November 27, 2024 • 35 mins
Dan reacts to the latest college football news. Andy Staples breaks down the recent college football rankings and why Clemson being placed at 12 bothered him. Ryan Fitzpatrick discusses Bill Belichick's media career and what it was like facing his teams on the field. Kenny Mayne reminisces on his career at ESPN and previews his new documentary on Wiffle Ball. And Fritzy gives us the same Thanksgiving sports names that he's given us the past 10 years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We make way for Andy Staples are a good buddy
from on three sports covers. The sport always makes us
smarter in the joints. Just now, Andy, good morning. Got
any problem with the latest rankings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
The one that I.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Thought was a little interesting is where they have Clemson
at number twelve. So what they're saying here is if
Clemson beat South Carolina, which South Carolina is their number
fifteen team, that Clemson could jump into an at large
spot depending on what happens above them. And I think
that's a little interesting because of the teams that they
have them clustered around, because they got Clemson just ahead
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of Alabama and Old Miss. Now Alabama Ole Miss each
have one more loss. But let's look at the schedules.
Clemson toughest game they played Georgia got destroyed by Georgia.
Alabama and ole Miss both beat Georgia. Clemson did not
play the kind of schedule they did. Now what you
can say is, well, Alabama shouldn't have lost to Oklahoma
by three touchdowns. Ole Miss shouldn't have lost to Florida.
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I mean, those are five lost teams and that makes
perfect sense. But Clemson's other losses to Louisville, which is
potentially gonna look just like that if Louisville loses to
Kentucky this weekend. So I think that's a weird spot.
And I heard Ward Manuel talking about it last night.
I think what's gonna happen? And the Clemson fans are
not gonna like this. If they beat South Carolina, they're
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gonna get jobbed out of this thing anyway, because the
committee's gonna look at it again and go, oh, we
screw that up and put Alabama or Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, why is Alabama ranked ahead of Old Miss.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's a great question because there's no real head to
head to figure out. You know, you've got some common opponents,
but that's pretty much it. Al mioss lost to LSU,
Alabama crushed LSU, Alabama narrowly beat Georgia. Ole Miss crush Georgia.
So it's very hard to parse those two. South Carolina
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beneath those two is easier because South Carolina lost head
to head to both of those two. What will get
interesting about that, Dan, though, is if South Carolina beats
Clemson this weekend, can you put them above Alabama or
ole Miss because they lost to them.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Give me the team that is in the playoffs now
that won't be in the playoffs once they start.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Oh, that's a great question, because it could be somebody
who just loses this weekend. That's that's the thing. There
were a couple holy crap games this past weekend, and
it was Alabama, Oklahoma and Florida ole Miss. There's the
potential for something like that. So I think if Notre
Dame lost to USC, I think they'd be out because
I think I think we all need to agree to
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count Notre Dame's loss to Northern Illinois as two losses
because it's that bad. But if it's your only loss, okay,
But if you go lose to a five loss USC
in addition to losing the Northern of an ELOI, you probably.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Should be out.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Another one like Tennessee's playing Vanderbilt this weekend. Most years
you're like, oh, Tennessee's gonna roll over Vanderbilt. This not
this Vanderbilt team. This could be a really good game.
And this is this is a scary spot for Tennessee
because the Vandy wins, Tennessee's out.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, you also have Maryland against Penn State. That's kind
of sneaky good there.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah, I'm not as worried about that because Penn State
got their scare against Minnesota last week. I think I
think they match up really well with Maryland. Also, I
was very impressed with the way James Franklin handled the
end of that game. I kind of like that because
I want to see that version of Penn State in
the playoff where he's faking upon he's going forward on
fourth down to salt away the game and kind of
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the way he termed it was winning it on their terms.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's how you have to win in.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The playoff, and that's not something that Penn State has
done really a lot in the last few years. So
I'm kind of interested to see what they do. I
think they're going to be fine against Maryland. The other
one that's weird that I'd worry about. Dan Now this
this team could be out with this. If Miami were
to lose to Syracuse. The total in that game is
like sixty seven and a half seems completely reasonable. This
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feels like a complete shootout. Miami's defense has been somewhat suspect,
but so with Syracuse. Is so I think this could
be a very high scoring, last team with the ball
wins kind of game. If Miami were to lose that game, Dan,
they would be out of the AEC Championship. Clemson would
then get into the AEC Championship again against SMU.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That would be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We're talking Andy Staples, he covers college football for on
three Sports. Give me the school that is out of
the playoffs. Who will be in the playoffs when they start? Well,
right now, if you look at the rankings, all of
the big twelve teams are out. One of them is
going to get in.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
There's four teams, all of which have a chance to
make the conference title game depending on what happens this weekend,
and the winner of that conference title game is getting in.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So I would.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Say Arizona State and Iowa State I kind of feel
the best about, and then those two play and i
State's the hottest team in the league right now, so
I think I think Sparky would be the one that
makes it in there.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
What's gonna happen to these conference championship games in the future,
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They've already talked about expanding the playoff to fourteen starting
in twenty twenty six, and I think the reason for
that is they want to make sure that the SEC
and Big Ten Championships have some stakes because those would
be the only two buys and you would assume that
those are probably going to the Big Ten and SEC champs.
So the worry was that both of those games, both
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those teams are in the playoff, nobody cares. I mean,
you can make a case this year that it's probably
better to lose the Big Ten Championship and be the
five seed than be the one seed. So they don't
want that. They don't want to have that happen. So
I think that's what you're going to see with those games.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
This format is great for the Big Twelve Championship game.
It's great for the ACC Championship game because those are
win and in situation. Probably now maybe the ACC they
both get it and we'll see, but the Big Twelve
is absolutely going to be the winner's in, the losers out,
and that's all. And I think they'd like to keep
it that way because I think that actually makes it
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the best product. But then the Big Ten in the SEC,
it's a different story.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Good to talk to you, Happy Thanksgiving, Safe travels this weekend. Andy,
thank you, Happy Thanksgiving it to all you guys.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Andy Staples, you are listening to the Dan Patrick Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You can see him Amazon Prime Video Thursday night analyst
the Raiders take on the Chiefs. That'll be black Friday
and coverage starts at three Eastern only on Prime Videos.
We welcome back Ryan Fitzpatrick, former quarterback Harvard quarterback. Wait
do people mention that doesn't seem like they go, oh,
Ryan Fitzpatrick. Do you know he went to Harvard?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No, it's disappointing.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Although Harvard just lost to Yale, so I don't really
like to talk about Harvard. We did win the IVY title,
but we lost the most important game.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
How long does that stay with you when you lose
to Yale? Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, I say the Harvard thing.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
You know what, you get ten games in the IVY
League and there's no chance of playoffs or anything like that.
So that's a big deal. I wouldn't know I was
four and o versus.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Question.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is there IVY League smack talk that I'm not aware of?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
There is?
Speaker 6 (07:40):
But it's more you know that the safety school chance
a big one Yeah, there's there's a couple of bad ones,
but they're they're all pretty pretty lame, pretty lame.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Ivy League humor.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What was your safe safe school?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Uh? Interesting question.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
I probably would have been it wouldn't have been another
Ivy League school. It would have been walking on to
a place like Stanford or Notre Dame or Northwestern or
one of those schools.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, all right, how would you sum up the AFC
so far?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Well, we'll have Kansas City this week and I can't
wait to get a closer look.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, I was very vocal last year.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And saying, you know, they needed to lose some games
and there's no chance they're going to win the Super Bowl.
