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September 21, 2023 45 mins

Dan talks about the length professional wrestlers will go to entertain the fans. And he talks to former NFL standout Chris Long about the latest story lines heading into week 3 of the season.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:46):
NFL's greatest players, play scandal screw ups, plus stuff we
totally made up, co written by myself and Joel Cohen,
who writes for The Simpsons. You might have this writer's
strike coming to an end today. At least that's the
word I'm getting. Really, it could happen as early as
today that maybe the writer's strike will be over.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
It can't happen earlier than that.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, it cannot. But I was like when somebody say
it could happen as early as today.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yes, Paually, some of those people and organizations that Lyning
crossed are going to have a rough couple of weeks
after that.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
It ends today, yep, So they're nearing an agreement. From
what I'm told sources close to me, the Writer's Guild
of America's strike and I guess they got together yesterday
last night and trying to make all of this happen.
More than eleven thousand went on strike beginning May second.
And I was talking to a TV exec last night
and he said, you're really going to feel this a

(01:43):
little while from here. I'm talking about the viewers because
of the content. What's going to be available for programming
in the spring. You know, the turnaround time is you know,
it takes a lot of time to be able to
write something then get it produced, find everybody do an
entire season, if it's for streaming or for movies like

(02:05):
Stranger Things, the final season that's been on hold. You know,
a variety of things have been on hold that they
were planning, you know for the fall.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, pulling This might be a dumb question.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Is the WWE Writers Guild is professional wrestling under the
writer's guild umbrella because it is scripted, and they do
have writers, writers who write storylines. They put writers who
write for them.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Checking, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
Strikes me as a non union type of place problem.
It doesn't seem like a union shop to me.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, we don't have any rules were the WWE, and
who says it's scripted.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I would still love to.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Be in one of those meetings when they're scripting everything,
and you know, and then what happens with Roman reigns, Okay,
this is what happens. And then you you do this,
do you have like, you know, diagrams or pictures were drawn?
You go and then in this sequence, and then this
sequence and then this sequence. Did you see the video

(03:05):
that went viral of one of the wrestlers was cutting
his forehead with a razor, So he was underneath a
table and somebody had their camera and they were watching
him stab himself in the forehead. And then he comes
out from underneath the bench and he's got all this
blood on. I think it's, you know, a big time wrestler,

(03:28):
but came out and had all this blood and I
remember being around haul Cogan. This is years ago in
the eighties, and you could see the scars on his
forehead because these guys would do this every stop that
they would go in. You know, you wanted to give
the appearance that this was real. I mean it's real blood.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Guys would bite on these blood pills, so you'd have
blood coming out of their mouth. But when they would
do the forehead and be like they're taking a razorblade,
and sometimes they would have it in their tape that
would be on their wrist, and then they would be
able to pull it out and then they would be
able to stab themselves in the forehead, all for the
sake of all those wrestling fans, Yes.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Mark, including me.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
I was like, yeah, he's bleeding. All right, it's real.
I told you it's real. Mark. You got all a's yeah,
to do well in school? No, so I go to
money in Iran.

Speaker 8 (04:19):
My mom said, take it. It's real to me.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
It's real to me, damn it. Uh can you can
you find that? Marvin?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And that was Terry Funk who just passed away at
that press conference there? Alrighty final hour eight seven seven
three d P show.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Do you have it there?

Speaker 7 (04:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
W W CEO Nick con said the other day that
the Writers Guild does not affect the strike does not
affect the w w OUR writers are not members of
the guild, so there's no effect on us whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
All right here we have support of them, all right,
here you go.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Next question, Jeff, where are you right there?

Speaker 7 (04:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (04:59):
I just want to thank each and everyone out for
all you've done to your body.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
It's still real to be damn it.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
I'll thank you. Thank you guys, You're awesome. Thank you
so much.

Speaker 10 (05:18):
Mister per sing what needed to be saying.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Thank you, Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I like when he says, take it easy, man, take
it easy, man.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Okay, dude, this is not real. Take it.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I just want to thank you, mister Funk. I love
that little guy.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I just want to give him a hug.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I really do steell real to me.

Speaker 11 (05:42):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
I call him Terry Funk on my wife. No, no, no,
it's mister Funk to you.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Take it easy, man.

Speaker 8 (05:50):
Guy was going to pass out.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Sitting in like a high school gymnasium. Yeah, not real.

