October 29, 2024 • 39 mins
Dan recaps Monday Night Football and Game 3 of the World Series. MLB Network's Kevin Millar discusses what the Yankees should do to get out of their 0-3 hole. And Mike Golic shares who he thinks should win the NFL MVP.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's our one this program. Come on in,
stay awhile glad to have you on board. A lot
to recap football from last night, or at least a
reasonable facsimile. Look out for the Steelers. They're now six
and two, no quarterback controversy. They rough up the Giants,
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the Dodgers, they beat the Yankees. They go up three
games to none, and Freddie Freeman has done it again.
Freddie Freeman the third player in baseball history to homer
in each of his first three games of a World Series.
Barry Bonds was the last to do it in two
thousand and two. So if you're curious about the weather
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in the Bronx, it's probably going to be the same
way it was last night. And you know, you start
to look at the numbers of teams that go up
three to zero in the World Series the odds of
somebody coming back. So teams that fall behind three in
the World Series are three and twenty one all time.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
In Game four.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
The last nine teams that fell behind O three or
three to oh in the World Series have lost. The
last time a team came back to win Game four
after losing the first three the Cincinnati Reds in nineteen
seventy Who now steat of a.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Day, Stata a day, Statuta day, scant outa day.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
This is the.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:30):
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the Day, Play of the Day, all of that coming up,
and first pitch tonight, Dodgers at the Yankees for Game four. Now,
(02:11):
I'm not saying it's over over, because I was there
in four when everybody thought it was over over, and
of course we know how that played out. Now, it's
just a coincidence maybe that they are playing that Netflix
documentary on the four Comeback.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
In fact, one of the stars of that documentary, Kevin Malar,
will join us a little bit later on. He's the
one who gave us Cowboy up with those four Red Sox.
Dave Roberts, the Dodger manager, with an interesting question after
last night's win.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
You're one of the few people on earth who know
what it's like to come back from a three to
zero deficit.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Don't talk about wrong guy way too early.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
What do you remember about your mindset going into that,
and what maybe did you learn from that that you
can take into it now that you're on the other side.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
I don't want to.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
Divulge any secrets, but from the other side, I just
think that we have got to stay focused, stay urgent.
I think offensively, to be quite honest, we left a
lot of runs out there tonight, still found a way
to win a ballgame, and there's just got to be urgency.
I just don't want to let these guys up for air.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And that's a great point to make because it helps
that they've jumped out on top. When Freddie Freeman hits
a home run on a one to two pitch and
I'm thinking Wow, it gives you such an advantage. And
Walker Bueller the way he pitched now, I go back
to when he was like sixteen and four, he was
top five cy young. Then he had a couple of
Tommy Johns. But he said, look, I almost need to
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have things mentally be different for me to get up
for a game like this. He said, you know, I
don't like admitting this, but that's what it is. You
get out there, you get caught up in it, your
stake to you know, to lead and Freddie Freeman, you know,
how about the Yankees. Don't throw the same pitch to
Freddie Freeman because it feels like that inside part of
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the plate he's going to hit a home run. John
Smold said, it like everything I'm gonna throw is away, away, away.
He can go to first base if he wants. He's
not going anywhere with a bad ankle. Let him go
to first base. I don't want him trotting around the bases.
But they're throwing the same pitch or at least the
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same location, and he's made them pay. So that's coming
up tonight, first pitch at eight point eight Eastern with
the Dodgers trying to close out the Yankees. It feels
like there's two fan bases rooting for a sweep. Now,
Baseball fans, I would love to see this go six
or seven. The Dodger fans are rooting for a sweep,
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and the other fan base, the Red Sox, are rooting
for a sweep. They would love nothing better to see
the Yankees swept. And I, of course was there as
a fan when the Cincinnati Reds swept the Yankees four
to zero in the World Series in nineteen seventy six.
I'm not rooting for a sweep because I want baseball
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like baseball got its matchup. Baseball had a great year.
I'd love to have more drama. But if you're a
Dodger fan, hey, let's just win. Let's just win. You know,
no COVID Championship, none of that. This is a true
we won. We were the best team. I didn't. You know,
it's weird. I didn't feel like we had a great
team in baseball this year. Nobody's winning one hundred games,
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but the Dodgers figuring out how to use their pitching staff.
Dave Roberts has done a wonderful job. In fact, if
you said World Series MVP Freddie Freeman is your World
Series MVP. Dave Roberts would be my second choice. I
think he's done a wonderful job in the postseason. He's
figured out who to use when to use them, and
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you're getting your starters. If your starter goes into the
sixth inning, that's like a complete game now, and what
a benefit to be able to help out your bullpen.
The Yankees still trying to figure out, you know, who
they're using, how they're using them. And then you got
Aaron Boone who's always relying on analytics. Eight seven seven
three DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, twitter handle
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at DP show. We'll talk about the Steelers. They beat
the Giants. They're now six and two. We'll look at
their schedule. Mike Golick, Big Michae will join us a
little bit later on as well.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Seaton Poll. Question from our one is going to be.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Oh, we got many many options.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Okay, how about we start with this one foot tap
twice should be old wow, a catch or impressive, but
ultimately nothing. We're going to dive into this now. I
don't know, we can save it for later. You want
to hold you know what gold.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Let me let me hold onto this until next segment,
because I want Paula to get me the rule, the
wording on this, the word salad on this, because I
would thought initially two feet in bounds is two feet
I didn't know if you had to have a right
foot and a left foot in I went Pauli to
get to the official rule book there working at it. Okay, yeah, see,
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how about a sweep in the World Series. Is incredible
for the Dodgers or embarrassing for the Yankees?
Speaker 9 (07:19):
Oh? Wow?
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Can it be both?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Of course it can be both, But the fun is
making you pick one.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I would say embarrassing for the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Why doesn't it just show how dominant the Dodgers are.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, you have Soto who may get a six hundred
million dollar contract. You got Judge and Stanton who have
contracts over three hundred million. You got Garrett Cole who
has two hundred and fifty million dollar contract. That would
be embarrassing if you got swept. But you know, as
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we talked about yesterday, if if I take the big
three out of the Yankee lineup, and by that I
do mean Judge, Soto and Stanton, who else do they have?
We talked about this during the season. I thought it
was a poorly orchestrated lineup and it just felt like
they were top heavy with Wow, look at those guys.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's the other guys that help you win.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Every World Series that I can remember, it's always who's
that guy? Like I always think of Mark Lemke with
the Braves. He batted like four thirty two, and you're going,
Lemmer is the best player out there. Sometimes it's that
guy that you don't expect because you're so focused on
the other guys. Well, you don't have to worry about
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With the Yankees so far, they haven't had that guy
who stepped up from the eight or nine to hole.
And that's the difference. The Dodgers have people throughout the lineup.
It's a better balanced lineup, and they have contributed. I
think the general consensus was the Yankees had the pitching edge,
but the Dodgers had the best or lineup. The Dodgers
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have both so far through three games. What else do
you have, Seaton.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Who's having a better week? Freddy Freeman or the field?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, oh, okay, Can I think of anybody other than
Freddie Freeman on Earth who's had a better seven days.
Speaker 10 (09:22):
Wow, Paul I had a name, but even just saying
it's not even that close. Like Jameis Winston had a
really nice week now, but no, we think of anybody
that's a regular season game and he threw it. He
had two interceptions that they dropped.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yes, Jane Daniel might have to play of the Year
in the NFL. He's had a pretty good week.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, he had one play.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Which is really more luck than anything.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Oh, that's sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, Freddie Freeman showed talent.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
There that was armed talent that didn't that Dane showed.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Is there is there a somebody out of sports who's
had a better seven days than Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Like some billionaire who acquired at oil company.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Or no, because then there's still a billionaire. It didn't
change their life. Yes, Mark our boy had hollow. Ben
Carol had fifty last night from My Orlando Magic. He
had thirty seven in the first half, and then all
of a sudden, I realized Klay Thompson had thirty three
and a quarter one time.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
How about that, Todd, you got a nominee here.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I like Jamis Winston.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I know I wouldn't put him ahead of Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 11 (10:34):
But that's a big deal of Brown's taking down the
Ravens with a guy that was like a third string quarter.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Nobody cares a little bit of love. That's nobody cares
about Jameis winsday.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
Gigantic win for the Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
No, if you're the Browns, I don't think you want
gigantic wins. I think you want, you know, disastrous losses. Here,
Let's just you know, get a draft pick. Wait, are
their draft picks still going to Houston or have they
given up all their draft pitch?
