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November 28, 2024 55 mins

C&R are in for DP! They talk Rich's Niners, can they go on a run, or is their window closed? The crew gets into a heated debate about the Dodgers "buying" championships! n Patrick! Do you still do the gym on a holiday? They have 'OLD-SCHOOL WHEN 50 HITS!' The guys share the most embarrassing family/friends drunk moments! Plus, could Sanders & his star QB son both land in Vegas?!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm not bringing this up just because I'm a Niners fan,
but I feel as though the rest of the NFC
should be rooting terribly hard for the Bills this Sunday
up in Buffalo. And I say this because sometimes you
want to shut the door on someone. And I know

(00:25):
it looks like the Lions the conference to lose. It
really is one Lions, Eagles, then a little behind that,
you'd say, maybe Vikings, Packers, and then there's a big
drop off. I don't really believe it anyone. Maybe the
Falcons if they get hot again. But it really is
like Lions, Eagles, Vikings and Packers. If one of those

(00:48):
teams turns it on, and then after that Vikings at
nine and two, I'm really downplaying them. I very well
might be, but the Niners at five and six are
only one game behind the I don't believe in at
all Arizona Cardinals, who I think they're going to get
stomped by Minnesota this weekend. In fact, I think Seattle
might lose to the Jets this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
That's also what you said right before the Cardinals beat
your Niners.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I don't want you to mention that again, But Danny,
I think that, honestly, NFCA team should be hoping that
the bill shut down the Niners because I think the Niners. Yeah,
but you come from this belief and standpoint that they're
going to turn it on or something.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Iybody showing you ability to turn it on at all.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, I think everybody's coming from that standpoint. You know,
I preft because they've out yardaged their opponents more than
anyone else in the NFL, and they lost three games
in the last minute. They also and they're what five
and six last in the NFC West. They got stopped
battling injuries all season. They got stomped by the Packers

(01:51):
when they were missing like five Pro Bowlers.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
That's the problem though, is that they can't stay healthy
right now, and health is key when you're down the
stretch in December in the NFL, bro health as well agreed.
I'm just saying, if you're an NFC fan, you want
the Niners out because I'll give you, like a Colin
Calhert type analogy, the forty nine ers, Stars, Stars and Stars.
Forty nine ers have Stars Dinner Stars, forty nine ers

(02:16):
are like chucole pudding pie.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, Jimmy, you let them, You let them on the table.
They may go all the way. It's a favorite. You
put that truckle putting pie on the table tonight. It's
the easiest deserve to make and it goes first. You
let the forty nine ers in the playoffs and they
get healthy, they could do damage. If you're an NFC fan,

(02:41):
you should want the Rams last year, you should want Buffalo,
or they're just not that good this year. And that's
what I'm getting. I mean, but when you're saying no
big tread one and three in the division, that is
bad math. Yeah, we've often given the the analogy of this.
When you watched the Mike Tyson Douglas fight, right, he
was the biggest favorite of all time, was at forty

(03:02):
two to one. Yeah, Yeah, we had this belief, this
delusion that Mike Tyson was unbeatable, invincible, kind of how
Rich feels about his forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
But truthfully, he.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Didn't have it that night and he lost the entire fight. Yeah,
he had one moment where he knocked Douglas down, But
if you watch that fight back, this whoof disass the
whole fight.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
I know you're saying. The perspective is.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
We had this belief that, Nah, he's still gonna come back. Ah,
he's Tyson, he's gonna come back, He's gonna win this fight. No,
he didn't. And that's your Niners this year. From our perspective,
you have this delusion that they're still good or something
this season.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I mean, they haven't played really good at all.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
That analogy, sadly is awesome because well, the forty nine
ers are Mike Tyson against Buster Douglas for a lot
of people, because you're thinking, well, no, they can't. Really,
we've been waiting for them to turn it around. They'll
turn it around, dude, you're already eleven games. We're already
in week thirteen. But it's getting late early.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, you and kidding and profet.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I'm just a sad optimist here because I think the
division is so bad that if the Niners do somehow
find the way to strap together some wins here, that
division is so mediocre.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Your problem is that the forty nine Ers are playing
a first place schedule while the Arizona Cardinals are playing
a fourth You have to play the Lions, the Bills
and the Dolphins, where like, meanwhile, the Cardinals are gonna
have another game against the Seahawks and then they play
the Panthers and the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
I think the map is against you no matter how
you slice it.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Rich is a fan of the forty nine ers. I'm
not hating on them by any means. I enjoy watching
the forty nine ers. I think you're judging them based
on their potential and where they should be playing. Yeah,
the math ape math, as Profet pointed out, and their
schedule is way tougher down the stretch. It's just if
you let the forty nine ers in. I just think

(04:56):
the NFC fan bases should say Buffalo, well put them
out of their misery this Sunday night, because if the
forty nine ers find a way to beat the Buffalo Bills,
maybe that's the little confidence boost they need. I think
you're big dreaming, bro hold On. I think the Bills
are gonna stock. I think they are gonna stock. Well,
hold On, forty nine ers have one of them still.
McCaffrey's eventually going to continue to get better, and you

(05:18):
know now that he's healthy, or it's just just like
it was a paces night. It's just not their year.
Forty nine Ers have still a solid run offense, better
than the Bills.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Trent Williams still a question mark.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Some are saying he's having a hard time walking, let
alone getting on the NFL field. But Danny g hit
me over the little meme, little text. This Sunday night
football in Buffalo. It's gonna be like four degrees snowy, windy,
and gross, which could end up being just run the ball,
run the ball, run the ball, and that could favor
Kyle Shanahan and the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I know I'm just big dreaming. Let me big.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Dream of the Bills better in bad conditions? Rich how
you feel about moving in it? How you feel about
Moody kicking in thirty mile per hour wins?

