January 9, 2025 • 42 mins
NBA commentator Mike Breen joins Dan to discuss the big night in the NBA, with a heavyweight match between Victor Wembanyama and Giannis Antetokounmpo. Former Alabama quarterback and football commentator Greg McElroy thinks Deion Sanders should remain at Colorado rather than chasing the NFL; he also discusses the College Football Playoff Semifinals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on this Thursday, Dan and The Dana's Dan
Patrick Show. Mike Breen was on the call with the
Cavaliers and the Thunder last night. He'll join us coming
up in a couple of minutes. Greg McElroy, former Alabama quarterback,
won a national title. He'll be on the call for
the Mothership with Notre Dame versus Penn State. Notre Dame
favored by one and a half. It's been that round one,
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one and a half.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Two.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Ohio State six, five and a half, six and a
half against Texas. That'll be tomorrow. Chris Faller will be
on the call for that game. He'll join us coming
up on the program tomorrow. Stat of the Day brought
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the program. The Tour's new season continues in Hawaii a
Decie Matsuyama leading a stacked field the Wilei Country Club,
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The Sony Open Saturday and Sunday on NBC and Peacock
Wilei Country Club. That always brings back memory. I was
out there for a Sandler movie, the movie Just Go
with It, and I was there with Brooklyn Decker, Nicole Kitman,
Jennifer Aniston, and I was a night club owner. And
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the night before I'm going to shoot my scene, Nick Schwartzen,
Schwarty stand up comedian, says let's go out. Let's go drinking.
And I said no. I said, look, you're double A
and I'm a Hall of Famer. We're not going to
do this. And he said no, let's go. I said, okay. Now,
Adam Sandler has one rule, and that one rule is
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to make sure you don't end up in the newspaper,
don't get arrested. So we go out and we went
to Tommy Bahamas. They had a store and a bar,
and we get there and we're doing mind Erasers. Well
I'm not a mind eraser guy, but we started doing
some mind Erasers and a couple other beverages. And I
(02:00):
say good night to Nick Schwartzen because I have to
shoot the next day. Next day, can't find Nick Schwartzen,
He's supposed to be in a movie. Can't find him
in the morning, can't find him in the afternoon. Late
in the afternoon, I'm shooting my scene. He comes in.
He has sand all over his hair and he had
actually fallen asleep in one of the sand traps on
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the Whyline golf course. He lost his phone, but he
as he said, I didn't make it in the newspaper.
I didn't get arrested. But he was like fifty feet
from his hotel. He just took a right instead of
a left and ended up in a sand trap. Yes, Pauling, imagine.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
You're the greenskeeper. You're you show up, let's say Schwartz
and left. He got back, but you go to the green,
you go to the you're to break up the bunkers,
and there's an outline of a body in the bunker.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm going to guess that's happened before, by the way,
But yeah, Nick Schwartzen Wilei Country Club. Great memories there.
Mike Breen ESPN, ABC, NBA play by play commentator on
the call last night Cleveland against Oklahoma City. Did it
feel like a finals preview to you?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
It did a long way to go, and there's a
lot of teams that will have to say about that.
But the buzz in the place, it just was different.
I had to keep reminding myself it's January eighth, so
easy does it? But it had a spectacular feel. You
could tell the players were so fired up and so
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into it. You know, they're all trying to say it's
a regular game, but it wasn't. They knew it, The
crowd knew it. It was. It was really wonderful for
a game on January eighth.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
When you do a show, when you if it's on
the Mothership or radio show, whatever you like, to play
the hits and the Cavaliers aren't playing the hits. But
they've gotten to that point, Mike, They're thirty two and four.
You can't ignore the topic. This is one of the
great starts in the history of the NBA. Do you
get that? And so people are really struggling to grab
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a hold of this. Certainly Cleveland, Oklahoma City, we expect
them to be maybe there in the finals. Cleveland, they've
been a really good team, but they just haven't been,
you know, in the headlines because Lebron's gone.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Couldn't agree more. It's like I even said in our
open I repeated the record to Richard Jefferson, not because
he didn't he didn't know it. Obviously he knew it,
but it just sounds crazy to say that the Cleveland
Cabs are thirty two and four, and they're that good.
They're really that good. And I think the fact that
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the betting line now still has the Boston Celtics the
clear favorite to come out of the East, despite the
fact that the Caves are doing this, and it's you know,
it's a credit to the whole organization from Kobe Altman
who made the roster, the patience to keep the roster
and not make you know, sudden changes because they lost
in the first round two years ago and got beaten
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pretty bad in the second round last year, although it
was injuries. They just they play such fun basketball to
watch because they play team basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I have a bet here with Marvin and uh I
think there'll be two Cavaliers name to the All Star team.
He says four.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Won't be four. I think three is a really good bet.
I think Mitchell Mobley and and Darius Garland. Although Jared
Allen in the last couple of weeks he's played as
well as any of them, so it's it's gonna be interesting.
It'll be interesting to see. I think four is a
lot because you know, you know, Boston has definitely two.
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New York has definitely two. Although there was a couple
of normal guys that get on that aren't going to
make it, so I wouldn't count it out. They certainly
deserve it. It's you know, like you said, it's it's
one of the greatest of any era, of any team,
of any franchise. It's one of the greatest starts that
the league has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
If you were going to describe Shay Gilgis Alexander to
somebody who hadn't seen him play, how would you do it?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
A magical control of his body and no matter where
he goes, no matter what he does, an incredible poise
where nobody can speed him up and nobody can really
stop him kill her instinct. And even though you know
he's averaged so many points, he is such a team
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first guy. Everything about him he's he's it's hard to
do it in just a quick sentence. He's got this
supreme confidence but at the same time humility. He's just
he's a perfect guy to kind of take over the
throne of of of the superstars now with some of
the some of our greats aging. Everything about him is
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is just wonderful from a from a league standpoint, in
terms of being the guy that you know, could lead
the next generation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I kind of see some Kawhi Leonard comps with him,
because Kawhi had an ability when he was healthy to
control the tempo of a game. Not necessarily a three
point shooter, but had that ability to if he wanted
to take you inside or that mid range jumper. And
you know, maybe similar size. I don't know if Shae
is a little bit taller, but do you see that
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comp Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
No, I like that because neither one of them you
would say, are fast. They're both athletic, but that's not
what they rely everything on. They're both super smart, you know.
I think that's a big part of it. Shay smiles
a little bit more than Kawhi, but it's, you know
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what the two The other thing you could say about
the two of them, and this is something Munch He
could play in any era. He could have played in
the sixty his game because he kind of incorporates every
everything from from the way players scored sixty seventy, you know,
the nineties. He can take the physical style of the nineties.
You know, he's improved on his three point shooting of
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today's current game. He's one of those guys that he's
just He's just a great basketball player that could play
in any era.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
We're talking to Mike Breeney, you know, ESPN, ABC, NBA
play by play commentator on the call last night, calves
in the thunder. How often do you get somebody coming
up to you and say, hey, Mike, can you give
me a bang?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You really want to know? When I go into an arenas,
it's it's all the time, and i take it as
a as a compliment, and I'm flattered, like you wouldn't
believe that that people say that. But when they start
the kids start shoving the phone in your face and
they're yelling, say bangs. It's sometimes it gets a little much.
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But I'm again, I'm so flattered by it that this
one word has been so good to me.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, but wait a minute, how do you do that
when somebody says, hey, Mike, will you say bang? Do
you just go bang?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
What?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
What? Sometimes? I just go bang? Well, sometimes I'll say that.
I if it's after a game, I'll say I lost,
I lost my boys.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What constitutes or warrants a double bang?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
There?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
There's no formula. Yeah, it's it's strictly off the flow
of the game. What's going on? And wow, is this
this stumble of it? It really just comes out. I wish
I had a better answer. I'm sorry, you know, I'm
next time we're on, I'm going to come up with
a better answer.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I got to help you with your profile here. I mean,
let's let's embrace it. Do we do we have a copyright?
Do we got T shirt?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Mike?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
First off, you've always been helpful, so I appreciate any
additional help. I don't don't have copyright. I have I
have a T shirt, but that's just one. I never
thought of selling it. And you know, here's the interesting thing,
And I don't know if you and I have discussed this.
