September 12, 2024 • 46 mins
Dan and the Danettes try to figure out what's wrong with Fritzy. Eli Manning discusses what it was like doing his Manningcast with Bill Belichick. College football insider Ross Dellenger breaks down the new additions to the Pac-12, and speculates about which schools could be next. And NFL insider Ross Tucker explains why it's a must-ish win for the Dolphins tonight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Gang's all here.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
The Minister of Humor is a little under the weather,
and we're trying to debate if having a cold means
you're sick. But Fritzi is here. He somehow made it
and it's heroic.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
It's a miracle.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Uh, give me the audience a little bit of what
they can expect to hear today.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I have a little bit of a froggy kind of voice. Okay,
knows this stuff and it's affecting my.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So it's a cold.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's a cold with with a chance for to advance
to being sick.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, it could have advanced like a player to be.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Named later cold with the prospect of it becoming of course,
of being said, hopefully I'll just stay a cold.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
All right, Well, you got your Peyton Manning colds jersey
on today day Elie's.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Coming on today. I don't have an Eli Manning jersey,
so I put a Peyton Manning jersey, not even a
Bronco when I put a cult one on it.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Right, So Todd is a little under the weather. Although
we're not sure of having a cold means you're sick.
Could go either way, but.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
We do have the glass partition between seatan and Fritzy.
He's not going to fall for a banana in the
tailblike either.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
No, No, he's not.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
He's not.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So PAULI may be concerned about getting a waft. Is
it because I'm coming.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Straight to well, there's no glass.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
We have enough distance, I think?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, never enough distance?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, yeah, So Seaton's here, Marvin, Paulie, yours truly the
back room guys as well.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We're already in mid show form. Here is Todd.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I thought Todd, I mean, not many people limp when
they have a cold, but it felt like Todd was
limping when he came in today.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I think that's just a hemorrhoids thing. But they try to,
you know, make it sound like it's a bigger deal.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No, we're not doing that too.
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Speaker 3 (02:04):
Good morning if you're watching on Peacock, Thank you for
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Radio over four hundred cities carrying this program. A little
bit later on the aforementioned Eli Manning will stop by
our good buddy Ross Tucker as well. It's the Bills
at the Dolphins and the Dolphins favored by two and
a half.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's a big game. It's a big game.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Early Week two, and this is a perception win for
the Dolphins if they beat Buffalo. Now they're supposed to,
but still they're one in six against Buffalo. Here's to
a tongue of ioloa on that perception that the Dolphins
can't beat Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
That's going to be what's written out there until we
do something about that. That's going to be the narrative
that we can't beat the Bills. And until we do
beat them, and we beat them consistently, like, none of
that's going to change. And we have an opportunity to
do that this year. We have an opportunity to do
that this Thursday.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Okay, I'm not gonna say must win, but it kind
of is inching closer to a must win against this
team who you're going to be going against again. Now,
the must must win for me is December when you
face Buffalo. I think that's the next time the home
at home. That's what I want to know. Can Miami
win a game in Buffalo late in the year. They
(03:25):
should win this game in Miami. They should win this game.
Speaker 8 (03:30):
Yeah, Pauline, are you doing the must ish winning of
the weekend in Week two?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I week two mustish win? Okay, Okay, that'd.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Be a record, But I'm doing a must ish win
for the Jets against the Titans as well.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Keep going, bringing in Big Fella.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The Bengals against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I can't say that's a must ish win because it
I mean, there was a touchdown underdog in that game.
But it's like a semi semi m I must ish win.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I'm comfortable saying that the Ravens must win. They must
beat the Raiders ish. It feels like a mustish win. Well,
how many mustish wins are there this weekend? I mean,
I would say Miami that's a mustish win against Buffalo definitely, definitely.
And I think the Jets going on the road, just
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the fact that they start over and two.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It's an avalanche. It's just everybody's waiting their way. And
now Aaron Rodgers says, hey, if you're jumping off the bandwagon,
we don't want you back on later in the year.
Like we don't need to hear that. Just play football.
Don't worry about who's on a bandwagon and who's not.
And then you know, the timing aspect of Aaron Rodgers
is going to put out a documentary on Aaron Rodgers
(04:49):
by Aaron Rodgers, and it calls it a enigma. I mean,
come on, like you, I would never call myself an enigma,
but Aaron is calling himself an enigma in this spiritual journey,
and let's put out a documentary.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
God, we're not even two weeks into the NFL season.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes, Todd must win Cowboys home against the Saints, even
though the Saints blew out a terrible Panthers team. Don't
doubts they have to win that game. No, take them really, no, no,
they lose to the Saints at home. And they're supposed
to go to the Super Bowl every year and this.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Maybe this, well, nobody has them going to the super
Bowl this year.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
But they think that they should be right there.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, yeah, they've thought that for thirty years. But this
is it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I don't think this is must winish mustish win for
the Cowboys. You know, the Saints played really well. Now,
do I think the Saints are a playoff team?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But would I be surprised if the Saints won that game.
I wouldn't, not the way they played, and they do
have weapons. They got you know, both sides of the ball.
But I don't think that's mustish win. Yes, Marvin, what
about the Browns at Jacksonville? Oh boy, I don't know
(06:07):
if that's well, Jacksonville's favored. I think if you're a
home team like Miami's home tonight, favored by two and
a half, you have to win this game. Perception wise,
you have to win this game. I'd say that's the
most mustish win so far of Week two.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
Yes, I would throw in Colts at Packers mustiche for
the Packers. No, Jordan Love, stay afloat. You don't want
to go oh and two and that you know you
have a bad month.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'll give you that mustache ish.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, I'll give you an ish a lot of issue,
absolutely any other issues, Yes, Tom.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Do the Giants have to win at Washington or just
not get blown out and look absolutely horrible against hut Garnet.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They mustish not look terrible again. Washington has to win
this game. Yes, this is must lose ish for the Giants.
The Giants are doing exactly what they need to do.
They want the first pick of the draft. It's over Johnny.
They can get out of their quarterback situation at the
end of this year with Daniel Jones and comfortably draft
his replacement.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So you think they're already thinking about tanking.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
Not tanking, but the best thing that could happen for
the Giants. They're not competing for anything this year. If
you get the number one pick of the draft, you
get to reset your franchise and calmly move on from
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Do you think Brian Dable has the latitude to walk
into ownership and say, hear me out, I got idea,
just listen to me. Hear me out once again. We're
just gonna tank this season. Trust me. I'm gonna do
better with the next guy.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But look, you gotta keep me though, because not many
guys gonna sit through a season like this where we're
gonna win three games like, promise me, I get to
keep my job, but I'm gonna do a really good
job of not putting a quality.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Team out there.
Speaker 9 (07:52):
Trust me, it's gonna be so good.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'm gonna put the game plan in Danny Dime's hands.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
Okay, Yes, I'm not sure the Giants have to try
to tank this.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I think it could happen organically. See, I think they're
going to be better than what people expect out of them.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It might be five or six wins, but they they
got a good receiver. I don't know, they got some
defensive players. I like your doubting yourself. I know I am,
I am, I'm mister doubt fire. Yes, Marvin, they changed
their throwback uniforms. They'll be in perfect shape.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
They go back to the Lawrence Taylor phil Simms whoa perfect.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Celebrate one hundred years. Let's go, Come on, Johns. Who
is with me?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Nobody? See what's Paul questioned today? Well, we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Start with two that I thought were fairly obvious answers.
Maybe I'm wrong, Okay, one of which we've already hit on.
Do you consider having a cold being sick?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yes or no, Let's go around the road.
Speaker 9 (08:58):
I thought that's fairly obvious.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Seton.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Do you think Fritzy having a cold means Fritzy is sick?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, of course, okay Marvin, Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
No, a cold means you're under the weather, which is
the little brother of sick. But you're not sick.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's sick.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Is that is such a nonsense.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
A cold is not the flu.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm I'm going to agree with Paully from the standpoint
of you can have a cold.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I don't think you would feel sick.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's sick ish.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You sound sick.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
So if you were under the weather, okay, that would
be akin to being more or less healthy.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Less healthy than the normal day. Okay, Well, we're talking
about sick. So if you were to look.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Up under the weather, what comes up is uh, if
you say the phrase under the weather, that means you
are feeling slightly ill, slightly okay. However, then the word ill, unwell,
poorly sick, those are all cinnamon.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Illish ill. I think todd is ill is.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
We're all technically under the weather unless you're on a
plane above a certain number of feet.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Now, I think under the weather stems from you you're
going to bypass.
Speaker 9 (10:11):
He's just let's not spend any more time on that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I just I blue by that.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But if you don't have a fever, do you have
to have a fever.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, that's sick. Yeah, then you're sick.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But if you don't have a fever and just have
a stuffy nose.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
No, you just sound like you're gotta stuck. Yeah, I
don't like you're sick. Could you stay home from school?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, you can probably finagle that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I wasn't like that, though. I like getting the one
hundred percent attendance.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Over the seventeen years of just this version of working
with Todd plus the three at ESPN, so it's almost
twenty twenty. Now I know his patterns of feeling under
the weather like the back of my hand. In three
days from now, this is going to turn into the
most horrendous guttural cough we've ever heard, because it's going
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to move from his cute little button nose down into
his hellish lungs. And at that point on Monday, when
we hear Todd doing the is he going to be
more or less sick or is it still just going
to be like what he's just coughing.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
No, I think he's on the doorstep of being sick,
But then it feels like he's always on the doorstep
of every six weeks pretty much.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Once you start flirting with stepdoat and pneumonia, that is
more sick. I would agree.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think you just sounds sick. I think you're fine.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I think part of it is too. I think that Todd,
when he does get sick like this, is the precursor.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
He's not fully blown sick yet, but he will be soon.