Speaker 8 (05:59):
Don't take us so seriously, dude.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I remember growing up with wrestling fans and they would oh,
they're ready to fight you if you said it was scripted,
And so I stopped saying it because I never watched
wrestling growing up, Like I was always curious about Bobo Brazil,
Andre the Giant, Haul Cogan. Just just to be able
to go out and you know, at the Superdome and

(06:21):
have you know, ninety thousand people there, I mean, there's
something to be said for you know, the performance. You know,
it's performance art and they're athletes, but to go out
there and the fact that it's you know that they've
scripted everything, or at least you know when you when
you're in a movie, they script the fight scene like Okay,

(06:41):
you're going to do this, then I'm going to do that,
and I'm gonna do this. You're not going to hit me,
We're going to make it look like I'm hitting you.
And then you put that into wrestling. You put guys
out there and they're tights and you know you're good
to go, good to go?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yes, ton I got caught.

Speaker 12 (06:56):
Up and I went to Madison Square guard I think
the Honky talk Man Betond You the Giant or whatever,
and Macho Man was there and I got the last
purple Macho Man shirt in the souvenir shop, and I
was all excited.

Speaker 8 (07:06):
So there was a time that I was like, this
is fun stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
There is no reason why anybody should have beaten ander
A the Giant, No, I mean just not. And then
when Hulk picked him up. One of the greatest moments
in the history of sports.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Right, WrestleMania I think goes in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, probably so the big deal h literally yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
So it's still real to me, damn it. Guy is
named Dave Willis aka the original crying wrestling fan. He's
done interviews about this. This was a long time with
This is at least ten years ago, and he has
a web page of course Twitter following of five thousand people.
All right, he's from Georgia.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
And he's doing better than I am. Dave will Yeah,
misten to my podcast.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Dakota in Indiana. Good morning Dakota, Hey Dan, how are
you great? Wonderful?

Speaker 8 (07:56):
Hey?

Speaker 13 (07:56):
I just want to say I appreciate all of you guys.
I was also wondering, are we are you going to
get an interview with the greatest booker of all time,
Scott Scharipoe Shapiro is wondering before you were yeah, Shapiro,
before you retire.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
They he used to book for Mike and Mike Scott
Shapiro and did it well.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, did it really well.

Speaker 13 (08:20):
I mean the greatest from you know, absolutely, thank you,
thank you good.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Related to Maria Sharpe, Yeah, it's Scott Shapiro.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
That's a shot that's a shot at Yeah, that's a
shot at you.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
Gotta got to interview Scott Chepael.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Scott Scott Shapiro book for Mike and Mike on the Mothership.
He was so good they put him up into management
like he had done everything he could.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Possibly do, right. He got every guest.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, he never ever failed. You got wanted somebody. If
Mike Greenberg said you got to get that guy for me,
he got that guy for He said.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Get up.

Speaker 12 (08:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna take a page out of Justin Field.
You guys are trying to create some kind of conflict that.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Doesn't No, no, not me.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Antonio and randomly calls in with the Scot Shapiro rights
for absolutely no reason. What's it would have been better
if he pronounced Shapiro's name correctly. That was unfortunate, Yes,
that was let's say suck at Fritz of your Antonio
and Long Beach. Turn down your radio. Antonio. Uh, he

(09:25):
had his radiop Yeah, make sure you turn down your radio.
Tyler tell them to turn down their radio every time
they call in eight seven seventh three DP. Show operator
Tyler standing by, say good morning. You're watching on Peacock
and our radio affiliates around the country. Chris Long, Howie
Long's Sun, former NFL defensive lineman. He'll join us, coming

(09:46):
up a little bit. He's kind of podcast who doesn't.
We want to make way for Dylan the graphics Guy.
We are recording after the show. Dan Patrick takes a
gamble bad Larry Shayan Irving and Dylan the Graphics Guy.
Dylan the Graphics Guy surprised everybody he had a four
leg parlay fourteen parlay that hit last week. Go to

(10:10):
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Speaker 5 (10:23):
The crown is yours. All right, we make way for Dylan.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, I fell the oldest, Thank you, the oldest looking
and sounding twenty seven year old you will find in America.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
All Right, what do we have this week?

Speaker 14 (10:37):
Well, I already took a victory laped in, but I
would like to remind everyone last week we won.

Speaker 9 (10:42):
The All Birds parlay. It's true, so naturally.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Now all Birds.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
You had the Ravens, you had the Cardinals, you had
the Seahawks.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Falcons and the Falcons the Falcons Falcons.

Speaker 14 (10:52):
Okay, yeah, So like any gambler, after a win like that,
I immediately think I'm invincible. Now to swing a little
harder this time? Three lag parlay Dan Broncos money line
against the Dolphins plus two thirty five.