I'm not the first one to use it. And I
didn't know this until later. Johnny Most used to say
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bang when he did Celtics radio back.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
In the day.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You weren't aware of that.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
You just were not aware of it. And his son,
his son, who was in the business, Jamie, his son,
alerted me to it. And I think right after I
found that out, I did bang in a Celtic game
and I said, that's dedicated to the great Johnny Most.
But you know, back in the day. We didn't if
you weren't in that town, you didn't know or listen
really to the radio voices of other teams. Now you
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could listen to the entire broadcasts of other teams no
matter where you are. But I didn't know it at
the time.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I watched when Ba Yama, when Ben Yama the other
night against Joker, and I said the following day, he's
going to win an MVP before he's twenty five, if
you don't now. I didn't have a great scoring night,
but he's got like a he can shoot the three.
You know, he's a force. At the other end. I'm
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trying to figure out what is going to be his weakness,
like Yanna's is not a great shooter, you know, these
guys have weaknesses. But Wemby looks pretty polished, Mike.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
He does everything really well. And I agree with you,
in a matter of a year or two, he's going
to be great at everything. I mean, there's certain things
he's great at now. But he doesn't really have a weakness.
You know, he's going to get stronger every year. He's
improved on his perimeter game every year. But his is
just his instincts, his feel for the game and his
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desire to keep working every single day to get better.
When you talk to this Furst people that they they're
pinching themselves because not only is this kid such an
unbelievable talent, but his his makeup mentally and his desire
to be the best who's ever played is just is
off the charts. So I would not bet against you
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on that. Twenty five. Now, he's going to win multiple MVPs,
that's for sure. I don't know by what age, but
he's going to win multiple.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
If I said to you, you have to pick one
of the two teams most likely to be in the
finals of the two teams last night.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Not going to do it.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Not going to do it.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
I'm sorry. There's so much you know what The cool
thing is, there's so much time left, and because this
year there's a possibility of a number of players, like
really good players, who are going to change teams by
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the trading deadline. That could absolutely swing who's the favorite.
So that's what I find fascinating. So there might be
a team that we're thinking they'll make the playoffs, but
they won't do much. All of a sudden, they pick
up one or two guys and now their favorites to
get to the finals. So it's really hard to do that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Right now, who retires first, Lebron, Steph or KD.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
KD is going to keep playing for a long time.
Steph is still loving and Lebron is still loving too.
I think maybe Lebron because he's starting to drop hints.
But then again, he also just said that he knows
he could contribute until he's fifty, which he could. And
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that's the crazy thing, Like if he wanted to, he
could be fifty years old and probably average fifteen six
and four. I mean, he absolutely could do it.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Could you ever see him rank higher than Jordan?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I don't. Here's another cop out. Don't be mad at me,
but I refuse to ranked players from different eras. It's
just it's impossible. I mean, whether you want to talk
about Russell or Chamberlain or Alcindor or Kobe or Lebron
or Michael. I mean, it's hard to ever argue against
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Michael Jordan. But my favorite saying is comparison is the
thief of joy, And to start comparing one to the
other all of a sudden, to make your point, you're
starting to criticize the other, And how do you criticize
the other.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I think I've used you. I've I've talked to you
long enough. I can hear the voice. Maybe it's starting
to waiver a little bit here?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
What's starting a waiver?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It just sounds like you're kind of losing your voice.
It's it's sound as like like, guys, I think we
can all agree. It sounds like Breen's voice is going
a little bit there. Yeah, it's a little yeah. You know,
I'm not going to compare. I mean, you're not Doc
Rivers because Doc Rivers sounds like this.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
You got to give me forty eight, guys, you got
to give me forty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's frizzy.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I could tell. I could tell it was him.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, you know Todd.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Do you have any idea how important Todd was to
my career? No? Well, when I worked on the imis
in the morning show, my whole stick was getting getting
quality sound bites to play off of and have fun.
And he was the morning news and sports producer, and
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he was the one that would find the bites that
he knew would work, and he knew I would like
to try and work. He was I couldn't have done
it without him. He was spectacular.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Because I thought you were awesome with that when you
had fun with these sound bikes. And now we're talking
about Todd Fritz, right, yes, okay, all right, fair enough. Wow,
I didn't know I'm a journalist, Todd. I got to
ask these questions.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
So I started at w F with Breen in the gang.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
He was amazing, He was amazing him and another guy
who did it was Craig Shamides. Those two guys were invaluable.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well that's great to know, and I know the voice
is going so I don't know your next game, so
I'm gonna let you rest that, but thank you for
sharing your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Quite well.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That's Mike Breen, play by play voice for the Mothership
in ABC. He was on the call last night. Yeah,
nobody wants to make a prediction, especially when you have
to go to all these teams in these different cities.
Wait a minute, you think the Calves could go further
than Onklaombus here. All I know is my Rockets have
the number two seed in the West right now, Okay,
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I told you at the beginning of the year. Now,
Orlando's got a ton of injuries. But I thought Orlando
in Houston. Were going to be big surprises. Yes, Marvin, Polo,
Ben Carol, he's coming back this week. Yeah, I know
what about the Wagners, ladies and gentlemen, the Wagners, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Two things first, you know what. The Troit Pistons are
a game over.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I like that it's been a while.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
I like that Todd is dining out on that shout
out by the way.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Well, that felt nice. That was nice.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
All right?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
How about you can you do the same thing for
us that you did for Mike Grekon.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Okay, I have to step on my game a little bit,
all right.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Greg McElroy will be on the call for tonight's game
Notre Dame Penn State. He'll join us coming up next year,
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Speaker 2 (18:30):
The Raiders are in search of their fifth head coach
since twenty twenty, I think they're now paying three coaches
to not coach the Raiders. So the Raiders are tied
with the Texans and Panthers for most head coaches over
that period and now with this opening, and I know
Dion says he wants to stay at Colorado. He's got
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a real good recruiting class. But I've said all along,
if he could go to the Raiders and he knew
that Shador was going there, and then he could draft
his son Shiloh as well, I wonder if that's something
that Tom Brady is considering or would consider. He is
Greg McElroy ESPN College football analyst. He'll be on the
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call ABC ESPN tonight. It's Penn State, Notre Dame. How
about we start there, Dion in the NFL or staying
at Colorado.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Well, are you suggesting which way I would If I
were giving Don some type of advice, which way would
I go? I would probably stay at Colorado. You can
write your ticket there.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
He's become musty television. The Alamo Bowl game that he
lost by twenty thirty points was the highest rateed game
outside of the College Football Playoff in the bowl season.
He's appointment television for many And I think now with
the support that they're getting from an nil standpoint, Dan,
I think it's easier to win on a consistent level
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in college I think in the NFL, you can be
the greatest thing in the world and then fired the
next year. Yeah, college, you got a little bit more
runway if you can have a positive impact on the kids.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
All Right, the point spread tonight is Notre Dame by
one and a half. Let's say the game comes down
to that kind of point spread. Paint the picture for
the audience of you being the analyst tonight of how
you think that would play out in the final seconds.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well, it would be phenomenal, you'd know, Sean McDonough. Something
tells me we would have a voice crack, and we
would have a lot of energy, and we would have
one heck of a finish as long as a punter
doesn't drop it and allow Jalen watch Jackson to return
one to the house. That could elicit some stronger reaction.
That would be two or three voice cracks potentially. But Dan,
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I don't know about you. You've been a college football
fan for a long time and you've supported and helped
promote our sport, and we're very grateful to you for that.
But I think the college football Playoff, while we haven't
had the most compelling matchups from a competitive standpoint, it's
been captivating television, and I think if we could just
get one that would go the distance. You look at
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the game between Arizona State and Texas, a game that
went to overtime, multiple overtimes. That game had seventeen point
three million viewers at noon or one o'clock Eastern time
on New Year's Day, a window that had not performed
well in the past gets an all time high because
of how compelling that game was. And it was between
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two programs, one blue blood and one that's kind of
an upstart in Arizona State, that would be magnificent. But
I think if Notre Dame and Penn State, two of
the most storied programs, two of the top programs in
the history of college football from a win standpoint too,
in the top seven, if it comes down to the
wire like that, it'd be pretty remarkable. And it's probably
gonna be a defensive slugfest. It's gonna feel like a
pitcher's stool. It's gonna feel like, you know, Verlander on
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the mound against Kershaw ten years ago, and whoever can
somehow find a CNI singles got a chance to win
the game. It's gonna be pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Best player on the field tonight will be.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
When Notre Dames on offense. The best player on the
field tonight could actually be two players on either side,
depending on their health. Abdul Carter in all likelihood will
play four Penn State the defensive end. Pass rusher Kuiper's
got him as the number two overall player behind Travis Hunter.
