March 21, 2025 • 41 mins
Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher Paul Skenes, the new face of MLB The Show, stops by to talk about his thought process in dealing with Major League batters. CBS studio analyst and former Villanova basketball coach Steve Lappas talks about the NCAA Tournament and how his team game planned for Georgetown and Patrick Ewing.
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He said, you know, we're big fans, and then there's
like seven or eight movies that he's listed as if
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Eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot
com Twitter handle, the TP show the Pirates Rookie of
the Year. Paul's schemes will join us the Big ten
four to oh in the tournament. Thus far, Big East
three and oh sec four and three, and then you
have the ACC one in two Mountain West oh and two.
There is a little bit of conversation about the Big
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East and the ACC combining talents here, which you know,
you're seeing this with what happened with some of the
schools in the Big twelve. Saw this with the PAC twelve.
You're you kind of not divide in conquer, you want
to add in conquer. And maybe the ACC trying to
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figure this out. Uh, don't think they got to handle
on it yet, but maybe bringing in the Big East
with the ACC and maybe you have something there. But
a lot of tournament action last night. Kentucky was the
pre season number one team. They lost in the round
to sixty four. And now Kansas, I should say, preseason
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number one and then they lose. They haven't been as
formidable as we've expected Kansas to be since twenty seventeen.
And with Bill self, how much longer is he going
to do it? But they got humbled, they got beat
by Arkansas, and of course you can't spell Arkansas without Kansas.
How about that? Marvin yeah loop now yeah, oh I
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get a blue wow? Yeah? Oh, Todd, you should have
thought of that. That's that's worthy of a book. But Kansas, Wow,
don't make me come crowd hit you. Yeah, all right,
so uh acc one and two the Mountain West, oh
Win too. We'll talk to Steve Lapis, one of the
(04:38):
analysts for CBS. He does a great job, and it
feels like every year when I listen to him, I say,
we should get Steve Lapis on. And then yesterday I
said to Fritzy, I'm remembering it now in real time.
Let's get Steve Lapis on. He has passion and uh
so he had Saint John's winning and he had the
Arkansas game as well. So Steve Lapis will join us
(05:00):
coming up Paul Schemes. He is one of three MLB
The show twenty five cover athletes. This is the twentieth
anniversary honoring two decades of baseball history. Elie de la
Cruz and Gunner Henderson are on the cover as well.
The Pirates Rookie of the Year joining us on the program.
What did you learn from your rookie year or what
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do you wish that you had known in your rookie
year or when you were in the college minor leagues
coming up to the pirates.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I mean, the biggest thing I learned from getting to
the big leagues is that the game is a lot
more similar than I thought in terms of the actual
the baseball, you know play. Everything that's added on makes
it a lot harder. So traveling cross country we had
a couple of cross country flights last year. Our travel
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within the division's pretty good, you know, our hour long
or less than an hour long flights for the most
part within our division. But still, I mean, you got
the media in the in the locker room every day.
The food is different. It's it's better, but there's more
of it, so it's easy to you know, overindulge. Just
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a lot of a lot of little stuff like that
that makes it, uh just makes it makes it different
and probably makes it a little bit harder.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
What's the strangest thing you've thought of while you were
on the mound?
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Man, probably like doing math problems or something like that.
I don't know if you've ever seen I think it
was Major League or Major League two. The catcher is is,
you know, learning to get over the yips, and he
like memorizes a playboard magazine or something like that, And
I do that with math problems rather than you know,
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playboard magazines.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
But how does that help you?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
I mean, because it's it's very so it's very easy
to like focus too hard and try to execute a pitch,
you know, and then you just completely sail it or
like pull a slider or sail a heat or something
like that. So like having your mind not you know,
solely focused on on that pitch. It like a little
(07:21):
bit of distraction is sometimes a good thing.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Give me the guy that you keep an eye on
in the on deck circle that you know he's coming
to the plate.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
It's probably one per team. Usually it's like the three
hitter or something like that. Maybe it's to a team,
it's because we kind of like bucket hitters a little
bit to where we can pitch them similarly to get
them out. But there's always like one guy in the
lineup that's like, hey, this guy doesn't beat us. So
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I mean it's the one Soto's the day, Ellie Daily, Cruz,
Cody Andrew, those types of guys.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I mean, you know they're coming out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
What do you do when you disagree with your catcher?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Just shake?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I'll wear a pitch com too, and and I'll punch it.
In sometimes, but yeah, just shake there. There are no
hard feelings there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But you have final say yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I mean if I my experience is generally, if I
throw a pitch that I don't wholly believe in, uh,
it doesn't end well. So I have to, you know,
throw pitches that I believe in out there with you know,
full conviction, and that it generally ends ends pretty well.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But when you give up a big hit or a
home run in college, it's one thing. But when you
have thousands and thousands of people and you know it's
going to end up on Sports Center, Like, how do
you process that differently? If you can then when you
were in college and you gave up a home run?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, honestly. And I think this is probably more of
a change for me.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
But I think I took it, like, took it harder,
took it, took it more personally when I was in
college than I do now. And I think there are
probably a couple of reasons for that. I've I think
I've matured grown up a little bit. But also, uh,
we get to do it more often now in college.
It's like, you know, the SEC is the biggest thing
(09:20):
in the world and nothing else matters like, that's that's
the that's what they feed you, right. So when I
give up a home run at Ole Miss and the
beer's flying everywhere, like it feels like the end of
the world a little bit more than it does now.
When I give up a home run and you know,
Dodger Stadium or something like that, it's just and I
think I think part of that's because it's it's so
routine now, but I think a lot of it's because
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I've just like grown up to.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Talking to Paul's schemes and he's one of three MLB
The show twenty five cover athletes, You've got Gunner Henderson
and Ellie Dela Cruz tell us about the honor. How'd
you find out?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Yeah, I can't remember exactly when I found out. There's
something that I think, you know, we were in the
talks for for I don't know, probably the last summer,
last September around there kind of blends together when we're
in season. But it was cool when I, you know,
found out that it's, you know, no kidding happening. I mean,
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definitely some satisfaction there is. It's it's pretty cool. I've
you know, grown up seeing you know, the cover athletes
of the show and and seeing the game. It's been
a huge part of a lot of people's childhood.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
I think.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
As like the game that they want to play when
they when they get to play video games. So gamer
of I'm not. I'm not really a gamer at all.
So yeah, So the only time I would play the
show because I never had a PlayStation or Xbox or anything. Uh,
And the only time I would play the show is
when I like went to you know, my buddy's house
(11:01):
or something like that and they had it. But I've
always been terrible at it. And if I'm the kind
of person like, if I'm not good at something, I
just won't I'll just stop doing it. Yeah, I'm the
I'm gonna take my ball and go home type of guy.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
How territorial are you when it comes to the SEC,
whether it's football fourteen schools are in the NCAA tournament
the baseball with the SEC? Are you annoying to be
around when it's conversations about the SEC?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Now, because I'm a I'm a baseball guy first, football,
I could kind of care less about I mean, I'm
a true believer that because I'm an SEC guy. But
I'm a Mountain West guy too, and I'm a true
believer that the Mountain West just breeds winners. So I'm
probably more territory about the Mountain West because it's not
a you know, people don't people don't know about the
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Mountain West. But that's where that's where champions are made.
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Okay, But you're in Pittsburgh. They love their football there.
Do you go to gat you care about? Do you
go to games?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
But I mean because I look at college baseball and
call and uh and pro baseball is two different sports.
I I I never played football. I don't understand what's
going on out there. I know that you're supposed to
move the ball down the field, but I viewed college
football and pro football is two different sports too. So
I've gone to a Steelers game. It was it was
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really cool. I want to go back. I'm a Steelers fan,
you know now bleed black and gold.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
So but yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
They're fun to. The games are fun to go to.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Are you gonna be okay with the automatic strike zone?
Speaker 7 (12:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Hey, it's not in there this year, So I'm I'm
happy with that. I haven't I haven't challenged anything this spring.