Speaker 4 (06:03):
How do you feel about getting disinvited for dessert tonight?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I ask your question, though, but I think the rest
of the NFC is sort of counting the forty nine
ers out. You're the only guy or real fans of
the forty nine ers. I still believe in that they
have a shot. Well as I'll blame you for that.
Kyle Shanahan said, we put ourselves in a tough bind.
You think profet's right, one to three in the division.
And that's the worst part because those three losses were

(06:31):
the three winnable games. If you look at the forty
nine ers six losses, I'm not some delusional guy that's
like the Niners are like so good. No, they got
stomped by a couple good teams, one without their quarterback.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
But those three losses.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Within the last minute of the game against three division
opponents stealed their fate. The forty nine Ers are not
playing good football, but they could very well be. I
know that sounds ridiculous. They could very well be eight
and three and not five and six if they finished
three games. They had every opportunity to finish. And that's
football for you. That rubber bands a bit in the

(07:08):
next season. But I only bring up the division thing
because as close as this division will be, you will
probably have some even in the best case scenario, you'll
have like very close equal wrecords between either the forty
nine Ers and either the Seahawks or the Cardinals. Then
tie breakers will no division tiebreaker just ends up killing it.
And you only have one division game left, which is
against the Cardinals, which, again, if everything goes right, for you,

(07:30):
that could be for the division and a winner get
in between Cardinals and forty nine ers. Well, the backup
rich and on the positive roast beat the Bills.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
That's where the wins on the table.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
They have to turn it around against the Bills. So
your phone calls, should the NFC be scared or be
rooting for the Bills to just put them out of
their misery?

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, because I think that all right.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
If you were have looked at asking, if you were
to look at the odds in Vegas of all the
Super Bowl team and odds, I think the long shot
bet that might be appealing would be I wouldn't know
what it is now, but the Niners who are under
five hundred are the team that if they turned it around,
that is a scary team with playoff experience. I think

(08:15):
the NFC should be saying shut them down. Just a
lot of ifs that aren't this season, you know what
I mean, help health wins just not there. Let's go
to Jeff in Rhode Island. Jeff, you're on Coveno rich
In for Dan Patrick.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
It's somebuddy.

Speaker 7 (08:30):
Hey Jeff, Hey guys, I'm a Niners fan out here
in Rhode Island, and I'm not delusional.

Speaker 8 (08:38):
This team has no shot of I mean, all we're
banking on is we're playing in a bad division, and
like you guys just said, the tiebreak is what's going
to kill us. I mean, I see it's just getting
blown out this week. And then I mean we've got
Detroit coming up. I mean, in this team, even if
they were a lookout and get in our help, our

(09:01):
special teams, our defense.

Speaker 7 (09:03):
I mean we can.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
We've been talking about it. What happens What happened to
the explosives? What happened to her playmaking abilities? The excitement,
the explosiveness hasn't been there the entire season. It's all
of a sudden going to be there against Buffalo in
bad conditions. Let me ask Jeff, Jeff and Rodelan, you're
a Niners fan like I am, what happened to the explosivess?
And does Deebo Samuel feel like he's lacking some type
of leadership or vibe on the field like what happened

(09:26):
to Debo?

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Absolutely, first of off, that they can't get any openings,
there's no space on that offense, and just that that
played last week with Deebo, that little trick play that
they threw the scream to.

Speaker 9 (09:41):
Normally he would take that to the house and he
got take him down.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
So I mean, and as far.

Speaker 9 (09:46):
As being a captain, I wish he had the fire
of a George Kittle or Fred Waner or a Jwon
Jennings because I assume Deebo is going to be gone
this year as well after this year.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
I mean, I think we've.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
You're right, you know, it could very well be the case.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
But to answer the question, I don't think anyone's scared,
you know, player for player, Yeah, you got a lot
of great players, But as far as the way your
team's playing, I don't think anyone's scared of the forty
nights I've heard I've heard this season that's no hate
at all.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I like one, if they were going to turn it on,
I would have expected them to turn a little bit earlier,
like the Eagles dead. The Eagles were a very uneven team,
but there was this point late until October where all
of a sudden they looked like a completely different team.
And now we're talking about them as being one of
the two best teams in the NFC.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, listen, I uh, the forty nine ers feel to
me like, uh, Rocky Balboa and Rocky three and when
he lost his eye of the tiger. Yeah, where's the fire,
d bo, where's the I got like I got like
a puffy hair dude, But I don't have the I
don't have the eye to tag. Absolutely no, like what

(10:53):
happened to a team that Listen, the forty nine Ers
entered this year. It's the last I'll harp on on
my team because there's a lot of other other NFL
to get to. But Rocky three is also when mister
T was hitting on Adrian Remember that kid with the
real man?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, I don't appreciate that, mister T. Absolutely no.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I the forty nine ers entering the season, there was
such a cocky vibe and I'll admit it by me
and other Niners fans.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Remember the whole stat of.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
They were not underdogs in any game this year, the
forty nine Ers, when they released the schedule preliminary the
preliminary look of the schedule is the Niners were favored
in seventeen of seventeen games that went well. You know
what I always thought about when you talked about lack
of leadership this season with you're forty nine ers, You

(11:41):
ever get in a situation in your relationship right where
things aren't getting done because you're just relying on the
other person to do it. But when it's just you,
it gets done. Meaning you're just living your life and
throughout the week the dishes are adding up in the sink.
Why are they adding up in the sink because you're
counting on your wife or your partner whoever, to put

(12:04):
him in the dishwash. She's counting on you to she's
counting on you to do it right. But when she's
not around, it's always done because you're not relying on
anybody else.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
I feel like there's so many.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Stars, so many stars and stars and stars and big
players in big eagles on your forty nine ers, that
everyone's counting on the other person to take.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
That leadership role, Like who's gonna s happen up by?

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like Deebo's like, well, I'm not the only leader here,
what about Kittle? Kittle's like me, what about the quarterback?
And Party's like me, I'm just prop party? What about
Bo's son? Like well what about this guy? They're like
that about the spider Man's pointing at each other? Yeah,
they're all pointing at each other, and no one's putting
a dish anyway. No one's taking that leadership role the
way they should be because of that, and what happened

(12:49):
to that defense that was feared is a defensive coordinator's fault.
Is Kyle Shanahan having a hard time finishing he? I mean,
you can't say he's the problem, right, I mean he's
one of the most sought after coaches.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Shake up on the defensive end in San fran next year,
we shall see. Let's go to Keto, We'll take his call.
We'll we'll move along Keto in Alabama?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Man? Hey, buddy, what's up?

Speaker 9 (13:11):
Boys?