Super dynamic player. I mean, but they move him around too.
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I mean, that's what's fun. I think he's not one
of those guys that's just stationary end of the line
of scrimmage player. Like he can be over the center,
he can be over the guard, he can blitz off
the second level like he's a very versatile piece. He
can move around. He is at less than one hundred
percent because of a shoulder injury that he has suffered
against Boise State. Played just seventeen snaps in that game,
so we'll be monitoring his availability as a game time decision.
Then on the other side of Jeremiah Love, who has
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a right knee injury, the running back for Notre Dame,
he hasn't really been all that effective. He hurt his
knee against USC in the final week of the regular season.
And has like thirteen touches in the two playoff games.
Since the problem is that one of those thirteen touches
is a ninety eight yard touchdown run, so he's still
got great top end speed. But those are the two
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players that I think are probably the most captivating television
for Tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Handicapped tomorrow night's game. Ohio State Texas.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Everybody's on Ohio State, aren't they?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
You know it's I feel like you're getting Texas on sale.
From a handicapping perspective, Texas on the heels of a
two overtime win as a double digit favorite, two touchdown
favorite against Arizona State, Texas Scott flaws when yours is flawed?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Are you going to buy it? It sounds like you
would buy Texas a home game.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
It feels well. Is Ohio State ever on the road?
I guess the other question that I've starting to realize
when it comes to neutral sites, man, Ohio State is
going to be there, and they're going to be like
and they're going to make their presence felt. I do
think though, that Texas is a really They're a team
that can absolutely match up. Again, I think they match
up really well. I'm not saying they'll win the game.
(24:11):
I actually think Ohio State will win the game. But
if you're gonna tell me I can get nearly seven,
if I get six six and a half five and
a half, I kind of lean Longhorns. I look at
where they're built in their strength. They're very similar to
Michigan with what they have along the defensive front. And
while I think Oregon's a good football team, I don't
think Oregon is as equipped. I know they beat Ohio
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State earlier in the season. I also acknowledge though that
that version of Ohio State very different than the Ohio
State that they saw just this last weekend that the
Rose Bowl. Ohio State at that time in that game
lost their left tackle Will Howard was not yet as
comfortable as he is right now. Their receiver Jeremiah Smith
in that game was a good player, but not a
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take over the game as the best player in college
football type of player at that point. So Ohio State's
very different. So they beat Oregon badly because Oregon took
the same plan that they used the first time around,
and they don't match up as well. Texas will kind
of keep things in front and their defensive line can
win the game. That's Texas's strength and that's where Ohio
State lost the game against Michigan. So I do think
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that Texas matches up better than anyone else up to
this point in the postseason against Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Greg McElroy, ESPN College Football Analyst, He'll be on the call.
It's on ABC and ESPN. Sean McDonough will be there,
Molly McGrath, Katie George and that starts at seven thirty Eastern.
Also part of Omaha Production's Always College Football podcast. Co
host of Mac and Cube in the Morning on WJOX
in Birmingham. How often do coaches get out coached? Oh
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a lot. I'll go back to what what Notre Dame
did against Kirby Smart, what Marcus Freeman did when they
swapped out and then they were gonna punt they were not.
Then you get off set. I mean, that's that's one moment.
But to me, that helped change the game. So I
don't know, Like you played for Nick Shaban, but the
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number of times, like Bill Belichick, how many times will
he out coach somebody in the college in college games?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
You know what's funny is it? And I know that
this is like the most obvious coach speak thing ever,
So apologize in advance. But more games are lost than one,
you know what I'm saying. Like, we'll go back to
the game and the Sugar Bowl with Notre Dame against Georgia.
Two moments stand out in the game. Okay, one was
at the end of the half. They have a backup
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quarterback in the game. Notre Dame is thinking, Hey, they're
going to run the ball, take it to half. The
game's going to be six ' three. Notre Dame's got
a slight lead, but for the most part, you know,
it's a low scoring game and it's lacked a lot
of offense. Well, they put their run defense personnel in
the game. R. J Oben is a guy that at
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that moment had zero sacks on the season. Well, what
does he do. He goes right around the left tackle, stripsack, fumble, recovery.
Notre Dame on the next offensive snap, touchdown. Now it's
a game that is feels like it's blown open at
thirteen to three. That was one moment in the game,
and that was Kirby being probably a little bit too
aggressive there at the end of half. Hindsight's twenty twenty, Like,
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do you really expect your left tackle to get killed
by a run stopping defensive end? Probably not all right,
So that was one moment. The other moment was, like
you referenced late in the game, Marcus Freeman ops to
run his punt team on on fourth and one, and
then all of a sudden run his punt team off
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put his offense on, which allows Kirby's team and defense
to substitute. But they're thinking about getting lined up. The
last thing they're thinking about in that scenario is the
snap count. It was chaotic on the sideline, it was
chaotic near the line of scrimmage. Their best player again
and Jalen Walker, who's going to be a three or
four time All Pro in his career, lean's just ever
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so slightly on the neutral zone, free play first down.
Next thing, you know, nine plays later, in six minutes
off the clock, they've stolen a possession. So I think
great coaches know how to just tweak and create that
slight edge to steal a possession, whether it's a timely
on sidekick, a fake punt, a surprise on sidekick, the
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thing going forward on fourth down, maybe backed up and
getting it. Somehow, great coaches know at that perfect time
when to pull that card and play it. Marcus did
it once and Kirby made a mistake at the end
of half, and that's why the game ended up the
way it ended up.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
How often have you had to or did you have
to consciously say to Greg McElroy, former Alabama quarterback, don't
be sec friend friendly because you're going to get criticized
no matter what, because we're going to read into what
you say and how you say it. But I'm asking
you understanding that have you had to remind yourself be
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be as fair as possible, even though subconsciously it might
still be in your DNA?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I don't even know, And I think it's a great question.
I think it's all from a matter of perspective. Like
if you want to know who I am biased towards,
it's great teams, you know what I mean? Like like
I kind of just follow. I like to watch the
teams that executed at a really high level, like I really
really and I've all and whether it was Michigan last year,
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or whether it was TCU two years ago, or whatever
the teams it may be. I've always loved Utah like
I just love how they you know, never maybe as
far as getting off the bus, maybe not the best team,
but even dating back to when urban Meyer was there
in the early two thousands, it's long been a team
I've just had a tremendous amount of admiration for. So
I've kind of found myself navigating to words the teams
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that play really high level football. As far as the
SEC stuff, I do have more familiarity with the league.
Let's be real. I called five Georgia games this year.
I called four Kentucky games. You know, I called four
Ole miss games. I called a couple of the Tennessee games,
couple Bama games. You just have maybe a deeper understanding
(30:23):
of the depths of the roster. But there's never really
a point if you do your work professionally, I could
care less what patch they have on their jersey. I
simply see numbers, names, coaches, records, statistics, and tendencies. What
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conference they align with is not one that I usually
pay a lot of attention to. And I know people
ask me all the time, how do you call Bama
games and not get not allow your fandom to come
out pretty easily because when I was in school, I
was probably harder on Alabama as a player, and I
could ever be in this line of work. So I
think if you look at it through a not a
(31:05):
critiquing lens, but a lens in which you're trying to
offer constructive criticism and point out observations, then the conference
affiliation should have no impact on how you call the game.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But college football is about brands. You know, everybody was
screaming for Alabama to be in the playoffs, and I go, no,
they don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I think it's about brands to an extent. I do
think there's there is this perception that you know this,
you know, they the big brands are going to get
preferential treatment.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't know if that, but they do bring eyeballs.
