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October 14, 2024 45 mins

On today's Dan Patrick Show, DP and the guys recap all the football action from this weekend. Did Oregon outsmart Ohio State? What's wrong with the Cowboys? Former NFL OL Ross Tucker explains why he thinks the Lions can't win a Super Bowl without Aidan Hutchison. Plus, CBS Sports College Football Analyst and Former Head Coach Rick Neuheisel discusses Lincoln Riley's job security after a tough loss to Penn State.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
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You got the Mets and the Dodgers, you got the
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
This just in for I in rapaport.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hassan Reddick has hired Drew Rosenhaus to be his new agent,
and Rosenhaus will meet with the Jets before the game
tonight to begin the process of resolving the situation and
perhaps ending the holdout. Hassan Reddick was with the Eagles
and he wanted to be paid, and it seemed like

(01:25):
the Jets had a deal worked out in the off season.
He gets to the Jets, then he doesn't want to play,
didn't like the contract he's been holding out. They could
certainly use him. There are other teams around the league
that could certainly use Hassan Reddick as well, but he
has hired Drew Rosenhaus as his new agent. All Right,
Recapping some items last night, the Bengals get a must,

(01:49):
must needed win. The Lions roll the Cowboys, but in
the process they lose their great defensive lineman Aiden Hutchinson
for the season.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
We'll have more on that in a moment.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Ravens beat the Commanders, although I thought Jayden Daniels looked
really good in that loss, but that that was a
fun match up there. Texans win, Packers, Bears, Bucks, Eagles, Chargers, Steelers,
Colts Falcons and the Bengals back to the Lions over
the Cowboys. I mean, that's one of those you got
the win, an impressive win, but I don't think you

(02:22):
celebrate with that when you lose Aiden Hutchinson. I would
be on the phone with the Cleveland Browns this morning.
I would well, right at nine o'clock or whenever they
open for business.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'd be like.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Miles Garrett, We'd like to know what it would take
to get him. This is your year, you got it,
you're all in. You lose your best defensive player, you
gotta go all in. You got to get somebody. You
got a great offense here. But I would say, what
would it take to get Miles Garrett? Or you go
around the league and see if there's somebody else available.

(02:57):
I'd call the Jags while they're in London. You know,
they're further along in the day over there, so they
would be ready, they'd be awake for quite some time there,
and say, hey, you got anybody that you would like
to trade? Because now all of a sudden you start
to see these teams. If you've got one win, you
don't have any wins? Is it time to then sell

(03:20):
off and November fifth, I believe is the trade deadline,
so it is right around the corner there. But I
would certainly ask about Miles Garrett. Now, I don't know
if you're going to get Miles Garrett. I don't know
what it would take to get Miles Garrett. But if
I'm the Lions and I have to give up a
first and a second, or first and a third, or

(03:41):
pay part of the South, whatever it is, you have
your moment here, because I don't know if you have
a great team in the NFC right now, unless it's
the Lions, because the forty nine ers are still banged up. Eagles,
they don't look They're not convincing me of anything right now.
Cowboys we know that.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Are the Vikings a great team?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Packers?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Are they a great team? So you have your moment.
You had it last year and you let it slip away.
You gotta go out and get somebody.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yes, and hopefully the Lions are looking at sort of
this window and recognizing how quickly they close. You know,
the NFL has a bunch of teams right now that
just two years ago, we're set up for the next
ten years and they're terrible right now, or or things
are just a mess. This You have to be all
in right now for this year. I think if you're

(04:37):
the Lions.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I don't know if the Bengals will sell. But
here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
You know, the Bengals might say the following you can
have Miles Garrett. You have to take to Shaun Watson.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I know, but to do what, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
But it feels like, Okay, we're gonna give you something,
but you also have to take something. I mean, you're
gonna have to start over, and maybe you're starting over
after next season. Then you get out of that contract.
You try to move forward there. But you know, people
had high hopes for the Browns. They were a playoff

(05:17):
team last year. Deshaun Watson coming back, and I know
there's a lot of baggage with him, but we thought
if he ever reclaimed sort of that pedestal that he
was on with the Texans when he played great football
for a bad team. And the Browns can be threatening,
and they're not. They just have no spark. They really
don't even seem like they're interested. And that's strange to

(05:41):
say this early in the season. But I'm watching and
I don't see anything that offense is vanilla. It has
been neutered. And Miles Garrett blocks a field goal and
they score a Touchdow. I mean, that's their offense. But
if if I'm Miles Garrett, I think I quietly back
channeled just to say, how can I help this franchise