His lips turn white, his whole face goes gray. He
is No one goes from having a cold to within
forty eight hours being on death's door faster than Todd.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
I'm not even kidding. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He goes right, He's going to have a horrendous fever
sometime in the next forty eight hours. I mean, we
all know how this goes. We've seen it a hundred
thousand times.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I can't argue.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
But since I am hr I'm the boss here, I
have to be you know, aware of Todd's feelings, how
you know how he's feeling, and who thinks Todd should
be sent home.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Wait, do you want them?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
No, I'm I'm happy that no one thinks that I'm
in a situation where I get away from me go home.
You should get no business being here, though.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I would only send you home if I thought other
people could get sick.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That'd be it.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Which you keep saying that it's just you got a
stuffed up nose and that's it.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, And the last thing I want to be is
incentitive to thinking that, like I, who cares about everyone else?
I just want to go to work and if I
get anybody stick too bad? You don't want to do that.
I do not like you and that I help my
presence here. Doesn't you know suggest that like I don't
care about other people catching a cold or something, because
that's not my intention by being here today.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Not your intention, not my intention.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Like you didn't say, hun, I'm going to work and
I'm gonna get everybody sick.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All right.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
No, I keeped you from the get go and said
I'm gonna sit further away. We have the partition up
and something. I'm trying to make sure I'm not near
anybody and still doing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
The other poll question today.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
This is also what I thought was fairly obvious, but
maybe it's more up for debate. Is it the quarterback's
job to make sure his top receiver gets more touches?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yes, Okay, we're going to talk about this with Kyler
Murray because they have Marvin Harrison Junior the third and
he got three targets against Buffalo.
Speaker 9 (13:31):
And that's not his job.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Apparently it's not the quarterback's job at me.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Okay, the quarterback, Yeah, Kyler talks about this. You know,
let's take a break. We'll bring that to your attention
if you haven't heard it. But I love that guy.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Do you want some vitamin C?
Speaker 10 (13:49):
Todd?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Is there anything this morning?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I take my supplements and my vitamins, and I have
little sucking candies to the off drops's halls, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Okay, all right, give you some chicken noodle soup.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
If you're offering it. If you're I know, sometimes you're
busy in the kitchen making stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I am busy. I mean, I'm entertaining a nation.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
But if I have to worry about making me vicount
make some soup for you, some chicken noodle, maybe I
could have, you know, one of the backroom guys, go
out and get you some chicken noodle.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I know they have other roles, they do.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Everybody has other roles here today, but uh, you know,
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Speaker 3 (15:14):
He's Eli manning two times Super Bowl MVP, and today
hundreds of New York City street cart vendors are ditching
their New York pretzels for King Jawaiian Soft pretzel bites.
They of course are big sponsor King Jawaian. They're going
to bring us meet Friday coming up tomorrow. But uh,
look who's in the heart of New York City. It's
(15:35):
Eli Manning joining us on the program. How are Eli?
I'm doing great?
Speaker 12 (15:40):
Dan?
Speaker 13 (15:40):
How are you? I got to get you to come
visit my card. You know you gotta get some soft
pretzel bites here.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, we're gonna have that tomorrow. Kings Hawaiian is coming
to us and then they're going to bring that. It
looks like you're running a lemonade stand here.
Speaker 13 (15:54):
It is. That is the idea, except it's Kings of
Wan soft pretzel bites instead. And I'm in the middle
of New York City and this is what I do.
You know, New Yorkers brought me so much joy and
their support. I want to give back by giving out
some self pre bike.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Look at you, you're just a man of the people. Okay,
But do you ever run into a fan who's mad
at you for something that you may have done during
your career?
Speaker 13 (16:19):
You know, I think five years being retired, they've forgotten.
So maybe how they forget about all the interceptions, the
terrible games the losses, they always remember the good stuff,
and so.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
I you know, the same thing happens to quarterbacks.
Speaker 13 (16:31):
You know, five years of my I lost the game,
a game I thought we won.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Everyone I was watching the Manning cast and I was wondering,
with your brother and Bill Belichick there in the same room,
who is more of a football nerd Peyton or Coach Belichick.
Speaker 13 (16:46):
Ah, Man, I gotta I mean, I think I gotta
go with Belichick. Just I mean, he's just an encyclopedia
of knowledge on on football and everything. You could hear
him in the TV timeouts. There's someone in his room
that he's talking with. He's like, hey, wow, they're going
like bear defense. This is not real sound I don't
like this move Like he is. He is, you know,
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constantly just game planning, analyzing, looking at everything, seeing things
that are unique or different or oh this is a
really good and so I mean he is just right
in the middle of it. Peyton during the during the
TV timeouts, he's eating like a chicken parm sandwich or like,
you know, he's buffalo wings. Just you know, he's always
got sauce on his face. He's a disaster.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But he was offended when Brandon and Auk dropped that ball
like it it was if he was still playing it.
It hurts him sometimes to watch bad football.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
It does. It does hurt him.
Speaker 13 (17:40):
And especially when a guy's get out of training camp,
you sit out, you sign this big, great, big contract,
and then you drop you drop past this like what
you know, Hey, let's get the contract done. I think
he's just mad at the whole situation that that the
idea of like missing training camp blows his mind to him.
He he looked forward to training camp. He's like, finally
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I get to go. I think it should be a
longer training camp. We'd have longer football season. And that's
his mentality. So I think if he sense it, if
someone doesn't have that same mentality, he just can't resonate.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
There was a sneaky line that you know, Belichick talked
about going to those super Bowl parties after you lose
the super Bowl and then you go I never went
to one of those, and it was it was an
awesome line just to see Belichick's response to it.
Speaker 13 (18:31):
Yeah, I was I almost say like, hey, you know, Bill,
were you invited.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
The Peyton's Loser, you know, super Bowl party? But I
bit my tongue.
Speaker 13 (18:38):
I can't say that to Coach Belichick, too much respect
for him. He won to me the other you know,
super Bowls, and but yeah, I mean Peyton, I was surprised,
like you know, about having everybody had to lost the
championship to get invited to this party.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
So I guess I'm glad I wasn't invited.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
He's Eli Manning, two time Super Bowl MVP, joining his
courtesy of Kings Hawaiian their new soft preencil bites, and
he's in the heart of Manhattan's Flat Iron District. Today,
Connor Murray talked about, hey, you know, the game plan
didn't call for us to get the ball to Marvin Harrison.
He said, you know, like pointed the finger at the
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offensive coordinator. He said, it's not on the quarterback, okay,
And I criticized him because even if it's not on you,
it is on you. You're the quarterback, you own it.
It's your team. But how do you get the ball
to somebody who everybody knows that you want to get
the ball too?
Speaker 13 (19:40):
Well, I think there's always a couple staple plays where
you can put them, you know, put your receiver to
a certain spot, you know, and this is a no
matter basically, no matter what the coverage is, no matter
what the defense, you know, we can get him the
ball on the outside, on a short end or on
a hitch route, on a slant route, and it's not
guaranteed it's going on there.
Speaker 10 (19:59):
They could dictates the coverage to take you away.
Speaker 13 (20:02):
But you know, I don't I don't think that Marvin
Harrison Junior is getting double teams on every play right now.
I don't think you know, a rookie hadn't played a game.
I don't think you're gonna draw that attention. And sometimes
it's just it is truly just based on you know,
we want to get them the ball.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
If they're playing Manda man, you're going to go to
your guy.
Speaker 13 (20:20):
But it just depends on what the coverage is, or
you have some special plays to get them on some
play action. Those are the ones a little harder and
we have a play action a two man route, maybe
they play a different coverage or he gets covered up
by the by his zone coverage. But there are a
couple of plays in this you know, three step five
step passing game where you can't get the ball to
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you know, to certain guys.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
How often would receivers come back to you in the
huddle and say I'm open?
Speaker 10 (20:51):
They you know, we have pretty good receivers.
Speaker 13 (20:53):
If you it's one of those feels if you ask them, hey,
were you open on the last play, the answer is
always yes, Like that don't I don't even think about
what the play was. They don't even say yes. That's
just their mentality. But there are there are, you know,
times we're on the sideline, they'll come up and they'll
be like, hey, this guy cannot hang with me. They're
they're pressing it. I'm running by him. Or they'll come
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and say, hey, this guy's getting antsy. We need to
double move them. Like normally, they have pretty good suggestions,
and you know, there and there were times there were
maybe a few times on the sideline where I worked,
you know, worked the other side of a man. The
man I threw a you know, a fade stop to
your team mix, and I would ask like Victor, hey, Vic,
did you get open on the fade on the other side,
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And sometimes he would say like no, not not really,
not really. He kind of covered me up on that one.
But you know, next time, I definitely don't beat him.
I'm prepared for the next one. So they don't want
you to think don't go to him by any means.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Patients for rookie quarterbacks like, at what point do we
get a sense of what kind of season it's going
to be for these rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
Unfortunately, I think it takes, like a good it kind
of takes to the halfway point. I really do feel
it takes that long to get a sense of your offense,
of what's going on, the comfort level for the quarterback
to maybe have an honest conversation with the offensive coordinator
being like, hey, I really like this play, or if
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there's a play that the coordinator really likes, for the
quarterback to be like, hey, I'm just not feeling it yet.
Like at first, you just kind of like what the
coordinator likes and you don't know any better. And then
as the season goes along, you start to you know,
kind of get your favorite plays, You get your favorite concepts,
you understanding the protections more and the rhythm of certain plays,
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and you start, you know, getting the nerve to say, hey,
let's let's just run this play, Like this is my
favorite play, let's run it three times and just change
up the formation a little bit so I can get completions,
I can get into a rhythm, and I really do
think it just takes. It takes about, you know, a
halfway point to get that confidence and to get the
feel and the speeds of the game.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I look at demeanor of quarterbacks, certainly young quarterbacks, because
chances are they had a really successful college career. They're
not used to, Hey, I just threw a pick six.