They lost some games, and of course they won the
Super Bowl because as we know, Patrick Mahomes in close
games is always going to win it. But I love
what Buffalo's doing right now. I think the Texans they
have the team to get hot at the right time,
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but obviously they're really struggling right now. Pittsburgh, we got
to see them up close and personal against Cleveland this
last week, and they're just they're not going to have
the offense to do it this year.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm still really intrigued by the Ravens.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I think this week will tell us a lot when
they're playing against the Eagles and.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Then the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
It's just a very specific way that they have to
win football games, which is good for playoff football. But
I just don't think they're going to be able to
put the pieces together this year on offense.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
All right.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
State of the NFC, the NFC, I mean there's some heavyweights,
you know, obviously, starting with Detroit, and they look they
look pretty unbeatable right now. They've got a great formula,
you know, and the teams I like to look at,
you know, teams that can run the ball, which they can,
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but teams that play great defense and can turn the
ball over they can take it away and give it
to their offense. And three of the best four in
the NFL right now are Detroit, Minnesota and Green Bay.
I think the Eagles, we got a close look at
them against the Commanders, and and they can win games
in a lot of different ways, just like Detroit can.
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They can score with anybody that can play great defense.
But I still Green Bay to me is the sleeper
team that I absolutely love. I love the way they
play and it's all contingent on Jordan Love and if
he can get hot at the right time, I think
they're going to be really tough in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He's Ryan Fitzpatrick Amazon Prime Video Thursday Night Analyst and
you can see the Raiders taking on the Chiefs on
Black Friday. Their coverage starts at three Eastern only on
Prime Video. We hear a lot about organizations and it's dysfunctional,
whether it's the Jets or it could be you know,
fill in the blank here. Did you ever feel like
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you were part of a dysfunctional organization and if so,
how did you know it was dysfunctional?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Well, I would say that was pretty much my career.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Just the places I'd decided to go, but yeah, I
think when you have great organizations, then you really start
to notice and feel how bad the other ones were.
When I was when I was in Tennessee, it wasn't great,
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you know. When when I was with the Jets, it
actually wasn't bad. And we've seen the way that's played
out these last two years. But Houston for me, was
a good one. Houston, when I got there, saw the
way that it was run, the way that they cared
for their players. That was one that made me realize
maybe some of the ones I'd had in the past
weren't great, you know. Coming up my first two teams
(11:37):
were Saint Louis and Cincinnati. Uh, and so you don't
know any better until you get somewhere else. But I
also had a really bad stretch everywhere I went. The
owner died shortly thereafter I had. I mean, it was
not a good Georgia Frontier unfortunately, and we had then
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we had but Adams, then we had McNair, and it
was just a long list. I started looking at myself
like it must be me, but thankfully the last few survived.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Wow, that's some black humor there. That's dark humor there.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, yeamn.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Do you imagine you know, a coach says, hey, you
know what we can always bring in, uh, Ryan Fitzpatrick,
and the owner goes, no, no, no, no, we can't
bring him in. No no.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Usually that's a different reason.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, if you had an MVP vote, who would get it.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I feel like we struggle every week with recency bias
because it was definitely Lamar and then it was definitely
Josh And now after watching Saquon Holy Smokes, I still,
it's just hard to not give it to a quarterback
because of how difficult the position is. So right now,
my vote is Josh Allen, but he's going to have
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to beat Detroit. If he doesn't beat Detroit, then he's
not going to have a chance at the MVP.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
What's it like now? You go through your career trying
not to say something. Now you're employed to say something,
and now your words have meaning, and now people hear it,
players hear it. How you know? Tell me about that
transition from I don't want to say anything to you know,
upset anybody, to I might say something that's going to
upset somebody.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Yeah, I think as long as it's rooted in the truth,
I've kind of come to terms with it. It's not
a bad thing to speak your mind if it's rooted
in the truth. Now, if you've got a personal vendetta
and they're going after somebody, which you know.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think Belichick has been awesome to listen to.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
He has been so refreshing and his knowledge and everything
he says. But I feel like sometimes there's a different
angle that he's playing with some of the comments.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That he makes about certain people.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
I think, as long as it's rooted in truth, then
it's okay that I haven't had a problem with it
at all.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Then there's other situations.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I have a very unique perspective, So Daniel Jones, for example,
that's something that I live. And I wasn't a franchise
quarterback for six seasons, but I had those those little
spurts where I was franchise quarterback. I did get benched,
I did have to go into work.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
The next day.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
So stuff like that becomes easy for me to talk
about because of the perspective that I had and some
of that experience that I can share with everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Okay, go back to Belichick. What's the angle that he's playing.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Well, you know, I think that some of his some
of his comments on Mayo were.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Heavy handed, a.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Little heavy handed.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Maybe because of the way it ended there and how
their relationship was at the end. But there's there's some
stuff you can you can read through the lines a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
He says so many things, but he doesn't say them
in a loud way. We're so used to broadcasters now
hot take and I'm gonna say it loudly. There's something
loud about Belichick. So you kind of miss what he's saying,
or you know, because of how he's saying it, and
and there.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
But there's the thing I love about him is there's
purpose behind everything that he says. Like you said, it's
not it's not for the hot take, it's not for
the views. There's a purpose behind every little thing that
he says, you know, when most of it rooted in truth,
some of it rooted in vengeance.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
But I really have.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Enjoyed and he's been everywhere, but I've enjoyed listening to
him a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Did you ask him what was the game plan when
you faced me? When he when he was facing you, like,
I'd be curious, tell me what the book was on me?
From Belichick's eyes?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yeah, I mean I think I I know the book.
I played him fourteen times.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You know.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
It was essentially, let's let's make this guy make mistakes.
We're going to make him beat us, play tight coverage,
take away your best receiver, whether you know it was
Brandon Marshall when I was there, DeVante Parker. But I
had some really bad memories versus them, I mean, playing
playing against New England when they were rolling, and then
(16:09):
they've had some good ones too, three different places you
know in the AFC East, I was able to beat
them and beat Tom. But yeah, three and eleven record.
I don't I don't think he uh, I think he
had the.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Happy Thanksgiving to you, and we'll be watching on Black Friday.
It'll be the Kansas City Chiefs and the Raiders. Thanks
for joining us.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Again, Ryan, all right, thank you, looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
It, Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (16:46):
Kenny Menski, former ESPN Sports Center anchor, now a current
sports center anchor, I believe, and he has a documentary
on Fubu Sports. It's called wiffle Ball, and Kenny joins
his stun. First of all, let's let's clear up what
is your job description now with ESPN?
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I'm unemployed, But next time somebody hires me, I'm employed.
That's where I'm at right now. No, I they let
me on last Friday, Okay, to promote, just like you aren't.
Thank you for I know you were probably desperate for
guests the day before Thanksgiving. I was happy to fill
that role. I made a silly, little movie. Really, it's
a long video, but it sounds cooler to call it
(17:26):
a film. And I've been asking old friends, and you
guys are kind enough to let me come out here
and promote what I'm doing. But they put me on
Sports Center last Friday as a favor to promote my movie.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's all. It was a one off.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh okay, I thought you came back and then you
were going to be a sports center. Would you come
back right now?
Speaker 7 (17:44):
If offered how much and how many.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Let's say they said you had to do fifty sports centers.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Are you negotiating for me?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I will?