It's not going to be in there this year. When
it comes it comes. I I like the human aspect
of the game because I think that, you know, there
are games where the umpire zone is big and there
are games where the umpire zone as small. Obviously catchers,
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you bring in the automatic strike zone, then it completely
devalues framing, which you know, effectively eliminates the catching position.
So I have mixed feelings towards it. I do like
the human aspect of the game, but there's definitely something
to be said about, you know, being objective with the
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strike zone.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, but when you're at the plate and all of
a sudden there's a you know, a star pitcher and
he gets a call, you're okay with that and it's
not a strike, but because of who he is, Justin
Berlander is going to get that call.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Yeah. I mean, I prefer it that way. I don't
have to hit anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Do you want to hit?
Speaker 8 (13:53):
No?
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Maybe BP occasionally, but I don't want to face Justin Berlander.
I don't want to face anything other guys. They're too
they're too uh, they're too good.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
If you were building the perfect picture, so you gave
me fastball, slider, curveball, change up. Who's using your fastball?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, I'd like to think all four of those are,
you know, mine, but uh, let's just not the taste.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
But you think that way.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Yeah, I mean because you can't use my fastball with
like because I would say, like my fastball and Clayton
Kershaw's curveball or something like that, but like we're the
exact opposite pitchers. Basically, I'd like to thank my fastball
Kershaw's curveball for sure, just to straight up and down curveball,
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change up, Scooball those are two lefties. Slider man, there's
so many good ones. I think a nice like for
for me, like a downer, a downer slider, like a
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de Gram, like a shorter downer slider, because that's something
I don't have.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
But there's I mean, strider's slider.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
There are so many, so many ways, so many different
ways to have a good slider, though so specifically a slider.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's amazing that these guys can hit this stuff. I mean,
they talked about hitting a baseball is the hardest thing
to do, and they're guys that are hitting one hundred
miles an hour. And it's like, so what.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Yeah, I don't I don't know how they do it.
I'll let them do it. That's why I'm not going
to try to try to get back in the box.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
UH.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Congratulations Opening Day, Congratulations on MLB the show that's the
UH cover with Elie Dela Cruz, Gunner Henderson and UH
this is on a the twentieth anniversary of that. Great
to talk to you again, Paul, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, no, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Paul skeins pirate Rookie of the Year last year, and
I think he's working on a couple of new pitches
that ought to please the rest of the hitters in baseball.
We'll take a break, we'll talk about your brackets. Coming
up Steve Lapis, he's an analyst for March Madness and
he'll join us here. Coming up next Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
It was on this date in nineteen fifty nine that
California beat West Virginia for the NCAA Championship. Jerry West
played for West Virginia. He didn't win the title, but
he was still named the most outstanding player. Jerry was
also I think the MVP of an NBA Finals when
the Lakers played the Celtics. I'm sure that Jerry West
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doesn't like that distinction. Rest in peace, but imagine you're
so good, you did everything you could possibly do, you
just didn't win. So I think nineteen sixty nine he
was the MVP of the NBA Finals and they lost
that championship. Steve Lapis joining us on loan from CBS
Sports studio analysts and college basketball analyst, former college hoo
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coach at Manhattan, Villanova, and UMass. You've done a great
job and I've been meaning to reach out to you
the last couple of years. Every time I hear you
in the tournament and I always go, we should get
Steve Lapis on. I love the energy that you have.
It's great to see you again, coach. How you doing.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
It's you, Dan, It's been a long time.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I think I go back to when was the first
time I met you?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Villanova, probably Villanova, maybe even Villanova's an assistant coach as
I was from eighty five to eighty eight, so probably
back then.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So you came up with the game planned to beat
Georgetown in the MC finals.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
You know what, that was my first year Dan as
an assistant coach.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
I came from high school the year before, and people
asked me about that all the time. I said, boy,
what did you do? I said, well, I was getting
the coffee, the sneakers.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
I was doing all those things in my first year.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And I always maintain when people talk about that as
one of the great upsets of all time, and I said,
I don't think it is. I think NC State beating
Houston was a bigger upset. Villanova. You had played Georgetown,
and I think he lost by six or eight points.
So you knew what you you know, you knew the battle,
you knew the Big East, you knew Georgetown, and therefore
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I don't view it as that big of an upset,
even though you guys had to play pretty much the
perfect game. How do you view it, Dan?
Speaker 7 (19:44):
I tell people that all the time. I know, you know, it's.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Great for us that we were part of his greatest
upset ever, but you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
We played them.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Twice that year, lost by four, lost by six. The
year before that, when I wasn't there, they beat Town Villanova.
Eddie picked me as a software had twenty two points
and twenty rebounds against Patrick Ewing in a game that
was an epic So we knew we did.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
We didn't feel it like getting ready for the game.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
I mean, we knew we had to play well. There's
no question that was an unbelievable team. And let's understand this.
We shot seventy nine percent. We won by two, so
you know what I mean. That tells you how good
they were. But I can't agree with you more. You know,
when you play somebody twice a year, we had seen
Patrick Ewing nine times before that.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
They would have intimidated anybody else they played.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
And I'll be honest with you, we were happy we
weren't playing Saint John's. It was a worst matchup for
us because we were a matchup zone team and Chris
Mullen was obviously one of the best shooters in the world.
Georgetown wasn't a good shooting team. We liked that matchup
better than Saint John's.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You know, you start to look at the all time
greats in college basketball. I don't know if Christian Latner
is the last of the all time greats because they're
not staying three or four years. It's usually if you're
really good. I mean, Cooper Flag could be one of
the great players of all time, but he's just going
to be a footnote of a one and done at
Duke and maybe they win a national title.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
You know, there's no doubt this is a new age.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
You know, we're not going to see the Bill Waltons
and the Leuel Senders, and you know, the even you know,
Christian Laytoner who was a good pro but wasn't like
obviously Bill Walton or Louel Sender, yeah, or even Pat
Patrick Ewing was one of the greatest college players that
ever was. So you know, it's just a different age now.
And even now it's even gotten crazier with this nil
(21:37):
and transfer portal. Even schools themselves forget about the general public.
It's hard for schools themselves to honor guys that are
only their school for one year and then they're gone.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I wondered about this. I brought it up with Dan Dakich,
and I said, Indiana never reached out to Steve Alferd
to coach there because you know, Clyde Drexler was Houston,
Mullen was at Saint John's, Patrick Ewing at Georgetown. You
can't hire somebody unless you know you can fire them.
And I'm just I was always curious why Steve Alford
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never got the opportunity to coach Indiana.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
You know, that's that's a great point, because here's a
guy who's won seven hundred games in his career. He's
been a tremendous coach his whole life from a young age.
He obviously was one of the greatest players in the
history of the school, you know, win the championship in
eighty seven, and yeah, it's just a surprising thing.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
What now.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I think probably part of it has to do with
the fact that they did coach at Iowa. That may
you know, he's got that job when he was younger,
and maybe that hurt him a little bit that he
coached another Big ten school. But he's a tremendous coach
and you know, would have been a great one at
at Indiana, no question.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
All right, you called games in Providence, so you had
Arkansas over Kansas, you had Saint John's over Omaha, and
that sets up Bettino Cali Perry. Where did that relationship
goes sideways between those two.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
You know, I think it went sideways like a long
time ago, to be honest, I think it's actually a
little better now, you know. I think part of it
was when John Caliberry got the UMass job. Rick Patino's
a UMass graduate and he had some input into you know,
who was going to coach at the school, and it
started got out that Rick Pattino was not in Caliberry's
(23:25):
corner for Caliberry to get the job, he wanted somebody
else to get So I think that's kind of where
it starting.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
And we all knew each other.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
We all met each other at the five Star basketball
camp back in nineteen eighty, so, you know, he go,
we go back a long way, and those two guys
go back a long way, and I think that's where
and then the rivalry just grew because you know, John,
they're both big personalities, as we know, and they both
you know, feel like they're great basketball coaches, which they are,
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and you know, I think the rivalry just grew from there.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
But I think it started with the UMass job.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And I forget who we had on, but they said
Jim Beheim, and Beheim said, you can put Patino there.
