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April 29, 2024 48 mins

On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP recaps all the action from the weekend. Is it unfair to grade NFL draft picks right after the draft? Is Anthony Edwards the new face of the NBA? Plus, CBS' Rick Neuheisel discusses who the Falcons should've taken with the 8th overall pick. 

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Tonight Celtics at the Heat, Thunder at the Pelicans, Lakers
at the Nuggets, Timberwolves, said goodbye to the Suns. And

(02:14):
now you start to look at some of these teams
that are on the ropes, the Lakers on the ropes,
the seventy six ers, the Bucks, the Pelicans, and what's
next because this is usually what happens when you lose,
you get eliminated. Now we assess your team as we
move forward. We did this with the Warriors, and we're
going to do that with the Phoenix Suns. Today Caves

(02:35):
Magic tied it to a piece. Celtics up two to
one on the heat Clips mAbs. That's tied at two
games apiece, and Draft Day is over. If you're going
to hand out Draft day grades, we love to do
this day after a couple of days after Oh, what
grade would you give the Falcons? Well, I give an
incomplete right now, because if I'm basing this off, what's

(02:57):
going to happen in three years?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I can't give you a grade. Now.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I can look at the strategy. I can grade the
strategy of the Falcons. I can grade the strategy of
the Lions. Last year, Remember they took a running back,
everybody said too high. They took a middle linebacker and
they got a tight end out of Iowa, one of
the worst offenses in NCAA history. They all worked down

(03:22):
so when you grade, I can grade the Bears, I
can give you an A or Washington. I like what
the commanders did, but it's also where are you're going
to be in two or three years, because the strategy
of drafting somebody now and maybe it's not the right
person now, maybe they'll be the right person. Like would
I have drafted Drake May five as the Patriots. No,

(03:45):
I wouldn't, just because I wouldn't do that to another
rookie quarterback. The strategy behind that that felt like because
I was told the Giants were interested in going up.
There were two teams, at least two teams interested in
going up knocking on the door with the Patriots because
everybody knew Caleb Williams would go one, Jaden Daniels two,

(04:05):
and were the Patriots open for business?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
The Giants were interested.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
The Giants weren't interested in JJ McCarthy's I told you
last week, I thought that was his smoke screen, and
look he found the right place.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
You're going to Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I do think that they gave up a little bit
more than I thought to go get him, bow Nicks
falls to Sean Payton. Let me see if he can
sprinkle some of that Drew Brees magic on him and
make him a franchise quarterback. But when you start to
look at what's the grade I'm going to give you now,
love what the Bears did now in three years from

(04:41):
now might.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Be like, what were they doing? Why do they take
that guy?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean, I like Justin Fields when they took him,
it just they didn't surround him with any talent. So
I could give them a good grade on getting Justin Fields,
I could give the franchise a bad grade on what
they did surrounding him. The same with the Patriots. Drake
may may be a franchise quarterback. He better be, but
are the Patriots going to surround him? That's really the

(05:07):
key for success, all right? Eight seven seven three DP
show email address VP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle
at dps show. We will hear from Joe Lnb, Kevin Durant,
and Lebron James coming up. By the way, the point
spreads for tonight's games entertainment purposes only. The Celtics are

(05:28):
favored by ten and a half against Miami. Oklahoma City
favored by five against the Pelicans, and the Lakers are
getting seven and a half against the Nuggets. Here's Lebron
talking about the big win over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
But only opportunity for us is just to play the
next game. And we've given ourselves another life. I'm we
give ourselves another lifeline. And it's a one game series
for us, you know, so you know Monday's game. I
believe it is Monday. Yeah, Monday's game is the most
important game in the season for us, and we understand
that and we know that. So you know, Saysteak, you know,
if you lose, you you're done. If you win, you