(06:05):
move forward?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Because we're not moving forward?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Now? Can I help you in the future. I'd be
willing to be traded to somebody else. And Detroit's not
that far from Cleveland. He could drive there, he could
commute if he wanted to.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
How would make him go to practice?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, show up on Sunday. To show up on Sunday,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
We'll have somebody come and pick Dan Campbell, come and
pick you up, get you all fired up.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
For the game.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
But yeah, I started to think that yesterday. Well, with
the injury, and look, I know the cowboy part of
this is going to be the bigger story, but it
shouldn't be, because the Lions are a super Bowl quality
team and you lose a great player. But the cowboy's
losing again at home. And remember Jerry was all in

(06:50):
in the off season. And I'll go back to what
Dan Orlomsky said on the show this was months ago.
He said, I think Jerry likes his team being talked about,
and I don't think he's as interested in building a
championship team now.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
At first I thought, well, Jerry wants that championship.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
I think he's addicted to the publicity his team gets
every day. His team has talked about are they going
to re sign Dak?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
What about C? D Lamb? What about Micah Parsons, what
about Mike McCarthy. It's always spoken about. And this team
wasn't all in. This team isn't good, the defense isn't good.
Now you're saying to Dak. They brought back Zeke Elliott, like,
what are.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
We doing here? You got CD Lamb. Doesn't seem like
he's on the same page with Dak Prescott. Micah Parsons
pick up a white courtesy phone. So and it's Jerry
Jones's eighty second birthday yesterday. Oh blow out the Candles, No, No,

(07:55):
blow out the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Yes, Paulie, I will say this about the Cowboys angle.
This home losses hit harder. Bad home losses hit a
lot harder than just a random loss, Like you know
you're going to lose to the I wouldn't say, you
know you're going to lose, but to get wiped out
by the Lions. The Lions are running goofy plays and
trick plays. It felt like a high school team toying
with an average. It felt like a homecoming game. Yeah,

(08:18):
where you bring in the team that can't play and
the Lions are toying with them and to have I
think the Cowboys are zero to three this year and
they're averaging seventeen points a game.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
The loss to the Lions there was home loss since
nineteen eighty eight, and the Lions have scored forty or
more points in consecutive games.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
They're a really good team. But now with Aiden Hutchinson out, you.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Know, since I'll go back to this started the twenty
twenty two season that was Hutchinson's rookie season. Only Nick
Bosa has more quarterback pressures than Aiden Hutchinson. Only five
players have over one hundred pressures over that span, so
you got Bosa, Max Crosby, Hutchinson, Jones, and Josh heinz Allen. Also,

(09:03):
he has almost twenty nine sacks and thirty nine career games,
so he's playing at a really high level. He had
eight and a half sacks in nine games. So I
think that's really the important part of all of this
is you won, you dominated, but there's a it's not

(09:24):
a complete win.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
You lose a really really good player.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
And I would certainly i'd explore it because you get
this window and you met and as Seaton said, how
many times do we go, Boy, they're set up for
the future and then all of a sudden the futures
now like the Niners, Oh man, they're set up.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Are the Eagles? Yeah? Are they?

Speaker 4 (09:46):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
You got to be all in.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
The Eagles are stacked, running this crazy offense and their
coach might get fired and nobody likes their quarterback. That's
like eighteen months and.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Go back to the Super Bowl where they all won
the Super Bowl. Yeah, and you're like, hey, they got
young Way, they got Saquon Barkley. Man, they are loaded
on offense. They are loaded, but they're loaded like they're drunk, Like,
can't you guys get this together?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
They don't.

Speaker 8 (10:15):
Look.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I thought the Browns, Yes, you know, prior to the game,
the Browns were gonna win that game just because one day,
one one game, one Sunday, they're gonna stumble into a
win that they have no business with. And I thought
that that's what it was going to be because the
Eagles hadn't been playing that well.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
Yes, Marvin, in sports, to me, the three most dangerous
words in sports for a young team or a team
that's really good is they'll be back, like you can't know.
The Jaguars probably should have beat the Patriots in the
AFC Title Game a couple years ago. Young quarterback, young
Jalen Ramsey, Kalays Campbell, Miles Jack and now look at them.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, I mean it happens all the time that you go, oh,
ask Dan Marino, Eh, second year in the NFL, you
go to the Super Bowl. Man, he's gonna have a
lot of Super Bowl appear Now. That was it one
and Donner. Yeah, Pauline, I'm.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Sure you guys were the same yesterday. That felt like
a collective sports depression. When Hutchinson went down and when
the announcer said, we're not even gonna show it, that's
how you know how serious it is. I'm a Bears fan,
but I was in the point where I was like,
this is just this sucks. It's like a sports depression.
Was a great week in a sports Baseball and when
Hutchinson goes down. You're like, look at the Lions, you

(11:30):
had this great day. You're whipping the Cowboys on national TV.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Just it bummed out everybody.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Bills are favored by one against the Jets coming up tonight.
I think it started out at around two or two
and a half, but now it's down to one with
the Jets being an underdog at home. All right, Seaton
poll question today. I apologize from my voice. This has
been going on for about ten days now. This is
a cold that is grabbed a hold and not leaving

(11:58):
me anytime soon.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Yes, hot thought, it's kind of hot.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
It's got a little Sam Elliott and that's a good thing.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Don't feel don't feel too bad. It's kind of hot.