Now I got to go back out like you show
me more after a pick six or an interception than
you do after a touchdown. I want to see how
you go back out there after doing something like that.
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You know, I don't know how important that is for
you if you're looking at somebody's head is down or
they go out there and they're like, all right, come on,
let's go. That was one play, let's get it back.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
No, I think it's a good thing to look at.
Speaker 13 (23:33):
And also just you know, if they make a bad play,
they do a bad interception, that next series, do.
Speaker 10 (23:40):
They get gunshot.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
Are they are they going to come out and still,
you know, rip this this skinny post on time, or
are they going to be like a little hesitant to
go to the checkdown a little hesitant and not not
you know, kate their eyes down the field and said,
just you know, bind my completions instead of you know, hey,
if something's open, I'm still gonna rip this.
Speaker 10 (24:00):
I still got confidence I can make these throws.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
And so the you know, being being kind of cautious
is not a great thing, uh as an NFL quarterback,
and usually leads to more mistakes. Now you're maybe not
throwing it to your first read who is open, but
it's a longer throw and you're going to check down
versus man, which is not great, and you can lead
the more problems. So it's something to look forward to
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and make sure they don't get conservative, they don't get
gun shy, and they still feel they can go and
and uh, you know, ball get the ball out on Tom.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Are you contractually obligated to say nice things about the
New York Giants play this year?
Speaker 13 (24:40):
I'm I'm not obligated to say nice things. I think
after Week one, just you know, understanding, I've been in
this situation. I've had a bad Week one before. I've
thrown three interceptions in Week one. We've had losses, and
we've we've started going too and in a Super Bowl
year we started going to and and I had to
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go down to Washington and down at halftime and how
to come back. When to get on a little wind streak.
I also know it can change quickly. You can get
your confidence bat, you can get on a wind streak.
So that's what I'm always optimistic. And I'm a fan
of the giants. I'm the fan of the coaches. I
know him personally. I see how hard they work. I'm
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a fan of Daniel Jones and in this rooting form
to do well, and I'm going to be optimistic in that.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Great to talk to you, have fun down there in
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talk to you, Eli, Thanks for joining.
Speaker 10 (25:44):
Us all right, Dan, thanks so much. A lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 3 (25:57):
Mentioned this earlier. Pac twelve is rebuilding the conference Boise State,
San Diego State, Presno State, Colorado State set to join
Oregon State Washington State for the twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Six school year.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Ross Dellinger's job to cover college football, and the Younghu
Sports National College Football reporter joins us So. PAC twelve
is back ish. What's it mean?
Speaker 14 (26:24):
Yeah, Yeah, they are back. They're back at six dans
to the six pack right now, but they need two
more at least at least two more teams to reach
eight members, which is the would get them to the
NCAA minimum to be designated as an FBS conference, and
they need those. They need to get to eight members
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by twenty twenty six, and then from there, you know,
they'll probably be there'll be a reinstated as a guess,
a new group of five conference. At that point, you'd
have six of them, right, Sunbelt, Mountain West, American Athletic Conference,
the MAC, and Conference USA.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So they're back.
Speaker 14 (27:07):
They're back for now. It'll be interesting as we go
to see what kind of TV deal they get, you know,
and what kind of marketability the PAC twelve has as
a reband rebranded, kind of reimagined group of programs.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
All right, So who would they add to get up
to eight schools?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (27:25):
I think plenty of options out there. I think the
new PAC twelve wants to be sort of known as
the best of the rest, so to speak, all of
those outside of the Power Conference schools. So when it
comes to brand power DAN television markets on the field success,
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you look at all those things. I think they probably
will look eastward now into the state of Texas, maybe
a program like Memphis Tulane, those Texas schools like Texas State, UTSA,
North Texas, maybe even South Florida, and that would be
a long way away.
Speaker 15 (28:05):
Right.
Speaker 14 (28:06):
Geography would be would play a factor as well, but
there's there's certainly those options. And if that fails DAN,
I think they look back back west and they go
back to maybe some other Mountain West Conference schools.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Could this have been prevented? How could this have been prevented?
The dissolvement of the PAC twelve?
Speaker 14 (28:30):
Oh man, wow?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Yeah? How many?
Speaker 14 (28:34):
How many ways this could have been prevented? I mean,
the most recent way I think that it could have
been prevented is August twenty twenty two, when the PAC
twelve presidents and looking for a new television deal, were
presented with an agreement from ESPN and they turned it down.
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And when they turned it down and went to market.
The market wasn't what they expected, DAN, and that led
them to down a path with Apple, a streaming obviously
streaming platform for their television deal, and that was something
that got pushed back and it obviously led to the
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exit of Colorado and that kind of had the domino
effect right of Washington and Oregon deciding to go to
the Big ten and then then it all kind of
fell apart. But even if you go beyond before that,
right before August twenty twenty two, there was July of
that year, a couple months before that when USC and
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UCLA announced they were leaving for the Big Ten DAN,
and that really was the big blow. That was thirty
to forty percent of the value of the PAC twelve.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Before I Let You Go, we were talking about this
prior to the show. Could you see a schedule maker
for college football at some point down the road where
you know, there being strategic and we're going to have
a noon kickoff at three o'clock in an eight o'clock
and you're going to treat it like the NFL does
that there's not going to be cupcakes that we're going
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to schedule this. So I just think they're missing out
on even more revenue, and that is TV revenue getting
these matchups. And like we accidentally had Texas in Michigan
because Sarkisian said, I didn't schedule that. But if you
have a schedule maker, could you see the top fifty
schools where you have a schedule release party like the
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NFL does, and you get to show these marquee matchups
and you can kind of build upon that momentum.
Speaker 14 (30:40):
What do you think, Well, this is a great topic,
and yes, it is one being discussed at the highest levels.
I think right now in college athletics, if you can
have some kind of alliance or agreements to have better,
more interesting matchups, and I think we're moving in that direction.
The problem with college athletics DAN obviously is it's such
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a fractured group.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Right.
Speaker 14 (31:05):
The conferences are only about themselves their conference. The schools
are only about themselves their school. So you do need
somebody to come in and kind of get every consolidate everything,
get everybody together on the same page, and everybody work
toward one mission. And that's what we're missing from college athletics.
But we're getting closer, I think to that point. So
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we will see. I think in the future more power
conference versus power conference games. I think on the Olympics
sports schedule, we'll see more regional scheduling, geography at play,
some rearranging of those things. But you know what it
will take for schools and conferences to play more of
these big games, Dan, and that is the College Football
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Playoff further expanding to give you the option to have
more losses and still the playoff.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Great stuff is always Thank you, Ross.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
He's Ross Tucker, our good buddy Westwood one and well
college football and NFL analyst host of the Ross Tucker
Football Podcast.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Is the running back back?
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Ooh, that's a good question, Dan.
Speaker 12 (32:32):
I'm Ross Tucker, a middle aged phenom, happy to join
the show. Now, you know what, I don't know that
I would say the running back is back.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
What I would say is that.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
We've lost our way a little bit the last couple
of years with the value around that position or the
market for that position, like for example, right, Dan sat
Boon Barkley. A lot of people thought the Eagles overpaid him,
paying him twelve million a year. All right, so we've
got the left guard for the Eagles, Landon Diggerson's a
(33:07):
really good player. Okay, he makes.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Twenty one million a year.
Speaker 12 (33:11):
We've got receivers making thirty five and close and soon
thirty six million a year. You're trying to tell me
that a guy in Saquon Barkley, who gets what.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Did he get?
Speaker 12 (33:23):
Twenty four carries twenty I mean twenty four touches, twenty
eight touches in that first game, that that guy isn't
worth a third of a top receiver, or isn't worth
more than half of a top guard.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I mean, I don't know how Sakuon found the Fountain
of you.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
He looked like Penn State Saqua I mean Dan, He's
touring thirty five pounds. It looked like he had rocket
boosters coming out of his butt. I mean he was
flying all over the field. And so yes, I think
the Eagles might have been one of the first teams
to realize, hey, this has gotten a little carried away.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
We still give the guy, this guy the ball.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
Like twenty times a game. You might I want to
have someone that you think is really good.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Paul, could you check to see if Saquon had rocket
boosters coming out of his butt checking? Alrighty, he had
six one yard rushers last year. It was three in
the first week now on once again. I don't know
if it's an anomaly, but you know, hardball is going
to run the football this year. I mean he's going
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to make that Michigan West. He's going to make sure
that they're running the football. If I'm the Eagles, I'm
running the football. The Niners, I'm running the football. I
always feel like a team is a better team when
you were able to run the football. If I'm Dallas,
I would have invested in a running back. I know
that they had to pay a lot of people and
you bring Zeke back in, but just having the option
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of like, I'm not going to buy into play play
action if I don't buy into your running back, like right, yeah.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
And here's the thing, Dan, because I know scoring was
down in week one. You know, I talk with these
coordinators all the time and these production meeting, right the
analytics guys, they have figured out that the two biggest
determining factors for the outcome of the game, whether you
win or lose.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
It's obviously turnovers. We knew that one.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
The other one is explosive plays, right, Different people calculate
that differently. But passes over twenty yards, runs over ten yards.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
So what does that mean?
Speaker 12 (35:22):
That means everybody is playing with two deep safeties. Everybody
is saying, you know what, especially in week one early
in the season, why don't you prove you can go
on a twelve play drive and not have a false start,
not have a holding penalty, be able to convert several
third downs.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
So if you're gonna keep having.
