January 8, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan breaks down Tom Brady's situation with the Raiders. Will he be a "one-and-done" with broadcasting after this season? Chase Daniel discusses the NFL coaching situations and gives his surprise pick for the NFL playoffs this weekend. Mike Florio adds on to the Brady situation and gives where he thinks Aaron Rodgers could end up after this season.
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The video is apocalyptic.
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Some of the news broadcast I'm watching with what's happened
in California, Los Angeles, Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It's one thing when you get out of your house
and you're safe and you've evacuated, but you still lost
your house. And that video it is it is really
really tough. It's it's devastating in more ways than one.
So the firefighters, thank God for them. And I always
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think about this, you know, whenever you're in a hometown,
you're small town and you see the firefighters out there
and they'll have that day where they have their boots
and they're collecting money. Think about that next time. Just
think about that next time with those great people. But uh,
you know, well, this feels like it's a yearly thing
that goes on an annual thing. Unfortunately with California and
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these winds are whipping, I mean eighty ninety miles per hour,
you're not sure where to go even when you evacuate.
Talking to a friend last night at two in the
morning my time, and he said, I don't know where
to go in the which direction said, it's scary, so
the proverbial thoughts and prayers, but certainly more than that,
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whatever that is, certainly more than that. But really really
that you watch and you're like, that is real, and
that's happening right now. It's almost like from a movie set.
But it's not all right.
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Chase Daniel, the former quarterback. He'll join us from now.
He's driving up from San Diego to Los Angeles and
he works for Fox Sports one. So hopefully Chase will
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be okay commuting from San Diego up there with the fires.
Mike Florio on the comings and goings here of you know,
Antonio Pierce gets fired. I was not surprised that he
got fired. This has Tom Brady's fingerprints all over it.
In my opinion, as a minority owner, if I'm Mark Davis,
it'd be crazy not to use Tom as the sounding
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board to say what do you think we should do,
how do you think that we should approach this, and
what coach do you have in mind?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So Florio will join us a little bit later on
as well.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Got a poll question, Play of the Day, stat of
the Day eight seven to seven three DP show operator
Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Got a
big basketball game tonight. It'll be the Thunder against the Cavaliers.
Thunder the best in the West, the Calves the best
in the East. That's National TV. And then you'll have
Spurs in the Bucks so you got Wemby against the
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Greek freak. So maybe basketball will take the spotlight and
showcase some great talent, some great teams there coming up
later on tonight. Back to Antonio Pierce being fired, I
didn't think he was going to keep his job because
of Tom Brady coming in. Now, if they had the
number one pick, then I thought, sure, he's not gonna
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keep his job. It's you want to come in, Okay,
let's start. Let's start with a coach and maybe we
get a quarterback here. I thought they were gonna go
all in on Michael Pennox last year. Now they could
have gotten bow Nicks, but they got Rock Bowers, who
is gonna finish runner up and Rookie of the Year.
He was great, But you gotta find your quarterback. Now,
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imagine if you had your quarterback. I mean that's another thing.
When you look at Rock Bowers and Malik Neighbors. They
put up these unbelievable seasons with bad quarterback play, which
makes it like if you're grading it on a curve,
Damn that's impressive. So here are the Raiders with the
sixth pick. Now, it's not a heavy quarterback draft. You're
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gonna have cam Ward, who right now is the favor
to be the number one pick. If the Titans hold
on to it, then Shadoor Sanders. Then you're gonna have
Jalen Milroe at some point. But if you're the Raiders,
are you going to get maybe somebody in free agency?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Now?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I was talking to somebody, a former TV executive who
is well connected with the owners around the league, and
I'm talking to him about a couple of things, and
I said, would the Raiders kick the tires on Aaron Rodgers?
He said, well yes, and he goes, I would too,
because Aaron respect for Tom Brady. Raiders, you're playing inside.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Half of your.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Games are going to be now granted you're in the
AFC West, but if you want to do that bridge
quarterback there And I said, okay, Like, I just I
can't get into the Aaron Rodgers business now.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I just can't.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And I know those are respectable numbers that he put up,
but there's just so much more that's going to go
with this.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, are you like, what do you have and you
bring him in? What do you like? What are your expectations? Hey,
let's win five games.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Hey, it doesn't matter what our record's going to be
peop who are still going to show up.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We're a tourist destination.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't know what the mindset would be for the
Raiders that how quickly do they want to win? But
if Tom Brady's involved in this, Tom Brady, he's not
used to losing, and that's what I think. How do
you expedite this? Does he bring in Mike Rabel? Does
Mike Rabel? And this is another thing I asked the
former TV exect. I said, does Mike Rabel turn down
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the Patriots as a way of showing respect to Bill Belichick?
Because what happened at the very end with the Craft
family in Belichick?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
He said, yes, I could see that happening now. Once again,
this is just somebody's opinion on this, because I don't
think anybody really knows what goes on with the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
They're pretty, you know, close to the best.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But if you're Mike Brabel and you have respect for Belichick,
would you want to go back to where Bill coached
and created this legacy? And he's going to have I
think multiple opportunities. I think Brabel will have a couple
of different places to choose from, which is interesting because
he was available last year and maybe he decided that
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he didn't want to coach, didn't want to be a
head coach, maybe wanted to kind of step back be,
you know, a consultant for the Cleveland Browns. But now
he's going to get that opportunity. But Brady's got to
get his quarterback. That's the crazy part of this that
the greatest quarterback now needs to find a quarterback and
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who's going to be good enough?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Now?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Is that where you go to Sam Darnold. That's a
possibility as well. So I think there's so much going on.
Then you got the Dallas Cowboy situation Mike McCarthy. Now
the Cowboys said no, you can't interview with the Chicago Bears.
It's kind of interesting that in a week's time, if
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he's not re signed, they can't do anything about it.
But then if he's not rescign and then they're not
bringing like, I don't know what the hold up there is.
But Jerry Jones after the game on Sunday was asked
about Mike McCarthy interviewing elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Then I would say, go talk. I really would go talk.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Sounds like I just.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Let Zeke do that got But I don't want anybody
here that's not healthy to have somebody around it wants
to be someplace else.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Really, it's not Okay, then why didn't you deny permission?
Mike doesn't want to interview with the Bears. He'd rather
stay with the Cowboys. But if you're not going to
resign him and let hingm go interview with the Bears,
mind boggling. Mind boggling. All right, Seaton, what's pole question
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for the first hour of the program.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, we got a few of them here for you.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Let's see PAULI sent one over the head coachless team
that feels furthest from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Furthest from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Head coachless the phrase this sounds weird. Look at this,
we're head coachless. How's the rest of the body? Okay, well,
let me think about that. Maybe we'll do that in
a few minutes. Okay, what else do you have?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Seed?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Uh, let's see we have better gig Fox Broadcaster or
Raiders front office.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, he is a part owner, so that's different than
and they kept Tom toe LESCo as their GM.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I just see Brady as a one and done.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
He does the Super Bowl and then he decides that
he's going to be more involved with the Raiders. I
just don't see Tom sort of in and like one
foot in, one foot out with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I just he's too much of a competitor.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And it's one thing you can compete in this business,
like I compete with myself every day. We compete, you know,
with ourselves each day. But this is different. These are
wins and losses with Tom and creating something, building something,
and I think that would probably intrigue him as opposed
to being a broadcaster. I mean, Tom can be at
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a certain level and he knows that there'll just be
people who don't like him just because he's Tom Brady
or he beat their team or whatever it might be.
You know, Tom is competing against Tom, and I think
that I don't know if he gets the same kind
of adrenaline rush now he will when you do a
playoff game, when you do the Super Bowl, Tom's going
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to be like, oh my god, that was awesome, but
it's still not that awesome of playing in it. Or
you're part of a team. Now it's a different team.