Speaker 11 (11:10):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (11:10):
Yeah, they're six and a half point dogs.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
That's in Miami.

Speaker 14 (11:14):
It's in Miami.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (11:18):
The Broncos have lost two heartbreakers.

Speaker 14 (11:22):
The Dolphins played the Patriots, who are objectively not great
this year, pretty close. I think they're due for an
l and two verse two and oh Dan.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Okay, story as old as time.

Speaker 14 (11:36):
I got the Bears plus twelve and a half against
the Chiefs.

Speaker 9 (11:40):
I don't trust the Chiefs ever to cover the spread.

Speaker 14 (11:42):
Okay, And the Lions minus three against the Falcons. I'm
calling it.

Speaker 9 (11:49):
The BBL parlay.

Speaker 14 (11:51):
Bears, Broncos and.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Lions VL alright, I like naming each one.

Speaker 14 (11:57):
Yeah, there's a theme, and they're also all animals too,
but that was a coincidence. This time all four legged animals.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Okay, but it's a three it's a three leg part
three leg parlay lays out about plus ten ninety one.

Speaker 14 (12:11):
It's around ten to one odds. Anything else, no, actually, well,
free pick tonight for everyone. Brandon Nyuk anytime touchdown score.
I know that was brought up earlier, but I jogged
my memory. He always scores in prime time.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
He's got the third best odds according to DraftKings.

Speaker 9 (12:28):
Yeah, it's like plus one sixty.

Speaker 14 (12:29):
Okay, but yes, you can bet the BBL parlay on
the Drafting Sports Book.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
All right, More from Dylan the graphics guy coming up
right after the show, Shyan Irving and bad Larry.

Speaker 9 (12:41):
Thank you Dylan, No problem, am I I feel.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
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Speaker 5 (13:00):
The crown is years.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yes, he's right about the Chiefs. Historically in the past
couple of years, the Chiefs don't cover. I think they
didn't cover twelve times last year in seventeen games. They
have a lot of close games, especially halftime. They never
cover the halftime spread.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Not never.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
But you know, Fritzi had some poll questions. I don't
know what we're going to go with in the final hour,
but do you want to read some of these that
you had Fritzy to start the show?

Speaker 8 (13:23):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (13:24):
For Justin Fields and the Bears, it's the beginning of
the end. It's a bump in the road. They'll get
on the same page.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well all route that it's a bump in the road.
They'll get on the same page. It's only two weeks in.
Maybe they'll figure it out. Maybe both sides will modify
with the game plan.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
It feels to me like maybe Fields.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
To me, it's just in the.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Okay, give me the schedule.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
You yell when they get a win the Bear Okay
at Kansas City host.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
Wow, that's a shot.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
At your commander's host. Minnesota slow start for Minnesota host
Vegas and Jimmy g Wow at the Chargers, at the Saints,
then Carolina November ninth at home. Sure, man, yeah, dang,

(14:30):
they get Arizona later in the season.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Is it you imagine for the number one pick. Yeah,
it's only a.

Speaker 12 (14:38):
Month and a half away to get that w against
Carolina November ninth, when not, thank you, I'll get there.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
If you set the over under right now with three
and a half for the Bears.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I go over. I'll go over three and a half wins. See,
you end up winning games where you go, how did
that happen?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Now?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sometimes you go, you know, the really good teams will
lose a game and you go, how did that happen?
The Bears might be a team where you go, how
did that happen? Where they won a game? Yes, Marvin,
they beat the Niners week one last year. That was
in a in a quagmuire. It is any give a Sunday, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's true. John in Atlanta, Good morning, John, what's on

(15:15):
your mind today?

Speaker 10 (15:17):
Good morning? I got a question for you guys. It
really bothers me too. You guys brought up Notre Dame
like last week about how they shouldn't like join a conference.
Where in sports does a team get a free buy
for no reason just to watch, Like good teams play
each other and lose and they get to jump them. Like,
how is that still happening in sports?