Speaker 8 (12:07):
M I'm all about that Rathby voice.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I know, oh don't I know?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, when Fritzy says, hey just talk to me, I
go about what it doesn't matter.

Speaker 10 (12:20):
So to stop sending text, can you just leave me
voicemails that I can play back, Yeah, discritch it?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, Hi Todd, how are you?

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (12:28):
Super hot?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, thank you?

Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yes, it is kind of like pequed to me more.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
She was already at ten and then the voice kicked
it up if possible to an eleven.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
So I sound like to me, Moore take it as
a compliment.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Okay, remember when she used to like call to be like, hey,
can you have any fantasy football advice for me?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I know that really happened. I know when she was
married to Ashton Kutcher, that really happened. And she wanted
some fantasy advice, and I said, you came to the
right place. Oh, she goes no fantasy football. Have you
heard my voice? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's when I called Ashton soft and he
was in the car with her, and you could hear Ashton,
could you go?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
He called me soft? He called me soft? Oh that's
right to me. More needing some fantasy?

Speaker 8 (13:15):
Then I meant, should I play the cult defense? You
know where you're going with it?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, you can play defense against me, little kitten? Yeah,
you want a three four or four to three.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
You know this conversation is going to get back to
like someone.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, I hope.

Speaker 8 (13:33):
So you promise.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Are you gonna play two safeties? Deep? Uh? What do
you have, Seaton?

Speaker 5 (13:42):
How about we start with the worst loss this weekend? Oo,
the worst loss of the weekend.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, after the break.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Oh I okay, all right, all right, So we'll get
phone calls coming up, and uh, let me see a little.
Oh Ross Tucker, a good buddy, will join us, but
later on as will Rick Neuheisel, the CBS Sports analyst
and former college coach. So take a break, just getting started,
just getting started here back after this.

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Speaker 2 (14:47):
What do you do if you're the Lions today this morning? Ross?

Speaker 11 (14:51):
Oh, Dan, that hurt my heart, man, that really really did.
I mean he's probably their best player, you know, to
watch that, and I felt bad, Dan, I literally all
I had this past weekend was a college game. So
while I'm watching the Lions blow out the Cowboys, I

(15:13):
post on social media. I'm ready to watch the Lions
win the Super Bowl. I'm not kidding Dan. Within two
minutes that injury happens. So Lions fans think I jinxed them.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
They I think they do.

Speaker 11 (15:27):
Need to at least explore who else they could get. Heck,
maybe they should call the Jets and try to get Hassan.
Redick doesn't seem like he really wants to be If
Drew Rosenhaus is meeting with the Jets today about Reddick's contract,
why don't they just he probably doesn't really want to
be there, figured out that send him to Detroit somehow,
Because you don't say this, with that many injuries, it's

(15:52):
hard to picture them winning the Super Bowl without him.
He's their best player. He was one of the front
runners for Defensive Player of the Year. Yes, teams overcome injuries,
but rarely the guys like that. You're gonna play three
or four playoff games, you need to close those games out.
You need to have a dominant player that offenses need

(16:13):
to worry about. In the offensive lineman like me, we're
doubling up. We're talking about all week. That is a
that feels like one of the injuries you can't overcome
unless you get somebody else in there.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Okay, do you call the Browns about Miles Garrett?

Speaker 11 (16:30):
Yeah, but they're not gonna do that. I mean that
that would really surprise me. Although in fairness I say
that about the Jets. They just fired their head coach
and this is the last year of the contract for
the GM Joe Douglas. So if you're Joe Douglas, why
would you trade us on Reddick? And in fact, why
won't you just give us on Redick whatever contract he

(16:51):
wants so he plays for you as soon as possible
so you can win ten games and make the playoffs
and maybe get a new contract from your owner, Woody Johnson.
I mean, it's not your money at this point. You
might as well do whatever you can, throw out all
the stops to try to get Reddick to play for
the Jets if you're there this year.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
I mean, yeah, you can call the Browns, but that
would really surprise me.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
The Cowboys situation, it's not going to get better, it's
probably going to get worse. But can you do anything
to placate your fan base here? At least the Jets
fired their head coach. What is Jerry Jones?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
What did the Cowboys do to rectify this if they can?

Speaker 8 (17:34):
Well?

Speaker 11 (17:34):
So that's interesting because it feels like Jerry Jones used
to be very sort of a impulsive, impetuous owner. He's
changed Dan almost in every way right to go into
this season being clearly worse at a number of positions,
and to know probably ahead of time you weren't really

(17:58):
a contender going into this year, and he seems.