It's the Fox broadcast team. But he's used to winning
and losing, and when you get done with the show,
only you decide if you've won or lost. Hey, how
did I sound?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Was that good? This is different with the Raiders, yes see.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
But if his plan was to be part of the
Raiders organization, right, he's a minority owner, but he wants
to be involved in the day to day operations. Why
would you sign a ten year contract at Fox?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Well, he got that before he got the Raiders situation.
He didn't know that was going to be approved. Now,
once again, I don't have any information on that, but
I'm just thinking. I think Tom realized broadcasting is a
little bit tougher than he thought. The thing he thought,
you know what, this is fun. I'm around the game,
and I've been around a lot of former players and
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former coaches who realize that those who make it look easy,
that's how they stand out. Those are the stars. It's
not easy. But when you make like John Madden made
it seem like, oh man, you just kidding them in
them mom, But it was so much more than that,
Like you have to put in your time. Tom can't
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even go and be in these meetings now, Like he
can't even be there to talk to these people like
you know, the analysts normally do. So I think Tom
it was an offer he couldn't refuse. And then I
think he probably realizes that all right, I kind of
like it, you know, it's kind of fun, but nothing
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compares to competing, and he's one of the ultimate competitors.
And that's why I think. And look Andrew Marshawn of
you know, the media critic, he's the one who brought
it up and said, hey, he thinks Tom's going to
be one and done.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yeah, pulling if you had this could be a five
minute poll question. If you had a bet that Tom
Brady has one job a year.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
From now, which would it be the Raiders?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:42):
The competitive angle, yeah, yeah once once again.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You know, I was around Drew Brees and when you're
when you're in the studio, it's sterile. And that's what
it's really jolting for these former coaches and players.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Watching these games and.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Then you talk a little bit about them with highlights
and analysis. But if you go to games, broadcast games,
there's a whole different energy when you walk in. And
I thought, okay, maybe that can replicate something that Tom
had when he played. That feeling and I Man, I
like this. I think he realized it's a little bit
tougher the critics. You know, you can't just go out
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there and say I'm gonna throw a touchdown pass. It
doesn't work that way. Or man, wait till they get
this analysis. And Tom is working with somebody who is
trying to help him bring up things that nobody else
is bringing up, Like he wants to get that he's
a competitor there. And I was told that he works
with somebody at Fox and they're trying to give him
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these stats, you know, things that he can work on
bring up. And then it's like, all right, I see
what you're doing there, Tom, Yes, Ton.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Is he more concerned about his look or how he
sounds in the air, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I mean, I think his looks are all set, I think,
but though, yeah, well, I think he's pretty good for
a little clearly. I think in the next ten years
he'll look pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Still.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
His voice, his voice is something that you know it
he doesn't have that great voice, But I don't know
if that would factor in it all. I think this
is just Tom. Get a coach in there, maybe get
Mike Rabel in there, and then you find your quarterback,
and then this is a different way of kind of
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differentiating you from anybody else.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Elway tried to do it, it didn't work out. Now
others have tried to be part of a franchise, and
certainly great quarter Hall of Fame court of Dan Marino's
with the Dolphins. This is something where if you create
something like this, I think you just put that on
the resume. It's another thing to put on the resume
and say, yeah, I did that, did you yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Pulling as journalist Tom Brady just last night posted a
picture on vacation. He's at the beach with a football
in his hand. He goes, man, it's January. I got
to see how the arm is. See if I can
still do it like for fun. He's just goofing around.
But of course he's shirtless and he looks the lighting
is just perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, but he could still play, that's the thing. He
looks lean he will.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
He will be the best quarterback in the building with
the Raiders next year. Even if they bring in Sam Darnold,
Tom or bring in Rogers. He Tom would probably think.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You know, I could probably do this. It's just you know,
this is.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And I wouldn't rule it out after watching Lebron last night.
Now it's different. Lebron's, you know, freakish the dunk that
he had against the MAVs. But you know, in his mind,
Tom probably goes, I could still do it. Only forty
I'm only forty seven. I can see that, all right.
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Chase Daniel, co host of The Athletics scoof City podcast,
host of The Chase Daniel Show on YouTube, and co
host of The Facility on Fox Sports One. Chase joining
us from his car driving through Los Angeles. How would
you describe what it's like driving through Los Angeles right now?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You know, I'm on the ten right now, then getting
trying to get to work. You know, Fox is about
six miles from Pacific Palisdays. Also, there's a huge brush
fire going in Pasadena. But I'm going through downtown LA
right now, traffic, a ton of smoke, maybe some fog,
but it smells. I mean I started smelling smoke about
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ten miles south of downtown LA. So just trying to
get through this. You know, it's a lot worse than
probably what people think. Pacific Palisades one of the premier
neighborhoods in LA. I mean, it's just burned to the ground.
It's going up to Malibu right now. Just a really scary,
scary thought for a lot of these people. Thirty thousand
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people already evacuated and as zero percent contained. And the
crazy thing about it, Dan is there's ninety nine mile
per hour wind gusts. Yeah, and so that's the difficult
thing here for these firefighters trying to contain it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I was live texting with somebody who lives in the
Pacific Palisades over by Riviera and he was evacuating. You know,
he said, I you don't even know where to go,
He said, I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Direction the thing exactly, and there's some road closures around,
so we're having to do that. But my wife and
I literally were in Pacific Kyle States Village the whole
thing is burning and the houses. We were there this
weekend we did a staycation up from San Diego where
we lived and just saw it for the first time.
It was just amazed at how nice it was. I
think it was built in twenty eighteen and it's just
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completely devastated.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right now, I'll make the awkward segue so we do
talk some football here. More surprised that girod Mayo was
fired or Antonio Pierce.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
For me, I think it was Drove Mayo. I think
that was a surprise firing of the cycle. Look, I
don't agree with it either. You bring him in. What
did you think was going to happen when you when
you draft Drink may your your entire team, really your
offensive weapons, not where you want it to be. Look
what Belichick did in this last season, and you you know,
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you have this coach and waiting term for him that
he's had for a while, and you just give up
on him for one year. Doesn't make a lot of
suff And you don't even start Drake may at the
start of the season. I think things could have been different,
Like they're like, oh, he's not ready, he's not ready. Well,
he's played exceptionally well shown some growth. This firing to
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me is two things. One I guess that Robert Kraft
and the Patriots didn't like the progression and the developmental
plan for Drake May and two like it just screams
Mike Brable and so it looks like, you know, who
knows what direction they'll go. I just think he got
the raw end of the deal in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, but then Antonio Pierce gets fired, which I wasn't surprised.
I thought Tom Brady's fingerprints are going to be all
over this franchise, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I mean there's no doubt about it. That was the one.
You know, you go five and four as an interim
coach and I think they were four and thirteen or
something like that. It comes down for me with the
Raiders and Tom Telesca, which I like Tom. They didn't
get a quarterback this past year. They could have easily
had the mo to move up to get one of
the top six guys. I mean, look at what bo
Nicks has done, right, they end up with Brock Bauers.
I understand that, but I mean this definitely has Tom
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eighties singer prints. He's gonna have a say and the
next echo. So then you look at who who's out
there for him, it's like, oh, well, Rabel as well.
So it just seems like Brabel's name keeps coming up everywhere.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, give me the best opening right now.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You know. For me, I'm a huge Chicago Bears fan,
and I like what the Chicago Bears have done. I
like what they have on defense. I like what they
have on offense. They got to get Caleb playing well.