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Well, he's talking about Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, Notre Dame is still a draw and as long
as you can have people who are looking at this,
maybe not objectively, but getting Notre Dame in there brings
eyeballs and sometimes that's what it comes down to. You know,
it's a beauty pageant. But Notre Dame. Uh, you know,

(16:02):
you look at their they have a pretty good schedule.
You got Ohio State and USC uh, Clemson. I mean,
this isn't one of those where it's you know, kind
of a playing in the ACC.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, Notre Dame has some good and bad with their schedule.
They have some teams they play every year, like Navy,
which is usually a solid game. They usually play Stanford.
Lately they played Clemson. Yeah, they don't play Michigan anymore,
which stinks. That used to be a prime game.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
Kind of stink.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
But then they sub in Ohio State. Yes, they have
a lot of flex with their schedule a lot. They're
every it's whatever they want to do. It's all tradition.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, they got a lot of rivalries. Then they're trying
to keep those rivalries. But they've added to that.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
They don't have a conference conference final to lose, you know,
they don't have the danger of losing in the conference.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Then they don't have a conference final to win, right,
because then you're playing against the quality opponent.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
They finished the season Clemson, Wake Forest.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Stanford, Okay, one tough game then yeah, yeah, man Stanford,
I know the artist formerly known as the Cardinal. All right,
let me take a break. We'll get to more phone calls.
It's more football to talk about. Eighteen after the hour.
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(17:22):
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Speaker 5 (17:31):
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Steelers and the Raiders Sunday night. Football festivities start on
NBC in Peacock at seven Eastern. More phone calls coming up,
update the poll results. He's our good buddy Chris Long
inside the NFL analyst. He'll be joining us coming up
in a little bit with the host Ryan Clark and

(19:02):
Channing Crowder, Jay Cutler, Chad Ocho Cinco and Chris Long,
so he'll be joining us here coming up as well.
Did we get a further update on the hit by
Minca with Chubb.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I haven't seen anything about any fines or anything like
that in the league, and no real no more details
from the Browns.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Because I wondered, now you're getting people, you know, it's
hard to look at the hit because ESPN didn't replay it.
You're seeing some on social media, but I don't know
if the NFL has looked at this. And the question is,
you know, was it a legitimate hit? Mika Fitzpatrick said
that I would say one. They've never tackled Nick Chubb before,

(19:46):
and they're telling me to go high. To what I
seen was it opened up its goal line. I didn't
see anybody on him. I made the decision as soon
as I seen the whole open up and him and
the whole go low. You can tell me how to
tackle him low, but it's a fast game. It's a
game where you make decisions in milliseconds. Can't really control

(20:07):
what happened after you choose to make your decision. I
already chose to go low. Somebody got on his back
when I was going low, and what happened happened. There's
nothing I would do differently. Again, I said earlier, it's unfortunate.
Nick Chubb's a great player. He makes the game a
lot better when he's playing. Just hope for a speedy recovery.

(20:29):
There's been this push for if a player is already engaged,
that you can't go low when somebody has him up top.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
It just happens so quickly. I know that we want to.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
We want to look at these isolated incidents and say, oh, okay,
then he shouldn't have gone low. He should have seen
that somebody had him up top. It happens so quickly,
and you're in the middle of all of this. I
just can't imagine what it's like to be a defensive
player anymore. That no matter what you do, it feels
like you're not doing it the right way, you're not
doing enough, like it's up to you to safeguard all

(21:05):
the offensive players. These guys are trying to make a living,
they're trying to take you down. And Mika Fitzpatrick, who
got hurt. They took him to the hospital on that tackle.
Can he see that Nick Chubb is engaged up top
and therefore he shouldn't have gone low. If he wasn't engaged,

(21:26):
then he could have gone low.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah, Pauline, I've watched a few replays, a few pictures
that cut short when Nick Chubb where his knee collapses.
MINC's going pretty low. He's being wrapped up. Chubb is
being wrapped up by fifty five and Minca is almost
on the ground himself, and he goes shoulder to knee like.
I don't think he had the intentions of doing taking
breaking his knee, but he is very low.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Well, if you've tried to tackle Derrick Henry, are you
gonna go up top?

Speaker 8 (21:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Like Jerome Bettis, You're going low. And that's the only
way you get these guys down. And these guys outweigh
these defensive backs by fifty pounds, some of these running backs,
and they're running at you. I just it's tough to
be a defensive player in the NFL. By the way,
Dion Sanders did an interview with Taylor Rooks. I'll have

(22:17):
some of those comments coming up. Dion's on fire. He
is live at the improv man. He cannot do any wrong.
Our good buddy, Chris Long Inside, the NFL analyst and
former NFL defensive end, won a Super Bowl. Did you
want a couple of Super Bowls?

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Didn't you? Did you win? Patriots at Eagles?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Got a little lucky at the end there, Dan, Okay,
wear the ring you see it.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
The rings are in a safe. You know.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
The rings are like they're only for team events, you know,
like NFL honors.

