August 12, 2024 • 48 mins
2 Pros and a Cup of Joe fill in for Dan Patrick and react to Team USA winning the Gold in Paris. Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington react to all the rookie QB debuts including Caleb William looking like the real deal. They can't believe Jordan Chiles got stripped of her Bronze Medal. Producer Lee gets his backpack stolen by a couple of homeless guys and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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are glad to do so.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
How the hell we feel in here? Boys on a
Monday Mornking, Good mar Welcome back Buddy on the Dan
Patrick Money.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Yeah we missed it, Jonas, we missed you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well you know I miss you guys. You get that
new contract money man, you went off to Tahiti or something.
What new contract? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
What are you talking?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
He actually uh, he actually put himself with the punishment
of going to Chicago and seeing the Cubs play.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So there's really, hey, they won one of two.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
That is true. They're better than the White Sox.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So white Sox are so bad.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I mean you try to talk down the Cubs at
times and your expectations for the Cubs, but they're better
than the White sauce.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
So you got that going for you.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Like there's a Listen, we're gonna get into the Caleb
Williams discussion, but like there's there, like really is Bears,
Hope and Angel Reese in Chicago like that, that's what
you got to look forward to when it comes to
Chicago school.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Did you get did you get a hot dog Chicago?
Little Chicago dog?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Listen, there's a little uh hot dog car. I think
it's called Kim and Carlos's hot Dog Car. Of course
I would have found that name there. And they had
one out in front of.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Yeah, you know what that looks like a home game.
I recognize that.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I turned my wife without even saying anything. You just
go see the well let's go. Yeah, we had a
Chicago do we know?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It was a good time and you know, and then
we get back, and I logged off of social media
for like a week. Log back on first thing. I see, Hey,
do you think that this US Olympic team could beat
the Dream Team?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Let's do a compare. It's like, come on, man, can
we not?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Can we just not play that game once isolated, different team,
different story, not the second.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Let's also play that game for about two seconds and
knows the answer?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
All right, it would have to be. It would have
to be.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's a hard no for me though.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I mean, think about by the way, and this is
no disrespect to France or Serbia.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
They wound up getting the bronze.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
But Nicola Jokic literally willed the Serbian team to a bronze,
which might be might be as impressive as him taking
the Denver Nuggets to an NBA finals.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I'm not sure which is, but it seemed like.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
He was happier, by the way, winning a bronze than
he was actually winning an NBA finals.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh my god, Like I couldn't even believe it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He was ecstatic. You were like, hey, you just want
another MVP. It doesn't really mean anything.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm gonna go race my horses. They run.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Literally, he literally as soon as he left the Olympics,
went right back to the horse track.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They had to make an AI of his horses playing
with his MVP trophies, just to add some sort of
life to his excitement level when it came to winning
anything in the NBA. But he goes to the Olympics
and they win a bronze and that guy was raging.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
At it, which, by the way, he almost back to
the original point. He almost single handedly helped his team
beat the US team. They had him baut seventeen at
one point. You know, they had to meme up. You know,
they had the meme of Michael Jordan and Magic John's
and sitting on like the seat with their Olympic uniforms on, like, yeah,
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you remember that great comeback we had to make to
be able to win a gold medal. Yeah, we never were.
We it was never closed. There were there were no
closed games for there for for the Dream.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
People try and discuss well, you know, the talent level
is so much better nowadays than it was back then.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Of course because of the Dream.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
All those young kids saw the Dream Team come and
play in the Olympics and said I want to do that,
and they've like young players have talked about that that
completely changed. The Dream Team actually paid like carved out
a path for international players nowadays, whether it's Dirk or
Jokic or any of these guys Luca. And so when
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you see the comps and all that, like, you've got
to like, these are the founding fathers of international basketball and.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
It was a bunch of with that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
With that being sid, does that mean that the talent abroad?
Because again I felt like the reason why it was
such a big deal and why there was going to
be so much scrutiny on this team if they had lost,
was because, if you think about it, the best players
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in the NBA are euro players. The top picks in
the NBA drafts have been euro players. And so now
it does this shift from the dominance of what American
basketball USA basketball looks like and what it represents. Do
you have to open the conversation up even further if
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they weren't able to actually bring home a gold medal.
So while I will say I do think the Dream
Team would win just because I just I don't know, man,
Maybe it's nostalgia more than anything else that makes me
feel that way. But the talent level and the skill
level probably more so than anything else. Guys are bigger, stronger,
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they're faster, and they're better. Training is different, technology is different.
Everything is different now, and so it wouldn't It could
possibly be a hard conversation. It's a hypothetical, so you
don't ever have to live it down. But just imagine
if it really were able to play out where the
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Dream Team could play this Olympic team. We might be
surprised at what the results would be. That's all I
would say.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
It'd be the Dream Team handover fist, different era, different mentality.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Everything else to it.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I'll admit, yeah, the international players are better, but you
also have an international.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Players playing on the USA team.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
That's Joelle and Bean who obviously did not receive the
reception he thought he would winning the gold.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Medal when he was up there.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But I mean, again, the reality is it was just
to me a different time and era. I mean that
roster top to bottom was some of the all time greats.
And obviously the USA team now you've got Steph, you
got Lebron, you got Katie, You've got a number of
players who I think we we consider them that, but
no Dream Team, and it's everything after that. They could
be second place to them, third place, whatever you want,
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but that team's not being the dream team.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Fifth gold medal in a row for the US men's,
eighth in a row for the US women's just a
clean sweet for the US.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Would you have pay more attention to the ladies playing
if Angel and Caitlin were on the team.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
If Kaitlyn was, Yeah, just because, I mean you look
at what Steph did to close out that game.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
That's like what Caitlyn does.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And here's the thing is everyone seems to misconstrw like
why there's this phenomenon in watching Caitlyn versus what Angel
Reese does. Doesn't make you a wow When Caitlyn Clark
throws up a shot from the logo, it's different, Right,
Maybe you're watching for something else.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I'm just saying, that's what I'm talking about making.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I don't know, I don't know what you're watching looking for?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
It went viral. You're looking for it now?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I mean I'm not looking for but I know it there. Yeah,
I got news. That was the That was the deepest
show prep le He's ever done. I Mean, we spent
an entire hour on talking about Angel rees being that
All Star Weekend with Jaylen Brown and her teammate that
dates Jayleen Brown, but we didn't know Jaylen Brown was
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dating Angel Rees. There was just a whole lot of
things that that lead a lot wanted to talk about.
It definitely was.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
By the way, Steph Curry's first gold medal, Like how
about that, like first first appearance just.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
To close it out in that was incredible.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
They show they showed the diagram KD and Lebron James
was standing there wide over with their heads. I'm like, hey,
steps like I got it right there, Like yeah, man,
what what you thought? I thought this was a game?
This step her time? Baby, I'm cheffing right down. Oh man,
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threw the one up, just the one time over to two.
You just threw it up like like he wasn't warm ups, bro. Man,
the dude is as amazing a shooter as probably we
will ever see in our entire lifetime. Man that I mean,
that's just amazing what that dude.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Is able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
You guys think, because you've been around great athletes, do
you think Steph is that good at say, beer pong,
corn hole like some of these other games to where
this is just applicable or is it only basketball.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
He's a good golfers, a good golfer, good golfer.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't know, man, it just depends. Albert Heinstin couldn't
tie shoes, really, that's I mean, that's what the reports say.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I also don't think Albert Heinstein can shoot a three.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Well that's there. But I'm just saying you could be
great at like certain things and just not good at
other things. Just wasn't a part of his deal.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Albert Einstein couldn't tie And we're listening.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Tell us about that?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
What he could tie his shoes?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Are you sure?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Look it up? I didn't put this in show proud.
Let's see if we're out, we're here, Let's see what
we got here. I mean, Velcrow is pretty sweet. I
mean why not? Yeah, why not? Why waste your time
on that? I agree, you know it takes a while,
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so we find.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, Lee's efforting, Lie's efforting whether or not Albert Einstein.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Ties? Was Einstein unable to tie his shoelaces or did
he not tie his shoes? One explanation was given about
this was he pretended he didn't know to tie his
shoes because he found it a waste of his time. Okay,
he didn't want it to occupy his mind. That's I mean,
that's right. These are not sounds like, these are not
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given as as factual. It's just this was the answer
that someone felt was the best thing.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's like the person who's not married that goes, well,
I'm not married because I got other things that are priority.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's like, no, you haven't found anybody.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It feels like an excuse. I mean, just to stay
on the Olympics topic. I mean, it feels like if
you like lost a race, for example, saying you had COVID,
but then you might be founded in the clubs immediately.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
After the Olympics. What do you get at I'm not good.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I'm just saying it seems odd that you win one
race and then the next one you lose, but now
you have COVID even after your introduction where you looked
like you're healthy, you look like you're a fine and
then you're in the club after.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Are you saying that somebody was dealing a COVID card
from the bottom of the deck. Is that what you said?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
That sounds like it sounds like it was a convenient
excuse for not winning a certain race, But then being
in the club right after that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh man, that man was sick.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
He was he was cold, he had Yeah you see
us intro. I've never seen a dude walk on the
track like that in my life and act like if
that was his flu game. It sure didn't look like
Jordan that flu game.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Dang, oh man, you know what happens. Well, listen, it
was a fun ride.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I appreciate the the Olympics, you know, a good solid
two weeks of content here as we get ready for
the NFL season.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's time, though, It's time for that.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, we got preseason man, you got these rookies bawling.