Speaker 12 (35:40):
These teams playing the two deep safeties so that these
thirty million dollars wide receivers don't beat them over the top,
that is very favorable to run the ball, to do
the bath, especially if you have a quarterback that can
run it even a little bit. The defenders there's not
enough of them. They can't get every gap if two
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safeties are back deep. That is why, I think, more
than anything, why there's a resurgence in the running game.
It's kind of what you have to do if they're
gonna sit in those two deep safety looks.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, and once again it's a small sample size, it's
week one, but if I'm looking at touchdown passes here,
twenty nineteen, there were sixty one touchdown passes in Week one.
There were thirty four in Week one this year. That's
a big drop, big drop, And the previous year there
were thirty seven touchdown passes week one collectively.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Why well, that's the other thing.
Speaker 12 (36:41):
If you're going on long drives as opposed to getting
these big, long touchdowns through the air, and you get
down near the end zone, well, what do they do? Then?
I've seen it a million times. They go and they
drop in a zone and you're now trying to throw
the ball into the end zone when they're seven or
eight guys in there.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Good luck. That is hard to do.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
I think the teams looked at it and they thought,
I mean, Josh Allen, I did the Bills Cardinals last
Sunday for CBS Dan, Josh Allen dropped back and thought,
I'm not throwing it in there. There's eight guys in
the end zone. I'm gonna this will be an interception.
People already say I turn it over too much. So
he ran and jumped over the guys in for a touchdown.
I think they're realizing that is tough duty. Trying to
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fit a ball when you get down near the goal
and there is not that much space.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Talking to Ross Tucker, by the way, Ross on the
call for Bill's Dolphins tonight on Westwood One. He also
has Colorado Colorado State for CBS on Saturday, and you
were there for the Cardinals and the Bills.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I'll go back to that game in a moment.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I said, this is a mustish win for the Dolphins tonight.
Perception wise, you're one and six against Buffalo with two
of their you know you're gonna face them again in
November and go toe to toe for the division at home.
How important is well, more important for Miami or Buffalo.
Speaker 12 (38:06):
Definitely more important for Miami. It's a short week, They're
playing at home. You could argue the Eagles. The Bill's
best defensive player and maybe the best nickelback in the league,
Tarn Johnson is out. So now the Bills don't have
their best linebacker who was probably their best defensive player,
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Matt Milano. He's out till December. Now you don't have
Tarn Johnson. If the Dolphins don't beat the Bills this time, Dan,
when are they gonna right? I mean, Josh Allen. The
numbers for Josh Allen against the Dolphins are just insane.
He averages over two hundred and seventy five yards passing
and over fifty yards rushing.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Against them in thirteen starts.
Speaker 12 (38:50):
It's by far the most of any player against any
team in NFL history. Josh Allen owns the Dolphins. The
Dolphins need to end this. The Bill those have won
the AFC East four years in a row. I just
think it would be so demoralizing mentally for the Dolphins
if they lose us. If the Bills lose it, they'll say, Okay,
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short week, we're without our two best defensive players.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
We'll have them later.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
We'll see those guys up in Buffalo later in the season,
and and we'll be able to beat them and win
the division in December like we always do.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I'm going to bring back a comment Kyler Murray made
after Sunday's game, and the reporter was talking about not
getting Marvin Harrison the ball. You were there, and especially
that that last pass that could have gone to Marvin
Harrison that would have won the game. He was open,
but Kyler Murray is asked about not getting his rookie
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wide receiver the ball.
Speaker 15 (39:46):
Sure, say away, Mark, Honestly, man, I wouldn't say they
was taking them away. I think you know, I'm just
as a quarterback. Obviously you go with to your red
sometimes the ball goes to them, but that's not you know,
it's not my job. Obviously, you know I have I
have a sense and a feel for guys when they
don't get the ball and when they're you know, when
they are getting the ball.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
But yeah, I'll leave that up to Drew.
Speaker 15 (40:08):
You know, Drew always, you know, he tells me, don't
worry about that type of stuff. Just keep playing a
game and you know, get the ball to where the
ball is supposed to go.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
All right, So Drew is Drew petsing the offensive coordinator
there right and kind of pushing off any blame that
it's on the OC. But you still have the ball
in your hands. He's not telling you not to throw
it to Marvin Harrison for the game winning touchdown. I
just I'm trying to understand the mindset and be fair
to Kyler Murray, and that is how do I get
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him the ball? How do I not say to my
offensive coordinator, let's get him the ball. He is your
best weapon. Why does he have three targets in that game?
Speaker 12 (40:49):
Well, so that's what's so interesting about that, right, you know,
it's not like throughout the rest of the game, Dan,
that he was running wide open. The first time Kyler
threw him the ball in the game, it was a
back shoulder throw and Harrison didn't look like he was
expecting it. He was going for the fade, and after
the play, Kyler kind of gave him one of these,
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you know, shrugging like, hey, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (41:14):
And then later on.
Speaker 12 (41:17):
Second or third quarter, he ran a good route, he
was wide open. Tyler put it right on him, Dan,
and he just dropped it. One of the worst drops
I've ever seen. And I've been watching Marvin Harrison play
football since he was in tenth grade in Philly High
school football, I honestly don't think I've ever seen him
have a drop before. He might have the best ball
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skills of any wide receiver prospect I can remember. It
was a blatant drop. Now, credit to Petsing because the
very next play they just ran a five yard out
with Harrison and threw it right to him just so
that he didn't lose it mentally, but I think, you know,
no preseason for these guys, and no matter what the
expectations are, he's still a rookie. It was still we
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asked them the day before the game in the production meetings,
you know what do you think he's like?
Speaker 6 (42:06):
I got all kinds of feelings going on.
Speaker 12 (42:08):
I mean, you know, these are still twenty one year
old kids in their first NFL game, and I'm not sure,
but this way, I'm not saying Kyler was intentionally not
trying to throw it to Marvin Harrison late, but.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
He certainly hasn't earned and didn't earn in that game. Hey,
this is our guy.
Speaker 12 (42:25):
I mean, Kyler was probably looking for Trey McBride or
maybe Dorch or somebody else. I don't think Kyler has
that confidence in Harrison Junior yet, even though he told
us the day before that he.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Did, Okay, now you got Colorado at Colorado State.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Is this a must win for Dion?
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 12 (42:46):
I mean Dan last year they were three and zero
and then they lost the game and it went off
the rails.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
I mean, they went one to eight the rest of
the season.
Speaker 12 (42:55):
And it's one of the things I think that's so
interesting about their model and having this many new players
every year, and this many transfer portal additions. How does
that group overcome adversity? How do they fare when things
start to go south? If they lose this game, which,
by the way, you know they're telling me it's going
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to be the biggest event in the history of Fort Collins, Colorado.
They haven't hosted Colorado in the Rocky Mountain Showdown since
nineteen ninety six. Now you have Dion Sanders and all
the attention and CBS Primetime, all that stuff. Last year
Colorado was three and zero. What happens if they start
this year one and two and lose in Nebraska and
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Colorado State after beating them last year. You know, their
team is made up of a lot of guys that
have shown they're willing to go somewhere else, right, I mean,
they're all transportal guys. They're willing to go somewhere. I
don't know if that's a better team or a better
situation for.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Them, or more nil money.
Speaker 12 (43:55):
I wonder if if coach Prime will be able to
keep this group together the rest of the season and
stay resilient if they lose this one. They didn't show
last year that they could really overcome adversity.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
I'm going to leave you with this, give you something
to think about. You had Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame.
They got paid one point four million dollars to go
in there play Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
They beat Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
What if I said to Northern Illinois or any of
these smaller schools, when you go in and you're basically
being paid to be a sacrificial and you can take
the money, or you can take half the money and
then Notre Dame must go to de Kalb next season,
So you get Notre Dame going to Northern Illinois and
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you get half the money, or you just take the
one point four if I if I added a little
spice to these games where the big guy's picking on
the little guy, and then if you lose, you have
to go to their place.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It's a home and home. Oh only if only if win,
only if you win?
Speaker 12 (45:01):
Oh oh okay, Because I was gonna say, they would
all take that in the heartbeat, you know, because even
like Colorado's state Dan, they're geniuses.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Right.
Speaker 12 (45:09):
You can't buy a single game ticket for this game
on Saturday night. It had to be part of a
season ticket package. You wanted to go to the CUCSU game,
you had to buy some other games as well. That's
exactly what Northern Illinois would do.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
I mean, I think you know what.
Speaker 12 (45:26):
It's like anything else going on with college football these days, Dan,
the players and coaches would be all for it. The
administrators would say, no, thanks, we'll take the guaranteed one point.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
I know, because I'd like to see these smaller schools
get paid because we know that that helps their entire
athletic department budget. But if you put that on imagine
Notre Dame. You lose the game, you pay them seven
hundred thousand dollars, but then it'll be it would be
the biggest event in that city's history. If Notre Dame
went to DeKalb next year.
Speaker 6 (45:59):
That would be incredible. This is what I love about
college football.
Speaker 12 (46:04):
I love the upsets and stuff like this, which is
why there's people talking about how the power for might
split off from the Group of Five.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
And there's all kinds of talk about all these different scenarios.
Speaker 12 (46:16):
I hope that doesn't happen because quite frankly, the college
football ecosystem, Dan, they need these games, you know, like
the Max schools. They need those paydays from the big boys.