Speaker 7 (17:57):
I mean you have way more power. I mean I'm
like I said, I'm unemployed. I'm selling a movie. I
have a podcast deal. We're waiting on paperwork. I'm selling
greeting cards. I might sell my car. I don't want
to sell my house. We're doing okay, we're not doing
to go fundme.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh okay. I to make sure you don't know it was.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
I will say it really was fun going back for
the one day. Like I know you've come back once
or twice. I think you and Keith. In fact, I
worked that night and it was cool. It was great
having you guys around and doing your thing. But it's
also feels a little weird because you've left. Now you're back.
They didn't know me. At the front gate. The guy said,
have you ever been here before?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Do you know your way?
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Yeah, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The same thing happened to me. Made me show id
and I said, I helped build this place, and then
he laughed. I go, I'm not joking. So he gave
me a visitor's past that I wore on the air
with Van Pelt one night. I'm like, all right, I'll
just be a visitor here.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Visitor.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
I have the same thing when it comes to trying
to get credentials for different events. So like Seahawks were
at the Giants last year and my credentials said my
name and said other They didn't know what the hell
to call me.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So in between jobs, all right, so tell us how
you decided that you were going to do a document
I call it a documentary. It is, yeah, documentary on
wiffle ball.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Years and years ago. When I was in Seattle one
day when Ken Griffy was a rookie, he Harold Reynolds
and I went Intottle feature story at the Seattle Center
ended up throwing whiffleballs for speed on a really chintzy
little radar gun, and all these years I bragged that
I beat Griffy by one mile prior. In my head,
I still think I did. I think my cameraman double clicked.
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And Griffy was at the Seattle Sports Award show two
years ago and he brought it up, so it's in
his head from thirty odd years ago. I was like,
I'm going to make a dumb movie about it's really
my love letter to whiffleball, my childhood. And then it
morphs into can you believe I got to throw wiffle
balls against you know, the Willie Mays of our era?
And we tried to prove my point that.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I beat him, but was Griffy cooperative with your documentary.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
He declined to be physically involved.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Still in his head, then I.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Think he knows I beat him. That's what I think,
but I don't care because he's legend in baseball in Seattle.
Getting to look at him at age nineteen throwing a
whiffle ball is just funny all by itself. We have
Ken Burns, fellow documentarian. He's in the documentary. We have
a science professor analyzing the tape. We have the president
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of whiffle ball in Connecticut. You know, it's right down
there off Root eight by you, and so we have
all these components. I really tried to tell a real story,
like I really wanted to take that part seriously, but
yet do it in somewhat of a silly way.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
And it's also an homage a love letter to the
city of Seattle as well, Oh for sure.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
I mean it starts with my Dick Williams joke. I'm
my second year of broadcast in Seattle. I'm local sports
reporter for this little station in Tacoma. And I said, Dick,
is it just me or if you had trouble purchasing
whiffleball equipment this spring? I'm thinking that's really funny, better
than the Thanksgiving jokes you guys just and Dick looks
at me like you wanted to kill me, and I'm like,
(21:20):
you know, the plastic bat thing, and he's I know
what wiffleball is that Your joke's not funny? Okay, Dick,
let's talk about your middle relief. How do they stacking
up hoose?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (21:31):
So, but no Mark Sands for my best friend broke
Babruce homeran record in one summer of Whiffleball. Those are
dogs barking in the back. I'm outdoors. He also got
some construction noise. Now there's a dog fight. I just
want to be inside where our dogs might bark. Or
Gretchen with yell, go get crescent rolls or something. So
I'm at her on the plot.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
It's quite a quite a spread you've got there is that?
Is that your Connecticut mansion or your Seattle mansion?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Well, because you built ESPN and others of us got
to follow you and gain from that wind fault.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
No, we're in Connecticut. So I got remarried and and
our last of the four daughters just went to college.
There's just me and Gretchen here in West Starford. But
all the girls came back for Thanksgiving, so we're very
joyous about that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You can find the documentary Whiffle Ball on fuboo sports.
Boo bo fou boh, what did I say, boo boo?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
You talked about the clothing line of nineteen eighty three
fo bo boo boo. It's available now on demand.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
On I f you b a bo Kenny Mainski joining
us Live to the Nation on the program.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
You know, I thought of that coming in. You. You
and Stuart Scott both had a funny way of making
me giggle right before the show would start. You would
always say Live to the Nation right before we run
the air, and it'd make you and Stuart always said,
let's get stupid, and each one had its own value
for loosening an audience. And and your your co host.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Do you remember your first Sports Center Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
It was with Larry Beale. He was very gentle and
guided me through. You're nervous as hell the first one.
You know, I'm over there on ESPN two doing the
Sports Smash, and then now and then you know, people
needed to date. Brett Haber is off today and here
come on. And Larry's a sweetheart. I mean he guided
me through a little different than Kilbourne, who's like, thanks
(23:24):
for joining us from ESPN two, Ken, and what are
you paradise now you're in charge of scheduling like.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You were good.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
You're a little bit letterman like though you don't like
just now you went away for six minutes, no hello
before just come Live to the Nation when it's time.
You don't want to get too close to the person
you're interview.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, no, I think it's easier that way. Sometimes you
leave your best stuff, you know, before you do the interview.
And although people might debate if we've left our best
stuff before the interview during this interview, but even doing
highlights that you know, there were no guard rails, we
basically got to the point where when Oberman and I
(24:08):
were doing we mocked ourselves doing the highlights because we'd
kind of run out of ways to be creative with highlights.
And I think you even mocked our mocking of our highlights.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
What I remember most about you is how quickly you
were out of the building, Like you're saying, abye it
to the camera guy in the audio, where's down? He's got,
he's on the fire starter on his car, he's gone,
he's done. On the way to Stamford, he's halfway down. Rude,
but no, you were great to work with. Somebody asked
me just on one of my recent interviews, because remember
Keith left and then they had this tryout thing for
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three months. It was all weird, and somehow they picked
me out of the hat and those were a couple
of good years.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Well, it was one of those that they put so
much pressure on me because Oberman left and they're like,
all right, and everybody in the building thought I was
picking who my co host was. And I said, I'm
I'm going to do the show. You watched the show.
Who do you want to see on the show? And
I remember, I didn't lose friendship, but I did lose
Some people were upset that maybe I didn't go to
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bat for them or they should have been in there,
but I just said, hey, I didn't have anything to
do with it, which I didn't. And I remember when
I got a call. I was on a camping trip
with my son and Norby Williamson said hey, we're going
to go with Kenny Maine. I said, okay, I got
to go back to helping my son get his swimming badge,
so you know, I'll see you in a week, and
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that was it. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't want
to get involved in it because I just thought, let
management decide who they want in there, instead of me
trying to bigfoot and say you know who I want,
because it didn't matter because you were following Keith and
whoever that was was going to have a lot of
pressure on them. And I don't know if you felt it,
but you know that was surely certainly what I was
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trying to factor in here.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
Thanks for picking me, so yeah, I mean Norby must
have got out voted, right, It must have been Walsh
and Vince and I don't know what the committee. Steve
Anderson was still there so didn't like you. I don't
think he got me. I don't think he disliked me
so much as he just got I wasn't serious enough
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to convey the giants rushing statistics that week or whatever,
like I thought. I didn't copy anybody, but I definitely
modeled after what you guys did, because you guys made
it fun. You know that's Bill Patrick was good, all
sorts of people, Bob Lee's sharp sense of humor, Charlie
Stein or on and on and on. And it was
supposed to be fun. We always took the serious things seriously.
