September 11, 2024 • 43 mins
Dan discusses the new lawsuit against Browns QB Deshaun Watson. Jimmy Fallon shares stories from his days at Saturday Night Live. And Mike Golic Sr. reacts to Notre Dame's upset loss against Northern Illinois.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So we got a few things to talk about here.
Christian McCaffrey is if he for Week two, Panthers lose
their best player. Now you're probably not aware that Derek
Brown is their best player, but coming off of Pro
Bowl season defensive tackle, he's gone for the year. Justin
Fields likely to start for Pittsburgh in Denver. This was
one of the more expensive tickets preseason because it was
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Russell Wilson going back to Denver and Bronco fans were
ready to welcome him. And it's looking like Justin Fields
will get the start against the Broncos. Also, the NFL
is looking at a new Deshaun Watson lawsuit. It's new
because it's been refiled, but it's from an old charge
back in twenty twenty. There was immediate speculation yesterday out
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of Cleveland that this was maybe fed to the Cleveland
media to bring up and now maybe away for Cleveland
ownership to get out of this contract with Deshaun Watson.
So the timing of this very curious. Yes, it's from
an old chart. Now you know the Cleveland Browns ownership
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is already said basically, we don't care what he did
off the field. You brought him in, you paid him
two hundred and thirty million dollars. I don't know if
you can go, hey, he's not playing well boy. We're
really disappointed that this charge lawsuit from twenty twenty has
come back up refiled. Now, is there a way to
get out of this contract? I mean, I wouldn't put
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it past Brown's ownership that they would do something like this,
and they're looking at buyer's remorse here with Deshaun Watson.
But that came up yesterday. It was like, okay, somebody's
refiling a lawsuit twenty twenty, and then all of a sudden,
it's coud the Browns get out of this contract with
Deshaun Watson. I don't know the legalities of that, but
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if the NFL's look into it, I guess there's the possibility.
I don't know the language there with I don't know
if they put any language in his contract. When you
think about it, hey, we're going to take you. What
you did off the field is criminal, certainly creepy, but hey,
we're going to give you two hundred and thirty million dollars.
We're not that bothered by it, And now all of
(02:21):
a sudden, can you say you're bothered by it? Is
there language in his contract that would allow you to
get out from underneath a two hundred and thirty million
dollar contract. Everything is guaranteed. I guess if I'm the
Browns ownership, sure, I mean, my moral compass isn't pointing,
you know, in the right direction to begin with with
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Deshaun Watson. So if you decide that, you go, yeah,
let's get out of this. I don't know if somebody's
going to go, Wow, what a lack of integrity. You've
already shown it. You brought in to Shaun Watson. Now,
he said he's got other things on his mind, a
couple of deaths in the family. His father died, and
he'd didn't play well. He hasn't played well, But that
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was not something that we worried about with Deshaun Watson.
Deshaun Watson when he played with Houston played pretty well
for a bad team. He didn't want to go to Cleveland.
I'm told he wanted to go to Atlanta. Cleveland said, no,
you want to go to Cleveland. Everything is guaranteed, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
There's a couple of articles out there.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
It's very a lot of legal ease.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
But to summarize, there's things in Shaan Watson's contract that
under the category of default, like let's say you go
skydiving and gets hurt. You know, the typical stuff that
everybody has. But he has some things in there that
the normal player might not certain things around conduct detrimental,
being suspended under the NFL's Personal conduct policy, performance stancing drugs,
et cetera. Also, he has a clause if the club
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reasonly believes that he's engaged in personal conduct, et cetera,
et cetera. So he has a number of clauses in
the contract that the normal player might not have because
of his previous situations.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, but these are pre existing lawsuits. This isn't something
new that's come up that to me is would be
a non starter with you know, conduct detrimental. This was
before you've already signed off on Deshaun Watson. You can't
be bothered by one lawsuit if you weren't bothered by
twenty three lawsuits. And I would say if something came
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up now, okay, you know, but they're talking about things
that would come up now, player charged with indicted for
convicted of conduct which would be subject to a charge,
indictment or conviction or any such offense. Okay, I mean
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that's for the duration of his contract. But I don't
know if Deshaun Watson disclosed things that were there allegations.
Did they know this was coming, you know, before he
signs this contract, before the Browns gave him the contract.
I'm gonna guess you're not going to sign him if
you think that there's the possibility that he could go
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to jail, be suspended. But now this came up, and
it's from a charge a lawsuit in twenty twenty from
what I've read, and the immediate speculation. Now, if he
was playing well, people wouldn't care about this. But he
has not played well. And you start to look at
that Cleveland team, and they do have talent there. I
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know they don't have Nick Chubb. Amari Cooper is a
quality receiver, he's not a number one receiver. David and
Joku can be really good. Jerry Judy, I don't know
if he's ever gonna be. I mean, he just strikes
me as somebody who was fast at Alabama and didn't
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do much after that, and I don't know. It's not
bad to have a third receiver like that, but I
just don't know how much he cares about playing football.
And then you got I mean, I got Miles Garrett.
Like it feels like you have things. You went to
the playoffs with Joe Flacco. It just seems like if
you have Deshaun Watson back. I mean, it's not similar
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to Aaron Rodgers, but it does feel like they went
to the playoffs with Joe Flacco Deshaun Watson there, they
should be even better. The Jets won seven games with
Zach Wilson. They should be better with Aaron Rodgers. But
you know, the Cleveland Browns, they went to the playoffs
and now all of a sudden you're looking at them now.
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Granted Dallas, Dallas is a better team, but Dallas hit
Deshaun Watson seventeen times. It was the league high for
a game. And if you say, well, compare the numbers.
The next closest was eleven times a quarterback was hitting
the game.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So that's a whoa.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Stall a day, Stana Day, Stanaaday, Stanaaday.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
He says.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Stat of Theday brought to you by Panani America. I
said it yesterday on the show, and Paulie goes, are
you sure about seventeen? I go, yes, the Browns hit
h He got hit seventeen times by the Cowboys in
that game. Now you're going to be a little gun
shy if just about every play you're dropping back to
pass you're going to get hit. You know, you're going
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to start to think about it. You're going to get
it down a little quicker. He looked uncomfortable the entire game.
But is this about Deshaun Watson? Is it about the
Cleveland Browns. It feels like, you know, the onus is
on Deshaun Watson, like we're paying and he should be great.
You're paying him, you gave him guaranteed. Now you were desperate.
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I got to factor that in as well, Denver desperate.
I got to factor that in as well. With Russell Wilson,
you know, these franchises act stupid. Sometimes brilliant businessmen to
make billions and then they act stupid. I mean what
the Giants did with Daniel Jones. Don't understand it. Don't
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understand it. And the Browns you spend that kind of
money under Sean Watson I don't think you can be
incredulous to say I can't believe it, because when I
saw it, I thought, is this a new one?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Was he getting a massage in Cleveland? Now all of
a sudden you got grounds to maybe terminate that contract.
This is from twenty twenty, and you've already moved past this.
Ownership wise, it's like, yeah, boy, that's terrible what he did.
Here's two hundred and thirty million dollars. Come on in,
all's forgotten with us. We don't care, yes, Marmon.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
And it was guaranteed, and I'm sure other owners were
looking at the Browns like, woa, this is the guy
you're giving. First of all, don't give him guaranteed money.
Don't give this guy guaranteed money.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
The ownership was not happy with that around the NFL,
from what I'm told. But you see how much Dak
Prescott's got contracts guaranteed two hundred thirty one million dollars.
Do you think it's just a two thirty and then
he coincidentally got a two hundred thirty one million dollar deal.
I don't think so, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
What makes even worse for Cleveland is that they have
to watch Baker Mayfield throw for twenty eight touchdowns and
ten picks at one third the price.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Right. Yeah, uh so you know you have these contracts.
The Cowboys officially tied to Dak Prescott for the next
four seasons, and you know you have to these teams
take a chance. Denver took a chance Cleveland. You know,
they had to get rid of the number one overall
pick Baker Mayfield to make way for Deshaun Watson, and
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Baker has played really well. Deshaun Watson's played thirteen games
in two seasons. The Broncos whiffed on Russell Wilson. They
gave him two hundred and forty five million dollars. The
experiment lasted two seasons. They're paying him over thirty five
million dollars to not play for them, to play for
this Steelers teams are aggressive, but if we've learned anything
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from these quarterbacks, a proven commodity holds tremendous value in
today's NFL. You got to overpay sometimes. Then there are
times when you're going to whift. I just don't know
how Denver can say, come on in and we got
to trade guys. I guess it. That's a terrible deal.