Speaker 7 (22:50):
That sort of thing. I'm the type that would lose
my Super Bowl ring, so they stay in the safe.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
This is what I proposed years ago that we should
have a ring and then inside the ring like you
can wear it almost like a class.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Ring from high school.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
So it's medium size, it's not gaudy, but it still
represents something you did with your team. Then you go
right out the show ring if you want to. But
this gives you the Hey, there's my high school graduation ring.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I kind of like that. I'd like to have four rings,
you know. I feel like Robert Lorri or one of
these guys.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
That stacked a bunch of them up. But yeah, yeah,
I got lucky there at the end. Dan it was.
It was a good little run.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Good to talk to you again. What's it like being
on a bad team?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Wow, the hard hitting questions right off the bat, It's
so funny, Dan, I was watching It's not funny, not
for the people of Chicago, but I was watching the Bears,
and you know that game against Tampa. I feel like
I've been in that game one hundred times in eight
years in Saint Louis. I mean one in fifteen, two
and fourteen. You know the height of our our run
there was seven and nine. And that Chicago team feels

(23:58):
a lot like teams that I was on. You know,
when you gather a little bit of hope, you go
through camp, and camp is tough because you got these
old vets, and especially when I got in the league,
it was the old CBA, So you had a bunch
of old guys who had seen it all. You know,
they were a little bit hardened and they were gonna
be honest with you about how the team looked today.
I think in camp it's all feel good. Everybody's got hope.

(24:21):
It's a bunch of young players. You don't know in
camp if you've only been in for like four years,
if your team sucks, and back in the day, I
think we had a pretty good pulse on that. So
it was like a mind game, you know, as the
years went on, of how can I trick myself into
believing that we have a shot to do this? And
the hardest part is it's not like the NBA. It's

(24:42):
not like the MLB. When you're gonna suck, You get
on the team plane, you go to dinner, you have
fun on the road. I'm not saying these guys are
having fun when they winning twenty games in the NBA,
but it's a lot easier than an NFL player is
gonna put his body on the line every Sunday and
knowing that, like if you turn on your TV and
you're in Arizona Car Cardinal, you're drafting Caleb Williams according

(25:02):
to guys like myself and everybody else. And sometimes I
think we make it a little bit too simple when
it comes to like punting on a season.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
So it can be really hard every Sunday.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's like taking the field and knowing we're probably going
to lose, but you got to go out there and
kind of, I don't know, you hope to be the
guy that jumps off the tape if anybody's watching, you know,
because nobody's watching on TV, but somebody's going to be
watching next week in the All twenty two, if anybody's watching,
if anybody cares, I'm going to be the guy that
jumps off the tape.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
What did you see in the Mika Fitzpatrick hit on
Nick Chubb.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
So at first, and you know, because it's all slow
motion in the and I heard your take that you know,
they should have showed it. That stuff doesn't bother me
because you know, like, listen, it's happened to my friends.
I've seen it in person. It's hard to make me squeamish.
But they do show the slow motion. They don't go
full speed. The angle was kind of from the right sideline,

(25:57):
so you don't see Minka's approach at full speed. And initially,
even as a defensive player who albeit saw the game
from the front and never had to make those plays, okay,
I was like, hey man, people are saying Minka has
a track record. He's just doing it. He's going for it.
He's just going low and he's got to know that
linebacker's there. But as I slept on it, and I

(26:20):
woke up to do inside the NFL and Ryan Clark
was there and I was reading through his Twitter and
he's going back and forth with Nate Burlson.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
I'm kind of like, do I disagree with the host here?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
You know, me and Right didn't talk about it, but
I just got an All twenty two and took a
closer look, and I do not think it was dirty.
And the thing that because for you to prove that
something's dirty, it has to be with malicious intent, intent
to injure. You can say that it's an imperfect situation
for running backs in the NFL. We talk about this
all the time. I mean, it's a tough job. And

(26:50):
this is why you can say that it's tough for defenders.
You know, they've legislated where you can hit a guy
the whole thing. But I think the most compelling argument
for me is I'm texting guys and calling guys that
I play with on the back end who are the
furthest thing from dirty players, people that I respect greatly,
and they're like, listen, man, not dirty at all. It's

(27:10):
the four yard line. We got to get this guy down.
He's not seeing that backer who almost simultaneously jumps on
Chubb's back. I saw comparisons to a defensive lineman being
high load.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
Not true.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I mean a defensive lineman being high loaded in today's
game is it is vindictive. That's the only way you
high low somebody. I mean, it's so easy to hurt
somebody doing that. Even back in my dad's day, he
used to tell me about, Hey, when the two hundred
and ninety pound guards were getting thrown around by he
man out there and they retired of Howie Long, they
would high low him and it was a dirtbag thing
to do. Now, the difference is this, when a running