Speaker 8 (18:01):
Okay with that for whatever reason.

Speaker 11 (18:04):
My guess is they will convince themselves that, you know,
that only happened because Micah Parsons didn't play and DeMarcus
Lawrence and when they get those guys back.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
But it does feel like there's a.

Speaker 11 (18:18):
Number of situations around the league right now where it
feels like the head coach is kind of kind of
hanging on by threads.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Okay, would you say Doug Peterson's situation is worse in
trying to keep his job or Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 11 (18:35):
I would say Peterson's is worse just because they've been
that bad.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
The Cowboys.

Speaker 11 (18:42):
You know, last week they beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh
without some of their best players. So at least I
think for the Cowboys, you could stay We're still right
in the mix in the NFC East.

Speaker 8 (18:55):
For the Jags, it feels like an ugly situation.

Speaker 11 (18:59):
I mean, almost all those guys, if you look at
that team, Dan, almost all those guys have gotten big
contracts from the Jags, Like these are the guys the
Jags want to have playing. It's not some big injury issue.
They paid the whole O line, all their receivers are
like Gabe Davis, Christian Kirk, I mean, their whole defense.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
These are the These are the guys that.

Speaker 11 (19:22):
The Jags want to have on their team, and they've
invested in and they're still terrible. That's a really tough
thing for a coach and GM to come back from.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I know you're close to the Eagles situation. Nick Siriani
doesn't comport himself as a head coach like you're engaging
with the crowd and look, I know that Philadelphia crowd
can be rough even after a win. It just it
just feels like this doesn't end well your thoughts about
this team.

Speaker 11 (19:53):
Well, so what's so interesting about it is that he
did stuff like this in twenty when they went to
the Super Bowl and we're probably the best team in
the league, and because they were so good, and because
they were winning, and because he was primarily doing it
like to the camera or to the opposing team's fans,

(20:15):
a lot of people kind.

Speaker 8 (20:16):
Of liked it.

Speaker 11 (20:17):
Right, Well, they have the collapse last year, they're not
playing well this year. They certainly did not play well
yesterday even though they won the game, And now.

Speaker 8 (20:28):
He's doing it to Eagles fans. That does not go
over very well.

Speaker 11 (20:33):
Now. The funny thing is is, you know, I'm from there, right,
and so I see the text messages from my buddies.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
I know that if a bunch of my buddies were
ever the.

Speaker 11 (20:42):
Head coach of the Eagles and they were getting booed
that they would probably do.

Speaker 8 (20:45):
The same stuff. Siria, we won.

Speaker 11 (20:47):
What do you think now? What are you gonna say now?
Because that's how a lot of people from where we're
from are like. But it's not a good look. I'm
surprised he did it. You know what's interesting to me
about it, dan Is Brandon Graham was laughing about it,
and then Jalen Hurts it after the game that I
guess a bunch of the leaders on the team like

(21:08):
Hurts and Brandon Graham have encouraged Sirianni to be more
like he was.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
In twenty twenty two. Okay, to show more emotion, to
be more like that.

Speaker 11 (21:20):
And maybe he was trying to do what the players
told him they wanted during the bye week. I'm not sure,
but man, you barely beat the Browns. You win a
game like that, it's not a good look. Look, you're
never gonna win. And you know this, Dan, but especially
in Philadelphia, you're never gonna win. Saying anything to your

(21:41):
own fans, anything other than they were right to boo.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
We weren't playing well.

Speaker 11 (21:46):
We were in a close game against the Browns. We
had just gotten a field goal blocked and returned for
a touchdown to tie the game. I understand why they
were booing. I would have been booing as well.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
We're talking Ross Tucker Westwood once be a sports NFL
and college football analyst, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah. I.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And then he brings his son to the press conference, Like,
if you want to deflect getting in front of the media,
bring one of your kids and sit him on your lap,
as Nick Siriani did yesterday.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Well done.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
Well, he's done that a bunch.

Speaker 11 (22:23):
In fairness, he does bring his kids to the postgame
press conference a decent amount of the time. You know,
that's another one that it's so funny. Like when they
were winning and really rolling people, Dan, people thought it
was cute and awesome, right, But now that he had
that incident at the end of the game and they

(22:43):
barely won, now everybody's saying he's deflecting and you know,
in fairness, you know, or using them as a shield.

Speaker 8 (22:53):
In fairness, the Philadelphia media does not care.

Speaker 11 (22:56):
They asked him all the questions anyway, right, I mean,
they don't care who you are have there, They're gonna
ask the questions anyway.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
So I mean, if the goal.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Would have to say effs you say to your kid
ear muffs, you know, yeah, like.