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we've been asked here, Hey, filing for Dan and the guys.
Dan is out. So here we are on a Monday morning,
and we've talked about the Olympics. We've talked about the
Olympics going bye bye, and it is now football time.
We have got football on the brain, We've got football
conversations to be had, and we're going to have all
those football conversations here from the Tairaq dot Com studios
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and One of those conversations is the debut of Caleb Williams,
seen and featured a lot on Hard Knocks, discussed all
through the offseason. He made his debut against the Bills
on Saturday in a preseason game. I don't know what
you guys thought of the debut, and there's some other
debuts we're going to get to, but Caleb Williams seemed
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to showcase the skill set that many people have been
talking about over the past couple of years and why
he was the consensus number one pick even going back
to last year.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I actually think he will Like the NFL offenses are
better suited for Caleb Williams to showcase his skill And
it might sound a little bit odd insane that because
you want a Heisman in college, but like hear me
out for a second, Caleb Williams throwing on the run
is absolutely incredible, Like I used, probably one of the
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best quarterbacks like entering into the NFL throwing on the run,
as far as accuracy, the ability to shape throws, the
ability to throw across his body, do things that most can't,
and literally stepping in the NFL is one of the
best I've ever seen ever and one of the things
that if you go back to his time at Southern Cal,
there's not a lot of offense like you're gonna see
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in the in the NFL in the sense of you
can put them under center, you can run more boots,
you can run more sprintouts, you can run more.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Move the pockets.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
He was oftentimes just kind of sitting in shotgun and
if things broke down, then you saw his ability to
throw on the run and create because his athleticism ability
to buy time. But in the NFL, every single week,
it's all about matchups, and so your offense has all
these different wrinkles and tools and things in there toward
they change.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
And the other thing is is there's you know.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Obviously you throw the football more than you do running
the football, but it's much closer to a fifty to
fifty split than in college football and some cases, and
for him, I think that's going to allow him to
play from under center a little bit more. It's going
to allow him to actually, you know, be in a
normal drop back passing game showcase all these different things
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that he's capable of doing, but not have to do
it in the manner that he did it at Southern
cal where it felt like it was off script or
scrambling or buying time or having to make a play
like it'll be more by design, And I think that's
one of the things that should help him, I think,
become an absolute star at the next level. But he's
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been phenomenal so far, kind of as you would expect
with all the hype around him and everything that he'd
showcase during his time in college.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I'll say this, he he definitely show that he can
play at this level, which is first and foremost the
initial thing you want to see is that he can
handle being out there. I will say with the caveat
that the one time that it would be doable to
have success.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Would be in the.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I mean, let's just be clear. You're gonna have defenses
that are not really going to show schematically what they're
planning on doing to be able to try to limit
a guy that you have to game plan against, So
don't I don't take too much from it other than
the fact that he looked like he was comfortable. He
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looked like he had command and control over what he
was doing as as the general to feel general for
the offense, and that should be a positive that you
take away from it. I just I think that the
conversation has changed so dramatically in how you speak on
preseason just because of who's playing. And then you take
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in the other elements. Like I said, a defensive coordinator
is not scheming for the Chicago Bears offense in the preseason.
You're seeing what guys are capable of doing and seeing
who's going to fill the roles that are available to
them on their roster or so. But I do think
that is a good start. I don't. I don't look
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at it as there was anything that would make me
feel as though it would give you pause on thinking
that Caleb Williams can live up to the I guess
the expectation of what people are thinking he's going to be.
I will I will, I guess also say and to
that that I guess in that vein, I still kind
of look at it from the standpoint of can he
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have the type of year because he's going to be
judged off of Again, you're going to put the best
of the best out there because they think he's the best.
So you're going to compare him the guys to Patrick Mahomes.
You're going to compare him to what CJ. Stroud did
this past season. Can he block out that noise? Can
he actually outplay what what a c J. Stroud did
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last season? I think there are going to be a
few questions that are big questions for him and his
His level of accomplishment and achievement may be fear or unfair,
but I do think he's going to be judged and
held to a different, you know, standard or different expectation
than probably any other quarterback that that's been taken in
this year's draft and made me in other drafts as well.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
He was asked afterwards Caleb Williams whether or not his
performance was reassuring coming back and playing in his first
preseason game.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
There is an understandment that it is preseason that you know,
everybody's not going to show their looks and you know
what they would do versus and vice versa. But it
definitely is, you know, it definitely feels good to get
out there.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The last time I was.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Out there on the field other than practice, it was
November eighteen, and it's you know, you go that long
without something, it's it's it's tough, but you know, it's
been great. The guys have made it fun. They made
it easy on me. So to get out there and
and and and have the confidence you know that we
had out there, it's it's only going to get better
and we can't wait.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Kind of wild to think November eighteenth was the last
time we played. It's a long ass time ago. And
then he gets thrown and do an NFL game a
preseason or not, and to perform the way that he did.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
There was also a.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Little like, isn't every rookie quarterback pretty much thrown into that?
I mean, I'm just saying like that they're going to
end either November or December or maybe being in January,
but it's always gonna be a long wait like that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
There was a moment there where and maybe I'm just
looking too far into this, but where he rolled out
and as he was rolling out like one of his
first drive it might have been his first drop back
as a quarterback in the NFL, and he notices that
there's some illegal contact or a hole that was happening
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in front of him on the offensive line, and he
turns as he's on the run and looks to the
official behind him to call for a hold. And I
thought to myself he's like none of this is too
big for him, Like it seems like everything is at
the right speed, at the right pace, Like he doesn't
seem like he's overwhelmed or any of it is is
confusing or anything like that. And you just saw somebody's
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like the decisions, the throws, little thing like that, which
is why just being in Chicago last week, they are
all in on Caleb Williams. It's everywhere it should be.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
This should be.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
He's a He's a you know, franchise changing type of talent.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean, that's truthfully what he is.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
And to your point about that, like the things I've
always appreciated about him is I've always seen a few
instances and it really was last year when he played
you know, at s where he pressed. Usually he does
a great job of letting the game come to him,
and I think his ability to improvise, his ability to
get outside the pocket and throw on the run probably
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gives him that confidence because he always knows he has.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
That in his back pocket.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
If if anything does happen off script, he can execute
as good as anyone. And so that's probably why that's
the case. But to your point, I mean, he's so
far checked that box of being able to handle the
preseason speed that all come down to to the regular season,
which is another level up, like LeVar touched on, and
we'll see how he adjust not necessarily throughout the course
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the season, but like end game, because every single series,
defense are doing something different to shut you down, and
defense are making adjustments.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's the biggest thing that he's going.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
To have to overcome is how teams go about trying
to keep him in the pocket and trying to make
him play from the pocket, and then putting pressure on
him in a variety of ways once he's played enough
and they feel like he's got some tendencies.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It felt like a majority of the first round quarterbacks
performed pretty well.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I don't know if that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Like Jayden Daniels was brief, not bad. JJ McCarthy looked okay,
Bo Nicks looked great.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
For Denver, I'll say this going just going back to
Caleb Williams, the one thing that did really stand out
for me and the few reps that he took is
that he's not scared. He's not nervous, like he's not
going to get at least for now. It didn't seem
as though he could get rattled into, you know, as
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Q mentioned kind of like pushing or forcing to try
to make plays. I mean, you look at that screenplay
that they ran. It took some It took real bravery,
It took courage to execute that. Like people will say, oh,
look at the throw, the way he flicked it, you know,
and got it out. I say, look at how long
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he held it. Look at how much time he gave
the running back in the offensive line and everybody to
get in position and still not take a sack and
be able to deliver the ball the way that he did.
Those are the things to me that scare you as
a defender. You know, when when somebody can they can
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take that lack of fear and can actually execute at
a high level on the go like that as a quarterback.
That's what's going to keep defensive coordinators up at night,
like what are we going to do? The kid can run.
I mean he might have. I don't think it's a
stretch to say he's probably a better runner than Patrick Mahomes.
