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June 19, 2024 49 mins

On today's Dan Patrick Show, Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio stops by to discuss the amendments to the Comeback Player of the Year award. Arkansas Men's Basketball Coach John Calipari explains why he chose to join the Razorbacks, and Former NBA G Jamal Crawford breaks down the Los Angeles Lakers' options at head coach. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. More phone calls coming up next hour.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Jamal Crawford, Turner Sports JJ Reddick expected to be sworn
in sometime this week as the Lakers new head coach.
Pistons need a new head coach. They fired Monty Williams
with five years and sixty five million dollars left on
his contract. He had a twenty million dollar buyout when
he was the Phoenix Suns head coach. He might be

(00:29):
the highest paid coach in the NBA and he's not
coaching in the NBA. John Caliperi, Arkansas head coach, will
stop by as well, so his Mike Florio from Pro
Football Talk Live co host and NBC Football Night in America.
You can find Mike and Chris Sims on peaconck. It's
the show that precedes hours Monday through Friday. Mike, thanks

(00:51):
for joining us. And of course this is the biggest
story in my opinion this week. The Comeback Player of
the Year award has been sort of redefined or re emphasized.
Now we will never have to worry about a pesky
story like Joe Flacco with what he did because he
didn't come back from anything other than not being any good.

(01:11):
So what is the NFL doing? I know they wanted
Damar Hamlin to be the Comeback Player of the Year
because he came back from dead, but.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Why are they doing this?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well? This has been lingering for a while, and I
actually started when Gino Smith won it DAN in the
twenty twenty two season coming back from sucking. And that
goes back to Ryan Tannehill frankly in twenty nineteen after
his time with the Dolphins and he wasn't very good.
He gets traded, he replaces Marcus Mariota, he plays well,
he's the comeback Player the Year. There's never been any
guidance for the voters on while comeback Player of the

(01:44):
Year means. So they've been trying to make it more
clear that you're coming back from something that caused you
to miss time the prior season. Now, it's still not
hard and fast rule. It's going to be determined on
a case by case basis. I've come up with various
questions that I've been peppering with, like what about this,
what about this, how about this, how about that? And

(02:05):
it again, they're not going to reject ballots. For example,
if Aaron Rodgers did come back last year during the
season after tearing the achilles Week one, comes back and
plays and vaults the Jets to the playoffs. Under this
new characterization, he wouldn't be eligible because it speaks to
injury or illness the prior year. So there's still some

(02:25):
stuff that's got to get worked out. The goal is
come back from injury illness, and they need to have
and they've tried to do this a separate category of
most improved Player. Then you have an award coming back
from sucking and coming back from injury illness. You've got
two separate awards. Why not just do that.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Aaron Rodgers can't be Comeback Player of the Year this
upcoming season if he's great No this.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Year, yes, this year, yes, because he missed almost all
of last year. My point is if he'd come back
last year and played the last five games, which is
all Joe Flacco did, and had taken the Jets to
the playoffs after suffering the two to kill his ten
and I remember there was that talk is he coming back?
Is he coming back? Maybe I'm coming back. If he
had under this standard, he wouldn't have been eligible. But
I'm told they're gonna look at it all case by case,

(03:09):
so we'll see how it plays out. We'll see how
it goes.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I like this is a big deal.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
You know, well, I think it is for the people
who bet on it. It definitely is. And there were
some people, you know, Jake Croucher with NBC. Jake Croucher
had a lot of money on Demor Hamlin winning Comeback
Player of the Year, and when that didn't happen, there's
a lot of people that bought those tickets when it
looked like a no brainer.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's it was the biggest sure thing exactly. He came
back from the dead, Mic, I know.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
But the problem is he played like seventeen snaps on
defense all year, and I think that's what kept him.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
My way, Mike, he came back from dead to play
seventeen snaps.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yes, maybe he should have won it in twenty twenty
three or twenty two, the year that it actually happened.
I don't know. I mean, because he lived it was
week seventeen. He lived after that could argue he should
have been the Comeback Player of the Year.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
That why don't you name the award after him?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Mike, I think even though his case didn't cause this.
I think it accelerated it and cemented it and ensured
that the AP was going to make it clear for
the first time. We do have guidance on what it
means to be the comeback.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Then goodness. By the way, what is the news with
Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
A lot of these shows, and I know it's it's
it's got to be clickbait that their metrics will tell
them talk about Aaron Rodgers? Is there anything that fans
should really be aware of, concerned of with Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Dan, some of us are still trying to make money.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
My bad.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
At least you admit it, Mike. At least you admit
it that it's come on, I can't. I can't do it,
but I're not.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
We're not going to force feed vegetables. When they want cookies,
they want cookies, they get cookies. Baby. Here's here's the
thing that was my big takeaway.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Two things.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
One, I think the Jets handled this whole thing extremely poorly.
Just excuse the guy's absence from mandatory minicamp, or do
the mandatory minicamp the prior week and make the last
week a couple of days of voluntary OTAs then it's
no big deal. This was a strategic and pr blunder
by the Jets to call it an unexcused absence. Secondly,

(05:22):
from Roger's perspective, Hey, don't schedule your trip to wherever
the hell you went in the middle of June. You've
been doing this twenty years. You know when mandatory minicamp
is quite possibly going to be And when he gets
in front of microphones and cameras and he wags his
finger in January about how next year it's got to
be all about winning, not some of the time, not

