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January 24, 2025 41 mins

Pete Carroll is now the Raiders head coach - what awaits him? ESPN's Booger McFarland talks about the latest coaching hires in the NFL and Championship weekend in the playoffs. Ohio State head coach Ryan Day joins the show and talks about how winning the national title game was a great relief.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Final hour.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
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(00:25):
of the Dan Patrick Show. If you're just tuning in,
Pete Carroll is back in the NFL, the Raiders and
Pete Carroll working on a deal, finalizing a deal to
make him the next head coach of the Raiders, reportedly
a three year deal. Booker McFarlane in the Mothership. We'll
get his reaction to this coming up shortly, and Ryan Day,
Ohio state head coach, will stop by as well. The

(00:48):
Jags have a new coach. He's Liam Cohen and he
left Tampa Bay, went to Jacksonville and then came back
to Tampa Bay, and then left Tampa Bay and then
went back to Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And now he goes back as the head coach.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Commander's Eagles three Eastern Bills, Chiefs six point thirty Eastern
and Weather shouldn't be an issue either one of these places.
Commanders still getting six and the Bills are getting one
and a half. More phone calls coming up this final hour,
we make way for NFL College and ESPN College and

(01:24):
NFL analyst Booker McFarland on the program. Your reaction to
Pete Carroll back in the NFL coach and the Raiders booger.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well, I think the Raiders wants stability. I think that's
the one thing you're getting when you get a veteran
coach like Pete Carroll.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
I think it's good.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I think Pete Carroll is going to give them a
sense of okay, now we are a professional organization. Not
that they weren't well with Antonio Peers, but you just
got the feeling that there was always the question, are
we going to keep Antonio or are we not? I
think Pete Carroll's hire says we got our coach. I
think it's a three year deal with the team option
for the fourth, so I think Pete's in good shape

(01:59):
now has the ability. Now comes the big question, Dan,
who's going to be the quarterback? Because I don't think Gardner,
Minshew or aoc ain't O'Connell. Either one of them are
the answers. So now they have to figure that out.
And then I think Pete Carroll has always been a
guy that got his team to play at a maximum level.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
So I expect no different now with the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Okay, but as a veteran, like what is Pete Carroll
going to bring to that organization aside from stability, but
I'm talking about day to day like why would Pete
Carroll be the person that they wanted. I know they
lost out on Ben Johnson, but yeah, you go from
Ben Johnson with no head coaching experience to Pete Carroll
with a lot of head coaching experience.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Structure, been there, He's taking teams to Super Bowls. Like,
Pete understands how to get it done. Pete knows what
it takes. And I think anytime you have somebody that
stands in front of the room who knows what it takes,
you automatically have buy in because you've been there, You've
done that, and so now the players know that if
we just do what Pete says, Pete will take us there.
And there's nothing better in any type of job that

(03:01):
you're in. I think you will attest to this, there's
nothing better than confidence. It's amazing what happens when you
get the right people in the right place. How that
gives an organization confidence. Just look at the Washington Commanders.
They were left for dead last year. Incomes Dan Quinn.
They get new ownership, they get a new quarterback, and
they're planning for a chance to go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Dan.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Let that be no better example than when you get
the right people in the right spot. Now your organization
can take off. Whether the Raiders take off at that level,
we'll see, but they definitely have the right coach.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
In my opinion.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
The big difference is obviously Jaden Daniels. But is this
team's pretty much the team that was there last year
and then you add Jayden to this. I mean, is
it that simple that that kind of turnaround.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well, the quarterback is a big piece, and then you
bring in Bobby Wagner, you get some veteran guys, but
there's no question that the quarterback is the central piece
to that touches the ball every single play. Then and
when you have a guy that's a difference maker that
touches the ball every single play, now, the other fifty
two guys in the organization understanding know that we got

(04:09):
a guy that can compete with the upper echeline of
the league.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
And I'm not saying he's.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Better than Mahomes or Borough, Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen,
but he can't compete. And when I wake up and
go to the building every morning, man, that's a great
feeling because I know, if I do my job.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
We got a chance.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
There's a difference when you have a guy in there.
And no disrespect to Sam Howell. Sam Howell wasn't getting
me warm and fuzzy every time I walked in the building.
Jay Daniels gives me an opportunity to be that way.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
How do they beat the Eagles?