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He has the same type of a way of going
about throwing the ball and delivering the ball and reading
the field like a Patrick Mahomes does. I think he
has more athletic ability than he does as well. So
if he does take off and run, We've seen Patrick
Mahomes dismantled defenses and make it harder to defend them
because he creates that man on man. You know that matchup,
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you got to have somebody who can keep up with
Patrick Mahomes. You're not just going to get them with
a defensive lineman. So that's I think it's a scary
proposition to see that Caleb Williams is so comfortable so
quickly and so early in this early stage of his career.
Because to have that confidence and that ability to stand
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in there and know what it is that you're getting
yourself into, it can make him super dangerous moving forward. Man,
what about that frozen rope to Cole Commet on the run?
A think about that? I mean, he's he's I mean,
he just he showed that he's special, that's for certain.
And it does look like it translates into the pro game.
And that's what you want to see in the preseason
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because you could, I mean there could there's been some
trash quarterbacks. I have to have great preseasons. I mean
I was on a team that won five games. We
went we went four four four O four five and
oh four no, and in the preseason and didn't win
like like we won like three games in the regular season,
if that counts as eight total. I'm just saying I've
(25:28):
seen it where teams can have great success offenses, defenses,
players like, oh yeah, this guy who is a guy?
Who is the quarterback? You say, Danny, It's it's not
so much about the quarterback. It's about just the given
circumstances of what the preseason represents. Danny Warfol it was.
I do believe it was Danny Warfold that was the quarterback.
(25:50):
Why Danny Warfole catches straight? He didn't catch a straight?
He played very well. We thought we was gonna do
something with the former Heisman Trophy winner and Florida great.
You know, before there was Tim Tebow, there was Danny
warfol You know, I'm just saying we thought we had
it together. Had there are a whole lot of a
whole lot of work to do.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You know, there is this like kind of behind the
scenes thing for like backup quarterbacks where you try to,
you know, rack up yards in the preseason because you know,
the starter. So if if you're in a position where
you are the backup, you do keep tabs on, like
who's leading in like passing yards to preseason, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Like you're always kind of keeping tabs on all.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Though, because oh yeah, because like it's the last playing
time you get until something happens during the season. So
if you go into a season, like a preseason like that,
like you people definitely keep tabs on some of that.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'll say this much.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
I remember, I think Luke McCown and I want to
say Josh too, when he was a backup, the mccowns
would always always dime it up during preseason and like
have a ton of yards. I think Luke in particular,
I remember a couple a couple of preseasons where like
he would have a crap ton of yards every single time.
Were like day we got to catch loot Man. But
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I'm pretty sure is one of the two accounts.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Wait, how about Trey Lance having forty one pass the
times yesterday?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He ain't got many? Got many? Damn? How about your
boy Michael Pennix. But it's the preseason though, you know
it's the preseason. Hey, By the way, do you think
Pennix is going to start a game this That's what
I'm saying. It's the preseason. I think he is, But
I think the bigger question up is he going to
(27:33):
win the job outright and start a game or is
it going to be due to some type of an
injury that sets Kirk Cousins back and sets him up
to lose his job. Either way, it's just pretty stressed.
If I'm Kirk Cousins. I know I'm getting the money,
but that's a tap bit stressful for my playing time.
I mean, Kirk Cousins said it recently.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That he would have or the report was that, Yeah,
if I would have known this would have been the plan,
I would have entertained the idea of going back to
Minnesota on a one year deal, because at least Minnesota
was upfront with him about what their plan was, and
Atlanta was like, no, We're just gonna go ahead and
take uh take Michael Pennock's number eight.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So that is the the quick check on all of
the any any other quarterback play jump out to you
guys other than Stetson Bennett, uh, you know, serving it
enough a few times for the for the Rams against
the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
JJ McCarthy looked pretty good. I do.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
That's the one I wonder about because there was this
report that came out that they the Vikings plan is
Sam Darnold will be the starter. JJ McCarthy, you know,
most likely going to ride the bench. But he looked
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
U he responded after.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
What I liked about him is he threw an early
interception and then after that he really responded with it.
So it's he kind of battled through if you want
to call adversity or whatever else. I was curious though,
watching that preseason game. I want to see between Minshew
and O'Connell if someone would have the edge, and Minshew
obviously in the stat line, you know, had a little
bit more than than O'Connell, but they both played decently well.
(29:04):
So that quarterback battle's going to keep moving forward.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I think.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
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look at when it comes to the NFL. The Olympics
are finally over. Also, could somebody please explain to me
what the hell happened with Jordan Chiles? Like, Brady, do
you do you have intel on this situation from the misses?
That sucks as it.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Is one of the My mind's blown how this can happen.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
So let's just go over the entire process of scoring.
So scoring in gymnastics, there's execution, which is based on
you start with a score of ten and then for
every deduction right, it goes down from there, and then
you have difficulty, which is basically you know what you
(30:26):
know kind of routine, you have what elements of the
routine are in there, and they determine a start value
for you of difficulty.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
So it's the.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Combination of execution based on the judges and then the
difficulty of the routine. So as long as you do
everything you're supposed to do in the routine. Let's just say,
to make math easy, if the difficulty is a six
point zero, and let's say you got eight point zero
in execution, you combine the two scores to get fourteen points. Okay,
(30:56):
that's how in essence, that's an example how scoring's done.
So in this instance, for Jordan Giles, what happened was
is when she did her routine, they thought her start
value or her difficulty was a five point eight. Now
it's actually a five point nine. Now, the reason why
(31:19):
someone could potentially say it was a five point eight
it's either by error they simply didn't know what the
start value was or miscalculated or it was sure, or
there's an element or a part of her routine that
she didn't do.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
And so the process works like this.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
There's an appeal because there's three judges who will make
or calculate the score for that performance. But then when
you appeal, it goes to a higher judge who will
then say, like, no, she did everything that was in
that routine, And in this case, the judge said, basically, yeah,
her start value should have been five point nine, not
(31:58):
five point eight. Difference in that tenth of a point
was the difference in her being third place, winning the
bronze or fourth place. So now the Romanian I guess
Olympic committee whatever their organization is, they appealed this and
so they said they didn't get the appeal.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
The US didn't get the appeal and in time.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
So there's for some reason, there's a timing mechanism to
after the athlete performs, you have only a minute or
so to verbally get in your appeal, and apparently the
US was four seconds late, is.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
What they're saying.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Now this is this is up for debate, but I
think the greater point that bothers me, not like just
for Jordan Childs, but like any Olympic athlete or in
this case just gymnastics, is why is there a limit
on the time to appeal something like if there was
clearly a mathematical air and the routine was done, that
was there, you know she stated she was going to do, Like,
(32:59):
why are you cheating her out of a medal? Then
based on the fact that you didn't have the proper addition?
It's it's it's mind boggled, Like this is something that
really should be changed forever more moving forward. And it's
not just about it being a US you know, athlete,
and my wife's involved in all this. It's more because
it's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard for
someone being having a medal taken away from them.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
That sucks. Wow, heck of a way to lose your eye,
because it just kind of spoils the whole thing for
everybody because no matter who, because didn't they I saw
that well.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
And by the way, the athlete who who would be
awarded the bronze medal, and no disrespect to that athlete,
but they didn't earn it, Like this is more of
a clerical error or or a fault within the process.
Like Jordan Childs got the score, she got, she got third,
she won bronze. There's no reason they should be taking
that away from her. It's only because of the way
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this is set up, apparently with the appeal process. So
instead of saying like we should go back and look
at how we do scoring or how we appealed the scores,
they're just like, no, we're gonna take the medal away.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So now what's the plans. I did see.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
There'll there'll be an appeal for the US, and I think,
based on the knowledge that I have, the US should
win the appeal.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Based on the evidence that so she'll get it back,
she should. Yes.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Now again I'm only speculating because of what I know,
but based on the evidence that they have to support
their appeal, she should be able to get it back.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, that's a good thing. Yeah, it's your metal back girl. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Well, hey, don't be four seconds late though, you know,
especially if Yeah, that's the that's the important part here. Well,
you know, listen, and now now we put these controversies
aside for another four years and la is getting the
Olympics in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Correct, that'll be fun. That'll be fun. Traffic will be
real nice around here. I'm sure during that time as
well too.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Well, what I saw is apparently they're trying to make
sure everything everything's funneled through public transportation.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
And see what I love what I saw. Yeah, well
that sounds like a good idea, Mike.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Mike should try listening to lead the lap stories. You
don't have a lot of people getting chased down being
in front of dirty.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Bike and the boys the field day.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, by the way, I can't wait to see how
how much they clean this up temporarily to make it
look presentable and then as soon as everybody leaves.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Right back by the way, Lee, did you get your
car cleaned?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
No?
