. He's he's out
of that comfort zone. Whereas when you watched him, you know,
in so many years, it was like he was poised.
(13:25):
He was never panicking, He never looked like he was
playing too fast. And I think that's what happens when
we when we feel like we're losing something. I don't
know what that is, whether it's control, whether it's the
physical part of things is that it's easy to start going,
oh my gosh, I can't do everything that I did before,
and the game starts moving faster for us than it
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did early in our career. And I think that's how
you you know, that's what you have to avoid. And
for me, it was the mental side of it. I
felt like mentally I was sharper than i'd ever been,
so I could see and process and think fast. So
it didn't cause me to panic because maybe some of
the other things that dwindle a little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Great to catch up with you again, Thank you, Kurt,
you as always. That's like Kurt Warner, Hall of Famer
and MVP of Super Bowl, two time NFL MVP during
the regular season. Yeah, you know, it's when you talk
to quarterbacks and he brings up something that I find
are found really interesting. You've got to be ready with
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your legs to throw like you got to be in
that position instead of I'm getting ready to get in
that position and then throwing the football. If your legs
are ready, now you just get your arm ready and
then you have to have that sense of anticipation. And
Kurt loved it when you blitzed him because he knew
somebody was open. The Rams lived off that, Oh you
(14:46):
want to blitz me, Oh good, fine. But I also
think playing in the Arena League helped him too, because
the speed you you know, it's scoring, it's precise windows.
Now playing in doors, smaller field, you know, those are
the things that you can You can get into a
bad habit. You can be great, but get into a
(15:10):
bad habit. And Kati Williams was great in college, but
you can also have habits that don't translate into the NFL.
And I think that's what he is finding out right now.
I don't know. Let's say the Colts benched Peyton Manning.
I mean he did throw what twenty seven twenty eight interceptions.
(15:31):
I don't think that that would have helped Peyton Manning.
Peyton Manning I think needed to be embarrassed to get
humbled to it. And it's not that he didn't understand
the position because his dad was an NFL quarterback. But
I think just getting in that moment of like, I'll
never ever repeat this again, this will never happen. You
have to have that sense of pride. I got humbled,
(15:55):
Elway got humbled, Troy Aikman got humbled. They all get humbled.
It's what do you do after that? This is what
I want to see from Caleb Williams. You got your
ass handed to you. You got teammates who want you benched.
Now what do you do? This is where you're going
to find out who you have as a quarterback. Well,
(16:15):
take a break back after this. Fox Sports Radio has
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Staples covers college football for on three Sports. He was
(16:37):
at the Georgia Ole Miss game this past weekend. He's
got duties at LSU versus Florida this weekend. First reaction
to the college football rankings was what Andy.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I was surprised they had Georgia as far down as
they did. I actually thought they probably should do that,
but was surprised they did do that. Now I'll obviously
can work itself out because they've got to see this weekend.
If they beat Tennessee, they'll be right back up there.
But I thought that was a pretty clear headed view
of what you saw in the George Ole Miss game,
(17:10):
and they probably did what they should have. Now, there's
some other things I wasn't particularly fond of, Like I
don't really understand why Miami and SMU are five spots
apart when they're basically the same resume, and that's a
helmet logo thing, which as someone who feels like that
SMU Pony logo is the best helmet logo, I don't
(17:31):
feel like that helmet logo should be degraded like that
by just saying, oh, Miami's a bigger brand, let's put there.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
They're the same. They should be one spot apart.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, I know, I and I cautioned my listeners. I said, look,
you're gonna go apoplectic on this. You're going to see
BYU and they're you know, in the top four seeds.