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Stop the run?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
They gotta stop, say Kwan Barkley. And it sounds crazy
because Jalen Hurts. We've seen him go toe to toe
with Patrick Mahomes and the Super Bowl. But they got
to make Jalen Hurst beat him. They got to make
Jalen Hurst throw the football to AJ Brown and Devonte Smith.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
I think it's the lesser of.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Two evils because either one the passing game or the
running game, can get you. But I think if you
are the command who's You've got to take away these
fifty sixty seven yard run that sain Kwon Bark has
been putting up and make Jalen Hurts beat you. And
I think if they do that, they'll at least give
themselves an opportunity to.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
We don't know if he's one hundred percent Jalen hurds right.
So given that you know that knee could be a
little bonky, do you want to kind of force him
to be mobile as opposed to force him to being
a pocket pancer.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, I think anytime he's in the pocket number one,
you want to get pressure up the middle, Like with
Jonathan Allen Deron Payin. You want pressure up the middle,
and then you want to make him go to his left.
I think the numbers are are astronomically worse when he
goes to his left, as you would expect right handed
quarterback going left. It's tougher to throw. So you want

(05:50):
to make him go to his left rather than Scramblin
says right. So if I'm bringing pressure, I'm bringing pressure
from his right arm. I'm going to make him go left.
Anything you can get to take advantage of his impairment,
because let's face it, Nobody, even if you don't get
your knee twisted, is healthy this time of year, but
especially him when he got that knees twisted up. I mean,
we thought maybe he wasn't going to come back in

(06:12):
the game last week, and then he comes back and
he finishes. I don't think he's going to be one
hundred percent. I think if you're an Eagles fan and
you're hoping he's closer to eighty five or ninety, I
would bet he's probably closer to seventy five.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Will know early.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm blitzing him early, and I'm going to see whether
or not he can run. And if I know early
on he can't run, that changes my entire game plan.
And so I think you're gonna see dan Quinn find
out in the first series how healthy that knee is
by bringing pressure from the from the right, from his
right arm or up the middle, make him run and
just see how healthy he is.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
What would you do as a defensive player with Mahomes
with the sliding that going out of the going out
of bounds, Dude, it feels like you know, he knows
he's protected and he's kind of flirting with these rules here.
But as a defensive player, what would you do.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I think it's up to the coaches.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Number one pregame, I think you have a talk to
the referee, like, hey, listen, we know the quarterback is protected. However,
how do you want us to handle this when he's
a runner, Because when he's a runner, he's not protected,
because again he's a runner, not a quarterback in the pocket.
But we've seen mahomes run down the field and then
slide twenty or thirty yards down the field. And so

(07:26):
I'm having a talk with the referee just to say, hey,
let's alert and be on alert for the late slide
because if I'm already in my tackling motion, I can't stop.
And then you got to tell your defenders, hey, guys,
let's proceed with aggressive caution. And here's what I mean.
You got to go ahet in one hundred miles an hour.
And then at the last minute, if you think if

(07:47):
he's sliding, then use your hands. Don't hit him with
your elbow in your head, use your hands to get
him down. I think the biggest deal with these penalties
is you're seeing a lot of blows with your shoulder
pass or the helmet or the form to Patrick mahomes head,
let's use our hands to get him on the ground.
And I think if they do that, they'll probably get

(08:08):
the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
But I think.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Patrick understands how to manipulate the rules a little bit,
and I don't blame it. How many times have we
seen him though, like he's going out of bounds and
he puts that foot in the ground.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
And gets another ten or fifteen No, I know.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
I think that's where you have to alert the reff like, hey,
how are you going to call that?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
And what would you like me to do?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Booker, I've said it now.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'm not calling for it, but I know that somebody's
going to hit him. Somebody's going to pop him at
some point. If you're going to continue to flirt with
the I'm going out of bound, not going out of bounds,
I'm sliding them, not sly, somebody's going to take a shot.
Deal with the fifteen yards benches clear, Maybe a fine,
But until the NFL, if you want to protect your quarterbacks,

(08:52):
they have to do better at this rule or these
rules so the defense can understand how can this be
a level playing field, because as it is now, it's
not a level playing field. And maybe they don't want
that booger, but at some point I worry that somebody's
gonna take Sean Well.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I don't think to your point, I don't know if
they wanted to be a level playing field because they
realize that the quarterbacks sell. Like right now, we're looking
at Jay and Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, and Josh Allen,
and I think the NFL is salivating right now that
we're gonna any combination of two of these four quarterbacks
in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
We can sell it.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
And that's what you want, Like if you go back
to the Super Bowl with Nick Foles in it, like
the NFL, like Philadelphia want everybody's happy. But we ain't
selling Nick Foles to America to tune in with one
hundred and thirty million people. I love Nick Foles, but
he's not making me warm and fuzzy to turn the
TV to CBS. And so I think that the NFL
is going to protect their quarterbacks. However, you have to