(06:03):
keep lost.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Okay, Yeah, they got a lifeline. They got the win.
I'm surprised that Denver is favored by seven and a
half because I would have thought named Jamal Murray is
not one hundred percent, but I would have thought, Okay,
got a little momentum here, Dangelo Russell playing well, ad
go on toe to toe with Joker?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Can Lebron be Lebron? Can they win another game? Sure?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I didn't think they were going to win the series,
but I didn't think they were going to be swept,
although it looked like they were going to be swept.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yes, Marvin, I texted you guys in our group chat.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
They were up by the Lakers were up by ten,
and I was like, the Nuggers are winning this by five.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Speaking of text messages over the weekend, hopefully random text messages,
Fritzie sends me a text message Cabs Magic and then
he's telling me what's going on, and I go, no, no,
we're not doing that.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I do understand.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
It was Sally after dinner at two o'clock in about
seventy five degree, where you maybe not watch it.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I was like, nope, I don't todd know.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
All the more reason to give you guys an update
on the forty one to twelve run that the Magic
went on.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I needed a breather.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
There was there was a lot going on this past weekend,
and I don't even know if I gave you the
assignment to watch the Cabs in the Magic do not.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Okay, somebody had to watch it, and thank you too.
I took it upon myself. Yes, thank you.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
We could speak intelligently at length about that particular series, all.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Right, Satan, let's pull question today and then we'll get
into Anthony Edwards saying goodbye to the Phoenix Suns. And
who's gonna be with the Phoenix Sons? Neck there? They
are a mess right now. They were all in spent
a lot of money and basically can't trade anybody. You're
gonna have three guys making at least fifty million dollars
for the Sons, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Bradley Beal.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And you're in a really really competitive conference there where
you're getting older and everybody else is still younger.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
All right, Seaton, let's pull question today.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
Well, I know you said we're gonna get into that later,
but we could start right there. Okay, the team is
in worse shape going forward, these Sons, the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I would throw in the.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
Sixers in there too. Yeah, I don't think the Sixers
are in great shape. We could also put the Lakers
in there. Yeah, they're not getting any younger. No, they're
not Sons, Warriors, Sixers, Lakers. Well, let me start with
the Suns because they just got eliminated. They got swept.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
So Devin Booker's Supermax contract kicks in next season. He's
due forty nine million. Durant third year of a four
year deal forty nine million Bradley Beal five year, fifty million.
So that's one hundred and fifty million dollars right there.

(08:50):
With those three and luxury tax issues and all of
that gobbly gook. Plus you start to look at, you know,
what's going on in the West Oklahoma City, in Minnesota
and Denver. They're still going to be really good. Dallas
still has Luca and Kyrie. Clippers without Kawhi, they're really

(09:10):
good Pelicans. Okay, it's a learning process. The Kings are
still really good. Memphis is going to get John Morant
back next year. Imagine if san Antonio added a couple
of pieces there with Victor Wan Bayama. So if you're
the Phoenix Suns and you got eliminated, you got swept

(09:30):
and all of a sudden, what can you do? Well,
the person that you might have to trade is Devin Booker,
But with a no trade, you're gonna have to ask him, hey,
do you want to relocate? So we got to get
rid of our best player to get better, because who's
going to take Durant?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Could Durant be that third guy on a younger team?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Could he help now?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't know if he wants to do this but
like brad Beal, I never understood it. Bradley Beal was
one of those guys you'd see in a wizard's uniform
and you go, oh, okay, getting twenty five a night.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well he seemed fine getting twenty five a night.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
And you know, nobody bothers you, nobody cares, the ESPN's
not doing a feature on you.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
But eh, Bradley Beal. Now all of a.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Sudden, you play with the Sons and people are going,
let me see what you got. Yeah, these games are
on TV. People care about this. And then you're watching
and you're going, this isn't good. And then Kevin Durant,
Frank Vogels, he just got there. I think he's got
a five or six year deal. And then Durant said

(10:41):
he didn't like how.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
He was used this year.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
So you start with the Sons, that's a mess. And uh,
here is Devin Booker talking about what happened.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Once you got to the finals.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
It was that's all you want to do was get
back to the finals and compete for a championship. So
how has these years since been frustrating? Where you go
through a season, get back to that place you want
to get.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Back to well, I want to win it.

Speaker 8 (11:10):
You know, I don't want to get back and you
know it's a tough league. At the end of all this,
you know there's going to be one winner, and everybody
that doesn't win, it's going to go into somewhat of
a panic mode and feel like they have to make
changes and do this and do that. But you know,
I think over time, you know experiences, you know the

(11:31):
best teacher, So you know, the more that you can
spend time together and you know, feel this hurt together
and go through it together, you know, the better off
you are in the future.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
All Right. I don't know if every team goes into
a panic mode, but if I'm the Phoenix Suns and
you're going to have the highest salary cap, I think
that I would go into a panic mode. And you
got a new owner, he thought, all right, I'm going
to bring these players. We got Durant. He said, we
got the best team in the NBA. He said, well,

(12:00):
got to see it play out what we did. And
Anthony Edwards is here, man, he is him that guy.
He might be playing in Minnesota, maybe not the hotbed
of basketball and the focal point and getting nationally televised games,
but he is must see TV and Ant man is

(12:20):
not afraid of anybody. Here, Yeah, here is Kevin Durant
talking about one of the futures of the NBA. So
impressed with Aunt.

Speaker 9 (12:30):
My favorite player to watch, just grown so much since
he came into the league at twenty two. Just his
love for the game just shines bright. And that's something
that's probably that's one of the reasons why I like
him the most, because he just loves basketball. He's grateful
to business position, He's taking advantage of every opportunity he's gotten,
love everything about at everything and be watching him.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Going forward and you know, you.