They're going to have a first round by I mean,
and they're going to host like this is going to
bother people SMU or Miami is going to have a
first round by Is this good?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
I don't know if it's good for the playoffs because
I also think if you have a mis seeded team
at number four, it makes that five seed really valuable
because that's who you play in the second You will
get the twelve seed, which may be a mis seeded
team that could be the fifth highest ranked conference champ,
which could be ranked, you know, twenty four for all
we know. I don't think it will be this year,
but you could get the easiest first round game and
(18:27):
possibly the easiest second round game. And I don't think
that's how they wanted it to actually turn out. You
want the number one seed to have the easiest path
because you think they earned it. So I agree with you, Dan,
I think there's a big awareness gap.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Folks who are just coming into it now that are
going to be still surprised because I get it when
I I've been putting this bracketology thing out every week
where I have a what I think the bracket will
look like at the end of the season, and I
still get how can you have BYU there? I'm like, Okay,
what Big twelve team would you like in their place?
And the person's like, what do you mean? I was like, well,
(19:03):
it's going to have to be one of those.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's what people don't realize is you got the automatic
berths here and just because you're ranked in the top
twelve doesn't mean you're in the twelve team playoff. This
is year one. What kind of tweaks do you think
we'll see with this?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
I don't think we'll see any tweaks in year two,
but I think there's a chance of tweaks for year
three because that's when the original TV contract runs out.
So the original TV contract goes through next year, they
still can make some changes, and the talk is that
they're going to go to fourteen teams for twenty twenty six,
and the reason would be it's more to keep those
(19:41):
conference championship games valuable. The SEC in the Big ten
want people to watch their conference championship games. They want
them to matter. Well, if those are the only two buys,
and they wouldn't write it that way, but realistically, the
SEC champ in the Big ten champ would be your
number one and number two if they were the only
people that could get buys. It would add stakes to
those games, like your ACC championship game, your Big twelve
(20:04):
championship game. They're probably gonna have pretty big stakes this year,
like it's probably winning in and the losers out, So
that's gonna make those games really valuable television properties. But
right now, this year, the two they get into the
Big Ten, and probably the two they get into the SEC,
they're getting into the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
So who cares.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, Georgia Tennessee is like a playoff game.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
It feels like it.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
And it's strange because you think if Tennessee loses their
ten and two they beat Alabama, there's still a chance
they get in. It's not necessarily an elimination game for them,
but it does feel like George's out if they lose,
just like it felt like last week George Old Miss.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
If Ole Miss were to lose, they'd be out.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
If Army Beach Notre Dame next week, not Dot Dot, it.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Will be wild because then you come down to the
American Athletic Conference Championship, which is we'll see who wins
the two lane Navy game this week, because you could
have a really wild scenario where you have an Army
Navy game on Army's campus before the actual Army Navy
game in DC the following week. So it could be crazy.
(21:11):
But yes, if Army were to beat Notre Dame and
stay undefeated, one, Army's gonna pop up in the rankings. Two,
you have a really interesting scenario where remember it's the
five highest rank conference champs get into the playoff, not
the power for champs and somebody else. It's just the
five highest ranks. So let's say the Big twelve eats itself.
(21:34):
Let's say the ACC teams lose a few more games,
like you can have a situation where one of those
conferences is sweating and getting a team into the bracket.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Oh if I said to the committee, you can have
Boise State or Army, which school is a better story
for the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Well, I think Army would be undefeated in that scenario.
I don't think there's a scenario where there's a one
lost Army that's up for it because that loss is
probably a Notre Dame. You need Army to beat Notre Dame, which, look,
if you watch the Notre Dame Navy game, it's gonna
be very hard. Notre Dame size up front is what
allowed them to crush Navy, and in the Service academies,
you just don't have that size human because they used
(22:18):
to have weight limits. I'm not I don't think they
still have the same thing, but they don't typically have
a bunch of three hundred pound guys, and that's that's
the difficulty. But if Army could beat Notre Dame, an
Army goes undefeated, I mean, that's that's gotta be the
best store, you know. But I actually think a twelve
and one Boise State where the one loss is a
(22:40):
very narrow one, you know, tight game at Oregon, which
is probably gonna be your number one seed. That's what
I'm saying about. If you're the big twelve the ACC,
you don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Can Indiana lose to Ohio State and still make the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yes, I think at eleven to one, Indiana still gets
in as long as they don't lose sixty five to nothing.