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If somebody, you know, some serious matter, whatever it was,
and the rest of it was just fun. You're supposed
to have fun. The guys made a nice catch, say
a Celly Lyne, say a home run call. Well, you
know whatever, have fun, still trying to have fun?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, the doctor football on Fubo Sport. It's It's on demand.
It's Kenny's Whiffleball documentary can be found on Foobo. That's
f u Bo Sports. And yeah, you see what I
did for the second time. You finally got it. F
you Bo highlights his journey to find out if you
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threw a whiffle ball faster than Ken Griffyth Jr.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Take the Seahawks on the money line, gambling problems. Thanks thanks,
I like the Seahawks this week.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Your Seahawks money line straight up? All right?
Speaker 7 (27:33):
You know I hate right back.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Thank you, Kenny Bubos.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Wait, I'm done. I had like I have, I still
got time plenty.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
We're done now. Yeah. I wanted to make sure that
we you know, I don't want to ruin everything and
then everybody's going to go I've heard the story, get
like I want them. This a tease is what it is.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, let's go you.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
He's Kenny, Kenny May Thanks Kenny. Thanks Hey, happy thing,
Thanksgiving to you and the girls. Okay, that's it, We've
done it. It's Kenny Me.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
We're thankful for you. Let's go around the room. Say
something nice about the audience. Todd, I'll start with you.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
We appreciate their sense of humor and their creativity and
their loyalty to the program.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Nat Satan say something nice.
Speaker 10 (28:31):
Uh, they're always there to play along. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Marvin.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
I love their family like atmosphere with us.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Paul.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I love when a caller or a person on Twitter
listener has an unbelievable joke.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
And we get to use it on the show.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, because it's usually better than the jokes that we
have on our end. But we're thankful every day we
get to do this Monday through Friday. One day, it ends,
one day, it ends.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
Oh, we'd have to talk about that right now.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
No, but live in the moment. It's like three years,
almost three years. We got three more years.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
That's like over a thousand days if you think about
it out of time.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes it is.
Speaker 10 (29:08):
But for the first time ever, it's about to go
from a four digit thing.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
No, three digits.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
No, once you drop into the nine hundreds, well then
it just goes down to two digits after that.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
How many shows do we have, so December twenty fourth,
twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
Last day twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, twenty twenty seven. How many shows will we do
before then?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Maybe we could?
Speaker 10 (29:37):
Well, you guys take every other week off anyway, so
it doesn't really matter if you're gonna do the.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Show and you got a number ball.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
I would bet we have under eight hundred shows remaining.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, all right, let's make the best of it. How
about let's get one great show?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, one for eight hundred? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (29:57):
How twenty more times do we have Ryan F? Patrick
on in those eight hundred shows?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Two?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
You think two? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (30:04):
You think he's good for two?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:05):
I think under one and a half from that?
Speaker 10 (30:07):
What about Andy Staples?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Andy Staples eighty four? Yeah, I'm gonna give him fifteen.
Speaker 10 (30:13):
Yeah, that's gonna go it in a dozen ballpark?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Chris mannis how many times is mannix? Six? Five?
Speaker 10 (30:20):
Maybe he didn't really come on anymore? Yeah, dude, he
big time? Do us just like Chrissy Tigan, all of
a sudden, everybody's too big?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah? Yeah, they leave us though, yeah they do. It's
like this is the sports nest, and you know I
would bring back food and feed everybody and then they
just eventually get their wings and then they fly away.
That's it, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
What about one of our new favorites, Benny Goodwill.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Benny Goodwill, Mike could carve out you know, five six
appearances he's entertaining when it comes on. How about Ross
Tucker over under? Forty appearances over there in three years?
Forty appearances Ross Tucker.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
That's almost once a month the next.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Three years, next three years, you can see that over
over which guest will be on more than any other
guest in the net in the next three years.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
It may be Ross Florio's up there, Albert Brears up there,
but those three will be in the mix.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
There.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Let me see, Oh Todd's gone his Thanksgiving Day names?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Oh now you get come to me withoutes?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
How many? How many do you have?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
I'll go through them pretty quick. I'm not gonna read
all them. I'm gonna go through the ones that I
think are the best.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Okay, maybe only here we.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Go, all right, an honor of our previous guest, Kenny
main course, But did we get him in there?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Don't explain keeping Lamar Autumn.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Lamar Autumn, that's cranberry sauce gardener.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
That's good obi toppings, that's good play Thurmond. No, we're
not William the Refrigerator, Perry Fat Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Oh he's not fat but.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
A dad Bond Mick Chubby.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
What does Lamar autumn mean?
Speaker 11 (32:17):
Lamar autumnate to thanksgivings and continue stool Leonards.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
That's not even accurate.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
You eat a lot, you know you gotta have a stool, Leonards.
Ricky Fowler This, I'm always been goodies, Jack Ham, Matt Turkey,
Matt Turk, Met Kevin Greevy. I know you remember Kevin Greevy.
This is Kevin Gravy from the Washington Books Days.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
Okay, Mark Eaton, Bud Black Friday, Nick Foliage, Goose Gossage
and Ceedee, lamb Houston, Nutmeg, Charlie green Bean, casser Lee
pie Trainer, Coco Crisp and cause you get the last
apple crisp. Native Archibald, I know you're like Native Archibald
from here Cincinnati Days, Ernest Givens, Tim McCarry, Mitchell, True Biscuits,
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Entrell roll Yam Donald, Oh, I like Jam Donald, Eric
Butterbean Esh saying Mark Grace after meals Bud Black, Oh
you say before you could say something after Nights Bud Black, Friday, Colony, Kaepernick,
Hank Gathers, rest in Peace, Randall, Tex Cobbler, Plymouth, Rock Rains,
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Rawley Feastwick, tastem Hills. That a taste the hill, taste
them Hill. You'll let me have that one, Rue Meal, Robinson,
fo More, Jack Kent, Cook, Bake McBride, Cornbread, Maxwell and
Carl Feathers and our sponsor.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Steve Traeger from the Dodgers, Steve Traeger.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
That's what we got.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
But no, I know, I have to explain what I
have to say that people don't know what Stu Leonard's
is all over the country.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I don't think. Yeah, it's not everywhere, you know.
Speaker 10 (34:05):
Paul just brought up a good point. Do we have
two Thanksgiving names lists left?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Or is it three? Two?
Speaker 10 (34:16):
That'd be three now I got yeah, yeah, twenty five, six,
twenty seven, So we only have to do that three
more times.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
It's hopeful math.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But then we also have three Christmas ones? Okay, over
under number.
Speaker 10 (34:27):
Will Todd add three new names to that list by
the end of year three?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yes you think he will? Yes, just barely, barely, barely.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
I'd say something in the four or five ranch.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
All right, anything you'd like to add. Todd, you were
you did a great job your contributions today.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
We had a lot of fun. This was a great
Thanksgiving Eve all together.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
And we'll go our separate ways for a few days
with family, and then we'll get back at it next Monday.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
All right, say something nice about us everybody in the room.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
You guys are kind and considered for the most part.
Speaker 11 (34:58):
Sometimes, oh my gosh, sometimes sometimes I take the snarkiness
or the meanest is the wrong way because I'm very sensitive.