Deshaun Watson is a terrible deal. That's because ownership is
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desperate to find their franchise quarterback.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Yes, he when do we start looking at if the
Broncos whiffed with their head coach, I would say the
development of Bo Nicks. I mean, he probably bought himself
two seasons because if Russ continued to play and play poorly, then.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We would look at the head coach there. But I
I mean when Sean Payton came in, he said, this
is a mess and this coach that's one of the
worst coaching jobs ever. And then Sean did not like
Russell Wilson wasn't his kind of quarterback, and he was
going to get rid of him very costly. But now
(11:12):
you got your guy. Now you got your next Drew
Brees or you better hope because if not, you'll have
two seasons to prove yourself.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Yes, Mark, if you're a Browns fan, ooh, you're hoping
that the Texans don't win the Super Bowl, like, oh,
not a game.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, there's a couple of teams like Carolina. Better hope
that the Texans don't win the Super Bowl because I
mean I watched when Bryce Young threw the pick six
and he went over to the bench and it was
like somebody brought their son to work day and he
was just kind of sitting there, you know when your
kids don't want to be someplace and they're kind of moping,
and he just had this really sad look on his face.
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And I don't know him. I think we had him
on during the draft, but I feel bad for him.
Like there's certain situations where you go, I don't know
if it gets any better. I don't know how it
gets much better because it's Carolina. With that ownership. You
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lose your best player, Bryce Young goes. I mean imagine
going to the line of scrimmage going, oh my god,
I'm going to be running for my life. We don't
have any weapons. This ain't Alabama.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Do I have any eligibility left? Maybe I'll go back
to Alabama, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
It's like the lifestyle is so different for like brock Purty.
He goes, I could run it, or I could drop
back and comforty pass it to a number of people,
and I'm probably gonna have a lot of time to do.
So it's like they're playing two different football games.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Those guys and you know, here's the Niners with now
Christian McCaffrey, and it's not a big deal. He may
not play this next game. Okay, I get what other
Let's say he was on another team. Let's say he
was in Carolina. This would be a huge deal if
Christian McCaffrey couldn't play.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But with the.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Niners, all right, you know, we got this guy over here,
Jordan Mason. He seemed to do really well. We're fine.
I mean, that is depth, that is a luxury. Here
the best player or the number one fantasy player, and
you're like, yeah, okay, we'll see when he gets back.
(13:22):
And this is one of those injuries that stays with you.
I've mentioned before, if you have a sprained ankle, you're
always going to have it because it'll be you'll be
more susceptible to getting a sprained ankle. Now, this is
tendonitis that Christian McCaffrey has. This has been there and
going to be there probably his entire career. There are
certain injuries that are lasting injuries, and this is one
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that will stay with him. They said it flared up,
and in fairness to the Niners, I'll believe then that
it flared up and then they decided they weren't going
to have him suit up in that game.
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Speaker 2 (14:45):
Jimmy Fallon, host of The Tonight Show. Look, who's turning
fifty years of age? How is that possible? You're kind
of are you taking whatever Paul Rudd is taking or
Jason Bateman.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, now I'm starting to but it's happening. Fifties coming, It's.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Here okay, and you know, you get to be fifty,
you start playing a little more golf. Maybe you're not
doing as much work. You maybe want to slow down
a little bit now you're out there. You know, with
this grudge match with DJ Collin, how did this come about?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I just thought I followed DJ khaled on all the
socials and the Instagrams and stuff, and so I'm looking
at he keeps posting these photos of him playing golf,
and he looked like he'd be fun to play with
if he also looked like someone I could beat.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm not that good. Yeah, can you play?
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I mean, I'm East Coast, I'd say probably. I'm not
kidding five to ten times a year. It looks like
he plays a whole lot more than that. Jimmy, Yeah,
I think he lives on a golf course.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Do you think about putting money up other than somebody
gets a nice cardigan, like make it interesting? Where As
Tiger Woods once said to me when I said I'd
like to play in golf, what are we playing for?
You said, whatever makes you nervous?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Oh my god? Can I tell you, though, how nervous
I actually did get?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Because so it's obviously I'm doing this to be fun
and to make a funny thing. But we had a
real PJ official it's we play four holes. We're at
in Lake Tahoe, so we're after the We had the
cameras stay after the American Century Championship.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
We asked NBC to do as a favor. This whole
thing came about in like two weeks.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
But you get you get up to the seventeenth holes
a par three, and there's five thousand people screaming, and
then when you're about to swing, they're quiet.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
And it's the most nerve wracking thing I've ever done
in my life. I mean, I'm a canedian. I don't
do that. I felt like an athlete. I'm like, oh
my gosh, this is the pressure man.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
And so when you see the first shot, it's it's
it's I don't want to spoiler it, but it's something
so ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
It feels like something you see in a movie.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well like, as a comedian, the last thing you want
to hear is silence, Like you're right.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Completely all was running around trying to hype everyone up.
You know, it was funny.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
We were talking to I sent DJ Khala to a
text and I said, hey, dude, you just look like
it'd be fun to play with.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Maybe we could.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I could challenge you on the show and we'll do something.
He goes, yeah, maybe i'd be done with I just
gotta check my schedule. And then I just challenged him
on the show for real, and I said, the winner
will get instead of a green blazer like the master's blazer,
gets a red cardigan sweater and we really hype it
up and that'll be the that'll be the gift that
the winner gets. So I challenged him on the show live,
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and the next day he happened to be in New
York and he came on the show and accepted. And
then we called them and seeing me like how can
we do this? And they're like, you can't. You can't
just era an eighteen home match?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Can you play? I go not really, I mean i'd
say I'm double bogie golf. You know, I don't know
if you want to?
Speaker 6 (17:52):
He goes, No, one wants to watch that for five hours.
It's boring, So I go, so let's think of another
way to do it. So it's four holes, there's a
it's a breakfast ball that it's actually fascinating television.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Is there drinking involved? Not for me, there wasn't, But
for that crowd in Tahoe. Oh yeah, Oh my goodness, dude.
I was like Dan, I was like, yeah, I get
to get out.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Of here, dude.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
It was really maybe I would say five to ten
thousand people, I'll go nuts.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You can see what coming up Friday. So this Friday,
it'll be eleven thirty five Eastern. So normally when you
watch the Tonight Show with Jimmy, you'll be able to
see the four whole.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Now I think.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
I think if you're a sports bar, you should have
a full on raging party this Friday night at your bar.
And if you wear a cardigan into the bar, you
get a drink special, get one from your grandma, get
whatever you can get at cardigan sweater, go in and go.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah. Jimmy said that there'll be a drink special tonight
if I wore a cardigan.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
It's because it's when you're going to see a live,
an unaired sporting event at you know, Friday night, Friday,
at eleven thirty at night, it's perfect bar time.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Who's easier to interview if I said musicians, actors, athletes.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
I would say athletes number three, definitely. I'd say I'd
say probably actors. Actors number one, then musicians than athletes.
I feel like athletes are tougher because they've trained their
whole life to be an athlete, not really talk.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
You know, it's not a gift that they trained for.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
So it's it's kind of they have great stories, but
they're not really media trained. You know, where actors are
and musicians. I think my favorite part is comedians, just
because that's where I got my start and I get
to goof off with all those guys like Will Ferrell.
I can send him an idea, he won't even read it,
and they'll just say yes, I go, no, you should
(19:53):
read it first.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Will. He's like, no, trut, I go, I have you
dressed this little debbie. He's like, yeah, no, I love it.
We'll figure it out, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
But I'm fascinated by all of them, you know, I'm
interested in everybody I have. I once said Drew Brees
on the show, and he was great, and we did
a game where we were throwing footballs and breaking plates. Okay,
very high quality television, and he was playing against Taylor Loudner,
who was a great actor in all the Twilight movies.
(20:24):
And so I picked up a plate and I threw
it up and Drew Brees threw it and he missed.
And then I threw a plate up and Taylor Loatner
hit one. So now it's one nothing. Taylor Lotner second one.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I throw up.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Taylor Loutner hits his second plate. If he hits one more,
he wins. All of a sudden, Drew Brees stops having fun.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
He goes into this, He goes into this mode.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Laser red, laser eyes came out of his He was
like jumping up and down and it was like not
fun anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
He was throwing. Before I let go of the plate,
it was disintegrating in my hand. He was like, I'm
not losing to this actor.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, I I experienced that firsthand in Tahoe, of all places.
I'm playing golf with him in a century tournament. I'd
made back to back birdies. I'm on the fringe of
the green with a chance for three in a row.
He walks by me as I'm getting ready to putt,
and he says, I can't believe that you could possibly
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have three birdies in a row, like with such disdain
for me. We got done with the round, Jimmy and
was so upset with his round. He parred the par
five last hole and he walked off the green. He
didn't shake my hand or Ben Roethlisberger's hand. He was
so upset. And I see him the next day and
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I'm like, oh my god. The last guy I want
to run into is Drew Brees. And I'm on the
range and my caddie goes here. He comes. I go,
oh my god. He walks by and he goes, hey, Dan,
how you doing. I go good. He doesn't even say
anything about yesterday. Yeah, and no, he got He did
that whole locked in laser focus. Didn't even shake Ben
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Rothersberger's hand.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
These athletes don't like to lose.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I remember beating Tiger Woods at a video game of
his own game, and he who cares.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I mean, it's a video game, so clearly you're Tiger Woods.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
He got so mad and I go, hey, Tiger, you
know if you hold it was a Nintendo Wii said
if you hold.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
The button down and shake it, it gives you back spin.