Speaker 9 (12:52):
Know he's gonna call out there and play extremely hard
every single night. But it was really impressed with him,
and there's gonna be somebody else following for the rest
of his career.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Durant's not retiring, is he's It almost sounded like and
before I go, I'd like to mention some of the younger.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Guys and Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Edwards has got charisma, he's got riz as the kids
like to say, and he rises to the moment literally
he does. You know you're putting up forty you're closing
out the Phoenix Sons and he is yapping with Kevin Durant.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I thought, you know, I didn't know, like I don't.
I'm not a Rudy Gobert fan, but Rudy can play.
And really, you know, there are moments when Rudy Gobert
can shine.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Karl, Anthony Towns, you know, they do have a pretty
good team. It's not just Anthony Edwards and I mean
that's a team that can play, you know, win the
Western Conference this year.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Yeah, Mark, it's crazy. An NBA team with patients.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Now, who knew, Well, here's Anthony Edwards on playing against
the Phoenix Suns.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Kevin Durrants.

Speaker 10 (14:00):
Sure, it's my favorite player of all time. Like I
said last time, it is the best feeling in the
world man to you know, send him home or out,
whatever you want to call it. I don't even think
I outplayed him. He played great throughout the whole series.
But you know my team outplayed his and you know,
to come out victorious is the best feman ever to
beat him because he's my favorite player of all time.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
H Verbal Bouquets being tossed down there in the Phoenix
Suns Minnesota Timberwolves series.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
It's good, it's fun, but you can get this.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Feel of you know, you got win Bayona, you got
Anthony Edwards, like you know, John Moran's not old like
you have a lot of younger players. And then you
start to look at you know, how long is Steph
going to play? And Clay and Dremont KD. You know
certain players where you go, Okay, their window of opportunity
is KD on another team before he ends his career?

(14:51):
I would say probably, So Steph is going to stay
in Golden State, Clay might be on another team.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
And you start to look around and you go, how long.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Can these guys be at least where we thought they were?
You know, with joellenbid and does he feel old? And
I know he's playing on one leg. But if and
I said this earlier in the year, at what point
does or maybe it was last year, at the end
of the season, at what point does Joel Embiid say
I don't want to be here? Or did the Sixers say,

(15:21):
you know what, maybe the process didn't work out, Maybe
we send you elsewhere. I mean, they've had a lot
of players there, they had Jimmy Butler, there for a while.
I like Maxie, they had Harden. I mean, they've tried
it and they've tried reincarnations here. But man, give credit

(15:42):
to the Knicks fans. They traveled over the weekend because
I had to look at the logo at mid court
because I thought, oh my god, wait is this Oh
this is in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Wow. Here is Joel Embiid talking about the crowd.

Speaker 11 (16:00):
Disappointed. We all love our fans. I think he's unfortunate
and I'm not calling them out, but it is disappointing. Obviously,
you got a lot of Knicks fans and they're down
the road. I've never seen it, and I've been here
for ten years. Yeah, it kind of fishs me off,
especially because surely is considers four style, so you know,

(16:22):
they've always shown up and I don't think that should happen.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I love my fans, but they wanted to make some
money and sold their tickets. That was like a Knicks
home game, and Jalen Brunson went off. Anytime Bernard King
or Carmelo Anthony gets mentioned in a stat with you,
you're doing okay scoring wise. It's a guy needs this
to move past. Bernard King, who okay, but give credit

(16:48):
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if this doesn't end well, and it probably won't, you'd
start to wonder, Okay, would they think of doing something?
Would him be think of doing something? Because that's always
the tricky part. Does the team or does the star
initiate something like this? And then the Clippers. I'm watching

(17:10):
the Clippers and I'm going they're up by thirty one,
and I'm going and no Kawhi, And I just kept thinking,
how do the mAbs get down thirty one? As much
as you want to give them credit for coming back
from down thirty one? How did you get down thirty
one at home without Kawhi? Paul George played really well,
Kyrie was wonderful. Lucas said that he let down Kyrie,

(17:33):
but that's one of those games where you go, huh,
how did that happen? All right, so we'll settle on
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DP show email address dpat dan Patrick dot com, Twitter
handle at DP show spent a lot of time first hour,
we talked about the NBA. Timberwolf said goodbye to the Suns.
What's this mean for the Suns? Can they make a move?
Do they make a move? Their salary cap is terrible.
You're gonna have three guys making fifty million dollars a year. Pelicans, Lakers,

(20:26):
seventy six ers, Bucks, all on the ropes, Celtics at
the heat tonight, thunder at the Pelicans, and the Lakers
are getting seven and a half against the Nuggets. Nuggets
are big favorites, but Lakers got their moment. Looks like
here is Lebron James talking about that win they had
over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
But only opportunity for us is just to play the
next game. And we've given ourselves another life and give
ourselves another lifeline. And it's a one game series for us,
you know, so you know Monday's game. I believe it's Monday. Yeah,
Monday's game is most important game in the season for us,
and we understand that and we know that, so you know,
it's that steak. You know, if you lose, you you're done.