Do they do bring like Notre Dame brings eyeballs?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
People are going to watch absolutely, absolutely, And I think
because of Alabama, they're like, well, do we want Boise
State or Arizona State in there? And we want Alabama
in there? And we saw Alabama against Michigan in the
bowl game. You know, they just weren't a great team
a good team this year and I think that's a
problem for college football. We get top heavy with Georgia,
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Ohio State, Clemson used to be in there. It's like
the same six or seven schools every year that we
get programmed to think, Oh, those are the best teams
in the country. Arizona State was awesome. I mean that
was so much fun. And Boise State did what Boise
State was supposed to do. Indiana did what they were
(32:24):
supposed to do. Now do I think Indiana was deserved
to be in there? No from a talent perspective or
who they played, but they played who's on their schedule.
So I until we come up with a better format
with this greg or scenarios that make it fairer, you know,
I don't want us to fall back on well, I
don't know, just put Alabama in, put Clemson in. Yeah,
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I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I worry what in doubt? What in doubt? Give the
teams with more stars, meaning like star ratings, the recruiting
ratings like don and Dowe, give them the benefit of
the doubt. I don't think that's the proper way to
go about it, because while would Alabama potentially have been
more competitive in the playoff setting, I have no idea,
(33:08):
you know, and that's why I can't sit here and
pound the drum. Oh. Clearly, we need to reevaluate, you know,
how we're seating teams or how we're putting teams in
and who should get in and who should Now I
think there are things we can do to adjust our
criteria by incentivizing improved and strengthened non conference schedules. I
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would like to see that because that benefits all of us.
If we see stronger non conference games, that's going to
only create more intrigue and maybe add a little more
context to the conference supremacy argument. I'd like to see it.
We see it in basketball. If you play a murderer's
row schedule in the non conference, than your likelihood of
having a high RPI come tournament times really high. And
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if you're nineteen and fifteen from Syracuse, doesn't really matter
because you make the tournament. Next thing, you know, in
a play in game, you're eleven seed, you're playing the
final four. So we've seen it in the past. I mean,
it's definitely, it's definitely possible. I'd like to see stronger
non conference because right now, in beloaded conferences, you can't.
Not all SEC schedules are created equal, not all Big
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ten schedules are created equal. So I think non conference
play is where we need to focus. And if we
can incentivize teams that go out of their conference and
play top tier competition, that should be rewarded, regardless of
the outcome. In some cases now they get blown out. No,
absolutely not, like that's a data point that needs to
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be considered. But it also if it's close, and if
it was on the road and you tried to go
play a top tier team and lost, that should be
rewarded as opposed to playing an FCS team and winning
by thirty five. You know what I'm saying, man.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I think it should come down to Vegas should be
relied on to rank the teams, your top twelve teams.
It should be Vegas. Vegas has no opinion, no bias.
They're they are looking at what is the best matchups,
and I think I think Vegas would make more sense.
I don't want these automatic berths. I don't want any
of that. It should be here's the twelve best teams.
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I saw you cringing.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yes to an extent, yes, because if we did that,
then USC from a power rating standpoint at the season's
end at seven and five is in the mix if
we went strictly off Vegas. Now Vegas plays a little
bit on psychology too. I mean, why do you think
now power ratings are a factor, But there's also you
know which team is playing better at the moment, which
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team is going to garner more public interest? Which team
is If I set the line, maybe shade the line
maybe a point point and a half higher, is that
going to generate more buzz and to create balance on
either side of the line. I just think Vegas, Vegas
has different incentives. While I understand and appreciate the thought
process of that, then at that point, why do we
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play the game. Let's just have a sixty four team
tournament and let's just let's just see how things go.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That'll be enough rad and let's go.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
I liked. I like.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I don't think it's broken. The one thing I would
adjust is I think that Big ten and SEC conference
champions should be rewarded with a home playoff game. And
however we figure out the ball system after the fact,
I think we'll probably get rid of bias because it's proven,
at least in this tournament. That the buy does not
benefit you, and how can we get the conference champions
to get home games? That needs to be examined as well.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
All Right, have fun tonight, Okay, I appreciate you, all right,
and be nice to both sides. Okay always Okay, Greg McElroy,
I'll be on the call with Sean McDonough tonight. Festivities
start at ABC and ESPN at seven thirty Eastern. We'll
be back after this.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Chris Faller on the show tomorrow, Bill Cower on the
show tomorrow, Arizona State head coach, see you on the
show tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Kenny Dillingham is part of tomorrow show.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, he'll bring some energy there. How about we write
the headline tomorrow's headline today for tonight's game Notre Dame
in Penn State. I'm gonna have Todd go last because
he's been killing it and he sets the bar too high. Marvin,
I'm gonna start with you.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
We are eliminated. Notre Dame goes to the national title game.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Wow Wow, and you got your Notre Dame sweatshirt on today?
Come on all day, all right, Paulie Tomorrow's headline today.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Mark us down for the national title game.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Seaton.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
Uh, Pen's fate's fight maybe destiny not in the cards
for Nitney Lions. Penn's fate, destiny not in the cards,
not in the stars.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Take this serious one day. I am no you, I
am um set.
Speaker 10 (38:01):
I'm letting Todd sharing. Here you go, Todd, Irish state
was more competitive. No, it's not good domination. Paul's done
an Irish joke at least fifteen hundred times times today.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Damonation, exclamation point.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
When it's not good, it's not good, Marvin, I apologize.
I called you mcleven earlier in the show, like, man, what.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Did I do to deserve that?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
You know what, when I closed my good eye, you
kind of look like mcleven.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Wait, close your eyes one second. Okay. I love Andydon,
he's the best.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Hey, mcclevin, mcleby goes man. I got all these dms
from friends saying what up with that? I go, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. I think that's the only time. Is that
the first time I've called you McLevin. Yeah, I think
ye month one month one. It happened like one or
two times. Is were going to break? Okay, all right,
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it won't happen again. Ray in New York, Hi Ray,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Ray?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Hey? Ray?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Hie Ray?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Let me see Aaron in Michigan.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Hi erin.
Speaker 11 (39:20):
Hi Dan second time long time six three to forty.
Just wanted to give you and the boys a little
chance to enjoy some of Iowa's finest food on your
road trip there. If you stop in a little ten
about in half hour north of Des Moines, we'll.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Hey, we'll work on that. Once we know when we're going.
We'll get suggestions from you. May not happen till like
May or June, but we'll let you know when we're going,
where we're going, and then you can offer up suggestions
there places to stop along the way. So just let's
not do that until we get ready to go there,
because nobody's going to write these things down, and we
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want to make sure if there's places to see, just
like when we go to Green Bay, we're going to
be there for a few days. If there's a chance
we can go to a couple places, great, then We'll
try to do that same thing with the Super Bowl
in New Orleans. And if you're in New Orleans and
you want to stop by on a Wednesday night at
Tippatinas at seven Central time, it'll be uh Dan Interviews Dan.
(40:25):
I'll be there with Dan Levitard and tickets are available
Danpatrick dot com across our social media platforms, Seaton, would
you give us final results of the pole? Questions, Paulie,
this day in sports history, what do you have for us?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Nineteen sixty two, the NFL banned the grabbing of face masks.