Speaker 10 (11:02):
So Freeman's got it over everyone on her.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think everybody on earth so far.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I can't think of another person in the world who's
having a good week.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well better week, because I'm having a good week. I
recovered from serious shoulder surgery. I'm here, I mean good
spirits and uh, you know, half the audience didn't think
I'd be here. So it's sort of a Freddie Freeman
kind of performance here, not necessarily completely healthy, limping to
the microphone just to be able to say I'm the
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luckiest man on the face of the earth.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yes, I think your.
Speaker 11 (11:36):
Neck and neck with Freddy froman you're healing quickly and
you dropped a bomb on us yesterday about the families.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Oh that's right, you know, going to be a grandfather again.
So yeah, I've had a Freddie Freeman like right there. Yeah,
Freddie Freeman should hold.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
Your microphone up the way Freddie did with the scepter
with the bat to hold the microan.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I know that is a great pose though, really that
that's almost like a statu pose. Yes, if you were
going to do a Freddie Freeman statue, I would have
him where the bat is up like a scepter. I
did watch the Miami Heat pre game last night and
it was about Dwayne Wade, and Dwayne Wade was on
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with our buddy Jason Jackson, and they're talking about the
statue and Dwayne says, a statue doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
To look like you.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, I think they made it worse because they're
trying to go, you know, a it's just a statue.
It doesn't look like Dwayne Wade. But they're showing all
these wonderful plays. And then he's up there pre game
and he's talking about the statue and you're just going.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That doesn't look like you. That doesn't look like it.
Speaker 10 (12:49):
Yes, Pauline is Freddie Freeman's week like positive, similar to
the statue makers negative.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
We don't know his name.
Speaker 10 (12:59):
I didn't give it out. Found the name of the
two people who made the statue, but I did not
give it out yet.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I saw the process.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I saw the Miami Heat pregame show Man, you have
a great life, Dan, You're right, I do. But you know,
he's Dwayne Wade's there while they're making the statue. I
don't know if anybody at any point go.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It doesn't look anything like him.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
Did Dwayne bring up like a buddy with him, like
they went with the wrong guy.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
No, I don't think they went, oh you're Dwayne Wade.
Oh cow wait, Tommy, we thought you were Dwayne Wade. Yes,
I do like that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The people who built it were like, yeah, well, no
one in the world could have done better, so whatever, Yeah, like.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Yeah, best anybody could do. Sorry, this is it. This
is the best it can be done.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
But it makes me wonder about all these statues, you know,
centuries ago, like did they capture like, did did David
really look like that?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Did you know? Did did he say after the fact.
I don't know. I think I'm a little larger than that.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
It was called in the room. Yeah, clearly called in
that let's go.
Speaker 11 (14:10):
Yes, And they didn't have gyms and workout equipment like
that to get such abs.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I don't know. Back in centuries ago, they.
Speaker 10 (14:17):
Carried their stuff to their homes, Like when they went
to get beef, they didn't have a shopping cart. They
carried it to their homes.
Speaker 11 (14:22):
That's pretty impressive for centuries ago and not tough to
yoked up gym.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I don't know when abs became a big deal. And
I'm being serious here, like it's almost like overnight where
people had to have ass you.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
See, I disagree, I bet you. Before fast food and
stuff like this, back in the Roman days, everyone was.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Shredfast, but nobody said, hey, check out Dave's abs. They
they just that's how you looked. Back then, it became
like abs became something. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
They would have modeled it after real humans, like when
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But they didn't go, hey are you doing your crunches today, David?
But now it's like, hey want to be shredded? Like
you can even have cosmetic surgery for your abs?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
ABS? Yes, yeah, absolutely, thank you, Tom.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I like that.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
No, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That was bad.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, but abs became a big deal for some reason. Yes, Marvin, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Saw our friend Drake.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Drake's got abs.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
He's got now he does?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, I was like, oh, ripped. Yeah, it became a
big deal.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
Hold on, let me google that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah he does, he does.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
He has apps.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
Hold is Drake like thirty eight thirty nine?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, but you can have abs. Yeah, it's not it.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's just if you really want to have them, you
just focus on that area. I just I don't remember
it being a big deal when I was growing up.
Have your shirt off. Nobody goes, where's your abs? They
were like, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Or your cut? Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I don't know how we got started on that, but uh,
you know, that's typical of the show.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:12):
Kevin Malaw MLB network analyst co host of Intentional Talk
and you can see him with Ryan Dempster. That'll be
every day at five Eastern during the World Series and
he of course won the World Series Championship with the
Red Sox back in four. Kevin, great to talk to
you again. Looking at this matchup. When the World Series started,
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I thought the Yankee starting pitching was going to be
a big advantage. That has not been the case. Why
do you think that is? Do you agree?
Speaker 9 (16:46):
Yeah, it's funny you could have flipped a coin. I
don't think the Yankees had the advantage going in. I
think everybody was so excited to see the series and
see who's gonna like the layoff or whatever. The problem is.
You need the six, seven, eight nine guys. It's like
every postseason to step up. And you have to agree
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that Tommy Edmond and Andrew Freeman's pickup of that young
man has really been a big difference for this organization,
aside from Freddy Freeman just being Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
John Shombi, who's calling the game for ESPN Radio, said yesterday,
if you take out the top three hitters for the
Yankees and top three for the Dodgers, that's the difference.
That's the depth that you're talking about that they can
make up for these other players if they're not playing well.
The Yankee lineup can't do that. How do you get
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Aaron judge going.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
It's not a matter of how you get it. It's
a hard game. He's struggling at the wrong time, Danny.
I mean that's the problem, right. It's like me and
you going to playing Augusta. We're all excited, and then
your golf game sucks that day. You're like, can it
suck at the home course with my buddies. He's in
a spot right now, and you saw him. He had
better at bats like he saw him that first back.
He missed that fastball. He's just misnt and he was
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able to take a couple breaking balls. He knows the
game plan, he knows the hard end. And then they
threw five so offt away. It's going slower, and it's
so hard when you are trying to get that big, huge,
four hundred and fifty foot home run. A line drive
base at right Bilby would be beneficial for him, but
it's so hard in the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Buddy, how do you pitch to Freddie Freeman?
Speaker 9 (18:25):
I stopped throwing cutters inside, I stopped throwing fastballs inside.
I stopped playing the whole trick him inside. I would
make him try to beat me away. I know there's
a short portion in right field and Yankee Stadium. Freddie
Freeman is so quick inside. And you know what, and
I've always said this, I've said this all year. I
think he's the best hitter in baseball. His approach is
left center, not trying to hit a home run. Give
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me sixty doubles and twenty five homers.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It feels like all of his home runs are off
the same pitch, or at least in the same location.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
I mean that's where he goes right, short and quick
to the baseball and he just snaps it. But he finished.
It's just high. He's got great drills. His approach. I love.
I have a high school kid that looks like him,
like his Torso goes up to his basically pecks, I
mean his legs, his pecks, they're Torso's about that big.
And it's funny because he sits gap to gap. And
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if you notice, most hitters don't do that. They're looking
for twenty five to thirty five great swings a year
in juke twelve, strike out one hundred and eighty. Not
Freddie Freeman. So I appreciate his game plan. Even during
the shift. Now we've stopped the shift, he's still a
three hundred.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Hitter Kevin Malar, MLB network analyst, co host of Intentional Talk,
and of course, won the World Series with the Red
Sox back in four. All right, you got them to
Cowboy up back in four? What's your pep talk to
the Yankees pre game tonight?
Speaker 9 (19:49):
The great news for the Yankees About seven days ago,
Netflix came out with a show called The Comeback. I'll
tell you right now, They're not a team that can't
do it. Would it shock you? It's not an under
dog like team. They just need to start with a
game tonight. Or this could be a sweep.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What episode of the four part episodes with Netflix would
you show to the Yankees prior to tonight's game?