He goes, don't tell me how to play my game.
It's this whole thing's a joke. What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (22:31):
But when you see this thing Friday night, it is
so it's so silly, but it's funny, but it's real.
We have an official, a PGA official, so it's all
by the rules. It starts raining, this thunder and lightning,
it gets It's honestly the most everything that could happen happened.
I couldn't have written it better. And he's a great
guy to play with.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Are you still a Judgeman?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah? I am.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
You know, it's kind of that thing where you just
kind of almost I don't know, it's not giving up,
it's just you go, there's other things in life I
can do. I can do others I can I can
water color, paint, I can do anything I could do.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I just don't why why do it to yourself?
Speaker 6 (23:15):
And then I'll find myself rooting for the Giants too,
just because they're New Yorkers and they come on the
show all the time, and straight hand, I'll get mad
if I don't. So, but yeah, you know, I thought,
for a second, I think a lot of Jets fans,
for a second, go this could be.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
We do it every year?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Why would why would we even say that to each other.
Why would we say this could be don't say it.
This course is not the year.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
If you could only watch one of your Saturday Night
Live skits, or you wanted your grandkids to see your
Saturday Night like the one that you go, that's it.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Oh, I mean it's probably would have to be cow
Bell or or with Will or you know.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
My favorite one was Mick Jagger. I did a thing
with Mick Jagger.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
He was on the show and Rolling Stones were on
the show, and Mick wanted to do a sketch and
so I go. Lauren goes, go picture sketch to uh, Mick,
And I go, if you want to go, I'm not
talking to Mick Jack. I'm afraid. I can't you talk
to him. He goes, no, he's cool, go talk to him.
So I wrote down all these ideas. I go, Mick,
I have this idea where me and you are are
work at a Sunglass hut or something.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
He's like, no, no, not that, not that. Ye be
very very very nice to me, very very patient. He goes,
not that. And so before the meeting, I said to Lauren,
maybe I'll do an am pressure of Mick in the
mirror you know, I'll be his reflection.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Lauren goes, please don't do that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
That's been done so many times. Please Lucille Ball did it.
I just don't do it. Man.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
So anyway, so I'm running down these ideas. I go,
how about this idea, Mick, me and you. You're Keith
and I'm Keith and he cloned himself so we can
party with him whatever. And he goes like, nah, no,
not that. I go down like ten ideas. I'm getting sweaty.
I go, what if it's you in the mirror? And
You're like, why am I doing this show again? I've
done it in the seventies eighties, Now what my rooster?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
What my do?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
And he goes, uh, A lot? That A lot that
I did? Yeah, I lot that. And so I had
to go in the Loren's office and say good news
and bad news. Good news. He wants to do a sketch.
Bad news. We're doing the reflection in the mirror.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Then we wrote it on a Friday night, which is
so rare, usually write on a Tuesday night. We were
on a Friday night, got to set down. They made
the best reflective set where everything is backwards in the
mirror and we rehearsed it once and did it on
Saturday night and the place erupted.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
It was a it was I think it was for me.
It was a perfect sketch for me.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Let me, let me see a little bit. You got
a purple like a blouse on or something here?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, I got I'm wearing a purple. We're both
wearing matching Mick Jagger purples satin blouses. And we're like,
what you gon do?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Roosters?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Come on, I'm pulling my finger at you. I'll keep
you know. He's just got out of control.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
And I was brand new on SNL and I remember
he loved it so much that he put his hand
through the mirror and shit my hand and the place
was shaking, and I was hot from all the apply.
It was just really exciting moment for me because I'm
just such a fan of his and I love that sketch.
Any any of those ones where the place rocked, you know,
very lucky to get those sketches.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But even the last year, it felt like on Sunday
Night Live, everybody was intent on cracking you up, like
they the goal was to make you not get through it.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
It was painful, Dan, It was painful everybody because they
knew I'm an easy laugh, you know, I just love
I'm a fan of comedy, and it's very unprofessional to me.
But Will Ferrell would We've been doing a sketch where
we're in a hot tub together and him and Rachel
Dratch were this creepy couple that would get in the
hot tub and like at a hotel.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
At a hotel, there were those creepy couple that would get.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
And he would eat like a duck leg or something
and he go like, how I And then time I talked,
his hand would pinch me under the water.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Because he knew I would start laughing.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh, that's not in the script for him to do it.
He just is pinching, Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, And so he would do that.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Or Molly Shannon would do stuff to just she just knew,
well look at me, just make me laugh. And Tina
Fey would just and they would crack me up, and
I'm like, and her ratio sounds and I would just
get in trouble, and they didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
You know. I had one line in.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Cow Bell and Will Ferrell and Chris push each other
and Will's wearing a shirt where his guts hanging out
the bottom and his glasses fall off.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
And he looked like an insane man.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
And I had my one line and I flubbed it
and then everyone's mad at me.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
It's like they didn't put me in sketches. I got
in trouble.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Is Jimmy fallon The Tonight Show coming up this Friday, eleven,
thirty five pm Eastern on NBC. It's the big showdown
that everybody's talking about. It's the Cardigan Classic with a
DJ Collin and there's a little bit of everything in there,
a little bit of everything.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
It's really fun, but it's it's a good hour and
it flies by quickly. It also repeats on Peacock the
next day and then Golf Channel on Monday Monday Night.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Good to talk to you, Jimmy. Thanks for joining.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Us, but always good to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Thank thank you.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I appreciate you having me on. Keep it up, keep
up to good work.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
He's co host of Gojoe and Golick on DraftKings Network.
His Mike Golick, former NFL defensive lineman, went it to
Notre Dame is oo ooh, oh, my bad, seriously, my bad. Okay,
let's just get it over with. Let's just get it
over with. How painful was that watch for you with
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Notre Dame against Northern Illinois.
Speaker 11 (28:46):
I was sitting right in the stands there watching that,
and uh it was. And you know, in week two
of the college season, there were a number of big
teams playing smaller teams that pulled out, you know, close wins.
So my thought the whole time there was just get
the win. Just get the win. Just get the win.
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It's all that matters. They went up fourteen to thirteen
in the second half. I thought, okay, maybe they'll put
another field goal on him, another touchdown on them, and.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
They'll win the game. And then.
Speaker 11 (29:18):
Riley Leonard throws that interception that's returned thirty yards to
the fifty yard line. A couple first downs later, they
kicked the field goal, and unfortunately Notre Dame has done
this before two years ago to Marshall certain Wiom and
my son Mike and Jake were here as well, so
it it was crushing. And I say this in all sincerity,
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congratulations in Northern Illinois. I mean they they outplayed Notre Dame.
They out it wasn't fluky, it wasn't oh my god,
all these turnovers. They outplayed Notre Dame in South Bend
the first time they ever went there, and kudos to them,
tip of the cap to them. Even Marcus Freeman said, hey,
maybe we're basically reading the clippings, but coaching staff and
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players and they let one slip away. They won't let
one slip away that they couldn't.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, but the good news is it's a twelve team
playoff and you know your toughest game. I always say,
all their toughest game is USC but then tell that
to Notre Dame facing Northern Illinois, like, hey, week in
and week out, you know, you just can't slip up.
And they do this every year. It feels like there's
that one slip up game where you go, what is
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going on here?
Speaker 11 (30:32):
The problem with they should be able to absorb another
loss and possibly make the twelve. But here's the situation.
I think we'll only have two losses up to twelve,
maybe a third depending on the season, but basically two
losses and if Notre Dame. If Notre Dame wins out,
they'll prop they'll they'll most likely be in if they were.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
To lose another one.
Speaker 11 (30:56):
You put that Northern Illinois loss up against somebody else
with two losses and it's probably not going to be
as bad a loss as Notre Dame was to Northern Illinois,
So that could have them with two losses on the
outside looking in, possibly.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Talking to Mike Golick. He is the co host of
Gojo Golick on DraftKings Network and you can see it
from eight am to ten am. Do players care about
the uniform when they do like the Giants uniforms or
the Steelers throwbacks or the Packers three Like the players
care when they're putting these things on.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I think most don't. I know, I never did.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
I think we are in an era of more style,
where where players.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Have stylists to.
Speaker 11 (31:43):
Match their clothes to go into walk into the game,
you know, because they're on camera. So I do think
players are more aware of style than they were years ago.
But I think for the most part, once a game starts,
they don't care. Ever, linemen are just trying to get
air in their lungs, you know. Receivers are just trying
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to catch balls. DB's are trying to stop that. So
I think once the game starts, No, they don't. For
the most part, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
How closely are you watching the Deshaun Watson situation, that
it's not about necessarily play on the field. Now you
have this civil lawsuit that's been refiled, and could the
Cleveland Browns get out from underneath this contract?
Speaker 11 (32:26):
And actually Dan everything is about play on the field.