Speaker 10 (13:12):
How are you doing this early morning?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Good man?

Speaker 4 (13:13):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Keto?

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Keto five?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (13:16):
I know, hey, I was looking at uh this point
spread of the Giants Cowboys game. Man that that's three
and a half. Just teasing me, man, I don't know.
Can the Giants do anything offensively? I just I don't know, man.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Well, do we have an update on is it? It's
a lot? Tommy Cutlets?

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
He is he out?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Cutlets is out with my side not lock lock. I'm
pretty sure the forearm. It's it was too much a
signaling for Tommy, you gotta get out.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Drew Locke spent most of the time with the first
getting those first team reps and uh and of course
the cutlets didn't travel with the team.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
It should have been his gig anyway, So all right,
well he has to step up today. He's worrying about
Thanksgiving charcuterie boards. Hey, let me ask you this though,
based on that Giants Dallas game, and I'm with you, Keto,
Dallas by three and a half, by a point minus
two and a half, you're wagering a little more. But
Dallas by two and a half, that seems like a

(14:15):
Thanksgiving present, a mere little early.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Black Friday sale, if you ask me.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
But if you're a Dallas Cowboys fan, ask yourself this
and we'll take a little feedback on this as well.
Eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox in for the
great Dan Patrick. If you're a Cowboys fan at this juncture,
what do you want? There are cowboys. There's two groups
of Cowboys fans that I seem to interact with. Half
of them are like, I think we could run the

(14:41):
table and go ten and seven or nine and eight
and then make this thing happen. And then there's other
Cowboy fans that are saying four and seven, let's lose,
let's revamp, get rid of McCarthy, Jerry Jones, got to
get some wayvos and make the right moves.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
If you're a Cowboys fan, which direction.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Do you want to go?

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Do you belie? Leave that there's hope? Here you went today?
You're five and seven.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
The Cowboys schedule coming up, Bengals, Panthers, Bucks, Eagles.

Speaker 9 (15:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I mean, lose to everything except maybe what was that
middle one that said the Bengals. I mean that's the wind.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
So your thoughts, Cowboys fans, what do you want? We'll
take your feedback next giving on rich and for Dan
Patrick right here on Fox Sports Radio. And now, I
think we talk about the Doyers, the Dodgers. A lot
of people, even our own Rob Parker, I believe, was
saying yesterday they're the new evil Empire.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
And I do believe that.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I think what we're seeing here is the Dodgers buying championships.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I do feel that way. Do you hear this coming
from a Yankees fan?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:53):
I do feel that way.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Look let's think about what happened this past week. They
signed Snell one hundred and eighty two million, five years.
He's thirty one years old, it'll be thirty six by
the end of that contract.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
You add him to an already potent.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Lineup, potent team, championship team, pitching staff. They're gonna get
that other Japanese dude they're trying to get. They're still
in the mix for Soto, Like give me, I don't
forget Otani will pitch. Yeah, So we also talked about yeah, yeah,
well here's the difference, he said, coming from a Yankees fan.
But I'm gonna tell you what I think the difference is.

(16:30):
And this is no hate.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
I'm not a Dodgers hater, not at all.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I live here in LA. I want to read a
tweet that goes along with this whole thought. Say Ben Verlander,
Ben Verlander, who the brother of Justin Verlander, who's a
great broadcaster at MLB Network. Ben Verlander. My favorite thing
about him is he had one preseason one spring training
at bat against his brother back in the day.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
And hit a home run. That's a cool moment.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
But Ben Verlander put on social media, are people really
that bothered by the snaw signing. Baseball is by far
the sport with the most parody in the US. Haven't
had a repeat winner since two thousand. Your Yankees could
be No seems people are upset before they have a
reason to be. Don't be mad at the Dodgers. Be

(17:16):
mad at your team for being cheap. And I agree
with that too. So I'm not mad at the Dodgers,
Danny G. I'm really not. I'm not at all. I'm
a Yankees fan. I'm not mad at Rich is mad.
But I'm confused if not a question any team for
spending money. But I will say this, here's the difference

(17:36):
between the Yankees when they were the Evil Empire and
the Dodgers, who are now the evil Empire. The Yankees
when they went on that run, which was magical, by
the way, and it gave me tons of false confidence
that I carry till this day.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Just by being a fan.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, just by being a fan, I felt like a winner.
Brought me to Fox Sports Radio all these years later, hmm.
Gave me something to cheer for. It did change my
life and outlook in a lot of ways. The Yankees
built around their homegrown talent, which led them to championships,
and it was always that that false narrative of the

(18:16):
Yankees buy championships. Really did they buy Derek Jeter? Did
they buy Andy Pettitt? Did they buy Mo Rivera? Did
they buy Jorge Posada? Did they buy Alfonso Soriano? Did
they buy all these These are homegrown people that were
talking about Robberie. They know they had the money to
keep them. No, they built around them. Though they built
around them. The Dodgers are just getting whoever they want

(18:40):
because they can. That's the difference. Am I mad at it?

Speaker 7 (18:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (18:43):
But there is a difference.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
So when you say they're the new evil Empire, they
are really what people were accusing the Yankees of being.
The Yankees were flooded with homegrown talent, flooded with it.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
The Dodgers got a few people.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Let me ask you, Coveno, Then why are the Dodgers
always ranked in the top three as far as farm
systems go.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
They're great and maybe they have a lot of great talent.
One of their stars here, Will Smith, Danny let Real's
a star. He's one of their stars.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Star.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
He had a few moments in the cornerstone of the team.
Andy has lux Miller, the Stars. What did the What
did the Dodgers do at the trade deadline? They got
flirty and edmund by using assets they had from the farm.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Okay, that's there, and that changed their posts.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
You don't see the difference of building around the homegrown
Core four and other Yankee homegrown talent. There's no rule
that says you have to be saying there's a new rule.
I'm saying there's a don't I don't understand that. This
is the difference between the old evil Empire and they're
the new evil Empire.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
The Dodgers really all are.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
The thing is they're not that hateable, which is why
I'm saying we gotta start hating on them.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
We gotta start hating on the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
Okay, so the bottom barrel MLB team, do they have
all homegrown talent?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
No, they gotta spend money. There has to be there
has to be obviously a salary floor, meaning you can't
just buy a team and use that as an investment.
You have to buy a team and be willing to compete,
be willing to spend money. So the teams that aren't
spending money, I agree with Ben Verlander all the way right,
But I also agree that the Dodgers are really overboard