(21:07):
If you win, you keep going.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Okay, the fact that it's the most important game of
the year and he didn't know what day it was
and uh, Monday playing Monday, Yeah, most important game.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
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Speaker 4 (21:19):
He knows He's going to kancun on Tuesday. That's what
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Speaker 2 (21:22):
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(21:42):
good buddy Rick Neuheisel, one of the smartest football people
I know. I'll get his thoughts on the philosophy behind
the Atlanta Falcons. And as I said in the first hour,
we love to give grades. We love the immediacy, like
I got to know right now, how did we do?
And I would caution you with that because your first
round is where people think and that's where you get

(22:03):
most attention, most eyeballs. But your teams are built in
the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round. That's where
you build a championship caliber team. You got a guy
in the first round, maybe you got two guys in
the first round, but you need the other players to
kind of fill out that roster. And that's what the
great teams do. I thought the Eagles were incredible what

(22:25):
they did. You know, able to trade get draft picks,
trade down, get the right people that they want. You know,
they had weaknesses, they strengthen those. I mean, that's what
you want to do. And this is where you find
great team. You know, the Packers always draft well, They've
always drafted well. But that's how you build. You fill

(22:45):
out a team. And there were a few teams that
probably would get good grades. There's probably teams that would
say would get good grades, but maybe down the road
they don't deserve that. Or I go back to the
Lions last year. You draft a running back, a middle line,
and then a tight end out of Iowa and they
all contributed. Those are positions for you know, certainly the

(23:06):
running back in the linebacker that you don't take in
the first round, and they did. And then you get
Sam Laporta in the second round with an offense that
was one of the worst in NC Douablea history. But Detroit,
you know, there's their strategy paid off. If you would
have said, what's there great after the draft, they probably
would have gotten cuss like what are they thinking? You

(23:26):
could have got Jamir Gibbs later. You know you're drafting
a middle linebacker. Nobody does that. But you see what
they did, how they contributed. And that's why when the
Falcons and you say Michael Pennix, I'd give them an
incomplete because he's the key, he's the eighth pick.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Overall, I can't grade you.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I guess if you asked me in three years, then
I could give you a grade for that.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah. Seen sounds a lot like.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Right now like you're flirting with a draft winners draft
losers poll question, which double poul we could that to
get a draft winner?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
The Eagles he just said they picked up I thought
they did well. I love the two quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
They really needed.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I love what the Bears did. Yeah, like you're
a contender. Now you've got a good team.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
They may have picked up two all franchise players if
this works out the way they wanted it to, you know, quarterback,
wide receiver combo, they could both go down historically for
that franchise.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I think it's wonderful what they did. You know, you
got a guy who's gonna start. You got two guys
that are going to start for you. Now the question
is how good are they this rookie year.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
But I like it.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
I like it a lot.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I think it's really important when it comes to trying
to get that that rookie quarterback. But I want you
playing right away. And JJ McCarthy, if I'm Minnesota, you
know i'm gonna I'm gonna have him sit out September
October is when I'm going to say to JJ McCarthy,
let's see what you got a little bit here. But

(24:54):
but you might even say, hey, look, Sam Darnold's playing, well,
we don't need to And then maybe JJ McCarthy sits
for half the year. But the Bears don't have that
quarterback where you go, well, he's going to start, and
then Caleb Williams will work his way in. But you
know you're looking at the Raiders. The Raiders are stuck
with who they have. Yeah, New England, what do you

(25:16):
do there? Are they going to have that open competition?
I don't know is Bailey Zappy even going to make
the team there? But you got Drake May there, Jayden Daniels,
do you start him right away? I love to have
a quarterback sit and just get caught up with the
speed of everything that you see because you can watch
on tip. When you watch on the sidelines, then you understand.

(25:42):
Now you got to be sharper sharp sharp sharp sharp, quick,
quick quick quick, quick quick. And in college you don't
want to do that. It's like, let me take a
little spin here, not there over here. Hey, you don't
have that opportunity. And I think being able to watch
it in real time, learn a little bit, and then

(26:03):
I'm going to ease you in. I mean, it's some
of the greatest quarterbacks in history didn't do well when
they started to right away. Now they might have said
or they might say, hey, I'm glad I did. But
if I would have said, hey, just sit a little
bit here. Now, two of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
Three of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, Mahomes, Brady Montana.