But I think I think it's all done in love,
and ultimately we're all team players and here to bring
up the best in one another and wish good, happy
things for each other.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
That is the clip, by the way, that if we
needed to play a clip of audio from the show
for a therapist.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
That's the one that I would play. Thanks for all
the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support. We
have a lot of things to be grateful for, and
certainly you being our audience. Top of the list for
Todd Seaton, Marv Paulie, Here's truly have a great weekend.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We make way for Andy Staples are a good buddy
from on three sports covers. The sport always makes us
smarter in the joints. Just now, Andy, good morning. Got
any problem with the latest rankings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
The one that I.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Thought was a little interesting is where they have Clemson
at number twelve. So what they're saying here is if
Clemson beat South Carolina, which South Carolina is their number
fifteen team, that Clemson could jump into an at large
spot depending on what happens above them. And I think
that's a little interesting because of the teams that they
have them clustered around, because they got Clemson just ahead
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of Alabama and Old Miss. Now Alabama Ole Miss each
have one more loss. But let's look at the schedules.
Clemson toughest game they played Georgia got destroyed by Georgia.
Alabama and ole Miss both beat Georgia. Clemson did not
play the kind of schedule they did. Now what you
can say is, well, Alabama shouldn't have lost to Oklahoma
by three touchdowns. Ole Miss shouldn't have lost to Florida.
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I mean, those are five lost teams and that makes
perfect sense. But Clemson's other losses to Louisville, which is
potentially gonna look just like that if Louisville loses to
Kentucky this weekend. So I think that's a weird spot.
And I heard Ward Manuel talking about it last night.
I think what's gonna happen? And the Clemson fans are
not gonna like this. If they beat South Carolina, they're
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gonna get jobbed out of this thing anyway, because the
committee's gonna look at it again and go, oh, we
screw that up and put Alabama or Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, why is Alabama ranked ahead of Old Miss.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's a great question because there's no real head to
head to figure out. You know, you've got some common opponents,
but that's pretty much it. Al mioss lost to LSU,
Alabama crushed LSU, Alabama narrowly beat Georgia. Ole Miss crush Georgia.
So it's very hard to parse those two. South Carolina
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beneath those two is easier because South Carolina lost head
to head to both of those two. What will get
interesting about that, Dan, though, is if South Carolina beats
Clemson this weekend, can you put them above Alabama or
ole Miss because they lost to them.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Give me the team that is in the playoffs now
that won't be in the playoffs once they start.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Oh, that's a great question, because it could be somebody
who just loses this weekend. That's that's the thing. There
were a couple holy crap games this past weekend, and
it was Alabama, Oklahoma and Florida ole Miss. There's the
potential for something like that. So I think if Notre
Dame lost to USC, I think they'd be out because
I think I think we all need to agree to
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count Notre Dame's loss to Northern Illinois as two losses
because it's that bad. But if it's your only loss, okay,
But if you go lose to a five loss USC
in addition to losing the Northern of an ELOI, you probably.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Should be out.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Another one like Tennessee's playing Vanderbilt this weekend. Most years
you're like, oh, Tennessee's gonna roll over Vanderbilt. This not
this Vanderbilt team. This could be a really good game.
And this is this is a scary spot for Tennessee
because the Vandy wins, Tennessee's out.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, you also have Maryland against Penn State. That's kind
of sneaky good there.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah, I'm not as worried about that because Penn State
got their scare against Minnesota last week. I think I
think they match up really well with Maryland. Also, I
was very impressed with the way James Franklin handled the
end of that game. I kind of like that because
I want to see that version of Penn State in
the playoff where he's faking upon he's going forward on
fourth down to salt away the game and kind of
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the way he termed it was winning it on their terms.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That's how you have to win in.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The playoff, and that's not something that Penn State has
done really a lot in the last few years. So
I'm kind of interested to see what they do. I
think they're going to be fine against Maryland. The other
one that's weird that I'd worry about. Dan Now this
this team could be out with this. If Miami were
to lose to Syracuse. The total in that game is
like sixty seven and a half seems completely reasonable. This
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feels like a complete shootout. Miami's defense has been somewhat suspect,
but so with Syracuse. Is so I think this could
be a very high scoring, last team with the ball
wins kind of game. If Miami were to lose that game, Dan,
they would be out of the AEC Championship. Clemson would
then get into the AEC Championship again against SMU.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That would be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We're talking Andy Staples, he covers college football for on
three Sports. Give me the school that is out of
the playoffs. Who will be in the playoffs when they start? Well,
right now, if you look at the rankings, all of
the big twelve teams are out. One of them is
going to get in.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
There's four teams, all of which have a chance to
make the conference title game depending on what happens this weekend,
and the winner of that conference title game is getting in.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So I would.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Say Arizona State and Iowa State I kind of feel
the best about, and then those two play and i
State's the hottest team in the league right now, so
I think I think Sparky would be the one that
makes it in there.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
What's gonna happen to these conference championship games in the future,
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They've already talked about expanding the playoff to fourteen starting
in twenty twenty six, and I think the reason for
that is they want to make sure that the SEC
and Big Ten Championships have some stakes because those would
be the only two buys and you would assume that
those are probably going to the Big Ten and SEC champs.
So the worry was that both of those games, both
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those teams are in the playoff, nobody cares. I mean,
you can make a case this year that it's probably
better to lose the Big Ten Championship and be the
five seed than be the one seed. So they don't
want that. They don't want to have that happen. So
I think that's what you're going to see with those games.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
This format is great for the Big Twelve Championship game.
It's great for the ACC Championship game because those are
win and in situation. Probably now maybe the ACC they
both get it and we'll see, but the Big Twelve
is absolutely going to be the winner's in, the losers out,
and that's all. And I think they'd like to keep
it that way because I think that actually makes it
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the best product. But then the Big Ten in the SEC,
it's a different story.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Good to talk to you, Happy Thanksgiving, Safe travels this weekend. Andy,
thank you, Happy Thanksgiving it to all you guys.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Andy Staples, you are listening to the Dan Patrick Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You can see him Amazon Prime Video Thursday night analyst
the Raiders take on the Chiefs. That'll be black Friday
and coverage starts at three Eastern only on Prime Videos.
We welcome back Ryan Fitzpatrick, former quarterback Harvard quarterback. Wait
do people mention that doesn't seem like they go, oh,
Ryan Fitzpatrick. Do you know he went to Harvard?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No, it's disappointing.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Although Harvard just lost to Yale, so I don't really
like to talk about Harvard. We did win the IVY title,
but we lost the most important game.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
How long does that stay with you when you lose
to Yale? Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, I say the Harvard thing.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
You know what, you get ten games in the IVY
League and there's no chance of playoffs or anything like that.
So that's a big deal. I wouldn't know I was
four and o versus.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Question.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Is there IVY League smack talk that I'm not aware of?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
There is?
Speaker 6 (07:40):
But it's more you know that the safety school chance
a big one Yeah, there's there's a couple of bad ones,
but they're they're all pretty pretty lame, pretty lame.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Ivy League humor.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What was your safe safe school?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Uh? Interesting question.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
I probably would have been it wouldn't have been another
Ivy League school. It would have been walking on to
a place like Stanford or Notre Dame or Northwestern or
one of those schools.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, all right, how would you sum up the AFC
so far?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Well, we'll have Kansas City this week and I can't
wait to get a closer look.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, I was very vocal last year.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And saying, you know, they needed to lose some games
and there's no chance they're going to win the Super Bowl.