But I do think they're gonna get parse pretty close
with some of this glut of potential ten and two
sec teams because they're gonna have the SEC teams are
gonna have better wins in that scenario. But the thing
about Indiana is the way they've beaten people all season,
even though their strength of schedule is not great, it's
(23:17):
been very impressive. I think the committee is gonna take
that into account, and as long as they're pretty competitive
against Ohiasian, I actually think that's gonna be a very
competitive game.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
I think they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
How does Colorado get in?
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Colorado just keeps winning. If they keep winning, they're gonna
get in. Unless I had that disaster potential for the
Big Twelve with the Boise State and Army, but I
don't think that's gonna happen. So, like, if you're Colorado,
you are playing better than anybody in the Big Twelve
right now. You've just got to win your next three
games and then win the Big Twelve championship game. And
(23:50):
I don't think that's a far fetched possibility at all.
They're gonna be favored in their next three regular season games.
Like I said, they are playing better than anybody in
the Big Twelve at the moment, and then it's probably
them in by you one shot deal in Jerry World,
hopefully the sun won't shine anybody's eyes and the winner goes.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Can you be the best player in college football and
not win the Heisman if you're Travis Oh.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
It's happened, so Dan. My first year as a Heisman voter.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Was two thousand and nine. My number one was in
Dominican Sue. There was nobody better in college football than
in Dominican Sue. That year, mark Ingram won the Heisman.
Mark Ingram was a great player. He probably wasn't even
the best player on Alabama that year. Rolando McClane probably was.
So yes, that can definitely happen. You're gonna ask you're
asking a Travis Hunter question, I actually think, and this
(24:37):
is a pleasant surprise to me because at the beginning
of the season, I said, if Travis Hunter does what
he did last season, but at a higher level, and
it's playing every play on both sides of the ball,
we absolutely seriously have to consider him for the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
I would say he's the front runner now.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
And I think most voters are looking at this and saying,
this is very special. This is something we most of
us have not seen this in our lifetimes. Because the
two platoon system came in in nineteen sixty five. But
I don't even think the older folks saw this. There
wasn't this somebody this dominant on both sides of the ball,
even in the fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Well, remember when they would say to Charles Woodson, hey,
you got to play a little offense here or little
like like we were trying to make this story more compelling.
And you know, Charles Woodson's one of the greatest college
players of all time. But it felt like we were,
you know, universities were saying, hey, if you want to
win the Heisman, you know, how about you return some kicks,
(25:32):
like trying to get more attention to somebody.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Right, the closest we've seen to what Travis Hunter's doing
is Chris Gamble when Ohio State won the national title
in two thousand and two, and he was really good
on both sides of the ball, but that roster was
so loaded with NFL talent he didn't have to play
the amount of plays that Travis Hunter does. Like, we
just haven't seen it, and we're never going to see
this again. So cherish these moments here these next few weeks,
(25:57):
because you're never going to see somebody do this again.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
How did Michigan go from national champs to average?
Speaker 8 (26:04):
Jim Harbaugh delayed his decision.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Well, I mean his decision was on the NFL's timeline,
which is not on the transfer portals timeline. So the
time you would have spent figuring out who your quarterback
was going to be getting a quarterback out of the
transfer portal if you didn't like what you had on
your roster, which they didn't, all of that was wasted
because they were waiting on Jim Harborough to decide if
he was going to stay or leave, and so that
(26:30):
was the issue. So I don't bang on Sharon more
for the roster this year because he had really no
chance to address it.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
What he does in this offseason will tell us a
lot more.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, they're going to pony up, I mean LSU ponied
up for Jayden Daniels. They're going to pony up for
this Underwood kid, and they are.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
And they're also probably going to pony up for somebody
out of the portal. So Dave Portnoy, the Barstool Sports founder,
he's a proud Michigan grad and he's like, look, I'll
do seven figures to get somebody out there. So so
Bryce Utter was the number one quarterback recruiting class at
twenty twenty five. The plan I think for Michigan is
go get a big rental, one year old guy quarterback.