Right when he signed with Cleveland, it was because he
had a great year in Houston and then sat for
games because he wanted to be traded, and he didn't
have any criminal charges against him. They were all civil,
and he settled with adding twenty three of the twenty
four or twenty two of the twenty three, and the
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Browns and Haslam signed him because he played great in Houston.
That's why they signed him and gave him that. Then
everybody thought a ridiculous contract that was just just recently
beaten by Dak Prescott and now the Browns they will
look to try and get out of this contract because
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again of his quarterback play it being bad this time
that they'll look for a clause or they have the
clause or for a reason to get out of this
deal now. So while it's horrendous of what went on
off the field of which he was suspended eleven games,
find five million dollars and we all know what he
went through, but it's on the field Dan that controlled
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all of this, and fans hated it. Fans hated the
fact that the Browns signed them. But then after a while,
you're just going to root for your colors. You're going
to root for your jersey and try and root for
a win. But now that he's playing bad, it's like, hey,
can we get rid of them fast enough?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Which NFL fan base should feel the worst today?
Speaker 11 (33:54):
Probably Cincinnati though though Zach Taylor in weeks one and
two in his time, I mean, Houston is one in ten.
So that's a problem. That's a problem for the players
standpoint of execute on the field and the coaches standpoint
of not having them ready. But now New England, we know,
even with Bill Belichick and girod Mayo, who was a
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linebacker coach under Bill, they're gonna have a tough defense.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
But for their offense, and I know.
Speaker 11 (34:22):
They didn't have T Higgins and I don't think they
tried to run the ball enough in what was a
one score game going into the fourth quarter. But they
have perennially been bad the first two games. But to me,
there was no excuse to put up the small amount
of points that they did.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
As a former player, the difference between being hurt and
being injured is what.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
It's a gray area, man, It's a gray area. Was
a gray area to me because I was a tenth
rounder who started maybe half my career and felt if
I left the field, I may not get back on
the field. So players are in different positions. For the
most part, players are tough and we'll want to work through.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Now.
Speaker 11 (35:06):
What has helped is I was pretty much get the
one to make the decision on whether I wanted to play,
whether I wanted to take the needle take the pill,
of which I did many many times to play. Now,
you know, you hear coaches say it's the doctor's decision.
If the doctor says no, then it's no. We could
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talk our doctors into letting us play as long as
it wasn't too detrimental or you know, blown acl or
something like that. But we could talk the doctors into
a shot or letting us play now you can't. Now
it's a little more difficult to do that, and you'll
kind of have your helmet taken away from you, which,
in all honesty is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
What is that like? How long does it take you
get the shot to then you feel the numbness or
you don't feel anything.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (35:57):
I mean there was a year, my year in Miami,
I got the cartilage torn in my ribs, between my
ribs in the in game one. I got shot up
before the game and at halftime for most of the season,
and it feels I mean, listen, you could hit me
with a baseball bat and I wasn't gonna feel a thing.
And I've had that shot up, my shoulders shot up,
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my heel shot up. I mean, I've had a lot
of things. And I'm not saying this to say I
was this tough guy. I'm saying this as this is
what was done when I played. I mean, there was
a needle going into somebody all the time. And people
can think about it what they want to think about it.
They said, well, didn't you think about what you were
going to be like at fifty I said, I thought
about playing on that Sunday And that was it again.
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Players are smarter tod and take care of their bodies
better today. Don't get me wrong. It the shot though, worked.
They numbed the pain. But man, when it wore off,
whether it was on the plane ride home or in
a home game, when I went home and went to bed,
you definitely felt that that's when the pain pills kicked in,
and that's when you know it could lead to opioid
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problems for players. It wasn't pretty, Dan, It wasn't a
pretty way to go about your business.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Quarterback play in Week one, we're seeing touchdown passes down considerably.
Speaker 11 (37:16):
Why, well, I think defenses are ahead of offenses. You're
not playing your starters in preseason games as much, though.
I get it to a point because practicing with a
team for a couple of days before you play them
in preseason I think is actually more important. But still
it's not completely full go. It's not usually it's not
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tackling into the ground. You certainly can't hit the quarterback
when you're practicing with another team, And in preseason starters
don't play a lot. See Cincinnati and why they slow
start one to ten in under Zach Taylor. In the
first two weeks, and defenses are normally ahead of offenses,
so I think that has a lot to do with it.
I think we'll eventually go to an eighteen game schedule,
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will probably go down to two preseason games, so you'll
get even less work by the starters, and the offense
really needs to be in a timing rhythm. Defense needs
to as well, but the offense with all the different parts,
needs to be in sync, I think more than the defense,
and they're just not getting the reps in preseason that
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they normally had gotten years ago.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
The Commissioner has talked about the number of international games,
and I was told by source that they're going to
sell that package. The international games probably going to be
sold separately. The question is how many countries do you
think the NFL is going to try to play games
in the near future.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
As many dan as many as they can. I mean,
they are trying so hard to globalize the game. I
don't believe we will ever have a team overseas like
Jacksonville in London, or let alone a division overseas.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I don't think that will ether ever happen.
Speaker 11 (38:54):
But I think, and this isn't like baseball and hockey,
when you and even football, where you have a lot
of overseas players playing in our sport.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
You don't have a lot of that in the NFL.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
So the only way way the NFL gets global the
globalization of it, is to go play on their turf
in their territory. So they'll try and play everywhere. And
you gotta be careful. I mean, you're talking ten hour flights,
you're talking the grass is horrible. But the players are
highly paid. Uh players, don't get me wrong, but they're
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still not the owners who are grabbing this money from
from games overseas or out of the country and kind
of conditions.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Be damned situation.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But can we give the fan too much football?
Speaker 11 (39:42):
Well, we can't give the the international fan too much
football because they don't see it that much.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
But obviously us in the United States, can we can
we give you too much? Can we be gluttonous that
eventually you say enough, I'm backing away from the buffet?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
No, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
The only there hasn't been an actual schedule game after
Christmas and Wednesday this year is a Tuesday. There's been
a game on Tuesday because of a weather causing a
game to you know, be postponed a couple of days,
but that's good. Tuesday is going to be the only
day an NFL game hasn't been scheduled.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You cannot have enough. I mean it is.
Speaker 11 (40:19):
It is by far and away the most popular sport.
I remember there were NBA analysts saying, oh, the football
playing on Christmas isn't going to affect the NBA is
still king on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It's a joke. I mean, it's not even.
Speaker 11 (40:32):
Close, and it rules the roost and I think college
football quite honestly a second, but nothing will affect people
wanting to watch the NFL A big reason you can
gamble on it.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Do you remember a certain time one time when an
offensive lineman pancaked you, like it stood out out of
all the offensive linemen that you took on, where it
was just like, damn, that was different.
Speaker 11 (40:57):
Well, there were so many times. One time I played
against the late great Bill Freelik, who I actually played
against for years when he was at Pitt and I
was at Notre Dame, and then we played against each
other in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Man he pancaked me. Well.
Speaker 11 (41:17):
I actually hurt my knee on the play and went
on ir for four weeks.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
He just folded me backwards and.
Speaker 11 (41:23):
I kind of bent back as I was trying to
fight it on my knee. That because I was injured,
was probably the one that I'll remember the most, but
I'm not gonna lie. It happened a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
What was your super Bowl pick?
Speaker 3 (41:40):
My super Bowl pick this year is Detroit Detroit over Kansas.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
City, Okay, yeah, yeah, you know what. And I took
the Jets because I thought did okay, yeah, I thought
that Robert Salah either gets fired after week twelve or
he's the coach of the year. I think the defense
is really good. I think Rogers will ease into things.
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They got some playmakers there, and I thought, and maybe
it's trying to get you know, clickbait. I could have
taken Kansas City. I took Detroit as well, you know,
because Kansas City is right in front of you, and
sometimes what's in front of you, we don't want to
take that because nobody's gonna notice if you say I'm
taking Kansas City to win it all exactly right. But uh,
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I went kicking and screaming. I wanted to change my
my pick to the Chiefs. When I'm like, nope, I'll
stick with the Jets. I'm gonna have confidence in uh,
you know, an angry Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 11 (42:42):
Well, I think Aaron and I think the russ will
kick off a little bit because we're used to seeing
Aaron was kind of Pat Mahomes before Pat Mahomes. Maybe
Pat Mahomes is a little more magician like, but Aaron
on the run, rolling right, rolling left, rolling dropping dimes
was incredib in this first game. He didn't do that much.
He just got rid of the ball. You know, he
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was almost truly like a pocket quarterback when he can
be pretty dangerous outside the pocket. And I think he'll
get to that. And I agree if they're going to
go somewhere, they're going to be led by their defense.
That's why it was a little disheartening to get run
on the way that defense got run on, because they're
breaking in a new old lineman and they really got
Garrett Wilson and Breise Hall as your two main weapons.
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But I get you wanting to go out on a
limb because our mutual friend Stu Gotts picked the Jets
and Chicago in the Super Bowl, so he really really
went out on a limb.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, great to talk to you my best of the family.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
You got it, did
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So we got a few things to talk about here.