(27:43):
back is turning his feet. Statistically speaking, it's really hard
to hit that guy at the right time and injure him,
even if you were trying, because his feet are up
and down. If you're anchoring in a four technique, both
your feed are planted your stationary and there's no expectation
of that happening.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
Guys do this all the time.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I watched the tape twenty three Kazi for the Steelers
made a play at the beginning of the fourth quarter
early in the game. It happened a couple times in
that game alone, So I'm just not comfortable calling a
guy dirty. You know that's a heavy accusation. I've seen
dirty plays. You want to talk about dirty? Go back
to the college football landscape last week, it's not worth
death threats. I think that thing was ridiculous. I think

(28:25):
I heard you all talking about Dion. I think he's
just been brilliant at the podium, the voice of reason,
the adult in the room. But this was not a
dirty play on Monday night, in my opinion, And it
took me a second, I'll admit, And today I think
the landscape is when you get online, you get on X,
you get on the X machine, you're so afraid to
step out and say, hey guys. I don't see it

(28:45):
that way, because you know, the compounding effect of everybody's
opinion is the people who know will be afraid to
be called that same thing, and it's not worth them
to speak up. And I learned that in reaching out
to a few dbs and a wide receiver who said
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I'm talking to Chris Long. Inside the NFL. The host
is Ryan Clark, Channing Crowders there, Jay Cutler, o Jo
Sinko every Tuesday at eight eastern on the CW and
stream the episode the next day on cwtv dot com
and the CW app. Is there anybody that you still
harbor a grudge against that you played against?

Speaker 7 (29:21):
Not really. I was talking about this the other day.
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
There was a guy named Anthony Davis in San Francisco,
and we outwardly didn't like each other.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
You know, he was younger.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I got the best of him a few times, and
I'm sure somewhere he's sitting there with his feet kicked up,
like you're bringing this up again. I'm good, you know, Like, yeah,
it was really hard for me. Breno Jackamini a guy
who played in that Tom Cable offense in Seattle, and
it was so physical and he'd hit you late and
he'd dump you, and that group would do borderline dirty stuff.

(29:50):
But for the most part, when I got off the
field and I was done, I was done with it.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
It takes a lot to harbor a grudge like that.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
My grudge is more against teams that we just couldn't
seem to be, you know, And I try not to
let it affect my analysis, and I think I've done
a pretty good job of it, because I picked the
San Francisco forty nine ers to be in the Super Bowl.
I've been complimentary of the of the Seahawks. The thing
that I've had the hardest time with Dan, and maybe
you could help me out, is fan bases are extremely
sensitive about their teams and they think it's personal, and

(30:19):
you know, like I'll be breaking down the Falcons and
I'll be like, hey, they're a good team. Desmond Ridder
has to catch up. And I got a hundred Falcons
fans in my mentions.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
Like, you know you're a hater. You hate us, I
don't hate you.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Why do you read them? Why do you read them?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Because we're a growing podcast, so at this point, you
know you're Dan Patrick. You know, like you don't need
to read your comments. You don't need feedback. Your show's
been going to let.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Them change your opinion, and if.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
They don't, they don't. Desmond Ridder needs to catch up.
I'm saying it again on.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
The Dan Patrick Show.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
But I like to read because you know, sometimes the
comments are actually constructive. They're like we like this, we
need time stamps on the YouTube video, maybe more of this.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
Why didn't you talk about the Cardinals day?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, why didn't you have somebody who goes through you
or your wife goes through and no, you don't want
your wife. No, but have somebody who goes through it
and then filters and just says, hey, here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
This is what the dan Nets do.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Congratulations Matt in the back of the room, one of
our producers here.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
I don't have a cool name promoted like the dan Ettes.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, Matt, you get to go through all the YouTube
mensions and aggregate the opinions.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, there you go, Matt Grad Matt just got promoted.