Speaker 9 (35:26):
In fact, that that should be my camouflage, so nobody
messes with my car.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
That's actually not the camouflage. It's the you know, the
track it attracts, you know that.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
That's I'm more thinking that, like, honey, based on what
was done in there by dirty Mike.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
I've cleaned it up yet right now, I just right now,
I wouldn't tape holding up my mirror.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Oh no, oh no, I wouldn't take a black life
through that. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Said he was sad walk pimping. For those of you
that might be a tad bit confused. Lead the lap
our producer told a story about how his car got
broken into it by a couple of homeless guys and
he caught him in the act. He caught one in
the act. Yeah, because Joel mentioned he didn't catch the bag. Mamma, jammy,
he got he got the weak link, He got the
(36:23):
weak caught the quarter Stiller.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Yet the big bag single jingle jingle, I get the
bag Stepper Lee roughed up a bum in front of
a valvele Gas.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
And in front of all the workers there.
Speaker 11 (36:42):
So uh, I stopped an old lady from leaving the
valvel into That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Why blocked her way up? What did she do? Well?
She was she was a sorry man. I gotta shake
this guy down. I know you might be late for work,
but uh, you know, I handle this.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
She's on that guy he used to leave laptop though?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Did you see them? That's suggestent jab Yeah, dude, what what?
What show was that? I forget what that is called?
But idio.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So again, for those of you listening in Los Angeles, uh,
in the North Hollywood area, if you do see a
homeless gentleman with a nice nomadic bag and a laptop,
we can assure.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
You it was your nomadic That's what I'm most upset about. Yeah,
that's a nice bag. Yeah, it's a really nice it
really is. It'll come in handy. That guy's gounna have
a uh extra compartment. That's just sturdy.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Tank.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Guy's got a canteen, a sewer rat in the side
pocket like he's walking around the comfortable.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
He's gonna have enough stuff to carry around his home.
You know, I would consider homebo So those bags have
like compartments for everything.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
To say, they definitely do. Got all my flasks to dude,
did he really all of them?
Speaker 9 (38:04):
All the plastic game, the metal, my teealing one, my
uh Jagermeister one, and yes, my plastic.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
One is taking the games. Let's go on eBay and
see if we see.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
You got that tealing one from Ireland. I did, dude,
when we were out with Dan Patrick and the gags.
Oh man, that's a bomber well and my passport.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
It's just like, hey, Lee, what are you gonna do
if this guy all of a sudden starts impersonating he like,
what does that say about you? That a hallless guy
basically steal your identity?
Speaker 11 (38:41):
Does not say good for I mean he does have
the computer to be able to do it, you know
what I mean, take out a couple of loans whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
The fact that this guy is going to be going
through Lee's bag seeing all his flasks, going hey man,
this guy's got a real problem.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Actually, Lee, what would you do if he reached out
to He's like Actually I think we could be friends.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I heard that's how I met todd.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Man. Lee.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
How long were you going?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
You went in for how long?
Speaker 9 (39:14):
And he left the door a few minutes, which is
I got caught talking to a neighbor.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Set up? I would I would neighbors involved. Yeah, the neighbors.
I can't be mad at the neighbor, but I'm kind
of upset at myself. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
If I could have caught them, right, I could have
caught them even more in the act.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, well I don't know if you want to catch
them with that?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Would had you caught him in
the act, what would you have done? Like, because if
you really wanted to do you would have been afraid.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
He would have said, hey, man.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Hey you guys doing man, give me back my quarters?
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Just you know, you know, the other side was open.
You could have just opened the door. He's got to
break my way. He's got a rolled up job. Application
they start running, No, I know.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
That a bum? Is that an advertiser? It's a silver bullet.
It looks like McDonald's. Oh no, run run again. Like
(40:26):
it's just too much, man, this is just too much
Lee life. It's just unbelievable. It's like you said, I
love the way they plotted on it. He's like, hey,
that neighborhood they.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Conspired, like they they picked him out.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
They're like, hey, whatever, that guy has been picking up
our poop in the sidewalk. Oh, I've seen this guy.
See where we're gonna get him. I've seen what he tries.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
He thinks he's one of us. Look at that car
we were gonna rob last week. Oh no, oh.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
No, I'll tell you that neighbor was involved. That was
a setup. They were distracting you so they could get
your stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Was it a lady or do lady?
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You go bring back his passport, just lay it on
the Here you go.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
We know where you live.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
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(41:42):
Apparently there was a news conference that took place in Boulder,
and he just decided he had a little bit of
an issue with CBS as a whole. After being asked
a couple of questions here Sanders.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Eric Kristensen was CEBA Sports Colorado.
Speaker 7 (41:59):
See Tylers, I'm not doing none with CBS. Next question,
it's above that you got none to do with you.
I got love for you, I appreciate, respect you, and
got none to do with you. They know what they did.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I'm here in Denver, not national. You are who you are, CBS.
The CBS all right with you. I respect you.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
And that's why I told you that I'm looking at
you and now as a man, I respect you.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I got love for you. But what they did was foul.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
So not talking about the coaches ranking, yeah, what we're
talking about. They ranked him the second to last bat like.
They basically said, he's the worst coach, one of the
worst coaches.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
In the Big twelve Big Coach, which came from CBS
Sports dot Com, which does not have anything to do
with the CBS affiliate that's out there in Denver, which
is why the reporter was trying to point that out
to him.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Unfortunately, he was unaware of that, so That's.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
What is a little bit unfortunate about it, is like
this guy is just trying to do it.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
You can't even do it because.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Of something that Dan's confused with, what the actual rankings
where they come from.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I don't think he cared CBS with CBS in that
moment that I just felt like, to me.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Works.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I think the whole, the whole idea of it. I
think just this is just me one person's opinion. I
think he could have handled it differently than what he did.
Certainly could have handled because if you're going to go
out of your way to tell him how much you
love him and you respect them and you appreciate him,
then you could have handled it. I would at least said,
(43:37):
like explain it, like you know what you did, okay,
but just explain it, you know what I mean, Like
have the back and forth about like why you feel
that way. Even though people I guess know I would
have still I just would have handled that one differently.
Like you are. You are the head coach of the team.
Everybody isn't going to write and say and do things
(43:59):
that you're going to like. I mean, that just is
what it is. I mean, you are prime people love you,
but they are there are going to be people that
take swipes at you and listen, if you don't like it,
you can fix it. That's that's how it is. And
and on the playing field competing, you don't like it,
you can fix it. I just don't I don't know
(44:20):
that you get so butt hurt that you don't want
to do you don't want to do the interview. It
does feel like it's open season on Prime in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
But here's the thing that people I think miss sometimes
with Beat reporters, which obviously this guy is working for
CBS Denver, you know, Dion Colorbado. Is a huge story
oftentimes that people who are Beat reporters are like fans.
There are sometimes the lums of the of the university
in this case, but they're they're ultimately fans of the school.
(44:50):
They're fans of the team, like they're you know, really,
you kind of should look at it more as like
your media arm like you're you're I mean, unbiased at
least the on how it looks. But and I don't
know how LaVar if you experienced that, but I always
felt like all the Beat reporters that I was around,
regardless of whatever team I played for in the NFL
(45:11):
the well, but they want you to do well, but
they want you to win so they can write about
it like they're along for the ride too. If Colorado wins,
the Big Twelve goes to the playoff, like they're going
to like that makes their season more fun and more memorable,
and that's why they're a part of it.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
So I just don't understand, and I don't.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Understand why you're going to ostracize those people who are
there supporting you, like hoping that you're turning it around,
you know, and trying to you know right, you know,
do their job to write the stories of the coach
the players, because that's the other thing too, is you know,
who knows what he was going to talk about or
ask about, but it then steals away an opportunity for
(45:51):
him to talk about one of the young many coaches,
which is really what it should be all about.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
I just feel like sports is like everybody loves the
ultimate underdog, right, use that to your advantage. Don't don't
make people like feel like I'm not rooting for this
dude like it. Maybe he doesn't care because his popularity
is so high at this point, I don't know, but
like to me, it's like, okay, like CBS, yep, y'all said,
I'm basically a trash a trash head coach, Like y'all
(46:21):
got me second to last in rankings a Big twelve
coaches Like, Okay, I see y'all and I appreciate that motivation,
and I appreciate y'all giving me you know what y'all
feel I'm deserving of, Like, let's see what we can do,
you know what I mean? Like to me, I felt
like that would have played so far and so deep
into building continuing to build this brand of overachiever for
(46:45):
Dion as as a head coach. I felt like it
was a missed opportunity. I mean, what do you think
Kenny Dillingham thinks he was last. There was some off
brand schools on there too. And then the fact that
you can't say, well, it's it's a Big twelve thing
because you rank a Utah team number one, you rank
Utah state number one, Well, Utah, but Utah Utah?
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Yeah, I mean what they are in the Big twelve now, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
They are right, but it's a former Pac twelve school, Yeah,
Kyle Woodingham's stud Yeah, So there you go, and.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
They are the favorite to win it, which I do
wonder how much that plays a little bit of a
factor in it.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I think that I think that that is super offensive.