But one of the main openings that I think actually
would attract some people. And you're gonna think I'm crazy
for saying this as the Patriots job, because you do
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have your franchise quarterback. I would argue that Drake May
along with Jayden Daniels, are probably the top two quarterbacks
that have developed throughout the entire year. They have their
guy in Drake May. I fully believe that, and they
have a lot of cap space to spend in free agency,
so it depends on who they get, but I like
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both of those. I'd probably Patriots for me.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You have to have an offensive minded head coach. Like
what's more important to a quarterbacks development your offensive coordinator
or your head coach.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Oh, I think it's your head coach. There's no there's
no more important relationship in my opinion, based on the
teams I've been in the Hall of Fame coaches I've
been with, and that relationship between a head coach and
a quarterback, right. I just have said this always about
defensive head coaches, and I've been with few. I've been
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with two of them, Brandon Staley and the guy and
Detroit who got fired Matt Patricia. Everything is the quarterbacks
fault when it goes wrong, or everything is the offensive fault, right,
And I think that when you have an offensive minded guy,
he protects the quarterback a little bit. So when you
have these young quarterbacks and when stuff doesn't go right,
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I've just seen things go awry when a defensive head
coach takes over because it's never their fault.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
We're talking to Chase daniel co host of the Athletic
Scoop City pod cast, also the Chase Daniels Show on YouTube,
which is great. He breaks down more film probably than anybody,
and co host of the Facility on Fox Sports One.
Speaking of breaking down film, I'm curious what if the
Ravens go back and look at what Lamar did or
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didn't do these previous playoff appearances and you're going against
a familiar opponent here, what do you think the Ravens
will do differently or Lamar differently to get them past
that first round.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, that's a good question, man, and everyone knows. You know.
Lamar Jackson's career playoff record two and four, nine touchdowns,
nine turnovers in his career in the playoffs a one
to one ratio. He was at a five to one
ratio this year. Dan, For me, when you're playing a
team for the third time and I've done it a
few times in my career, stuff gets weird, it gets interesting.
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You know them, the Steelers know you. I would love
to see Lamar get out of the pocket early in
the game and make them to his legs. And I
know you're like Chase, you ran for almost eight hundred
nine hundred yards. I get that. But I think when
you get into a game where you know each other,
they're going to have a great plan defensively. The Steelers are.
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I think if Lamar uses his legs early, I think
it's going to get them off Kelter and then it'll
open up the past game. And then obviously you know
Derrick Henry over nineteen hundred yards rushing. I think that
is a big part of their deal, is like control
the football, play in smash mouth football, you know how
this is in the AFC North. I think this game
will actually be closer than people think. I know, the
Ravens are playing really well as a way, and the
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Steelers obviously four game losing streak, but I think this
will be close.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Chase.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
There's a lot on the line here, and some of
it is just the perception. Some of it could mean changes.
John Harball hasn't been successful in the postseason recently. Mike
Tomlin hasn't been successful recently. Lamar hasn't been successful recently.
Russell Wilson's trying to hold on. I mean, there's a
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whole lot of storylines in this game.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I mean, it really is, and I think the biggest
one and what we've been talking and that was the
biggest proponent when when Russell Wilson was six and one,
I said, hey, let's resign him right now, you know,
and then all of a sudden he's like, okay, you know,
zero to four, a couple of big red zone turnovers.
As of late, you can't point the finger right at him.
I think that's a big storyline. How does Russ play?
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If Russ doesn't play well, do they look behind door
number two? This year for the quarterback. We had a
conversation on the Fox Show of the facility. Hey is
Mike Tomlin on the hot seat and I was like no, no, no, no.
And the more you think about well, I mean, like,
you know, sometimes this might be good for a change.
I'm not saying that he's not one of the best
coaches out there, but it could be time for a change.
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And then everyone knows Lamar thing. I think that's easily
the number one storyline in this game is like, Lamar,
you've put up Really you could be an MVP again
this year. You could be a three time MVP, although
I think Josh Allen will win it. You could be
an if you go and you go two and five
in the playoffs, what is your legacy? Like, I think
that's a great game for storylines. You hit them all man, all.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Right, before I let you go, give me the surprise
this weekend. There's gonna be a road team that's well,
maybe even a home team like the Rams against the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But you got a surprise for me.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I look I would not want to go into Tampa
and play the Bucks offense and Liam Calm and what
they're doing, because they are playing really well. I think
a team that can do it though, is Jade and
Daniels and the Washington Commanders, even a rookie on the road.
We all know what Philly did last year. Layden egg
in Tampa. It's just a weird place to play in
the playoffs. But Baker's having the best year of his career.
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I wouldn't be surprised if dan Quinn has some good
defensive minded strategies to help slow down Baker, and then
I think Jayden really balls out with his legs. I
think zach Ertz sketches a touchdown. I think they might
win on the road.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
More importantly, safe travels this morning. Thanks for joining us.
We'll talk to you soon, Chase. Thanks for having me
on Dan, Chase, Daniel.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
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Speaker 3 (27:08):
Mike Florio is joining us on loan from Pro Football Talk.
Always great to talk to Mike, and you can see
him with Chris Simms Monday through Friday, preceding this show
on Peacock. Why did the Raiders wait a day to
fire Antonio Pierce?
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Well, you know, first of all, Dan, there's no happy
New Year if it's not too late to say happy
to New Year too much of all? Yes, okay, that's fine,
Happy New Year anyway. I mean, what's the alternative? Unhappy
New Year?
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Is that? What happens?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
How about just hi Mike? How are you hi?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Unless you are going to jump into the chase for
Mike Vrabel, which maybe the Raiders will. You can't have
face to face interviews with coordinators from other teams until
January twenty, so you don't have to make a snap
decision right away. But you'd like to think, as Jerry
Jones so eloquently said last week, going into the Week
eighteen game against the Commanders, the hey is in the
barn on what you're going to do about your coach.
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The Patriots knew why wait now, Look, there's an element
of awkwardness that creeps in when you're firing the guy
still in the locker room after the regular season finale.
But once you know what you're going to do, any
delay in implementing it runs the risk that someone else
is going to find out and it's going to get
out there, So you know, whether it's Mark Davis wanted
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to talk to Tom Brady who was working on Sunday
and not at the game and not available for Davis
to cauc us with.
Speaker 10 (28:32):
Whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
One day isn't a huge thing in the grand scheme
of things, because if you're looking for coordinators, you've got
a couple more weeks before you can even sit down
and talk to them.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I talked to somebody yesterday I trust in the business,
and we were talking about a variety of things, including
Brady's fingerprints all over the Raiders' situation here, and I said,
I thought Antonio Pierce was going to be fired, So
now you're the Mike Rabel situation, Rabel Brady relationship. And
so this person said to me, I could see a
scenario where Vrabel doesn't go to the Patriots because of
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his allegiance to Bill Belichick and what the Crafts did
to Belichick out the door. I don't know if he
would do that. You know, it seems like he's the
obvious guy there. But can Brady convince Brabel to go
to the Raiders.
Speaker 10 (29:20):
Well, that's where.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
It would become extremely interesting, interesting if Brady would use
the way the Patriots treated Belichick, even though it kind
of fell apart for Brady and Belichick near the end,
but that's a way to convince Rabel not to go
back there. Rabel's going to do his own thing. Rabel's
going to do what's right for him. And he's got
that red jacket with the crest on it that makes
him a member of the Patriots Hall of Fame. It's
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going to be tough to pull him away from New England.
But he's the one guy right now who is going
to have multiple opportunities interviewing with the Bears today. Saints
want to talk to him, Jets have talked to him,
Raiders presumably will want to It's everybody with the Jaguars
so far have been linked to him in one way,
shape or four.
Speaker 10 (30:00):
And at the end of the day, he'll know in
his heart whether he wants.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
To go to New England despite the things that happened
with Belichick, and I could see Rabel compartmentalizing it. I
could see Rabel smoothing things over with Bill. If Bill's
noses out to joint. How dare you take that job
and go to New England when I was there all
those years? And you know, Rabel's got He's got a
lot of parcels in him where he'll make his point
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in a very blunt way, but it's also kind of
a charming and funny way, and he's good with people
in that respect. And I think that he'll manage Belichick
and he'll go where he feels like he should go.