And by the way, the big guys, the big programs,
they need these games too. They need games where they're
pretty confident they can win and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Great to talk to, you have fun tonight and safe
travels there Colorado, Colorado state as well.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
Thanks Dan, really appreciate it.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Gang's all here.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
The Minister of Humor is a little under the weather,
and we're trying to debate if having a cold means
you're sick. But Fritzi is here. He somehow made it
and it's heroic.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
It's a miracle.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Uh, give me the audience a little bit of what
they can expect to hear today.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I have a little bit of a froggy kind of voice. Okay,
knows this stuff and it's affecting my.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So it's a cold.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's a cold with with a chance for to advance
to being sick.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, it could have advanced like a player to be.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Named later cold with the prospect of it becoming of course,
of being said, hopefully I'll just stay a cold.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
All right, Well, you got your Peyton Manning colds jersey
on today day Elie's.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Coming on today. I don't have an Eli Manning jersey,
so I put a Peyton Manning jersey, not even a
Bronco when I put a cult one on it.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Right, So Todd is a little under the weather. Although
we're not sure of having a cold means you're sick.
Could go either way, but.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
We do have the glass partition between seatan and Fritzy.
He's not going to fall for a banana in the
tailblike either.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
No, No, he's not.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
He's not.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So PAULI may be concerned about getting a waft. Is
it because I'm coming.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Straight to well, there's no glass.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
We have enough distance, I think?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, never enough distance?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Okay, yeah, So Seaton's here, Marvin, Paulie, yours truly the
back room guys as well.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We're already in mid show form. Here is Todd.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I thought Todd, I mean, not many people limp when
they have a cold, but it felt like Todd was
limping when he came in today.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I think that's just a hemorrhoids thing. But they try to,
you know, make it sound like it's a bigger deal.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No, we're not doing that too.
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Speaker 3 (02:04):
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bit later on the aforementioned Eli Manning will stop by
our good buddy Ross Tucker as well. It's the Bills
at the Dolphins and the Dolphins favored by two and
a half.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's a big game. It's a big game.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Early Week two, and this is a perception win for
the Dolphins if they beat Buffalo. Now they're supposed to,
but still they're one in six against Buffalo. Here's to
a tongue of ioloa on that perception that the Dolphins
can't beat Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
That's going to be what's written out there until we
do something about that. That's going to be the narrative
that we can't beat the Bills. And until we do
beat them, and we beat them consistently, like, none of
that's going to change. And we have an opportunity to
do that this year. We have an opportunity to do
that this Thursday.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Okay, I'm not gonna say must win, but it kind
of is inching closer to a must win against this
team who you're going to be going against again. Now,
the must must win for me is December when you
face Buffalo. I think that's the next time the home
at home. That's what I want to know. Can Miami
win a game in Buffalo late in the year. They
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should win this game in Miami. They should win this game.
Speaker 8 (03:30):
Yeah, Pauline, are you doing the must ish winning of
the weekend in Week two?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I week two mustish win? Okay, Okay, that'd.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Be a record, But I'm doing a must ish win
for the Jets against the Titans as well.
Speaker 8 (03:45):
Keep going, bringing in Big Fella.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The Bengals against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I can't say that's a must ish win because it
I mean, there was a touchdown underdog in that game.
But it's like a semi semi m I must ish win.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I'm comfortable saying that the Ravens must win. They must
beat the Raiders ish. It feels like a mustish win. Well,
how many mustish wins are there this weekend? I mean,
I would say Miami that's a mustish win against Buffalo definitely, definitely.
And I think the Jets going on the road, just
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the fact that they start over and two.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It's an avalanche. It's just everybody's waiting their way. And
now Aaron Rodgers says, hey, if you're jumping off the bandwagon,
we don't want you back on later in the year.
Like we don't need to hear that. Just play football.
Don't worry about who's on a bandwagon and who's not.
And then you know, the timing aspect of Aaron Rodgers
is going to put out a documentary on Aaron Rodgers
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by Aaron Rodgers, and it calls it a enigma. I mean,
come on, like you, I would never call myself an enigma,
but Aaron is calling himself an enigma in this spiritual journey,
and let's put out a documentary.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
God, we're not even two weeks into the NFL season.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes, Todd must win Cowboys home against the Saints, even
though the Saints blew out a terrible Panthers team. Don't
doubts they have to win that game. No, take them really, no, no,
they lose to the Saints at home. And they're supposed
to go to the Super Bowl every year and this.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Maybe this, well, nobody has them going to the super
Bowl this year.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
But they think that they should be right there.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, yeah, they've thought that for thirty years. But this
is it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I don't think this is must winish mustish win for
the Cowboys. You know, the Saints played really well. Now,
do I think the Saints are a playoff team?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But would I be surprised if the Saints won that game.
I wouldn't, not the way they played, and they do
have weapons. They got you know, both sides of the ball.
But I don't think that's mustish win. Yes, Marvin, what
about the Browns at Jacksonville? Oh boy, I don't know
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if that's well, Jacksonville's favored. I think if you're a
home team like Miami's home tonight, favored by two and
a half, you have to win this game. Perception wise,
you have to win this game. I'd say that's the
most mustish win so far of Week two.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
Yes, I would throw in Colts at Packers mustiche for
the Packers. No, Jordan Love, stay afloat. You don't want
to go oh and two and that you know you
have a bad month.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'll give you that mustache ish.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, I'll give you an ish a lot of issue,
absolutely any other issues, Yes, Tom.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Do the Giants have to win at Washington or just
not get blown out and look absolutely horrible against hut Garnet.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They mustish not look terrible again. Washington has to win
this game. Yes, this is must lose ish for the Giants.
The Giants are doing exactly what they need to do.
They want the first pick of the draft. It's over Johnny.
They can get out of their quarterback situation at the
end of this year with Daniel Jones and comfortably draft
his replacement.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So you think they're already thinking about tanking.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
Not tanking, but the best thing that could happen for
the Giants. They're not competing for anything this year. If
you get the number one pick of the draft, you
get to reset your franchise and calmly move on from
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Do you think Brian Dable has the latitude to walk
into ownership and say, hear me out, I got idea,
just listen to me. Hear me out once again. We're
just gonna tank this season. Trust me. I'm gonna do
better with the next guy.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
But look, you gotta keep me though, because not many
guys gonna sit through a season like this where we're
gonna win three games like, promise me, I get to
keep my job, but I'm gonna do a really good
job of not putting a quality.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Team out there.
Speaker 9 (07:52):
Trust me, it's gonna be so good.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'm gonna put the game plan in Danny Dime's hands.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
Okay, Yes, I'm not sure the Giants have to try
to tank this.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I think it could happen organically. See, I think they're
going to be better than what people expect out of them.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It might be five or six wins, but they they
got a good receiver. I don't know, they got some
defensive players. I like your doubting yourself. I know I am,
I am, I'm mister doubt fire. Yes, Marvin, they changed
their throwback uniforms. They'll be in perfect shape.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
They go back to the Lawrence Taylor phil Simms whoa perfect.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Celebrate one hundred years. Let's go, Come on, Johns. Who
is with me?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Nobody? See what's Paul questioned today? Well, we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Start with two that I thought were fairly obvious answers.
Maybe I'm wrong, Okay, one of which we've already hit on.
Do you consider having a cold being sick?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yes or no, Let's go around the road.
Speaker 9 (08:58):
I thought that's fairly obvious.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Seton.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Do you think Fritzy having a cold means Fritzy is sick?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, of course, okay Marvin, Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
No, a cold means you're under the weather, which is
the little brother of sick. But you're not sick.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's sick.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Is that is such a nonsense.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
A cold is not the flu.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm I'm going to agree with Paully from the standpoint
of you can have a cold.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I don't think you would feel sick.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's sick ish.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You sound sick.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
So if you were under the weather, okay, that would
be akin to being more or less healthy.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
Less healthy than the normal day. Okay, Well, we're talking
about sick. So if you were to look.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Up under the weather, what comes up is uh, if
you say the phrase under the weather, that means you
are feeling slightly ill, slightly okay. However, then the word ill, unwell,
poorly sick, those are all cinnamon.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Illish ill. I think todd is ill is.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
We're all technically under the weather unless you're on a
plane above a certain number of feet.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Now, I think under the weather stems from you you're
going to bypass.
Speaker 9 (10:11):
He's just let's not spend any more time on that.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I just I blue by that.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But if you don't have a fever, do you have
to have a fever.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, that's sick. Yeah, then you're sick.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But if you don't have a fever and just have
a stuffy nose.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
No, you just sound like you're gotta stuck. Yeah, I
don't like you're sick. Could you stay home from school?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, you can probably finagle that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
No.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I wasn't like that, though. I like getting the one
hundred percent attendance.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Over the seventeen years of just this version of working
with Todd plus the three at ESPN, so it's almost
twenty twenty. Now I know his patterns of feeling under
the weather like the back of my hand. In three
days from now, this is going to turn into the
most horrendous guttural cough we've ever heard, because it's going
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to move from his cute little button nose down into
his hellish lungs. And at that point on Monday, when
we hear Todd doing the is he going to be
more or less sick or is it still just going
to be like what he's just coughing.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
No, I think he's on the doorstep of being sick,
But then it feels like he's always on the doorstep
of every six weeks pretty much.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Once you start flirting with stepdoat and pneumonia, that is
more sick. I would agree.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think you just sounds sick. I think you're fine.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I think part of it is too. I think that Todd,
when he does get sick like this, is the precursor.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
He's not fully blown sick yet, but he will be soon.
His lips turn white, his whole face goes gray. He
is No one goes from having a cold to within
forty eight hours being on death's door faster than Todd.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
I'm not even kidding. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He goes right, He's going to have a horrendous fever
sometime in the next forty eight hours. I mean, we
all know how this goes. We've seen it a hundred
thousand times.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I can't argue.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
But since I am hr I'm the boss here, I
have to be you know, aware of Todd's feelings, how
you know how he's feeling, and who thinks Todd should
be sent home.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Wait, do you want them?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
No, I'm I'm happy that no one thinks that I'm
in a situation where I get away from me go home.