(05:44):
most of the time, all the time. We got to
get the bs out of the building. That has nothing
to do with winning. Oh you know what, I might
run for vice president and go to the Jets and
I'm going to go on all these different podcasts and
spew these crazy ass conspiracy theories. But that doesn't count
because it didn't happen in the building. He's very good
at crafting a standard and not applying it to himself.
Some would say he's perfectly suited to going to politics,

(06:06):
which I think is inevitable. So that's the other side
of it too. He comes off as hypocritical by not
being there because of what he said in January.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
How would it go if you met Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 4 (06:17):
You not well for me? Not well for me. I
can't wait to turn sixty, Dan, I've done some research.
Most states have laws that protect us once we reach sixty,
so if someone hits us, they get slapped with elder
abuse charges. So I'm going to be even more of
an ass.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I think you're due for an ass kicking, though, Mike.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
I'm gonna be more of an ass when I turn sixty.
But yeah, I would love I think that Aaron Rodgers
and I have some things in common. I'd like to
think I could maybe get through to him and we
can have a real debate. But that's the thing. He
never wants to talk to anybody who might disagree with him.
He goes on all these safe space podcasts and says
all this crazy stuff, and the hosts never say, dude,

(07:01):
you gotta you got to maybe try decaf or you know,
maybe read a different book, or everything is in a conspiracy.
I love a good conspiracy theory. I love one, not
a thousand of them. It can't be that everything is
the product of some massive government conspiracy anyway. Yeah, can
you set it up. Can you broker it? Sure, you

(07:23):
can do it, Milford. I'll come up get him there.
I'll be there and he's not far away.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host, Is there
anything to this Chief's Kansas City, Missouri situation?

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Well, this is great for the Chiefs. Chiefs and Royals
win no matter what, because you've got voters in Jackson County,
Missouri who have said, no, way, know how, we're not
going to extend to sales TAC to renovate Arrowhead and
build a new stadium for the Royals. So fine, what
do you do. We're going to keep our options open. Well,
they're not going to relocate. You just have to go

(07:55):
across the border. This is perfect. This is the great
option for any team that's trying to get taxpayer money.
You get two states that are right on the state line,
and all you got to do is slide across to
the other side and you get what you're looking for.
So Kansas passes, the House of Representatives passes a measure
to pay for new stadiums for both teams. The Senate's

(08:17):
got to act on it, but they're moving quickly. Special
Session off they go. Chiefs have at least through twenty thirty.
Nothing stops them from striking a deal with Kansas. But
I assume Missouri's going to try to come up with
something and whatever it is, Chiefs, it's great. You have
two suitors. They're gonna bid and bid and bid and bid,
and you just sit back and wait for the best
offer and you pick one or the other. This is

(08:37):
great for the Chiefs. They don't have to threaten to move.
They're going to get what they want, either from Kansas
or Missouri.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
What does it mean to the fans with this lawsuit
the NFL is fighting right now.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, it potentially means that the way NFL games are
made available out of market games, games that aren't just
served up on Sunday afternoon by your local CBS or
Fox affiliate, that will be revolutionized. It will be cheaper.
You might be able to buy it one team at
a time if you want the Sunday ticket package, not
the whole thing for the whole season. I've always thought

(09:09):
something seemed off about Sunday ticket. They market it as Hey,
if you're a Packers fan living in Pittsburgh, you can
watch all the Packers game. Well, yeah, you also can
watch all the others because you have to buy all
the others. You got to buy the whole damn thing
every week for every team. It's always seemed wrong to me.
So if this results in a loss for the NFL,
you've got the potential for a major payment that's going

(09:32):
to be made to millions of class members. But the
NFL isn't gonna have to change its ways to avoid
future liability. So that's the And I know the NFL
probably not probably definitely doesn't want me to say this,
but all fans should be rooting for the NFL to
lose this because then true choice at an affordable price
likely will happen for fans who want to watch out

(09:53):
of market games.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
But we're talking about Alec Cart Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
And I mean ESPN was willing to, according to evidence
that came out in this trial so far, pay or
charge seventy dollars for the whole package when the Sunday
ticket was up for bid a couple of years ago,
seventy dollars for the whole year, plus a per team option.
And there's a document where the NFL makes it clear
they don't like that, because the whole argument is the

(10:20):
NFL is fixing the price of Sunday ticket at a
level that is high enough that a lot of people
won't get it and they'll just watch whatever games are
available to them in their local market. So if you
knock that out and you let ESPN, YouTube, Direct TV,
Apple whoever, say we're going to maximize the subscribers to

(10:40):
this thing. We're going to give it away Apple there
was a report at one point was going to give
it as part of their current Apple TV Plus package
at no additional cost. So you can get a lot
more people and a lot more choice for the consumer
if you don't want to watch whatever happens to be
on your local CBS station at one o'clock Eastern on
a Sunday.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Before I let you go this Brandon Ayuk situation, he
keeps saying they don't want him in San Francisco. San
Francisco says they want him. I know that there was
talking Deebo, Samuel and Brandon. I you may be one
of the two being traded. So this is this just
negotiations here?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Well, I think the forty nine ers really want to
hold the band together for one more year, and that
includes Brandon. I who get fourteen point one million in
the fifth year option of his contract from twenty twenty.
They definitely want him for fourteen to one. The question
is how much do they want to pay him? And
I think Dan, as we see the receiver market kind
of start to look like the running back market, where
there's so many great receivers coming out every year, you