With Mike Skryzchewsky like he's he's on that level. Nobody's
where Wooden is, you know, for obvious reasons, but he said,
as far as modern day basketball coaches, greatest of all time,
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he would put Patino right there with coach K.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
What about you, absolutely, Dan, no question. I mean, think
about it.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Besides the fact he's got the eight hundred and seventy
five whatever wins, think about all the years he spent
in the NBA, so he would have a lot.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
More wins in college. He's got two titles. You know.
I always tell people me personally, like people ask me all.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
The time, if you had the one game you got
to win one game, who would you want to coach?
I said, there's two people, Bob Knight and Rick Patino
if I gotta win one game.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well that's how I praised there.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
He was not each k you know here, Coach K
was a great coach.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
I look at those guys different. See, Coach K he
was maybe the greatest leader of all time. That was
his things leadership. Not that he wasn't next to no
guy Knight and uh Beatino. Those guys were tinkerers. They
were excell No, not that I'm not in. Please, I
don't want anybody to take this like, oh, what are
(25:24):
you talking about?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Mike.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Mike chefs all time, the best, one of the best.
But those two guys were like they would tinker for
game plans. Mike Schesky's philosophy was, this is what we
do and we will do it better than what you do,
and we're gonna win.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
These guys they would change things. They would change this guy.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
And report they tweaked this, tweak that, And that's why,
I mean, one game, those guys will game plan to
make it hard.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
For you to win.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Steve lappis CBS Sports college basketball analyst. He has McNeese
State and Purdue and Arkansas and Saint John Waite. Are
you working in? Are you the early game here?
Speaker 9 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No, tomorrow, My game is, oh tomorrow. I was gonna say,
oh yeah, okay. I was like, boy, I'm uh holding
you back here?
Speaker 7 (26:09):
No, no, no, I had before yesterday.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Okay. Do you have any problem with Will Wade coaching
in the tournament knowing that he's going to take another job.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean, let's face it, it's it's not a
great situation, you know, for the kids, school or anybody.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
I will say this about will Wade, though he was
very honest. I was shocked.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
You know, you know how it is, Dane. You've been
doing this role so long. People say, well, you.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Know, I don't want to talk about that now or whatever.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
He was very open, he said, we asked him, he
said at the practice day before.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
He said, Yeah, I'm talking to NC State.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
He says, but I told my players that, and my
players I'm going to help them get to the next level.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
If guys want to transfer. We talk very openly about this.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
So I don't like it, but I give the guy
credit that he hasn't hidden from it. They were honest,
they didn't lie, and you know, you gotta there's something
to be said for that too.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, I'm okay with the transparency. I just find it
a little weird that he's helping the university, but he
might hurt the university because maybe he takes some of
these players with him de n C State, maybe part
of the coaching staff as well. So, yes, you're helping,
but then he could be hurting here in a week
or two.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
There's no definite, there's no there's no doubt that if
we were gonna put a scale which which way is
worse than the other.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
There's no doubt that the fact that this came out
and that he's going, he's worse for the school and
everybody involved.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
The only thing I'm saying is it's a bad situation
and he didn't lie about it.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
That's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
What's it like to get fired?
Speaker 7 (27:44):
You know, it's uh, it's it's it's it's a it's
it's an interesting question. Obviously it stings, as we know.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
But the thing that that gets you more than anything
else is that, uh, you spend your whole life doing
this thing that you think you're pretty good at, and
it's kind of been your dream, and then all of
a sudden you know it could be over, and so
you spend all your life from when you're a kid.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
You know, I know, for me, from when I was
a kid, it's all I wanted to do was coach.
Coach coach. Grew up in New York City and I
coached in high school JV.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I came up the ranks, and then you know, when
that happens, it's a jolt because this is what you
want to do, and now you don't even know if.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
You're gonna be able to keep doing it.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
And it's not like, you know, if you're an accountant
and you get let go of an accountant, you'll probably
find another accountant job. Unless you were scaling or something,
you'll find another account job. This business is very small
and you know, I mean, unfortunately, college coaches don't get
recycled the way they do in the NBA. So you know,
I had to kind of remake myself, you know, by
(28:52):
getting into TV, and it's worked out unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
CBS has been great to meet.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
And the other thing about it, Dan, is you know
public it's embarrassing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
You know, it's in the something happens to you like
that's in the newspapers. It's you know, everybody knows. Everybody
knows it.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
It's not like, you know, again you work in an
accounting firm or whatever, and so something that you can
not say anything to anybody, nobody will know. Everybody knows.
And let's face it, and I don't think so. I
think I got cut short at U Mass big time.
I think we were.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
On the on the right road.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
But you know what happens is, you know, that's my story,
the story on the outside is this guy wasn't good
enough and that sucks.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
What do you see with Cooper Flag If I said, uh,
maybe question marks with him of what he's going to
take to the NBA about his game?
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Question marks? Boy, it's really hard to find him. You know,
you wonder because he's so skilled. You know, we're talking
about a guy who leads his team in every category.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
So I mean, here's a six nine, six ten kid
who you know, not only shoots, rebounds, his steals, loots
me he does it all. Now, college basketball is different
today than it was, you know, twenty years ago.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
There's no doubt about it. But you know, I would say,
how's he going to hold up physically? If I had
to pick something, that's probably where I would go, is
how's he going to hold up physically?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't know if you had conversations or you've talked
to coaches who've had these conversations when a kid thinks
he's ready. I remember talking to Jim Beayheim about this,
and he had a player who wanted to go and
he said, don't go. And the player went and didn't succeed,
But he said, you know, I'm assessing your talent. Do
(30:40):
I want you to go. If you're ready to go, yes,
But I think the player may have thought that Jim
was being selfish by saying, no, you're not ready to go.
But it turns out, you know, the kid wasn't ready
to go. It's a tough conversation to have, I would think,
because it's a kid. And then you have parents who
are involved in this. So do you have any background
(31:00):
stories on that?
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Yeah, I mean I had I had two kids. I had,
you know, Tim Thomas and Kerry Kittles. And and Tim
was one of the first guys to leave after year.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
He left in nineteen ninety seven. He stayed one year.
He left, and I didn't think he was ready. And
I and I'll tell you what I told him.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
I said, Tim, here's the thing I think you need
because that team that he was on his freshman year,
we had three seniors who were really good players, who
had been there for four years and won a lot
of games. And so he was obviously a big part
of the scouting report, but he was a deep part
of the scouting report.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
And I said, I.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Think you need a year where this thing is going
to focus on you. You are the We had these
other three Singiers that were all good players, So it
was hard for you to just get all of the
attention in the scouting report or whatever. I said, I
think you need a year of being the man here.
It's on you. You got to get this done for
us to win. It's not like last year. We can
(31:57):
go into the background and we could still win. Here
about you. Now, The difference for Tim was his mom
was older. She was cleaning houses, you know, you know,
so you know, from a financial standpoint, he had to go.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
He wasn't ready from a basketball stand but he had
a good career. Don't get me long. He made a
lot of money.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
I don't know if Tim ever really became I thought
he could be an NBA All Star.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
He wasn't.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
He was a really good player, and I'm not saying
that's why he wasn't. But you know, it's funny, Dan,
he came back to me like two years later as
the boy coach. I wish I would have stayed because
not so much for the not so much for the
basketball even, but just to be a college kid for
another year.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
It's not the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
All right, give me the team that could make it
to the final four where we'll look back and say,
I'll be damn. Steve Lapis knew what he was talking about.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Maryland. You know, Maryland is a team and it's kind
of under the rate.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
I mean, I could easily give you, you know, Houston,
Auburn Duke. But a team that you got to keep
your eye on is Maryland. Maryland's starting time is as
good as any starting five in the country.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
They have no bench, So now could that get them
in the end.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Yeah, they get into some foul trouble whatever, and you
know this thing this tournament, one game, you're.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Out, but you take you keep an eye on Maryland
in terms of what they do.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Now you watch the loose today because you know what,
in my house, we used to have a pool every year, me,
my wife, and my two kids.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
I was last every year of the four of us.