(26:28):
They didn't start right away, and I think that they
really benefited from that. I mean, Elway started, didn't play well,
Peyton started, didn't play well. These are two of the
greatest quarterbacks, top ten quarterbacks of all time. You know,
Aaron Rodgers sat probably too long, but he did sit.
Jordan loves sat and now you know he's your you know,

(26:49):
one of your top ten quarterbacks. So everybody has a
different philosophy when it comes to this, but if I can,
even though you're running pro style offenses, they're also hunting
pro style defenses when you go against them. You don't
have that in college. It's rare when you go like
Michigan's defense was great this year. By the way, Michigan

(27:11):
the all time leader now and players taken in a
single draft, I think I think they had fifteen. Does
that sound right? That's hard to do, but I think
Michigan may have set the record for most players drafted. Yeah, Paul, do.

Speaker 12 (27:26):
You see that the Jets got your guy quarterback Jordan
Travis of Florida State sneaky in the fifth round.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I love the pick, but it's because I really like him.
I don't know how healthy he's going to be had
the season ending injury that of course hurt Florida State
in the playoffs, but he seems like a classy kid.
You're going to sit for a year or two and
he could benefit from that. So that was a nice

(27:52):
little pick there. Patriots drafted Joe Milton and you know,
the kid out of Tennessee whoever, but he says has
the strongest arm of the draft.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Kind of interesting there.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah, you know who had a maybe uh potentially had
a really great draft as the Steelers Stellers. Yeah, they
picked up a bunch of players at a bunch of
different positions. None of them are like that superstar, huge name,
but they're all like they got like the best center
in the draft. They got, you know, like a great
number two wide receiver. They got a you know linebacker

(28:28):
that is like a classic Steelers linebackers. Like they seem
to really find their guys throughout the whole draft.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, we get caught up in oh, I don't know
that name, or if you said, who's going to be
with you and get a second contract? If you if
you do the numbers. It's offensive lineman, center, guard, tackle,
because if you're looking at guys who bust the least,

(28:57):
if that's the correct way to say it, it's offensive
line or a center, and then maybe it's a defensive lineman.
But that doesn't mean that they go high in the draft.
It's you get a center or you get a tackle,
and you go, all right, I'm not gonna worry about
that guy. Those are the guys who get second contracts
more so than any other position.

Speaker 12 (29:19):
Yeah, Pauline, I love what the Bears did. Quarterback, wide receiver,
off of the tackle. We got this new offense. We're
spending DeAndre Swift. But if it doesn't work out, we're
going to draft the punter in the fourth round and
had the best punter in football. We're ready for both
of them. We're ready to punt.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I mean he benefited from the worst offense in college
football because Tory Taylor got to punt all the time,
the star of Iowa, and he averaged like forty nine
yards of kick. Michigan led everybody with thirteen overall players
chosen this past weekend. It's surpassed its previous school record

(29:53):
of eleven and does Alabama have the ult time record?

Speaker 6 (30:04):
You know who's got the most Hall of Famers? Well, actually,
I don't know if that's still true.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
They used to.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
It's a tie and it's not Michigan. So I guess
that means that they just have the most busts in
NFL history. Woh, I'm kidding. I think Notre Dame in
US series. I was gonna say, I think, yeah, that
might be right.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Is Georgia did Georgia last year?

Speaker 12 (30:27):
I've got Georgia in the twenty twenty two draft having
twenty two players plus all right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Fifteen players pick the twenty twenty two draft. Even that,
that's nuts. Fifteen players. That means if you're a starter
for Georgia and you weren't picked in the.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Draft, well you might not have been eligible to be drafted.
So those were that might have been The fifteen guys
who were eligible to be drafted got drafted. So Michigan
had thirteen players selected. It's a good day for Jim Harbaugh.
Let me see rick new high school joint US is

(31:02):
coming out. Had a great weekend all kinds of sports,
and then my wife surprised me with Billy Joel tickets
went Friday night and we were at Madison Square Garden,
whoa packed third row. Yeah, I could see Billy Joel's
set list on his piano. We were that close. And

(31:24):
then they start playing Uptown Girl. I look down the
row about twenty feet away Christy Brinkley dancing. No way, Yes,
you're joking. No, Christy Brinkley was down there with one
of her daughters. And then Christy Brinkley, Billy Joel's daughter,
also sang two songs. And I get there and this