(11:35):
have to ask yourself, which guys are going to get
the we're not paying you thirty million a year response
from their team. Look at what Malik neighbors, the sixth
overall pick in the draft taken by the Giants. He's
getting twenty nine million for four years total. So if
you can go get great young receiver, get him under
a cheap contract, then you might say no to a

(11:58):
brandon I. You only the best of the best going
to get top of the market, and I think brandon
Io falls in this no man's land. And hey, Dan,
if there was somebody else that was willing to pay
him what he wants, he would have been traded before
the draft. And now I think he's just trying to
agitate for something because he knows the forty nine ers
an't going to give him what he wants.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
And Trevor Lawrence's deal.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I know Dak Prescott is just saying, all right, but
you know, let's let the cash register go up even
higher here.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
How does this play out?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Jerry Jones going to be make a good business decision
when it comes to Dak Prescott for a change.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
For a change's key because they waited too long to
get him signed to his second contract after his third
season when the window opened, they made him play out
his rookie deal at like two or three million dollars,
which was laughable. Then they tagged him for a year,
and then they realized when they were tagging him the
second time, we're kind of screwed here because he's one
year away from doing the Kirk Cousins thing where he's

(12:53):
going to walk away because we would have to give
him an exorbitant amount to tag him a third time.
So they were four to do a contract that put
them in the position they're now in. Dan They've got
a fifty five million dollar cap charge for Prescott this year,
and if he leaves after this year, they have a
fifty four million dollar cap charge next year, even if
he's not on the team. Their only way to engineer

(13:16):
that and get those numbers down is to extend his deal.
That's where his leverage comes from. What Trevor Lawrence gets,
what Jared Goff got, what Tuatongabailoha might get, it doesn't matter.
Jack has everything in his favor and the Cowboys have
painted themselves into a corner that they aren't willing to
find a way out of.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
That eighteen game schedule is just it's lingering, and it
feels like the NFL puts it out to get kind
of reacting.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Well, you know how this works.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's like, let's let people talk about it and then
you can ask the commissioner to go, well, you know,
we're taking everything into consideration here.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
How real is eighteen games?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I think it happens at the latest with the next CBA,
because when push comes to shove Dan, the owners will
say we want eighteen games, and if we don't get
eighteen games, will lock you out until you agree to
eighteen games. And the players, as we know from twenty
eleven before that nineteen eighty seven with the failed strike,
they will not go a year without football. The owners
will because they already got their luxury yachts and their

(14:16):
billions stashed away here or they're not. I'm not suggesting
there's anything wrong with that. I'm just saying that they
can go without it for a year. You're a football player.
You've got a finite number of years you can play.
We have seen time and again they will not shut
down the sport for a year. So that's the latest
it's gonna happen. They will cry uncle when it's time
for the next CBA. I think the league is currently

(14:36):
trying to figure out is there a way to go
to them now and get them to agree to eighteen
games before the CBA expires, because I think dan what
the NFL is looking at when you consider what the
NBA got on its new TV deals. Yes, the current
NFL deals go through twenty thirty three. The league has
the right to pull the plug after twenty twenty nine

(14:58):
on all of them. I I guarantee you they're gonna
pull the plug because it's not gonna be any worse
than what's currently due to be paid to the NFL
under the media deals. And if you can go to
the table with NBCCBS, Fox, ABC, et cetera with eighteen
game regular season, you get even more great stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Mike is always thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Thanks Nancy.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
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Speaker 2 (16:09):
Final hour in this Wednesday, we'll talk to Arkansas head
coach John Calipari. Sounds weird to say that. Also, Jamal Crawford,
Turner's Sports will join us. He's been working out Victor Weimbanyama.
I was surprised at that. Marvin Goes. I got some
social media pictures where Jamal Crawford's working out with the

(16:29):
Victor and I go, let's get him on the show,
so he'll join us, coming up here in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Celtics prede is set for Friday.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
We'll have a game six Friday in the Stanley Cup Final,
the Oilers over the Panthers five to three. And the
passing of the Giants Hall of Famer Willie Mays at
the age of ninety three. It's strange to say somebody
is far greater than legendary, and to me, Willy Mays
was not legendary.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
He was iconic.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
And there's a difference in that there's certain athletes in
certain sports. You can have a legendary career or you
can have an iconic career. And Willie Mays, as we've
talked about throughout the show, had an iconic career. It
wasn't just he was a spectacular baseball player. It was
he was bigger than just being a great baseball player.
And he came in four years after Jackie Robinson broke

(17:15):
the color barrier. Willie did get some exposure in New
York with the New York Giants and then went to
San Francisco and played in that god awful Candlestick Park,
the Windy Candlestick Park once again, greatest center fielder ever.
And you factor in the winds and Candlestick and he
was still the greatest center fielder ever. Not to mention