(09:52):
make the game fair for defensive players. And to your point, Dan,
I may even tell my defenders this, hey, guys, early
in the game, first half, first half, I'll give you.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
I'll give you a little leeway.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
So if he's going out of bounds, take a shot
because we can recover in the second half. Now, like
the game, you gotta be cautious, but the first half,
let's light his ass up a little.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Bit, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
NFL Prime Time with Chris Berman and Booger McFarland right
after the game, the AFC Title Game at around nine
to forty five Eastern on the Mothership.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Are the Bills a running team?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
I think the Bills are whatever they need to be team.
You know, when they had Stefan Diggs, that's all we
talked about was Stefan Diggs, Josh Allen. Now they've morphed
into this team that they can do whatever they need
to do. They went out and got a Marik Cooper
so they can throw the football to secure Amari Cooper.
They got the two tidy impactags they can go to
they can throw at the James, could go out to

(10:51):
the backfield, so they have weapons to throw the football. However,
I think what we've realized is this postseason, Dan, the
more physical teams are winning these games.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Right.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
The team that can control the line of scrimmage and
be physically imposing. Those are the teams that are winning
these games. And I think Buffalo said, Okay, we've tried
this with Josh being Superman.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
That didn't work. We've tried this a number of ways.
So how about let's be physical.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Let's get thirty five carries a game between our running
backs and Josh Allen.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Let's control the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
And then in those moments late in the movie, okay
about the time the movies about the commes tell the
god at quarterback to put the kpe on and now
go turn into Superman. And when he turns into Superman,
that means whatever he needs to do.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
If he needs to.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Run thirty, run thirty, If he needs to throw a sixty,
to throw a sixty. And so I think they've developed
into that type of team with one caveat, don't turn
the football over. They haven't turned the ball over, and
I think those are the primary reasons they've been successful.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Are you chiefed out?

Speaker 5 (11:51):
No?

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I never get chiefed out, because when you're a competitor,
every year is different. And so to say I'm chiefed
out with mean that I'm rooting for. I'm not rooting
for the best teams. I think that each and every
time you go out, you got to earn it. The
Chiefs have earned back to back Super Bowls. If they
get to a third, they will have earned it. Everything

(12:13):
is earned in this business. Then nothing is given, man,
And so I'm not chiefed out because I know how
hard it is to go and earn what it is
that you need to get to win a Super Bowl.
I won two of them, none of them. Nothing has
ever been given. Everything has got to be earned.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Do you think the Chiefs get favorable calls?

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I think the home team is always going to get
favorable calls, and the Chiefs have pretty much been at
home except for one playoff run, So I do think
that they get favorable calls because the crowd think about this.
I'm gonna put a scenario out there. Let's say Patrick
Mahomes is running down the chief sideline and there's a
questionable hit. Everybody in the stadium along with everybody in

(12:55):
the sideline, is going to be throw the flag through
the flag and human nature is going to.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Kind of influenced the offishal.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Look like it takes somebody really that that's got a
really nice temperament and a really strong demeanor not to
listen to seventy thousand plus all the coaches.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
In front of your in front of your face doing that.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
So I think the home team, especially on the home sideline,
always get a favorable flag.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
My best to Chris Berman and we'll be watching Sunday night.
Great to talk to you again.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Always man, love coming on with you guys. Thank you
for having me.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Sir Booger McFarlane. One of these days he's coming up
for a meet Friday. It keeps threatening. I mean, we'll
get ready, we'll have he can create the menu NFL
Primetime with Chris Berman and Booger right after the conclusion
of the AFC title game on the mother Ship Alex
in Utah. Then we'll take a break. Ryan Day, the

(13:48):
Ohio state head coach, will join us.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
Hey Alex, Hey, morning guys, Happy Meet Friday.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
I am yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
I in my short time as like a big foot,
I can't think of a better coach division than the
AFC West now, So I guess that's sort of my
question is, is there has there been a better coach
division where you have potentially four Hall of famers all
coaching one division at the same time and also makes

(14:17):
me wonder how long before Tom Brady goes to give
Pete Carroll high five and then just low balls him
by saying, hey, Malcolm Butler and then boss away.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I don't know if Malcolm Butler comes up in the
press conference when they introduced Pete Carol, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Just guessing, yeah, coach, we're handing this one off.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Or.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, Pete, game on the line. You're gonna run the
ball to go? Are you going to pass the ball?