They thought about it the year before they voted against
it in nineteen sixty one. Soft nineteen seventy two, the
LA Lakers ended their thirty three game winning streak. Nineteen
seventy seven Super Bowl XI set a pro attendance record
of one hundred and three thousand, and in a gutsy
(40:58):
move in nineteen ninety, the Hockey News selected Wayne Gretzky
as the best NHL player ever.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay Radical all Right wild BiVO Francis in nineteen fifty
three scored one hundred and sixteen points. He played for
Rio Grand, a small college in Ohio, beat Ashland College
Well the NCAA said that doesn't count because Ashland College
at the time was a two year school, So less
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than a year later he scored one hundred and thirteen
points against Hillsdale. That's a four year score. BiVO Francis,
that sounds like a not a thirty for thirty because
I don't know how many people would care, but like
this guy, I think he was seven feet tall scoring
all these Maybe it's just for me. That's what we learned.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on this Thursday, Dan and The Dana's Dan
Patrick Show. Mike Breen was on the call with the
Cavaliers and the Thunder last night. He'll join us coming
up in a couple of minutes. Greg McElroy, former Alabama quarterback,
won a national title. He'll be on the call for
the Mothership with Notre Dame versus Penn State. Notre Dame
favored by one and a half. It's been that round one,
(00:26):
one and a half.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Two.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Ohio State six, five and a half, six and a
half against Texas. That'll be tomorrow. Chris Faller will be
on the call for that game. He'll join us coming
up on the program tomorrow. Stat of the Day brought
to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of
the program. The Tour's new season continues in Hawaii a
Decie Matsuyama leading a stacked field the Wilei Country Club,
(00:51):
The Sony Open Saturday and Sunday on NBC and Peacock
Wilei Country Club. That always brings back memory. I was
out there for a Sandler movie, the movie Just Go
with It, and I was there with Brooklyn Decker, Nicole Kitman,
Jennifer Aniston, and I was a night club owner. And
(01:13):
the night before I'm going to shoot my scene, Nick Schwartzen,
Schwarty stand up comedian, says let's go out. Let's go drinking.
And I said no. I said, look, you're double A
and I'm a Hall of Famer. We're not going to
do this. And he said no, let's go. I said, okay. Now,
Adam Sandler has one rule, and that one rule is
(01:36):
to make sure you don't end up in the newspaper,
don't get arrested. So we go out and we went
to Tommy Bahamas. They had a store and a bar,
and we get there and we're doing mind Erasers. Well
I'm not a mind eraser guy, but we started doing
some mind Erasers and a couple other beverages. And I
(02:00):
say good night to Nick Schwartzen because I have to
shoot the next day. Next day, can't find Nick Schwartzen,
He's supposed to be in a movie. Can't find him
in the morning, can't find him in the afternoon. Late
in the afternoon, I'm shooting my scene. He comes in.
He has sand all over his hair and he had
actually fallen asleep in one of the sand traps on
(02:22):
the Whyline golf course. He lost his phone, but he
as he said, I didn't make it in the newspaper.
I didn't get arrested. But he was like fifty feet
from his hotel. He just took a right instead of
a left and ended up in a sand trap. Yes, Pauling, imagine.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
You're the greenskeeper. You're you show up, let's say Schwartz
and left. He got back, but you go to the green,
you go to the you're to break up the bunkers,
and there's an outline of a body in the bunker.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm going to guess that's happened before, by the way,
But yeah, Nick Schwartzen Wilei Country Club. Great memories there.
Mike Breen ESPN, ABC, NBA play by play commentator on
the call last night Cleveland against Oklahoma City. Did it
feel like a finals preview to you?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
It did a long way to go, and there's a
lot of teams that will have to say about that.
But the buzz in the place, it just was different.
I had to keep reminding myself it's January eighth, so
easy does it? But it had a spectacular feel. You
could tell the players were so fired up and so
(03:29):
into it. You know, they're all trying to say it's
a regular game, but it wasn't. They knew it, The
crowd knew it. It was. It was really wonderful for
a game on January eighth.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
When you do a show, when you if it's on
the Mothership or radio show, whatever you like, to play
the hits and the Cavaliers aren't playing the hits. But
they've gotten to that point, Mike, They're thirty two and four.
You can't ignore the topic. This is one of the
great starts in the history of the NBA. Do you
get that? And so people are really struggling to grab
(04:03):
a hold of this. Certainly Cleveland, Oklahoma City, we expect
them to be maybe there in the finals. Cleveland, they've
been a really good team, but they just haven't been,
you know, in the headlines because Lebron's gone.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Couldn't agree more. It's like I even said in our
open I repeated the record to Richard Jefferson, not because
he didn't he didn't know it. Obviously he knew it,
but it just sounds crazy to say that the Cleveland
Cabs are thirty two and four, and they're that good.
They're really that good. And I think the fact that
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the betting line now still has the Boston Celtics the
clear favorite to come out of the East, despite the
fact that the Caves are doing this, and it's you know,
it's a credit to the whole organization from Kobe Altman
who made the roster, the patience to keep the roster
and not make you know, sudden changes because they lost
in the first round two years ago and got beaten
(04:59):
pretty bad in the second round last year, although it
was injuries. They just they play such fun basketball to
watch because they play team basketball.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I have a bet here with Marvin and uh I
think there'll be two Cavaliers name to the All Star team.
He says four.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Won't be four. I think three is a really good bet.
I think Mitchell Mobley and and Darius Garland. Although Jared
Allen in the last couple of weeks he's played as
well as any of them, so it's it's gonna be interesting.
It'll be interesting to see. I think four is a
lot because you know, you know, Boston has definitely two.
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New York has definitely two. Although there was a couple
of normal guys that get on that aren't going to
make it, so I wouldn't count it out. They certainly
deserve it. It's you know, like you said, it's it's
one of the greatest of any era, of any team,
of any franchise. It's one of the greatest starts that
the league has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
If you were going to describe Shay Gilgis Alexander to
somebody who hadn't seen him play, how would you do it?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
A magical control of his body and no matter where
he goes, no matter what he does, an incredible poise
where nobody can speed him up and nobody can really
stop him kill her instinct. And even though you know
he's averaged so many points, he is such a team
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first guy. Everything about him he's he's it's hard to
do it in just a quick sentence. He's got this
supreme confidence but at the same time humility. He's just
he's a perfect guy to kind of take over the
throne of of of the superstars now with some of
the some of our greats aging. Everything about him is
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is just wonderful from a from a league standpoint, in
terms of being the guy that you know, could lead
the next generation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I kind of see some Kawhi Leonard comps with him,
because Kawhi had an ability when he was healthy to
control the tempo of a game. Not necessarily a three
point shooter, but had that ability to if he wanted
to take you inside or that mid range jumper. And
you know, maybe similar size. I don't know if Shae
is a little bit taller, but do you see that
(07:22):
comp Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
No, I like that because neither one of them you
would say, are fast. They're both athletic, but that's not
what they rely everything on. They're both super smart, you know.
I think that's a big part of it. Shay smiles
a little bit more than Kawhi, but it's, you know
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what the two The other thing you could say about
the two of them, and this is something Munch He
could play in any era. He could have played in
the sixty his game because he kind of incorporates every
everything from from the way players scored sixty seventy, you know,
the nineties. He can take the physical style of the nineties.
You know, he's improved on his three point shooting of
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today's current game. He's one of those guys that he's
just He's just a great basketball player that could play
in any era.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
We're talking to Mike Breeney, you know, ESPN, ABC, NBA
play by play commentator on the call last night, calves
in the thunder. How often do you get somebody coming
up to you and say, hey, Mike, can you give
me a bang?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You really want to know? When I go into an arenas,
it's it's all the time, and i take it as
a as a compliment, and I'm flattered, like you wouldn't
believe that that people say that. But when they start
the kids start shoving the phone in your face and
they're yelling, say bangs. It's sometimes it gets a little much.
(08:52):
But I'm again, I'm so flattered by it that this
one word has been so good to me.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, but wait a minute, how do you do that
when somebody says, hey, Mike, will you say bang? Do
you just go bang?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
What?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
What? Sometimes? I just go bang? Well, sometimes I'll say that.
I if it's after a game, I'll say I lost,
I lost my boys.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What constitutes or warrants a double bang?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
There?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
There's no formula. Yeah, it's it's strictly off the flow
of the game. What's going on? And wow, is this
this stumble of it? It really just comes out. I wish
I had a better answer. I'm sorry, you know, I'm
next time we're on, I'm going to come up with
a better answer.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I got to help you with your profile here. I mean,
let's let's embrace it. Do we do we have a copyright?
Do we got T shirt?
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Mike?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
First off, you've always been helpful, so I appreciate any
additional help. I don't don't have copyright. I have I
have a T shirt, but that's just one. I never
thought of selling it. And you know, here's the interesting thing,
And I don't know if you and I have discussed this.
I'm not the first one to use it. And I
didn't know this until later. Johnny Most used to say
(10:12):
bang when he did Celtics radio back.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
In the day.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You weren't aware of that.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
You just were not aware of it. And his son,
his son, who was in the business, Jamie, his son,
alerted me to it. And I think right after I
found that out, I did bang in a Celtic game
and I said, that's dedicated to the great Johnny Most.