So that tells you where this thing is at.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I like Maryland, but I don't like what's going on
with the coach and the athletic director there. It feels
like both are out the door. And now you're gonna
face Grand Cannon And I know you're ten and a
half point favorites, but I just if you're not focused man,
it just it'll bite you right in the ass. That
that would be my big concern with Maryland.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Well, you know that that was.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
My concern about McNee yesterday and I said it.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
They couldn't have played any better. So you know you're right.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
And I said the same thing yesterday. I'm not saying
it again because they.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Keep the passion, keep the enthusiasm. And thanks for joining us, Steve.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Hey, thanks for having me, Dave. It's an honor to
be on with you.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Thank you, Thank you, Bud. Steve Lapis, CBS Sports College
Basketball Analyst. Yeah, I was there when Villanova won the
title there for the parade when he was there with
Roley Massimino. I think that's first time I met him
in the mid eighties. We'll take a break last call
for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store for Monday.
Dylan gets a pie to the face coming up, and
(34:32):
also it's a meat Friday as well. We'll have all
of that coming up next here, Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Wrapping up the show here, on a meat Friday, Chinese
food looked really good. General sALS chicken beef and broncoli
pork fried rice beef. Low made save some for the
other guys, Fritzy.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
I'm just saying, I got a.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Mound of food out there.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
You know what you need load management? I think, Wow,
it's true when it comes when it comes to Chinese food,
you need a little load management here all right? Final
results of the Pole Question Seaton.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
YEP final results. We got a couple of them up there.
I root for dot dot dot Upsets all the Time
top teams to make the Final four or my bracket
right now. Upsets all the Time has forty eight percent
of the vote, followed by bracket nobody roots for the
top teams.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Maryland gets almost eighty five percent of its points from
its starters. That's most of any team in the tournament.
And uh, you know, you start to think about being
so top heavy and not having any depth, And it
feels like when you're playing that many games and a
you know, kind of a truncated amount of time, you're
(36:01):
gonna need somebody or somebody's off the bench to help you.
But the starting five is a wonderful starting five, just
feels like they're gonna need a little more depth. And
then they're facing Grand Canyon and Grand Canyon is you know,
that's a good program, been a good program for a while.
Ten and a half point underdogs here. Jay Billis will
(36:22):
join us on the program on Monday. This day in
sports History, Paulie's not here. I'll do the honors. UCLA
beat Duke in nineteen sixty four, they went thirty and oh.
Their first championship. Nineteen seventy, UCLA beat Jacksonville. That was
UCLA's fourth consecutive championship. That's when you had artists Gilmour
(36:45):
and Pembrooke Burrows. The third they had another then another player,
Von Weddeking. He was in Rex Morgan, Rex Morgan, so
they had some names. Joe Williams I believe was the
head coach oft Actionville back then. But that's when Sidney Wicks.
Sidney Wicks was not afraid of artist Gilmore and he
(37:07):
took it to him. Nineteen eighty for do you remember
when the NFL owners passed the anti celebration rule? Did
this have to do with the fun bunch in Washington
with those wide receivers with Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders, Art Monk.
I don't know if they were the reason that they
(37:27):
decided that no celebrating is what is sports. I mean,
sports is about celebrating, isn't it. I mean it has
it gotten out of hand, absolutely, but like true celebration
I got missed. That just feels like maybe it was
the Fun Bunch who they took the fun out of
the Fun Bunch. Yes, Dylan, Well, you get the act
(37:50):
like you've been there before, a crowd kind of reiining
on the parade, I think, yeah, yeah, I never bought
into that. Nineteen ninety one, I remember on the highlight
on Sports Center, the Quebec Nordeck's goaltender Ron Tugnut set
a modern NHL record most saves in a regular season game.
He saved seventy out of seventy three shots. I remember
(38:14):
saying that he saw more rubber than a tire salesman.
That night. They ended up with a tie with the
Bruins Ron tug Nut between him and Dick Trickle. I
had fun doing Sports Center highlights, yes, Seaton. Somebody asked
on social.
Speaker 12 (38:29):
Media yesterday at what point, like what is the threshold
for an upset, especially in the tournament. Yes, if a
nine beats and eight, it's an upset. Oh kinda right,
But where do you truly get the like shock the
world kind of upset? Was there a number designation that
feels more upsety thirteen four that has replaced the twelve five? Yeah,
(38:54):
thirteen four has yes, Hunt.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, there's been so many twelves beating fives.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
I think Adam Lefkos had like thirty four over the
last forty years.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
At least one twelve beat to five, So you're probably
start with thirteen.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
And an eleven beating at six is a hell of
an upset, right.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I was gonna say that's the I think that's the
upset benchmark, seven to ten.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
It's kind of once you get seven, ten, nine to eight, then.
Speaker 12 (39:14):
A little too close.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, six eleven though.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Six eleven is good.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's a jit. Mike and Wisconsin Mike, thanks for holding
what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Hey, Dan reaching out.
Speaker 11 (39:26):
I know this topic is important to you and you
can influence change.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
You got a lot of pull.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
So I'm watching the tournament games and I can't tell
you how many times I yelled at the TV travel
Carrie Travel, Gary, it's got out of control, Dan.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Mike, I've tried. I talked to the NBA commissioner about this.
I mean, it's it's so obvious, man, I just go,
how can you not get your shot? How can you
not get around somebody? If I get to carry the
ball the way they do, they're dribbling. Oh, Baker and Bozeman, Hi,
(40:01):
Baker and Bozeman, How can I help you?
Speaker 11 (40:04):
Day? Happy Friday, Listen. I just wanted to quickly. I
know we're about out of time, but I wanted to
really jock the backroom guys, and specifically I know he's
not a backroom guy anymore, but Marvin hosted last Friday's
twelve fifteen podcasts and he was awesome. He was a
natural facilitator, he was a brilliant and I wanted to
And by the way, the professor of the Parlay Dylan
(40:26):
can substantiate this because he was sitting next to him
in that podcast. And so anyway, I wanted to just
give kudos to Marvin for being a fantastic host of
last Friday's full fifteen podcast and hopefully all.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Right, all right, all right, thank you Baker. Twelve fifteen podcasts.
The backroom guys get the dish on everything that'll be
coming up at danpatrick dot com. Todd, what did I
learn on today's award nominated program.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
When coach k visited Seawebs Home for a recruiting visit.
The neighborhood chanted one O three seventy three.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Which was the final score of the nineteen ninety national
title game when Duke got crushed by the running ReBs
of UNLV.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That's a great story, Dylan, thank you for filling in
for Paulie Todd, the King of comedy Seat and Marv
yours truly have a great weekend. Everybody,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Radioh we made it to a Friday. We made it
to the final hour of a Friday. It's a meat Friday.
It's a different meat Friday. Maybe it's catered towards one
Dan end General Sal's chicken beef and Broncoli pork fried
rice beef lo Maine. Who has it better than we do?
No mody body, Yeah, Fritzy all of a sudden going
(00:27):
out to check on the food, and all of a
sudden he's trying to I see you, Todd. There's cameras everywhere. Okay,
so when you go out there and you try to
take a little sample there, I'm watching.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Like yesterday when I took a Deli sandwich, ina and
a bagel and a half while I thought everybody was
kind of busy doing work during a break, hoping no
one saw that with cream chies and butter all over
my cheek.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, there's cameras all Oh, there's thirteen cameras in here.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
There's a bunch of cookies back there too, and I
might have did it there.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You can have the cookies. You're fine with that. By
the way, you can follow along with our bracket challenge
at Fox Sports Radio dot Com. Stat of the Day
brought to you by Panini America Official trading cards of
The Dan Patrick Show. Went to dinner last night. All
of a sudden, I get an email, and then a
follow up email, and then there's another email, and I'm going,
(01:18):
this is from Todd. Why didn't go into the email?