If you're Dion Sanders, well, you.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
Have to understand they're near the conference too, right right.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I love it they just left the same conference, just
like I.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Just love the fact that he's It's prime. Like, he
will throw down with Andre Ryzen on the field. He
will dump ice on Tim McCarver post game after a
playoff game. He will he will make rap videos. He
will do what he pleases. And if he doesn't like
that CBS did this, everybody at CBS affiliate or not
gets astray.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
There's no connection. I feel bad for that guy.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Like, I mean, I obviously work for CBS Sports, right,
Like I want to work for CBS Sports dot com.
Like he could technically plump me into that. I'm like,
I didn't write this, I didn't vote on any of this.
I don't even know who wrote the article.
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He actually uh, he actually put himself with the punishment
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That is true. They're better than the White Sox.
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I mean you try to talk down the Cubs at
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Little Chicago dog?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Listen, there's a little uh hot dog car. I think
it's called Kim and Carlos's hot Dog Car. Of course
I would have found that name there. And they had
one out in front of.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
The Yeah, you know what that looks like a home game.
I recognize that.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I turned my wife without even saying anything. You just
go see the well let's go. Yeah, we had a
Chicago do we know?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It was a good time and you know, and then
we get back, and I logged off of social media
for like a week. Log back on first thing. I see, Hey,
do you think that this US Olympic team could beat
the Dream Team?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Let's do a compare. It's like, come on, man, can
we not?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Can we just not play that game once isolated, different team,
different story, not the second.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Let's also play that game for about two seconds and
knows the answer?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
All right, it would have to be. It would have
to be.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's a hard no for me though.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I mean, think about by the way, and this is
no disrespect to France or Serbia.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
They wound up getting the bronze.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
But Nicola Jokic literally willed the Serbian team to a bronze,
which might be might be as impressive as him taking
the Denver Nuggets to an NBA finals.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I'm not sure which is, but it seemed like.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
He was happier, by the way, winning a bronze than
he was actually winning an NBA finals.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh my god, Like I couldn't even believe it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He was ecstatic. You were like, hey, you just want
another MVP. It doesn't really mean anything.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm gonna go race my horses. They run.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Literally, he literally as soon as he left the Olympics,
went right back to the horse track.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They had to make an AI of his horses playing
with his MVP trophies, just to add some sort of
life to his excitement level when it came to winning
anything in the NBA. But he goes to the Olympics
and they win a bronze and that guy was raging.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
At it, which, by the way, he almost back to
the original point. He almost single handedly helped his team
beat the US team. They had him baut seventeen at
one point. You know, they had to meme up. You know,
they had the meme of Michael Jordan and Magic John's
and sitting on like the seat with their Olympic uniforms on, like, yeah,
(04:00):
you remember that great comeback we had to make to
be able to win a gold medal. Yeah, we never were.
We it was never closed. There were there were no
closed games for there for for the Dream.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
People try and discuss well, you know, the talent level
is so much better nowadays than it was back then.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Of course because of the Dream.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
All those young kids saw the Dream Team come and
play in the Olympics and said I want to do that,
and they've like young players have talked about that that
completely changed. The Dream Team actually paid like carved out
a path for international players nowadays, whether it's Dirk or
Jokic or any of these guys Luca. And so when
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you see the comps and all that, like, you've got
to like, these are the founding fathers of international basketball and.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
It was a bunch of with that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
With that being sid, does that mean that the talent abroad?
Because again I felt like the reason why it was
such a big deal and why there was going to
be so much scrutiny on this team if they had lost,
was because, if you think about it, the best players
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in the NBA are euro players. The top picks in
the NBA drafts have been euro players. And so now
it does this shift from the dominance of what American
basketball USA basketball looks like and what it represents. Do
you have to open the conversation up even further if
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they weren't able to actually bring home a gold medal.
So while I will say I do think the Dream
Team would win just because I just I don't know, man,
Maybe it's nostalgia more than anything else that makes me
feel that way. But the talent level and the skill
level probably more so than anything else. Guys are bigger, stronger,
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they're faster, and they're better. Training is different, technology is different.
Everything is different now, and so it wouldn't It could
possibly be a hard conversation. It's a hypothetical, so you
don't ever have to live it down. But just imagine
if it really were able to play out where the
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Dream Team could play this Olympic team. We might be
surprised at what the results would be. That's all I
would say.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
It'd be the Dream Team handover fist, different era, different mentality.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Everything else to it.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I'll admit, yeah, the international players are better, but you
also have an international.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Players playing on the USA team.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
That's Joelle and Bean who obviously did not receive the
reception he thought he would winning the gold.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Medal when he was up there.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But I mean, again, the reality is it was just
to me a different time and era. I mean that
roster top to bottom was some of the all time greats.
And obviously the USA team now you've got Steph, you
got Lebron, you got Katie, You've got a number of
players who I think we we consider them that, but
no Dream Team, and it's everything after that. They could
be second place to them, third place, whatever you want,
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but that team's not being the dream team.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Fifth gold medal in a row for the US men's,
eighth in a row for the US women's just a
clean sweet for the US.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Would you have pay more attention to the ladies playing
if Angel and Caitlin were on the team.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
If Kaitlyn was, Yeah, just because, I mean you look
at what Steph did to close out that game.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
That's like what Caitlyn does.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And here's the thing is everyone seems to misconstrw like
why there's this phenomenon in watching Caitlyn versus what Angel
Reese does. Doesn't make you a wow When Caitlyn Clark
throws up a shot from the logo, it's different, Right,
Maybe you're watching for something else.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I'm just saying, that's what I'm talking about making.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I don't know, I don't know what you're watching looking for?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
It went viral. You're looking for it now?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I mean I'm not looking for but I know it there. Yeah,
I got news. That was the That was the deepest
show prep le He's ever done. I Mean, we spent
an entire hour on talking about Angel rees being that
All Star Weekend with Jaylen Brown and her teammate that
dates Jayleen Brown, but we didn't know Jaylen Brown was
(08:22):
dating Angel Rees. There was just a whole lot of
things that that lead a lot wanted to talk about.
It definitely was.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
By the way, Steph Curry's first gold medal, Like how
about that, like first first appearance just.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
To close it out in that was incredible.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
They show they showed the diagram KD and Lebron James
was standing there wide over with their heads. I'm like, hey,
steps like I got it right there, Like yeah, man,
what what you thought? I thought this was a game?
This step her time? Baby, I'm cheffing right down. Oh man,
(09:01):
threw the one up, just the one time over to two.
You just threw it up like like he wasn't warm ups, bro. Man,
the dude is as amazing a shooter as probably we
will ever see in our entire lifetime. Man that I mean,
that's just amazing what that dude.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Is able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
You guys think, because you've been around great athletes, do
you think Steph is that good at say, beer pong,
corn hole like some of these other games to where
this is just applicable or is it only basketball.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
He's a good golfers, a good golfer, good golfer.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't know, man, it just depends. Albert Heinstin couldn't
tie shoes, really, that's I mean, that's what the reports say.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I also don't think Albert Heinstein can shoot a three.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Well that's there. But I'm just saying you could be
great at like certain things and just not good at
other things. Just wasn't a part of his deal.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Albert Einstein couldn't tie And we're listening.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Tell us about that?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
What he could tie his shoes?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Are you sure?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Look it up? I didn't put this in show proud.
Let's see if we're out, we're here, Let's see what
we got here. I mean, Velcrow is pretty sweet. I
mean why not? Yeah, why not? Why waste your time
on that? I agree, you know it takes a while,
(10:31):
so we find.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, Lee's efforting, Lie's efforting whether or not Albert Einstein.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Ties? Was Einstein unable to tie his shoelaces or did
he not tie his shoes? One explanation was given about
this was he pretended he didn't know to tie his
shoes because he found it a waste of his time. Okay,
he didn't want it to occupy his mind. That's I mean,
that's right. These are not sounds like, these are not
(11:04):
given as as factual. It's just this was the answer
that someone felt was the best thing.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
That's like the person who's not married that goes, well,
I'm not married because I got other things that are priority.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's like, no, you haven't found anybody.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
It feels like an excuse. I mean, just to stay
on the Olympics topic. I mean, it feels like if
you like lost a race, for example, saying you had COVID,
but then you might be founded in the clubs immediately.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
After the Olympics. What do you get at I'm not good.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I'm just saying it seems odd that you win one
race and then the next one you lose, but now
you have COVID even after your introduction where you looked
like you're healthy, you look like you're a fine and
then you're in the club after.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Are you saying that somebody was dealing a COVID card
from the bottom of the deck. Is that what you said?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
That sounds like it sounds like it was a convenient
excuse for not winning a certain race, But then being
in the club right after that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh man, that man was sick.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
He was he was cold, he had Yeah you see
us intro. I've never seen a dude walk on the
track like that in my life and act like if
that was his flu game. It sure didn't look like
Jordan that flu game.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Dang, oh man, you know what happens. Well, listen, it
was a fun ride.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I appreciate the the Olympics, you know, a good solid
two weeks of content here as we get ready for
the NFL season.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's time, though, It's time for that.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, we got preseason man, you got these rookies bawling.