Speaker 6 (14:44):
Question?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
We'll have to do some research.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Is this the best head coaching division in recent memory?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
With the NFL?

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yes, morv recent memory.

Speaker 9 (14:55):
I was going to say all time, NFC East was
a parcels, Tom Landry, Joe Gibbs.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
That's just all the top Jack.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
For mel.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Was was Vermeil the head coach. Then the Eagles checkingiggles.
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Speaker 3 (16:22):
Try to sneak in a few more phone calls here
waiting for Ryan Day, head coach at Ohio State. That
AFC West with Pete Carroll with the Raiders, Jim Harball
with the Chargers, Sean Payton and Denver, Andy Reid and
Kansas City. We were trying to come up with on
short notice, is there another conference division that had coaches

(16:43):
that would rival this one? Because Andy Reach's Hall of Famer,
Jim Harball, he's a football Hall of Fame, not NFL
hall of Fame. And Sean Payton probably a borderline Hall
of Famer. Pete Carroll in there as well, winning a
Super Bowl and lose a Super Bowl as well, but
now back with the Raiders and a three year deal.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Age seven to seven to three.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter
handle a DP show. He's Ryan Day, head coach at
Ohio State, National Champs coach. Congratulations. How much of this
was joy and how much of this was relief?

Speaker 6 (17:21):
And it was a combination of the two.

Speaker 12 (17:23):
Yeah, it was it was both, and I think the
whole run that we went on throughout the playoffs was
that way. I really haven't had as much fun coaching
a team like that in a long time.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
It was just a bunch of guys together. There really
was no class.

Speaker 12 (17:39):
Because class was out, and we just spent a bunch
of time together and had a bunch of fun, bunch
of fun playing. But in the end, as we headed
in that last game, we just knew that, you know,
it would just be another story that kind of comes
and goes. But now the fact that we won, we're
able to cement that story in the history of college football,
and obviously at Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Take me back to Michigan and I had a former
player say this to me that when Michigan tried to
plant the flag, that maybe brought your team together or
more together. Whether that's true or not, you would know
that better. But it's almost like it galvanized this team.
Nothing's going to be easy us against the world. They
embarrassed us. Now let's go out and prove that we're

(18:22):
still the best team. Anything I'm saying that wasn't true.

Speaker 12 (18:28):
I think it's certainly part of the story of the year.
There's no question about that. And I felt like this
team was close anyways. I thought we were galvanized. But
when you go through something like that, you know you
have to regroup and figure out, most importantly, what happened,
and how do we get these things fixed? So you know,

(18:49):
there's a lot of ways to look at this, and
some more dramatic than others, but the truth is we
had to get things fixed. There was things that were
just not right coming out of that game that you know,
in all three phases, we need to get addressed. And
that was the bottom line. And then there was a
lot of other things that came with it, as you know.
And you know, once we got those things addressed and

(19:10):
the players recognize that things needed to get fixed and
knew the plan going into the Tennessee game, there was
just there was a collective, just like you said, a
bunch of guys together saying, all right, we're gonna make
this run and we're gonna be dangerous once we get
some momentum going again.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
But how does this affect you personally?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
You lose to Michigan again, and you know that topic
in Columbus in that state, and you know, you're you're
I don't know if you're fighting for survival or what
tell me your emotions where you lose to Michigan again
and you know the importance of what that means.

Speaker 12 (19:45):
Yeah, I mean, certainly you know there was obviously disappointment
amongst all the other emotions, but you know, once those
things kind of come and go and you have a
couple of.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Days, you have to refocus yourself.

Speaker 12 (20:02):
And as difficult as that was, it was an opportunity
to write an unbelievable story and then the next month
and I felt like it was an opportunity for me
as a dad, as a husband, and as a man
to show my family that you know, when you get
knocked down and you're backed up against the wall, that

(20:22):
you know, it's about how you handle yourself and how
you fight yourself out of these types of situations. And
then and then, you know, for our team, you know,
for the guys on the team and the seniors and
even the young guys to watch, you know, you know,
how you handle yourself and then have something to grab
on to it for the rest of their life, and
then serve as an example for all the Buckeye fans

(20:43):
who you know, certainly you know had ups and downs
this season, but we're able to, you know, see how
you handle yourself when when things get really really difficult,
and I think that really defines people's character.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
It was reported there were death threats how do you
talk to your kids about that, or your wife about
how do you process that?

Speaker 6 (21:03):
I think every year for us it's become.