(20:35):
with like, come on, it's not even fair at this point.
I'm not hating on them. I'm just saying we gotta
find reasons to hate them.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
I feel like they're smart with contracts. People make the
jokes about all the deferred money, but that's smart business,
all right.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
There's two questions at hand here. I love when you
guys go out it.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
This is fun. You're your feedback by the way, at
eight seven to seven nine nine on Fox. There's two
layers here. Layer one, do you see a difference between
the nineteen nineties Yankees evil empires? If you're saying they're
the new evil empire, compare them to the old one. Well,
let me finish the damn statement the nineties Yankees versus
the twenty twenties Dodgers. And I hate to have Covinos

(21:16):
back on this as a Mets fan, but the Yankees
were just able to keep their homegrown stars. So when Jeter, Soriano, Pisada,
Mo Rivera, when those contracts were up, those players opted
to stay with the Yankees. You look at the Dodgers
lineup that just won the World Series. Freddie Freeman not homegrown,

(21:38):
Mookie Betts not homegrown, sho hal Tani not homegrown, Yamamoto
not homegrown. Now, Blake Snell not homegrown. The Stars you
could say will Smith and Lux and that's cute and all,
but that's really cool. Don't give me your seven eight
nine in lineup and say you're your team's homegrown.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
You're gonna have a few.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
But I don't blame it because I'm a Mets fan.
I want Juan Soto. But just let's call a spade
a spade. That's that's all I'm saying. I'm not mad
at it. That's just how the god is. If I were,
if I were Major League Baseball, if I was a
star player, I'd want to go play for the Dodgers
in sunny California.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
I think I think I have to like throw in
something as far as they hate. I don't personally hate
the Dodgers, by I know plenty of people who do.
Because you bring up the deferred thing. The problem is
with shohe Atani, that's like where where else?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
What other?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (22:23):
You know, the organization can really get away with that,
with this idea of deferred and that is where the
inherent power of something like a New York or in
La comes in versus a lot of other places in
the rest of the country. At the end of the day,
I I mean, I don't whatever. I I'm mostly on
Ben Verlanders's side. You suck because you don't spend money.
We'll spend money. You bought this team not as a

(22:44):
not as some vanity thing, but actually it's like you know,
there's plenty of fans who see how much money the
Dodgers are thrown around, and that is a problem no matter.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
What they we We talked about this on our afternoon
show a couple of days ago. They should be adding
potential owners in all sports because we realize that sports,
much like real estate, there's certain things in life you
can invest in and you're gonna get great returns. Why
do you think celebrities and all these big time big
rollers want to invest in sports teams because it's clear

(23:15):
the investment is a no lose if you want to
buy a franchise and you're a billionaire. They need to
be convincing that I want to compete. This is not
just a paper investment for me. I want to win.
I'm not just saying because I'm a Mets fan, but
Steve Cohen is the ideal owner. Fan billionaire wants to win.

(23:39):
Mark Cuban wants to fan billionaire wants to win. You
have to understand, these are the very expensive toys. They're
not your trust fund. They're now, They're not in investments
so you can make a profit off of the gate.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
They are here for you. They are they're lost leaders.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's what I'm saying, dude. There's there's thirty or thirty
two spots in all sports now to be an owner.
Can I make a point to.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
If you're one of those thirty people are groups, you
better be able to win it.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
This is not sour grapes at all. The Dodgers beat
the Yankees in the World Series. Okay, I'm a Yankees fan,
fair fine, but this is really starting to feel with
the Blake Snell thing, with the potential other accu uh acquisitions.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
It is every big name that comes out of the
market they get.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
It's starting to feel like now the Dodgers are buying a.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Championship has starting pitchers in the In the World Series,
they use a bullpen.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
This is really what again the Yankees were being accused
of the Yankees had Bernie Williams, they had all these
you know, homegrown people. The Dodgers do not have that.
So to compare them to even come up with a
new name, because the Yankees were the evil Empire, this
is something else I thought.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
I thought it was sour grapes when people talked like
this about the Yankees, and it still feels that way.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
There's a different years later difference. There's a huge difference.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
No, there's not.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
There is just a tosalized hating of Yankees. There's a
called those damn Yankees.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
But the Dodgers are famously known for their farm system.
To say that they don't grow their own talent, well
then they're gonna get other players because they're not playing.
But they're not playing, all right, so everybody can grow
all right again.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Ernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Robinson Cano, Marianna Rivera, Andy.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Pettitt, these are all. Clay Kirshaw the Dodgers pitch. He
didn't even play.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I'm not talking necessarily.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Want everyone who was part of the championship team this
year was purchased and that's all they're doing again. Yeah,
will Smith had a few moments, no doubt, but there
is a major difference. I'm not mad at it, but
let's be honest about it. Let's be honest about it.
And if you want to compete against the Dodgers who
are buying whoever they want, you gotta be a Mets fan.

(25:56):
You gotta be a Giants fan, of Red Sox fan,
a Yankees fan. Otherwise you're not gonna, which is why
these smaller market teams have to spend money. They have
to spend money to compete. When you see a young
star on a team and Danny and Kavino, I see
both your points, meaning if you have a good farm
system and you use those pieces to get another player,
that's part of what makes a great front office in

(26:17):
a franchise. But let's say the Padres take it away
from our teams. Do you look at Fernando Tattists Junior
and Machado differently, meaning Tattists Junior was a guy that
came up through the Padres versus Machado was a guy
they just threw money out. Or do you say no,
that equal footing. Do you look at the Mets and say, hey,

(26:38):
Pete Alonso came up through the Mets organization versus if
they go after Soto or when they got Lindor.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
I think the Padres are a great example of you
can buy if you want to say that players, and
it still may not work out. There's a lot of
other factors that go about and when the Dodgers would
fall on their face in the past in the postseason,
nobody was complaining about their spending.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Now suddenly it's a problem.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Because it doesn't it feel that way a little bit,
it's not starting to.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
There's a lot of other factors now. I think perception
is absolutely something. Once again Blake Snell comes up. Everyone wonders,
real last it was gonna land immediately with the Dodgers
show Atani immediately with the Dodgers. It's just can't wrap
up too many guys when you just keep vacuuming up
over and over and over, because then at some point
you're going to get that label, no matter if it's