(31:47):
guy comes out from backstage and he's got a Dan
Patrick show t shirt on and he's walking and my
wife goes, I think he's coming over here, and he
came over handed me a couple of Billy Joel tar picks,
and he said, I'm a big fan of the show.
I said, how did you know? He goes, you said
this on the show. You were going, I go, But

(32:08):
you didn't know where I was sitting, you know, because
we paid for the seats. And he said, I found
out where you were re seated. And I go, okay,
play for two and a half hours and gets done.
We're getting ready to leave. The guy who works for
Billy Joel might have been a guitar tech comes out
and hands me the set list that was on Billy's piano. Yes,

(32:32):
and I go, that's awesome. I said, can I get
him to sign it? And he said he's already in
his car out the door, and I said, okay, he goes,
but I'll get him to sign it and then I'll
send it into the man cave and I go, okay,
we'll frame it now. I did have some beverages and
this is in knock on the Madison Square Garden and

(32:53):
their prices, I mean, it's expensive.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I get that. But I ordered a double jack and coke,
which I never do.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
But I thought, you know what, I need a little
caffeine here because Sugar l Dan doesn't stay up too late.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
And all of a sudden, you know we're living here,
and out town sings this song. Yeah, the Pano Man.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
A double jack and coke? Tod, how much do you
think a double jack and coke cost me?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
At the garden? Friday night? Twenty six thirty nine?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
All right, Seaton, no co Yeah, I was gonna go
twenty seven to fifty night.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Marvin thirty one dollar, twenty four dollars.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I looked. I think it was correct. It was forty
three dollars.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Forty three dollars for a crappy poor Yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Get a hot dog and popcorn with that drag.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
No, forty three dollars, yes, good grief.

Speaker 12 (34:03):
You could have bought probably two bottles of jack from
the massive.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Oh yes, I had two double jack and coke. Good greey.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
I'm doing the math.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
I think that's eighty six pous yes, yes, and a
tipt You know how much money they're making on each
of those A lot? About eighty two dollars on that
one transition.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yes, because if you take the Coca cola and the
jack and okay, maybe it costs you two dollars, not
even maybe a buck fifty.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
So yeah, they they made they made some money on
these smokes, dude, that is. And then I run into
a woman from Florida.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
She's standing there waiting, you know, to get a drink,
and uh, I said, oh the first time, Billy Joel,
And she said I think she said, yeah, she goes,
but I'm not from here. I live in Tampa. But
you know, I think my boyfriend's up to something here.
And I go, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
She goes, I don't know. He keeps talking to.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Other people, and I think I'm getting engaged, and so
I go, oh, okay, and so I said, well, uh,
I'll look for you on the jumbo tron. And then
she goes, oh, I don't know if they'd put me
up there. So we're watching the concert. Next thing I know,
my wife goes, hon, look she's holding up her ring finger.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
She got engaged during the show.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
So the woman I'm talking to while we're getting drinks
is holding up you know. They put her up on
the jumbo tron. All right, good stuff? Yes, hunh.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
And she had been waiting for the longest time for
her like a.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Little Billy Joel there, thank you, Yes Marvin.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
What song was playing when they showed her on the
jumbo tron?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
I have no idea, no idea.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Is there like a Billy Joe song that's super romantic
that gets you like, you know what? I love you
so much? Bet m.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
We didn't start the fuck I love you just the
way you are would be nice to play?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, okay, maybe maybe don't go changing. Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe it was Uptown girl. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Ooh, was that sexual player just killing it.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
His band was awesome, awesome, awesome.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, it's one of those where you go wow, and
I mean he he's the entertainer, but they were.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
They were wonderful. Yes, polling, I did the math.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
A bottle of Jack Daniels.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
A bottle of jazz will cost.

Speaker 12 (36:29):
You less than twenty bucks, especially if you're getting in
a bulk and you're working MSG. So there's eight double
shots in each bottle, So like sixteen shots or eight
double shots eight.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Times forty three is three hundred and forty four bucks.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
That's okay, it tasted great in the moment. It tasted great.
Half of them Texas. Yeah, and you know, when you're
getting a double, I like to keep an eye on
if you give me just a little more than a double.
And they didn't like if you got the shot, you
know where you're going. Okay, I'm gonna I'll be like,

(37:03):
come on, give me on top it.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Up there a little bit.

Speaker 12 (37:05):
They have the thing on the top of the bottle
that controls.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
No no, no, no no no. It was right there
in front of me. Yes, ton, does I say.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
Big shot on the menu because that would kind of
make sense for I Billy Joel.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Cuts yeah, thank you to yes.