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and One of those conversations is the debut of Caleb Williams,
seen and featured a lot on Hard Knocks, discussed all
through the offseason. He made his debut against the Bills
on Saturday in a preseason game. I don't know what
you guys thought of the debut, and there's some other
debuts we're going to get to, but Caleb Williams seemed
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to showcase the skill set that many people have been
talking about over the past couple of years and why
he was the consensus number one pick even going back
to last year.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
I actually think he will Like the NFL offenses are
better suited for Caleb Williams to showcase his skill And
it might sound a little bit odd insane that because
you want a Heisman in college, but like hear me
out for a second, Caleb Williams throwing on the run
is absolutely incredible, Like I used, probably one of the
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best quarterbacks like entering into the NFL throwing on the run,
as far as accuracy, the ability to shape throws, the
ability to throw across his body, do things that most can't,
and literally stepping in the NFL is one of the
best I've ever seen ever and one of the things
that if you go back to his time at Southern Cal,
there's not a lot of offense like you're gonna see
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in the in the NFL in the sense of you
can put them under center, you can run more boots,
you can run more sprintouts, you can run more.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Move the pockets.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
He was oftentimes just kind of sitting in shotgun and
if things broke down, then you saw his ability to
throw on the run and create because his athleticism ability
to buy time. But in the NFL, every single week,
it's all about matchups, and so your offense has all
these different wrinkles and tools and things in there toward
they change.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
And the other thing is is there's you know.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Obviously you throw the football more than you do running
the football, but it's much closer to a fifty to
fifty split than in college football and some cases, and
for him, I think that's going to allow him to
play from under center a little bit more. It's going
to allow him to actually, you know, be in a
normal drop back passing game showcase all these different things
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that he's capable of doing, but not have to do
it in the manner that he did it at Southern
cal where it felt like it was off script or
scrambling or buying time or having to make a play
like it'll be more by design, And I think that's
one of the things that should help him, I think,
become an absolute star at the next level. But he's
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been phenomenal so far, kind of as you would expect
with all the hype around him and everything that he'd
showcase during his time in college.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I'll say this, he he definitely show that he can
play at this level, which is first and foremost the
initial thing you want to see is that he can
handle being out there. I will say with the caveat
that the one time that it would be doable to
have success.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Would be in the.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I mean, let's just be clear. You're gonna have defenses
that are not really going to show schematically what they're
planning on doing to be able to try to limit
a guy that you have to game plan against, So
don't I don't take too much from it other than
the fact that he looked like he was comfortable. He
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looked like he had command and control over what he
was doing as as the general to feel general for
the offense, and that should be a positive that you
take away from it. I just I think that the
conversation has changed so dramatically in how you speak on
preseason just because of who's playing. And then you take
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in the other elements. Like I said, a defensive coordinator
is not scheming for the Chicago Bears offense in the preseason.
You're seeing what guys are capable of doing and seeing
who's going to fill the roles that are available to
them on their roster or so. But I do think
that is a good start. I don't. I don't look
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at it as there was anything that would make me
feel as though it would give you pause on thinking
that Caleb Williams can live up to the I guess
the expectation of what people are thinking he's going to be.
I will I will, I guess also say and to
that that I guess in that vein, I still kind
of look at it from the standpoint of can he
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have the type of year because he's going to be
judged off of Again, you're going to put the best
of the best out there because they think he's the best.
So you're going to compare him the guys to Patrick Mahomes.
You're going to compare him to what CJ. Stroud did
this past season. Can he block out that noise? Can
he actually outplay what what a c J. Stroud did
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last season? I think there are going to be a
few questions that are big questions for him and his
His level of accomplishment and achievement may be fear or unfair,
but I do think he's going to be judged and
held to a different, you know, standard or different expectation
than probably any other quarterback that that's been taken in
this year's draft and made me in other drafts as well.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
He was asked afterwards Caleb Williams whether or not his
performance was reassuring coming back and playing in his first
preseason game.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
There is an understandment that it is preseason that you know,
everybody's not going to show their looks and you know
what they would do versus and vice versa. But it
definitely is, you know, it definitely feels good to get
out there.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The last time I was.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Out there on the field other than practice, it was
November eighteen, and it's you know, you go that long
without something, it's it's it's tough, but you know, it's
been great. The guys have made it fun. They made
it easy on me. So to get out there and
and and and have the confidence you know that we
had out there, it's it's only going to get better
and we can't wait.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Kind of wild to think November eighteenth was the last
time we played. It's a long ass time ago. And
then he gets thrown and do an NFL game a
preseason or not, and to perform the way that he did.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
There was also a.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Little like, isn't every rookie quarterback pretty much thrown into that?
I mean, I'm just saying like that they're going to
end either November or December or maybe being in January,
but it's always gonna be a long wait like that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
There was a moment there where and maybe I'm just
looking too far into this, but where he rolled out
and as he was rolling out like one of his
first drive it might have been his first drop back
as a quarterback in the NFL, and he notices that
there's some illegal contact or a hole that was happening
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in front of him on the offensive line, and he
turns as he's on the run and looks to the
official behind him to call for a hold. And I
thought to myself he's like none of this is too
big for him, Like it seems like everything is at
the right speed, at the right pace, Like he doesn't
seem like he's overwhelmed or any of it is is
confusing or anything like that. And you just saw somebody's
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like the decisions, the throws, little thing like that, which
is why just being in Chicago last week, they are
all in on Caleb Williams. It's everywhere it should be.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
This should be.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
He's a He's a you know, franchise changing type of talent.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean, that's truthfully what he is.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
And to your point about that, like the things I've
always appreciated about him is I've always seen a few
instances and it really was last year when he played
you know, at s where he pressed. Usually he does
a great job of letting the game come to him,
and I think his ability to improvise, his ability to
get outside the pocket and throw on the run probably
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gives him that confidence because he always knows he has.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
That in his back pocket.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
If if anything does happen off script, he can execute
as good as anyone. And so that's probably why that's
the case. But to your point, I mean, he's so
far checked that box of being able to handle the
preseason speed that all come down to to the regular season,
which is another level up, like LeVar touched on, and
we'll see how he adjust not necessarily throughout the course
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the season, but like end game, because every single series,
defense are doing something different to shut you down, and
defense are making adjustments.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's the biggest thing that he's going.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
To have to overcome is how teams go about trying
to keep him in the pocket and trying to make
him play from the pocket, and then putting pressure on
him in a variety of ways once he's played enough
and they feel like he's got some tendencies.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It felt like a majority of the first round quarterbacks
performed pretty well.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I don't know if that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Like Jayden Daniels was brief, not bad. JJ McCarthy looked okay,
Bo Nicks looked great.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
For Denver, I'll say this going just going back to
Caleb Williams, the one thing that did really stand out
for me and the few reps that he took is
that he's not scared. He's not nervous, like he's not
going to get at least for now. It didn't seem
as though he could get rattled into, you know, as
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Q mentioned kind of like pushing or forcing to try
to make plays. I mean, you look at that screenplay
that they ran. It took some It took real bravery,
It took courage to execute that. Like people will say, oh,
look at the throw, the way he flicked it, you know,
and got it out. I say, look at how long
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he held it. Look at how much time he gave
the running back in the offensive line and everybody to
get in position and still not take a sack and
be able to deliver the ball the way that he did.
Those are the things to me that scare you as
a defender. You know, when when somebody can they can
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take that lack of fear and can actually execute at
a high level on the go like that as a quarterback.
That's what's going to keep defensive coordinators up at night,
like what are we going to do? The kid can run.
I mean he might have. I don't think it's a
stretch to say he's probably a better runner than Patrick Mahomes.
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He has the same type of a way of going
about throwing the ball and delivering the ball and reading
the field like a Patrick Mahomes does. I think he
has more athletic ability than he does as well. So
if he does take off and run, We've seen Patrick
Mahomes dismantled defenses and make it harder to defend them
because he creates that man on man. You know that matchup,
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you got to have somebody who can keep up with
Patrick Mahomes. You're not just going to get them with
a defensive lineman. So that's I think it's a scary
proposition to see that Caleb Williams is so comfortable so
quickly and so early in this early stage of his career.
Because to have that confidence and that ability to stand
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in there and know what it is that you're getting
yourself into, it can make him super dangerous moving forward. Man,
what about that frozen rope to Cole Commet on the run?
A think about that? I mean, he's he's I mean,
he just he showed that he's special, that's for certain.
And it does look like it translates into the pro game.