(27:27):
right or not, that you're buying a championship.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think what put me over the top, Danny, and
we'll take your feedback next at eight seven, seven, nine
nine on Fox will put me over the top because
for a while I was like, hey, listen, the Dodgers
are just doing what other teams do right same. But
when Soto's name also popped up with the Dodgers, I'm.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Like, are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Like, because then I'm thinking Freeman, oh Tani, Mookie.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Now, Sodo, like Jesus.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Mostly got this feeling with Yamamoto when that happened, It's
like you just got Shoyo Tan, you need Yamamoto two.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
It's like you're throwing your hair. You're like, come on,
Danny and brace.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Sodo also wants to win. He was the last one
there on the railing watching the Dodgers celebrate.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
He does you know what we got phone call, We
got people on hold. We're gonna take all your feedback. Now,
let's go old school. We do this every Thursday. Let's
do it.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
There's a certain.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
What we gonna do is go back.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Back into town.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Throwing it back for a Thursday. Old School went fifty hits.
That's fifty after CNR give you the time capsule topic
and we reminisce together.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
All right again, you heard it. We do it every Thursday,
our regular time. Like Andy said, two to four on
the west, five to seven on the east, or just
search Covino and Rich be a part of it. Wherever
you stream your podcast, we appreciate it. In for DP,
we go old school when fifty hits on the clock.
But we ran late because we're debating about the Dodgers
and Yankees, and you could still continue at Cobino and Rich.

(29:02):
Last night used to be dean the biggest party night
of the year, but as Rich established on our Patreon show,
a lot of young people don't even go out.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
They don't meet at the bar.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Why go out and overpay for drinks when you could
just meet people on apps and website.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Clubs and bars.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Are struggling a little bit because the younger generation's like,
I'm not gonna spend all that money, and they just
you know, start swiping and they randomly meet up for booty.
But I still think, based on some graps I saw too,
that last night, Wednesday Night, the biggest party night of
the year, is still blackout Wednesday. Yeah, one of the
biggest drinking nights of the year. So even if you

(29:41):
stayed home, people are like, yeah, tomorrow's Thanksgiving, I'm boozing
watching the Penguin or whatever you did.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Honest up, did you see the Penguins? Oh yeah, you
got white con here we go the Penguin.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, you know, life hasn't set up for guys like
me and you got set up for guys like you
and me.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
They got a white con Get your hands done. How
about that ending rich? You want me to tell you
about it?

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Oh, I'm up to episode six. I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Penguin and uh Man on the Inside with Ted Danson
on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Two great shows to check out. Anyway, We're gonna take
over the city, you, me and you when.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
You talk about going old school, especially he said on
that Wednesday, that was the night where everyone did get
a little uh tipsy, little tipsy, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go
out to the local bar, the local haunt, catch up
with some old friends, try to hook up with that
that chick who used to be real hot in high school.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
She's not as hot as she used to be, so
now you have a chance. That's troke. But even if
you didn't go out.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Last night, they still say it's the biggest drinking night
of the year, and that probably carries into today and
the rest of the weekend. Right it's a holiday weekend,
fair enough, so that got us thinking old school. In
fifty hits, some of those embarrassing moments it could be
you could be a family member. Time to come clean
and confess and tell us your story of when someone

(31:01):
in your family or like I said, maybe it was
you did something stupid, said something stupid, embarrassed themselves in
an alcohol induced incident. Well I have I have two
personal stories. I'll leave out names so that no one's humiliated.
Maybe it was an embarrassing conflict, but let us know
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox those family fights

(31:25):
and we're not even getting into like the life and
political fights. I'm sure that are gonna happen at dinner
tables tonight. Yeah, you know what, let's do a service
and remind everybody. Don't even bring it up. But that's
why alcohol is usually the reason why it still comes out.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
You know these things. Don't bring it up.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's why President Trump does. Stop it either way, don't
say anything. So here, here's here's the two stories that
comes to mind from me. I got two quickies and
we'll take your feedback. Those drunk embarrassing family holiday moments.
One of my exes her parents didn't talk to a
whole side of the family, and I'm like, why not.

(32:06):
Apparently they went to a holiday dinner and it was
raining out and this is ridiculous. They knock on the
front door and the rain like let us in, we're here,
and like the guy that was hosting was buzzing. He
opened the front door. He was like, I know, your
feet wet in the house. Walk around to the back door,

(32:27):
and like it's raining. The fact that this drunk guy
made the family walk around to the other door.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
They hadn't talked in twenty years.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
We're never coming here again. Well, you know what it
is too. This is a coast guess made us walk
to the back door because he is. And I was like, wait,
so your parents don't talk to that whole side of
your family because your uncle was drunk and he made
people walk around the side.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I'm not saying it's just an East Coast thing. I'm
sure this happens all over, but especially in the East Coast.
A lot of families don't use their front door. They'll
use the side door. Yeah right, because you park your
car or whatever you come through the back. But it's
a holiday, this dud's but instead of just letting them in,
it's raining out. And the other story is I wish

(33:14):
I could say who it is because I really don't care,
but I'll just say a family member's wife. Okay, a
family member's wife. Okay, got really drunk. Oh yes, Juicy
got really drunk uncharacteristically and started telling the family. You know,
when I broke up with our family member in college. Okay,

(33:38):
So now she's calling out your family member in public.
So this is this is a call out. You know
when we broke up. She was a relative of mine's wife. Okay,
you know when we.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
First started dating in college. You know, we broke up
for a while.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
And I think everyone's like, oh, yeah, you guys did
break up for a while, she says out loud.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
I don't know if he knows, but I slept with
three of his roommates.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh my god, is that when you take an extra
bite of stuffing past the past the candy Yams place.
That's that's when I remember, you know, when you make
eye contact with your wife and you're like, oh, his roommates.
I'm thankful to the story right now, It's like, please,