Christian McCaffrey is if he for Week two, Panthers lose
their best player. Now you're probably not aware that Derek
Brown is their best player, but coming off of Pro
Bowl season defensive tackle, he's gone for the year. Justin
Fields likely to start for Pittsburgh in Denver. This was
one of the more expensive tickets preseason because it was
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Russell Wilson going back to Denver and Bronco fans were
ready to welcome him. And it's looking like Justin Fields
will get the start against the Broncos. Also, the NFL
is looking at a new Deshaun Watson lawsuit. It's new
because it's been refiled, but it's from an old charge
back in twenty twenty. There was immediate speculation yesterday out
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of Cleveland that this was maybe fed to the Cleveland
media to bring up and now maybe away for Cleveland
ownership to get out of this contract with Deshaun Watson.
So the timing of this very curious. Yes, it's from
an old chart. Now you know the Cleveland Browns ownership
(01:13):
is already said basically, we don't care what he did
off the field. You brought him in, you paid him
two hundred and thirty million dollars. I don't know if
you can go, hey, he's not playing well boy. We're
really disappointed that this charge lawsuit from twenty twenty has
come back up refiled. Now, is there a way to
get out of this contract? I mean, I wouldn't put
(01:35):
it past Brown's ownership that they would do something like this,
and they're looking at buyer's remorse here with Deshaun Watson.
But that came up yesterday. It was like, okay, somebody's
refiling a lawsuit twenty twenty, and then all of a sudden,
it's coud the Browns get out of this contract with
Deshaun Watson. I don't know the legalities of that, but
(01:58):
if the NFL's look into it, I guess there's the possibility.
I don't know the language there with I don't know
if they put any language in his contract. When you
think about it, hey, we're going to take you. What
you did off the field is criminal, certainly creepy, but hey,
we're going to give you two hundred and thirty million dollars.
We're not that bothered by it, And now all of
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a sudden, can you say you're bothered by it? Is
there language in his contract that would allow you to
get out from underneath a two hundred and thirty million
dollar contract. Everything is guaranteed. I guess if I'm the
Browns ownership, sure, I mean, my moral compass isn't pointing,
you know, in the right direction to begin with with
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Deshaun Watson. So if you decide that, you go, yeah,
let's get out of this. I don't know if somebody's
going to go, Wow, what a lack of integrity. You've
already shown it. You brought in to Shaun Watson. Now,
he said he's got other things on his mind, a
couple of deaths in the family. His father died, and
he'd didn't play well. He hasn't played well, But that
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was not something that we worried about with Deshaun Watson.
Deshaun Watson when he played with Houston played pretty well
for a bad team. He didn't want to go to Cleveland.
I'm told he wanted to go to Atlanta. Cleveland said, no,
you want to go to Cleveland. Everything is guaranteed, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
There's a couple of articles out there.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
It's very a lot of legal ease.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
But to summarize, there's things in Shaan Watson's contract that
under the category of default, like let's say you go
skydiving and gets hurt. You know, the typical stuff that
everybody has. But he has some things in there that
the normal player might not certain things around conduct detrimental,
being suspended under the NFL's Personal conduct policy, performance stancing drugs,
et cetera. Also, he has a clause if the club
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reasonly believes that he's engaged in personal conduct, et cetera,
et cetera. So he has a number of clauses in
the contract that the normal player might not have because
of his previous situations.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, but these are pre existing lawsuits. This isn't something
new that's come up that to me is would be
a non starter with you know, conduct detrimental. This was
before you've already signed off on Deshaun Watson. You can't
be bothered by one lawsuit if you weren't bothered by
twenty three lawsuits. And I would say if something came
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up now, okay, you know, but they're talking about things
that would come up now, player charged with indicted for
convicted of conduct which would be subject to a charge,
indictment or conviction or any such offense. Okay, I mean
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that's for the duration of his contract. But I don't
know if Deshaun Watson disclosed things that were there allegations.
Did they know this was coming, you know, before he
signs this contract, before the Browns gave him the contract.
I'm gonna guess you're not going to sign him if
you think that there's the possibility that he could go
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to jail, be suspended. But now this came up, and
it's from a charge a lawsuit in twenty twenty from
what I've read, and the immediate speculation. Now, if he
was playing well, people wouldn't care about this. But he
has not played well. And you start to look at
that Cleveland team, and they do have talent there. I
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know they don't have Nick Chubb. Amari Cooper is a
quality receiver, he's not a number one receiver. David and
Joku can be really good. Jerry Judy, I don't know
if he's ever gonna be. I mean, he just strikes
me as somebody who was fast at Alabama and didn't
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do much after that, and I don't know. It's not
bad to have a third receiver like that, but I
just don't know how much he cares about playing football.
And then you got I mean, I got Miles Garrett.
Like it feels like you have things. You went to
the playoffs with Joe Flacco. It just seems like if
you have Deshaun Watson back. I mean, it's not similar
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to Aaron Rodgers, but it does feel like they went
to the playoffs with Joe Flacco Deshaun Watson there, they
should be even better. The Jets won seven games with
Zach Wilson. They should be better with Aaron Rodgers. But
you know, the Cleveland Browns, they went to the playoffs
and now all of a sudden you're looking at them now.
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Granted Dallas, Dallas is a better team, but Dallas hit
Deshaun Watson seventeen times. It was the league high for
a game. And if you say, well, compare the numbers.
The next closest was eleven times a quarterback was hitting
the game.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
So that's a whoa.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Stall a day, Stana Day, Stanaaday, Stanaaday.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
He says.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Stat of Theday brought to you by Panani America. I
said it yesterday on the show, and Paulie goes, are
you sure about seventeen? I go, yes, the Browns hit
h He got hit seventeen times by the Cowboys in
that game. Now you're going to be a little gun
shy if just about every play you're dropping back to
pass you're going to get hit. You know, you're going
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to start to think about it. You're going to get
it down a little quicker. He looked uncomfortable the entire game.
But is this about Deshaun Watson? Is it about the
Cleveland Browns. It feels like, you know, the onus is
on Deshaun Watson, like we're paying and he should be great.
You're paying him, you gave him guaranteed. Now you were desperate.
(07:46):
I got to factor that in as well, Denver desperate.
I got to factor that in as well. With Russell Wilson,
you know, these franchises act stupid. Sometimes brilliant businessmen to
make billions and then they act stupid. I mean what
the Giants did with Daniel Jones. Don't understand it. Don't
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understand it. And the Browns you spend that kind of
money under Sean Watson I don't think you can be
incredulous to say I can't believe it, because when I
saw it, I thought, is this a new one?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Was he getting a massage in Cleveland? Now all of
a sudden you got grounds to maybe terminate that contract.
This is from twenty twenty, and you've already moved past this.
Ownership wise, it's like, yeah, boy, that's terrible what he did.
Here's two hundred and thirty million dollars. Come on in,
all's forgotten with us. We don't care, yes, Marmon.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
And it was guaranteed, and I'm sure other owners were
looking at the Browns like, woa, this is the guy
you're giving. First of all, don't give him guaranteed money.
Don't give this guy guaranteed money.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
The ownership was not happy with that around the NFL,
from what I'm told. But you see how much Dak
Prescott's got contracts guaranteed two hundred thirty one million dollars.
Do you think it's just a two thirty and then
he coincidentally got a two hundred thirty one million dollar deal.
I don't think so, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
What makes even worse for Cleveland is that they have
to watch Baker Mayfield throw for twenty eight touchdowns and
ten picks at one third the price.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Right. Yeah, uh so you know you have these contracts.
The Cowboys officially tied to Dak Prescott for the next
four seasons, and you know you have to these teams
take a chance. Denver took a chance Cleveland. You know,
they had to get rid of the number one overall
pick Baker Mayfield to make way for Deshaun Watson, and
(09:42):
Baker has played really well. Deshaun Watson's played thirteen games
in two seasons. The Broncos whiffed on Russell Wilson. They
gave him two hundred and forty five million dollars. The
experiment lasted two seasons. They're paying him over thirty five
million dollars to not play for them, to play for
this Steelers teams are aggressive, but if we've learned anything
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from these quarterbacks, a proven commodity holds tremendous value in
today's NFL. You got to overpay sometimes. Then there are
times when you're going to whift. I just don't know
how Denver can say, come on in and we got
to trade guys. I guess it. That's a terrible deal.
Deshaun Watson is a terrible deal. That's because ownership is
(10:29):
desperate to find their franchise quarterback.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Yes, he when do we start looking at if the
Broncos whiffed with their head coach, I would say the
development of Bo Nicks. I mean, he probably bought himself
two seasons because if Russ continued to play and play poorly, then.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We would look at the head coach there. But I
I mean when Sean Payton came in, he said, this
is a mess and this coach that's one of the
worst coaching jobs ever. And then Sean did not like
Russell Wilson wasn't his kind of quarterback, and he was
going to get rid of him very costly. But now
(11:12):
you got your guy. Now you got your next Drew
Brees or you better hope because if not, you'll have
two seasons to prove yourself.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Yes, Mark, if you're a Browns fan, ooh, you're hoping
that the Texans don't win the Super Bowl, like, oh,
not a game.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, there's a couple of teams like Carolina. Better hope
that the Texans don't win the Super Bowl because I
mean I watched when Bryce Young threw the pick six
and he went over to the bench and it was
like somebody brought their son to work day and he
was just kind of sitting there, you know when your
kids don't want to be someplace and they're kind of moping,
and he just had this really sad look on his face.