And it just seems like a no brainer for him
to go to New England. But how many times do
we see no brainers that just blow up and go
a different direction.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
How do you think Brady like after he does the
Super Bowl? Do you think Tom Brady's won and done
as a broadcaster.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I think that Tom Brady and I made this point
last week. Tom Brady either has no self awareness whatsoever
to realize the various landmindes and conflicts of interest, and
it's just a bad look him trying to do two
jobs that do not mesh. And Miles Simmons of PFT
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put it best when this was all first percolating. He
wants to be the best at everything he does. It's
impossible to be the best possible broadcaster you can be
and the best possible part owner of a team.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
You can be.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
And he's either completely oblivious to that or he is
hyper aware of the fact that he can do whatever
the hell he wants, and he's going to do whatever.
Speaker 10 (31:36):
He wants to do.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
But I think at some point he's going to realize
not being able to go to the games, not being
involved with the team in the regular season as involved
as he'd like to be, because he has another job
that keeps him occupied on Sundays in other cities covering
other games. I think at some point he's going to
realize on his own that I shouldn't do both. I
can't do both. I want the competitive juices. I want
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to be in the fray. I want to be with
the Raiders full time. And I think that there are
people in the league.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
Who are quietly hoping that's the way it goes.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Will the Lions lose both their coordinators it?
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Well, you know, Ben Johnson is only gonna leave if
he feels like it's the right opportunity. Alignment with the
front office is one of his top factors, and he's
learned from the mistakes of others where that window opens
to be a head coach, you jump through it, and
you land in a briar patch and two three years
later you're out of a job, and you'll wish you
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hadn't left. And I also think, and I heard this
this weekend, he'd much rather be the mad scientist who
is designing all these different crazy trick plays and exploiting
defensive weaknesses than the guy who's at the center of attention,
the guy who gets all the pressure, the guy whose
address gets posted online and people show up at his house.
And Dan Campbell goes through a lot. Now he makes
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a lot more money, but four or five million a
year for an offensive coordinator's not bad life. And you
get to do what you want to do, and you
don't have to do with all the hassles of being.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
A head coach.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
And he seems to be just sensitive to the fact
that life changes dramatically when you become a head coach.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
It's got to be the right spot.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
And I would not rule him out going back to
Detroit and just waiting and waiting and waiting for the
perfect opportunity.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host
also contributor to Football Night in America, we just played
our weekly game of in or out. I'm sure you've
heard of it. The first pick of the NFL Draft
will not be a quarterback. Are you in or out?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I'll say I'm out because if the Titans decide they
want a quarterback, they'll take one, and if they don't,
I think they should trade the pick to a team
that really falls in love with one of these quarterbacks. Now,
it's still early in the process, and whatever teams have
put together by way of preliminary draft boards that goes
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out the window once the coaches aren't coaching anymore and
they get involved in the scouting process and their opinions
begin to skew things. So there's a lot of work
still left to be done. But just from the standpoint
of teams that need quarterbacks, you got teams that have
franchise quarterbacks and teams that don't, and the teams that
don't are.
Speaker 10 (34:15):
Trying to get one.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
And the Raiders are a team that could maybe trade
up with the Titans. You know, there are teams out
there that I think if it's not the Titans taking
a quarterback, they'll trade the pick to a team that
wants one. Because the Titans could then parlay that into
a bunch of other picks that could address other needs.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
If Jared Goff wins Super Bowl MVP, He's going to
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Are you in or out?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
I'd have to take a close to look at his
entire career. It would be his second Super Bowl appearance.
You know, the Rams basically attaching a first round pick
to get him off their.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
Books is not a good look.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
I don't know that it's enough to get to the
Hall of Fame, but it puts him on track for
something that three years ago we never would have dreamed possible,
because I mean, this never gets described this way. But
the Rams gave up an extra first round pick, They
gave a one and a three for Stafford, and they
attached the first round pick to Golf to get his contract.
Speaker 10 (35:12):
Oh wait, that's how far he had fallen in the
eyes of Sean McVay.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
And it might have been the best thing that ever
happened to him because it sparked this resurgence where, yeah,
you know, I'd never thought of that, but I still
think he'd have more work to do.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Rank Final one.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Aaron Rodgers will not be a player or a broadcaster
slash analyst next season?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Are you in around?
Speaker 10 (35:35):
Well?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I think if he retires, he won't be a broadcaster.
He said he'll walk off into the sunset. But I
also can't imagine him fading away from relevance and keeping
his mouth shut. I am out on him not being
a player, though. I think he'll find a spot next year.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, I do you think he will?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Yeah, I've been watching Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh makes a
lot of sense. And Sims made a point today this
guy Chad Brinker that nobody heard of until yesterday, who
somehow arrived in Tennessee two years ago and is now
completely in charge of the operation. Nashville is a place
where Rogers has a house. The Titans need a quarterback.
Here's the key. Brinker was with the Packers from twenty
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ten through twenty twenty two in the front office. And
we know how Rogers feels about the Green Bay front office.
And he either loves Chad Brinker or he hates Chad Breaker.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
There is no in between with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
So you may scratch Tennessee off the list right now
if he doesn't like Chad Brinker. But I can see
Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin finding a way to join
forces for one season, and man, that would be exciting.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
The MVP conversation is always fascinating. And you have a
guy that if this was the Academy Awards, it's Josh
Allen's turn, they would probably say whereas Lamar Jackson probably
had his best performance. But you get voter fatigue, You
get voters who go, yeah, but he doesn't do well
in the like people.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Have their own criteria here.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
What do you think this comes down to as to
why this quarterback will win the MVP?
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Well, and I said this the other day, trust your
gut if you're a voter, because what we do as
humans we find objective statistics and facts to support whatever
it is our gut is telling us to do. Anyway,
watch Josh Allen, watch Lamar Jackson. Look at the season
Lamar Jackson had in comparison to the last year.
Speaker 10 (37:27):
When he was the MVP.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
And I know that other guys had less seasons than that,
and guys had better seasons than I get.
Speaker 10 (37:33):
All that, but you had to trust your gut. Who
is the MVP.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
And you know the problem with this award, Dan and
I say, this is one of the voters fully cognitive
in the fact that they may take the award away
or they vote away, and if they do, I don't care.
What the hell is an MVP, Like, what does it mean?
I heard Chris Fowler talking about it during the game
on Saturday.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Most valuable to your team? Well, is that what it is?
Speaker 6 (37:55):
I mean, it's an age old debate in sports, most
valuable to If it's the most valuable player to the league,
it's Patrick Mahomes every year until he retires, because there
is no one bringing value to the sport like him.
So it's just a crazy thing. And I just tell people,
whatever your gut feeling is, go with it, because if
you start coming up with objective justifications, all you doing
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is because we can find any stat to support whatever
it is we want to do.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Wow, but don't say that you don't want your vote.
They can take it away.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Oh well, let me tell you something. I've spent about
this week. And this is a busy week, and I
know we're covering sports. I've had real jobs. Real jobs suck.
I'm not complaining about my job, but to throw another
ten hours of work between the All Pro votes and
the awards ballots on top of everything else, for the
grand total salary of zero dollars in zero cents. You
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get to a point where you're like, you know what,
I wouldn't be so upset if they.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Took my vote away.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I'll take your vote, okay, but I don't know if
the commissioner will let me have it.
Speaker 10 (39:00):
Trust me, the commissioner has nothing to do with it.
I would not if the commissioner, how did you have
the vote? Yeah, I wouldn't have the vote.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
He would vote against you getting a vote.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
He would he would blackball me.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, all right, well you can ship me your your
m v P vote.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
All right, thank you, Mike, thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
D's talking.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's Mike Glorial. Happy new year of mine.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The video is apocalyptic.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Some of the news broadcast I'm watching with what's happened
in California, Los Angeles, Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It's one thing when you get out of your house
and you're safe and you've evacuated, but you still lost
your house. And that video it is it is really
really tough. It's it's devastating in more ways than one.