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Probably somewhere in the episode two. If I was you know,
and I don't know if this hap or not, but
I have their jeter on site, I would have two
or three dudes, whether it's whoever that is on your team.
But if I'm Booney, I bring in DJ and I say, hey, dude,
give me five minutes with these guys. Let's just play baseball.
Let's play attention to details. We have to run the
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bases better, we have to play baseball better. We have
to block balls. But we have to focus every pitch,
one thing about there Jeter in the big stage, attention
to details, like it's like a Nick Saban football team.
You're not going to have forty seven holding calls or
you're taking out of the game. My thing is just
stay with me during the seven oh eight start in
snake time eight o eight Eastern time?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Is Jeter allowed to do that since he's working for
I mean, he's working the game. Do you think his
bosses would have a problem if.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
He want would.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I think is just the look isn't good?
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Well, no one knows. You don't have to know.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You're gonna know after tonight's game if they win, they're
going to be like, man, we got this great pep
talk from Cheeter. Captain came in and gave us a
great pep talk.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Here, are there any more secrets in this game? Anymore?
In this world society? Can we put our phones away?
Do we have to tax and tweet Instagram that I'm
with the gap of no Danny, I'm talking about with
nobody knowing. I need you here for five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Wait wait, wait, you were back in four there was
no social media or we would have known everything about
you guys doing shots before the game. We would have
known about what was the naked pull ups by Johnny Damon.
We would have known all of that stuff.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
That's why you got to have that boys Club height
Knitch group, and you can talk about twenty years later.
But my point is, I just think that the Yankees
have to they have to focus on tension of details,
the home runs. They gotta hit home runs. They that's
how they score runs. You can't beat somebody or not,
and you gotta get on base. I mean, they just
need the bottom of the lineup like Chas. They have
not hit with running score position. So you can tip
your hats a doughters or you can say that they're struggling.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
The Otawi situation. Did you see anything that he was
favoring his shoulder last night at the play.
Speaker 9 (22:21):
I saw his swings look good. You can tell like
the swings and misses kind of hurt. The jogging hurts.
He got to trot around the basis with Freddie Freeman's
home run, which is good news. It was alarming after
he grounded out when he ran back and he was
kind of like this, But I'll tell you right now,
he's a tough guy. I mean, he wants to be
out there, and just his presence. What do you see
twenty some of more pitches last night, whether he gets
a hit or not, he's three two, he's three two,
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he's three two, and their stress.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
If the season ends tonight, how are we going to
remember Otani this year?
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Probably he'll have to do this for a while. But
this is probably one of the greatest hitters that were
getting a chance to see. I'm not a big fan
of saying, hey, he's had a year or two or
three they're superstars, because I mean the pool Holtzes and
the Manny ramirez Is and the Cabreras like they did
it long time, long, ten year, thirteen hundred. But I'll
tell you I've never seen anything like it. His discipline
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the plate when he kind of you to see him
lok in. He doesn't swing a whole lot of balls,
and he's violent early in the count.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
But if I said you can have big Poppy at
the plate or Otani at the plate, wow wow.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
A big Poppy was probably the greatest postseason big RBI
guy in the history of baseball. My opinion, I'm taking
Poppy that he was a gangster.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Great to talk to you as always, and thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You too, DP, Thank you, Kevin Mala.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
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Speaker 3 (23:55):
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former offensive lineman, Look what you walked into.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
I think it's harder to tap the same foot twice,
I agree, than to get two feet down. So I mean,
technically you should allow that because it is definitely harder
to do. It was stunning to watch that to see
the left foot never hit the ground when it had
room to hit the ground.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, but it says both feet, so that's where the
language is there, and it's pretty simple. So no touchdown there. Okay,
who had a worst week? Anthony Richardson or the Bears
defensive back Tyreek Stevenson.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
Well, I mean Anthony Richardson has been having a rough year,
so I mean it's kind of becoming a cumulative effect
on what change Psychen is going to do. I'm actually
calling that game them in Minnesota this Sunday night for
Westwood One and you know, Shane Stichen certainly is not
given a vote of confidence as Anthony Richardson as the starter.
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But that's been cumulative the mistakes that were made in
the Bears game, and not just Tyreek Stevenson. I mean
it was the optics were horrible of him, you know,
getting on the crowd, but then to physically make the
mistakes they made at the end of the play, you
box out, you have a man and you box out,
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and you have somebody who's behind everybody else. That's that's
a given, but it's like all is forgotten. When the
ball is in the air, everybody jumps. There's supposed to
be one jumper on the offense. It was zach Ertz
and one jumper on the defense and the rest are
boxing out. The crazy thing is dan On that is
the pass rush. Now normally you send two or three guys,
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they had a fourth. Is this is coaching? Because I
don't imagine TJ. Edwards on his own said I'm going
to spy a quarterback fifty five yards away from the
end zone, like he can affect the play if he runs.
That was one of the most ridiculous optics things I've
ever seen. He wasn't rushing, and I wish I could
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remember the team. There was another team that had a
hail Mary and the opposing team rushed for but they
overloaded the defensive left side the offensive right side, so
the quarterback couldn't roll right and make it an easier throw.
They made the quarterback go left, so it's harder to
build up to throw the long pass to have a
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spy's And that's coaching because that player had to be
told to do that.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
That was mind boggling.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, I didn't understand it. You're a no man's land
because he's not running. But you know the play before
that mike where they just gave them, They gave them
a chance to be in hail mary range.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
So this is a combination.
Speaker 11 (27:00):
That's why it's tough to just point to one person,
whether it's a player or coach and say bad play.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I mean this was players and coach.
Speaker 11 (27:09):
Bad execution on the jump ball, bad coaching on having
a player spy for there's no need to spy, and
having them play off that much and let them get
into hail mary situation by giving up that much space.
Normally you have guys short shorter on the sidelines. To
protect the odd about to not make it an easy
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pass in guys deep. So there's a lot of look
at Tyreek Stevenson is going to catch the brunt of
this because of his antics before the play. But there's
a whole lot of looking in the mirror to go
around on that series.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Do you remember a player coming in the huddle and saying,
I'm tired, I got to come out.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
There has now listen when And I don't want to
make this generational, but we see kind of generational in
basketball where load management has taken over. And I get
it from the analytics and and the trainers in that
where back again in my day, guys played eighty two
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games where it certainly can be done. I mean, nobody
ever tapped out, no, I mean you see, I mean
it's almost a given if a player runs a deep
route that they're off the field on the next play,
and it just it's just kind of an understood thing.
You just see more helmet tapping today in the college
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and pro game than you saw back in years past
that that was a mistake. And even heard Ryan Kelly
the center kind of alluding to you know, he was
talked to about it. It's not a good look, and
it's not a good look at all.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Are the Steelers are threatening team?
Speaker 11 (28:52):
I'll tell you what Russell Wilson, you know, there was
a big question on would he recapture some of the
Seattle days or where to be more of the Denver days.
They scored thirty seven points against the Jets and what
twenty eight, twenty six, twenty eight against the Giants, So
we know they can run the ball. Najia Harris had
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three straight games over one hundred yards. We know they
can play good defense. So they' given up against the
run a little bit on the Giants, but they can
play good defense. And now they have a passing game,
and they have a passing game that goes downfield, and
I don't mean the hail Mary's that Russell throws and
really kind of loops and gives your guy, you know,
a sixty to forty chance rather than a fifty to
fifty chance. He throws a nice deep ball. He's always
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been the best deep ball thrower in the league. So
they have because you're right, we keep asking who's the
threat to Kansas City? Was at Baltimore and they have
a bad loss to Cleveland, Is it Buffalo still certainly
could be Buffalo still certainly could be Baltimore. But you
have to give Pittsburgh the benefit of the doubt of
getting into the conversation.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Your NFL MVP halfway point.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Is Wow, boy, is it? I mean? Is it? Is it?
Josh Allen? Is it? I mean? For me, I would
have what's that? For me?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It is?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (30:09):
I would tell and I would have said if they
had won the game, I would say Lamar Jackson again
for a third, I mean, because he was having a
hell of a year, Derek Derek Henry's been a big
help to that offense. That's helped Lamar as well, but
that loss kind of her. I would say Josh Allen
and or Lamar.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
But it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I look at the odds DraftKings has Mahomes as the
second favorite, So Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are tied and
then it's Patrick Mahomes And I think that's just Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
The threat of Mahomes, yes.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Because he He's got more interceptions than he does touchdowns.