And that's what you want to see in the preseason
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because you could, I mean there could there's been some
trash quarterbacks. I have to have great preseasons. I mean
I was on a team that won five games. We
went we went four four four O four five and
oh four no, and in the preseason and didn't win
like like we won like three games in the regular season,
if that counts as eight total. I'm just saying I've
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seen it where teams can have great success offenses, defenses,
players like, oh yeah, this guy who is a guy?
Who is the quarterback? You say, Danny, It's it's not
so much about the quarterback. It's about just the given
circumstances of what the preseason represents. Danny Warfol it was.
I do believe it was Danny Warfold that was the quarterback.
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Why Danny Warfole catches straight? He didn't catch a straight?
He played very well. We thought we was gonna do
something with the former Heisman Trophy winner and Florida great.
You know, before there was Tim Tebow, there was Danny
warfol You know, I'm just saying we thought we had
it together. Had there are a whole lot of a
whole lot of work to do.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You know, there is this like kind of behind the
scenes thing for like backup quarterbacks where you try to,
you know, rack up yards in the preseason because you know,
the starter. So if if you're in a position where
you are the backup, you do keep tabs on, like
who's leading in like passing yards to preseason, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Like you're always kind of keeping tabs on all.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Though, because oh yeah, because like it's the last playing
time you get until something happens during the season. So
if you go into a season, like a preseason like that,
like you people definitely keep tabs on some of that.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I'll say this much.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
I remember, I think Luke McCown and I want to
say Josh too, when he was a backup, the mccowns
would always always dime it up during preseason and like
have a ton of yards. I think Luke in particular,
I remember a couple a couple of preseasons where like
he would have a crap ton of yards every single time.
Were like day we got to catch loot Man. But
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I'm pretty sure is one of the two accounts.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Wait, how about Trey Lance having forty one pass the
times yesterday?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He ain't got many? Got many? Damn? How about your
boy Michael Pennix. But it's the preseason though, you know
it's the preseason. Hey, By the way, do you think
Pennix is going to start a game this That's what
I'm saying. It's the preseason. I think he is, But
I think the bigger question up is he going to
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win the job outright and start a game or is
it going to be due to some type of an
injury that sets Kirk Cousins back and sets him up
to lose his job. Either way, it's just pretty stressed.
If I'm Kirk Cousins. I know I'm getting the money,
but that's a tap bit stressful for my playing time.
I mean, Kirk Cousins said it recently.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That he would have or the report was that, Yeah,
if I would have known this would have been the plan,
I would have entertained the idea of going back to
Minnesota on a one year deal, because at least Minnesota
was upfront with him about what their plan was, and
Atlanta was like, no, We're just gonna go ahead and
take uh take Michael Pennock's number eight.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So that is the the quick check on all of
the any any other quarterback play jump out to you
guys other than Stetson Bennett, uh, you know, serving it
enough a few times for the for the Rams against
the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
JJ McCarthy looked pretty good. I do.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
That's the one I wonder about because there was this
report that came out that they the Vikings plan is
Sam Darnold will be the starter. JJ McCarthy, you know,
most likely going to ride the bench. But he looked
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
U he responded after.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
What I liked about him is he threw an early
interception and then after that he really responded with it.
So it's he kind of battled through if you want
to call adversity or whatever else. I was curious though,
watching that preseason game. I want to see between Minshew
and O'Connell if someone would have the edge, and Minshew
obviously in the stat line, you know, had a little
bit more than than O'Connell, but they both played decently well.
(29:04):
So that quarterback battle's going to keep moving forward.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I think.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
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to do so here as we've got a lot to
look at when it comes to the NFL. The Olympics
are finally over. Also, could somebody please explain to me
what the hell happened with Jordan Chiles? Like, Brady, do
you do you have intel on this situation from the misses?
That sucks as it.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Is one of the My mind's blown how this can happen.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
So let's just go over the entire process of scoring.
So scoring in gymnastics, there's execution, which is based on
you start with a score of ten and then for
every deduction right, it goes down from there, and then
you have difficulty, which is basically you know what you
(30:26):
know kind of routine, you have what elements of the
routine are in there, and they determine a start value
for you of difficulty.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
So it's the.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Combination of execution based on the judges and then the
difficulty of the routine. So as long as you do
everything you're supposed to do in the routine. Let's just say,
to make math easy, if the difficulty is a six
point zero, and let's say you got eight point zero
in execution, you combine the two scores to get fourteen points. Okay,
(30:56):
that's how in essence, that's an example how scoring's done.
So in this instance, for Jordan Giles, what happened was
is when she did her routine, they thought her start
value or her difficulty was a five point eight. Now
it's actually a five point nine. Now, the reason why
(31:19):
someone could potentially say it was a five point eight
it's either by error they simply didn't know what the
start value was or miscalculated or it was sure, or
there's an element or a part of her routine that
she didn't do.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
And so the process works like this.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
There's an appeal because there's three judges who will make
or calculate the score for that performance. But then when
you appeal, it goes to a higher judge who will
then say, like, no, she did everything that was in
that routine, And in this case, the judge said, basically, yeah,
her start value should have been five point nine, not
(31:58):
five point eight. Difference in that tenth of a point
was the difference in her being third place, winning the
bronze or fourth place. So now the Romanian I guess
Olympic committee whatever their organization is, they appealed this and
so they said they didn't get the appeal.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
The US didn't get the appeal and in time.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
So there's for some reason, there's a timing mechanism to
after the athlete performs, you have only a minute or
so to verbally get in your appeal, and apparently the
US was four seconds late, is.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
What they're saying.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Now this is this is up for debate, but I
think the greater point that bothers me, not like just
for Jordan Childs, but like any Olympic athlete or in
this case just gymnastics, is why is there a limit
on the time to appeal something like if there was
clearly a mathematical air and the routine was done, that
was there, you know she stated she was going to do, Like,
(32:59):
why are you cheating her out of a medal? Then
based on the fact that you didn't have the proper addition?
It's it's it's mind boggled, Like this is something that
really should be changed forever more moving forward. And it's
not just about it being a US you know, athlete,
and my wife's involved in all this. It's more because
it's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard for
someone being having a medal taken away from them.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
That sucks. Wow, heck of a way to lose your eye,
because it just kind of spoils the whole thing for
everybody because no matter who, because didn't they I saw
that well.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
And by the way, the athlete who who would be
awarded the bronze medal, and no disrespect to that athlete,
but they didn't earn it, Like this is more of
a clerical error or or a fault within the process.
Like Jordan Childs got the score, she got, she got third,
she won bronze. There's no reason they should be taking
that away from her. It's only because of the way
(33:52):
this is set up, apparently with the appeal process. So
instead of saying like we should go back and look
at how we do scoring or how we appealed the scores,
they're just like, no, we're gonna take the medal away.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So now what's the plans. I did see.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
There'll there'll be an appeal for the US, and I think,
based on the knowledge that I have, the US should
win the appeal.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Based on the evidence that so she'll get it back,
she should. Yes.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Now again I'm only speculating because of what I know,
but based on the evidence that they have to support
their appeal, she should be able to get it back.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, that's a good thing. Yeah, it's your metal back girl. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Well, hey, don't be four seconds late though, you know,
especially if Yeah, that's the that's the important part here. Well,
you know, listen, and now now we put these controversies
aside for another four years and la is getting the
Olympics in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Correct, that'll be fun. That'll be fun. Traffic will be
real nice around here. I'm sure during that time as
well too.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Well, what I saw is apparently they're trying to make
sure everything everything's funneled through public transportation.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
And see what I love what I saw. Yeah, well
that sounds like a good idea, Mike.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Mike should try listening to lead the lap stories. You
don't have a lot of people getting chased down being
in front of dirty.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Bike and the boys the field day.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, by the way, I can't wait to see how
how much they clean this up temporarily to make it
look presentable and then as soon as everybody leaves.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Right back by the way, Lee, did you get your
car cleaned?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
No?
Speaker 9 (35:26):
In fact, that that should be my camouflage, so nobody
messes with my car.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
That's actually not the camouflage. It's the you know, the
track it attracts, you know that.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
That's I'm more thinking that, like, honey, based on what
was done in there by dirty Mike.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
I've cleaned it up yet right now, I just right now,
I wouldn't tape holding up my mirror.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Oh no, oh no, I wouldn't take a black life
through that. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Said he was sad walk pimping. For those of you
that might be a tad bit confused. Lead the lap
our producer told a story about how his car got
broken into it by a couple of homeless guys and
he caught him in the act. He caught one in
the act. Yeah, because Joel mentioned he didn't catch the bag. Mamma, jammy,
he got he got the weak link, He got the
(36:23):
weak caught the quarter Stiller.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Yet the big bag single jingle jingle, I get the
bag Stepper Lee roughed up a bum in front of
a valvele Gas.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
And in front of all the workers there.