(34:25):
how embarrassing for your family member to be thrown under
the bus like that in a drunken moment.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
But I love that.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I remember later that night, pulling aside my sister and
being like, you did she say what? I think I
heard her say?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh yeah, our buddy anchor hit me up at Covino
and Rich at Steve Cavino at Rich Davis, and he
sent me a video. He's like, this happens a lot, right,
there's always It's true. No family's immune to that. One
person could be like an in law could be you know,
one of the others. I call him the others. You

(34:57):
know how everybody has like freaky family members. They show
up on holiday time, they make an ass in themselves,
they drink a little too much. Everybody has these stories.
He sent me a video because cousin Dave passed down
in the family room.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
No one's above it, guys. So that's why this is funny.
He sent me a video of this little girl's Kinsinetta,
and it's this girl's special moment. It's like a sweet
sixteen Fox Sports Radio Nation, right, and you see this girl,
she's about to do her little dance routine, and you
see the drunk deal El Bonacchio stumbling in in the

(35:33):
middle of the dance floor, and you're like, oh no,
this is bad. And then he falls on her and
collapses right there in the middle of the dance floor
at her special birthday party. It's so embarrassed, sounds like
sounds like a scene out of a Stars Born, remember,
But I feel like I've seen something like that in

(35:53):
my life, right when with Bob and LaBamba. Yeah, so
you're drunken. Family moments that you can look back, can
sort of laugh at. And there's one that comes to
mind for me, the one I just described was a
video I saw. I'll never forget it was. It was
a wedding, right and again you know, people are boozing
and schmoothing. It's a wedding, so fair game and this

(36:14):
stuff happens.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
That's life. I remember We're at.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
A wedding, family wedding and one of the drunk cousins,
drunk deos, one of my uncles, had just a little
too much, and you know he's wearing his suit and
cumber Bunny's part of the wedding. Dude sure enough, like
ties around his head. You know, when it ties around
the head, that's a great indicator that maybe he's boozing

(36:41):
a little too Like remember Greg Olsen at a McCaffrey's.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Remember if you look like Greg Olsen at McCaffrey's wedding.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
If you've never seen that, if you've never seen the
photo or you don't know the reference, look it up.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
His hair's all messed up. He looks like you want
to invite him to your wedding, all right.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Right, he looks like he was partying a little too
hard at their wedding anyway, drunk uncle has to tie
around his head and by the end of the song
that's pretty much all he was wearing because he started
doing a strip tease and embarrassing the bride and groom.
Like somebody stopped this guy because it was a slow
motion nightmare where everyone's like just watching and he's trying.

(37:21):
He's just trying to, I don't know, put on a
show for everybody. But he drank too much and he's like,
oh no. But looking back, you're laughing at those Oh
he thought he was magic, Miguel, Yeah, you're oh my goodness,
what is going on?

Speaker 4 (37:34):
If you got an.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Embarrassing drunk family holiday stories? But it sounds funny, but
the bride was like not happy. She probably mortified exactly.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yeah, I have a brother in law who likes to
tip it back. Any family function I've been at now
with my wife, he's family. We know, like, Okay, this
guy's going to invade your personal space. Oh he's gonna
smell like post talker. Well, you're gonna get some of
his spit.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
On your lip.

Speaker 6 (38:05):
We got married in Hawaii a couple of years back.
In the dinner the night before the wedding, he shook
things up. He walks in wasted, and this is the
first time my family is meeting him. He gets right
in their face. He's just causing a scene. The waitress
comes over. We're near the bar, and he calls her over.
He's like, give him in another one, and he says,

(38:25):
and this guy's getting married tomorrow, give him a lap dance,
right now, Give a lap dance, waitress. Yeah, so drunk,
he thought we were at a strip club. He kept
he kept harassing the waitress to give me lap dances.
Finally he sees that nobody wants him there. He stumbles up.
But we see him at the what's the desk called

(38:46):
when you first walk into the reception area. Yeah, and
he's talking to the girl and stuff. When we see
him stumble out turns out he paid the bill for
the whole dinner before he left. Oh yes, if you're
gonna be a drunk buffoon, pay the bill in a
drunken stupor. He paid the bill before he left.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
So it's a drunken kindness. I like how it It
was a great story. He would have never did that sober.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
A crazy drunk moment with a happy ending.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Well, it's I've had drunk moments with happy I thinks.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
This guy, by the way you're talking about the the
guy acted a full reminds me of a wedding singer.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Steve, that's the best. That might be the best scene.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Better Man, one last quickie and then we'll get back
to NFL and a couple of your stories.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I got what tupap? What does he say? I got feelings?

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I got feelings, feeling stupid, Best Man, Better Man, Steve Buemi.
So again, look, the reminder is, don't be this guy tonight,
and don't be embarrassed either, because it happens to everybody,
every family, all the time, everywhere. These moments happen. It's
a part of life. If you could look back and laugh,

(39:57):
that's what it's all about. Not not so much, but
just a REMINDERR. Can I give everyone a remind her?
As state by state, you know, marijuana is more legal
in most places, so it's not a taboo conversation anymore.
When I first met my wife, I went to her
family's house for Thanksgiving. So this is a Thanksgiving story.

(40:18):
Oh wow, oh you want to hear the turkey song.
So one of my wife's family members before dinner pulls
me aside to get to know me, like, oh, you're
Sarah's new boyfriend, and I'm just trying to fit in
with her family down in Texas. They pulled me in
the backyard. The family member lights up and starts smoking,

(40:41):
and they you want a come on?

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, what do you do?

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Seeing no?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
So, you know, being like I want to fit in there.
I'm not like I'm no prude.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I'm like, yeah, sure, it's like you can't but you
must whatever, strain of whatever I took a little of.
I sat down at the dinner table Danny, and it
was one of those everything anyone said. I thought they
were like Dave Chappelle. I thought they were like yes,
side felt I was. I was in giggle modes. Like
my wife's mom was like pass the potatoes. I'm like,

(41:15):
I had to excuse myself, go to the bathroom and
like splash water in my face, like hato. I was like,
compose yourself, potato, compose you yourself, you idiot. Like I
remember having tato with one of those funny words, say
that allowed potato.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Yeah, it was ridiculous. So we've all had them.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
That's really funny though, So your feedback, your calls, and
of course more NFL fun Thanksgiving, we'll go over today's games,
and of course a little peak at week thirteen of
the NFL. More Cavino rich and for Dan Patrick. Next,
select this. Greg Allen hit us up with a funny meme.