Speaker 12 (37:17):
Well, you know, guitar players throw out picks to the crowd.
Drummers throat sticks sometimes, what could billy Joel throw it?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Piano? He threw out a piano.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I felt bad to that woman,
unlucky fan. Yeah caught it. Wow, he kept playing though.
All right, let me take a break. Rick new Heisl
will give a drink like that.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
You're going to be moving out of your apartment if
you can't afford it, no more, don't good luck, turn
on the life back on that.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Don't encourage Fritzy. Don't encourage him.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
You didn't stop the fire just now.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I did send pictures though, little clips from the show
I did for I love that you did that.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I know you did, and I need a river of
dreams to pay for all that. Let me take a break,
Take a break, take a break, and folk.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Rick new Heisel will give us the logic behind the
falcons right after this on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks
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(38:26):
the Peacock Act. Rick new Heisl said, to join us,
I just saw where Matt Ryan is joining the cast
of CBS Sports the NFL Today, and then I was wondering,
that's a pretty crowded set there. This according to Michael McCarthy,
I believe that's a front office sports Phil Simms and
Boomer a Science and are both leaving the show, so

(38:48):
that leaves us with JJ Watt, James Brown, Nate Burlson,
Bill Cower, and then I know they're interested in Jason Kelsey.
Don't know if they're adding any body else there. Jason
Kelsey's going somewhere, and it feels like there's a lot
of opportunities there, whether it's CBS or Fox, NBC Football

(39:08):
Night in America, maybe other But Matt Ryan is going
to join the NFL Today with JB Nate, Bill Kauer,
and JJ. Rick Neuheisel, CBS Sports College Football NFL analyst.
He was at the draft and Uh, always great to
talk to you, Rick, Thank you for joining us. I'm

(39:29):
going to put you on the clock. You are the
GM of the Atlanta Falcons. With the eighth pick, the
Falcons are taking who I think you had to give
either another weapon to Kirk Cousins. There were I mean
Roma Doonsay was there, right, That's why would have been
my pick, Roma Doonsay. But with I'm not going to

(39:51):
second guess him. I think the quarterback position is so
vital and having played with what they believed without one
a year ago, here was a guy that they believe
in and have a great career at Michael Pennix. You
don't know how long you're going to have Cousins, given
his age and the fact that he went down with
in Achilles last year.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I understand the pick.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I just wonder about how you've divvied up the resources.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, I just don't get it.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I know that people are trying to give this take
three years. Hey, he's going to be your future. Okay.
The NFL is about now, no question. Okay, are you
trying to tell me there aren't going to be any
good quarterbacks in the next three years that you go, gosh, no,
we got our guy, and I know you might not
be in that position. The Falcons select eighth every single year, Rick,

(40:41):
So I would have done something. First of all, I
wouldn't have brought in Kirk Cousins. I wouldn't have done that.
If in my mind we were going to take a
quarterback or there's the potential for that quarterback, I would
have found something to play quarterback. If I'm viewing the
future here, it's not about now, then don't worry about

(41:02):
getting your quarterback now. You know, it feels like there's
two different messages here. Hey, we want to win now
one hundred million dollars Kirk Cousins. Hey, but we got
our future here. We didn't help the quarterback we just
brought in. And that's what makes this pick messy. That's
what makes this pick messy and why it's the subject
of so much debate because you've devoted so many of

(41:23):
your resources hundreds of millions of dollars to Kirk Cousins
and the position, and we all know in the NFL
you only have so much of a pie and to
be effective as a quarterback as he just was in Minnesota.
The reason you paid him that kind of money is
the weapons that he enjoyed right there in Minnesota and
what he does in terms of distributing to them. And

(41:44):
here was Roma Doonsa to go along with Drake London,
to go along with b Jon Robinson, to go along
with Kyle Pitts. All of that would have been a
beautiful thing. But now you've said, no, we don't need Romadonsay,
we're going to get a guy that's going to be
his understudy and be the guy that takes his place.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
That to me was a little risky.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Who should be more upset today, Kirk Cousins or Michael Pennix.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Oh, Cousins.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Michael Pennix is going to get paid, and Michael Pennix
is going to have the luxury that most first round
quarterbacks don't get, which is the ability to learn from
the sideline. Yeah, but he's ready to go. I heard
the most pro ready of all these quarterbacks. If he
goes to the Raiders, he starts right now, he's going
to wait three years. Best case scenario, Man, I would

(42:31):
be upset.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I don't think so. I think he's going to be fine.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Listen, we just watched this experiment with Jordan Love. Jordan
Love just had a nice year. Everybody's believing that Jordan
Love's future is you know, a beautiful mosaic looking forward
to what he's going to produce. But do you think
that was the right choice for the Packers. I know
that Rogers didn't play well prior to that, and then