Speaker 7 (31:34):
What's your dan Patrick?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
What's your story that you're going to tell your kids
about Tom Brady?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
A few, I think, you know, the first and foremost.
I got a lot of respect for the guy, you know,
Like I'm not just saying that I.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Don't have to still give us any cheesy stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
No, I've been critical of him when when he's you know,
Ninja kicked defensive backs after interceptions like you know. I
don't know if it's a New England quarterback thing with
Mac Jones and him where they they're a little bit,
But I think Tom Brady was one of the nicest,
most down to earth teammates I had, and I truly
think he's a good person. He has a good heart,

(32:12):
and when I got into New England, you know, but
he's a leader. On a team like that, it can
be really good or it can be really disruptive. Because
you're good players, they set the tone and if it's
not a great guy, you know, that can, that can,
that can kind of poison a locker room, even if
you don't realize it. When I walked into the building,
you know, I'd played nine years on a lot of

(32:33):
bad teams, had had a good run, but I didn't
expect that Tom Brady knew much about me. And you know,
of course I walk in. He's passing me in the hallway.
We're on the way out to walk through, and I say, Tom,
nice to meet him, Chris, you know, appreciate you. And
he goes and he's actually there. I was coming up
to introduce myself, Chris. I just wanted to welcome me here.

(32:54):
You know, I've I've enjoyed watching you play. We're happy
to have you. And I saw him repeat that interaction
with four or five guys that were new, kind of
veteran additions in that locker room. I saw him treat
the janitor the same way that he'd treat you know, Bill,
I saw him treat the guy in the parking lot
the same way that he would treat Josh McDaniels. I

(33:16):
really do believe you can judge somebody on how they
treat the person in the building who you need the
least from. And I saw him on many occasions do that.
And I also saw him turn into hell on wheels
on the sideline, which you need to be sometimes. And
I think some people see him slamming a tablet and
they want to point the finger at him and say,
you know, bad teammate or whatever. That's leadership sometimes and

(33:39):
you can say it's not the packaging you like, or
he looks like a baby sometimes, but sometimes you got
to be that guy. And I thought he possessed the
ability to do both be that picky up guy, have fun,
but also the guy could jump down your throat and
strike the fear of God and the wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
But then you have Belichick doesn't say too much.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Nah, Chris, good to see you, good game.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
I love Bill. I love Bill, Dad. I can't help
but love Bill.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Love Bill. What do you what's there to love?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
A lot?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
The guy's got hobbies that are like quirky. He likes
like boats and lacrosse, and you know, like he likes
his dog. It's just kind of like disarming that the
dude who you know, you thought for a long time
was maybe Darth Vader has this kind of soft side.
And if you get Bill to laugh, I mean, you
just I used to go through the hall and just
try to make Bill laugh, you know, not in a

(34:37):
kissing up way, but I just wanted to see him smile,
because you know, when he just breaks character for a second,
that upper lip moves just a little bit and.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
You're like, hey, we did it. Yeah, we used to
love yeah, like we used to love that. But I
you know, I love Bill because he was honest. And
so many coaches in.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
The NFL will not shoot you straight, even if they're
gonna fire you in two weeks, they'll they'll be afraid
to tell you that to your face in their office.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
I had two coaches like that.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I remember when I was unhealthy at the end of
my career in Saint Louis, Greg Williams pulled me in
his office and I was like, Hey, I want to
be out there on third down, and I'm thinking in
my head like a competitor, and he's like, you're not
good enough right now, you're not healthy enough.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
I love you, but that's a disservice to the other guys.
And it took that.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
It took hearing the honesty, and the same thing with Bill,
you know, being honest with me at different turns in
the road. And another thing I love about Bill is
this Dan It's a little bit off the beaten path
for a fan, but when we travel as NFL players,
whether you're a ten year of VET, a fourteen year VET,
a rookie, chances are these coaches are going to put
you back in coach ironically, and the coaches, the little

(35:44):
five to ten guys, well, I don't want to say
five ten, maybe the five to seven guys, some of
the quality control guys. The little feet are kicking, you know,
above the ground. They don't need all that leg room.
And they're up there watching all twenty two having a
soda and we're in the back and we just played
sixty plays and I'm cramped between Jordan Mylotta and Lane Johnson. Okay,
but when we were in New England, Bill put all

(36:06):
the guys that he could up in the front. Bill
Satin coach, So you know, you think about that's just
a little anecdote about the guy.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
I loved his honesty. I love the fact that he
respected his players.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
And I've texted him since. And you think I was
just there for a year, played a role left in
free agency. Maybe you know, maybe he'd be happy about that,
or maybe he'd hold a grudge. Uh, but he's actually
you know, we've talked from time to time, and one
time I complimented him on that very travel deal and
I got a text out of the blue from Bill
that was like, I appreciate you commending our travel, Chris,

(36:41):
and it just made my dad.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
I just I'm a big Bill fan.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
And yeah, you can say the personnel decisions haven't been great,
but I really think there's a good football team in there.
And I would almost go as far as saying that's
the best oh and two team in the league, if
that's the distinction you want to own.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Good luck with inside the NFL. My best of the
family is always and thanks for joining us.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
Thanks Drek, great to see you.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
That's Chris Long inside the NFL Analyst and you can
watch every Tuesday at eight Eastern on the CW stream
The episode the next day on CWTV dot com in
the CWM. We've known him a long time when he
was at Virginia when he first got out. I remember
talking cars. Didn't he have like a Cadillac El Dorado?