(27:11):
That's your starter, and then Bryce, if you can take
it from LSU, which they're fighting tooth and nail for that,
you'd be the developed guy.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I say, you get Joe Flacco, you put him in
for a year and then.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
And you let Anthony richardson development.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah that'll work. Yes, great to talk to you, so always,
thank you, Andy Banks. Dan love talking to Andy. Andy
Staples covers college football for on three Sports. Time to
play in or out? Paulie, would you explain the rules?
How do you play in or out?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
It's complex, Dan, so stay with me. Okay, I will
say something. Then you say whether you're in or out
on this concept?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, like a team. Hold on, let me see any questions. Oh,
Seatan has a question.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
Now, yesterday we play out out or back in? Is
this this is different?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Completely different?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Okay, I got it.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
It's like how the toilet goes the other way in Australia.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Australia, just like that.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Yeah, okay, So the only variations are is how you deliver.
I'm in or I'm out here first one Caleb William's
future in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Todd in Seaton, I'm in, Marvin, In I'm in. It's certainly.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
More NFL games in Europe and South America going.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
Forward, Todd, I know there will be, but I'm out
on that.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Sure, I'm in, Marvin. What bothers you about playing games
in other countries?
Speaker 10 (28:49):
And it's just very greedy and forced, and I rather
have more games.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Wait, you just called the NFL greedy.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (28:56):
I rather have as many games as possible here, especially
if people want to go see their team and they
can't afford it as it is here.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
They surely can't afford flying to the countries to go too.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
But if the games are overseas, doesn't that save the
local fans money because they can't go to them.
Speaker 11 (29:10):
I guess I'd like to see them have more opportunities
to go to games with whatever budget they have, and
more games in our country.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
As long as they don't export the Super Bowl and
you get everybody gets eight home games. I'm okay, I'm in,
I'm fine, all.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Right, in or out. The all New Russell Wilson Bandwagon
we're three games in. Okay, it's a there. There's a
lot of room on it.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Put it that way.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Tire Rack supplied the tires for the bandwagon for Russell Wilson. Yeah,
just let you know. And they have so no speakers
on there as well, and they serve Miller Lite as well,
like a NASCAR drive.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So, Todd, are you in or.
Speaker 10 (29:52):
I am biased because I still have Denver wounds to lick.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
So I'm gonna go out out Seaton. I'm I like
this story. Let's go rus Marvin.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
If there's meat off the trigger, I mean.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Well, once we get to where we need to go,
that's when the trigger's set up. I'm in on Russell Wilson.
You here the third we're early.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
How about this?
Speaker 10 (30:12):
Out of nowhere?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Kyler Murray the Cardinals is an MVP candidate.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right now, fifth best odds according to DraftKings. Todd out
on that, Seaton.
Speaker 12 (30:24):
Out out, WHOA, I'm sorry, this is the wrong game.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I guess I'm just a little just out a little
while season.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Sorry, Marvin out. I'm in all right, I'm in it
with my good friend Kyler Murray. So, Kyler, are you
going to play football or are you going to play baseball?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
But heady.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Two more, Dan, thanks for the collaboration on that little
Beavis and butt.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Head in or out the NBA holding its in season
tournament in November.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Todd out, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
I don't like these contrived trophy awards. How do we
get people more interested before Christmas? Let's make this some tournament.