Speaker 12 (21:07):
Easier to manage when you know, our family first was
named you know, the head coach in twenty nineteen. My
wife and the kids were smaller than we were all
sitting on the bed together, and I've told the story before.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
She said, you know, started crying, said our family's never
going to be the same again.

Speaker 12 (21:23):
And she was right. But that didn't make it easy.
You know, you're expected to win them all, and when
you don't, it's it's tough. But that's because of the passion,
and nobody puts more pressure on themselves than myself and
my family. Nobody wants to win more than my kids
and my wife. So it isn't so much that because
they're more disappointed than anybody could possibly be in Buckeye Nation.

(21:46):
And so we shared the same frustration because you know,
my family and my kids want to win worse than
even I do. I mean, they just that's the way
they're wired, and they love the fans, and so you know,
when you do lose, you know, there's there's a feeling
of disappointment, and you share in the frustration with people
because they love it so much.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
But that's that's also living, you know, your relevant. I mean,
that's that's.

Speaker 12 (22:07):
What makes Ohio State so special is because people care
so much. Now with that comes from some craziness, but
that's okay. It also makes when you win that much
more special.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
What was it like when you saw your family after
you won the title?

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (22:23):
That was, man, that was a special moment.

Speaker 12 (22:26):
You know, something that you know, always remember, just the
fact that you could look at your your family and
your wife and the eyes and say, hey, we did
this thing together, and they did.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
They were a big part of it.

Speaker 12 (22:38):
And we know where we were about a month and
a half ago and where we are right now, and
it was pure joy.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Like you mentioned earlier, he's Ryan Day, head coach of
Ohio State National Champs. Take me back to the third
and eleven call. Who makes the call and was what
was the other option in that situation?

Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, we were trying to run down the clock. We had.

Speaker 12 (23:05):
There's a point in the game where we're up by
multiple scores and you start doing the math on it
and you're like, man, if we can just run out
a few minutes, you know, each time we have the
ball and continue to get some first.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
Downs, and we could just you can milk this thing
and win.

Speaker 12 (23:18):
And when you're talking about being that close to a
national championship, you know you're holding on real tight. Maybe
held on a little too tight. But on first and
second down, we were gonna run the ball. We thought
about throwing it on second down because we saw a
man the man coverage on the outside, and you know,
wanted to keep the clock running. And then they called
the time out and on the headset there's a lot
of back and forth there. Our whole offensive staff, I thought,

(23:40):
did a great job throughout the whole run chips obviously
right there, and and we said, you know, we run
one more time and chew up the clock, and some
guys said, no, let's let's let's call a third down play.
And so we looked at the call sheet and we
saw a play that is one of our bass plays
that we put in day one.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
We're literally it's a.

Speaker 12 (23:57):
Go ball on the outside of the outside receivers and
a middle read by our h and a couple of
checkdowns by the inside guys and say, if we're lucky
enough to get one on one on the outside and
when we were launching that thing up away from the
free safety, and we had worked hard on that route
in particular because we knew we were getting a certain
technique in the game, and so when we saw it,
you know, our eyes lit up, so the wills and
certainly had to be executed.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
But it was like in slow motion.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I was gonna say, what's it like when that ball's
in the air?

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Slow motion?

Speaker 12 (24:25):
Just like holding your breath knowing that if we catch
this thing, we're probably national champs. And there's an unbelievable picture.
It's a still photo from the sideline from the other way.
You can see our entire sideline as the balls in
the air, and just the look of everybody's face on
that sideline is amazing, just because everyone can see like,
we catch this ball, we're gonna be national champs.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
It was quite a moment.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
How difficult is it to keep your roster together? There's
a report that Jeremiah Smith offered four and a half
million dollars. Like Ohio State doesn't usually lose players, but
all in today's nil and transfer portal, everybody's fair game.
So how do you go about having conversations or retaining

(25:09):
some of your players.

Speaker 12 (25:11):
I think the first thing you have to bring in
great people and great families, but you also have to
value them and try to do everything you can to
get what they deserve and what's fair. But there's also
something to be said for being around a program like ours,
and you know, you think if it's all equal, you
know we'll have a chance to to get our share

(25:33):
of guys.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
But but it is different. There's no question.

Speaker 12 (25:37):
I think as coaches were all looking for a little
bit more guidelines on this. I mean, everything is so
gray right now, and.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
How does that work though, coach that let's say I
wanted to talk to Jeremiah, Let's say I'm Georgia. I
want to talk to him, like, how does that go
about that you get in front of somebody or you know,
you put a price tag?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
And is there tampering and college football?