Nobody else has the threat like Patrick Mahomes does.
Speaker 11 (30:51):
Without without question, you say Pat Mahomes and you say, oh,
they have a chance even though, remember going into the season,
he was mad last season even though they won the
Super Bowl because the offense was outplayed by the defense.
And he didn't like that because this offense has been
historic a couple of years before that and they just
can't get back to that for whatever reason. Now you
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had the injuries this year with Pacheco at running back
and obviously the receiver room, but the offense is still
lagging behind the defense, and that doesn't make Mahomes happy.
But it's still it's Patrick Mahomes, so he can pull
some miracle play.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Talking to Mike Golick, co host of Gojo and Golick
on DraftKings Network, when is it an appropriate time to
talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
Well, I mean, I think it's always appropriate time to
talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
They're like the Yankees. They're like Notre Dame.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
It's like whether they're good or bad, they're always talked about. Listen, Dan,
I listen, and I'm not the only one. But I
can only speak for myself. I thought before the season
that they were going to take a step back. They
did nothing to help their running game, nothing at all.
Their old line became somewhat young with the center and
left tackle, So I thought, who are they going to
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throw the ball to? But Ceedee lambwet a monster year
last year, and their defense they didn't do anything to
help against the run. I mean, they're in a position
now than losing Lawrence and Parson certainly hurt them, but
they become in a position where they have to scheme
to stop a run, whether it's run blitz, load the box,
and they already load the box the third most in
the league, and still can't stop the run. So they
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have a personnel issue, which goes to Jerry Jones, which
goes to Steven Jones. So yeah, I mean, it's it's
absolutely fine to talk about the Cowboys and the step
back they've taken.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
But if we know they're not going to be good,
it's like the Jets. At what point are we just
talking about the Jets because you're going to get clicks
with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We know they're not doing anything. It's it's been a debacle.
Speaker 11 (32:55):
It's a it's a quite honestly, it's a waste of
time other than you're going to get clicked. But to
talk about the Jets in any meaningful way, or to
talk about Dallas in any meaningful way. They'll have a
game here or there, but they're not going to do anything.
They're not going to be a threat. I know we're
basically coming up to half the year, but they've shown
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nobody's walking in the door to help outside of a trade.
I mean, you got Devonte Adams that didn't help. Firing
Robert Salad didn't help. Changing the play caller didn't help.
And the Cowboys just don't have the personnel to help.
And nothing's No one's coming off the couch. You know,
nobody's Joe flaccoing this thing to save a season. It's
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just not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I wonder.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
There's teams that need things that the trade deadline, but
we tend to go, boy, that guy could be traded,
or that guy could be traded, and then they're not traded.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Do you see any name or names that you think
will be traded?
Speaker 11 (33:59):
Not any big name you know we got listen, you
know this. You've been doing this longer than I've been
doing this. Talking about the NFL trade deadline was a
blip on the radar. You said, oh, here's the date,
here's the time, and then wait for nothing to happen.
But all of a sudden, one year, Christian McCaffery gets traded.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
TJ.
Speaker 11 (34:16):
Hockkinson gets traded, and they both have our a huge
input to their new teams San Francisco and Minnesota, respectively,
So all of a sudden, it's like, well, wait a minute,
a guy can come in and kind of change the
landscape a little bit. The big names talked about this
year have been Max Crosby and Miles Garrett, right because
you know, Detroit needs a pass rusher. I thought they
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were going to go after a Son Reddick, but the Jets.
I mean, listen, the Jets already pushed all their chips
in the middle of the table. They might as well
continue to do it. But I thought the Jets were
going to trade a Son Reddick, and I thought Detroit
would be a landing spot. But Max Crosby and Miles
Garrett aren't going to get traded. You had the receivers
that got traded in Cooper and DeVante Adams, which certainly
(34:57):
can Cooper certainly can help in Buffalo. Like I said,
the Jets are just are too far gone in this
so I think there'll be some minor trades like there
have been, but I don't think any major names are
going to go, especially on the defensive pass rush side.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Would you wear a guardian helmet if you were playing?
Speaker 11 (35:17):
I probably wouldn't, but I don't have a problem with
guys that do. I'm amazed at some people that say, oh,
this looks weird or looks them So what I mean?
So what if a guy thinks that's going to protect them?
And I know the information is still out there on
just how much it protects. But if somebody wants to
wear that for the physical protection and just the mental
(35:37):
side of it of feeling better, so what I mean,
more power to them. I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
But if I had, you know, you know, documented a
number of concussions, I think I maybe have had them,
but they weren't documented. Again, don't know.
Speaker 11 (35:54):
Maybe if I had a number of them and more
prevalent today than it was when I played, that may
I would be more aware of it today and wear one.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
But I have zero issue with players wearing them.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
We don't talk about lineman with concussions the way we
do other positions, and linemen are engaged with every single play.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Why is that.
Speaker 11 (36:14):
There is a there's a new helmet coming out. I
think it's already out for linemen, which protrudes in the
forehead area and the talk of it being lineman because
lineman's are in a hit every single play, but it's not.
It's not a for lack of a better term, a
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car wreck hit. You know, like a dB or linebacker,
you know where they're space coming up their filling space
on a wide receiver or a running back who got
to the second or third level, and there's that major collision.
Offensive defensive linemen hit within three feet of one another,
you know, and then they'll use their hands more than
their head. Their heads will still collide. And when you
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hit a running back on a running play, the running
back normally isn't at full speed. So while there's actually
continuously hitting the head of every play, it's not as
as speed driven impact as the more space in between
the hitters.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Is what's that feeling like when you're under the pile
and you can't get up and you got three hundred
pound guys who are on top of you, Maybe you
can't breathe, Maybe there's extracurriculars like what's that feeling like?
Speaker 11 (37:27):
Well, I was normally part of the extracurriculars, or try
and get the ball, trying to bend some fingers or
twist some hands. And I was normally one of those
three hundred pounders laying on somebody smaller, trying to take
the air out of them, trying to when you're pushed
up off of them, trying to have your forearm maybe
push on their neck or their lower back. But luck
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that usually only happens and they scrum for the football.
And if a small guy gets caught on the bottom,
that could be it could be a problem. But for
bigger guys, it's not really that big of an issue.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
There's no conversation that goes on.
Speaker 11 (38:03):
I think my brother Bob, when he was a nose
tackle on Cleveland, used to talk about a conversation he
would have with Boomer asiasin when there were fumbles and
they were in the bottom of a scrum. They would
they would chat about something. I don't think they were
often fond or good conversations. There were probably a lot
of swear words involved, but yeah, there's there's some bad
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things that go on in those pile ups.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Do you hold any grudges?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
No?
Speaker 11 (38:33):
Oh no, I just like I just like if there's
a sideline blow up on the same team of players
or coaches. I don't put anything in on game day
because tensions are so high, emotions run so high.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Nobody chief shotted you that you still hold a grudge
against them.
Speaker 11 (38:50):
No, Kevin Gogan, we got in the fight. He was
with the Cowboys, I was with the Eagles. He punched
me in that he had a little six inch Mike
Tyson jab on me in a in a fight that
didn't get seen by the referees, and.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
He exploded my lip.
Speaker 11 (39:02):
I mean I had blood on the inside of my
face mask on my face. I didn't even realize it
until I got off the field. But hey, it was
we were both squared off. It was fair. I mean
I I wasn't a great player, dan so I was
a line stepper at times, so I unfortunately fell into
the cat And now I never went after anybody's knees
or anything like that, But.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
No, I never.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
My My fights were kind of straight up, squared up,
face to face.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
So if you saw Kevin Gogan, just take how's the family,
Everything's going?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Yeah, I'd relive the.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Day six seven thirty.