Speaker 11 (23:08):
If that was the goal to protect him, I don't
think it really worked because they still ask him those
same questions.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Okay, what do you expect to happen tonight with the
Jets offense against Buffalo? Now that you've demoted Nathaniel Hackett
and you fired Robert salah Man, I.

Speaker 8 (23:27):
Am so curious. I mean, let's be honest, at this point,
they might as well just made Aaron Rodgers the player coach, right.

Speaker 11 (23:33):
I mean, they might as well just go no huddle
and let Rogers call the plays. You know that's what
he wants to do anyway, you know that would be
his preference. I gotta tell you that game last week, Dan,
when they were playing the Vikings. That's about as miserable

(23:53):
of a facial expression, body language as I think I've
seen a guy play football in a long time. I
posted during the game, I'd be really surprised if he
plays next year. I mean, maybe they turn it around,
they have a great year and they go on to run.
But he's getting the crap beat out of him. He
looks like even when Brady was playing for the Bucks,

(24:17):
he didn't look old.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (24:19):
Maybe that's because of whatever Brady does with his body
and whatever, But like Rogers looked sad, old, miserable. He
did not look like he looked like he was having
zero fun, Dan, zero fun.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
The Ravens with Derrick Henry and without Derrick Henry, how
does that? I mean, what they're doing running is historical.
I mean we have not seen this differential between what
the Ravens do running and what the opposition does. So
you're keeping your defense off the field, You're running the football. Now,

(24:57):
play action really means something. So when Lamar does play action,
I mean, this is old school football in a lot
of ways. But Derrick Henry is does he make them
the best team in the AFC?

Speaker 11 (25:14):
I think he does. That's exactly. You just took the
words right out of my mouth, Dan. I think he does.
I mean, what you have is a quarterback that's still
playing at an MVP level like he did last year,
and you've added a Hall of Fame running back.

Speaker 8 (25:30):
And by the way, I don't know how many more.

Speaker 11 (25:33):
Hall of Fame running backs there are going to be,
or how many more guys we can say while they're playing,
or a Hall of Fame running back, But that's Henry
and he has added an element to them. The concerning
thing there is they're not as good on defense as
they've been the last couple of years. They're not as

(25:53):
good in particular in the secondary, which is why I
think it behooves them to run the ball more like
they have been with Derrick Henry, to try to keep
that secondary on the sideline.

Speaker 8 (26:06):
I mean, I thought they.

Speaker 11 (26:07):
Were the best team last year and they blew it
against the Chiefs in the AFC. Championship right now. I
think they're the best team again. Whether or not they'll
be able to get it done in a playoff game
against Mahomes and Kelsey and the Chiefs will see, but
they certainly have a lot of the pieces that you'd
like to be able to knock off the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think that's the first Behoove that we've had on
the show, at least in a while.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I mean, very impressive there.

Speaker 11 (26:32):
I don't break it out often, and I don't really
know where I got it.

Speaker 8 (26:36):
You feel like that's the word, a type of word that.

Speaker 11 (26:38):
Someone says when they're trying to act smarter than they
really are. Or was that just did that flow naturally?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Well, it's a I went to Princeton and you didn't
kind of feel to it. I mean, that's what I'm
getting from you.

Speaker 8 (26:50):
Well, what's the other word I would use there? Like,
what's the other word? And what's the alternative? It helps
their defense out and use it it behooves?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Their defense would be good for them. You could have said,
but you you you dropped a behoover.

Speaker 11 (27:06):
I got a question, do we think that Fritzy knows
the word behooves what it means? And or has ever
used it in a sentence in his life.

Speaker 8 (27:14):
Tod, I'm familiar with the definition.

Speaker 9 (27:16):
I don't know if I've ever used that.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
What is the definition?

Speaker 10 (27:20):
I don't know how to define in words, but I
know how to.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
No.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
No, we're asking for the definition.

Speaker 10 (27:27):
It would behoove me to not eat like nine slices
of pizza when I get home for lunch. That would
be it would be a good idea to not do that.
It would behoove me to go for a walk instead
of eating like a Jersey Mike giants sub That's how
I would use behoof.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Okay, all right, well, it behooves me to say goodbye
to you, Ross, because it's time to move on. We
have to give our best and worst of the weekend.
Thanks for joining us as always been.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
All right, take care, Dan.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
That's Ross Tucker Westwood one CBS Sports, NFL and college
football analyst. He's a busy man. Busy man Charlotte in
El Paso. Hi, Charlotte, thanks for holding best and verst
to the weekend.