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Yeah, some big Impala or something.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, I remember that. We've known him a long long time.
I just want to say thank you for complimenting the coach.
Sitting on coach, he's sucking up to Belichick and Brady.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
You kind of got it, though, do you?

Speaker 6 (37:40):
I think, if you, I think if you get to
New England and Tom is right there and Bill's walking
down the hallway.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Try I could see.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
I could see the like appeal of trying to get
Bill Belichick to break character. Definitely using the term break
character was perfect. Absolutely totally get that. If you could
get that to laugh, that's a good day.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
But doesn'ty strike you is he's gonna laugh and it's
gonna be an awkward laugh, like he would be like
uh huh uh.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
Or like laugh at the wrong time, Like no, that
wasn't the funny part yet.

Speaker 8 (38:13):
Crack muscles at his hands.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
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(39:20):
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Speaker 7 (39:29):
Hey, what's up everybody?

Speaker 11 (39:30):
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Speaker 5 (39:37):
What is up on Game?

Speaker 11 (39:38):
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Speaker 2 (40:09):
Oh, it's September, and it's September. Earth went in fire
at ninety six. Rock still got.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
It, Still got it. I don't know if I ever
had it, but I still got it. Yeah. In the post.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I never realized that these top forty jocks had a
clock there that would count down and tell you how
much time you had before it hit the post in
the eighties.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
That's cheating, that's my god, that's like steroids did.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
I didn't know it.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I thought, Man, they're hitting the post right before the
lyrics start.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
It's one of like the best feelings in radio.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
It is when you hit the post. It just crushed it. Yes,
put your cands down.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Yeah, nailed it.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah. This one gives you enough time
you can tell the story a little bit.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
Earth Wind and fire. Got them tickets coming up next
to that. Oh yeah, let's stay tuned in.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, but I have to go by just the feel
of it. Sometimes when if you have a clock, I
mean that that's easy. It'd be like five four and
that'll be coming up next. On w d j Egs.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Boom, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Deon Sanders sat down and did an interview go figure.

Speaker 14 (41:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
He was with Taylor Rooks, uh the Taylor Rooks podcast
on Bleacher Report, and he was talking about his son
Shador and the NFL Draft.

Speaker 15 (41:52):
It's not about what I'm seeing from them. It's about
a whole lot of other things. Teens, position, round, projection,
all of that plays a role because now with nil
and who they are, shoot, you make just as much
money here as you get in there, unless you, uh,

(42:16):
you know, one of the first five picks. But Shadoy
don't want to be two to nobody.

Speaker 7 (42:20):
He don't get down like that.

Speaker 15 (42:22):
So, you know, people projecting him behind. You know, Caleb Williason,
Caleb Williams is phenomenal, but shadow I ain't no back
seat ride or he ain't. You know, he drives Mayball.
He don't have a drive in it. He drives it
all right.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
He also had this to say about his other son
during the game against Colorado State.

Speaker 15 (42:44):
His brother came to me in over time and he
rarely ever calls me Dad.

Speaker 7 (42:48):
On the field. He know WHI play that.

Speaker 15 (42:49):
He's like, Dad, you're putting the defense out there. First,
I said, y'all ain't stopped nobody all day. Your brother
going out there, and I know what he gonna do.
That really happened because I like to put pressure on people.
I don't like people putting the pressure on us. I
know he's gonna apply instant fresh and he did.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
That's good stuff. That's with Taylor Rooks this day and
sports history.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Polly got a couple for you here. Nineteen seventy, NFL's
Monday Night Football made its debut on ABC TV. Yeah,
Browns versus the Jets, So that would mean it wouldn't
have started Week one or Week one was farther back
in the season.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
Man probably less games.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Fewer games later. Start yeah, okay. Nineteen seventy one, the
American League approved the move of the Washington Senators to Arlington, Texas.
Eighty two, the NFL started their fifty seven day player strike,
first ever regular season walk out, and in eight the
Yankees played their last game at Yankee Stadium. The new
Yankee Stadium opened across street. Go figure in od Is

(43:42):
two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Ronnie Brown rushes for four touchdowns, throws another touchdown as
Miami unveils the Wildcat formation and they beat the Patriots.
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