I just I don't like the courts, and I don't
like the whole gimmick.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
I don't. Damn year old is answering the question all right,
like I'm I supposed to.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
See in a round? I'm in, all right, Marvin, I'm in. Yeah,
I'm in. I don't care, And.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
So what it's not bothersome? Yeah, speak for yourself.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Todd is bothered by it.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yes, my apologies.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Those courts are ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
One more, I'm okay with I swear, I'm okay with
the courts watching Golden State. Man, this bothers you. You
came in today, of all the things to talk about.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Just hideous.
Speaker 10 (31:46):
It looks like someone like spray painted something. I don't
know what. I guess. The younger kids like, it's not
for you, louder the better or whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Todd you wear Zubaz pants.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
I do, but that's usually the privacy amount home all
that I've worn him.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, no, no, you've worn him here.
Speaker 10 (31:58):
I have him to work, all right?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
One more in or okay, this is for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
We will want to get it now. In or out
on Mike Tyson kicking Jake Paul's.
Speaker 10 (32:05):
Ass, Todd, I'm very in on that.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Actually, Seaton in in Marvin all the way in. Yeah,
in in In.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I think America called and staid they're in.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
How many times do you think that people rooted for
Mike Tyson in a fight? Now, you might have for
the spectacle, but like he's an underdog.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Yeah, I mean I think back in the day he
rooted for him, like every fight, did you I think so?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Maybe I was.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
I was on a certain ease, but I was like,
I wanted to see him as fast as possible.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I wanted to see him whin.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
M Mike's like the dad at the skate park yelling
at the kids, and everyone's rooting for the dad, and
said the kids at the skate park.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Hmm, all right, let me take a break. Class call
for phone calls, what we learn? What's in store tomorrow?
I believe Shaq is going to join us tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern,
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Wapp yep todd says, it's official. Shaquille O'Neill, Damn Patrick,
shut the hell up, We'll join us on the program tomorrow.
Good buddy, Ross Tucker. Get us ready for the Thursday
night game. Commander's Eagle. Nice, that's spicy. A couple of
phone calls in here. Let me see Chase in Oregon. Hi, Chase,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (33:20):
Good Marrion dany a soft one seventy And I've got
three of your top callers here with me, and we
wanted to give you a best of the weekend and
I wanted to see if you could guess who they are.
Speaker 14 (33:33):
Okay, good morning, mister Patrick.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Gus in LA, thanks for taking my call. Brother James
in Virginia.
Speaker 14 (33:47):
Let's go fritzea Buddha.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
And San Francisco.
Speaker 14 (33:52):
So, Dan, I was watching the Chiefs and Broncos game
at my restaurant over here in the Bay Area, And Dan,
did you see poor number fifty seven for the Broncos
get absolutely manhandled and Pancakes Man just flat on his back.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I mean, Dan, that was just not good.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Thank you Chase Curtis in Illinois, Hi, Curtis.
Speaker 15 (34:16):
Mort Gp just had a couple suggestions, assuming you're flying
into Iowa for your grand road trip, had some ideas
and when Kurt Warner was on it kind of gave
me another one of touring all the colleges in Iowa.
You or you and I have Kurt Warner come with.
Maybe go to Ames to Iowa State, get your boy
Rock Purty, pick a tight end that you can take
(34:38):
to Iowa with you. But as somebody that lives in
Illinois that drives over the Mississippi to Debuque every day
for the work for work, I want to throw Dubuke
in the in the ring because I know you love
you some Dubuque.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Well, thank you, Curtis. We're getting a lot of suggestions.
I just talked to Seatan this morning about trying to
do a road trip, and I promise that we're serious
about trying to do a road trip where we do
five days in Iowa in five different cities as we
visit our radio affiliates, there that we're going to try
to do that maybe in the springtime.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Yes, Marvin, are we going to somebody's house for dinner?
Like a home cooked meal?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I think it would be fun if we were able
to do something like that where we had a contest
in each city and then we got to go and
we went to your place for dinner. What do you think?
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Yeah, you went, all five of us?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
You sure?
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh, I go? You go?