Speaker 11 (39:38):
So I'd look up at him like I did on
the field and say, dude, that was a great punch.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
That was he twisted my face mask and caught me
right in the tin. But you got to give credit
where credit's due.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Good to talk to you, Mike, my best of the family,
Thanks for joining us. That's Mike Golick, co host of
Gojo and Golick on DraftKings Network.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's our one this program. Come on in,
stay awhile glad to have you on board. A lot
to recap football from last night, or at least a
reasonable facsimile. Look out for the Steelers. They're now six
and two, no quarterback controversy. They rough up the Giants,
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the Dodgers, they beat the Yankees. They go up three
games to none, and Freddie Freeman has done it again.
Freddie Freeman the third player in baseball history to homer
in each of his first three games of a World Series.
Barry Bonds was the last to do it in two
thousand and two. So if you're curious about the weather
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in the Bronx, it's probably going to be the same
way it was last night. And you know, you start
to look at the numbers of teams that go up
three to zero in the World Series the odds of
somebody coming back. So teams that fall behind three in
the World Series are three and twenty one all time.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
In Game four.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
The last nine teams that fell behind O three or
three to oh in the World Series have lost. The
last time a team came back to win Game four
after losing the first three the Cincinnati Reds in nineteen
seventy Who now steat of a.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Day, Stata a day, Statuta day, scant outa day.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
This is the.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:30):
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and first pitch tonight, Dodgers at the Yankees for Game four. Now,
(02:11):
I'm not saying it's over over, because I was there
in four when everybody thought it was over over, and
of course we know how that played out. Now, it's
just a coincidence maybe that they are playing that Netflix
documentary on the four Comeback.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
In fact, one of the stars of that documentary, Kevin Malar,
will join us a little bit later on. He's the
one who gave us Cowboy up with those four Red Sox.
Dave Roberts, the Dodger manager, with an interesting question after
last night's win.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
You're one of the few people on earth who know
what it's like to come back from a three to
zero deficit.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Don't talk about wrong guy way too early.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
What do you remember about your mindset going into that,
and what maybe did you learn from that that you
can take into it now that you're on the other side.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
I don't want to.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
Divulge any secrets, but from the other side, I just
think that we have got to stay focused, stay urgent.
I think offensively, to be quite honest, we left a
lot of runs out there tonight, still found a way
to win a ballgame, and there's just got to be urgency.
I just don't want to let these guys up for air.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And that's a great point to make because it helps
that they've jumped out on top. When Freddie Freeman hits
a home run on a one to two pitch and
I'm thinking Wow, it gives you such an advantage. And
Walker Bueller the way he pitched now, I go back
to when he was like sixteen and four, he was
top five cy young. Then he had a couple of
Tommy Johns. But he said, look, I almost need to
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have things mentally be different for me to get up
for a game like this. He said, you know, I
don't like admitting this, but that's what it is. You
get out there, you get caught up in it, your
stake to you know, to lead and Freddie Freeman, you know,
how about the Yankees. Don't throw the same pitch to
Freddie Freeman because it feels like that inside part of
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the plate he's going to hit a home run. John
Smold said, it like everything I'm gonna throw is away, away, away.
He can go to first base if he wants. He's
not going anywhere with a bad ankle. Let him go
to first base. I don't want him trotting around the bases.
But they're throwing the same pitch or at least the
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same location, and he's made them pay. So that's coming
up tonight, first pitch at eight point eight Eastern with
the Dodgers trying to close out the Yankees. It feels
like there's two fan bases rooting for a sweep. Now,
Baseball fans, I would love to see this go six
or seven. The Dodger fans are rooting for a sweep,
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and the other fan base, the Red Sox, are rooting
for a sweep. They would love nothing better to see
the Yankees swept. And I, of course was there as
a fan when the Cincinnati Reds swept the Yankees four
to zero in the World Series in nineteen seventy six.
I'm not rooting for a sweep because I want baseball
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like baseball got its matchup. Baseball had a great year.
I'd love to have more drama. But if you're a
Dodger fan, hey, let's just win. Let's just win. You know,
no COVID Championship, none of that. This is a true
we won. We were the best team. I didn't. You know,
it's weird. I didn't feel like we had a great
team in baseball this year. Nobody's winning one hundred games,
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but the Dodgers figuring out how to use their pitching staff.
Dave Roberts has done a wonderful job. In fact, if
you said World Series MVP Freddie Freeman is your World
Series MVP. Dave Roberts would be my second choice. I
think he's done a wonderful job in the postseason. He's
figured out who to use when to use them, and
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you're getting your starters. If your starter goes into the
sixth inning, that's like a complete game now, and what
a benefit to be able to help out your bullpen.
The Yankees still trying to figure out, you know, who
they're using, how they're using them. And then you got
Aaron Boone who's always relying on analytics. Eight seven seven
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at DP show. We'll talk about the Steelers. They beat
the Giants. They're now six and two. We'll look at
their schedule. Mike Golick, Big Michae will join us a
little bit later on as well.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Seaton Poll. Question from our one is going to be.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Oh, we got many many options.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Okay, how about we start with this one foot tap
twice should be old wow, a catch or impressive, but
ultimately nothing. We're going to dive into this now. I
don't know, we can save it for later. You want
to hold you know what gold.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Let me let me hold onto this until next segment,
because I want Paula to get me the rule, the
wording on this, the word salad on this, because I
would thought initially two feet in bounds is two feet
I didn't know if you had to have a right
foot and a left foot in I went Pauli to
get to the official rule book there working at it. Okay, yeah, see,
(07:13):
how about a sweep in the World Series. Is incredible
for the Dodgers or embarrassing for the Yankees?
Speaker 9 (07:19):
Oh? Wow?
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Can it be both?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Of course it can be both, But the fun is
making you pick one.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I would say embarrassing for the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Why doesn't it just show how dominant the Dodgers are.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, you have Soto who may get a six hundred
million dollar contract. You got Judge and Stanton who have
contracts over three hundred million. You got Garrett Cole who
has two hundred and fifty million dollar contract. That would
be embarrassing if you got swept. But you know, as
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we talked about yesterday, if if I take the big
three out of the Yankee lineup, and by that I
do mean Judge, Soto and Stanton, who else do they have?
We talked about this during the season. I thought it
was a poorly orchestrated lineup and it just felt like
they were top heavy with Wow, look at those guys.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's the other guys that help you win.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Every World Series that I can remember, it's always who's
that guy? Like I always think of Mark Lemke with
the Braves. He batted like four thirty two, and you're going,
Lemmer is the best player out there. Sometimes it's that
guy that you don't expect because you're so focused on
the other guys. Well, you don't have to worry about
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With the Yankees so far, they haven't had that guy
who stepped up from the eight or nine to hole.
And that's the difference. The Dodgers have people throughout the lineup.
It's a better balanced lineup, and they have contributed. I
think the general consensus was the Yankees had the pitching edge,
but the Dodgers had the best or lineup. The Dodgers
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have both so far through three games. What else do
you have, Seaton.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Who's having a better week? Freddy Freeman or the field?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, oh, okay, Can I think of anybody other than
Freddie Freeman on Earth who's had a better seven days.
Speaker 10 (09:22):
Wow, Paul I had a name, but even just saying
it's not even that close. Like Jameis Winston had a
really nice week now, but no, we think of anybody
that's a regular season game and he threw it. He
had two interceptions that they dropped.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yes, Jane Daniel might have to play of the Year
in the NFL. He's had a pretty good week.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, he had one play.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Which is really more luck than anything.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Oh, that's sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, Freddie Freeman showed talent.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
There that was armed talent that didn't that Dane showed.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Is there is there a somebody out of sports who's
had a better seven days than Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Like some billionaire who acquired at oil company.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Or no, because then there's still a billionaire. It didn't
change their life. Yes, Mark our boy had hollow. Ben
Carol had fifty last night from My Orlando Magic. He
had thirty seven in the first half, and then all
of a sudden, I realized Klay Thompson had thirty three
and a quarter one time.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
How about that, Todd, you got a nominee here.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I like Jamis Winston.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I know I wouldn't put him ahead of Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 11 (10:34):
But that's a big deal of Brown's taking down the
Ravens with a guy that was like a third string quarter.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Nobody cares a little bit of love. That's nobody cares
about Jameis winsday.
Speaker 9 (10:44):
Gigantic win for the Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
No, if you're the Browns, I don't think you want
gigantic wins. I think you want, you know, disastrous losses. Here,
Let's just you know, get a draft pick. Wait, are
their draft picks still going to Houston or have they
given up all their draft pitch?