(11:52):
And I don't know him. I think we had him
on during the draft, but I feel bad for him.
Like there's certain situations where you go, I don't know
if it gets any better. I don't know how it
gets much better because it's Carolina. With that ownership. You
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lose your best player, Bryce Young goes. I mean imagine
going to the line of scrimmage going, oh my god,
I'm going to be running for my life. We don't
have any weapons. This ain't Alabama.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Do I have any eligibility left? Maybe I'll go back
to Alabama, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
It's like the lifestyle is so different for like brock Purty.
He goes, I could run it, or I could drop
back and comforty pass it to a number of people,
and I'm probably gonna have a lot of time to do.
So it's like they're playing two different football games.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Those guys and you know, here's the Niners with now
Christian McCaffrey, and it's not a big deal. He may
not play this next game. Okay, I get what other
Let's say he was on another team. Let's say he
was in Carolina. This would be a huge deal if
Christian McCaffrey couldn't play.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But with the.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Niners, all right, you know, we got this guy over here,
Jordan Mason. He seemed to do really well. We're fine.
I mean, that is depth, that is a luxury. Here
the best player or the number one fantasy player, and
you're like, yeah, okay, we'll see when he gets back.
(13:22):
And this is one of those injuries that stays with you.
I've mentioned before, if you have a sprained ankle, you're
always going to have it because it'll be you'll be
more susceptible to getting a sprained ankle. Now, this is
tendonitis that Christian McCaffrey has. This has been there and
going to be there probably his entire career. There are
certain injuries that are lasting injuries, and this is one
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that will stay with him. They said it flared up,
and in fairness to the Niners, I'll believe then that
it flared up and then they decided they weren't going
to have him suit up in that game.
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Speaker 2 (14:45):
Jimmy Fallon, host of The Tonight Show. Look, who's turning
fifty years of age? How is that possible? You're kind
of are you taking whatever Paul Rudd is taking or
Jason Bateman.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, now I'm starting to but it's happening. Fifties coming, It's.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Here okay, and you know, you get to be fifty,
you start playing a little more golf. Maybe you're not
doing as much work. You maybe want to slow down
a little bit now you're out there. You know, with
this grudge match with DJ Collin, how did this come about?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I just thought I followed DJ khaled on all the
socials and the Instagrams and stuff, and so I'm looking
at he keeps posting these photos of him playing golf,
and he looked like he'd be fun to play with
if he also looked like someone I could beat.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm not that good. Yeah, can you play?
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I mean, I'm East Coast, I'd say probably. I'm not
kidding five to ten times a year. It looks like
he plays a whole lot more than that. Jimmy, Yeah,
I think he lives on a golf course.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Do you think about putting money up other than somebody
gets a nice cardigan, like make it interesting? Where As
Tiger Woods once said to me when I said I'd
like to play in golf, what are we playing for?
You said, whatever makes you nervous?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Oh my god? Can I tell you, though, how nervous
I actually did get?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Because so it's obviously I'm doing this to be fun
and to make a funny thing. But we had a
real PJ official it's we play four holes. We're at
in Lake Tahoe, so we're after the We had the
cameras stay after the American Century Championship.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
We asked NBC to do as a favor. This whole
thing came about in like two weeks.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
But you get you get up to the seventeenth holes
a par three, and there's five thousand people screaming, and
then when you're about to swing, they're quiet.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
And it's the most nerve wracking thing I've ever done
in my life. I mean, I'm a canedian. I don't
do that. I felt like an athlete. I'm like, oh
my gosh, this is the pressure man.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
And so when you see the first shot, it's it's
it's I don't want to spoiler it, but it's something
so ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
It feels like something you see in a movie.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well like, as a comedian, the last thing you want
to hear is silence, Like you're right.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Completely all was running around trying to hype everyone up.
You know, it was funny.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
We were talking to I sent DJ Khala to a
text and I said, hey, dude, you just look like
it'd be fun to play with.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Maybe we could.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I could challenge you on the show and we'll do something.
He goes, yeah, maybe i'd be done with I just
gotta check my schedule. And then I just challenged him
on the show for real, and I said, the winner
will get instead of a green blazer like the master's blazer,
gets a red cardigan sweater and we really hype it
up and that'll be the that'll be the gift that
the winner gets. So I challenged him on the show live,
(17:36):
and the next day he happened to be in New
York and he came on the show and accepted. And
then we called them and seeing me like how can
we do this? And they're like, you can't. You can't
just era an eighteen home match?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Can you play? I go not really, I mean i'd
say I'm double bogie golf. You know, I don't know
if you want to?
Speaker 6 (17:52):
He goes, No, one wants to watch that for five hours.
It's boring, So I go, so let's think of another
way to do it. So it's four holes, there's a
it's a breakfast ball that it's actually fascinating television.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Is there drinking involved? Not for me, there wasn't, But
for that crowd in Tahoe. Oh yeah, Oh my goodness, dude.
I was like Dan, I was like, yeah, I get
to get out.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Of here, dude.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
It was really maybe I would say five to ten
thousand people, I'll go nuts.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You can see what coming up Friday. So this Friday,
it'll be eleven thirty five Eastern. So normally when you
watch the Tonight Show with Jimmy, you'll be able to
see the four whole.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Now I think.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
I think if you're a sports bar, you should have
a full on raging party this Friday night at your bar.
And if you wear a cardigan into the bar, you
get a drink special, get one from your grandma, get
whatever you can get at cardigan sweater, go in and go.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah. Jimmy said that there'll be a drink special tonight
if I wore a cardigan.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
It's because it's when you're going to see a live,
an unaired sporting event at you know, Friday night, Friday,
at eleven thirty at night, it's perfect bar time.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Who's easier to interview if I said musicians, actors, athletes.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
I would say athletes number three, definitely. I'd say I'd
say probably actors. Actors number one, then musicians than athletes.
I feel like athletes are tougher because they've trained their
whole life to be an athlete, not really talk.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
You know, it's not a gift that they trained for.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
So it's it's kind of they have great stories, but
they're not really media trained. You know, where actors are
and musicians. I think my favorite part is comedians, just
because that's where I got my start and I get
to goof off with all those guys like Will Ferrell.
I can send him an idea, he won't even read it,
and they'll just say yes, I go, no, you should
(19:53):
read it first.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Will. He's like, no, trut, I go, I have you
dressed this little debbie. He's like, yeah, no, I love it.
We'll figure it out, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
But I'm fascinated by all of them, you know, I'm
interested in everybody I have. I once said Drew Brees
on the show, and he was great, and we did
a game where we were throwing footballs and breaking plates. Okay,
very high quality television, and he was playing against Taylor Loudner,
who was a great actor in all the Twilight movies.
(20:24):
And so I picked up a plate and I threw
it up and Drew Brees threw it and he missed.
And then I threw a plate up and Taylor Loatner
hit one. So now it's one nothing. Taylor Lotner second one.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I throw up.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Taylor Loutner hits his second plate. If he hits one more,
he wins. All of a sudden, Drew Brees stops having fun.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
He goes into this, He goes into this mode.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Laser red, laser eyes came out of his He was
like jumping up and down and it was like not
fun anymore.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
He was throwing. Before I let go of the plate,
it was disintegrating in my hand. He was like, I'm
not losing to this actor.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, I I experienced that firsthand in Tahoe, of all places.
I'm playing golf with him in a century tournament. I'd
made back to back birdies. I'm on the fringe of
the green with a chance for three in a row.
He walks by me as I'm getting ready to putt,
and he says, I can't believe that you could possibly
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have three birdies in a row, like with such disdain
for me. We got done with the round, Jimmy and
was so upset with his round. He parred the par
five last hole and he walked off the green. He
didn't shake my hand or Ben Roethlisberger's hand. He was
so upset. And I see him the next day and
(21:41):
I'm like, oh my god. The last guy I want
to run into is Drew Brees. And I'm on the
range and my caddie goes here. He comes. I go,
oh my god. He walks by and he goes, hey, Dan,
how you doing. I go good. He doesn't even say
anything about yesterday. Yeah, and no, he got He did
that whole locked in laser focus. Didn't even shake Ben
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Rothersberger's hand.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
These athletes don't like to lose.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I remember beating Tiger Woods at a video game of
his own game, and he who cares.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I mean, it's a video game, so clearly you're Tiger Woods.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
He got so mad and I go, hey, Tiger, you
know if you hold it was a Nintendo Wii said
if you hold.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
The button down and shake it, it gives you back spin.
He goes, don't tell me how to play my game.
It's this whole thing's a joke. What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (22:31):
But when you see this thing Friday night, it is
so it's so silly, but it's funny, but it's real.