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Good Midwest home cooked meals?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yes? Yes, ay?
Speaker 12 (35:34):
How are you having us?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (35:43):
Howld your dog?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I am taller in person. Yeah. No, that is the
voice I use on the radio. Yes, No, this is fine.
It's fine. No, it's fine. No, everything tastes great. No, Sally, Sally,
stop it tastes great. Okay, I'll have another burger. But
we are thinking about going to Iowa. I'm serious. I
(36:09):
just I don't know why it hit me, but Seaton
has been saying we should do a road trip, and
I go, I don't want to do a road trip.
And then he's like, what if we go to Iowa?
It's awesome, man, is the best? Yeah, all right, those
there my people go to Iowa. I think the new
basketball coach the women's coach Iowa reached out said, hey,
come on.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
In, coach Shenson.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah, maybe I'll get in layup lines. I don't know.
I don't know right now. We're work shopping it. I'm
looking at next spring that maybe we go to Iowa.
Who's with me?
Speaker 10 (36:45):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Good? Okay? I just want to make sure, all right, Paulie,
this day in sports history.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I got one fun one.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
This is fun.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
We're gonna play a little game on this date. In
nineteen ninety three, the Dallas Mavericks began a twenty game
streak of losses nineteen ninety three maps. Who can name
three Dallas Mavericks from the nineteen ninety three season. Derek
Carper Derek Harper's correct, and then good job, thank you
two a little more obvious. And then a bunch of randos.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Our boy Jim Jackson, Jim Jackson's crack. Our other boy,
I don't think he's our boy.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Jamal Jamal Bashburn is correct? Oh, all right, one more anyone.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Jay Kidd wasn't on there. I got Roy Tarpley.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
No, he was gone. You did one of his games
in college at Southern Illinois, but he didn't go to
Southern Illinois Big.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Man by Joan by Jones is correct, had those ears.
It still does he does still have those just checked.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Fat leaver Sean Rooks, Doug Smith out of Missouri.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
That's about it, okay to you. Let me see on
this date, eighteen seventy five, the first college football game
played using uniforms the naked before. I don't know what
they had on before that. Harvard Yale. Let's see will
he stargel? Keith Hernandez shared the National League MVP Award
(38:09):
nineteen seventy nine. The first NBA player to score twenty
thousand career points nineteen sixty four, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Bob Pettit, whoa blue blue?
Speaker 10 (38:28):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Wow, that is all right. I did not know that one.
Well done, well done, So shock on the program tomorrow.
Ross Tucker will join us Seaton. Final results of the
poll question. Yeah, we got a few of them up there.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
I get easily have a conversation between Dylan and Kyler Murray.
Dentist talking to you while they work on your mouth
is relaxing or annoying? Right now, we're up to eighty
seven percent find it annoying?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Fun?
Speaker 9 (39:00):
Who you got this weekend bills? Or Chiefs fifty seven
percent have the bills. Excuse me, Yeah, a lot of
people see the Chiefs winning street coming to an end.
Speaker 12 (39:10):
Oh okay, yeah, how about that?
Speaker 8 (39:12):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (39:12):
Also, would you give the twelfth spot to college football
playoff spot to Boise State or Army right now?
Speaker 12 (39:20):
Army has sixty three percent of that Poe.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Army would be a better story. Boise State might be
a better team.
Speaker 12 (39:27):
That's why don't we have them play each other to
see who gets okay?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Playing game?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Playing game, Todd, what did you learn today?
Speaker 11 (39:34):
Your dentist has beefy fingers. It's like he's putting hot
dogs in your mouth.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
How see O'Connor dentist?
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Just stop Marvin Kurt Warner say, Daniel Jones has been decent.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Possible seventy sixteen NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Marvin are ton?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Is it?
Speaker 10 (39:50):
Ton? It's ton?
Speaker 11 (39:51):
Boise State would bump Georgia from the College Football Playoff
if it began today.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
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Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
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