(17:36):
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(17:56):
com slash special offers. He is the new coach at Arkansas.
It sounds weird. Does it sound weird to you? Or
do you pass now that you're the Arkansas head coach?
You're You're fine with it? Sounds sounds comfortable. No, it's comfortable. Look,
here's I've been at different jobs, you know. I was

(18:18):
at UMass eight years, Memphis nine years, fifteen years at Kentucky.
It's dog years now, and I loved it. And it
was a great run.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
We helped a lot of families, won a lot of games,
won a lot of league championships, final fours, Elite eights,
national titles switching. I mean they needed to hear another voice.
I wasn't planning on this, but when it came along,
kind of like being a DESPN and then other opportunities
come along and you say, wait a minute, I got
to take advantage of this. Now, let me look, and

(18:53):
over a two or three day period, I'm like, they're
in the sec.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Two.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
They got a great facility, they have a great fan base,
a great building that seats twenty thousand, great home court,
pretty good support as you would know in this corner
of Arkansas. The what's here? And then lastly, I got
to hire my son. No, he's not one of my
top three guys, but he's in. He's on court. He

(19:20):
can go out and recruit a little bit and get started.
And so a lot of good reasons and I'm excited
about it. Let me help another thirty forty families. Then
I'll go into doing a podcast. How about we do that?
But did you did you jump before you were pushed?
Can we be fair about the situation at Kentucky? Yeah,

(19:41):
I don't think that was the case. But and again,
it had nothing to do with fans. Fans you go
to a Nick game and they're playing bad. What are
they doing in the second quarter? They're doing I mean
fans are fans, Kentucky fans are in gauged. They were

(20:01):
exactly what you want in a fan until you lose
a game you're not supposed to lose, and they're still engaged.
So it had nothing to do with that. For me
to do what I'm doing, I needed that tailwind, no headwinds.
We needed to be able to move in what we
were doing. And you know, as far as saying, well
they pushed you out, no, I don't think that was

(20:24):
the case. But again, let it be good for both.
I mean, I had fifteen great years there. Let Mark
popev fifteen great years. Let me finish how I want
to finish. Let me build another program. Let's win another
national championship. Let's help another twenty five families. Let me

(20:44):
let me do this and you can. You and I've
been when you didn't have gray hair. But we've been
doing this a long time. And whether I was at UMass,
you and I you came in and miss jump shots,
I was at Memphis and we were doing this in
Kentucky over the years. I don't know when I was

(21:05):
with the Nets did we do anything?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yes, oh we did. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
After I got fired. Fel How do you feel now?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I think I think I ask you why Kerry Kittles
and not Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Yeah you did that? You didn't that for twenty five years?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
How does Arkansas know you're available? If you're happy at Kentucky?

Speaker 7 (21:31):
A good friend of mine, John Tyson, he and I've
been friends for twenty years. Tyson Chicken, Yeah, twenty years.
Twenty five years. Maybe tried to get me to take
the job when I was in Memphis in two thousand
and seven. Maybe, And at that time, Dan if I left,

(21:53):
I left players like they were there and my assistant
wasn't going to get the job. I wasn't comfortable just leaving.
And that was Derrick Rose, Antonio Anderson, Chris Douglas, Robert
Robert Dozer, Joey Dorsey. I can go on the guys
that I would have left. So he calls me on

(22:15):
a Thursday night. I'm at the Final four and he said, cow,
it's Johnny and I said what's up? And he said,
I need you to meet with the AD And I
said what ad? They said, our a D at Arkansas
and I said, Okay, what are we meeting about. Well,

(22:35):
he wants to talk to you about candidates and the
job and what he's trying to do, and why don't
you meet with him? I said, okay, but I'm leaving
town at one o'clock on Friday, so we got to
meet at eleven eleven thirty and I'll give him an hour. Well,
in the conversation, you can imagine if you think this
is such a great job, why not you? And he said,

(22:56):
give me fifteen minutes to talk about you. And then
I looked at my watch and I said, I gotta go.
I got a guy downstairs who I'm flying with, and
I got to get down there. And he said, well,
I'm not going to do anything till you tell me no.
And then we spent two days and I'll give you
the conversation that change me. Kelvin Sampson and I've been

(23:21):
friends for a long long time. I called Calvin to
check on Hunter, the ad who had been at Houston
with him. Well, he went crazy. I love him, He's
the best. He says, he's at okay, okay, but I'm
having a hard time because I'm going to end up
leaving players and Calvin went crazy, what if you leave,

(23:45):
they can leave, they can go where they want, they
can go with you, they can go pro. What are
you talking about. This isn't ten years ago? And then
he said the one that got me, and if you stay,
they can leave, they can go somewhere else, they can
go pro. This is different. And you know what, that

(24:06):
got me to think in a different way. And within
thirty six hours, I said, you know what, I want
this new challenge. I want to help a bunch of families.
I want to bring something to that state and that
program that explodes the state.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
And let's go.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Let's go do this.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Okay, your recruiting philosophy at Kentucky was well known. Your
recruiting philosophy at Arkansas is going to be what.

Speaker 7 (24:37):
I can't take seven freshmen until these rules change. Last year,
our team was average age was nineteen four. The team
we played against and teams we played against were twenty
four twenty three. We played against twenty six year olds,

(24:57):
So that's nineteen as a freshman and he's twenty six.
So I am still gonna recruit the best freshman, probably
take three or four, not seven. I can't take that many.
You would hope a couple kids will stay and I'll
bring in a couple transfers that are a little bit older.