I just thought, Okay, maybe this is to do with
today's show. Since Paulie's not here, Fritzi is taking over
the executive producer role. And then I go in and
I see the correspondence with the actress Jennifer Lawrence's agent
or representative publish in the back yeah, and the back
(01:39):
and forth, we find out that they are big fans
of the show. Fritzi tried to reach out to Jennifer
Lawrence see if she wanted to be part of the
Bracket challenge, and they were very nice with their correspondence.
So now, Todd, you maybe next year we get Jennifer
Lawrence and she's from Kentucky. She grew up with basketball,
so maybe she fills out a bracket with her husband.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I did go through the stop sign a little bit,
just to truth be told.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
After she said that note saying you know that there
was some I guess whatever the family situation was, And
I got a note saying.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That, dear lords, he's on leave, but maybe down the road.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Glad you're a fan, like you know, kind of like
pump the brakes. It could be several months before we
could even you know, consider reaching her to us if.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
She'd did they really see your lord?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, hot, yes, lord.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes, that's not a good that's not a good response,
by the way, but Todd listed all of her movies.
He said, you know, we're big fans, and then there's
like seven or eight movies that he's listed as if
her publicist needs to be reminded of what her resume is. Well.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But between two Ferns with Zach Galapanakis, I gave the
whole script to her just to let her know that
we thought that was funny about your off putting.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You should be off putting because you're fat. Thought that
was really funny.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot
com Twitter handle, the TP show the Pirates Rookie of
the Year. Paul's schemes will join us the Big ten
four to oh in the tournament. Thus far, Big East
three and oh sec four and three, and then you
have the ACC one in two Mountain West oh and two.
There is a little bit of conversation about the Big
(03:10):
East and the ACC combining talents here, which you know,
you're seeing this with what happened with some of the
schools in the Big twelve. Saw this with the PAC twelve.
You're you kind of not divide in conquer, you want
to add in conquer. And maybe the ACC trying to
(03:31):
figure this out. Uh, don't think they got to handle
on it yet, but maybe bringing in the Big East
with the ACC and maybe you have something there. But
a lot of tournament action last night. Kentucky was the
pre season number one team. They lost in the round
to sixty four. And now Kansas, I should say, preseason
(03:53):
number one and then they lose. They haven't been as
formidable as we've expected Kansas to be since twenty seventeen.
And with Bill self, how much longer is he going
to do it? But they got humbled, they got beat
by Arkansas, and of course you can't spell Arkansas without Kansas.
How about that? Marvin yeah loop now yeah, oh I
(04:16):
get a blue wow? Yeah? Oh, Todd, you should have
thought of that. That's that's worthy of a book. But Kansas, Wow,
don't make me come crowd hit you. Yeah, all right,
so uh acc one and two the Mountain West, oh
Win too. We'll talk to Steve Lapis, one of the
(04:38):
analysts for CBS. He does a great job, and it
feels like every year when I listen to him, I say,
we should get Steve Lapis on. And then yesterday I
said to Fritzy, I'm remembering it now in real time.
Let's get Steve Lapis on. He has passion and uh
so he had Saint John's winning and he had the
Arkansas game as well. So Steve Lapis will join us
(05:00):
coming up Paul Schemes. He is one of three MLB
The show twenty five cover athletes. This is the twentieth
anniversary honoring two decades of baseball history. Elie de la
Cruz and Gunner Henderson are on the cover as well.
The Pirates Rookie of the Year joining us on the program.
What did you learn from your rookie year or what
(05:23):
do you wish that you had known in your rookie
year or when you were in the college minor leagues
coming up to the pirates.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
I mean, the biggest thing I learned from getting to
the big leagues is that the game is a lot
more similar than I thought in terms of the actual
the baseball, you know play. Everything that's added on makes
it a lot harder. So traveling cross country we had
a couple of cross country flights last year. Our travel
(05:53):
within the division's pretty good, you know, our hour long
or less than an hour long flights for the most
part within our division. But still, I mean, you got
the media in the in the locker room every day.
The food is different. It's it's better, but there's more
of it, so it's easy to you know, overindulge. Just
(06:14):
a lot of a lot of little stuff like that
that makes it, uh just makes it makes it different
and probably makes it a little bit harder.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
What's the strangest thing you've thought of while you were
on the mound?
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Man, probably like doing math problems or something like that.
I don't know if you've ever seen I think it
was Major League or Major League two. The catcher is is,
you know, learning to get over the yips, and he
like memorizes a playboard magazine or something like that, And
I do that with math problems rather than you know,
(06:53):
playboard magazines.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
But how does that help you?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
I mean, because it's it's very so it's very easy
to like focus too hard and try to execute a pitch,
you know, and then you just completely sail it or
like pull a slider or sail a heat or something
like that. So like having your mind not you know,
solely focused on on that pitch. It like a little
(07:21):
bit of distraction is sometimes a good thing.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Give me the guy that you keep an eye on
in the on deck circle that you know he's coming
to the plate.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
It's probably one per team. Usually it's like the three
hitter or something like that. Maybe it's to a team,
it's because we kind of like bucket hitters a little
bit to where we can pitch them similarly to get
them out. But there's always like one guy in the
lineup that's like, hey, this guy doesn't beat us. So
(07:55):
I mean it's the one Soto's the day, Ellie Daily, Cruz,
Cody Andrew, those types of guys.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I mean, you know they're coming out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
What do you do when you disagree with your catcher?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Just shake?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I'll wear a pitch com too, and and I'll punch it.
In sometimes, but yeah, just shake there. There are no
hard feelings there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But you have final say yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I mean if I my experience is generally, if I
throw a pitch that I don't wholly believe in, uh,
it doesn't end well. So I have to, you know,
throw pitches that I believe in out there with you know,
full conviction, and that it generally ends ends pretty well.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But when you give up a big hit or a
home run in college, it's one thing. But when you
have thousands and thousands of people and you know it's
going to end up on Sports Center, Like, how do
you process that differently? If you can then when you
were in college and you gave up a home run?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, honestly. And I think this is probably more of
a change for me.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
But I think I took it, like, took it harder,
took it, took it more personally when I was in
college than I do now. And I think there are
probably a couple of reasons for that. I've I think
I've matured grown up a little bit. But also, uh,
we get to do it more often now in college.
It's like, you know, the SEC is the biggest thing
(09:20):
in the world and nothing else matters like, that's that's
the that's what they feed you, right. So when I
give up a home run at Ole Miss and the
beer's flying everywhere, like it feels like the end of
the world a little bit more than it does now.
When I give up a home run and you know,
Dodger Stadium or something like that, it's just and I
think I think part of that's because it's it's so
routine now, but I think a lot of it's because
(09:41):
I've just like grown up to.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Talking to Paul's schemes and he's one of three MLB
The show twenty five cover athletes, You've got Gunner Henderson
and Ellie Dela Cruz tell us about the honor. How'd
you find out?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Yeah, I can't remember exactly when I found out. There's
something that I think, you know, we were in the
talks for for I don't know, probably the last summer,
last September around there kind of blends together when we're
in season. But it was cool when I, you know,
found out that it's, you know, no kidding happening. I mean,
(10:24):
definitely some satisfaction there is. It's it's pretty cool. I've
you know, grown up seeing you know, the cover athletes
of the show and and seeing the game. It's been
a huge part of a lot of people's childhood.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
I think.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
As like the game that they want to play when
they when they get to play video games. So gamer
of I'm not. I'm not really a gamer at all.
So yeah, So the only time I would play the
show because I never had a PlayStation or Xbox or anything. Uh,
And the only time I would play the show is
when I like went to you know, my buddy's house
(11:01):
or something like that and they had it. But I've
always been terrible at it. And if I'm the kind
of person like, if I'm not good at something, I
just won't I'll just stop doing it. Yeah, I'm the
I'm gonna take my ball and go home type of guy.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
How territorial are you when it comes to the SEC,
whether it's football fourteen schools are in the NCAA tournament
the baseball with the SEC? Are you annoying to be
around when it's conversations about the SEC?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Now, because I'm a I'm a baseball guy first, football,
I could kind of care less about I mean, I'm
a true believer that because I'm an SEC guy. But
I'm a Mountain West guy too, and I'm a true
believer that the Mountain West just breeds winners. So I'm
probably more territory about the Mountain West because it's not
a you know, people don't people don't know about the
(11:52):
Mountain West. But that's where that's where champions are made.