We have an official, a PGA official, so it's all
by the rules. It starts raining, this thunder and lightning,
it gets It's honestly the most everything that could happen happened.
I couldn't have written it better. And he's a great
guy to play with.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Are you still a Judgeman?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah? I am.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
You know, it's kind of that thing where you just
kind of almost I don't know, it's not giving up,
it's just you go, there's other things in life I
can do. I can do others I can I can
water color, paint, I can do anything I could do.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I just don't why why do it to yourself?
Speaker 6 (23:15):
And then I'll find myself rooting for the Giants too,
just because they're New Yorkers and they come on the
show all the time, and straight hand, I'll get mad
if I don't. So, but yeah, you know, I thought,
for a second, I think a lot of Jets fans,
for a second, go this could be.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
We do it every year?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Why would why would we even say that to each other.
Why would we say this could be don't say it.
This course is not the year.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
If you could only watch one of your Saturday Night
Live skits, or you wanted your grandkids to see your
Saturday Night like the one that you go, that's it.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Oh, I mean it's probably would have to be cow
Bell or or with Will or you know.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
My favorite one was Mick Jagger. I did a thing
with Mick Jagger.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
He was on the show and Rolling Stones were on
the show, and Mick wanted to do a sketch and
so I go. Lauren goes, go picture sketch to uh, Mick,
And I go, if you want to go, I'm not
talking to Mick Jack. I'm afraid. I can't you talk
to him. He goes, no, he's cool, go talk to him.
So I wrote down all these ideas. I go, Mick,
I have this idea where me and you are are
work at a Sunglass hut or something.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
He's like, no, no, not that, not that. Ye be
very very very nice to me, very very patient. He goes,
not that. And so before the meeting, I said to Lauren,
maybe I'll do an am pressure of Mick in the
mirror you know, I'll be his reflection.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Lauren goes, please don't do that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
That's been done so many times. Please Lucille Ball did it.
I just don't do it. Man.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
So anyway, so I'm running down these ideas. I go,
how about this idea, Mick, me and you. You're Keith
and I'm Keith and he cloned himself so we can
party with him whatever. And he goes like, nah, no,
not that. I go down like ten ideas. I'm getting sweaty.
I go, what if it's you in the mirror? And
You're like, why am I doing this show again? I've
done it in the seventies eighties, Now what my rooster?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
What my do?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
And he goes, uh, A lot? That A lot that
I did? Yeah, I lot that. And so I had
to go in the Loren's office and say good news
and bad news. Good news. He wants to do a sketch.
Bad news. We're doing the reflection in the mirror.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Then we wrote it on a Friday night, which is
so rare, usually write on a Tuesday night. We were
on a Friday night, got to set down. They made
the best reflective set where everything is backwards in the
mirror and we rehearsed it once and did it on
Saturday night and the place erupted.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
It was a it was I think it was for me.
It was a perfect sketch for me.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Let me, let me see a little bit. You got
a purple like a blouse on or something here?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Yeah, yeah, I got I'm wearing a purple. We're both
wearing matching Mick Jagger purples satin blouses. And we're like,
what you gon do?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Roosters?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Come on, I'm pulling my finger at you. I'll keep
you know. He's just got out of control.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
And I was brand new on SNL and I remember
he loved it so much that he put his hand
through the mirror and shit my hand and the place
was shaking, and I was hot from all the apply.
It was just really exciting moment for me because I'm
just such a fan of his and I love that sketch.
Any any of those ones where the place rocked, you know,
very lucky to get those sketches.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But even the last year, it felt like on Sunday
Night Live, everybody was intent on cracking you up, like
they the goal was to make you not get through it.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
It was painful, Dan, It was painful everybody because they
knew I'm an easy laugh, you know, I just love
I'm a fan of comedy, and it's very unprofessional to me.
But Will Ferrell would We've been doing a sketch where
we're in a hot tub together and him and Rachel
Dratch were this creepy couple that would get in the
hot tub and like at a hotel.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
At a hotel, there were those creepy couple that would get.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
And he would eat like a duck leg or something
and he go like, how I And then time I talked,
his hand would pinch me under the water.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Because he knew I would start laughing.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh, that's not in the script for him to do it.
He just is pinching, Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, And so he would do that.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Or Molly Shannon would do stuff to just she just knew,
well look at me, just make me laugh. And Tina
Fey would just and they would crack me up, and
I'm like, and her ratio sounds and I would just
get in trouble, and they didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
You know. I had one line in.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Cow Bell and Will Ferrell and Chris push each other
and Will's wearing a shirt where his guts hanging out
the bottom and his glasses fall off.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
And he looked like an insane man.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
And I had my one line and I flubbed it
and then everyone's mad at me.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
It's like they didn't put me in sketches. I got
in trouble.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Is Jimmy fallon The Tonight Show coming up this Friday, eleven,
thirty five pm Eastern on NBC. It's the big showdown
that everybody's talking about. It's the Cardigan Classic with a
DJ Collin and there's a little bit of everything in there,
a little bit of everything.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
It's really fun, but it's it's a good hour and
it flies by quickly. It also repeats on Peacock the
next day and then Golf Channel on Monday Monday Night.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Good to talk to you, Jimmy. Thanks for joining.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Us, but always good to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Thank thank you.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I appreciate you having me on. Keep it up, keep
up to good work.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
He's co host of Gojoe and Golick on DraftKings Network.
His Mike Golick, former NFL defensive lineman, went it to
Notre Dame is oo ooh, oh, my bad, seriously, my bad. Okay,
let's just get it over with. Let's just get it
over with. How painful was that watch for you with
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Notre Dame against Northern Illinois.
Speaker 11 (28:46):
I was sitting right in the stands there watching that,
and uh it was. And you know, in week two
of the college season, there were a number of big
teams playing smaller teams that pulled out, you know, close wins.
So my thought the whole time there was just get
the win. Just get the win. Just get the win.
(29:07):
It's all that matters. They went up fourteen to thirteen
in the second half. I thought, okay, maybe they'll put
another field goal on him, another touchdown on them, and.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
They'll win the game. And then.
Speaker 11 (29:18):
Riley Leonard throws that interception that's returned thirty yards to
the fifty yard line. A couple first downs later, they
kicked the field goal, and unfortunately Notre Dame has done
this before two years ago to Marshall certain Wiom and
my son Mike and Jake were here as well, so
it it was crushing. And I say this in all sincerity,
(29:40):
congratulations in Northern Illinois. I mean they they outplayed Notre Dame.
They out it wasn't fluky, it wasn't oh my god,
all these turnovers. They outplayed Notre Dame in South Bend
the first time they ever went there, and kudos to them,
tip of the cap to them. Even Marcus Freeman said, hey,
maybe we're basically reading the clippings, but coaching staff and
(30:03):
players and they let one slip away. They won't let
one slip away that they couldn't.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, but the good news is it's a twelve team
playoff and you know your toughest game. I always say,
all their toughest game is USC but then tell that
to Notre Dame facing Northern Illinois, like, hey, week in
and week out, you know, you just can't slip up.
And they do this every year. It feels like there's
that one slip up game where you go, what is
(30:31):
going on here?
Speaker 11 (30:32):
The problem with they should be able to absorb another
loss and possibly make the twelve. But here's the situation.
I think we'll only have two losses up to twelve,
maybe a third depending on the season, but basically two
losses and if Notre Dame. If Notre Dame wins out,
they'll prop they'll they'll most likely be in if they were.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
To lose another one.
Speaker 11 (30:56):
You put that Northern Illinois loss up against somebody else
with two losses and it's probably not going to be
as bad a loss as Notre Dame was to Northern Illinois,
So that could have them with two losses on the
outside looking in, possibly.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Talking to Mike Golick. He is the co host of
Gojo Golick on DraftKings Network and you can see it
from eight am to ten am. Do players care about
the uniform when they do like the Giants uniforms or
the Steelers throwbacks or the Packers three Like the players
care when they're putting these things on.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I think most don't. I know, I never did.
Speaker 11 (31:34):
I think we are in an era of more style,
where where players.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Have stylists to.
Speaker 11 (31:43):
Match their clothes to go into walk into the game,
you know, because they're on camera. So I do think
players are more aware of style than they were years ago.
But I think for the most part, once a game starts,
they don't care. Ever, linemen are just trying to get
air in their lungs, you know. Receivers are just trying
(32:04):
to catch balls. DB's are trying to stop that. So
I think once the game starts, No, they don't. For
the most part, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
How closely are you watching the Deshaun Watson situation, that
it's not about necessarily play on the field. Now you
have this civil lawsuit that's been refiled, and could the
Cleveland Browns get out from underneath this contract?
Speaker 11 (32:26):
And actually Dan everything is about play on the field.
Right when he signed with Cleveland, it was because he
had a great year in Houston and then sat for
games because he wanted to be traded, and he didn't
have any criminal charges against him. They were all civil,
and he settled with adding twenty three of the twenty
four or twenty two of the twenty three, and the
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Browns and Haslam signed him because he played great in Houston.