Speaker 12 (28:08):
So I have two best and one worst. Okay, My
best part of the weekend is when the long Corns
dominated Oklahoma and getting to talk to you guys as
my second and you said that Oregon is the one
to be. I think it's the Longhorns. We have a
high power offense and a hard hitting defense.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well I meant in the Big Ten, Charlotte, But you're right,
Texas is a great football team. And thank you for calling.
Please call again. Yeah, Texas looked great against Okloma. I
was talking about the Big Ten because it's Ohio State
and Oregon, two best teams there, and then put in
Penn State. But this whole cross country travel is that

(28:51):
it's a real deal. We've seen that these teams go
on you know, two three time zones, they're not playing well,
let me see Duke and Charlotte.

Speaker 13 (29:00):
Hi, Luke, Hey everybody. I hope you had a good
weekend at the best and worst. You know, I got
to go with my Ducks for the best of the weekend,
specifically Dan Lanning a couple of great things there. You
guys touched on the twelve men definitely a little bell
check you and play there. But then also I loved
probably the funniest on side kick I've ever seen, where

(29:22):
they just nailed the front man. Yes, I mean it
takes huge, huge, Stones to pull that off and my
worst I gotta go with Aiden Hutchinson. Just s feel
for the guy in Folklians.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, thanks for the phone call there, Luke.
I think it's everybody's worst of the weekend. Just you
knew the injury was bad as soon as you saw it.
They weren't even going to show it to you again.
It was that bad.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
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Speaker 3 (29:58):
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Eight seven seven three DP. Show operator Tyler is sitting by.
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(30:43):
Seaton O'Connor.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Let me update you here real quick, Dan, We've got
we one, but did we right now? It's actually a
tie between Alabama and the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Two great bands. Okay, oh better band?

Speaker 8 (30:57):
Now?

Speaker 5 (30:57):
A better band to Alabama or the Eagles. Our three
pole questions just nailed it.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
There. Where did that come from?

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yeah, I gotta throw this out.

Speaker 7 (31:10):
I've always thought the Eagles are a pretty great band,
successful band. There's just a touch before my time. But
I heard some guy know who really knows music. I
think he knows music. You know this guy, Dan, He's oh,
the Eagles are terrible. Their music's horrible. And I go, really,
he goes, oh, they're one of the worst bands of
all time. Everyone knows that. But he said it like
it's conventional wisdom.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
It's not.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
It's not right.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Your friend is a music snah, you know him, Like
he'll go, Husker do is one of the great bands
of all time?

Speaker 7 (31:35):
Right, Like he thinks Bob mold is greater than Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Yeah, well, okay, well he's not far off with that take.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
However, however, he's not far off.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
Do you think people, you know what, on bands that
are successful for a long time just because.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
The Eagles are an incredible band? Incredible?

Speaker 8 (31:54):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
You know you've got Don Henley playing the drums, lead singer.
I mean, I mean, yeah, I get that.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
You could get tired of hearing some of the songs
that that's just because they're so big. You can't say
the Eagles are terrible.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
I hear a lot of similar criticism.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
The Eagles could be the greatest American band of all time.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
I mean, once you remove bon Jovie, I mean, several
other great American bands, then yes, you will eventually get
to the Eagles, and it's high up there.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Best American band of all time is.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
Who They're all Lucky Russias Canadian? Yeah, probably the Beach Boys.
Oh so Beach Boys.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Over the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
I don't know, but I'm just throwing them out there.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Aerosmith, there has to be there has to be a
list of greatest Green Day.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Relaxed.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Marvin went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
over the weekend and of course went to the Green
Day exhibit.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
When I asked the lady.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
I was like, where's the Green Day exhibit?

Speaker 7 (32:57):
She was like, huh, I'll throw out some more Guns
and Roses.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Metallica, Yeah yeah, Ron Metallica's had sure.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Aerosmiths will definitely be on that list.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Aerosmith over the previous two. Guns and Roses and Metallica.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Definitely readings they're top ten for sure.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Not a big enough catalog.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Van Halen kicked a lot of ass.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yeah, Van Halen, Yes, absolutely, Van Halen or Van Hagar,
Oh watch it.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think the Eagles are the greatest American band of
all time.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
Did you look at Tom Petty as an individual artist
or a band because it's Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Yeah,
say it's a band, but I think people treat.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
Him as an individual.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Are em never never that popular in the United States?
Unfortunately they even said that, but they.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah, they were like one of those bands that, uh
you know who was that band too? That their sex
is on Fire and they did Kings of Lions of Leon.
They were they would play to like seventy five thousand
people in Europe and two thousand people in the United States, Like,
how's that possible? Yeah, it's crazy and.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Then eventually they both got massive.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
But yeah, I saw them open up for you two
in Chicago and.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
They sounded awesome. They were great.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
You're right, Aerosmith's got to be up there.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, yeah, Aerosmith would be up their top five greatest
American bands of all time.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
I know you're going to disagree, but you're wrong. The
Doors are on that list.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
The Doors should not be on there.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
Your opinion is wrong.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Your opinion is wrong. Yeah, the Doors are not one
of the top five American bands of all time.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Did you say Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
The Lynyrd Skinnard, Yeah, I don't know. I'm just we're
just workshopping this. We didn't plan this.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
Is Simon and Garfunkle. They're not a band, They're a duo.
So do they are? They out of that group?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
They wouldn't be in it even as a.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
I found myself recently. I was talking to somebody and
I referred to bands playing as acts, and.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I was like, why did I say that?