(25:20):
I don't want to have twelve guys, you know who.
I'm doing this like back in the day, a guy
named Coach Smith, Dean Smith back in the day, recruited
for ten eleven and twelve, recruited specifically for that spot. Now,

(25:46):
there may be injuries, the guy may be better than
everybody thought, he may beat somebody out, but he's being
recruited for ten eleven and twelve. I wont eight or
nine guys on scholarship and il all that and then
I want ten eleven twelve. We got nine on scholarship.
We're adding ten eleven twelve and they'll be good players,

(26:10):
but they're not going to be But it doesn't mean
they can't beat somebody out. It's just I'm doing it
kind of like North Carolina in the mean should I
say seventy five eighty eight, Well he was there till
ninety he was doing it most of his career.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, he's the Arkansas head coach John Caliperry.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Can I have your Kentucky You have.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
To say that now because they don't have any who
I am.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I know Arkansas head coach. He used to coach at Kentucky.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
Let me tell everybody, I'm here with Dan Patrick. You
may not know him, but you're here with Dan Patty.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
We're both Hall of famers coach. We're both we're both
Hall of famers. All right? Can I have your Kentucky gear?

Speaker 7 (26:50):
It's gone already, wait yard sale, come on, tag sail. Well,
it was in mass I sold, I sold it. I
just threw it in my house on my bed on couches,
and all my friends and their kids came over and
take what you want. The best items were the Kentucky

(27:11):
shoes that had UK on them. Gone. Gave a great bear.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Come on, I could have put out in the man cave.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
No, no, no, I got it's gone. It's it's uh.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Why don't you help my family? Always talking about helping
others other families? What about mine?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Why don't you help my family helped you?

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Well, I paid you to come to u Bass and
shoot there.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
So I put I put on an aerial display and
you you just can't acknowledge it. It's okay. Clark Kellogg
was there. Clark Kellogg is a religious man who never lies,
and he'll tell you the truth what happened that day. Okay,
So go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, mock me, go
live living in denial, living in denial.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, that's what you're doing. Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
When Dan Hurley is entertaining the Lakers and vice versa,
your thought was, I really.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
Like Danny, so I wanted what he wanted for he
and his family. But he's in an unbelievable spot and
he has a chance to keep that going. The only
thing I thought that maybe play a part is in

(28:26):
college basketball, at the end of every year, every kid
is a free agent. Everyone. This is like being an
NBA coach. Your season ends, you don't have anybody in
the contract. They're all able to go and go and
do what they want and then the nil knowing how
that's playing out, and Danny, I know. And it was

(28:47):
funny because Danny said, man quit wine and we're all
making all this money. I'm more where. I'm fine here
at Arkansas. But what if I were at UMass, What
if Danny was still at Rhode Island, He'd be saying that,
like to get guys to stay. So that would have
been the only reason that I thought he would say

(29:08):
you know what, I don't want to deal with this.
Some guys have retired. I'm just trying to be the
best at this situation. The playpen we're in. How do
we have the best toys? I mean, that's it isn't
what I'd want, more guardrails. You know, I want kids
to make money. You know high that is. But it's like, Okay,
let's get it organized. Let's get organized, let's get guardrails.

(29:31):
Let's figure out how this we don't hurt kids by
what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, I wonder if we can get to a point
where you sign a two year deal to go to
college and can can can we do something that like
nil deals that your contract is for two years, or like,
is there any give give me a solution.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
You know you're saying, let's solve it. Give me a solution.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
First of all, I've been saying for five years.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Now you're putting up ten fingers. That's ten. There you go,
that's fine.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
That's five.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
Five Pittsburgh five years to play, Yins five years to
play four, five years to play four, which is the
way it was when you played back in the forties.
I mean, you had five years to play for if
you got injured, you got an extra year. If you
got red shirted, you got an extra year. What if

(30:30):
you got hurt three different years? Buzzard luck, my man,
I don't know what to tell you. This is amateur
basketball right now. They just cleared Danca a player to
play football for his ninth year. So I'm playing in
a game last year where the guy making the shots
is twenty six years old. Should have been out of
school three years maybe four. So let's get back. We

(30:53):
can do that now. They said, well, COVID and all stop.
You're giving waivers to everybody five years to play four
solved sixty seventy percent of our problems.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
You know what would have solved a problem is somebody
guarded that guy during the.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
Tray that truth made flow shots and all that. Yeah, like,
let's not go back to that because I'm still sick
over here. She's old way. I told Hunter the aad here.
You know, I'm still hacked off over that game, he said,
And I'm not happy, he said, Well, I'm happy. I'm
happy it happened, you know. So but anyway, there's people

(31:29):
look at Oakland's happy it happened. Yeah, it's the other
thing if you stay at the same school four years,
you get a fifth year. So now it rewards that.
The guys that say, I'm deciding.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Okay, if that kid at Oakland still had another year
of eligibility, would you reach out to him to add
him to Arkansas?