I believe that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Okay, But you're in Pittsburgh. They love their football there.
Do you go to gat you care about? Do you
go to games?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
But I mean because I look at college baseball and
call and uh and pro baseball is two different sports.
I I I never played football. I don't understand what's
going on out there. I know that you're supposed to
move the ball down the field, but I viewed college
football and pro football is two different sports too. So
I've gone to a Steelers game. It was it was
(12:27):
really cool. I want to go back. I'm a Steelers fan,
you know now bleed black and gold.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
So but yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
They're fun to. The games are fun to go to.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Are you gonna be okay with the automatic strike zone?
Speaker 7 (12:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Hey, it's not in there this year, So I'm I'm
happy with that. I haven't I haven't challenged anything this spring.
It's not going to be in there this year. When
it comes it comes. I I like the human aspect
of the game because I think that, you know, there
are games where the umpire zone is big and there
are games where the umpire zone as small. Obviously catchers,
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you bring in the automatic strike zone, then it completely
devalues framing, which you know, effectively eliminates the catching position.
So I have mixed feelings towards it. I do like
the human aspect of the game, but there's definitely something
to be said about, you know, being objective with the
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strike zone.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, but when you're at the plate and all of
a sudden there's a you know, a star pitcher and
he gets a call, you're okay with that and it's
not a strike, but because of who he is, Justin
Berlander is going to get that call.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Yeah. I mean, I prefer it that way. I don't
have to hit anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Do you want to hit?
Speaker 8 (13:53):
No?
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Maybe BP occasionally, but I don't want to face Justin Berlander.
I don't want to face anything other guys. They're too
they're too uh, they're too good.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
If you were building the perfect picture, so you gave
me fastball, slider, curveball, change up. Who's using your fastball?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, I'd like to think all four of those are,
you know, mine, but uh, let's just not the taste.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
But you think that way.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Yeah, I mean because you can't use my fastball with
like because I would say, like my fastball and Clayton
Kershaw's curveball or something like that, but like we're the
exact opposite pitchers. Basically, I'd like to thank my fastball
Kershaw's curveball for sure, just to straight up and down curveball,
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change up, Scooball those are two lefties. Slider man, there's
so many good ones. I think a nice like for
for me, like a downer, a downer slider, like a
(15:12):
de Gram, like a shorter downer slider, because that's something
I don't have.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
But there's I mean, strider's slider.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
There are so many, so many ways, so many different
ways to have a good slider, though so specifically a slider.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's amazing that these guys can hit this stuff. I mean,
they talked about hitting a baseball is the hardest thing
to do, and they're guys that are hitting one hundred
miles an hour. And it's like, so what.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Yeah, I don't I don't know how they do it.
I'll let them do it. That's why I'm not going
to try to try to get back in the box.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
UH.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Congratulations Opening Day, Congratulations on MLB the show that's the
UH cover with Elie Dela Cruz, Gunner Henderson and UH
this is on a the twentieth anniversary of that. Great
to talk to you again, Paul, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, no, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Paul skeins pirate Rookie of the Year last year, and
I think he's working on a couple of new pitches
that ought to please the rest of the hitters in baseball.
We'll take a break, we'll talk about your brackets. Coming
up Steve Lapis, he's an analyst for March Madness and
he'll join us here. Coming up next Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
It was on this date in nineteen fifty nine that
California beat West Virginia for the NCAA Championship. Jerry West
played for West Virginia. He didn't win the title, but
he was still named the most outstanding player. Jerry was
also I think the MVP of an NBA Finals when
the Lakers played the Celtics. I'm sure that Jerry West
(17:58):
doesn't like that distinction. Rest in peace, but imagine you're
so good, you did everything you could possibly do, you
just didn't win. So I think nineteen sixty nine he
was the MVP of the NBA Finals and they lost
that championship. Steve Lapis joining us on loan from CBS
Sports studio analysts and college basketball analyst, former college hoo
(18:22):
coach at Manhattan, Villanova, and UMass. You've done a great
job and I've been meaning to reach out to you
the last couple of years. Every time I hear you
in the tournament and I always go, we should get
Steve Lapis on. I love the energy that you have.
It's great to see you again, coach. How you doing.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
It's you, Dan, It's been a long time.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I think I go back to when was the first
time I met you?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Villanova, probably Villanova, maybe even Villanova's an assistant coach as
I was from eighty five to eighty eight, so probably
back then.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So you came up with the game planned to beat
Georgetown in the MC finals.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
You know what, that was my first year Dan as
an assistant coach.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
I came from high school the year before, and people
asked me about that all the time. I said, boy,
what did you do? I said, well, I was getting
the coffee, the sneakers.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
I was doing all those things in my first year.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And I always maintain when people talk about that as
one of the great upsets of all time, and I said,
I don't think it is. I think NC State beating
Houston was a bigger upset. Villanova. You had played Georgetown,
and I think he lost by six or eight points.
So you knew what you you know, you knew the battle,
you knew the Big East, you knew Georgetown, and therefore
(19:37):
I don't view it as that big of an upset,
even though you guys had to play pretty much the
perfect game. How do you view it, Dan?
Speaker 7 (19:44):
I tell people that all the time. I know, you know, it's.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Great for us that we were part of his greatest
upset ever, but you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
We played them.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Twice that year, lost by four, lost by six. The
year before that, when I wasn't there, they beat Town Villanova.
Eddie picked me as a software had twenty two points
and twenty rebounds against Patrick Ewing in a game that
was an epic So we knew we did.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
We didn't feel it like getting ready for the game.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
I mean, we knew we had to play well. There's
no question that was an unbelievable team. And let's understand this.
We shot seventy nine percent. We won by two, so
you know what I mean. That tells you how good
they were. But I can't agree with you more. You know,
when you play somebody twice a year, we had seen
Patrick Ewing nine times before that.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
They would have intimidated anybody else they played.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
And I'll be honest with you, we were happy we
weren't playing Saint John's. It was a worst matchup for
us because we were a matchup zone team and Chris
Mullen was obviously one of the best shooters in the world.
Georgetown wasn't a good shooting team. We liked that matchup
better than Saint John's.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You know, you start to look at the all time
greats in college basketball. I don't know if Christian Latner
is the last of the all time greats because they're
not staying three or four years. It's usually if you're
really good. I mean, Cooper Flag could be one of
the great players of all time, but he's just going
to be a footnote of a one and done at
Duke and maybe they win a national title.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
You know, there's no doubt this is a new age.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
You know, we're not going to see the Bill Waltons
and the Leuel Senders, and you know, the even you know,
Christian Laytoner who was a good pro but wasn't like
obviously Bill Walton or Louel Sender, yeah, or even Pat
Patrick Ewing was one of the greatest college players that
ever was. So you know, it's just a different age now.
And even now it's even gotten crazier with this nil
(21:37):
and transfer portal. Even schools themselves forget about the general public.
It's hard for schools themselves to honor guys that are
only their school for one year and then they're gone.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I wondered about this. I brought it up with Dan Dakich,
and I said, Indiana never reached out to Steve Alferd
to coach there because you know, Clyde Drexler was Houston,
Mullen was at Saint John's, Patrick Ewing at Georgetown. You
can't hire somebody unless you know you can fire them.
And I'm just I was always curious why Steve Alford
(22:11):
never got the opportunity to coach Indiana.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
You know, that's that's a great point, because here's a
guy who's won seven hundred games in his career. He's
been a tremendous coach his whole life from a young age.