You should get no business being here, though.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I would only send you home if I thought other
people could get sick.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That'd be it.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Which you keep saying that it's just you got a
stuffed up nose and that's it.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, And the last thing I want to be is
incentitive to thinking that, like I, who cares about everyone else?
I just want to go to work and if I
get anybody stick too bad? You don't want to do that.
I do not like you and that I help my
presence here. Doesn't you know suggest that like I don't
care about other people catching a cold or something, because
that's not my intention by being here today.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Not your intention, not my intention.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Like you didn't say, hun, I'm going to work and
I'm gonna get everybody sick.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All right.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
No, I keeped you from the get go and said
I'm gonna sit further away. We have the partition up
and something. I'm trying to make sure I'm not near
anybody and still doing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
The other poll question today.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
This is also what I thought was fairly obvious, but
maybe it's more up for debate. Is it the quarterback's
job to make sure his top receiver gets more touches?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yes, Okay, we're going to talk about this with Kyler
Murray because they have Marvin Harrison Junior the third and
he got three targets against Buffalo.
Speaker 9 (13:31):
And that's not his job.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Apparently it's not the quarterback's job at me.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Okay, the quarterback, Yeah, Kyler talks about this. You know,
let's take a break. We'll bring that to your attention
if you haven't heard it. But I love that guy.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Do you want some vitamin C?
Speaker 10 (13:49):
Todd?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Is there anything this morning?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I take my supplements and my vitamins, and I have
little sucking candies to the off drops's halls, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Okay, all right, give you some chicken noodle soup.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
If you're offering it. If you're I know, sometimes you're
busy in the kitchen making stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I am busy. I mean, I'm entertaining a nation.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
But if I have to worry about making me vicount
make some soup for you, some chicken noodle, maybe I
could have, you know, one of the backroom guys, go
out and get you some chicken noodle.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I know they have other roles, they do.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Everybody has other roles here today, but uh, you know,
just to get you through thoughts and prayers.
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Speaker 3 (15:14):
He's Eli manning two times Super Bowl MVP, and today
hundreds of New York City street cart vendors are ditching
their New York pretzels for King Jawaiian Soft pretzel bites.
They of course are big sponsor King Jawaian. They're going
to bring us meet Friday coming up tomorrow. But uh,
look who's in the heart of New York City. It's
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Eli Manning joining us on the program. How are Eli?
I'm doing great?
Speaker 12 (15:40):
Dan?
Speaker 13 (15:40):
How are you? I got to get you to come
visit my card. You know you gotta get some soft
pretzel bites here.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, we're gonna have that tomorrow. Kings Hawaiian is coming
to us and then they're going to bring that. It
looks like you're running a lemonade stand here.
Speaker 13 (15:54):
It is. That is the idea, except it's Kings of
Wan soft pretzel bites instead. And I'm in the middle
of New York City and this is what I do.
You know, New Yorkers brought me so much joy and
their support. I want to give back by giving out
some self pre bike.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Look at you, you're just a man of the people. Okay,
But do you ever run into a fan who's mad
at you for something that you may have done during
your career?
Speaker 13 (16:19):
You know, I think five years being retired, they've forgotten.
So maybe how they forget about all the interceptions, the
terrible games the losses, they always remember the good stuff,
and so.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
I you know, the same thing happens to quarterbacks.
Speaker 13 (16:31):
You know, five years of my I lost the game,
a game I thought we won.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Everyone I was watching the Manning cast and I was wondering,
with your brother and Bill Belichick there in the same room,
who is more of a football nerd Peyton or Coach Belichick.
Speaker 13 (16:46):
Ah, Man, I gotta I mean, I think I gotta
go with Belichick. Just I mean, he's just an encyclopedia
of knowledge on on football and everything. You could hear
him in the TV timeouts. There's someone in his room
that he's talking with. He's like, hey, wow, they're going
like bear defense. This is not real sound I don't
like this move Like he is. He is, you know,
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constantly just game planning, analyzing, looking at everything, seeing things
that are unique or different or oh this is a
really good and so I mean he is just right
in the middle of it. Peyton during the during the
TV timeouts, he's eating like a chicken parm sandwich or like,
you know, he's buffalo wings. Just you know, he's always
got sauce on his face. He's a disaster.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But he was offended when Brandon and Auk dropped that ball
like it it was if he was still playing it.
It hurts him sometimes to watch bad football.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
It does. It does hurt him.
Speaker 13 (17:40):
And especially when a guy's get out of training camp,
you sit out, you sign this big, great, big contract,
and then you drop you drop past this like what
you know, Hey, let's get the contract done. I think
he's just mad at the whole situation that that the
idea of like missing training camp blows his mind to him.
He he looked forward to training camp. He's like, finally
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I get to go. I think it should be a
longer training camp. We'd have longer football season. And that's
his mentality. So I think if he sense it, if
someone doesn't have that same mentality, he just can't resonate.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
There was a sneaky line that you know, Belichick talked
about going to those super Bowl parties after you lose
the super Bowl and then you go I never went
to one of those, and it was it was an
awesome line just to see Belichick's response to it.
Speaker 13 (18:31):
Yeah, I was I almost say like, hey, you know, Bill,
were you invited.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
The Peyton's Loser, you know, super Bowl party? But I
bit my tongue.
Speaker 13 (18:38):
I can't say that to Coach Belichick, too much respect
for him. He won to me the other you know,
super Bowls, and but yeah, I mean Peyton, I was surprised,
like you know, about having everybody had to lost the
championship to get invited to this party.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
So I guess I'm glad I wasn't invited.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
He's Eli Manning, two time Super Bowl MVP, joining his
courtesy of Kings Hawaiian their new soft preencil bites, and
he's in the heart of Manhattan's Flat Iron District. Today,
Connor Murray talked about, hey, you know, the game plan
didn't call for us to get the ball to Marvin Harrison.
He said, you know, like pointed the finger at the
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offensive coordinator. He said, it's not on the quarterback, okay,
And I criticized him because even if it's not on you,
it is on you. You're the quarterback, you own it.
It's your team. But how do you get the ball
to somebody who everybody knows that you want to get
the ball too?
Speaker 13 (19:40):
Well, I think there's always a couple staple plays where
you can put them, you know, put your receiver to
a certain spot, you know, and this is a no
matter basically, no matter what the coverage is, no matter
what the defense, you know, we can get him the
ball on the outside, on a short end or on
a hitch route, on a slant route, and it's not
guaranteed it's going on there.
Speaker 10 (19:59):
They could dictates the coverage to take you away.
Speaker 13 (20:02):
But you know, I don't I don't think that Marvin
Harrison Junior is getting double teams on every play right now.
I don't think you know, a rookie hadn't played a game.
I don't think you're gonna draw that attention. And sometimes
it's just it is truly just based on you know,
we want to get them the ball.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
If they're playing Manda man, you're going to go to
your guy.
Speaker 13 (20:20):
But it just depends on what the coverage is, or
you have some special plays to get them on some
play action. Those are the ones a little harder and
we have a play action a two man route, maybe
they play a different coverage or he gets covered up
by the by his zone coverage. But there are a
couple of plays in this you know, three step five
step passing game where you can't get the ball to
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you know, to certain guys.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
How often would receivers come back to you in the
huddle and say I'm open?
Speaker 10 (20:51):
They you know, we have pretty good receivers.
Speaker 13 (20:53):
If you it's one of those feels if you ask them, hey,
were you open on the last play, the answer is
always yes, Like that don't I don't even think about
what the play was. They don't even say yes. That's
just their mentality. But there are there are, you know,
times we're on the sideline, they'll come up and they'll
be like, hey, this guy cannot hang with me. They're
they're pressing it. I'm running by him. Or they'll come
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and say, hey, this guy's getting antsy. We need to
double move them. Like normally, they have pretty good suggestions,
and you know, there and there were times there were
maybe a few times on the sideline where I worked,
you know, worked the other side of a man. The
man I threw a you know, a fade stop to
your team mix, and I would ask like Victor, hey, Vic,
did you get open on the fade on the other side,
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And sometimes he would say like no, not not really,
not really. He kind of covered me up on that one.
But you know, next time, I definitely don't beat him.
I'm prepared for the next one. So they don't want
you to think don't go to him by any means.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Patients for rookie quarterbacks like, at what point do we
get a sense of what kind of season it's going
to be for these rookie quarterbacks.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
Unfortunately, I think it takes, like a good it kind
of takes to the halfway point. I really do feel
it takes that long to get a sense of your offense,
of what's going on, the comfort level for the quarterback
to maybe have an honest conversation with the offensive coordinator
being like, hey, I really like this play, or if
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there's a play that the coordinator really likes, for the
quarterback to be like, hey, I'm just not feeling it yet.
Like at first, you just kind of like what the
coordinator likes and you don't know any better. And then
as the season goes along, you start to you know,
kind of get your favorite plays, You get your favorite concepts,
you understanding the protections more and the rhythm of certain plays,
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and you start, you know, getting the nerve to say, hey,
let's let's just run this play, Like this is my
favorite play, let's run it three times and just change
up the formation a little bit so I can get completions,
I can get into a rhythm, and I really do
think it just takes. It takes about, you know, a
halfway point to get that confidence and to get the
feel and the speeds of the game.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I look at demeanor of quarterbacks, certainly young quarterbacks, because
chances are they had a really successful college career. They're
not used to, Hey, I just threw a pick six.