Speaker 7 (31:49):
I wouldn't do that to my good friend. Oh you know,
I'm not reaching out and doing that skill. But he
look and I don't be great a kid to take
advantage of the rules. He should have been playing because
he was allowed to play. But it wasn't just him.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
There were By the way, he was twenty four. Coach,
you said twenty six.

Speaker 7 (32:12):
So who's in your ear? Because you wouldn't I just
googled it, so Jack, yeah, yeah, okay, but again.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Shooters, no shooters. So that's why you didn't know him.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
That's why you did not know him, Like who's hey,
who's that guy out there?

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I wouldn't say you just so you know. No, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
They came to me and said, I need you to
take a look at him. I already have, and don't
tell me to look more at him. I understand. I
saw him shoot three airballs, and you were telling me
he's a shoot.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Once again, that's lying. See now, anything you say I
have to go, he's he lies. He lied about the
guy at Oakland Jack, who's twenty twenty four, twenty six.
See once again, these things hurt you. I'm trying to
help your credibility here. Tell the truth for you all and.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
The risk I had to help me, that's why. But
but the other side of it, with the nil, I
don't know now that they've gone to where they are,
how do you reel it back in? I don't have
the answer. How do you say, well, we're not going
to do as much or you got to sign a
two year deal. I don't have that answer, But I

(33:23):
do know five to play fours the first and it's
a solution that you can do.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Did you change your number?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Because I was on vacation in Italy and I say
I leave the country and you leave Kentucky and then
I never hear from you.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Did you change your number? Did you did you go
big time?

Speaker 7 (33:41):
I wouldn't have called you, but no I didn't.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
You didn't respond to me. You could have texted me.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Oh I didn't see you.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Did Kentucky keep the phone?

Speaker 7 (33:51):
No, it's my phone. I got my own phone. I
got my own email. I don't have a computer, but
I got my own nice though I'm on vacation. Took
time out to say, hey, I was I was there scouting.
Yeah right, yeah, trying to where did you vacation in Italy?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I was Poolia. We're it's in the middle. Yeah, it's
in the middle.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
I'm an Italian citizen too. By the way, I'm a
dual citizen. I got a passport, all the stuff.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I'm trying to get that.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
My wife is Italian, so I'm trying to trying to
get Maybe you could help me on. This is where
you help out a family.

Speaker 7 (34:32):
No, I'm not. No, it's too hard and I'm not okay,
I've done it one time.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
It Oh, let's get Mark Pope on talking to him.
Somebody is going to go a little further this year.
Who goes further this year? Arkansas or Kentucky in the tournament.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Here, we're out of time. We're out of time. Thank you, coach.
Always great to talk to you.

Speaker 7 (34:55):
Thanks you, guys man, always good.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Thank your hair a little bit. You're looking good. Thank you.
You're still doing it. Yeah, looking good. So he's got
to look younger. Gotta look younger. You guys are like
a comedy trip over there.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Man, then I'll look like coach cow. Let's take a
break here. Jamal Crawford is going to join us, coming
up next. What's he doing with Victor Wembenyama? And is
JJ Reddick the right coach for the Lakers? And he's

(35:28):
portrayed in the series Clipped on the La Clippers. What's
it like to watch a show where somebody's playing you?
So we'll talk to Jamal Crawford next year on the
Dan Patrick Show.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
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Speaker 2 (35:51):
More phone calls coming up, John Caliperi and I go back.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
A long, long long way.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Still all working both of us here. He's become one
of my favorites. Loved talking to Jamal Crawford. Turner Sports
NBA analyst won the sixth Man of the Year three times.
Marvin says, hey, you see this picture, Jamal is working
out with Victor Wimbenyama. I go, okay, Let's get Jamal

(36:19):
on and find out how this happened. So Jamal Crawford
joining us on the program. Good morning, Thanks for joining us.
How did this happen with you and Victor working out together?

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Well, we go.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
Back to earlier this season when we had him on
the show and I asked him, you know, because he
had been doing some crazy moves, so I asked him about,
you know, if he could do this particular move, and
he's like, yeah, I've been doing that for years. I'm
like here, okay, and then we hook up at All
Star and I just showed him from freestyle moves and
from there our relationship kind of took off.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Wait what did you show him?

Speaker 8 (36:54):
Well, I showed him, you know, a wrap around move
where he wraps around his body. It's only reserved for
tall guards.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Damn.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
You know, guys with long arms that can pull this off.
And I thought he could take it to the next level.
But it was funny when I start showing him all
the other rookie sophomores on the court, all the attention,
they stopped shooting, they just went over there. I'm like, okay,
let's just keep this surface level because everybody's watching right now.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I kept maintaining during the season he needed a point
guard to put him in positions like it felt like
in the first half of the season he'd get lost
out there, he'd be out of position, he'd get bodied
out of position. But can the Spurs get that point
guard to help him, because that feels like that's the
next step in his evolution.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
They absolutely can, And I could see why it would
take a little bit, because he's such a unique talent
and you can use him so many different places on
the court, right Like, you can use him bring it
up the ball, you can use them in the mid
post here, you can use them in the post. Here,
he can shoot transition threes and do everything in between.
So I understand popping those guys. That's thinking because you
just don't know exactly what you have until you have it.

(37:57):
And even then he can kind of stretch themmagination. But
you're right, Getting that point guard to kind of grow
with him and that fits him would definitely serve them.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
Well.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
If you were advising Luca after what you saw in
the finals, what would you say to him about the
off season and his approach to next season?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
If anything, I.