Speaker 5 (35:07):
You ever like in your head something comes out of
your mouth and you're like, well, that's like an act.
I was really looking forward to seeing it. I'm like, act,
what am I ninety five years old?

Speaker 8 (35:14):
What the heck?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Why did I just call them acts?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah? Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Impact.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Yeah, right now, early results better band Alabama or the Eagles.
Eagles have seventy two percent of that vote.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Uh, yas Barman, are all of.

Speaker 9 (35:32):
The best bands from Europe or from England specifically?

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, okay, I mean you start with the Beatles. Nobody's
better than.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
The Beatles, Stones, who saw Me?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
All the Stones are in there?

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Zeppelin, Zeppelin sticks.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
We didn't mention sticks at Chicago. Hello sticks? You could
squeeze them in there? Are you? Speed Wagon?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Journey?

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Loving, touching squeezing. Fritzy has nothing to say.

Speaker 10 (36:01):
Because I like Chicago, though, that was going to say, because.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
You have no idea about these musical acts.

Speaker 10 (36:07):
If it's not like the old eighties rappers or hall
On Oates a Billy Joel. You guys mentioned a lot
of heavy metal groups, but doesn't mess ui you have
to be heavy metal.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
We did like it's like Van Halen. You could maybe say,
like the Eagles aren't heavy? Paul mentioned like Metallica in
them earlier.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, yeah, we haven't mentioned we mentioned the Beach Boys.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Fritzy likes his Rock Light.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Journey or Loving Touch and squeezing.

Speaker 10 (36:35):
The best of Chicago. That's a that's some strong stuff
digitally remastered.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Peter sata Era or Christopher Cross.

Speaker 10 (36:42):
You're the inspiration all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
How about we bring in Rick new Heisel, CBS Sports
college football analyst, would you love? He was on site
for Penn State's win over USC at the LA Coliseum. Rick,
thanks for joining us. I'm not gonna start there. I
want to bring up something to happen in the Oregon game.
Did Oregon put one over on Ohio State? From the

(37:06):
standpoint of having they had twelve players on the field
second to last play, and it's only a five yard
penalty if it's twelve players on the field. And then
the clock doesn't reset after the penalty, so time dripped
down off of the clock, and then Ohio State got
five yard penalty, but you took away five seconds on

(37:29):
the clock. So did they Did they pull one over
on Ohio State?

Speaker 14 (37:35):
Here's what I know about defensive coaches. They know every
trick in the book. Years ago, Arizona State against UCLA
when I was coaching at UCLA, put thirteen guys on
the field on a second down in goal from the
seven yard line with eight seconds left in the first half.

(37:58):
Our quarterback couldn't find anybody to two threw it out
of bounds. Of course, the penalty we get half the
distance to the goal. But now it's three seconds left
in the half and we have to kick the field goal.
So they basically got us, and it was thirteen guys
on the field there. Lanning had called time out. He
saw the bunch. When you play bunches, you meaning three

(38:20):
receivers clumped together, you usually play it in and out
with somebody on the point. You're gonna have You're gonna
be out leveraged on one of those if both if
two receivers go in or two receivers go out, you're
gonna have somebody that's going to be in a leverage
disadvantage when you put another player on top of that
bunch that goes away. This was the twelfth player. The

(38:43):
five yards were worth the five seconds. Brilliant by Oregon.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
We're seeing these teams in the Big Ten going cross
country and it's not pretty.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Now.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I know Purdue or Penn State one at USC, but
I don't know how you coach a time zone or
two time zones, because this is going to be what
life is like in the Big Ten.

Speaker 14 (39:04):
Yeah, it's strange. This Penn States was only the second victory.
I think their teams are now two and eight or
two and nine that have traveled two time zones. It
is life in the Big Ten. It's going to be
really interesting when we see all the other sports, you know,
basketball and softball and all the other sports start traveling

(39:26):
like this because they're not going to have the benefit
of charter air. They're going to be traveling and making
stops in different cities, across the town and changing planes
and so. But this is the new normal.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
As you say, I know USC was an underdog, but
you're up two touchdowns, you're at home. Is the seat
warm for Lincoln Riley?

Speaker 4 (39:49):
He's lost eight of his last thirteen games.