They lost some games, and of course they won the
Super Bowl because as we know, Patrick Mahomes in close
games is always going to win it. But I love
what Buffalo's doing right now. I think the Texans they
have the team to get hot at the right time,
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but obviously they're really struggling right now. Pittsburgh, we got
to see them up close and personal against Cleveland this
last week, and they're just they're not going to have
the offense to do it this year.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm still really intrigued by the Ravens.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I think this week will tell us a lot when
they're playing against the Eagles and.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Then the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
It's just a very specific way that they have to
win football games, which is good for playoff football. But
I just don't think they're going to be able to
put the pieces together this year on offense.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
All right.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
State of the NFC, the NFC, I mean there's some heavyweights,
you know, obviously, starting with Detroit, and they look they
look pretty unbeatable right now. They've got a great formula,
you know, and the teams I like to look at,
you know, teams that can run the ball, which they can,
(09:42):
but teams that play great defense and can turn the
ball over they can take it away and give it
to their offense. And three of the best four in
the NFL right now are Detroit, Minnesota and Green Bay.
I think the Eagles, we got a close look at
them against the Commanders, and and they can win games
in a lot of different ways, just like Detroit can.
(10:04):
They can score with anybody that can play great defense.
But I still Green Bay to me is the sleeper
team that I absolutely love. I love the way they
play and it's all contingent on Jordan Love and if
he can get hot at the right time, I think
they're going to be really tough in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
He's Ryan Fitzpatrick Amazon Prime Video Thursday Night Analyst and
you can see the Raiders taking on the Chiefs on
Black Friday. Their coverage starts at three Eastern only on
Prime Video. We hear a lot about organizations and it's dysfunctional,
whether it's the Jets or it could be you know,
fill in the blank here. Did you ever feel like
(10:41):
you were part of a dysfunctional organization and if so,
how did you know it was dysfunctional?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Well, I would say that was pretty much my career.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Just the places I'd decided to go, but yeah, I
think when you have great organizations, then you really start
to notice and feel how bad the other ones were.
When I was when I was in Tennessee, it wasn't great,
(11:15):
you know. When when I was with the Jets, it
actually wasn't bad. And we've seen the way that's played
out these last two years. But Houston for me, was
a good one. Houston, when I got there, saw the
way that it was run, the way that they cared
for their players. That was one that made me realize
maybe some of the ones I'd had in the past
weren't great, you know. Coming up my first two teams
(11:37):
were Saint Louis and Cincinnati. Uh, and so you don't
know any better until you get somewhere else. But I
also had a really bad stretch everywhere I went. The
owner died shortly thereafter I had. I mean, it was
not a good Georgia Frontier unfortunately, and we had then
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we had but Adams, then we had McNair, and it
was just a long list. I started looking at myself
like it must be me, but thankfully the last few survived.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Wow, that's some black humor there. That's dark humor there.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, yeamn.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Do you imagine you know, a coach says, hey, you
know what we can always bring in, uh, Ryan Fitzpatrick,
and the owner goes, no, no, no, no, we can't
bring him in. No no.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Usually that's a different reason.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, if you had an MVP vote, who would get it.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I feel like we struggle every week with recency bias
because it was definitely Lamar and then it was definitely
Josh And now after watching Saquon Holy Smokes, I still,
it's just hard to not give it to a quarterback
because of how difficult the position is. So right now,
my vote is Josh Allen, but he's going to have
(12:55):
to beat Detroit. If he doesn't beat Detroit, then he's
not going to have a chance at the MVP.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
What's it like now? You go through your career trying
not to say something. Now you're employed to say something,
and now your words have meaning, and now people hear it,
players hear it. How you know? Tell me about that
transition from I don't want to say anything to you know,
upset anybody, to I might say something that's going to
upset somebody.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Yeah, I think as long as it's rooted in the truth,
I've kind of come to terms with it. It's not
a bad thing to speak your mind if it's rooted
in the truth. Now, if you've got a personal vendetta
and they're going after somebody, which you know.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think Belichick has been awesome to listen to.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
He has been so refreshing and his knowledge and everything
he says. But I feel like sometimes there's a different
angle that he's playing with some of the comments.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That he makes about certain people.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
I think, as long as it's rooted in truth, then
it's okay that I haven't had a problem with it
at all.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Then there's other situations.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I have a very unique perspective, So Daniel Jones, for example,
that's something that I live. And I wasn't a franchise
quarterback for six seasons, but I had those those little
spurts where I was franchise quarterback. I did get benched,
I did have to go into work.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
The next day.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
So stuff like that becomes easy for me to talk
about because of the perspective that I had and some
of that experience that I can share with everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Okay, go back to Belichick. What's the angle that he's playing.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Well, you know, I think that some of his some
of his comments on Mayo were.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Heavy handed, a.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Little heavy handed.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Maybe because of the way it ended there and how
their relationship was at the end. But there's there's some
stuff you can you can read through the lines a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
He says so many things, but he doesn't say them
in a loud way. We're so used to broadcasters now
hot take and I'm gonna say it loudly. There's something
loud about Belichick. So you kind of miss what he's saying,
or you know, because of how he's saying it, and
and there.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
But there's the thing I love about him is there's
purpose behind everything that he says. Like you said, it's
not it's not for the hot take, it's not for
the views. There's a purpose behind every little thing that
he says, you know, when most of it rooted in truth,
some of it rooted in vengeance.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
But I really have.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Enjoyed and he's been everywhere, but I've enjoyed listening to
him a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Did you ask him what was the game plan when
you faced me? When he when he was facing you, like,
I'd be curious, tell me what the book was on me?
From Belichick's eyes?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yeah, I mean I think I I know the book.
I played him fourteen times.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You know.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
It was essentially, let's let's make this guy make mistakes.
We're going to make him beat us, play tight coverage,
take away your best receiver, whether you know it was
Brandon Marshall when I was there, DeVante Parker. But I
had some really bad memories versus them, I mean, playing
playing against New England when they were rolling, and then
(16:09):
they've had some good ones too, three different places you
know in the AFC East, I was able to beat
them and beat Tom. But yeah, three and eleven record.
I don't I don't think he uh, I think he
had the.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Happy Thanksgiving to you, and we'll be watching on Black Friday.
It'll be the Kansas City Chiefs and the Raiders. Thanks
for joining us.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Again, Ryan, all right, thank you, looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
It, Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Kenny Menski, former ESPN Sports Center anchor, now a current
sports center anchor, I believe, and he has a documentary
on Fubu Sports. It's called wiffle Ball, and Kenny joins
his stun. First of all, let's let's clear up what
is your job description now with ESPN?
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I'm unemployed, But next time somebody hires me, I'm employed.
That's where I'm at right now. No, I they let
me on last Friday, Okay, to promote, just like you aren't.
Thank you for I know you were probably desperate for
guests the day before Thanksgiving. I was happy to fill
that role. I made a silly, little movie. Really, it's
a long video, but it sounds cooler to call it
(17:26):
a film. And I've been asking old friends, and you
guys are kind enough to let me come out here
and promote what I'm doing. But they put me on
Sports Center last Friday as a favor to promote my movie.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's all. It was a one off.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh okay, I thought you came back and then you
were going to be a sports center. Would you come
back right now?
Speaker 7 (17:44):
If offered how much and how many.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Let's say they said you had to do fifty sports centers.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Are you negotiating for me?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I will?
Speaker 7 (17:57):
I mean you have way more power. I mean I'm
like I said, I'm unemployed. I'm selling a movie. I
have a podcast deal. We're waiting on paperwork. I'm selling
greeting cards. I might sell my car. I don't want
to sell my house. We're doing okay, we're not doing
to go fundme.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh okay. I to make sure you don't know it was.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
I will say it really was fun going back for
the one day. Like I know you've come back once
or twice. I think you and Keith. In fact, I
worked that night and it was cool. It was great
having you guys around and doing your thing. But it's
also feels a little weird because you've left. Now you're back.