Speaker 8 (38:16):
Would think for Luca, you know, he's such a smot
of the basketball. Like I was telling somebody he's been
a pro since he was fifteen, so at twenty, he's
kind of mastered how the game works. He's mastered playing
against different styles, whether his physicality, whether it's quicker guys,
whatever it might be. But I think for him getting
in the ultimate shape would help tremendously. And then I

(38:38):
also think the more you give up the ball. I know,
coming from me, this sounds crazy, but the more you
give up the ball, the easier it is who actually
score without using less energy and kind of conservative energy,
and that's what you do at different times. I think
he grew in that area with Kyrie and letting Kyrie
take the leader of times. I think that's a level
of growth to actually win the championship.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
But you're never going to have a fish show give
you the benefit of the doubt if you're constantly complaining
to them.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
No.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
And he's too good to let that bother him or
let anybody bother him, Like, oh, I've joked before him,
like this guy plays when he's playing against the best defenses,
he's playing like he has headphones on d and he
does not get bothered by anybody.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
So don't let these guys bother you because you're too
good for that.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
The Celtics answered all the questions. Now, now we move
on Jason Tatum. He got his title. Now we move
on to Joe El Embiid or Luca as the next
player who needs to win a title.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Absolutely anybody else.

Speaker 8 (39:38):
Let me think Joel and bid Luca, Joe Hurdy has his.
I think I think those are the two on deck his.
I think those two are definitely on deck, and I
think they're gonna prepare and do anything. But let me
just say this about Tatum because I tweeted this. They
were up to Odin and he wasn't shooting well. He

(40:00):
wasn't like, you know, having his normal scoring outburst, but
he was hed just averaging ten rebounds, our eight rebounds,
ten assists at the time or vice versa. He was
doing well. He's playing all around game. He just wasn't
making shots, and people are like, what is he doing.
I'm like, if you were a down a two, I
can understand, you know, kind of jumping on them. But
they're up to oh, and we criticized him for not
doing other things when he wasn't just scoring. Now he's

(40:22):
doing that and they found a way to win. So
I'm happy for their enough for the self. They deserve it.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Well, I thought he should have been MVP. It felt
like he just had Jason Tatum numbers where Jalen Brown
was a little better with his numbers than what we expect.
Therefore it felt like he was more valuable. But you know,
it still comes down you got to stop Tatum, and
even when you stop him, he can still beat you
or help his teammates in other ways.

Speaker 8 (40:46):
And look at all he's accomplished at twenty six years old.
First Team All the NBA, a few times, All Star,
he'll be an Olympian this summer, like all those things
that go All Star, VP, like all those things that
go into it. I think now in his totality, I
thought him or Luke who were gonna look at their
whole careers a little bit differently. I think moving forward
for him, I think that changed a lot. But I'm

(41:08):
just glad that Boston actually kept those two together. Remember
a few years back, Yeah, everybody was like break them up, Like, no,
those two need each other. And now they're kind of
set up in a way, especially in the East, where
they can have a room for a while.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
We're talking to Jamal Crawford the Turner Sports NBA analyst
the series about the Clippers. When you were there with
Donald Sterling, it's called Clipped. What's it like to watch
a show where somebody is portraying you in the show.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
It's fascinating because I looked at him, I said, that's
not me. But it was crazy because the hair was
totally different. He had a long sleeved shirt. I'm like,
I don't think that's me. But just to be on
the show, you remember a different and like things. I
remember Sterling walking into the locker room. I remember that day.
It only happened one time in the five years I

(41:55):
was there, And no, he didn't get kicked out, but
he came in with ten different people and he was
singing hit paray like we had won a championship as
a regular season game. So that part was a little different,
But it's been it's been hilarious to watch the characters.
They could have did a little bit better casting because
that that that.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Chris Paulk not passed to portray you, and that was
hard to do as well. They needed to know to
find a gunner.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
They needed a gunner. They needed a gun slader.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, a slader, but Okay, that's a chaotic time. At
least it feels like that. Did you guys realize what
was going on? Like how chaotic this was from the
outside looking at at the Clippers.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
To be honest with you, he was never around like
he would come to games, but we never actually had
interactions with him. So the most chaotic stuff was when
after game three we're in San Francisco and all the
tapes came out. And even then, when the tapes came out,
what we were told was all the owner sets and things,
We're like, oh, he's a little different anyway, we sure
he said. And then when we heard the tapes, we
had to have another meeting after film session, and they

(42:56):
don't really talk about how we're going to move and
navigate going forward, and that part is true, and Cliff
that some of us were like, no, we're not comfortable playing,
and then others were like, well, let's talk through this thing.
And it was a two or three hour meeting to
kind of get everybody on the same page, and even
then it still didn't feel completely right.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I had Laurence Fishburn on a couple of weeks ago,
the great actor portraying Doc Rivers, and they said, what
did you know about Doc Rivers? He goes, nothing, He
didn't even know who Doc Rivers was.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
Think about that, Think about that, and I saw that
clip and I was crying laughing.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
I'm like, he knew nothing about Doc Rivers.