So the firefighters, thank God for them. And I always
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think about this, you know, whenever you're in a hometown,
you're small town and you see the firefighters out there
and they'll have that day where they have their boots
and they're collecting money. Think about that next time. Just
think about that next time with those great people. But uh,
you know, well, this feels like it's a yearly thing
that goes on an annual thing. Unfortunately with California and
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these winds are whipping, I mean eighty ninety miles per hour,
you're not sure where to go even when you evacuate.
Talking to a friend last night at two in the
morning my time, and he said, I don't know where
to go in the which direction said, it's scary, so
the proverbial thoughts and prayers, but certainly more than that,
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whatever that is, certainly more than that. But really really
that you watch and you're like, that is real, and
that's happening right now. It's almost like from a movie set.
But it's not all right.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Our job is to be a diversion.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Our job is to entertain, make you laugh, make you think,
make you smile, and we'll try to do that today.
We got the Minister of Humor here, Fritzy in the
back row. You got seat, and you got Marv, you
got Paula yours truly and of course the back room guys.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Good morning.
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Chase Daniel, the former quarterback. He'll join us from now.
He's driving up from San Diego to Los Angeles and
he works for Fox Sports one. So hopefully Chase will
(02:45):
be okay commuting from San Diego up there with the fires.
Mike Florio on the comings and goings here of you know,
Antonio Pierce gets fired. I was not surprised that he
got fired. This has Tom Brady's fingerprints all over it.
In my opinion, as a minority owner, if I'm Mark Davis,
it'd be crazy not to use Tom as the sounding
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board to say what do you think we should do,
how do you think that we should approach this, and
what coach do you have in mind?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So Florio will join us a little bit later on
as well.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Got a poll question, Play of the Day, stat of
the Day eight seven to seven three DP show operator
Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Got a
big basketball game tonight. It'll be the Thunder against the Cavaliers.
Thunder the best in the West, the Calves the best
in the East. That's National TV. And then you'll have
Spurs in the Bucks so you got Wemby against the
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Greek freak. So maybe basketball will take the spotlight and
showcase some great talent, some great teams there coming up
later on tonight. Back to Antonio Pierce being fired, I
didn't think he was going to keep his job because
of Tom Brady coming in. Now, if they had the
number one pick, then I thought, sure, he's not gonna
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keep his job. It's you want to come in, Okay,
let's start. Let's start with a coach and maybe we
get a quarterback here. I thought they were gonna go
all in on Michael Pennox last year. Now they could
have gotten bow Nicks, but they got Rock Bowers, who
is gonna finish runner up and Rookie of the Year.
He was great, But you gotta find your quarterback. Now,
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imagine if you had your quarterback. I mean that's another thing.
When you look at Rock Bowers and Malik Neighbors. They
put up these unbelievable seasons with bad quarterback play, which
makes it like if you're grading it on a curve,
Damn that's impressive. So here are the Raiders with the
sixth pick. Now, it's not a heavy quarterback draft. You're
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gonna have cam Ward, who right now is the favor
to be the number one pick. If the Titans hold
on to it, then Shadoor Sanders. Then you're gonna have
Jalen Milroe at some point. But if you're the Raiders,
are you going to get maybe somebody in free agency?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Now?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I was talking to somebody, a former TV executive who
is well connected with the owners around the league, and
I'm talking to him about a couple of things, and
I said, would the Raiders kick the tires on Aaron Rodgers?
He said, well yes, and he goes, I would too,
because Aaron respect for Tom Brady. Raiders, you're playing inside.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Half of your.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Games are going to be now granted you're in the
AFC West, but if you want to do that bridge
quarterback there And I said, okay, Like, I just I
can't get into the Aaron Rodgers business now.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I just can't.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And I know those are respectable numbers that he put up,
but there's just so much more that's going to go
with this.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, are you like, what do you have and you
bring him in? What do you like? What are your expectations? Hey,
let's win five games.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Hey, it doesn't matter what our record's going to be
peop who are still going to show up.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We're a tourist destination.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't know what the mindset would be for the
Raiders that how quickly do they want to win? But
if Tom Brady's involved in this, Tom Brady, he's not
used to losing, and that's what I think. How do
you expedite this? Does he bring in Mike Rabel? Does
Mike Rabel? And this is another thing I asked the
former TV exect. I said, does Mike Rabel turn down
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the Patriots as a way of showing respect to Bill Belichick?
Because what happened at the very end with the Craft
family in Belichick?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
He said, yes, I could see that happening now. Once again,
this is just somebody's opinion on this, because I don't
think anybody really knows what goes on with the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
They're pretty, you know, close to the best.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But if you're Mike Brabel and you have respect for Belichick,
would you want to go back to where Bill coached
and created this legacy? And he's going to have I
think multiple opportunities. I think Brabel will have a couple
of different places to choose from, which is interesting because
he was available last year and maybe he decided that
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he didn't want to coach, didn't want to be a
head coach, maybe wanted to kind of step back be,
you know, a consultant for the Cleveland Browns. But now
he's going to get that opportunity. But Brady's got to
get his quarterback. That's the crazy part of this that
the greatest quarterback now needs to find a quarterback and
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who's going to be good enough?
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Now?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Is that where you go to Sam Darnold. That's a
possibility as well. So I think there's so much going on.
Then you got the Dallas Cowboy situation Mike McCarthy. Now
the Cowboys said no, you can't interview with the Chicago Bears.
It's kind of interesting that in a week's time, if
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he's not re signed, they can't do anything about it.
But then if he's not rescign and then they're not
bringing like, I don't know what the hold up there is.
But Jerry Jones after the game on Sunday was asked
about Mike McCarthy interviewing elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Then I would say, go talk. I really would go talk.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Sounds like I just.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Let Zeke do that got But I don't want anybody
here that's not healthy to have somebody around it wants
to be someplace else.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Really, it's not Okay, then why didn't you deny permission?
Mike doesn't want to interview with the Bears. He'd rather
stay with the Cowboys. But if you're not going to
resign him and let hingm go interview with the Bears,
mind boggling. Mind boggling. All right, Seaton, what's pole question
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for the first hour of the program.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Well, we got a few of them here for you.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Let's see PAULI sent one over the head coachless team
that feels furthest from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Furthest from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Head coachless the phrase this sounds weird. Look at this,
we're head coachless. How's the rest of the body? Okay, well,
let me think about that. Maybe we'll do that in
a few minutes. Okay, what else do you have?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Seed?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Uh, let's see we have better gig Fox Broadcaster or
Raiders front office.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, he is a part owner, so that's different than
and they kept Tom toe LESCo as their GM.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I just see Brady as a one and done.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
He does the Super Bowl and then he decides that
he's going to be more involved with the Raiders. I
just don't see Tom sort of in and like one
foot in, one foot out with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I just he's too much of a competitor.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And it's one thing you can compete in this business,
like I compete with myself every day. We compete, you know,
with ourselves each day. But this is different. These are
wins and losses with Tom and creating something, building something,
and I think that would probably intrigue him as opposed
to being a broadcaster. I mean, Tom can be at
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a certain level and he knows that there'll just be
people who don't like him just because he's Tom Brady
or he beat their team or whatever it might be.
You know, Tom is competing against Tom, and I think
that I don't know if he gets the same kind
of adrenaline rush now he will when you do a
playoff game, when you do the Super Bowl, Tom's going
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to be like, oh my god, that was awesome, but
it's still not that awesome of playing in it. Or
you're part of a team. Now it's a different team.