Speaker 11 (36:42):
So uh, I stopped an old lady from leaving the
valvel into That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Why blocked her way up? What did she do? Well?
She was she was a sorry man. I gotta shake
this guy down. I know you might be late for work,
but uh, you know, I handle this.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
She's on that guy he used to leave laptop though?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Did you see them? That's suggestent jab Yeah, dude, what what?
What show was that? I forget what that is called?
But idio.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So again, for those of you listening in Los Angeles, uh,
in the North Hollywood area, if you do see a
homeless gentleman with a nice nomadic bag and a laptop,
we can assure.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
You it was your nomadic That's what I'm most upset about. Yeah,
that's a nice bag. Yeah, it's a really nice it
really is. It'll come in handy. That guy's gounna have
a uh extra compartment. That's just sturdy.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Tank.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Guy's got a canteen, a sewer rat in the side
pocket like he's walking around the comfortable.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
He's gonna have enough stuff to carry around his home.
You know, I would consider homebo So those bags have
like compartments for everything.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
To say, they definitely do. Got all my flasks to dude,
did he really all of them?
Speaker 9 (38:04):
All the plastic game, the metal, my teealing one, my
uh Jagermeister one, and yes, my plastic.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
One is taking the games. Let's go on eBay and
see if we see.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
You got that tealing one from Ireland. I did, dude,
when we were out with Dan Patrick and the gags.
Oh man, that's a bomber well and my passport.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
It's just like, hey, Lee, what are you gonna do
if this guy all of a sudden starts impersonating he like,
what does that say about you? That a hallless guy
basically steal your identity?
Speaker 11 (38:41):
Does not say good for I mean he does have
the computer to be able to do it, you know
what I mean, take out a couple of loans whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
The fact that this guy is going to be going
through Lee's bag seeing all his flasks, going hey man,
this guy's got a real problem.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Actually, Lee, what would you do if he reached out
to He's like Actually I think we could be friends.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I heard that's how I met todd.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Man. Lee.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
How long were you going?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
You went in for how long?
Speaker 9 (39:14):
And he left the door a few minutes, which is
I got caught talking to a neighbor.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Set up? I would I would neighbors involved. Yeah, the neighbors.
I can't be mad at the neighbor, but I'm kind
of upset at myself. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
If I could have caught them, right, I could have
caught them even more in the act.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, well I don't know if you want to catch
them with that?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Would had you caught him in
the act, what would you have done? Like, because if
you really wanted to do you would have been afraid.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
He would have said, hey, man.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Hey you guys doing man, give me back my quarters?
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Just you know, you know, the other side was open.
You could have just opened the door. He's got to
break my way. He's got a rolled up job. Application
they start running, No, I know.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
That a bum? Is that an advertiser? It's a silver bullet.
It looks like McDonald's. Oh no, run run again. Like
(40:26):
it's just too much, man, this is just too much
Lee life. It's just unbelievable. It's like you said, I
love the way they plotted on it. He's like, hey,
that neighborhood they.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Conspired, like they they picked him out.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
They're like, hey, whatever, that guy has been picking up
our poop in the sidewalk. Oh, I've seen this guy.
See where we're gonna get him. I've seen what he tries.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
He thinks he's one of us. Look at that car
we were gonna rob last week. Oh no, oh.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
No, I'll tell you that neighbor was involved. That was
a setup. They were distracting you so they could get
your stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Was it a lady or do lady?
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You go bring back his passport, just lay it on
the Here you go.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
We know where you live.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
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(41:42):
Apparently there was a news conference that took place in Boulder,
and he just decided he had a little bit of
an issue with CBS as a whole. After being asked
a couple of questions here Sanders.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Eric Kristensen was CEBA Sports Colorado.
Speaker 7 (41:59):
See Tylers, I'm not doing none with CBS. Next question,
it's above that you got none to do with you.
I got love for you, I appreciate, respect you, and
got none to do with you. They know what they did.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I'm here in Denver, not national. You are who you are, CBS.
The CBS all right with you. I respect you.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
And that's why I told you that I'm looking at
you and now as a man, I respect you.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I got love for you. But what they did was foul.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
So not talking about the coaches ranking, yeah, what we're
talking about. They ranked him the second to last bat like.
They basically said, he's the worst coach, one of the
worst coaches.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
In the Big twelve Big Coach, which came from CBS
Sports dot Com, which does not have anything to do
with the CBS affiliate that's out there in Denver, which
is why the reporter was trying to point that out
to him.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Unfortunately, he was unaware of that, so That's.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
What is a little bit unfortunate about it, is like
this guy is just trying to do it.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
You can't even do it because.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Of something that Dan's confused with, what the actual rankings
where they come from.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I don't think he cared CBS with CBS in that
moment that I just felt like, to me.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Works.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I think the whole, the whole idea of it. I
think just this is just me one person's opinion. I
think he could have handled it differently than what he did.
Certainly could have handled because if you're going to go
out of your way to tell him how much you
love him and you respect them and you appreciate him,
then you could have handled it. I would at least said,
(43:37):
like explain it, like you know what you did, okay,
but just explain it, you know what I mean, Like
have the back and forth about like why you feel
that way. Even though people I guess know I would
have still I just would have handled that one differently.
Like you are. You are the head coach of the team.
Everybody isn't going to write and say and do things
(43:59):
that you're going to like. I mean, that just is
what it is. I mean, you are prime people love you,
but they are there are going to be people that
take swipes at you and listen, if you don't like it,
you can fix it. That's that's how it is. And
and on the playing field competing, you don't like it,
you can fix it. I just don't I don't know
(44:20):
that you get so butt hurt that you don't want
to do you don't want to do the interview. It
does feel like it's open season on Prime in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
But here's the thing that people I think miss sometimes
with Beat reporters, which obviously this guy is working for
CBS Denver, you know, Dion Colorbado. Is a huge story
oftentimes that people who are Beat reporters are like fans.
There are sometimes the lums of the of the university
in this case, but they're they're ultimately fans of the school.
(44:50):
They're fans of the team, like they're you know, really,
you kind of should look at it more as like
your media arm like you're you're I mean, unbiased at
least the on how it looks. But and I don't
know how LaVar if you experienced that, but I always
felt like all the Beat reporters that I was around,
regardless of whatever team I played for in the NFL
(45:11):
the well, but they want you to do well, but
they want you to win so they can write about
it like they're along for the ride too. If Colorado wins,
the Big Twelve goes to the playoff, like they're going
to like that makes their season more fun and more memorable,
and that's why they're a part of it.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
So I just don't understand, and I don't.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Understand why you're going to ostracize those people who are
there supporting you, like hoping that you're turning it around,
you know, and trying to you know right, you know,
do their job to write the stories of the coach
the players, because that's the other thing too, is you know,
who knows what he was going to talk about or
ask about, but it then steals away an opportunity for
(45:51):
him to talk about one of the young many coaches,
which is really what it should be all about.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
I just feel like sports is like everybody loves the
ultimate underdog, right, use that to your advantage. Don't don't
make people like feel like I'm not rooting for this
dude like it. Maybe he doesn't care because his popularity
is so high at this point, I don't know, but
like to me, it's like, okay, like CBS, yep, y'all said,
I'm basically a trash a trash head coach, Like y'all
(46:21):
got me second to last in rankings a Big twelve
coaches Like, Okay, I see y'all and I appreciate that motivation,
and I appreciate y'all giving me you know what y'all
feel I'm deserving of, Like, let's see what we can do,
you know what I mean? Like to me, I felt
like that would have played so far and so deep
into building continuing to build this brand of overachiever for
(46:45):
Dion as as a head coach. I felt like it
was a missed opportunity. I mean, what do you think
Kenny Dillingham thinks he was last. There was some off
brand schools on there too. And then the fact that
you can't say, well, it's it's a Big twelve thing
because you rank a Utah team number one, you rank
Utah state number one, Well, Utah, but Utah Utah?
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Yeah, I mean what they are in the Big twelve now, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
They are right, but it's a former Pac twelve school, Yeah,
Kyle Woodingham's stud Yeah, So there you go, and.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
They are the favorite to win it, which I do
wonder how much that plays a little bit of a
factor in it.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I think that I think that that is super offensive.
If you're Dion Sanders, well, you.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
Have to understand they're near the conference too, right right.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I love it they just left the same conference, just
like I.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Just love the fact that he's It's prime. Like, he
will throw down with Andre Ryzen on the field. He
will dump ice on Tim McCarver post game after a
playoff game. He will he will make rap videos. He
will do what he pleases. And if he doesn't like
that CBS did this, everybody at CBS affiliate or not
gets astray.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
There's no connection. I feel bad for that guy.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
Like, I mean, I obviously work for CBS Sports, right,
Like I want to work for CBS Sports dot com.
Like he could technically plump me into that. I'm like,
I didn't write this, I didn't vote on any of this.
I don't even know who wrote the article.
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