Speaker 12 (26:01):
I think one of the big issues that we have
in across the board in college football.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Right now is enforcement.

Speaker 12 (26:09):
I mean, you just you know, you know some of
the stories of some of the things that have gone
on just you know, within the last couple of years
or even in the past, but enforcement is really strained
right now, and so until we start enforcing some of
these rules. Like you said, I mean, people can just
call someone's agents or someone's parents and offer them a

(26:30):
certain amount of money and then it goes from there.
And that's just part of it. I mean, there's so
many other things that come in place. So that's one
of the things to me that I think we've got
to get addressed in college sports, in college football is
enforcement because right now there's virtually none, and it's it's
gotten worse as time has gone on.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
When's the last time that NFL team reached out to you?

Speaker 6 (26:56):
You know, they don't really reach out to me.

Speaker 12 (26:57):
They would reach out, I guess to my agent, and
that happened sometimes, but you know, we've not really engaged
because I love Ohio.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
State and I want to be here as long as
I can.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
So that's not a goal.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
No, that's not a goal.

Speaker 12 (27:13):
It's not a goal, and I wouldn't say that, I
wouldn't consider that somewhere down the line. But my son
is a sophomore in high school, my daughters are in
middle school. They love it here, and you know, I
want to be here, you know, through there, through there,
you know, run through high school and then you know,
see what the next phase brings. But but like I said,

(27:34):
you know, once the confetti fell, that was it.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
It's on next year.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
I know.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Do you get a vacation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll have
We'll have some time.

Speaker 12 (27:43):
But but it's not like, you know, we're going away
to Tahiti for a week.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Were you on the phone to recruits after the national title?

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Recruits and and you know are our current players? And yeah,
that night.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I mean, that's a great Saban would do that.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
He'd win a national title, get on the phone and
say to a recruit, hey, you could be celebrating with us,
confetti probably in his hair.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Did you do that?

Speaker 7 (28:10):
No?

Speaker 6 (28:10):
But you know what's interesting is the timetables changed. So
the early signing day.

Speaker 12 (28:15):
We had one hundred and forty five guys in our
team this year, and over twenty of them were recruits
that started classes on January sixth, so they were actually
with the team for the last two games. So instead
of the signing day, which should have been happening next Wednesday,
they had signed and were enrolled in classes.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
So like, the timetables changed a lot.

Speaker 12 (28:34):
But you know, we have obviously, you know, been recruiting
the twenty sixth class, which is about another year away.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Where would you put Jeremiah Smith with the other receivers
you've coached.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
Well after the first year, it's hard to put him
anywhere other than one. I think some of those guys
had great freshman years, but not not like this.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
We need to check his birth certificate, Like, how old
do you see, coach, come on?

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Nineteen years old?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (29:02):
Yeah, but he's special and we knew he was special,
and his maturity is beyond his years physically, mentally and emotionally.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
He's a special talent, as you know.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Congrats, enjoy it while you can because we know what happens.
So this season starts, then there's the Michigan game. Keep smiling,
never ends, does it?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Coach never does respect.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
That's a Ryan Day, head coach of Ohio State won
the national title.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
And you know what, I got a big kick out
of it.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
They win, and he's trying to get his headset off
and his belt off and he's running down the sidelines
and he just throws it. I don't know where it goes,
but that joy was that's relief, that's true relief. And
you hadn't had that before. But imagine you sit down

(29:57):
with your family. You're trying to explain, hey, our life
has just changed, and like you're not taking the job
of you know, Kansas football. This is Ohio sting and
your life will change for the better and maybe for
the worst. And then you get death threats when you

(30:17):
lose to Michigan, and then you've got to talk to
your family about that, just so they understand. I mean,
Dan Campbell in Detroit got death threats. This is Detroit
where you're going like, thank god I got Dan Campbell
as my coach.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
We almost got there. You had no hope before. Damn.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
They're a parade for But that's you know, that's the
sad reality of this. It is big time business. We
like to make it amateur sports. It is business. That
is business. Unfortunately, Yeah, point.

Speaker 13 (30:57):
And you said the phrase roster retention. Five years ago,
they didn't have to do that that much. Once in
a while, guy transferred, but you had to sit or
there was no incentive to transfer.