He obviously was one of the greatest players in the
history of the school, you know, win the championship in
eighty seven, and yeah, it's just a surprising thing.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
What now.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I think probably part of it has to do with
the fact that they did coach at Iowa. That may
you know, he's got that job when he was younger,
and maybe that hurt him a little bit that he
coached another Big ten school. But he's a tremendous coach
and you know, would have been a great one at
at Indiana, no question.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
All right, you called games in Providence, so you had
Arkansas over Kansas, you had Saint John's over Omaha, and
that sets up Bettino Cali Perry. Where did that relationship
goes sideways between those two.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
You know, I think it went sideways like a long
time ago, to be honest, I think it's actually a
little better now, you know. I think part of it
was when John Caliberry got the UMass job. Rick Patino's
a UMass graduate and he had some input into you know,
who was going to coach at the school, and it
started got out that Rick Pattino was not in Caliberry's
(23:25):
corner for Caliberry to get the job, he wanted somebody
else to get So I think that's kind of where
it starting.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
And we all knew each other.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
We all met each other at the five Star basketball
camp back in nineteen eighty, so, you know, he go,
we go back a long way, and those two guys
go back a long way, and I think that's where
and then the rivalry just grew because you know, John,
they're both big personalities, as we know, and they both
you know, feel like they're great basketball coaches, which they are,
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and you know, I think the rivalry just grew from there.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
But I think it started with the UMass job.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
And I forget who we had on, but they said
Jim Beheim, and Beheim said, you can put Patino there.
With Mike Skryzchewsky like he's he's on that level. Nobody's
where Wooden is, you know, for obvious reasons, but he said,
as far as modern day basketball coaches, greatest of all time,
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he would put Patino right there with coach K.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
What about you, absolutely, Dan, no question. I mean, think
about it.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Besides the fact he's got the eight hundred and seventy
five whatever wins, think about all the years he spent
in the NBA, so he would have a lot.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
More wins in college. He's got two titles. You know.
I always tell people me personally, like people ask me all.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
The time, if you had the one game you got
to win one game, who would you want to coach?
I said, there's two people, Bob Knight and Rick Patino
if I gotta win one game.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well that's how I praised there.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
He was not each k you know here, Coach K
was a great coach.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
I look at those guys different. See, Coach K he
was maybe the greatest leader of all time. That was
his things leadership. Not that he wasn't next to no
guy Knight and uh Beatino. Those guys were tinkerers. They
were excell No, not that I'm not in. Please, I
don't want anybody to take this like, oh, what are
(25:24):
you talking about?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Mike.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Mike chefs all time, the best, one of the best.
But those two guys were like they would tinker for
game plans. Mike Schesky's philosophy was, this is what we
do and we will do it better than what you do,
and we're gonna win.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
These guys they would change things. They would change this guy.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
And report they tweaked this, tweak that, And that's why,
I mean, one game, those guys will game plan to
make it hard.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
For you to win.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Steve lappis CBS Sports college basketball analyst. He has McNeese
State and Purdue and Arkansas and Saint John Waite. Are
you working in? Are you the early game here?
Speaker 9 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No, tomorrow, My game is, oh tomorrow. I was gonna say,
oh yeah, okay. I was like, boy, I'm uh holding
you back here?
Speaker 7 (26:09):
No, no, no, I had before yesterday.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Okay. Do you have any problem with Will Wade coaching
in the tournament knowing that he's going to take another job.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean, let's face it, it's it's not a
great situation, you know, for the kids, school or anybody.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
I will say this about will Wade, though he was
very honest. I was shocked.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
You know, you know how it is, Dane. You've been
doing this role so long. People say, well, you.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Know, I don't want to talk about that now or whatever.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
He was very open, he said, we asked him, he
said at the practice day before.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
He said, Yeah, I'm talking to NC State.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
He says, but I told my players that, and my
players I'm going to help them get to the next level.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
If guys want to transfer. We talk very openly about this.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
So I don't like it, but I give the guy
credit that he hasn't hidden from it. They were honest,
they didn't lie, and you know, you gotta there's something
to be said for that too.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, I'm okay with the transparency. I just find it
a little weird that he's helping the university, but he
might hurt the university because maybe he takes some of
these players with him de n C State, maybe part
of the coaching staff as well. So, yes, you're helping,
but then he could be hurting here in a week
or two.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
There's no definite, there's no there's no doubt that if
we were gonna put a scale which which way is
worse than the other.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
There's no doubt that the fact that this came out
and that he's going, he's worse for the school and
everybody involved.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
The only thing I'm saying is it's a bad situation
and he didn't lie about it.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
That's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
What's it like to get fired?
Speaker 7 (27:44):
You know, it's uh, it's it's it's it's a it's
it's an interesting question. Obviously it stings, as we know.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
But the thing that that gets you more than anything
else is that, uh, you spend your whole life doing
this thing that you think you're pretty good at, and
it's kind of been your dream, and then all of
a sudden you know it could be over, and so
you spend all your life from when you're a kid.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
You know, I know, for me, from when I was
a kid, it's all I wanted to do was coach.
Coach coach. Grew up in New York City and I
coached in high school JV.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I came up the ranks, and then you know, when
that happens, it's a jolt because this is what you
want to do, and now you don't even know if.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
You're gonna be able to keep doing it.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
And it's not like, you know, if you're an accountant
and you get let go of an accountant, you'll probably
find another accountant job. Unless you were scaling or something,
you'll find another account job. This business is very small
and you know, I mean, unfortunately, college coaches don't get
recycled the way they do in the NBA. So you know,
I had to kind of remake myself, you know, by
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getting into TV, and it's worked out unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
CBS has been great to meet.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
And the other thing about it, Dan, is you know
public it's embarrassing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
You know, it's in the something happens to you like
that's in the newspapers. It's you know, everybody knows. Everybody
knows it.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
It's not like, you know, again you work in an
accounting firm or whatever, and so something that you can
not say anything to anybody, nobody will know. Everybody knows.
And let's face it, and I don't think so. I
think I got cut short at U Mass big time.
I think we were.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
On the on the right road.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
But you know what happens is, you know, that's my story,
the story on the outside is this guy wasn't good
enough and that sucks.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
What do you see with Cooper Flag If I said, uh,
maybe question marks with him of what he's going to
take to the NBA about his game?
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Question marks? Boy, it's really hard to find him. You know,
you wonder because he's so skilled. You know, we're talking
about a guy who leads his team in every category.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
So I mean, here's a six nine, six ten kid
who you know, not only shoots, rebounds, his steals, loots
me he does it all. Now, college basketball is different
today than it was, you know, twenty years ago.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
There's no doubt about it. But you know, I would say,
how's he going to hold up physically? If I had
to pick something, that's probably where I would go, is
how's he going to hold up physically?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't know if you had conversations or you've talked
to coaches who've had these conversations when a kid thinks
he's ready. I remember talking to Jim Beayheim about this,
and he had a player who wanted to go and
he said, don't go. And the player went and didn't succeed,
But he said, you know, I'm assessing your talent. Do
(30:40):
I want you to go. If you're ready to go, yes,
But I think the player may have thought that Jim
was being selfish by saying, no, you're not ready to go.
But it turns out, you know, the kid wasn't ready
to go. It's a tough conversation to have, I would think,
because it's a kid. And then you have parents who
are involved in this. So do you have any background
(31:00):
stories on that?
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Yeah, I mean I had I had two kids. I had,
you know, Tim Thomas and Kerry Kittles. And and Tim
was one of the first guys to leave after year.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
He left in nineteen ninety seven. He stayed one year.
He left, and I didn't think he was ready. And
I and I'll tell you what I told him.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
I said, Tim, here's the thing I think you need
because that team that he was on his freshman year,
we had three seniors who were really good players, who
had been there for four years and won a lot
of games. And so he was obviously a big part
of the scouting report, but he was a deep part
of the scouting report.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
And I said, I.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Think you need a year where this thing is going
to focus on you. You are the We had these
other three Singiers that were all good players, So it
was hard for you to just get all of the
attention in the scouting report or whatever. I said, I
think you need a year of being the man here.