Now I got to go back out like you show
me more after a pick six or an interception than
you do after a touchdown. I want to see how
you go back out there after doing something like that.
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You know, I don't know how important that is for
you if you're looking at somebody's head is down or
they go out there and they're like, all right, come on,
let's go. That was one play, let's get it back.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
No, I think it's a good thing to look at.
Speaker 13 (23:33):
And also just you know, if they make a bad play,
they do a bad interception, that next series, do.
Speaker 10 (23:40):
They get gunshot.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
Are they are they going to come out and still,
you know, rip this this skinny post on time, or
are they going to be like a little hesitant to
go to the checkdown a little hesitant and not not
you know, kate their eyes down the field and said,
just you know, bind my completions instead of you know, hey,
if something's open, I'm still gonna rip this.
Speaker 10 (24:00):
I still got confidence I can make these throws.
Speaker 13 (24:02):
And so the you know, being being kind of cautious
is not a great thing, uh as an NFL quarterback,
and usually leads to more mistakes. Now you're maybe not
throwing it to your first read who is open, but
it's a longer throw and you're going to check down
versus man, which is not great, and you can lead
the more problems. So it's something to look forward to
(24:25):
and make sure they don't get conservative, they don't get
gun shy, and they still feel they can go and
and uh, you know, ball get the ball out on Tom.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Are you contractually obligated to say nice things about the
New York Giants play this year?
Speaker 13 (24:40):
I'm I'm not obligated to say nice things. I think
after Week one, just you know, understanding, I've been in
this situation. I've had a bad Week one before. I've
thrown three interceptions in Week one. We've had losses, and
we've we've started going too and in a Super Bowl
year we started going to and and I had to
(25:01):
go down to Washington and down at halftime and how
to come back. When to get on a little wind streak.
I also know it can change quickly. You can get
your confidence bat, you can get on a wind streak.
So that's what I'm always optimistic. And I'm a fan
of the giants. I'm the fan of the coaches. I
know him personally. I see how hard they work. I'm
(25:21):
a fan of Daniel Jones and in this rooting form
to do well, and I'm going to be optimistic in that.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
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Speaker 10 (25:44):
Us all right, Dan, thanks so much. A lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 3 (25:57):
Mentioned this earlier. Pac twelve is rebuilding the conference Boise State,
San Diego State, Presno State, Colorado State set to join
Oregon State Washington State for the twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Six school year.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Ross Dellinger's job to cover college football, and the Younghu
Sports National College Football reporter joins us So. PAC twelve
is back ish. What's it mean?
Speaker 14 (26:24):
Yeah, Yeah, they are back. They're back at six dans
to the six pack right now, but they need two
more at least at least two more teams to reach
eight members, which is the would get them to the
NCAA minimum to be designated as an FBS conference, and
they need those. They need to get to eight members
(26:45):
by twenty twenty six, and then from there, you know,
they'll probably be there'll be a reinstated as a guess,
a new group of five conference. At that point, you'd
have six of them, right, Sunbelt, Mountain West, American Athletic Conference,
the MAC, and Conference USA.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So they're back.
Speaker 14 (27:07):
They're back for now. It'll be interesting as we go
to see what kind of TV deal they get, you know,
and what kind of marketability the PAC twelve has as
a reband rebranded, kind of reimagined group of programs.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
All right, So who would they add to get up
to eight schools?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (27:25):
I think plenty of options out there. I think the
new PAC twelve wants to be sort of known as
the best of the rest, so to speak, all of
those outside of the Power Conference schools. So when it
comes to brand power DAN television markets on the field success,
(27:46):
you look at all those things. I think they probably
will look eastward now into the state of Texas, maybe
a program like Memphis Tulane, those Texas schools like Texas State, UTSA,
North Texas, maybe even South Florida, and that would be
a long way away.
Speaker 15 (28:05):
Right.
Speaker 14 (28:06):
Geography would be would play a factor as well, but
there's there's certainly those options. And if that fails DAN,
I think they look back back west and they go
back to maybe some other Mountain West Conference schools.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Could this have been prevented? How could this have been prevented?
The dissolvement of the PAC twelve?
Speaker 14 (28:30):
Oh man, wow?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Yeah? How many?
Speaker 14 (28:34):
How many ways this could have been prevented? I mean,
the most recent way I think that it could have
been prevented is August twenty twenty two, when the PAC
twelve presidents and looking for a new television deal, were
presented with an agreement from ESPN and they turned it down.
(28:55):
And when they turned it down and went to market.
The market wasn't what they expected, DAN, and that led
them to down a path with Apple, a streaming obviously
streaming platform for their television deal, and that was something
that got pushed back and it obviously led to the
(29:17):
exit of Colorado and that kind of had the domino
effect right of Washington and Oregon deciding to go to
the Big ten and then then it all kind of
fell apart. But even if you go beyond before that,
right before August twenty twenty two, there was July of
that year, a couple months before that when USC and
(29:38):
UCLA announced they were leaving for the Big Ten DAN,
and that really was the big blow. That was thirty
to forty percent of the value of the PAC twelve.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Before I Let You Go, we were talking about this
prior to the show. Could you see a schedule maker
for college football at some point down the road where
you know, there being strategic and we're going to have
a noon kickoff at three o'clock in an eight o'clock
and you're going to treat it like the NFL does
that there's not going to be cupcakes that we're going
(30:09):
to schedule this. So I just think they're missing out
on even more revenue, and that is TV revenue getting
these matchups. And like we accidentally had Texas in Michigan
because Sarkisian said, I didn't schedule that. But if you
have a schedule maker, could you see the top fifty
schools where you have a schedule release party like the
(30:32):
NFL does, and you get to show these marquee matchups
and you can kind of build upon that momentum.
Speaker 14 (30:40):
What do you think, Well, this is a great topic,
and yes, it is one being discussed at the highest levels.
I think right now in college athletics, if you can
have some kind of alliance or agreements to have better,
more interesting matchups, and I think we're moving in that direction.
The problem with college athletics DAN obviously is it's such
(31:04):
a fractured group.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Right.
Speaker 14 (31:05):
The conferences are only about themselves their conference. The schools
are only about themselves their school. So you do need
somebody to come in and kind of get every consolidate everything,
get everybody together on the same page, and everybody work
toward one mission. And that's what we're missing from college athletics.
But we're getting closer, I think to that point. So
(31:29):
we will see. I think in the future more power
conference versus power conference games. I think on the Olympics
sports schedule, we'll see more regional scheduling, geography at play,
some rearranging of those things. But you know what it
will take for schools and conferences to play more of
these big games, Dan, and that is the College Football
(31:53):
Playoff further expanding to give you the option to have
more losses and still the playoff.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Great stuff is always Thank you, Ross.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
He's Ross Tucker, our good buddy Westwood one and well
college football and NFL analyst host of the Ross Tucker
Football Podcast.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Is the running back back?
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Ooh, that's a good question, Dan.
Speaker 12 (32:32):
I'm Ross Tucker, a middle aged phenom, happy to join
the show. Now, you know what, I don't know that
I would say the running back is back.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
What I would say is that.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
We've lost our way a little bit the last couple
of years with the value around that position or the
market for that position, like for example, right, Dan sat
Boon Barkley. A lot of people thought the Eagles overpaid him,
paying him twelve million a year. All right, so we've
got the left guard for the Eagles, Landon Diggerson's a
(33:07):
really good player. Okay, he makes.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Twenty one million a year.
Speaker 12 (33:11):
We've got receivers making thirty five and close and soon
thirty six million a year. You're trying to tell me
that a guy in Saquon Barkley, who gets what.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Did he get?
Speaker 12 (33:23):
Twenty four carries twenty I mean twenty four touches, twenty
eight touches in that first game, that that guy isn't
worth a third of a top receiver, or isn't worth
more than half of a top guard.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I mean, I don't know how Sakuon found the Fountain
of you.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
He looked like Penn State Saqua I mean Dan, He's
touring thirty five pounds. It looked like he had rocket
boosters coming out of his butt. I mean he was
flying all over the field. And so yes, I think
the Eagles might have been one of the first teams
to realize, hey, this has gotten a little carried away.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
We still give the guy, this guy the ball.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
Like twenty times a game. You might I want to
have someone that you think is really good.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Paul, could you check to see if Saquon had rocket
boosters coming out of his butt checking? Alrighty, he had
six one yard rushers last year. It was three in
the first week now on once again. I don't know
if it's an anomaly, but you know, hardball is going
to run the football this year. I mean he's going
(34:22):
to make that Michigan West. He's going to make sure
that they're running the football. If I'm the Eagles, I'm
running the football. The Niners, I'm running the football. I
always feel like a team is a better team when
you were able to run the football. If I'm Dallas,
I would have invested in a running back. I know
that they had to pay a lot of people and
you bring Zeke back in, but just having the option
(34:45):
of like, I'm not going to buy into play play
action if I don't buy into your running back, like right, yeah.
Speaker 12 (34:52):
And here's the thing, Dan, because I know scoring was
down in week one. You know, I talk with these
coordinators all the time and these production meeting, right the
analytics guys, they have figured out that the two biggest
determining factors for the outcome of the game, whether you
win or lose.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
It's obviously turnovers. We knew that one.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
The other one is explosive plays, right, Different people calculate
that differently. But passes over twenty yards, runs over ten yards.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
So what does that mean?
Speaker 12 (35:22):
That means everybody is playing with two deep safeties. Everybody
is saying, you know what, especially in week one early
in the season, why don't you prove you can go
on a twelve play drive and not have a false start,
not have a holding penalty, be able to convert several
third downs.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
So if you're gonna keep having.