Speaker 8 (43:29):
But to his credit, he's nailed every manner, like even
when Doc got mad and yelled everything was to a team.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Are the Celtics a great team historically? Like is this season?
Are they going to be remembered for pick out whatever
Bulls team or Celtic team or Laker team. Are they
in that category for this season alone?

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Not sure?

Speaker 8 (43:53):
Yeah, And maybe with how things are looked at now,
things happened fast, there's always a new cycle going on.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
I'm not sure they're looked at as an all time
great team. Last night, it was weird.

Speaker 8 (44:03):
I was watching Kevin Durant his first run in the
finals with Golden State. They were sixteen and one. He
averaged thirty five five and like five like that was
like some other worldly stuff. And they were playing against
a healthy Cavs team at the time and Lebron and
like that felt like an all time playoff finals run.
I'm not sure this team feels like that even though

(44:24):
they checked the boxes with the numbers and some of
the eye techs.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, you're right, they're not better than Golden State. They're
not better than the eighty six Celtics or Throwing Magic's
Lakers or Mike's Bulls. Yeah, I certainly understand that. Speaking
of it, Yeah, what what do you have?

Speaker 5 (44:39):
What do you have with them all time? Like right
right in that conversation.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I don't think they're an all time great single season team.
But I think what's not fair to them is they
didn't go through any great teams.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
I didn't think Dallas was a great team.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I think Boston built a great team, and that's a
team that would be able to compete against any of
the teams because of their versatility and they have depth there.
But I'd have a hard time lumping them in as
a top ten great team of all time Individually. Manti
Williams got fired this morning, so he's with the Pistons.

(45:16):
Is there any chance the Lakers would be interested in
Monty Williams or is this a foregone conclusion? Would you
at least reach out if you're the Lakers, would you
rather have Manti Williams or would have JJ Reddick?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
If I make you Rob Polenka right now, right now.

Speaker 8 (45:35):
That's a good question because Mony's had obviously successes. He
helped take Phoenix to the finals, but then you see
what happens in Detroit's the younger team. I think Mani's
built more for bet teams, so I could see that.
But there's something about JJ that's exciting, and I think
that's why so many people are It's fascinating first time coach.

(45:55):
You know, he's only coached his kids like I have,
but you know he's a brilliant basketball mind.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
You know he loves the game. You know he can
make adjustments.

Speaker 8 (46:02):
Whoever is the coach, I feel like it's going to
have to be on board, like lock.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Lock and key with Lebron and AD.

Speaker 8 (46:09):
And I'm not saying anybody hasn't been, but just know
that going forward because at this point, Lebron's, you know,
the end is close to the beginning. I think everything
has to be tailored to what A D wants to
do because he's the president and the future, and Lebron's
the president right now right so he has to be
lock and key with whoever's the coach.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
What if a D says I don't want us to
draft Bronni. I know that. I'm just saying, you know,
if it's his team, be like, why are we wasting
a second round pick on Brownie?

Speaker 8 (46:42):
But what's what's interesting about Ad even when it's his
team is he would be okay if they got like
a third star and he was like not necessarily the
focal point of the offense because he's so unselfish and
he could do so many different things. People forget Kentucky.
He was more known for his defense, so he's comfortable
doing other things. So now if Brownie's on board, I'm

(47:02):
feeling Brownie.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah, I agree. Who's a better shooter? You are Reddick?

Speaker 8 (47:09):
I think spot shooting, I think he is. I think
off the Jewel, I think it's me. So I think
both for need it.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
So if you went one on one, ooh, I may.

Speaker 8 (47:18):
Have the advantage, man, I might, I might. But Reddick
has a better one on one game. People would think, like,
you can get to a stuff. He has a little
right to left crossover pull up. But one on one shooting,
I think, I.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Wait, did you just call him sneaky athletic? Is what
you did right there? Jamal sneak sneak.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Could you could you beat Jordan right now? Michael Jordan
in the game of one on one?

Speaker 8 (47:43):
Yeah, right now the second he's sixty sixty plus, I
can get him right now. But that's the only time
I can do Dan at thirty nine or forty years old,
when he was my age equivalent to my age, she
wasn't playing.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
At forty four resents forty.

Speaker 8 (47:56):
Yeah, he was still like dominating Prime All Stars. He
was dominating against the Antonell Walkers and the Mike Finleys,
and he was like he averaged I think twenty five
and five until he yet that knee injury with the wishes.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
We can look that up. You know, he was h
O with the only two at that time. Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
But you could take him at sixty.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
If me right down sixty, I might be able to
get one and only time. But yeah, we know him,
he's still a threat.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Calling him up.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
He doesn't.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I'm sure he'd hear this and he'd be like, I
give me a couple.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Of weeks I get ready for I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I don't know the next time we'll talk to you,
but I want to thank you for being available during
the season. You've come a long way, done a great job,
and I hope you got I know you have a
bright future. I hope you get opportunities down the road.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Here. You're a legend. I'm always honored to be on.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
That's Jamal Crawford.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
He played twenty seasons, six Man of the Year three times,
got good stories, he's fun, got an opinion pinned down
on would you rather take Monni Williams or JJ Reddick
and said he rather. He kind of said he would
rather take JJ Reddick, although Moni's good with veteran teams. Well,
that's what you have with the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
There
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