(41:52):
You know the picture where Livy Dunn's all excited and
Paul Sken's is like emotionless when he won Rookie of
the Year. Yeah, it's a Dodgers fans Livy Dunn Paul
Skean's rest of MLB. Oh, yeah for sure, I wouldn't
be supposed to. Dodgers try to get Paul Skans. They're
trying to get everybody right now. So anyway, we debated
that if you missed anything, scoobl and skiings to the

(42:14):
Dodgers shit us up exactly at Covino and Rich at
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
Now you've heard the breaking news too, right, Oh no,
what the Dodgers have just signed the rematch for Tyson Paul.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
I knew it. I knew it. By the way, that
is a rumor.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
There's a rumor that his Excellency Turkey Ala Shekh, the
guy who puts on all these fights in Saudi Arabia,
the guy with endless amounts of money like your Dodgers,
there's a rumor that he wants to pay I don't
know if there's any truth. This a rumor online rumor,
which means probably not true. But I ain't beating the

(42:55):
smoke before, and it turned out to be real. He
wants to pay Mike Tyson ate one hundred million dollars
for the rematch Jake Paul with no script is what
they're saying.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
No script and no.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Rules of uppercuts and fourteen ounce gloves and things like that.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
How many of those things were rumors?

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Right?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Like you know, Jake Paul's promotion company came out and
said there's nothing fixed about it.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
That would be illegal.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And I don't believe it was fixed. I'm just telling
you what they're saying or what's going on, and the
real story is Ryan Garcia is also calling out Jake
Paul because he can't fight for another year, so he's
taken on these exhibition fights. He fights in December, and
he's fighting Ampo in December, the guy that beat Pochon
in an exhibition. But he said he wants Jake Paul

(43:43):
next and he vows to end his career.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
That would be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
But yeah, hey there's a lot of money out there,
so maybe we'll see some bigger fights as a result. Now,
thank you guys for your phone calls and all your
feedback at Covino and Rich and if you have any
more drunk family stories, oh yeah, please, we got hit
up by a lot of people. Well they'll take those
throughout the day. I have a question for you, being

(44:08):
that today is all about family, Well, then set up
for guys like you owe me Vic. When you're thinking
about your family, the people closest to you, how about
a father son h prime time, Dion Sanders and should
a Sanders. This little moment in time where the last

(44:30):
season or so Colorado was so relevant for the first time,
it may be our lifetime right, had me too, Nick Danny,
It's fair to say first time Colorado is that relevant
in college football for a long time. Yeah, where do
you see the fate of both of these men going?
Do you think father and son will both be in

(44:51):
the NFL next year? And if so, same place, different
place is primetime deonce and there's a possible coach for
the Dallas Cowboys, all the Raiders eyeing up his son,
like where do you see I think, yeah, I think
they are a package deal.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
What do you see the.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Sanders essentially in twenty twenty five, because they're sitting at
that Thanksgiving table today, happily hanging in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
But I feel like that is a that we're going
to look back and be like.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Hey, remember when remember in Colorado had some uh buzz
Travis Hunter Shador and Dion Like to me, next year
that all changes. I think wherever Dion goes, his son goes.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
How do you.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Orchestrate that it's not Lebron and his son. I don't
think it can be that easy. I just think he
pulls those strings.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
Well, if you want to believe what Dion says, I'm
not sure how much of this he's being honest about
but he says this is where his relationship ends, as
far as bringing his son all the way to the top, Like,
you go your direction, make a name for yourself in
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I don't need to be a part of that.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
But then on the other hand, Ice Cube was interviewing
Deon Sanders last week and throughout the idea of both
of them coming to Las Vegas, and Dion smiled and
shook his hand, and so the body language was like, yeah,
I could, I could be down there.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
I saw that.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, So that's where I'm coming from, Like, I think
that's a strong possibility, because even though I believe what
you're saying, I believe what he says. Hey, he's his
own man, and this is where it ends. That doesn't
mean you deny that opportunity too, if it was positioned
to you now, if it was proposed. I'm not saying
it can't work. I'm not saying it's a good idea

(46:32):
or bad idea.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Maybe you will.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I'm I'm not avoiding a tough stance on this. But
father son combos working together in pro sports. I immediately
think of Doc Rivers and Austin Rivers. I think of
I mean, they were both players, so you could say,
you know, the Griffies, you could say Lebron and his
son and now you know he's in the Jet League.

(46:57):
Is it awkward to think Dion would coach his rookie
son in the NFL. That just seems that doesn't seem right.
I don't know, it just seems like the dynamics.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Fine, I'm a fight fan.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
How often do you see the trainers? I mean it's
a lot. That's an individual sport.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
I'm saying that. What I'm saying like, what's the dynamic?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
If he's the head coach, there's still quarterback coaches, offensive coaches,
defensive coordinators, defensive coaches, Like, you're still you know what
I mean, They're still playing under different coaches. I think
we look past it when it's Colorado and it's like, yo,
primetime legend is coaching a college that was trash he
turned the program around. But if it's the Raiders where

(47:41):
the Cowboys or a team with legacy and history, is
it almost even though it's primetime Dean Sanders and clearly
his son has shown sparks of talent for sure. Is
it a little too gimmicky for the NFL to do
their version of Lebron and Bronni after the Lebron and
Brownni thing.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Or is that the buzz the team like the Raiders
in Vegas.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
I mean there's a big difference though, because you've got
potentially a number one draft big that's true, and you're
comparing him to a player that belongs in the G League.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
You're right, Schandor and Ronnie not same category.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Fair.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I'm just saying, is that too circusy for the NFL?
Or is that just what a team like the Raiders
would need if all of a sudden, Tom Brady, you know,
and the ownership and management and all the Raiders front
office get together and say, Yo, we're in Vegas. This
team has been a bottom dweller for some years now.