But you know, back in the day. We didn't if
you weren't in that town, you didn't know or listen
really to the radio voices of other teams. Now you
(10:40):
could listen to the entire broadcasts of other teams no
matter where you are. But I didn't know it at
the time.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I watched when Ba Yama, when Ben Yama the other
night against Joker, and I said the following day, he's
going to win an MVP before he's twenty five, if
you don't now. I didn't have a great scoring night,
but he's got like a he can shoot the three.
You know, he's a force. At the other end. I'm
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trying to figure out what is going to be his weakness,
like Yanna's is not a great shooter, you know, these
guys have weaknesses. But Wemby looks pretty polished, Mike.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
He does everything really well. And I agree with you,
in a matter of a year or two, he's going
to be great at everything. I mean, there's certain things
he's great at now. But he doesn't really have a weakness.
You know, he's going to get stronger every year. He's
improved on his perimeter game every year. But his is
just his instincts, his feel for the game and his
(11:45):
desire to keep working every single day to get better.
When you talk to this Furst people that they they're
pinching themselves because not only is this kid such an
unbelievable talent, but his his makeup mentally and his desire
to be the best who's ever played is just is
off the charts. So I would not bet against you
(12:07):
on that. Twenty five. Now, he's going to win multiple MVPs,
that's for sure. I don't know by what age, but
he's going to win multiple.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
If I said to you, you have to pick one
of the two teams most likely to be in the
finals of the two teams last night.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Not going to do it.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Not going to do it.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
I'm sorry. There's so much you know what The cool
thing is, there's so much time left, and because this
year there's a possibility of a number of players, like
really good players, who are going to change teams by
(12:45):
the trading deadline. That could absolutely swing who's the favorite.
So that's what I find fascinating. So there might be
a team that we're thinking they'll make the playoffs, but
they won't do much. All of a sudden, they pick
up one or two guys and now their favorites to
get to the finals. So it's really hard to do that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Right now, who retires first, Lebron, Steph or KD.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
KD is going to keep playing for a long time.
Steph is still loving and Lebron is still loving too.
I think maybe Lebron because he's starting to drop hints.
But then again, he also just said that he knows
he could contribute until he's fifty, which he could. And
(13:37):
that's the crazy thing, Like if he wanted to, he
could be fifty years old and probably average fifteen six
and four. I mean, he absolutely could do it.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Could you ever see him rank higher than Jordan?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
I don't. Here's another cop out. Don't be mad at me,
but I refuse to ranked players from different eras. It's
just it's impossible. I mean, whether you want to talk
about Russell or Chamberlain or Alcindor or Kobe or Lebron
or Michael. I mean, it's hard to ever argue against
(14:14):
Michael Jordan. But my favorite saying is comparison is the
thief of joy, And to start comparing one to the
other all of a sudden, to make your point, you're
starting to criticize the other, And how do you criticize
the other.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I think I've used you. I've I've talked to you
long enough. I can hear the voice. Maybe it's starting
to waiver a little bit here?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
What's starting a waiver?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It just sounds like you're kind of losing your voice.
It's it's sound as like like, guys, I think we
can all agree. It sounds like Breen's voice is going
a little bit there. Yeah, it's a little yeah. You know,
I'm not going to compare. I mean, you're not Doc
Rivers because Doc Rivers sounds like this.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
You got to give me forty eight, guys, you got
to give me forty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's frizzy.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I could tell. I could tell it was him.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, you know Todd.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Do you have any idea how important Todd was to
my career? No? Well, when I worked on the imis
in the morning show, my whole stick was getting getting
quality sound bites to play off of and have fun.
And he was the morning news and sports producer, and
(15:28):
he was the one that would find the bites that
he knew would work, and he knew I would like
to try and work. He was I couldn't have done
it without him. He was spectacular.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Because I thought you were awesome with that when you
had fun with these sound bikes. And now we're talking
about Todd Fritz, right, yes, okay, all right, fair enough. Wow,
I didn't know I'm a journalist, Todd. I got to
ask these questions.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
So I started at w F with Breen in the gang.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
He was amazing, He was amazing him and another guy
who did it was Craig Shamides. Those two guys were invaluable.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Well that's great to know, and I know the voice
is going so I don't know your next game, so
I'm gonna let you rest that, but thank you for
sharing your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Quite well.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That's Mike Breen, play by play voice for the Mothership
in ABC. He was on the call last night. Yeah,
nobody wants to make a prediction, especially when you have
to go to all these teams in these different cities.
Wait a minute, you think the Calves could go further
than Onklaombus here. All I know is my Rockets have
the number two seed in the West right now, Okay,
(16:40):
I told you at the beginning of the year. Now,
Orlando's got a ton of injuries. But I thought Orlando
in Houston. Were going to be big surprises. Yes, Marvin, Polo,
Ben Carol, he's coming back this week. Yeah, I know
what about the Wagners, ladies and gentlemen, the Wagners, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Two things first, you know what. The Troit Pistons are
a game over.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I like that it's been a while.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
I like that Todd is dining out on that shout
out by the way.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Well, that felt nice. That was nice.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
All right?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
How about you can you do the same thing for
us that you did for Mike Grekon.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Okay, I have to step on my game a little bit,
all right.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Greg McElroy will be on the call for tonight's game
Notre Dame Penn State. He'll join us coming up next year,
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Speaker 2 (18:30):
The Raiders are in search of their fifth head coach
since twenty twenty, I think they're now paying three coaches
to not coach the Raiders. So the Raiders are tied
with the Texans and Panthers for most head coaches over
that period and now with this opening, and I know
Dion says he wants to stay at Colorado. He's got
(18:52):
a real good recruiting class. But I've said all along,
if he could go to the Raiders and he knew
that Shador was going there, and then he could draft
his son Shiloh as well, I wonder if that's something
that Tom Brady is considering or would consider. He is
Greg McElroy ESPN College football analyst. He'll be on the
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call ABC ESPN tonight. It's Penn State, Notre Dame. How
about we start there, Dion in the NFL or staying
at Colorado.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Well, are you suggesting which way I would If I
were giving Don some type of advice, which way would
I go? I would probably stay at Colorado. You can
write your ticket there.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
He's become musty television. The Alamo Bowl game that he
lost by twenty thirty points was the highest rateed game
outside of the College Football Playoff in the bowl season.
He's appointment television for many And I think now with
the support that they're getting from an nil standpoint, Dan,
I think it's easier to win on a consistent level
(20:00):
in college I think in the NFL, you can be
the greatest thing in the world and then fired the
next year. Yeah, college, you got a little bit more
runway if you can have a positive impact on the kids.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
All Right, the point spread tonight is Notre Dame by
one and a half. Let's say the game comes down
to that kind of point spread. Paint the picture for
the audience of you being the analyst tonight of how
you think that would play out in the final seconds.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well, it would be phenomenal, you'd know, Sean McDonough. Something
tells me we would have a voice crack, and we
would have a lot of energy, and we would have
one heck of a finish as long as a punter
doesn't drop it and allow Jalen watch Jackson to return
one to the house. That could elicit some stronger reaction.
That would be two or three voice cracks potentially. But Dan,
(20:52):
I don't know about you. You've been a college football
fan for a long time and you've supported and helped
promote our sport, and we're very grateful to you for that.
But I think the college football Playoff, while we haven't
had the most compelling matchups from a competitive standpoint, it's
been captivating television, and I think if we could just
get one that would go the distance. You look at
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the game between Arizona State and Texas, a game that
went to overtime, multiple overtimes. That game had seventeen point
three million viewers at noon or one o'clock Eastern time
on New Year's Day, a window that had not performed
well in the past gets an all time high because
of how compelling that game was. And it was between
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two programs, one blue blood and one that's kind of
an upstart in Arizona State, that would be magnificent. But
I think if Notre Dame and Penn State, two of
the most storied programs, two of the top programs in
the history of college football from a win standpoint too,
in the top seven, if it comes down to the
wire like that, it'd be pretty remarkable. And it's probably
gonna be a defensive slugfest. It's gonna feel like a
pitcher's stool. It's gonna feel like, you know, Verlander on
(21:58):
the mound against Kershaw ten years ago, and whoever can
somehow find a CNI singles got a chance to win
the game. It's gonna be pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Best player on the field tonight will be.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
When Notre Dames on offense. The best player on the
field tonight could actually be two players on either side,
depending on their health. Abdul Carter in all likelihood will
play four Penn State the defensive end. Pass rusher Kuiper's
got him as the number two overall player behind Travis Hunter.