(42:56):
they draft him. I thought it was the wrong pick.
It turned out to be correct in the long run.
You had Rogers in his mid thirties and you didn't
help him. All the people here when I was with
them in Detroit said it was the ron wolf theory.
Always have a great one in the wings, and obviously
Terry Fontineau somehow believes the ron wolf theory. We're talking

(43:21):
to Rick new Heislal, CBS sports college football analyst, former
head coach. If you were a running back in high school,
would you want to stay a running back in high school?
If you thought about that, you were going to be
a special football player. I'm curious what the running back
position looks like in ten years from now in the
high school level.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
That's a fascinating question.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Well, the first trickle down effect of what's happening in
the NFL, it's guys are going to stay in college.
That the name, image and likeness money in college is
going to be more enticing. Let me get a few
more years of this particular bonanza and enjoy that. But
that's the owner to that, is you tread off the tire. Right,
there's not and how much time am I going to get?

(44:06):
I don't believe there's second contracts waiting for running backs.
So I think you've got to strike while the fire's
hot and take advantage of where you're going to be
compensated and feel good about how you're being used. But
you're right, people in high school are going to say,
let me play corner, let me play wide receiver, let
me play quarterback. Those are the three positions. As you

(44:29):
saw the whole first round. The game is a matchup game.
Anybody that's got a one on one matchup a corner,
a wide receiver, an edge rusher, or a tackle. Those
one on ones. That's where the focus was all first round.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's kind of interesting though, when you look at just
how much and maybe this is an anomaly with all
of the offense that was selected, even the drop off
in quarterbacks, Rick like after the first round, one hundred
and thirty seven picks without that's an old time right, Like,
it was so top heavy and I don't know if

(45:04):
nil or the you know the pandemic year, that guy's
gone that this was an aberration that you had a
lot of talent and then you didn't really have much
talent after that. Yeah, it's unique, and those guys that
might have been the second and thirds might have stayed.
You know, the COVID extra year of eligibility, which we
saw both bo Nix and Michael Pennock's benefit from that

(45:27):
has become something that everybody loves to do. Right, let
me see if I can go take another year of eligibility,
have a great year, and see if I can enhance
my stock for next season and get paid while doing it.
What was the draft you loved? Which team? I love
the Rams? I love the Rams. I thought Jared Verse.
Obviously everybody had him on their list as an edge guy,

(45:49):
and you know, he's a nice story, that kid who
transfers from Albany grows into this great specimen that can
come off the edge. But Braden Fisk is a hard charger. Right,
you lose Aaron Donald and he's not going to replace
Aaron Donald, but he's got that mentality. Football is life, right.
Blake Korum is an insane kind of guy. He one

(46:11):
of the leaders of that Michigan team that goes fifteen
to oh Cam Kinchen's from Miami is a all, you know,
instinctive safety. I thought they got a lot of good
football players, people that love the game. I'm going to
be watching for the Rams to do something special this year.
If you were programming Hard Knocks this year, which team

(46:32):
would you put on?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh, that's a good one. Where would we go with
Hard Knocks? You know?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Kansas City would be fun. I like that they got
Xavier Worthy, a speedster. Just watching the conversations between the
quarterback there and the young receiver and how to shape things.
They also got the kid the tight end from TCU

(47:00):
watching him get some uh some up close and personal
counsel from Travis kelcey.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
But you don't.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
You don't get Taylor Swift in Hard Knocks. I'm just
letting you know that. Well why not? Why not? I'm
just asking she bakes cookies? I mean, why can't we
have her in Hard Knocks? Do you think got her
everywhere else?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Dan? Do you think the Falcons would be interesting on
Hard Knocks? They would be.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
But I think Kirk Cousins is going to play this
as the gentleman that he is. And by the way,
I think Kirk Cousins is going to be the next
great announcer. I'd listen to him on the Manning Cap.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
You know what. They would prefer he was the next
great quarterback. Just I'm just telling you.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
He's going to have a nice couple of seasons there
in Atlanta, but soon he's going to be hastened off
into a into a television setting and he's going to
be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Hastened to him hastened.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah, Well, Michael Pennix is that the time is coming
from Penix. Good to talk to you as always, Rick,
Thanks thanks for joining us. It's always a treat. Dan
see it out, Buddy, Rick new heisl CBS Sports, College Football,
NFL analysts. Maybe Kirk Cousins could go into the CBS
NFL Today Show, maybe sooner than later since they're making

(48:21):
changes getting rid of Boomer Siasin and Phil Simms. We
did touch on a little bit with Hard Knocks based
off what happened with the draft and free agency. Who
would you put in? We'll give that some thought. All
the dan nets will have a suggestion on the team
that would be great for Hard Knocks. Update the poll
results more phone calls as well, and we'll give you

(48:44):
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