Speaker 10 (11:02):
So Freeman's got it over everyone on her.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I think everybody on earth so far.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I can't think of another person in the world who's
having a good week.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well better week, because I'm having a good week. I
recovered from serious shoulder surgery. I'm here, I mean good
spirits and uh, you know, half the audience didn't think
I'd be here. So it's sort of a Freddie Freeman
kind of performance here, not necessarily completely healthy, limping to
the microphone just to be able to say I'm the
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luckiest man on the face of the earth.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yes, I think your.
Speaker 11 (11:36):
Neck and neck with Freddy froman you're healing quickly and
you dropped a bomb on us yesterday about the families.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Oh that's right, you know, going to be a grandfather again.
So yeah, I've had a Freddie Freeman like right there. Yeah,
Freddie Freeman should hold.
Speaker 9 (11:50):
Your microphone up the way Freddie did with the scepter
with the bat to hold the microan.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I know that is a great pose though, really that
that's almost like a statu pose. Yes, if you were
going to do a Freddie Freeman statue, I would have
him where the bat is up like a scepter. I
did watch the Miami Heat pre game last night and
it was about Dwayne Wade, and Dwayne Wade was on
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with our buddy Jason Jackson, and they're talking about the
statue and Dwayne says, a statue doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
To look like you.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, I think they made it worse because they're
trying to go, you know, a it's just a statue.
It doesn't look like Dwayne Wade. But they're showing all
these wonderful plays. And then he's up there pre game
and he's talking about the statue and you're just going.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That doesn't look like you. That doesn't look like it.
Speaker 10 (12:49):
Yes, Pauline is Freddie Freeman's week like positive, similar to
the statue makers negative.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
We don't know his name.
Speaker 10 (12:59):
I didn't give it out. Found the name of the
two people who made the statue, but I did not
give it out yet.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I saw the process.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I saw the Miami Heat pregame show Man, you have
a great life, Dan, You're right, I do. But you know,
he's Dwayne Wade's there while they're making the statue. I
don't know if anybody at any point go.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It doesn't look anything like him.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
Did Dwayne bring up like a buddy with him, like
they went with the wrong guy.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
No, I don't think they went, oh you're Dwayne Wade.
Oh cow wait, Tommy, we thought you were Dwayne Wade. Yes,
I do like that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The people who built it were like, yeah, well, no
one in the world could have done better, so whatever, Yeah, like.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Yeah, best anybody could do. Sorry, this is it. This
is the best it can be done.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
But it makes me wonder about all these statues, you know,
centuries ago, like did they capture like, did did David
really look like that?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Did you know? Did did he say after the fact.
I don't know. I think I'm a little larger than that.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
It was called in the room. Yeah, clearly called in
that let's go.
Speaker 11 (14:10):
Yes, And they didn't have gyms and workout equipment like
that to get such abs.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I don't know. Back in centuries ago, they.
Speaker 10 (14:17):
Carried their stuff to their homes, Like when they went
to get beef, they didn't have a shopping cart. They
carried it to their homes.
Speaker 11 (14:22):
That's pretty impressive for centuries ago and not tough to
yoked up gym.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I don't know when abs became a big deal. And
I'm being serious here, like it's almost like overnight where
people had to have ass you.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
See, I disagree, I bet you. Before fast food and
stuff like this, back in the Roman days, everyone was.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Shredfast, but nobody said, hey, check out Dave's abs. They
they just that's how you looked. Back then, it became
like abs became something. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
They would have modeled it after real humans, like when
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But they didn't go, hey are you doing your crunches today, David?
But now it's like, hey want to be shredded? Like
you can even have cosmetic surgery for your abs?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
ABS? Yes, yeah, absolutely, thank you, Tom.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I like that.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
No, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That was bad.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, but abs became a big deal for some reason. Yes, Marvin, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Saw our friend Drake.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Drake's got abs.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
He's got now he does?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, I was like, oh, ripped. Yeah, it became a
big deal.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
Hold on, let me google that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah he does, he does.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
He has apps.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
Hold is Drake like thirty eight thirty nine?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, but you can have abs. Yeah, it's not it.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's just if you really want to have them, you
just focus on that area. I just I don't remember
it being a big deal when I was growing up.
Have your shirt off. Nobody goes, where's your abs? They
were like, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Or your cut? Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I don't know how we got started on that, but uh,
you know, that's typical of the show.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:12):
Kevin Malaw MLB network analyst co host of Intentional Talk
and you can see him with Ryan Dempster. That'll be
every day at five Eastern during the World Series and
he of course won the World Series Championship with the
Red Sox back in four. Kevin, great to talk to
you again. Looking at this matchup. When the World Series started,
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I thought the Yankee starting pitching was going to be
a big advantage. That has not been the case. Why
do you think that is? Do you agree?
Speaker 9 (16:46):
Yeah, it's funny you could have flipped a coin. I
don't think the Yankees had the advantage going in. I
think everybody was so excited to see the series and
see who's gonna like the layoff or whatever. The problem is.
You need the six, seven, eight nine guys. It's like
every postseason to step up. And you have to agree
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that Tommy Edmond and Andrew Freeman's pickup of that young
man has really been a big difference for this organization,
aside from Freddy Freeman just being Freddy Freeman.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
John Shombi, who's calling the game for ESPN Radio, said yesterday,
if you take out the top three hitters for the
Yankees and top three for the Dodgers, that's the difference.
That's the depth that you're talking about that they can
make up for these other players if they're not playing well.
The Yankee lineup can't do that. How do you get
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Aaron judge going.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
It's not a matter of how you get it. It's
a hard game. He's struggling at the wrong time, Danny.
I mean that's the problem, right. It's like me and
you going to playing Augusta. We're all excited, and then
your golf game sucks that day. You're like, can it
suck at the home course with my buddies. He's in
a spot right now, and you saw him. He had
better at bats like he saw him that first back.
He missed that fastball. He's just misnt and he was
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able to take a couple breaking balls. He knows the
game plan, he knows the hard end. And then they
threw five so offt away. It's going slower, and it's
so hard when you are trying to get that big, huge,
four hundred and fifty foot home run. A line drive
base at right Bilby would be beneficial for him, but
it's so hard in the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Buddy, how do you pitch to Freddie Freeman?
Speaker 9 (18:25):
I stopped throwing cutters inside, I stopped throwing fastballs inside.
I stopped playing the whole trick him inside. I would
make him try to beat me away. I know there's
a short portion in right field and Yankee Stadium. Freddie
Freeman is so quick inside. And you know what, and
I've always said this, I've said this all year. I
think he's the best hitter in baseball. His approach is
left center, not trying to hit a home run. Give
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me sixty doubles and twenty five homers.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It feels like all of his home runs are off
the same pitch, or at least in the same location.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
I mean that's where he goes right, short and quick
to the baseball and he just snaps it. But he finished.
It's just high. He's got great drills. His approach. I love.
I have a high school kid that looks like him,
like his Torso goes up to his basically pecks, I
mean his legs, his pecks, they're Torso's about that big.
And it's funny because he sits gap to gap. And
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if you notice, most hitters don't do that. They're looking
for twenty five to thirty five great swings a year
in juke twelve, strike out one hundred and eighty. Not
Freddie Freeman. So I appreciate his game plan. Even during
the shift. Now we've stopped the shift, he's still a
three hundred.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Hitter Kevin Malar, MLB network analyst, co host of Intentional Talk,
and of course, won the World Series with the Red
Sox back in four. All right, you got them to
Cowboy up back in four? What's your pep talk to
the Yankees pre game tonight?
Speaker 9 (19:49):
The great news for the Yankees About seven days ago,
Netflix came out with a show called The Comeback. I'll
tell you right now, They're not a team that can't
do it. Would it shock you? It's not an under
dog like team. They just need to start with a
game tonight. Or this could be a sweep.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What episode of the four part episodes with Netflix would
you show to the Yankees prior to tonight's game?
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Probably somewhere in the episode two. If I was you know,
and I don't know if this hap or not, but
I have their jeter on site, I would have two
or three dudes, whether it's whoever that is on your team.