Speaker 11 (31:07):
Financially, it's a whole different world.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Well, you wouldn't think Ohio State have to worry about that.
But here's a report by the website on three that
Jeremiah Smith is getting a four and a half million
dollar offer. I sure I'd do the same thing if
I had the money. I got a sure thing. He's
won a national title. You want to get four and
a half million dollars. One of these schools, maybe an

(31:31):
SEC school, gonna say, hey, come on down, come on down,
We'll pay you. All right when we come back, be
long awaited most must win game of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
W app Man, I'm ready for this.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
Me here we go.

Speaker 14 (32:00):
The six I was a tinyghboy, A don't one, no kinder.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
It's changing, all right, let's go for phone calls. What
we learn, what's in store for Monday? My thanks to
all of our guests today. I thought Ryan Day was
very forthcoming there, and uh, you know that's that's a

(32:26):
guy who's won a national title and it's the off season.
Clay Matthews stopping by Booger McFarlane and Rick Stroud covering
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. All right, are we gonna write
Monday's head headline today? Paulie, I think we have to
you gotta do one game, Okay, so you have to
write Monday's headline. Friday, we're also going to play the

(32:49):
most must win game of the weekend. And yes, we
know they're all most must win games of the weekend.
They are just some in my opinion, that might be
more must must win games, and it might be for
players or coaches.

Speaker 11 (33:03):
Yes, there must win because if you lose, you're out
of It's true. He checked.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
That is true.

Speaker 11 (33:07):
But are the Commanders a must win game perception wise? No,
we just proved there's an opening here.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, it's not must win, must show up game. Yes,
must be competitive game of the weekend, the Commanders.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
That's new.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Okay, Todd, I'll start with you the most must win
game of the weekend.

Speaker 14 (33:32):
That would be Josh Allen and the Bills. Must win.
Time to defron the Chiefs and take that next step
of the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Ain't seed O'Connor.

Speaker 15 (33:42):
The Buffalo Bills shock the Kansas City Chiefs with a
thrilling victory, and.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
We're not doing the headline. No, No, it's the most
must win game of the week. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (33:56):
Yeah, I'm going to say that the Bills have to
be the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Ok, and that was my headline here, headline, Wow, somebody
might steal that one.

Speaker 15 (34:05):
Buffalo Bill shock the Kansas City Chiefs, the thrilling victory
and a blockbuster showdown.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Maria chief Concerns Marvin Most must win game of the week.

Speaker 9 (34:22):
The Philadelphia Eagles. They cannot lose to a division opponent
with a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh all right, bringing some heat there.

Speaker 11 (34:30):
Paully the Chiefs.

Speaker 13 (34:32):
For Andy Reid, specifically, he can enter an entirely new category,
his own category. Three in a row. He will likely
not have this chance again. So this is somewhat football
immortality's learning with.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I'm going to say most must win game of the
weekend for Patrick Mahomes because if Mahomes, you're gonna do
something no one else has ever done. And if you
want to get to Brady, you're also going to be
lumped into the Michael Jordan category. You three peted, and
you three peeted in a sport that's harder to three
peat than the NBA is. And I think that's why

(35:07):
Mahomes needs to win this game.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Damn three peat.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, thank you, Todd.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's a great story and it wasn't even a three
piece suit you had on.

Speaker 14 (35:17):
Was it was some linen suit and I banged it
to this guy at some club and I almost spulled
my cranberry juice or whatever on him. Man, he just
looked at me with his very attractive girlfriend. He's like,
damn three piece, what were you going? I was gonna
get my butt kick?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Damn three piece?

Speaker 11 (35:32):
I thought I was gotta get my butt kicks.

Speaker 14 (35:34):
I think within five minutes after that happen, I'm like,
you know what, I have no business being here. I
should just go home.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
All right, let's write Monday's headline today, Todd, I'll start
with you.

Speaker 14 (35:42):
I'm going with three and a No, Chiefs won't play
for three peats set at three in a row. Three
and a No.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Okay, uh see, oh you already gave us your Buffalo
bill one.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I mean I felt like I was pretty strong. No,
it was really good.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
No Fuster showdown.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (36:00):
Irvin Monday's headline today, Jaden Rose Fab five lists Commanders
to the super Bowl.

Speaker 14 (36:08):
Okay, it was a fritzy stretch, but I've been there.
I've been there.

Speaker 11 (36:13):
Paulie, Ooh, that looks like it.

Speaker 13 (36:16):
Earth's Zach takes down the Eagles.