That's why they signed him and gave him that. Then
everybody thought a ridiculous contract that was just just recently
beaten by Dak Prescott and now the Browns they will
look to try and get out of this contract because
(33:09):
again of his quarterback play it being bad this time
that they'll look for a clause or they have the
clause or for a reason to get out of this
deal now. So while it's horrendous of what went on
off the field of which he was suspended eleven games,
find five million dollars and we all know what he
went through, but it's on the field Dan that controlled
(33:32):
all of this, and fans hated it. Fans hated the
fact that the Browns signed them. But then after a while,
you're just going to root for your colors. You're going
to root for your jersey and try and root for
a win. But now that he's playing bad, it's like, hey,
can we get rid of them fast enough?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Which NFL fan base should feel the worst today?
Speaker 11 (33:54):
Probably Cincinnati though though Zach Taylor in weeks one and
two in his time, I mean, Houston is one in ten.
So that's a problem. That's a problem for the players
standpoint of execute on the field and the coaches standpoint
of not having them ready. But now New England, we know,
even with Bill Belichick and girod Mayo, who was a
(34:17):
linebacker coach under Bill, they're gonna have a tough defense.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
But for their offense, and I know.
Speaker 11 (34:22):
They didn't have T Higgins and I don't think they
tried to run the ball enough in what was a
one score game going into the fourth quarter. But they
have perennially been bad the first two games. But to me,
there was no excuse to put up the small amount
of points that they did.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
As a former player, the difference between being hurt and
being injured is what.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
It's a gray area, man, It's a gray area. Was
a gray area to me because I was a tenth
rounder who started maybe half my career and felt if
I left the field, I may not get back on
the field. So players are in different positions. For the
most part, players are tough and we'll want to work through.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Now.
Speaker 11 (35:06):
What has helped is I was pretty much get the
one to make the decision on whether I wanted to play,
whether I wanted to take the needle take the pill,
of which I did many many times to play. Now,
you know, you hear coaches say it's the doctor's decision.
If the doctor says no, then it's no. We could
(35:27):
talk our doctors into letting us play as long as
it wasn't too detrimental or you know, blown acl or
something like that. But we could talk the doctors into
a shot or letting us play now you can't. Now
it's a little more difficult to do that, and you'll
kind of have your helmet taken away from you, which,
in all honesty is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
What is that like? How long does it take you
get the shot to then you feel the numbness or
you don't feel anything.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (35:57):
I mean there was a year, my year in Miami,
I got the cartilage torn in my ribs, between my
ribs in the in game one. I got shot up
before the game and at halftime for most of the season,
and it feels I mean, listen, you could hit me
with a baseball bat and I wasn't gonna feel a thing.
And I've had that shot up, my shoulders shot up,
(36:20):
my heel shot up. I mean, I've had a lot
of things. And I'm not saying this to say I
was this tough guy. I'm saying this as this is
what was done when I played. I mean, there was
a needle going into somebody all the time. And people
can think about it what they want to think about it.
They said, well, didn't you think about what you were
going to be like at fifty I said, I thought
about playing on that Sunday And that was it again.
(36:41):
Players are smarter tod and take care of their bodies
better today. Don't get me wrong. It the shot though, worked.
They numbed the pain. But man, when it wore off,
whether it was on the plane ride home or in
a home game, when I went home and went to bed,
you definitely felt that that's when the pain pills kicked in,
and that's when you know it could lead to opioid
(37:02):
problems for players. It wasn't pretty, Dan, It wasn't a
pretty way to go about your business.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Quarterback play in Week one, we're seeing touchdown passes down considerably.
Speaker 11 (37:16):
Why, well, I think defenses are ahead of offenses. You're
not playing your starters in preseason games as much, though.
I get it to a point because practicing with a
team for a couple of days before you play them
in preseason I think is actually more important. But still
it's not completely full go. It's not usually it's not
(37:37):
tackling into the ground. You certainly can't hit the quarterback
when you're practicing with another team, And in preseason starters
don't play a lot. See Cincinnati and why they slow
start one to ten in under Zach Taylor. In the
first two weeks, and defenses are normally ahead of offenses,
so I think that has a lot to do with it.
I think we'll eventually go to an eighteen game schedule,
(37:59):
will probably go down to two preseason games, so you'll
get even less work by the starters, and the offense
really needs to be in a timing rhythm. Defense needs
to as well, but the offense with all the different parts,
needs to be in sync, I think more than the defense,
and they're just not getting the reps in preseason that
(38:19):
they normally had gotten years ago.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
The Commissioner has talked about the number of international games,
and I was told by source that they're going to
sell that package. The international games probably going to be
sold separately. The question is how many countries do you
think the NFL is going to try to play games
in the near future.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
As many dan as many as they can. I mean,
they are trying so hard to globalize the game. I
don't believe we will ever have a team overseas like
Jacksonville in London, or let alone a division overseas.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
I don't think that will ether ever happen.
Speaker 11 (38:54):
But I think, and this isn't like baseball and hockey,
when you and even football, where you have a lot
of overseas players playing in our sport.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
You don't have a lot of that in the NFL.
Speaker 11 (39:04):
So the only way way the NFL gets global the
globalization of it, is to go play on their turf
in their territory. So they'll try and play everywhere. And
you gotta be careful. I mean, you're talking ten hour flights,
you're talking the grass is horrible. But the players are
highly paid. Uh players, don't get me wrong, but they're
(39:25):
still not the owners who are grabbing this money from
from games overseas or out of the country and kind
of conditions.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Be damned situation.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But can we give the fan too much football?
Speaker 11 (39:42):
Well, we can't give the the international fan too much
football because they don't see it that much.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
But obviously us in the United States, can we can
we give you too much? Can we be gluttonous that
eventually you say enough, I'm backing away from the buffet?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
No, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
The only there hasn't been an actual schedule game after
Christmas and Wednesday this year is a Tuesday. There's been
a game on Tuesday because of a weather causing a
game to you know, be postponed a couple of days,
but that's good. Tuesday is going to be the only
day an NFL game hasn't been scheduled.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You cannot have enough. I mean it is.
Speaker 11 (40:19):
It is by far and away the most popular sport.
I remember there were NBA analysts saying, oh, the football
playing on Christmas isn't going to affect the NBA is
still king on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It's a joke. I mean, it's not even.
Speaker 11 (40:32):
Close, and it rules the roost and I think college
football quite honestly a second, but nothing will affect people
wanting to watch the NFL A big reason you can
gamble on it.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Do you remember a certain time one time when an
offensive lineman pancaked you, like it stood out out of
all the offensive linemen that you took on, where it
was just like, damn, that was different.
Speaker 11 (40:57):
Well, there were so many times. One time I played
against the late great Bill Freelik, who I actually played
against for years when he was at Pitt and I
was at Notre Dame, and then we played against each
other in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Man he pancaked me. Well.
Speaker 11 (41:17):
I actually hurt my knee on the play and went
on ir for four weeks.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
He just folded me backwards and.
Speaker 11 (41:23):
I kind of bent back as I was trying to
fight it on my knee. That because I was injured,
was probably the one that I'll remember the most, but
I'm not gonna lie. It happened a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
What was your super Bowl pick?
Speaker 3 (41:40):
My super Bowl pick this year is Detroit Detroit over Kansas.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
City, Okay, yeah, yeah, you know what. And I took
the Jets because I thought did okay, yeah, I thought
that Robert Salah either gets fired after week twelve or
he's the coach of the year. I think the defense
is really good. I think Rogers will ease into things.
(42:05):
They got some playmakers there, and I thought, and maybe
it's trying to get you know, clickbait. I could have
taken Kansas City. I took Detroit as well, you know,
because Kansas City is right in front of you, and
sometimes what's in front of you, we don't want to
take that because nobody's gonna notice if you say I'm
taking Kansas City to win it all exactly right. But uh,
(42:29):
I went kicking and screaming. I wanted to change my
my pick to the Chiefs. When I'm like, nope, I'll
stick with the Jets. I'm gonna have confidence in uh,
you know, an angry Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 11 (42:42):
Well, I think Aaron and I think the russ will
kick off a little bit because we're used to seeing
Aaron was kind of Pat Mahomes before Pat Mahomes. Maybe
Pat Mahomes is a little more magician like, but Aaron
on the run, rolling right, rolling left, rolling dropping dimes
was incredib in this first game. He didn't do that much.
He just got rid of the ball. You know, he
(43:04):
was almost truly like a pocket quarterback when he can
be pretty dangerous outside the pocket. And I think he'll
get to that. And I agree if they're going to
go somewhere, they're going to be led by their defense.
That's why it was a little disheartening to get run
on the way that defense got run on, because they're
breaking in a new old lineman and they really got
Garrett Wilson and Breise Hall as your two main weapons.
(43:25):
But I get you wanting to go out on a
limb because our mutual friend Stu Gotts picked the Jets
and Chicago in the Super Bowl, so he really really
went out on a limb.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, great to talk to you my best of the family.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
You got it, did
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