They didn't know me. At the front gate. The guy said,
have you ever been here before?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Do you know your way?
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Yeah, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The same thing happened to me. Made me show id
and I said, I helped build this place, and then
he laughed. I go, I'm not joking. So he gave
me a visitor's past that I wore on the air
with Van Pelt one night. I'm like, all right, I'll
just be a visitor here.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Visitor.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
I have the same thing when it comes to trying
to get credentials for different events. So like Seahawks were
at the Giants last year and my credentials said my
name and said other They didn't know what the hell
to call me.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So in between jobs, all right, so tell us how
you decided that you were going to do a document
I call it a documentary. It is, yeah, documentary on
wiffle ball.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Years and years ago. When I was in Seattle one
day when Ken Griffy was a rookie, he Harold Reynolds
and I went Intottle feature story at the Seattle Center
ended up throwing whiffleballs for speed on a really chintzy
little radar gun, and all these years I bragged that
I beat Griffy by one mile prior. In my head,
I still think I did. I think my cameraman double clicked.
(19:46):
And Griffy was at the Seattle Sports Award show two
years ago and he brought it up, so it's in
his head from thirty odd years ago. I was like,
I'm going to make a dumb movie about it's really
my love letter to whiffleball, my childhood. And then it
morphs into can you believe I got to throw wiffle
balls against you know, the Willie Mays of our era?
And we tried to prove my point that.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I beat him, but was Griffy cooperative with your documentary.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
He declined to be physically involved.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Still in his head, then I.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Think he knows I beat him. That's what I think,
but I don't care because he's legend in baseball in Seattle.
Getting to look at him at age nineteen throwing a
whiffle ball is just funny all by itself. We have
Ken Burns, fellow documentarian. He's in the documentary. We have
a science professor analyzing the tape. We have the president
(20:39):
of whiffle ball in Connecticut. You know, it's right down
there off Root eight by you, and so we have
all these components. I really tried to tell a real story,
like I really wanted to take that part seriously, but
yet do it in somewhat of a silly way.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
And it's also an homage a love letter to the
city of Seattle as well, Oh for sure.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
I mean it starts with my Dick Williams joke. I'm
my second year of broadcast in Seattle. I'm local sports
reporter for this little station in Tacoma. And I said, Dick,
is it just me or if you had trouble purchasing
whiffleball equipment this spring? I'm thinking that's really funny, better
than the Thanksgiving jokes you guys just and Dick looks
at me like you wanted to kill me, and I'm like,
(21:20):
you know, the plastic bat thing, and he's I know
what wiffleball is that Your joke's not funny? Okay, Dick,
let's talk about your middle relief. How do they stacking
up hoose?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (21:31):
So, but no Mark Sands for my best friend broke
Babruce homeran record in one summer of Whiffleball. Those are
dogs barking in the back. I'm outdoors. He also got
some construction noise. Now there's a dog fight. I just
want to be inside where our dogs might bark. Or
Gretchen with yell, go get crescent rolls or something. So
I'm at her on the plot.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
It's quite a quite a spread you've got there is that?
Is that your Connecticut mansion or your Seattle mansion?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Well, because you built ESPN and others of us got
to follow you and gain from that wind fault.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
No, we're in Connecticut. So I got remarried and and
our last of the four daughters just went to college.
There's just me and Gretchen here in West Starford. But
all the girls came back for Thanksgiving, so we're very
joyous about that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You can find the documentary Whiffle Ball on fuboo sports.
Boo bo fou boh, what did I say, boo boo?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
You talked about the clothing line of nineteen eighty three
fo bo boo boo. It's available now on demand.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
On I f you b a bo Kenny Mainski joining
us Live to the Nation on the program.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
You know, I thought of that coming in. You. You
and Stuart Scott both had a funny way of making
me giggle right before the show would start. You would
always say Live to the Nation right before we run
the air, and it'd make you and Stuart always said,
let's get stupid, and each one had its own value
for loosening an audience. And and your your co host.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Do you remember your first Sports Center Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
It was with Larry Beale. He was very gentle and
guided me through. You're nervous as hell the first one.
You know, I'm over there on ESPN two doing the
Sports Smash, and then now and then you know, people
needed to date. Brett Haber is off today and here
come on. And Larry's a sweetheart. I mean he guided
me through a little different than Kilbourne, who's like, thanks
(23:24):
for joining us from ESPN two, Ken, and what are
you paradise now you're in charge of scheduling like.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You were good.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
You're a little bit letterman like though you don't like
just now you went away for six minutes, no hello
before just come Live to the Nation when it's time.
You don't want to get too close to the person
you're interview.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
No, no, I think it's easier that way. Sometimes you
leave your best stuff, you know, before you do the interview.
And although people might debate if we've left our best
stuff before the interview during this interview, but even doing
highlights that you know, there were no guard rails, we
basically got to the point where when Oberman and I
(24:08):
were doing we mocked ourselves doing the highlights because we'd
kind of run out of ways to be creative with highlights.
And I think you even mocked our mocking of our highlights.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
What I remember most about you is how quickly you
were out of the building, Like you're saying, abye it
to the camera guy in the audio, where's down? He's got,
he's on the fire starter on his car, he's gone,
he's done. On the way to Stamford, he's halfway down. Rude,
but no, you were great to work with. Somebody asked
me just on one of my recent interviews, because remember
Keith left and then they had this tryout thing for
(24:43):
three months. It was all weird, and somehow they picked
me out of the hat and those were a couple
of good years.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Well, it was one of those that they put so
much pressure on me because Oberman left and they're like,
all right, and everybody in the building thought I was
picking who my co host was. And I said, I'm
I'm going to do the show. You watched the show.
Who do you want to see on the show? And
I remember, I didn't lose friendship, but I did lose
Some people were upset that maybe I didn't go to
(25:13):
bat for them or they should have been in there,
but I just said, hey, I didn't have anything to
do with it, which I didn't. And I remember when
I got a call. I was on a camping trip
with my son and Norby Williamson said hey, we're going
to go with Kenny Maine. I said, okay, I got
to go back to helping my son get his swimming badge,
so you know, I'll see you in a week, and
(25:34):
that was it. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't want
to get involved in it because I just thought, let
management decide who they want in there, instead of me
trying to bigfoot and say you know who I want,
because it didn't matter because you were following Keith and
whoever that was was going to have a lot of
pressure on them. And I don't know if you felt it,
but you know that was surely certainly what I was
(25:56):
trying to factor in here.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
Thanks for picking me, so yeah, I mean Norby must
have got out voted, right, It must have been Walsh
and Vince and I don't know what the committee. Steve
Anderson was still there so didn't like you. I don't
think he got me. I don't think he disliked me
so much as he just got I wasn't serious enough
(26:18):
to convey the giants rushing statistics that week or whatever,
like I thought. I didn't copy anybody, but I definitely
modeled after what you guys did, because you guys made
it fun. You know that's Bill Patrick was good, all
sorts of people, Bob Lee's sharp sense of humor, Charlie
Stein or on and on and on. And it was
supposed to be fun. We always took the serious things seriously.
(26:40):
If somebody, you know, some serious matter, whatever it was,
and the rest of it was just fun. You're supposed
to have fun. The guys made a nice catch, say
a Celly Lyne, say a home run call. Well, you
know whatever, have fun, still trying to have fun?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, the doctor football on Fubo Sport. It's It's on demand.