Super dynamic player. I mean, but they move him around too.
(22:33):
I mean, that's what's fun. I think he's not one
of those guys that's just stationary end of the line
of scrimmage player. Like he can be over the center,
he can be over the guard, he can blitz off
the second level like he's a very versatile piece. He
can move around. He is at less than one hundred
percent because of a shoulder injury that he has suffered
against Boise State. Played just seventeen snaps in that game,
so we'll be monitoring his availability as a game time decision.
Then on the other side of Jeremiah Love, who has
(22:55):
a right knee injury, the running back for Notre Dame,
he hasn't really been all that effective. He hurt his
knee against USC in the final week of the regular season.
And has like thirteen touches in the two playoff games.
Since the problem is that one of those thirteen touches
is a ninety eight yard touchdown run, so he's still
got great top end speed. But those are the two
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players that I think are probably the most captivating television
for Tonight's game.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Handicapped tomorrow night's game. Ohio State Texas.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Everybody's on Ohio State, aren't they?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
You know it's I feel like you're getting Texas on sale.
From a handicapping perspective, Texas on the heels of a
two overtime win as a double digit favorite, two touchdown
favorite against Arizona State, Texas Scott flaws when yours is flawed?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Are you going to buy it? It sounds like you
would buy Texas a home game.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
It feels well. Is Ohio State ever on the road?
I guess the other question that I've starting to realize
when it comes to neutral sites, man, Ohio State is
going to be there, and they're going to be like
and they're going to make their presence felt. I do
think though, that Texas is a really They're a team
that can absolutely match up. Again, I think they match
up really well. I'm not saying they'll win the game.
(24:11):
I actually think Ohio State will win the game. But
if you're gonna tell me I can get nearly seven,
if I get six six and a half five and
a half, I kind of lean Longhorns. I look at
where they're built in their strength. They're very similar to
Michigan with what they have along the defensive front. And
while I think Oregon's a good football team, I don't
think Oregon is as equipped. I know they beat Ohio
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State earlier in the season. I also acknowledge though that
that version of Ohio State very different than the Ohio
State that they saw just this last weekend that the
Rose Bowl. Ohio State at that time in that game
lost their left tackle Will Howard was not yet as
comfortable as he is right now. Their receiver Jeremiah Smith
in that game was a good player, but not a
(24:52):
take over the game as the best player in college
football type of player at that point. So Ohio State's
very different. So they beat Oregon badly because Oregon took
the same plan that they used the first time around,
and they don't match up as well. Texas will kind
of keep things in front and their defensive line can
win the game. That's Texas's strength and that's where Ohio
State lost the game against Michigan. So I do think
(25:14):
that Texas matches up better than anyone else up to
this point in the postseason against Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Greg McElroy, ESPN College Football Analyst, He'll be on the call.
It's on ABC and ESPN. Sean McDonough will be there,
Molly McGrath, Katie George and that starts at seven thirty Eastern.
Also part of Omaha Production's Always College Football podcast. Co
host of Mac and Cube in the Morning on WJOX
in Birmingham. How often do coaches get out coached? Oh
(25:47):
a lot. I'll go back to what what Notre Dame
did against Kirby Smart, what Marcus Freeman did when they
swapped out and then they were gonna punt they were not.
Then you get off set. I mean, that's that's one moment.
But to me, that helped change the game. So I
don't know, Like you played for Nick Shaban, but the
(26:09):
number of times, like Bill Belichick, how many times will
he out coach somebody in the college in college games?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
You know what's funny is it? And I know that
this is like the most obvious coach speak thing ever,
So apologize in advance. But more games are lost than one,
you know what I'm saying. Like, we'll go back to
the game and the Sugar Bowl with Notre Dame against Georgia.
Two moments stand out in the game. Okay, one was
at the end of the half. They have a backup
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quarterback in the game. Notre Dame is thinking, Hey, they're
going to run the ball, take it to half. The
game's going to be six ' three. Notre Dame's got
a slight lead, but for the most part, you know,
it's a low scoring game and it's lacked a lot
of offense. Well, they put their run defense personnel in
the game. R. J Oben is a guy that at
(27:00):
that moment had zero sacks on the season. Well, what
does he do. He goes right around the left tackle, stripsack, fumble, recovery.
Notre Dame on the next offensive snap, touchdown. Now it's
a game that is feels like it's blown open at
thirteen to three. That was one moment in the game,
and that was Kirby being probably a little bit too
aggressive there at the end of half. Hindsight's twenty twenty, Like,
(27:23):
do you really expect your left tackle to get killed
by a run stopping defensive end? Probably not all right,
So that was one moment. The other moment was, like
you referenced late in the game, Marcus Freeman ops to
run his punt team on on fourth and one, and
then all of a sudden run his punt team off
(27:43):
put his offense on, which allows Kirby's team and defense
to substitute. But they're thinking about getting lined up. The
last thing they're thinking about in that scenario is the
snap count. It was chaotic on the sideline, it was
chaotic near the line of scrimmage. Their best player again
and Jalen Walker, who's going to be a three or
four time All Pro in his career, lean's just ever
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so slightly on the neutral zone, free play first down.
Next thing, you know, nine plays later, in six minutes
off the clock, they've stolen a possession. So I think
great coaches know how to just tweak and create that
slight edge to steal a possession, whether it's a timely
on sidekick, a fake punt, a surprise on sidekick, the
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thing going forward on fourth down, maybe backed up and
getting it. Somehow, great coaches know at that perfect time
when to pull that card and play it. Marcus did
it once and Kirby made a mistake at the end
of half, and that's why the game ended up the
way it ended up.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
How often have you had to or did you have
to consciously say to Greg McElroy, former Alabama quarterback, don't
be sec friend friendly because you're going to get criticized
no matter what, because we're going to read into what
you say and how you say it. But I'm asking
you understanding that have you had to remind yourself be
(29:09):
be as fair as possible, even though subconsciously it might
still be in your DNA?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I don't even know, And I think it's a great question.
I think it's all from a matter of perspective. Like
if you want to know who I am biased towards,
it's great teams, you know what I mean? Like like
I kind of just follow. I like to watch the
teams that executed at a really high level, like I really
really and I've all and whether it was Michigan last year,
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or whether it was TCU two years ago, or whatever
the teams it may be. I've always loved Utah like
I just love how they you know, never maybe as
far as getting off the bus, maybe not the best team,
but even dating back to when urban Meyer was there
in the early two thousands, it's long been a team
I've just had a tremendous amount of admiration for. So
I've kind of found myself navigating to words the teams
(30:01):
that play really high level football. As far as the
SEC stuff, I do have more familiarity with the league.
Let's be real. I called five Georgia games this year.
I called four Kentucky games. You know, I called four
Ole miss games. I called a couple of the Tennessee games,
couple Bama games. You just have maybe a deeper understanding
(30:23):
of the depths of the roster. But there's never really
a point if you do your work professionally, I could
care less what patch they have on their jersey. I
simply see numbers, names, coaches, records, statistics, and tendencies. What
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conference they align with is not one that I usually
pay a lot of attention to. And I know people
ask me all the time, how do you call Bama
games and not get not allow your fandom to come
out pretty easily because when I was in school, I
was probably harder on Alabama as a player, and I
could ever be in this line of work. So I
think if you look at it through a not a
(31:05):
critiquing lens, but a lens in which you're trying to
offer constructive criticism and point out observations, then the conference
affiliation should have no impact on how you call the game.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But college football is about brands. You know, everybody was
screaming for Alabama to be in the playoffs, and I go, no,
they don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I think it's about brands to an extent. I do
think there's there is this perception that you know this,
you know, they the big brands are going to get
preferential treatment.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't know if that, but they do bring eyeballs.