It's the Fox broadcast team. But he's used to winning
and losing, and when you get done with the show,
only you decide if you've won or lost. Hey, how
did I sound?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Was that good? This is different with the Raiders, yes see.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
But if his plan was to be part of the
Raiders organization, right, he's a minority owner, but he wants
to be involved in the day to day operations. Why
would you sign a ten year contract at Fox?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Well, he got that before he got the Raiders situation.
He didn't know that was going to be approved. Now,
once again, I don't have any information on that, but
I'm just thinking. I think Tom realized broadcasting is a
little bit tougher than he thought. The thing he thought,
you know what, this is fun. I'm around the game,
and I've been around a lot of former players and
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former coaches who realize that those who make it look easy,
that's how they stand out. Those are the stars. It's
not easy. But when you make like John Madden made
it seem like, oh man, you just kidding them in
them mom, But it was so much more than that,
Like you have to put in your time. Tom can't
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even go and be in these meetings now, Like he
can't even be there to talk to these people like
you know, the analysts normally do. So I think Tom
it was an offer he couldn't refuse. And then I
think he probably realizes that all right, I kind of
like it, you know, it's kind of fun, but nothing
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compares to competing, and he's one of the ultimate competitors.
And that's why I think. And look Andrew Marshawn of
you know, the media critic, he's the one who brought
it up and said, hey, he thinks Tom's going to
be one and done.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yeah, pulling if you had this could be a five
minute poll question. If you had a bet that Tom
Brady has one job a year.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
From now, which would it be the Raiders?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:42):
The competitive angle, yeah, yeah once once again.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You know, I was around Drew Brees and when you're
when you're in the studio, it's sterile. And that's what
it's really jolting for these former coaches and players.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Watching these games and.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Then you talk a little bit about them with highlights
and analysis. But if you go to games, broadcast games,
there's a whole different energy when you walk in. And
I thought, okay, maybe that can replicate something that Tom
had when he played. That feeling and I Man, I
like this. I think he realized it's a little bit
tougher the critics. You know, you can't just go out
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there and say I'm gonna throw a touchdown pass. It
doesn't work that way. Or man, wait till they get
this analysis. And Tom is working with somebody who is
trying to help him bring up things that nobody else
is bringing up, Like he wants to get that he's
a competitor there. And I was told that he works
with somebody at Fox and they're trying to give him
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these stats, you know, things that he can work on
bring up. And then it's like, all right, I see
what you're doing there, Tom, Yes, Ton.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Is he more concerned about his look or how he
sounds in the air, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I mean, I think his looks are all set, I think,
but though, yeah, well, I think he's pretty good for
a little clearly. I think in the next ten years
he'll look pretty good.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Still.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
His voice, his voice is something that you know it
he doesn't have that great voice, But I don't know
if that would factor in it all. I think this
is just Tom. Get a coach in there, maybe get
Mike Rabel in there, and then you find your quarterback,
and then this is a different way of kind of
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differentiating you from anybody else.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Elway tried to do it, it didn't work out. Now
others have tried to be part of a franchise, and
certainly great quarter Hall of Fame court of Dan Marino's
with the Dolphins. This is something where if you create
something like this, I think you just put that on
the resume. It's another thing to put on the resume
and say, yeah, I did that, did you yeah?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Pulling as journalist Tom Brady just last night posted a
picture on vacation. He's at the beach with a football
in his hand. He goes, man, it's January. I got
to see how the arm is. See if I can
still do it like for fun. He's just goofing around.
But of course he's shirtless and he looks the lighting
is just perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, but he could still play, that's the thing. He
looks lean he will.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
He will be the best quarterback in the building with
the Raiders next year. Even if they bring in Sam Darnold,
Tom or bring in Rogers. He Tom would probably think.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You know, I could probably do this. It's just you know,
this is.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And I wouldn't rule it out after watching Lebron last night.
Now it's different. Lebron's, you know, freakish the dunk that
he had against the MAVs. But you know, in his mind,
Tom probably goes, I could still do it. Only forty
I'm only forty seven. I can see that, all right.
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Chase Daniel, co host of The Athletics scoof City podcast,
host of The Chase Daniel Show on YouTube, and co
host of The Facility on Fox Sports One. Chase joining
us from his car driving through Los Angeles. How would
you describe what it's like driving through Los Angeles right now?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You know, I'm on the ten right now, then getting
trying to get to work. You know, Fox is about
six miles from Pacific Palisdays. Also, there's a huge brush
fire going in Pasadena. But I'm going through downtown LA
right now, traffic, a ton of smoke, maybe some fog,
but it smells. I mean I started smelling smoke about
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ten miles south of downtown LA. So just trying to
get through this. You know, it's a lot worse than
probably what people think. Pacific Palisades one of the premier
neighborhoods in LA. I mean, it's just burned to the ground.
It's going up to Malibu right now. Just a really scary,
scary thought for a lot of these people. Thirty thousand
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people already evacuated and as zero percent contained. And the
crazy thing about it, Dan is there's ninety nine mile
per hour wind gusts. Yeah, and so that's the difficult
thing here for these firefighters trying to contain it.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I was live texting with somebody who lives in the
Pacific Palisades over by Riviera and he was evacuating. You know,
he said, I you don't even know where to go,
He said, I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Direction the thing exactly, and there's some road closures around,
so we're having to do that. But my wife and
I literally were in Pacific Kyle States Village the whole
thing is burning and the houses. We were there this
weekend we did a staycation up from San Diego where
we lived and just saw it for the first time.
It was just amazed at how nice it was. I
think it was built in twenty eighteen and it's just
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completely devastated.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right now, I'll make the awkward segue so we do
talk some football here. More surprised that girod Mayo was
fired or Antonio Pierce.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
For me, I think it was Drove Mayo. I think
that was a surprise firing of the cycle. Look, I
don't agree with it either. You bring him in. What
did you think was going to happen when you when
you draft Drink may your your entire team, really your
offensive weapons, not where you want it to be. Look
what Belichick did in this last season, and you you know,
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you have this coach and waiting term for him that
he's had for a while, and you just give up
on him for one year. Doesn't make a lot of
suff And you don't even start Drake may at the
start of the season. I think things could have been different,
Like they're like, oh, he's not ready, he's not ready. Well,
he's played exceptionally well shown some growth. This firing to
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me is two things. One I guess that Robert Kraft
and the Patriots didn't like the progression and the developmental
plan for Drake May and two like it just screams
Mike Brable and so it looks like, you know, who
knows what direction they'll go. I just think he got
the raw end of the deal in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, but then Antonio Pierce gets fired, which I wasn't surprised.
I thought Tom Brady's fingerprints are going to be all
over this franchise, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I mean there's no doubt about it. That was the one.
You know, you go five and four as an interim
coach and I think they were four and thirteen or
something like that. It comes down for me with the
Raiders and Tom Telesca, which I like Tom. They didn't
get a quarterback this past year. They could have easily
had the mo to move up to get one of
the top six guys. I mean, look at what bo
Nicks has done, right, they end up with Brock Bauers.
I understand that, but I mean this definitely has Tom
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eighties singer prints. He's gonna have a say and the
next echo. So then you look at who who's out
there for him, it's like, oh, well, Rabel as well.
So it just seems like Brabel's name keeps coming up everywhere.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, give me the best opening right now.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You know. For me, I'm a huge Chicago Bears fan,
and I like what the Chicago Bears have done. I
like what they have on defense. I like what they
have on offense. They got to get Caleb playing well.