But if I'm Booney, I bring in DJ and I say, hey, dude,
give me five minutes with these guys. Let's just play baseball.
Let's play attention to details. We have to run the
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bases better, we have to play baseball better. We have
to block balls. But we have to focus every pitch,
one thing about there Jeter in the big stage, attention
to details, like it's like a Nick Saban football team.
You're not going to have forty seven holding calls or
you're taking out of the game. My thing is just
stay with me during the seven oh eight start in
snake time eight o eight Eastern time?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Is Jeter allowed to do that since he's working for
I mean, he's working the game. Do you think his
bosses would have a problem if.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
He want would.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I think is just the look isn't good?
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Well, no one knows. You don't have to know.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You're gonna know after tonight's game if they win, they're
going to be like, man, we got this great pep
talk from Cheeter. Captain came in and gave us a
great pep talk.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Here, are there any more secrets in this game? Anymore?
In this world society? Can we put our phones away?
Do we have to tax and tweet Instagram that I'm
with the gap of no Danny, I'm talking about with
nobody knowing. I need you here for five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Wait wait, wait, you were back in four there was
no social media or we would have known everything about
you guys doing shots before the game. We would have
known about what was the naked pull ups by Johnny Damon.
We would have known all of that stuff.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
That's why you got to have that boys Club height
Knitch group, and you can talk about twenty years later.
But my point is, I just think that the Yankees
have to they have to focus on tension of details,
the home runs. They gotta hit home runs. They that's
how they score runs. You can't beat somebody or not,
and you gotta get on base. I mean, they just
need the bottom of the lineup like Chas. They have
not hit with running score position. So you can tip
your hats a doughters or you can say that they're struggling.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
The Otawi situation. Did you see anything that he was
favoring his shoulder last night at the play.
Speaker 9 (22:21):
I saw his swings look good. You can tell like
the swings and misses kind of hurt. The jogging hurts.
He got to trot around the basis with Freddie Freeman's
home run, which is good news. It was alarming after
he grounded out when he ran back and he was
kind of like this, But I'll tell you right now,
he's a tough guy. I mean, he wants to be
out there, and just his presence. What do you see
twenty some of more pitches last night, whether he gets
a hit or not, he's three two, he's three two,
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he's three two, and their stress.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
If the season ends tonight, how are we going to
remember Otani this year?
Speaker 9 (22:52):
Probably he'll have to do this for a while. But
this is probably one of the greatest hitters that were
getting a chance to see. I'm not a big fan
of saying, hey, he's had a year or two or
three they're superstars, because I mean the pool Holtzes and
the Manny ramirez Is and the Cabreras like they did
it long time, long, ten year, thirteen hundred. But I'll
tell you I've never seen anything like it. His discipline
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the plate when he kind of you to see him
lok in. He doesn't swing a whole lot of balls,
and he's violent early in the count.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
But if I said you can have big Poppy at
the plate or Otani at the plate, wow wow.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
A big Poppy was probably the greatest postseason big RBI
guy in the history of baseball. My opinion, I'm taking
Poppy that he was a gangster.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Great to talk to you as always, and thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You too, DP, Thank you, Kevin Mala.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
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Speaker 3 (23:55):
Mike Golick, co host of Gojo and Golic on DraftKings Network,
former offensive lineman, Look what you walked into.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
I think it's harder to tap the same foot twice,
I agree, than to get two feet down. So I mean,
technically you should allow that because it is definitely harder
to do. It was stunning to watch that to see
the left foot never hit the ground when it had
room to hit the ground.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, but it says both feet, so that's where the
language is there, and it's pretty simple. So no touchdown there. Okay,
who had a worst week? Anthony Richardson or the Bears
defensive back Tyreek Stevenson.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
Well, I mean Anthony Richardson has been having a rough year,
so I mean it's kind of becoming a cumulative effect
on what change Psychen is going to do. I'm actually
calling that game them in Minnesota this Sunday night for
Westwood One and you know, Shane Stichen certainly is not
given a vote of confidence as Anthony Richardson as the starter.
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But that's been cumulative the mistakes that were made in
the Bears game, and not just Tyreek Stevenson. I mean
it was the optics were horrible of him, you know,
getting on the crowd, but then to physically make the
mistakes they made at the end of the play, you
box out, you have a man and you box out,
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and you have somebody who's behind everybody else. That's that's
a given, but it's like all is forgotten. When the
ball is in the air, everybody jumps. There's supposed to
be one jumper on the offense. It was zach Ertz
and one jumper on the defense and the rest are
boxing out. The crazy thing is dan On that is
the pass rush. Now normally you send two or three guys,
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they had a fourth. Is this is coaching? Because I
don't imagine TJ. Edwards on his own said I'm going
to spy a quarterback fifty five yards away from the
end zone, like he can affect the play if he runs.
That was one of the most ridiculous optics things I've
ever seen. He wasn't rushing, and I wish I could
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remember the team. There was another team that had a
hail Mary and the opposing team rushed for but they
overloaded the defensive left side the offensive right side, so
the quarterback couldn't roll right and make it an easier throw.
They made the quarterback go left, so it's harder to
build up to throw the long pass to have a
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spy's And that's coaching because that player had to be
told to do that.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
That was mind boggling.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, I didn't understand it. You're a no man's land
because he's not running. But you know the play before
that mike where they just gave them, They gave them
a chance to be in hail mary range.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
So this is a combination.
Speaker 11 (27:00):
That's why it's tough to just point to one person,
whether it's a player or coach and say bad play.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I mean this was players and coach.
Speaker 11 (27:09):
Bad execution on the jump ball, bad coaching on having
a player spy for there's no need to spy, and
having them play off that much and let them get
into hail mary situation by giving up that much space.
Normally you have guys short shorter on the sidelines. To
protect the odd about to not make it an easy
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pass in guys deep. So there's a lot of look
at Tyreek Stevenson is going to catch the brunt of
this because of his antics before the play. But there's
a whole lot of looking in the mirror to go
around on that series.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Do you remember a player coming in the huddle and saying,
I'm tired, I got to come out.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
There has now listen when And I don't want to
make this generational, but we see kind of generational in
basketball where load management has taken over. And I get
it from the analytics and and the trainers in that
where back again in my day, guys played eighty two
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games where it certainly can be done. I mean, nobody
ever tapped out, no, I mean you see, I mean
it's almost a given if a player runs a deep
route that they're off the field on the next play,
and it just it's just kind of an understood thing.
You just see more helmet tapping today in the college
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and pro game than you saw back in years past
that that was a mistake. And even heard Ryan Kelly
the center kind of alluding to you know, he was
talked to about it. It's not a good look, and
it's not a good look at all.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Are the Steelers are threatening team?
Speaker 11 (28:52):
I'll tell you what Russell Wilson, you know, there was
a big question on would he recapture some of the
Seattle days or where to be more of the Denver days.
They scored thirty seven points against the Jets and what
twenty eight, twenty six, twenty eight against the Giants, So
we know they can run the ball. Najia Harris had
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three straight games over one hundred yards. We know they
can play good defense. So they' given up against the
run a little bit on the Giants, but they can
play good defense. And now they have a passing game,
and they have a passing game that goes downfield, and
I don't mean the hail Mary's that Russell throws and
really kind of loops and gives your guy, you know,
a sixty to forty chance rather than a fifty to
fifty chance. He throws a nice deep ball. He's always
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been the best deep ball thrower in the league. So
they have because you're right, we keep asking who's the
threat to Kansas City? Was at Baltimore and they have
a bad loss to Cleveland, Is it Buffalo still certainly
could be Buffalo still certainly could be Baltimore. But you
have to give Pittsburgh the benefit of the doubt of
getting into the conversation.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Your NFL MVP halfway point.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Is Wow, boy, is it? I mean? Is it? Is it?
Josh Allen? Is it? I mean? For me, I would
have what's that? For me?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It is?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (30:09):
I would tell and I would have said if they
had won the game, I would say Lamar Jackson again
for a third, I mean, because he was having a
hell of a year, Derek Derek Henry's been a big
help to that offense. That's helped Lamar as well, but
that loss kind of her. I would say Josh Allen
and or Lamar.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
But it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I look at the odds DraftKings has Mahomes as the
second favorite, So Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are tied and
then it's Patrick Mahomes And I think that's just Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
The threat of Mahomes, yes.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Because he He's got more interceptions than he does touchdowns.