It's Kenny's Whiffleball documentary can be found on Foobo. That's
f u Bo Sports. And yeah, you see what I
did for the second time. You finally got it. F
you Bo highlights his journey to find out if you
(27:17):
threw a whiffle ball faster than Ken Griffyth Jr.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Take the Seahawks on the money line, gambling problems. Thanks thanks,
I like the Seahawks this week.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Your Seahawks money line straight up? All right?
Speaker 7 (27:33):
You know I hate right back.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Thank you, Kenny Bubos.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Wait, I'm done. I had like I have, I still
got time plenty.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
We're done now. Yeah. I wanted to make sure that
we you know, I don't want to ruin everything and
then everybody's going to go I've heard the story, get
like I want them. This a tease is what it is.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, let's go you.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
He's Kenny, Kenny May Thanks Kenny. Thanks Hey, happy thing,
Thanksgiving to you and the girls. Okay, that's it, We've
done it. It's Kenny Me.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
We're thankful for you. Let's go around the room. Say
something nice about the audience. Todd, I'll start with you.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
We appreciate their sense of humor and their creativity and
their loyalty to the program.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Nat Satan say something nice.
Speaker 10 (28:31):
Uh, they're always there to play along. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Marvin.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
I love their family like atmosphere with us.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Paul.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I love when a caller or a person on Twitter
listener has an unbelievable joke.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
And we get to use it on the show.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, because it's usually better than the jokes that we
have on our end. But we're thankful every day we
get to do this Monday through Friday. One day, it ends,
one day, it ends.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
Oh, we'd have to talk about that right now.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
No, but live in the moment. It's like three years,
almost three years. We got three more years.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
That's like over a thousand days if you think about
it out of time.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes it is.
Speaker 10 (29:08):
But for the first time ever, it's about to go
from a four digit thing.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
No, three digits.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
No, once you drop into the nine hundreds, well then
it just goes down to two digits after that.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
How many shows do we have, so December twenty fourth,
twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
Last day twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, twenty twenty seven. How many shows will we do
before then?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Maybe we could?
Speaker 10 (29:37):
Well, you guys take every other week off anyway, so
it doesn't really matter if you're gonna do the.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Show and you got a number ball.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
I would bet we have under eight hundred shows remaining.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, all right, let's make the best of it. How
about let's get one great show?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, one for eight hundred? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (29:57):
How twenty more times do we have Ryan F? Patrick
on in those eight hundred shows?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Two?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
You think two? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (30:04):
You think he's good for two?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:05):
I think under one and a half from that?
Speaker 10 (30:07):
What about Andy Staples?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Andy Staples eighty four? Yeah, I'm gonna give him fifteen.
Speaker 10 (30:13):
Yeah, that's gonna go it in a dozen ballpark?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Chris mannis how many times is mannix? Six? Five?
Speaker 10 (30:20):
Maybe he didn't really come on anymore? Yeah, dude, he
big time? Do us just like Chrissy Tigan, all of
a sudden, everybody's too big?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah? Yeah, they leave us though, yeah they do. It's
like this is the sports nest, and you know I
would bring back food and feed everybody and then they
just eventually get their wings and then they fly away.
That's it, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
What about one of our new favorites, Benny Goodwill.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Benny Goodwill, Mike could carve out you know, five six
appearances he's entertaining when it comes on. How about Ross
Tucker over under? Forty appearances over there in three years?
Forty appearances Ross Tucker.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
That's almost once a month the next.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Three years, next three years, you can see that over
over which guest will be on more than any other
guest in the net in the next three years.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
It may be Ross Florio's up there, Albert Brears up there,
but those three will be in the mix.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
There.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Let me see, Oh Todd's gone his Thanksgiving Day names?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Oh now you get come to me withoutes?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
How many? How many do you have?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
I'll go through them pretty quick. I'm not gonna read
all them. I'm gonna go through the ones that I
think are the best.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Okay, maybe only here we.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Go, all right, an honor of our previous guest, Kenny
main course, But did we get him in there?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Don't explain keeping Lamar Autumn.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Lamar Autumn, that's cranberry sauce gardener.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
That's good obi toppings, that's good play Thurmond. No, we're
not William the Refrigerator, Perry Fat Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Oh he's not fat but.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
A dad Bond Mick Chubby.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
What does Lamar autumn mean?
Speaker 11 (32:17):
Lamar autumnate to thanksgivings and continue stool Leonards.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
That's not even accurate.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
You eat a lot, you know you gotta have a stool, Leonards.
Ricky Fowler This, I'm always been goodies, Jack Ham, Matt Turkey,
Matt Turk, Met Kevin Greevy. I know you remember Kevin Greevy.
This is Kevin Gravy from the Washington Books Days.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
Okay, Mark Eaton, Bud Black Friday, Nick Foliage, Goose Gossage
and Ceedee, lamb Houston, Nutmeg, Charlie green Bean, casser Lee
pie Trainer, Coco Crisp and cause you get the last
apple crisp. Native Archibald, I know you're like Native Archibald
from here Cincinnati Days, Ernest Givens, Tim McCarry, Mitchell, True Biscuits,
(33:02):
Entrell roll Yam Donald, Oh, I like Jam Donald, Eric
Butterbean Esh saying Mark Grace after meals Bud Black, Oh
you say before you could say something after Nights Bud Black, Friday, Colony, Kaepernick,
Hank Gathers, rest in Peace, Randall, Tex Cobbler, Plymouth, Rock Rains,
(33:25):
Rawley Feastwick, tastem Hills. That a taste the hill, taste
them Hill. You'll let me have that one, Rue Meal, Robinson,
fo More, Jack Kent, Cook, Bake McBride, Cornbread, Maxwell and
Carl Feathers and our sponsor.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
Steve Traeger from the Dodgers, Steve Traeger.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
That's what we got.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
But no, I know, I have to explain what I
have to say that people don't know what Stu Leonard's
is all over the country.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I don't think. Yeah, it's not everywhere, you know.
Speaker 10 (34:05):
Paul just brought up a good point. Do we have
two Thanksgiving names lists left?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Or is it three? Two?
Speaker 10 (34:16):
That'd be three now I got yeah, yeah, twenty five, six,
twenty seven, So we only have to do that three
more times.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
It's hopeful math.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
But then we also have three Christmas ones? Okay, over
under number.
Speaker 10 (34:27):
Will Todd add three new names to that list by
the end of year three?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yes you think he will? Yes, just barely, barely, barely.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
I'd say something in the four or five ranch.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
All right, anything you'd like to add. Todd, you were
you did a great job your contributions today.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
We had a lot of fun. This was a great
Thanksgiving Eve all together.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
And we'll go our separate ways for a few days
with family, and then we'll get back at it next Monday.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
All right, say something nice about us everybody in the room.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
You guys are kind and considered for the most part.
Speaker 11 (34:58):
Sometimes, oh my gosh, sometimes sometimes I take the snarkiness
or the meanest is the wrong way because I'm very sensitive.
But I think I think it's all done in love,
and ultimately we're all team players and here to bring
up the best in one another and wish good, happy
things for each other.
Speaker 10 (35:16):
That is the clip, by the way, that if we
needed to play a clip of audio from the show
for a therapist.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
That's the one that I would play. Thanks for all
the phone calls, emails, tweets, the all around support. We
have a lot of things to be grateful for, and
certainly you being our audience. Top of the list for
Todd Seaton, Marv Paulie, Here's truly have a great weekend.
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