Speaker 14 (39:52):
That doesn't sit well with Trojan fans, especially who you know,
hit the wallet to make sure Lincoln would come. It
was a brilliant game. Both coaches came out of their
comfort zone. Lincoln ran the ball more than he likes to.
James Franklin threw the ball more than he likes to.
At the end of the day, Drew Aller was better

(40:13):
than Miller Moss, and I wonder how long they can
go with Miller Moss if he's not going to hit
those passes down the stretch because he's not a guy
that can get out of the pocket. Jordan Mayava, the
kid who they got from UNLB, is sitting on the sideline.
I wouldn't be shocked to see him getting some chances
here in the coming weeks.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
But are the expectations too high for USC?

Speaker 4 (40:39):
No? It's USC.

Speaker 14 (40:40):
I mean they've won eleven national champions I know what
that feels like.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
It's a long, long, long time ago, Rick.

Speaker 14 (40:46):
But if they have the resources which they do, to
go and get the best and brightest across the country,
which has always been the case. I mean, if you
go to Pete Carroll, you go to John McKay, they
always had players that came from far away wanted to
be part of the glitz and glamour of USC, then
you can put together a great team. They're better defensively,

(41:07):
but they haven't stopped. I mean they had two fourth
down chances on that final drive. This has got to
get better, and it's got to get better faster. They're
going to have be some really upset Trojans. And when
you have a fan base that gets divided, which was
the case with Clay Helton, that just isn't united, then it's.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Just a matter of time before the coach is the
guy that goes.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Is Rick new Heisl CBS Sports College Football Analyst, better
pro prospect, Quinn? Yours are Arch Manning.

Speaker 14 (41:36):
I think probably Arch, given the way we saw Arch run. Now,
Quinn I think is also a beautiful pro prospect. But
Arch has maybe that X factor, which are the ability
to get out of a pocket and make plays with
his legs.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Could you imagine if Alabama lost to in a row.

Speaker 14 (41:57):
The world would come off of his axis? I mean
Dan Patrick, I mean that Patrick would cease to have
a great time with the dan Ets.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
What the heck?

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I know?

Speaker 3 (42:06):
But you lose to Vandy at Vandy, then you come
home and I think everybody thought, poor South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
I said this the other day.

Speaker 14 (42:14):
I think college football is we're in a new state
of normal with the transfer portal because nobody has the
just assembled depth that these blue bloods have had in
the past. Because those that aren't playing get a chance
to go someplace else and.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Get paid to do so.

Speaker 14 (42:34):
So you're not stockpiling maybe the same way you used to.
And the teams that you're playing, the South Carolinas with
sec resources are going to have some really good players too.
Vanderbilt is a perfect case. Clark Lee went and said, Okay,
I saw New Mexico State go in and beat Auburn
thirty one to ten a year ago. Diego Pabya is

(42:55):
an excellent little player in this offense. I'm going to
go call Jerry Kill and I'm going to say, Larry,
can I have everybody? Can I take all of these guys,
including five players, and have them come to Vanderbilt. And
it says a lot about Vanderbilt that they said, I
don't care necessarily about their academic situation. Bring them because
we got to fix what's broken here at Vanderbilt. And

(43:15):
now Clark Lee's got something going there in Nashville. So
the portal is bringing us parody? Is that a good thing?

Speaker 4 (43:22):
It is? It is? It's fambulous football.

Speaker 14 (43:25):
I mean we had I think it's the second time
since overtime began in the nineties where we had four
top twenty five teams in overtime games. If you don't
like that, I don't know what's wrong with you.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Army and Navy are undefeated. Both have Notre Dame. Stop
the presses. I know Notre Dame. They both have Notre
Dame coming up. They have to face each other as well.
Is there a chance one of these teams gets into
the twelve team playoffs?

Speaker 14 (43:55):
There is a chance these two teams. And I talked
to jeffunk And on this, the head coach at Army.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
He loves his team.

Speaker 14 (44:03):
They were worried when the rules changed that you couldn't
cut block from outside, that the triple option was going
to go by way of the whales. Well they've got
it back, and they both got quarterbacks in Horvath and
Daily that are dual threat. They can run, they're both
on pass for thousand yard seasons as rushers, but they're

(44:24):
also got the forward pass and hitting, you know, big plays.
So it's like the days of Tom Osborne in that
kind of belly option world when you have to have
safeties down there making tackles and all of a sudden
are running people by them. You are hard to corral
and it's fun to It's Doc Blanchard and Glenn Davis again,
my friend nineteen forty five were back's the Glenn Miller band.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
You said the forward pass. You don't say that about
any other teams in America. They they're using the forward pass.

Speaker 14 (44:56):
It's like, and I mean pop order is something people
up in heaven. Same go watch these kids.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
It's like indoor plumbing. There. You got the forward pass.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
The stage coach.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Great to talk to you as always. Thank you, Rick,
Always a treat. College football always delivers DP. That's the great.
Rick Neuheisel, CBS Sports college football analyst and former head
coach
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