(48:38):
I think what Dean Sanders said, it holds a lot
of weight, Like, if it doesn't happen, then it doesn't.
I'm not getting in the way of that. But if
it does, then that's great. I think that'd be highly marketable.
I don't think that's cheesy or corny in anyway. Like Mark,
there's a good chance to if it didn't happen now,
that it could happen in the future. Anyway, if they
both are in the NFL. If you look at Mark

(49:00):
Davis right now, yeah, clearly, when he's trotting tom Brady
around the hallways, it's almost like he's shown off like
his hot girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
He loves it.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
You've seen the videos like when Mark Davis tom Brady. Yeah,
I mean he's got to sit down. I don't think
he's you know, wearing a sweater around his pants.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
You want your.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Wife or girlfriend to look at you the way Davis
except Tom Brady. So I'm saying you add other high
profile cool you know guys at swag like Primetime and
draft his son?

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Is that the vibe?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
I ask you, Danny of the Raiders fan, Yeah, would
that make you and Raiders nation thrilled? Or wo they
be a lot of like, oh, come on, what's with
this gimmick Deeon and his kid? Or is that a
totally welcome scenario in Vegas?

Speaker 6 (49:45):
I mean you mentioned you said bottom dwellers, but they
did make the playoffs in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty one,
which wasn't that long ago. But they are wildly inconsistent.
One season, in one game, they'll look great and they
come out with so much energy and so much effort,
and then the next game, like when they had their
home opener this past season in Vegas against the Panthers,

(50:08):
they'll come out completely flat and look like the worst
team in the NFL. So what they need is stability
rich and Yeah, a guy like Deon Sanders could definitely
bring that to a team.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Does Dion keep the silver beard?

Speaker 2 (50:20):
So it's silver and black, that's silver look, So that's
appropriate if he does. Yeah, I thought was in the
AFC West, you need to do something to make noise
because the Chiefs are not going anywhere. Yeah, they're getting older,
but they can very well repeat this year. The Chiefs
are a dynasty. Then you got Harbaugh, who changed the

(50:41):
culture in Los Angeles, or the Chargers. They're headed to
the postseason, likely the Denver Broncos Sean Payton. At first
it was like, uh, oh, what a mistake. Now it
looks like, oh, he just needed a year to get
it together. You're in a division that is highly competitive.
I think the Raiders need to do something a little
high profile and maybe even a little gimmicky and flashy.

(51:05):
And I think Raiders Vegas doesn't that. I think does
that wreek of like Dion and his son, if they
could pull that on gimmicky and flashy. I don't think
we'd be thinking that at all if we hadn't dealt
with the whole Lebron situation and how poorly it was
sort of handled or viewed by the public, right, Like, come.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
On, it's unfair.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I mean, if you went Bronnie to a potential top
draft pick, I'm not seeing you comparing it. But it's
it's that moment and that feeling we got from watching it,
which is why it feels gimmicky. Went In fact, I
don't think it would be gimmicky at all. You got
two superstars who wouldn't welcome that to their franchise. You know,
I think you're just basing that on the feeling we
were left with with the Lebron James Bronnie James situation.

(51:50):
And I know there's still a sweet situation in scenario,
and I'm glad we got to see it. But if
that didn't exist and it was just Dion Sanders and
his so right now, you'd just be pumped about it period.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Rich.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
I feel like this would be more so if Lebron's
son was Dalton Connect, an upcoming star in the professional
who By the way.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
He's looking great. Huh.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
He looks like the seal of the Draft. He was
great again last night. So yeah, there's there's a bit
of a difference here. You don't want a side show.
But to Covino's point, this could work. And to your
point in Vegas, that is a city where they need
things for billboards there because this is going to run
out really fast. We already see way too many colors
of the opposing teams in the stands. Mark Davis is

(52:34):
going to lose a hold on what he's trying to
build there if he doesn't turn the ship around quickly.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I've been in a highly competitive division and a highly
competitive NFL. I think there's a different layer here because
while I'm not comparing it to Lebron and Bronni and
Griffy and Griffy Junior, it's it's harder to get two
players on the same team. If the Raiders could somehow
get that pick one or pick to and get Shador,

(53:02):
then signing a coach, that's up to you, so you
don't have to. It's not as tricky as what I'm saying.
If the I mean the Cowboys signed Dak so that's
not gonna happen. But I'm thinking where Dion could land
or who would want Dian That's that's a signing, that's
not You have to hope it happens in the draft.
If you're the Raiders and you have to pick one
or two, you're gonna get sad or Sanders if you

(53:24):
want him.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
And he wants Vegas. And then you know he trains
with Tom Brady during the off season, and.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
You see he's like Tom Brady's like an uncle dam Yes.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
And then after every way a forgot loss, After every
Raider loss this season, he has tweeted out the praying
hands saying thank God because.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
He wants to be drafted in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
That's why, you know, I forgot the whole I mean, Natty,
you mentioned that. Of course I remember the relationship, but
that's just another like solid reason as to why that's
a possibility.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
So I forgot about that.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
When you talk about.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
All the great storylines in the NFL, and we we
talk about this frequently, how the NFL continues to just deliver,
it's what the NBA is missing.

Speaker 10 (54:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
We talked about NBA ratings going down. There they're missing
storylines you know, it's it's it's lost a little uh,
little swag, little little flavor, whatever's going on in the NBA,
the NFL. What a great storyline that would be next year?
And again it could be all pipe dreams that never
happened at all. But if somehow the Raiders who The

(54:23):
worst thing for the Raiders is irrelevance because the Raiders
are a really historic franchise. I mean, every kid had
their damn starter jacket, Marcus Allen even before that, Jim
Plunkett and John Madden.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
They have an organization that.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
What's one of the coolest, right did you forget bo
Jackson and Bo Jackson Bo Jackson. Yeah, this could be
the coolest story since Yogi and Dale bearra in the eighties.
But it really really could. It could bring it could
bring the Raiders back to their coolest moment since maybe
when they had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice and you know,
the Raiders haven't felt relevant to me in a while.

(54:59):
And talk about relevant, if you had Dion and his kid,
I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but man, that would
be pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, I don't think there's anything there's flash there because
Dion comes with flash. But I don't think it's cheesy
at all.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
It's also Las Vegas, the city of Flash.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
That's what I mean. I think it's a good vibe.
Your thoughts at Covin on Rich eight, seven, seven, nine
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