Speaker 12 (35:40):
These teams playing the two deep safeties so that these
thirty million dollars wide receivers don't beat them over the top,
that is very favorable to run the ball, to do
the bath, especially if you have a quarterback that can
run it even a little bit. The defenders there's not
enough of them. They can't get every gap if two
(36:02):
safeties are back deep. That is why, I think, more
than anything, why there's a resurgence in the running game.
It's kind of what you have to do if they're
gonna sit in those two deep safety looks.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, and once again it's a small sample size, it's
week one, but if I'm looking at touchdown passes here,
twenty nineteen, there were sixty one touchdown passes in Week one.
There were thirty four in Week one this year. That's
a big drop, big drop, And the previous year there
were thirty seven touchdown passes week one collectively.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Why well, that's the other thing.
Speaker 12 (36:41):
If you're going on long drives as opposed to getting
these big, long touchdowns through the air, and you get
down near the end zone, well, what do they do? Then?
I've seen it a million times. They go and they
drop in a zone and you're now trying to throw
the ball into the end zone when they're seven or
eight guys in there.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Good luck. That is hard to do.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
I think the teams looked at it and they thought,
I mean, Josh Allen, I did the Bills Cardinals last
Sunday for CBS Dan, Josh Allen dropped back and thought,
I'm not throwing it in there. There's eight guys in
the end zone. I'm gonna this will be an interception.
People already say I turn it over too much. So
he ran and jumped over the guys in for a touchdown.
I think they're realizing that is tough duty. Trying to
(37:26):
fit a ball when you get down near the goal
and there is not that much space.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Talking to Ross Tucker, by the way, Ross on the
call for Bill's Dolphins tonight on Westwood One. He also
has Colorado Colorado State for CBS on Saturday, and you
were there for the Cardinals and the Bills.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I'll go back to that game in a moment.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I said, this is a mustish win for the Dolphins tonight.
Perception wise, you're one and six against Buffalo with two
of their you know you're gonna face them again in
November and go toe to toe for the division at home.
How important is well, more important for Miami or Buffalo.
Speaker 12 (38:06):
Definitely more important for Miami. It's a short week, They're
playing at home. You could argue the Eagles. The Bill's
best defensive player and maybe the best nickelback in the league,
Tarn Johnson is out. So now the Bills don't have
their best linebacker who was probably their best defensive player,
(38:26):
Matt Milano. He's out till December. Now you don't have
Tarn Johnson. If the Dolphins don't beat the Bills this time, Dan,
when are they gonna right? I mean, Josh Allen. The
numbers for Josh Allen against the Dolphins are just insane.
He averages over two hundred and seventy five yards passing
and over fifty yards rushing.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Against them in thirteen starts.
Speaker 12 (38:50):
It's by far the most of any player against any
team in NFL history. Josh Allen owns the Dolphins. The
Dolphins need to end this. The Bill those have won
the AFC East four years in a row. I just
think it would be so demoralizing mentally for the Dolphins
if they lose us. If the Bills lose it, they'll say, Okay,
(39:11):
short week, we're without our two best defensive players.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
We'll have them later.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
We'll see those guys up in Buffalo later in the season,
and and we'll be able to beat them and win
the division in December like we always do.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I'm going to bring back a comment Kyler Murray made
after Sunday's game, and the reporter was talking about not
getting Marvin Harrison the ball. You were there, and especially
that that last pass that could have gone to Marvin
Harrison that would have won the game. He was open,
but Kyler Murray is asked about not getting his rookie
(39:44):
wide receiver the ball.
Speaker 15 (39:46):
Sure, say away, Mark, Honestly, man, I wouldn't say they
was taking them away. I think you know, I'm just
as a quarterback. Obviously you go with to your red
sometimes the ball goes to them, but that's not you know,
it's not my job. Obviously, you know I have I
have a sense and a feel for guys when they
don't get the ball and when they're you know, when
they are getting the ball.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
But yeah, I'll leave that up to Drew.
Speaker 15 (40:08):
You know, Drew always, you know, he tells me, don't
worry about that type of stuff. Just keep playing a
game and you know, get the ball to where the
ball is supposed to go.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
All right, So Drew is Drew petsing the offensive coordinator
there right and kind of pushing off any blame that
it's on the OC. But you still have the ball
in your hands. He's not telling you not to throw
it to Marvin Harrison for the game winning touchdown. I
just I'm trying to understand the mindset and be fair
to Kyler Murray, and that is how do I get
(40:38):
him the ball? How do I not say to my
offensive coordinator, let's get him the ball. He is your
best weapon. Why does he have three targets in that game?
Speaker 12 (40:49):
Well, so that's what's so interesting about that, right, you know,
it's not like throughout the rest of the game, Dan,
that he was running wide open. The first time Kyler
threw him the ball in the game, it was a
back shoulder throw and Harrison didn't look like he was
expecting it. He was going for the fade, and after
the play, Kyler kind of gave him one of these,
(41:11):
you know, shrugging like, hey, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (41:14):
And then later on.
Speaker 12 (41:17):
Second or third quarter, he ran a good route, he
was wide open. Tyler put it right on him, Dan,
and he just dropped it. One of the worst drops
I've ever seen. And I've been watching Marvin Harrison play
football since he was in tenth grade in Philly High
school football, I honestly don't think I've ever seen him
have a drop before. He might have the best ball
(41:38):
skills of any wide receiver prospect I can remember. It
was a blatant drop. Now, credit to Petsing because the
very next play they just ran a five yard out
with Harrison and threw it right to him just so
that he didn't lose it mentally, but I think, you know,
no preseason for these guys, and no matter what the
expectations are, he's still a rookie. It was still we
(42:02):
asked them the day before the game in the production meetings,
you know what do you think he's like?
Speaker 6 (42:06):
I got all kinds of feelings going on.
Speaker 12 (42:08):
I mean, you know, these are still twenty one year
old kids in their first NFL game, and I'm not sure,
but this way, I'm not saying Kyler was intentionally not
trying to throw it to Marvin Harrison late, but.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
He certainly hasn't earned and didn't earn in that game. Hey,
this is our guy.
Speaker 12 (42:25):
I mean, Kyler was probably looking for Trey McBride or
maybe Dorch or somebody else. I don't think Kyler has
that confidence in Harrison Junior yet, even though he told
us the day before that he.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Did, Okay, now you got Colorado at Colorado State.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Is this a must win for Dion?
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 12 (42:46):
I mean Dan last year they were three and zero
and then they lost the game and it went off
the rails.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
I mean, they went one to eight the rest of
the season.
Speaker 12 (42:55):
And it's one of the things I think that's so
interesting about their model and having this many new players
every year, and this many transfer portal additions. How does
that group overcome adversity? How do they fare when things
start to go south? If they lose this game, which,
by the way, you know they're telling me it's going
(43:15):
to be the biggest event in the history of Fort Collins, Colorado.
They haven't hosted Colorado in the Rocky Mountain Showdown since
nineteen ninety six. Now you have Dion Sanders and all
the attention and CBS Primetime, all that stuff. Last year
Colorado was three and zero. What happens if they start
this year one and two and lose in Nebraska and
(43:37):
Colorado State after beating them last year. You know, their
team is made up of a lot of guys that
have shown they're willing to go somewhere else, right, I mean,
they're all transportal guys. They're willing to go somewhere. I
don't know if that's a better team or a better
situation for.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Them, or more nil money.
Speaker 12 (43:55):
I wonder if if coach Prime will be able to
keep this group together the rest of the season and
stay resilient if they lose this one. They didn't show
last year that they could really overcome adversity.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
I'm going to leave you with this, give you something
to think about. You had Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame.
They got paid one point four million dollars to go
in there play Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
They beat Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
What if I said to Northern Illinois or any of
these smaller schools, when you go in and you're basically
being paid to be a sacrificial and you can take
the money, or you can take half the money and
then Notre Dame must go to de Kalb next season,
So you get Notre Dame going to Northern Illinois and
(44:43):
you get half the money, or you just take the
one point four if I if I added a little
spice to these games where the big guy's picking on
the little guy, and then if you lose, you have
to go to their place.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It's a home and home. Oh only if only if win,
only if you win?
Speaker 12 (45:01):
Oh oh okay, Because I was gonna say, they would
all take that in the heartbeat, you know, because even
like Colorado's state Dan, they're geniuses.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
Right.
Speaker 12 (45:09):
You can't buy a single game ticket for this game
on Saturday night. It had to be part of a
season ticket package. You wanted to go to the CUCSU game,
you had to buy some other games as well. That's
exactly what Northern Illinois would do.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
I mean, I think you know what.
Speaker 12 (45:26):
It's like anything else going on with college football these days, Dan,
the players and coaches would be all for it. The
administrators would say, no, thanks, we'll take the guaranteed one point.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
I know, because I'd like to see these smaller schools
get paid because we know that that helps their entire
athletic department budget. But if you put that on imagine
Notre Dame. You lose the game, you pay them seven
hundred thousand dollars, but then it'll be it would be
the biggest event in that city's history. If Notre Dame
went to DeKalb next year.
Speaker 6 (45:59):
That would be incredible. This is what I love about
college football.
Speaker 12 (46:04):
I love the upsets and stuff like this, which is
why there's people talking about how the power for might
split off from the Group of Five.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
And there's all kinds of talk about all these different scenarios.
Speaker 12 (46:16):
I hope that doesn't happen because quite frankly, the college
football ecosystem, Dan, they need these games, you know, like
the Max schools. They need those paydays from the big boys.
And by the way, the big guys, the big programs,
they need these games too. They need games where they're
pretty confident they can win and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Great to talk to, you have fun tonight and safe
travels there Colorado, Colorado state as well.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
Thanks Dan, really appreciate it.
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