Do they do bring like Notre Dame brings eyeballs?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
People are going to watch absolutely, absolutely, And I think
because of Alabama, they're like, well, do we want Boise
State or Arizona State in there? And we want Alabama
in there? And we saw Alabama against Michigan in the
bowl game. You know, they just weren't a great team
a good team this year and I think that's a
problem for college football. We get top heavy with Georgia,
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Ohio State, Clemson used to be in there. It's like
the same six or seven schools every year that we
get programmed to think, Oh, those are the best teams
in the country. Arizona State was awesome. I mean that
was so much fun. And Boise State did what Boise
State was supposed to do. Indiana did what they were
(32:24):
supposed to do. Now do I think Indiana was deserved
to be in there? No from a talent perspective or
who they played, but they played who's on their schedule.
So I until we come up with a better format
with this greg or scenarios that make it fairer, you know,
I don't want us to fall back on well, I
don't know, just put Alabama in, put Clemson in. Yeah,
(32:45):
I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I worry what in doubt? What in doubt? Give the
teams with more stars, meaning like star ratings, the recruiting
ratings like don and Dowe, give them the benefit of
the doubt. I don't think that's the proper way to
go about it, because while would Alabama potentially have been
more competitive in the playoff setting, I have no idea,
(33:08):
you know, and that's why I can't sit here and
pound the drum. Oh. Clearly, we need to reevaluate, you know,
how we're seating teams or how we're putting teams in
and who should get in and who should Now I
think there are things we can do to adjust our
criteria by incentivizing improved and strengthened non conference schedules. I
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would like to see that because that benefits all of us.
If we see stronger non conference games, that's going to
only create more intrigue and maybe add a little more
context to the conference supremacy argument. I'd like to see it.
We see it in basketball. If you play a murderer's
row schedule in the non conference, than your likelihood of
having a high RPI come tournament times really high. And
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if you're nineteen and fifteen from Syracuse, doesn't really matter
because you make the tournament. Next thing, you know, in
a play in game, you're eleven seed, you're playing the
final four. So we've seen it in the past. I mean,
it's definitely, it's definitely possible. I'd like to see stronger
non conference because right now, in beloaded conferences, you can't.
Not all SEC schedules are created equal, not all Big
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ten schedules are created equal. So I think non conference
play is where we need to focus. And if we
can incentivize teams that go out of their conference and
play top tier competition, that should be rewarded, regardless of
the outcome. In some cases now they get blown out. No,
absolutely not, like that's a data point that needs to
(34:31):
be considered. But it also if it's close, and if
it was on the road and you tried to go
play a top tier team and lost, that should be
rewarded as opposed to playing an FCS team and winning
by thirty five. You know what I'm saying, man.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I think it should come down to Vegas should be
relied on to rank the teams, your top twelve teams.
It should be Vegas. Vegas has no opinion, no bias.
They're they are looking at what is the best matchups,
and I think I think Vegas would make more sense.
I don't want these automatic berths. I don't want any
of that. It should be here's the twelve best teams.
(35:08):
I saw you cringing.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yes to an extent, yes, because if we did that,
then USC from a power rating standpoint at the season's
end at seven and five is in the mix if
we went strictly off Vegas. Now Vegas plays a little
bit on psychology too. I mean, why do you think
now power ratings are a factor, But there's also you
know which team is playing better at the moment, which
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team is going to garner more public interest? Which team
is If I set the line, maybe shade the line
maybe a point point and a half higher, is that
going to generate more buzz and to create balance on
either side of the line. I just think Vegas, Vegas
has different incentives. While I understand and appreciate the thought
process of that, then at that point, why do we
(35:53):
play the game. Let's just have a sixty four team
tournament and let's just let's just see how things go.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That'll be enough rad and let's go.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
I liked. I like.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I don't think it's broken. The one thing I would
adjust is I think that Big ten and SEC conference
champions should be rewarded with a home playoff game. And
however we figure out the ball system after the fact,
I think we'll probably get rid of bias because it's proven,
at least in this tournament. That the buy does not
benefit you, and how can we get the conference champions
to get home games? That needs to be examined as well.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
All Right, have fun tonight, Okay, I appreciate you, all right,
and be nice to both sides. Okay always Okay, Greg McElroy,
I'll be on the call with Sean McDonough tonight. Festivities
start at ABC and ESPN at seven thirty Eastern. We'll
be back after this.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Chris Faller on the show tomorrow, Bill Cower on the
show tomorrow, Arizona State head coach, see you on the
show tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Kenny Dillingham is part of tomorrow show.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, he'll bring some energy there. How about we write
the headline tomorrow's headline today for tonight's game Notre Dame
in Penn State. I'm gonna have Todd go last because
he's been killing it and he sets the bar too high. Marvin,
I'm gonna start with you.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
We are eliminated. Notre Dame goes to the national title game.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Wow Wow, and you got your Notre Dame sweatshirt on today?
Come on all day, all right, Paulie Tomorrow's headline today.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Mark us down for the national title game.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Seaton.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
Uh, Pen's fate's fight maybe destiny not in the cards
for Nitney Lions. Penn's fate, destiny not in the cards,
not in the stars.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Take this serious one day. I am no you, I
am um set.
Speaker 10 (38:01):
I'm letting Todd sharing. Here you go, Todd, Irish state
was more competitive. No, it's not good domination. Paul's done
an Irish joke at least fifteen hundred times times today.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Damonation, exclamation point.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
When it's not good, it's not good, Marvin, I apologize.
I called you mcleven earlier in the show, like, man, what.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Did I do to deserve that?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
You know what, when I closed my good eye, you
kind of look like mcleven.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Wait, close your eyes one second. Okay. I love Andydon,
he's the best.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Hey, mcclevin, mcleby goes man. I got all these dms
from friends saying what up with that? I go, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. I think that's the only time. Is that
the first time I've called you McLevin. Yeah, I think
ye month one month one. It happened like one or
two times. Is were going to break? Okay, all right,
(38:58):
it won't happen again. Ray in New York, Hi Ray,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Ray?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Hey? Ray?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Hie Ray?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Let me see Aaron in Michigan.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Hi erin.
Speaker 11 (39:20):
Hi Dan second time long time six three to forty.
Just wanted to give you and the boys a little
chance to enjoy some of Iowa's finest food on your
road trip there. If you stop in a little ten
about in half hour north of Des Moines, we'll.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Hey, we'll work on that. Once we know when we're going.
We'll get suggestions from you. May not happen till like
May or June, but we'll let you know when we're going,
where we're going, and then you can offer up suggestions
there places to stop along the way. So just let's
not do that until we get ready to go there,
because nobody's going to write these things down, and we
(40:02):
want to make sure if there's places to see, just
like when we go to Green Bay, we're going to
be there for a few days. If there's a chance
we can go to a couple places, great, then We'll
try to do that same thing with the Super Bowl
in New Orleans. And if you're in New Orleans and
you want to stop by on a Wednesday night at
Tippatinas at seven Central time, it'll be uh Dan Interviews Dan.
(40:25):
I'll be there with Dan Levitard and tickets are available
Danpatrick dot com across our social media platforms, Seaton, would
you give us final results of the pole? Questions, Paulie,
this day in sports history, what do you have for us?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Nineteen sixty two, the NFL banned the grabbing of face masks.
They thought about it the year before they voted against
it in nineteen sixty one. Soft nineteen seventy two, the
LA Lakers ended their thirty three game winning streak. Nineteen
seventy seven Super Bowl XI set a pro attendance record
of one hundred and three thousand, and in a gutsy
(40:58):
move in nineteen ninety, the Hockey News selected Wayne Gretzky
as the best NHL player ever.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay Radical all Right wild BiVO Francis in nineteen fifty
three scored one hundred and sixteen points. He played for
Rio Grand, a small college in Ohio, beat Ashland College
Well the NCAA said that doesn't count because Ashland College
at the time was a two year school, So less
(41:25):
than a year later he scored one hundred and thirteen
points against Hillsdale. That's a four year score. BiVO Francis,
that sounds like a not a thirty for thirty because
I don't know how many people would care, but like
this guy, I think he was seven feet tall scoring
all these Maybe it's just for me. That's what we learned.
(41:45):
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Dan Patrick
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