Nobody else has the threat like Patrick Mahomes does.
Speaker 11 (30:51):
Without without question, you say Pat Mahomes and you say, oh,
they have a chance even though, remember going into the season,
he was mad last season even though they won the
Super Bowl because the offense was outplayed by the defense.
And he didn't like that because this offense has been
historic a couple of years before that and they just
can't get back to that for whatever reason. Now you
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had the injuries this year with Pacheco at running back
and obviously the receiver room, but the offense is still
lagging behind the defense, and that doesn't make Mahomes happy.
But it's still it's Patrick Mahomes, so he can pull
some miracle play.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Talking to Mike Golick, co host of Gojo and Golick
on DraftKings Network, when is it an appropriate time to
talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
Well, I mean, I think it's always appropriate time to
talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
They're like the Yankees. They're like Notre Dame.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
It's like whether they're good or bad, they're always talked about. Listen, Dan,
I listen, and I'm not the only one. But I
can only speak for myself. I thought before the season
that they were going to take a step back. They
did nothing to help their running game, nothing at all.
Their old line became somewhat young with the center and
left tackle, So I thought, who are they going to
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throw the ball to? But Ceedee lambwet a monster year
last year, and their defense they didn't do anything to
help against the run. I mean, they're in a position
now than losing Lawrence and Parson certainly hurt them, but
they become in a position where they have to scheme
to stop a run, whether it's run blitz, load the box,
and they already load the box the third most in
the league, and still can't stop the run. So they
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have a personnel issue, which goes to Jerry Jones, which
goes to Steven Jones. So yeah, I mean, it's it's
absolutely fine to talk about the Cowboys and the step
back they've taken.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
But if we know they're not going to be good,
it's like the Jets. At what point are we just
talking about the Jets because you're going to get clicks
with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
We know they're not doing anything. It's it's been a debacle.
Speaker 11 (32:55):
It's a it's a quite honestly, it's a waste of
time other than you're going to get clicked. But to
talk about the Jets in any meaningful way, or to
talk about Dallas in any meaningful way. They'll have a
game here or there, but they're not going to do anything.
They're not going to be a threat. I know we're
basically coming up to half the year, but they've shown
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nobody's walking in the door to help outside of a trade.
I mean, you got Devonte Adams that didn't help. Firing
Robert Salad didn't help. Changing the play caller didn't help.
And the Cowboys just don't have the personnel to help.
And nothing's No one's coming off the couch. You know,
nobody's Joe flaccoing this thing to save a season. It's
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just not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I wonder.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
There's teams that need things that the trade deadline, but
we tend to go, boy, that guy could be traded,
or that guy could be traded, and then they're not traded.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Do you see any name or names that you think
will be traded?
Speaker 11 (33:59):
Not any big name you know we got listen, you
know this. You've been doing this longer than I've been
doing this. Talking about the NFL trade deadline was a
blip on the radar. You said, oh, here's the date,
here's the time, and then wait for nothing to happen.
But all of a sudden, one year, Christian McCaffery gets traded.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
TJ.
Speaker 11 (34:16):
Hockkinson gets traded, and they both have our a huge
input to their new teams San Francisco and Minnesota, respectively,
So all of a sudden, it's like, well, wait a minute,
a guy can come in and kind of change the
landscape a little bit. The big names talked about this
year have been Max Crosby and Miles Garrett, right because
you know, Detroit needs a pass rusher. I thought they
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were going to go after a Son Reddick, but the Jets.
I mean, listen, the Jets already pushed all their chips
in the middle of the table. They might as well
continue to do it. But I thought the Jets were
going to trade a Son Reddick, and I thought Detroit
would be a landing spot. But Max Crosby and Miles
Garrett aren't going to get traded. You had the receivers
that got traded in Cooper and DeVante Adams, which certainly
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can Cooper certainly can help in Buffalo. Like I said,
the Jets are just are too far gone in this
so I think there'll be some minor trades like there
have been, but I don't think any major names are
going to go, especially on the defensive pass rush side.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Would you wear a guardian helmet if you were playing?
Speaker 11 (35:17):
I probably wouldn't, but I don't have a problem with
guys that do. I'm amazed at some people that say, oh,
this looks weird or looks them So what I mean?
So what if a guy thinks that's going to protect them?
And I know the information is still out there on
just how much it protects. But if somebody wants to
wear that for the physical protection and just the mental
(35:37):
side of it of feeling better, so what I mean,
more power to them. I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
But if I had, you know, you know, documented a
number of concussions, I think I maybe have had them,
but they weren't documented. Again, don't know.
Speaker 11 (35:54):
Maybe if I had a number of them and more
prevalent today than it was when I played, that may
I would be more aware of it today and wear one.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
But I have zero issue with players wearing them.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
We don't talk about lineman with concussions the way we
do other positions, and linemen are engaged with every single play.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Why is that.
Speaker 11 (36:14):
There is a there's a new helmet coming out. I
think it's already out for linemen, which protrudes in the
forehead area and the talk of it being lineman because
lineman's are in a hit every single play, but it's not.
It's not a for lack of a better term, a
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car wreck hit. You know, like a dB or linebacker,
you know where they're space coming up their filling space
on a wide receiver or a running back who got
to the second or third level, and there's that major collision.
Offensive defensive linemen hit within three feet of one another,
you know, and then they'll use their hands more than
their head. Their heads will still collide. And when you
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hit a running back on a running play, the running
back normally isn't at full speed. So while there's actually
continuously hitting the head of every play, it's not as
as speed driven impact as the more space in between
the hitters.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Is what's that feeling like when you're under the pile
and you can't get up and you got three hundred
pound guys who are on top of you, Maybe you
can't breathe, Maybe there's extracurriculars like what's that feeling like?
Speaker 11 (37:27):
Well, I was normally part of the extracurriculars, or try
and get the ball, trying to bend some fingers or
twist some hands. And I was normally one of those
three hundred pounders laying on somebody smaller, trying to take
the air out of them, trying to when you're pushed
up off of them, trying to have your forearm maybe
push on their neck or their lower back. But luck
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that usually only happens and they scrum for the football.
And if a small guy gets caught on the bottom,
that could be it could be a problem. But for
bigger guys, it's not really that big of an issue.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
There's no conversation that goes on.
Speaker 11 (38:03):
I think my brother Bob, when he was a nose
tackle on Cleveland, used to talk about a conversation he
would have with Boomer asiasin when there were fumbles and
they were in the bottom of a scrum. They would
they would chat about something. I don't think they were
often fond or good conversations. There were probably a lot
of swear words involved, but yeah, there's there's some bad
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things that go on in those pile ups.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Do you hold any grudges?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
No?
Speaker 11 (38:33):
Oh no, I just like I just like if there's
a sideline blow up on the same team of players
or coaches. I don't put anything in on game day
because tensions are so high, emotions run so high.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Nobody chief shotted you that you still hold a grudge
against them.
Speaker 11 (38:50):
No, Kevin Gogan, we got in the fight. He was
with the Cowboys, I was with the Eagles. He punched
me in that he had a little six inch Mike
Tyson jab on me in a in a fight that
didn't get seen by the referees, and.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
He exploded my lip.
Speaker 11 (39:02):
I mean I had blood on the inside of my
face mask on my face. I didn't even realize it
until I got off the field. But hey, it was
we were both squared off. It was fair. I mean
I I wasn't a great player, dan so I was
a line stepper at times, so I unfortunately fell into
the cat And now I never went after anybody's knees
or anything like that, But.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
No, I never.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
My My fights were kind of straight up, squared up,
face to face.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
So if you saw Kevin Gogan, just take how's the family,
Everything's going?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Yeah, I'd relive the.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Day six seven thirty.
Speaker 11 (39:38):
So I'd look up at him like I did on
the field and say, dude, that was a great punch.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
That was he twisted my face mask and caught me
right in the tin. But you got to give credit
where credit's due.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Good to talk to you, Mike, my best of the family,
Thanks for joining us. That's Mike Golick, co host of
Gojo and Golick on DraftKings Network.
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