It's on you. You got to get this done for
us to win. It's not like last year. We can
(31:57):
go into the background and we could still win. Here
about you. Now, The difference for Tim was his mom
was older. She was cleaning houses, you know, you know,
so you know, from a financial standpoint, he had to go.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
He wasn't ready from a basketball stand but he had
a good career. Don't get me long. He made a
lot of money.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
I don't know if Tim ever really became I thought
he could be an NBA All Star.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
He wasn't.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
He was a really good player, and I'm not saying
that's why he wasn't. But you know, it's funny, Dan,
he came back to me like two years later as
the boy coach. I wish I would have stayed because
not so much for the not so much for the
basketball even, but just to be a college kid for
another year.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
It's not the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
All right, give me the team that could make it
to the final four where we'll look back and say,
I'll be damn. Steve Lapis knew what he was talking about.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Maryland. You know, Maryland is a team and it's kind
of under the rate.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
I mean, I could easily give you, you know, Houston,
Auburn Duke. But a team that you got to keep
your eye on is Maryland. Maryland's starting time is as
good as any starting five in the country.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
They have no bench, So now could that get them
in the end.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Yeah, they get into some foul trouble whatever, and you
know this thing this tournament, one game, you're.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Out, but you take you keep an eye on Maryland
in terms of what they do.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Now you watch the loose today because you know what,
in my house, we used to have a pool every year, me,
my wife, and my two kids.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
I was last every year of the four of us.
So that tells you where this thing is at.
Speaker 11 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I like Maryland, but I don't like what's going on
with the coach and the athletic director there. It feels
like both are out the door. And now you're gonna
face Grand Cannon And I know you're ten and a
half point favorites, but I just if you're not focused man,
it just it'll bite you right in the ass. That
that would be my big concern with Maryland.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Well, you know that that was.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
My concern about McNee yesterday and I said it.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
They couldn't have played any better. So you know you're right.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
And I said the same thing yesterday. I'm not saying
it again because they.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Keep the passion, keep the enthusiasm. And thanks for joining us, Steve.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Hey, thanks for having me, Dave. It's an honor to
be on with you.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Thank you, Thank you, Bud. Steve Lapis, CBS Sports College
Basketball Analyst. Yeah, I was there when Villanova won the
title there for the parade when he was there with
Roley Massimino. I think that's first time I met him
in the mid eighties. We'll take a break last call
for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store for Monday.
Dylan gets a pie to the face coming up, and
(34:32):
also it's a meat Friday as well. We'll have all
of that coming up next here, Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Wrapping up the show here, on a meat Friday, Chinese
food looked really good. General sALS chicken beef and broncoli
pork fried rice beef. Low made save some for the
other guys, Fritzy.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
I'm just saying, I got a.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Mound of food out there.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
You know what you need load management? I think, Wow,
it's true when it comes when it comes to Chinese food,
you need a little load management here all right? Final
results of the Pole Question Seaton.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
YEP final results. We got a couple of them up there.
I root for dot dot dot Upsets all the Time
top teams to make the Final four or my bracket
right now. Upsets all the Time has forty eight percent
of the vote, followed by bracket nobody roots for the
top teams.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Maryland gets almost eighty five percent of its points from
its starters. That's most of any team in the tournament.
And uh, you know, you start to think about being
so top heavy and not having any depth, And it
feels like when you're playing that many games and a
you know, kind of a truncated amount of time, you're
(36:01):
gonna need somebody or somebody's off the bench to help you.
But the starting five is a wonderful starting five, just
feels like they're gonna need a little more depth. And
then they're facing Grand Canyon and Grand Canyon is you know,
that's a good program, been a good program for a while.
Ten and a half point underdogs here. Jay Billis will
(36:22):
join us on the program on Monday. This day in
sports History, Paulie's not here. I'll do the honors. UCLA
beat Duke in nineteen sixty four, they went thirty and oh.
Their first championship. Nineteen seventy, UCLA beat Jacksonville. That was
UCLA's fourth consecutive championship. That's when you had artists Gilmour
(36:45):
and Pembrooke Burrows. The third they had another then another player,
Von Weddeking. He was in Rex Morgan, Rex Morgan, so
they had some names. Joe Williams I believe was the
head coach oft Actionville back then. But that's when Sidney Wicks.
Sidney Wicks was not afraid of artist Gilmore and he
(37:07):
took it to him. Nineteen eighty for do you remember
when the NFL owners passed the anti celebration rule? Did
this have to do with the fun bunch in Washington
with those wide receivers with Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders, Art Monk.
I don't know if they were the reason that they
(37:27):
decided that no celebrating is what is sports. I mean,
sports is about celebrating, isn't it. I mean it has
it gotten out of hand, absolutely, but like true celebration
I got missed. That just feels like maybe it was
the Fun Bunch who they took the fun out of
the Fun Bunch. Yes, Dylan, Well, you get the act
(37:50):
like you've been there before, a crowd kind of reiining
on the parade, I think, yeah, yeah, I never bought
into that. Nineteen ninety one, I remember on the highlight
on Sports Center, the Quebec Nordeck's goaltender Ron Tugnut set
a modern NHL record most saves in a regular season game.
He saved seventy out of seventy three shots. I remember
(38:14):
saying that he saw more rubber than a tire salesman.
That night. They ended up with a tie with the
Bruins Ron tug Nut between him and Dick Trickle. I
had fun doing Sports Center highlights, yes, Seaton. Somebody asked
on social.
Speaker 12 (38:29):
Media yesterday at what point, like what is the threshold
for an upset, especially in the tournament. Yes, if a
nine beats and eight, it's an upset. Oh kinda right,
But where do you truly get the like shock the
world kind of upset? Was there a number designation that
feels more upsety thirteen four that has replaced the twelve five? Yeah,
(38:54):
thirteen four has yes, Hunt.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, there's been so many twelves beating fives.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
I think Adam Lefkos had like thirty four over the
last forty years.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
At least one twelve beat to five, So you're probably
start with thirteen.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
And an eleven beating at six is a hell of
an upset, right.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I was gonna say that's the I think that's the
upset benchmark, seven to ten.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
It's kind of once you get seven, ten, nine to eight, then.
Speaker 12 (39:14):
A little too close.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, six eleven though.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Six eleven is good.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's a jit. Mike and Wisconsin Mike, thanks for holding
what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Hey, Dan reaching out.
Speaker 11 (39:26):
I know this topic is important to you and you
can influence change.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
You got a lot of pull.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
So I'm watching the tournament games and I can't tell
you how many times I yelled at the TV travel
Carrie Travel, Gary, it's got out of control, Dan.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Mike, I've tried. I talked to the NBA commissioner about this.
I mean, it's it's so obvious, man, I just go,
how can you not get your shot? How can you
not get around somebody? If I get to carry the
ball the way they do, they're dribbling. Oh, Baker and Bozeman, Hi,
(40:01):
Baker and Bozeman, How can I help you?
Speaker 11 (40:04):
Day? Happy Friday, Listen. I just wanted to quickly. I
know we're about out of time, but I wanted to
really jock the backroom guys, and specifically I know he's
not a backroom guy anymore, but Marvin hosted last Friday's
twelve fifteen podcasts and he was awesome. He was a
natural facilitator, he was a brilliant and I wanted to
And by the way, the professor of the Parlay Dylan
(40:26):
can substantiate this because he was sitting next to him
in that podcast. And so anyway, I wanted to just
give kudos to Marvin for being a fantastic host of
last Friday's full fifteen podcast and hopefully all.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Right, all right, all right, thank you Baker. Twelve fifteen podcasts.
The backroom guys get the dish on everything that'll be
coming up at danpatrick dot com. Todd, what did I
learn on today's award nominated program.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
When coach k visited Seawebs Home for a recruiting visit.
The neighborhood chanted one O three seventy three.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Which was the final score of the nineteen ninety national
title game when Duke got crushed by the running ReBs
of UNLV.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That's a great story, Dylan, thank you for filling in
for Paulie Todd, the King of comedy Seat and Marv
yours truly have a great weekend. Everybody,
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
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