Speaker 11 (36:20):
All right, I'll take that.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't know I got it. I don't know. Yeah,
but it's late in the game.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, I got a beer waiting for me.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
I'll take meat.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Friday, Meet Friday, Great Today. All the recipes available at
danpatrick dot com. The twelve to fifteen podcast, The Wrap
Up Show with the Brg's, will be available. The gambling
podcast from yesterday is available at danpatrick dot com. I
don't know what I'm going to do on Saturday because
I don't know if there's anything going on on Saturday. Sunday,

(36:54):
I know what I'm doing Saturday, I don't know. That
might be one of those where I'm I'm up early
and I'm like, hun, what are we doing today? What
do you need to get done?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Now? She might not.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Realize that they are football games on Sunday, not Saturday.
But I'm going to get some store credit. I'm gonna
be like, yeah, what else do we need to do?
You want me to go grocery, shopping, laundry. I'll do
all of them.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
All right.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
A couple of phone calls in here Sebastian in Utah.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Hey Sebastian, good morning fellows.

Speaker 8 (37:31):
Happy meat Friday.

Speaker 16 (37:33):
I've got two marketing ideas.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (37:36):
First one for Klay Matthews and his gun safety initiative,
they need to have dan Orlowsky as a spokesperson, play
a little video of him running out the back of.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
The end zone, say we all know what this is,
but do we know what this is?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
And he locks up his guns. M Okay.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
Now the next one.

Speaker 16 (37:53):
NBC dropped the ball big time with their commercial where
Jason Tatum is asking if they're metal detectors or on
the set of the NBC studio because he's carrying around
that championship ring. Please please tell me that they called
Jahn Morant to do that job first.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Snarky Dang Sebastian bringing some noise here, Paul and Santa Barbara.

Speaker 7 (38:20):
Hi, Paul, Hey guys, good morning, five to eleven seventy five. Hey,
I just want I just wanted to piggyback a little
bit off with boogerm Macfartha said, you know, he's right,
it's a quarterback league and they're going to protect my homes.
But I'm a ramsman. After watching that game, they hit
Stafford in the ribs a couple of times and took
him out almost.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
They broke his ribs after what I think he broke
four ribs.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
So after watching the Chiefs game, both calls were hit
near the head. It's so to me it's coaching, you know,
treat him like a boxer. Hit him a few times
in the ribs and don't give the refs a reason
to make those calls. You know, you're just giving them ammunitions.
They're going to protect him.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, they made it easier to make that call. And
you know the officials want to get it right. They're
always going to air to this side of caution. But
don't give them something that's so easy to call.

Speaker 13 (39:08):
Yeah, Paul, you mentioned that hit on Jaden Daniels last
week where he's going to the sidelines. I don't think
that was flagged and they hit him chest ribs area.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Well, Lamar, he was going out of bounds and I
thought that that was after he had gone out of bounds,
and they didn't call that one either. Here's some numbers
over under Saquon Barkley rushing yards just according to DraftKings.

Speaker 14 (39:32):
Todd one oh six and a.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
Half, Marvin eighty seven and a half, Seaton seventy seven
and a half.

Speaker 11 (39:42):
Paul ninety nine and a half.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
One twenty seven and a half.

Speaker 14 (39:46):
Nah, damn three piece, damn three piece.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Now they're there.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
They are begging you to take the under here like
he'll never get to one twenty seven and a half.
He might have that in the first half. Jalen Hurts
rushing yards over under Todd.

Speaker 14 (40:06):
Thirty two and a half. That's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Damn three piece over under Josh Allen rushing yards.

Speaker 9 (40:18):
Marvin seventy seven and a half, fifty.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Three and a half, Todd forty eight and a half.
Seaton thirty four and a half, forty nine and a half.

Speaker 14 (40:32):
Right there, Paul, this.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Day in sports history.

Speaker 11 (40:37):
Hold on, I'm freezing.

Speaker 15 (40:39):
Oh Todd nailed that one though, huh.

Speaker 14 (40:47):
That was one off. On the other line, I could
tell you what we learned.

Speaker 13 (40:49):
Here's a nineteen eighty seven Walter Payton and Joe Montana
were the co host on Saturday Live.

Speaker 11 (40:54):
Oh that best TV of all time?

Speaker 7 (40:57):
Todd?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Would you learn today?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Swayne Matthews didn't appreciate acts iident being left off the
Hall of Fame nominees list by the Packers.

Speaker 14 (41:02):
They'll correct that next season.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Seaton by Matthew's kid, No Ponytail, Marvin Fritzy Stole, Paul
Hey looks young. What did I learn?

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Todd?

Speaker 14 (41:12):
There should be a way to earn points to join
Tyler's clubs. We can get a taste of that food
before the last.

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