But one of the main openings that I think actually
would attract some people. And you're gonna think I'm crazy
for saying this as the Patriots job, because you do
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have your franchise quarterback. I would argue that Drake May
along with Jayden Daniels, are probably the top two quarterbacks
that have developed throughout the entire year. They have their
guy in Drake May. I fully believe that, and they
have a lot of cap space to spend in free agency,
so it depends on who they get, but I like
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both of those. I'd probably Patriots for me.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You have to have an offensive minded head coach. Like
what's more important to a quarterbacks development your offensive coordinator
or your head coach.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Oh, I think it's your head coach. There's no there's
no more important relationship in my opinion, based on the
teams I've been in the Hall of Fame coaches I've
been with, and that relationship between a head coach and
a quarterback, right. I just have said this always about
defensive head coaches, and I've been with few. I've been
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with two of them, Brandon Staley and the guy and
Detroit who got fired Matt Patricia. Everything is the quarterbacks
fault when it goes wrong, or everything is the offensive fault, right,
And I think that when you have an offensive minded guy,
he protects the quarterback a little bit. So when you
have these young quarterbacks and when stuff doesn't go right,
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I've just seen things go awry when a defensive head
coach takes over because it's never their fault.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
We're talking to Chase daniel co host of the Athletic
Scoop City pod cast, also the Chase Daniels Show on YouTube,
which is great. He breaks down more film probably than anybody,
and co host of the Facility on Fox Sports One.
Speaking of breaking down film, I'm curious what if the
Ravens go back and look at what Lamar did or
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didn't do these previous playoff appearances and you're going against
a familiar opponent here, what do you think the Ravens
will do differently or Lamar differently to get them past
that first round.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, that's a good question, man, and everyone knows. You know.
Lamar Jackson's career playoff record two and four, nine touchdowns,
nine turnovers in his career in the playoffs a one
to one ratio. He was at a five to one
ratio this year. Dan, For me, when you're playing a
team for the third time and I've done it a
few times in my career, stuff gets weird, it gets interesting.
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You know them, the Steelers know you. I would love
to see Lamar get out of the pocket early in
the game and make them to his legs. And I
know you're like Chase, you ran for almost eight hundred
nine hundred yards. I get that. But I think when
you get into a game where you know each other,
they're going to have a great plan defensively. The Steelers are.
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I think if Lamar uses his legs early, I think
it's going to get them off Kelter and then it'll
open up the past game. And then obviously you know
Derrick Henry over nineteen hundred yards rushing. I think that
is a big part of their deal, is like control
the football, play in smash mouth football, you know how
this is in the AFC North. I think this game
will actually be closer than people think. I know, the
Ravens are playing really well as a way, and the
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Steelers obviously four game losing streak, but I think this
will be close.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Chase.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
There's a lot on the line here, and some of
it is just the perception. Some of it could mean changes.
John Harball hasn't been successful in the postseason recently. Mike
Tomlin hasn't been successful recently. Lamar hasn't been successful recently.
Russell Wilson's trying to hold on. I mean, there's a
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whole lot of storylines in this game.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I mean, it really is, and I think the biggest
one and what we've been talking and that was the
biggest proponent when when Russell Wilson was six and one,
I said, hey, let's resign him right now, you know,
and then all of a sudden he's like, okay, you know,
zero to four, a couple of big red zone turnovers.
As of late, you can't point the finger right at him.
I think that's a big storyline. How does Russ play?
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If Russ doesn't play well, do they look behind door
number two? This year for the quarterback. We had a
conversation on the Fox Show of the facility. Hey is
Mike Tomlin on the hot seat and I was like no, no, no, no.
And the more you think about well, I mean, like,
you know, sometimes this might be good for a change.
I'm not saying that he's not one of the best
coaches out there, but it could be time for a change.
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And then everyone knows Lamar thing. I think that's easily
the number one storyline in this game is like, Lamar,
you've put up Really you could be an MVP again
this year. You could be a three time MVP, although
I think Josh Allen will win it. You could be
an if you go and you go two and five
in the playoffs, what is your legacy? Like, I think
that's a great game for storylines. You hit them all man, all.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Right, before I let you go, give me the surprise
this weekend. There's gonna be a road team that's well,
maybe even a home team like the Rams against the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But you got a surprise for me.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I look I would not want to go into Tampa
and play the Bucks offense and Liam Calm and what
they're doing, because they are playing really well. I think
a team that can do it though, is Jade and
Daniels and the Washington Commanders, even a rookie on the road.
We all know what Philly did last year. Layden egg
in Tampa. It's just a weird place to play in
the playoffs. But Baker's having the best year of his career.
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I wouldn't be surprised if dan Quinn has some good
defensive minded strategies to help slow down Baker, and then
I think Jayden really balls out with his legs. I
think zach Ertz sketches a touchdown. I think they might
win on the road.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
More importantly, safe travels this morning. Thanks for joining us.
We'll talk to you soon, Chase. Thanks for having me
on Dan, Chase, Daniel.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Be sure to catch live edition of The Dan Patrick
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Speaker 3 (27:08):
Mike Florio is joining us on loan from Pro Football Talk.
Always great to talk to Mike, and you can see
him with Chris Simms Monday through Friday, preceding this show
on Peacock. Why did the Raiders wait a day to
fire Antonio Pierce?
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Well, you know, first of all, Dan, there's no happy
New Year if it's not too late to say happy
to New Year too much of all? Yes, okay, that's fine,
Happy New Year anyway. I mean, what's the alternative? Unhappy
New Year?
Speaker 10 (27:34):
Is that? What happens?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
How about just hi Mike? How are you hi?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Unless you are going to jump into the chase for
Mike Vrabel, which maybe the Raiders will. You can't have
face to face interviews with coordinators from other teams until
January twenty, so you don't have to make a snap
decision right away. But you'd like to think, as Jerry
Jones so eloquently said last week, going into the Week
eighteen game against the Commanders, the hey is in the
barn on what you're going to do about your coach.
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The Patriots knew why wait now, Look, there's an element
of awkwardness that creeps in when you're firing the guy
still in the locker room after the regular season finale.
But once you know what you're going to do, any
delay in implementing it runs the risk that someone else
is going to find out and it's going to get
out there, So you know, whether it's Mark Davis wanted
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to talk to Tom Brady who was working on Sunday
and not at the game and not available for Davis
to cauc us with.
Speaker 10 (28:32):
Whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
One day isn't a huge thing in the grand scheme
of things, because if you're looking for coordinators, you've got
a couple more weeks before you can even sit down
and talk to them.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I talked to somebody yesterday I trust in the business,
and we were talking about a variety of things, including
Brady's fingerprints all over the Raiders' situation here, and I said,
I thought Antonio Pierce was going to be fired, So
now you're the Mike Rabel situation, Rabel Brady relationship. And
so this person said to me, I could see a
scenario where Vrabel doesn't go to the Patriots because of
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his allegiance to Bill Belichick and what the Crafts did
to Belichick out the door. I don't know if he
would do that. You know, it seems like he's the
obvious guy there. But can Brady convince Brabel to go
to the Raiders.
Speaker 10 (29:20):
Well, that's where.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
It would become extremely interesting, interesting if Brady would use
the way the Patriots treated Belichick, even though it kind
of fell apart for Brady and Belichick near the end,
but that's a way to convince Rabel not to go
back there. Rabel's going to do his own thing. Rabel's
going to do what's right for him. And he's got
that red jacket with the crest on it that makes
him a member of the Patriots Hall of Fame. It's
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going to be tough to pull him away from New England.
But he's the one guy right now who is going
to have multiple opportunities interviewing with the Bears today. Saints
want to talk to him, Jets have talked to him,
Raiders presumably will want to It's everybody with the Jaguars
so far have been linked to him in one way,
shape or four.
Speaker 10 (30:00):
And at the end of the day, he'll know in
his heart whether he wants.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
To go to New England despite the things that happened
with Belichick, and I could see Rabel compartmentalizing it. I
could see Rabel smoothing things over with Bill. If Bill's
noses out to joint. How dare you take that job
and go to New England when I was there all
those years? And you know, Rabel's got He's got a
lot of parcels in him where he'll make his point
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in a very blunt way, but it's also kind of
a charming and funny way, and he's good with people
in that respect. And I think that he'll manage Belichick
and he'll go where he feels like he should go.
And it just seems like a no brainer for him
to go to New England. But how many times do
we see no brainers that just blow up and go
a different direction.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
How do you think Brady like after he does the
Super Bowl? Do you think Tom Brady's won and done
as a broadcaster.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I think that Tom Brady and I made this point
last week. Tom Brady either has no self awareness whatsoever
to realize the various landmindes and conflicts of interest, and
it's just a bad look him trying to do two
jobs that do not mesh. And Miles Simmons of PFT
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put it best when this was all first percolating. He
wants to be the best at everything he does. It's
impossible to be the best possible broadcaster you can be
and the best possible part owner of a team.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
You can be.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
And he's either completely oblivious to that or he is
hyper aware of the fact that he can do whatever
the hell he wants, and he's going to do whatever.
Speaker 10 (31:36):
He wants to do.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
But I think at some point he's going to realize
not being able to go to the games, not being
involved with the team in the regular season as involved
as he'd like to be, because he has another job
that keeps him occupied on Sundays in other cities covering
other games. I think at some point he's going to
realize on his own that I shouldn't do both. I
can't do both. I want the competitive juices. I want
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to be in the fray. I want to be with
the Raiders full time. And I think that there are
people in the league.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
Who are quietly hoping that's the way it goes.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Will the Lions lose both their coordinators it?
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Well, you know, Ben Johnson is only gonna leave if
he feels like it's the right opportunity. Alignment with the
front office is one of his top factors, and he's
learned from the mistakes of others where that window opens
to be a head coach, you jump through it, and
you land in a briar patch and two three years
later you're out of a job, and you'll wish you
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hadn't left. And I also think, and I heard this
this weekend, he'd much rather be the mad scientist who
is designing all these different crazy trick plays and exploiting
defensive weaknesses than the guy who's at the center of attention,
the guy who gets all the pressure, the guy whose
address gets posted online and people show up at his house.
And Dan Campbell goes through a lot. Now he makes
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a lot more money, but four or five million a
year for an offensive coordinator's not bad life. And you
get to do what you want to do, and you
don't have to do with all the hassles of being.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
A head coach.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
And he seems to be just sensitive to the fact
that life changes dramatically when you become a head coach.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
It's got to be the right spot.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
And I would not rule him out going back to
Detroit and just waiting and waiting and waiting for the
perfect opportunity.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host
also contributor to Football Night in America, we just played
our weekly game of in or out. I'm sure you've
heard of it. The first pick of the NFL Draft
will not be a quarterback. Are you in or out?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I'll say I'm out because if the Titans decide they
want a quarterback, they'll take one, and if they don't,
I think they should trade the pick to a team
that really falls in love with one of these quarterbacks. Now,
it's still early in the process, and whatever teams have
put together by way of preliminary draft boards that goes
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out the window once the coaches aren't coaching anymore and
they get involved in the scouting process and their opinions
begin to skew things. So there's a lot of work
still left to be done. But just from the standpoint
of teams that need quarterbacks, you got teams that have
franchise quarterbacks and teams that don't, and the teams that
don't are.
Speaker 10 (34:15):
Trying to get one.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
And the Raiders are a team that could maybe trade
up with the Titans. You know, there are teams out
there that I think if it's not the Titans taking
a quarterback, they'll trade the pick to a team that
wants one. Because the Titans could then parlay that into
a bunch of other picks that could address other needs.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
If Jared Goff wins Super Bowl MVP, He's going to
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Are you in or out?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
I'd have to take a close to look at his
entire career. It would be his second Super Bowl appearance.
You know, the Rams basically attaching a first round pick
to get him off their.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
Books is not a good look.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
I don't know that it's enough to get to the
Hall of Fame, but it puts him on track for
something that three years ago we never would have dreamed possible,
because I mean, this never gets described this way. But
the Rams gave up an extra first round pick, They
gave a one and a three for Stafford, and they
attached the first round pick to Golf to get his contract.
Speaker 10 (35:12):
Oh wait, that's how far he had fallen in the
eyes of Sean McVay.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
And it might have been the best thing that ever
happened to him because it sparked this resurgence where, yeah,
you know, I'd never thought of that, but I still
think he'd have more work to do.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Rank Final one.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Aaron Rodgers will not be a player or a broadcaster
slash analyst next season?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Are you in around?
Speaker 10 (35:35):
Well?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I think if he retires, he won't be a broadcaster.
He said he'll walk off into the sunset. But I
also can't imagine him fading away from relevance and keeping
his mouth shut. I am out on him not being
a player, though. I think he'll find a spot next year.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, I do you think he will?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Yeah, I've been watching Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh makes a
lot of sense. And Sims made a point today this
guy Chad Brinker that nobody heard of until yesterday, who
somehow arrived in Tennessee two years ago and is now
completely in charge of the operation. Nashville is a place
where Rogers has a house. The Titans need a quarterback.
Here's the key. Brinker was with the Packers from twenty
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ten through twenty twenty two in the front office. And
we know how Rogers feels about the Green Bay front office.
And he either loves Chad Brinker or he hates Chad Breaker.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
There is no in between with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
So you may scratch Tennessee off the list right now
if he doesn't like Chad Brinker. But I can see
Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin finding a way to join
forces for one season, and man, that would be exciting.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
The MVP conversation is always fascinating. And you have a
guy that if this was the Academy Awards, it's Josh
Allen's turn, they would probably say whereas Lamar Jackson probably
had his best performance. But you get voter fatigue, You
get voters who go, yeah, but he doesn't do well
in the like people.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Have their own criteria here.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
What do you think this comes down to as to
why this quarterback will win the MVP?
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Well, and I said this the other day, trust your
gut if you're a voter, because what we do as
humans we find objective statistics and facts to support whatever
it is our gut is telling us to do. Anyway,
watch Josh Allen, watch Lamar Jackson. Look at the season
Lamar Jackson had in comparison to the last year.
Speaker 10 (37:27):
When he was the MVP.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
And I know that other guys had less seasons than that,
and guys had better seasons than I get.
Speaker 10 (37:33):
All that, but you had to trust your gut. Who
is the MVP.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
And you know the problem with this award, Dan and
I say, this is one of the voters fully cognitive
in the fact that they may take the award away
or they vote away, and if they do, I don't care.
What the hell is an MVP, Like, what does it mean?
I heard Chris Fowler talking about it during the game
on Saturday.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Most valuable to your team? Well, is that what it is?
Speaker 6 (37:55):
I mean, it's an age old debate in sports, most
valuable to If it's the most valuable player to the league,
it's Patrick Mahomes every year until he retires, because there
is no one bringing value to the sport like him.
So it's just a crazy thing. And I just tell people,
whatever your gut feeling is, go with it, because if
you start coming up with objective justifications, all you doing
(38:15):
is because we can find any stat to support whatever
it is we want to do.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Wow, but don't say that you don't want your vote.
They can take it away.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Oh well, let me tell you something. I've spent about
this week. And this is a busy week, and I
know we're covering sports. I've had real jobs. Real jobs suck.
I'm not complaining about my job, but to throw another
ten hours of work between the All Pro votes and
the awards ballots on top of everything else, for the
grand total salary of zero dollars in zero cents. You
(38:48):
get to a point where you're like, you know what,
I wouldn't be so upset if they.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Took my vote away.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I'll take your vote, okay, but I don't know if
the commissioner will let me have it.
Speaker 10 (39:00):
Trust me, the commissioner has nothing to do with it.
I would not if the commissioner, how did you have
the vote? Yeah, I wouldn't have the vote.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
He would vote against you getting a vote.
Speaker 10 (39:09):
He would he would blackball me.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, all right, well you can ship me your your
m v P vote.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
All right, thank you, Mike, thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
D's talking.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's Mike Glorial. Happy new year of mine.
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